Justice For General Flynn

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Everybody there. You have the President talking about what was
and what he says will be again. We will get
to that place where we have a rock and economy.
Things going very well for business, for individuals. Some optimism,

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we need optimism. These days. It's grinding us down, isn't it.
It's getting a little tough out there on these lockdowns.
It's a question that we're going to keep revisiting. When
are we going to reopen? How fast can we reopen?
And was all of this really worth? It? Was all
of this something that we should have put ourselves through,

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And if so, I want to see the data, because
so far over the data that I'm seeing suggest that
it was not. Now, look, there's some tough new information.
There's some tough new data, specifically about jobs. You've got
an additional three point eight million more people sought jobless benefits,
and I'll talk to you a bit about that. We've

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also got some bombshell stuff last night that I wanted
to begin with today, where General Flynn, I mean, the
move against General Flynn is beyond any reasonable doubt, something
that you could refer to now as a deep state
ambush of the Trump administration National Security advisor that used

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the worst kinds of behind the scenes FBI abuse of
the system of their discretion, that relied on dishonorable, disreputable
tactics from people that are partisans. And now this new
information is just confirming what many of us have thought
all along, and I think that's really important for us here.

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I think we need to take stock on this issue
of General Flynn of who was right, who was wrong,
and why did they get it so wrong. Those who
have been skeptical of the case against General Flynn from
day one and been calling it an evil politically motivated
injustice were right. Meanwhile, the multi billion dollar media apparatus

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that defamed and tried to ruin Flynn out of partisan spite,
we're wrong. Never forget that, Never forget that. Those of
you who have been listening to me talk about General
Flynn for the last three years, about his case, about
what was done to him, I've been right at every stage. CNN,

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The New York Times, MSNBC, the New York Post, and
all the assorted liberal outlets out there. They were wrong.
They've been lying to their audiences, They've been misrepresenting what happened.
They've been putting stupid analysts on TV and running their columns,
running their analysis in various platforms. That now is just

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completely indefensible. I mean, it was always wrong, but at
this point they should be offering up apologies and that
will not that will not happen. The unbelievable corruption and
underhanded partisan tactics that the FBI and DJ engaged in
against Flynn and Trump's campaign, it should be noted happened

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on Obama's watch and our ultimately Obama's responsibility. Libs can
try to obfuscate this all day, but it's a fact
it was Obama's team on his watch taking this action
against the presidential transition. What a bunch of petty, spiteful,

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insidious garbage. This was your team loses, and so you
make sure that the team that gets to take the
field is not able to have the full benefit of
their victory. You do this on the way out the door. Disgusting,
Absolutely disgusting, And there's no way at this point, there's

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no way for anyone to explain this as an act
of a mistake or as as good faith gone awry. No,
we see, and I will, I will take you through
the latest information here on this. We see what really happened.
The Justice Department has had to turn over documents. And
this is all because Sidney Powell, this this lawyer who

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has taken up General Flynn's cause. She saw what she
saw what happened here, and She's like, I'm not allowing this,
you know. Flynn and originally went to Covington and Burling.
That was the firm that he went to represent him.
And it's funny, actually used to live like across the
street from their office, and he did this thinking that

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they were going to represent his best interest. Now it
looks like they had a massive conflict of interest and
they were not acting on his behalf in ways that
they should have. Here's the quick review of what happened here.
General Flynn, the National Security Advisor, former DA director, and

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thirty plus year military veteran. He had a couple of
FBI guys sent to talk to him after there was
a news story about a conversation that he had. Someone
leaked a conversation that he had with the ambassador. The
criminal league by the way, and this person whoever league,
they should go to prison. They should sit in a cell.

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They should go to prison for this. You're not allowed
to do this, not going to play games with secret
information in this way, someone in the government betrayed their
oath and broke the law. They should go to prison.
It's not General Flynn. So this league happened to ignacious
The Washington post, and then the FBI guys decided that
they were because you know, initially Flynn was denying, and look,

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maybe Flynn kind of forgot what he said to the
you know, he didn't have the transcript of the conversation,
but he said no, you know, he denied it. And
then they figured that they were going to go and
get him. That was some of you will recall from
from Ghostbusters when they see the first ghost in the
New York Public Library, and you know, they go, stay close,

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stay close, get her, and that's their whole plan, you know,
And afterwards Bill Murray's kind of laughing, that was your
whole plan, get her, get Flynn was the plan. That
was all this was. There was no reason, there was
no real crime, there was no investigation. And we remember
from James Coomey that they were taking advantage of an
administration in change in flux. You know, the transition is underway,

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and they were taking advantage of that for partisan purposes.
So you have a new presidential team coming in with
obviously tremendous responsibility, a lot of authority, a lot of power,
representing the interest of the American people. Duly elected in
twenty sixteen, despite all the whining and crying from Libs.
Who should cry more? Cry more, Libs? Please? You know

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you're gonna be Oh, man, I certainly the party that
I'm gonna throw. I don't care if it's a party
for one, but the party that I'm going to have
if Trump wins reelection this fall, Man, we are going
to go. We are going to go jet skiing in
a lake of liberal tiers if Trump wins, and I
still think there's a very good chance he will. But anyway,

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I don't want to get ahead of myself. So they
send in, They send in these two FBI agents, and
now we have notes about the thought processes, thought processes
around this. Here's what Fox News breaks it down. Handwritten
notes by the FBI's former head of counterintelligence, Bill Prestapp

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after a meeting with then FBI Director James Comey and
then FBI Director Andrew McCabe, suggested the agents planned to
get Flynn to admit to breaking the Logan Act in
the alternative when he spoke to then Russian Ambassador Sergei
Kiseljak during the presidential transition period. What is our goal,
one of the notes read truth admission or get him

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to lie so we can prosecute him or get him
fired if we get him to admit to breaking the
Logan Act. Give facts a DOJ and have them decide.
Another note read Constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley called the
documents implications chilling folks. This is exactly what I have
been telling you all along. They did here. They created

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a completely absurd pretext, an absurd pretext to bring a
ridiculous charge or to create a ridiculous criminal predicate that
no one really thinks this is a crime. This is
kafka ask I mean, this is Soviet style abuse of

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the law by pretending that there's nothing in the law
that has to make any sense whatsoever, by misinterpreting it
and misapplying it for political purposes. This is a disgrace.
James Comey should be in prison. Andrew McCabe should be
in prison. McCabe should definitely be in prison for lying
under oath that they just gave him a pass on

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this because they didn't want to hurt morale inside these institutions.
Let me tell you something, the FBI is not gonna
be able to live this down for a long time.
Anytime there's a political political edge to an investigation that's
going on with the DGEN the FBI. Now, people are
rightly going to ask a whole lot of questions. Is
this on the up and up? Is this a bunch

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of deep state libs taking out their aggression on somebody
that they don't like politically. That's what Peter Struck did,
That's what Lisa Page did. And Comey and McCabe they
were every bit as bad as we said. They were
every bit. And if you're wondering what was Comey's role
in the Comy thinks he's a hero for this. I
mean he is truly a sociopath. I mean, Comy's got

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real problems. This guy's a loon. He was the FBI director, folks.
He was a US attorney sending people to prison for
a long time, making the determinations about who gets charged
and who doesn't. This guy is a sanctimonious, self righteous loon.
And he was at the very top of the United

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States law enforcement apparatus after the Attorney General, arguably the
most powerful law enforcement figure in the country. And we
think this is okay, of course not. But he's gonna
he's gonna skate. He's got a seven figure book deal
and he's gone around giving speeches and here's what he
said about his role in all of this play seventeen.

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I sent them something we I probably wouldn't have done
or maybe gotten away with in a more organized investigation
and more organized administration in the George W. Bush administration,
for example, or the Obama administration. The protocol two men
that all of us have perhaps increased appreciation for over

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the last two years. And in both of those administrations,
there was process. And so if the FBI wanted to
send agents into the White House itself to interview a
senior official, you would work through the White House Council
and they be discussions and approvals and who would be there.

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And I thought it's early enough, let's just send a
couple of guys over. And so we placed a call
to Flynn, said, Hey, we're sending a couple of guys over.
I hope you'll talk to them. He said, sure. Nobody
else was there. They interviewed him in a conference room
at the White House Situation Room, and he lied to them.

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And that's what he's now played guilty too. It's pleaded guilty,
which you would think the FBI director would know the
proper terminology and beyond that, he used, he exploited the
disarray and the frenzied nature of a presidential transition for
a political hit. That's what this was. It was a

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political hit. And notice you look, Look, the FBI has
got big problems here, folks. This is not going to
just go away. Current FBI Director Chris Ray doesn't look
like he is willing to wash the dirty laundry properly
within his own institution. You know, the CIA rightfully got
pounded pounded in the public's eye for nine to eleven

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and then for the Iraq WMD debacle. Okay, my old
agency got absolutely crushed in the in the public's mind
for those two. Now, the CIA, I mean the nine
to eleventh thing was intelligence community wide, so that was
more diffuse anger, but it was certainly a failure at
the CIA was actually really in a lot of ways
a bigger failure at the FBI. But conversation for another time.

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And then the Iroq WMD thing, which really was blamed
on Bush. But the CIA should have done better, that's
just the truth. Now we have the FBI, which is
much more concerning to us than the CIA, because CI
doesn't have law enforcement powers here. CIA can't show up,
take you out of the shower in front of your
family at gunpoint and lock you in a cell. CI

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actually can't do that in this country. They won't do
that in this country. FBI can just ask Roger Stone.
They'll send thirty guys with long guns and tack gear
on while you're having tea with your wife and your
silk pajamas watching reruns of The Price Is Right, and
they'll make sure that they come at five o'clock in
the morning and that CNN is there. Oh yeah, because

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they got lucky. Remember that whole thing. CNN is a
bunch of liars. These people have lost it, my friends.
They can't go back and reclaim their honor because they
don't have any and they don't care. We'll get into
the media angle of this in a second. But this
is the deep state. This is real. We have proof,
We've had a proof for a long time. But this
is even more. This is smoking gun the Logan Act.

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You're going to have a conversation with the incoming National
Security Advisor about the Logan Act. The guys allowed to
talk to people. First of all, the Logan Act is unconstitutional.
Start with that. How could you even apply this. It's
unconstitutionally vague and unconstitutionally broad, and no one ever charges it.
So that's why it hasn't gotten overturned. But they decided
they were going to just try to dust this one off.

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You show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
That was Laventi barrier of the Soviet secret police. That's
what they're doing here. That's the approach. And now there's
no question about it. Flynn should not only be pardoned.
People that were a part of this should be run
out of the public square and should serve prison time.

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And you don't hear me, So I'm not somebody says, oh,
people should go to jail for this or that, you know,
some of the Benghazi stuff, for example, from the Obama administration,
that was in competence. It was indifference, it was stupidity.
But you're not. You can't send people to jail for
being morons. There are else a lot more politicians would
be in jail this though. This is malice, this is
abuse of power, This is ruining lives. There needs to

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be justice for this. We cannot allow this to stand.
They went after one of the top White House officials
of an incoming administration to settle a pro Hillary vendetta.
That's what this was. And also because all these people
in DC that have been working there for decades and
have reached the highest levels of the bureaucracy, they think

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they're so much more clever and important than they are.
And let me tell you, they're overwhelmingly, deeply unimpressive. The
people who work there to day in these places, some
of them are fantastic. Some of them are bumps on
a log, they're workless, but some of them are fantastic.
I've known both the people that rise to the top, though,
especially in a Democrat administration. Remember Obama pointed Toomey, the

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people that rise to the top bureaucracy is like this
in Komi McCabe. They're just all pretending and they hope
that people don't find out that they're really just frauds.
You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sex

(17:16):
and Show podcast. I mentioned before. The media's role in
all this, as they were celebrating the destruction of General Flynn,
after all the time that he had served his country,
after all the good that he had done for this nation.
I just want to remind everyone that whether it's General Flynn,
Justice Kavanaugh. Nicholas Sandman of the Commington High School. Liberal

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journals are willing to set these people up with lies
and then pounce on them like hyenas, with no regard
for the lives and families that they ruin. And do
you ever see the journals apologize? Do you ever see
these journalists who run with these stories and then put
analysts on to amplify the stories by felling in what
they don't have facts on so far, even if the

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facts are initially wrong with their own supposition. Do you
ever see the journals go on TV and say we
were wrong about this one. General Flynn was set up.
I'm sorry, America. Do you ever see that? No, you don't.
And yet do you ever see on the other side
people that are destroyed by conservatives and then it turns

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out they were entirely innocent. No, what names come to mind?
Jesse's small att Oh, that's right, he wasn't innocent at all.
He's a total fraud. Journalists in America overwhelmingly have neither
introspection nor honor. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson
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app or wherever you get your podcasts team. You know
that I've been warning about the overreach that is inevitable here,
that we would go from a period of a perceived consensus.
Now that's not the same thing is a real consensus,
but people use the term so that they'll say, everyone
agrees that we should do this thing that I want

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to do. There's a consensus, right, They pretend, for example,
that they have one on climate change and how we
have to tackle the problem of climate change. But there
are these there are these these signposts that you can
look for, these transition points that will always happen where
at first it's there's consensus that the government has to
take a certain action, and then it's when the government

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begins to fail, we're told, well, we had no choice
because everyone agreed that we had to do this. And
then when you realize, wait, but we did have a choice,
they say, shut up, peasant, stay indoors. We have power.
Now this is the way it's going to be. That's
the natural progression when you're dealing with the state, and
when you're dealing with the trajectory of unchecked government power,

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which is what we've been seeing in this country, when
the government can show up and tell you your business
shut down no reason other than we say so. Yeah,
they can claim that it's for a virus and all
this other stuff. Fine, But there are states where there
are a few hundred people who died from this, which
means there are far more people over the same period
of time who have been dying from a whole bunch

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of ailments and sicknesses out there. We're not shutting down
for those. Now. New York is different. I understand the
same way that if Louisiana is hit by a hurricane,
God forbid, but that's happened the past. Louisiana is a disaster.
You've got to do a lot of stuff for Louisiana.
You don't do that for Michigan, though, you don't do
that for Montana, right, I mean, so, we took this

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approach of a nationwide lockdown without really thinking this through.
And we also recognize that giving once the national consensus
again there's that word it creeps in. You started using it.
Once the national perception was that we all had to
do this, then state governors and law enforcement that respond

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to state governors, they will do whatever they can to
increase their authority in their power, because they at first
think that they've got a responsibility, and then the frustration
sets in that they're not they're not changing things the
way that they might have thought, and so they want
more power, they want more responsibility. I gotta tell you
this is just a side note, but I I was

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walking a little Telou the frenchie, who is quite adorable,
and I liked we like to wrap her up. I
like to wrap her up these days like a little burrito,
and I call it a Toledo because she's like a
Tolou burrito. I know this is what happens when you
spend like twenty four hours a day with a dog

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and it's really your only companion. So anyway, but I
was walking her outside your face mask on, of course,
just kidding. I don't wear a face mask when I
walk the dog. That's stupid. But as someone came, I
saw someone was double parked and they had their hazards on.
And keep in mind, there's very few cars on the street,
and there's no traffic to speak of. There's very few

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people on the street. Producer Mark, how long do you
think it took the NYPD tow truck to throw that
BMW on the back and take it off to the
to the the impound half hour, Oh, my friend, three minutes,
three minutes the guy, the guy leaves double Park. He's

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got he's got his hazards on. There's no cars, there's nothing,
and roof right, you know, he goes off. I felt
so bad, as where is the guy? We gotta get him.
We can't let him get his car, Toad. That's one thing.
I feel like everybody always has sympathy unless you're being
a real jerk and blocking traffic or something. But if
you know, when when you leave the car and the
fire lane or something and there's no fire and you

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get that, you get Toad. It was a nice car too.
There's a there's a new Beamer. You know. Beamer drivers
tend to think they can do whatever they want, so
I don't really feel bad for them. But this guy.
It was just it was so interesting because, um, when
you know, when I used to work for the NYPD,
there was a government. The the the example of government

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efficiency that even the cops and point two is ticket
writing in tow trucks. And it's very obvious why that is, right, Well,
why is the city so good at writing tickets for
traffic violations and you know, for for parking, and why
are they so good at at deploying toe trucks. It's
just money in the bank. It's just revenue. But you know,
even even now when you would think that, you know,

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maybe if somebody might get a little bit of a
break or whatever. Man it was this guy was like
a toe truck ninja. I mean, it was just boop
boop poop, car in the back and it was gone.
I was like, oh, rough, it's rough, but it's money.
They want money. I mean, the city is desperate for
cash right now. And that's going to be true of
a lot of cities in a lot of places. And
you're going to start to see, you know, people talking

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about cutbacks and essential services. That puts additional pressure on
cops in law enforcement across the board, and then they
feel additionally stressed because they're pulling longer shifts and ot
is cut bag. I mean just telling you, I know,
this stuff all starts to spiral. It gets bad fast.
So while I did have a moment of a moment

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of just got a feel for the guy who's car,
you know, you got to spend like an hour at
the impound. Now it's going to cost you about five
hundred bucks to get your car back. Oh man, it's rough.
It's rough. You also see what's going to happen in
these cities, and they're the bureaucracies. They're once their funding
gets cut off, the bureaucracies getty pretty aggressive and they

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start taking going after the citizens with things like well
and any way they can drive up Revene anyway. So
I've been warning you about how this is going to happen,
and you know now that it is happening in different places.
Parents are being arrested in playgrounds for taking their children
out of open air. Who has the science on their side?
The parent who with their kid member, The kids and

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the parents all live in the same home and they're
constantly interacting. So trying I mean social distancing, but among
immediate family members is not something that's really happening. I mean,
maybe if you're somebody who's at high risk. Kids are
at almost no risk, I mean basically zero risk. So
maybe if you're social distancing to keep grandma or grandpa safe,
you know, that might work. It's very unlikely to be

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an easy thing to do. Maybe it'll work. But for families,
you know, a husband and wife and their young children,
there's the science is absolutely on their side, not on
the side of the cop. Who. I do admit I
feel bad when cops are being told you got to
clear the park and that's the city ordinance, you know,
that's the rule. You know, what are they what are
they going to do? I mean now, I think that

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they can use discretion. And I know a lot of
law enforcement listens to the show, and you guys know,
you know, it always comes down to people, right. I mean,
you can see this in some of these videos. I'm
about to play a video that that things. It sends
a chill up your spine. It's not not a good
video about a law enforce interaction with people. But I'm
very sensitive to it. You know, if you're if you're
being respectful. You know, I gave a I mentioned a

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few weeks ago, maybe a week or two ago, that
I and a sometimes Secret Service can be a little imperious.
It's because I had a an interaction with one of
the with one of the family members, not not for
Trump himself, but with the Secret Service member. And I
was completely right and being respectful, and the guy was
being a jerk. And I know the difference because I've
been on different sides of that equation. And he was out,
he was out of line, and maybe he was having

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a bad day. Maybe you know, maybe his wife is
you know, angried and for something. Who knows right and
not get that? People are people. When you're dealing with
law enforcement, and I know all the cops and former
cops listening to this, no first thing is how how
are you responding to the law law enforcement request? Are
you showing that you are being reasonable and cooperative? That's
always step one. I actually think that they should I

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don't know if they do, I will say that, but
I think that they should teach this in school. You know,
I'm going to tell you this right now. I remember
being when I was a freshman in high school to
take you know, they took a banana and a prophylactic
device and they you know, they actually they actually do that,
like they taught us how to do that, you know,
in health class. We had a health class, you know,

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And I feel like it would be important for people
to learn first of all, basic finance and accounting so
you can manage your own your own economic and financial
future better. That would have been helpful. But beyond that,
they should have people. They should do it like a
role play where you're dealing with cops. I think it's
a smart thing and all it shows you is just
be respectful and don't you know, don't antagonize them. Don't

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antagonize them. A lot of people do that and then
they start doing the wire. You're putting your hands on
me and you're not allowed to arrest me, and you
can't do that. Actually they can in that You can
always adjudicate it later. You can sue, you can bring
a court action, but in that moment, I'm not getting arrested.
Today is not an option. So you know, you get

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into this difficult, this tension. That's one side of it.
The other side of it is cops are people to
have got a cop of my immediate family? Cops are people, well, yeah,
I think it is. You know aunt's uncles, those are
those are considered immediate or no, well in my family, sorry,
in my family. I don't want you guys to do
a deep dive and say, wait a second, Buck's dad

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is a cop. No, No, one of my one of
my one of my uncles is law enforcement. But you
look at this and you say to yourself, Okay, everyone
understands that there's some pretty wacky rules out there, some
pretty bad regulations that are being enforced on US Governor
Gavin Newsom. This just happened last night. I should have

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mentioned at the top of the show. He is closing
beaches in California to punish people because too many people
weren't social distancing enough. Collective punishment is the calling card
of authoritarianism. I mean, collective punishment is like a baseline
reality in authoritarian societies. And that's what Governor Newsom's doing. Oh,

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you guys don't social distance enough, I'm gonna take I'm
gonna take away your beach access. Well, everyone gets their
beach access taken away because some people aren't. And the
beach is all one of the safest places you can be.
It's that's the whole thing. Is so stupid where surround
with so much stupidity, But it isn't coming up on
law enforcement to make good decisions about this stuff. And
they they also you know, so I said before, you

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got to be respectful law enforcement. But there's it's a
two way street. Law enforcement has to use its discretion appropriately.
You know, law enforcement has to be willing to uh,
you know, they've got a lot of authority. They can
let you go with the warning, or they can just
say hey, as a head's up, you know, or they
can make a big thing of it. And everyone knows this, right,

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Sometimes they're going a little too far. This is what
happened in where this was in Wisconsin, and here's how
the exchange went. Producer Mark play it. So are you
aware that we're in a stadth Hoole order right now? Yeah? Obvious? Kay,
you're aware of that. I am aware. I don't need
to explain that to you. No, you don't need to

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explain to you. Can you can because your officer was
just here two weeks ago, could you, And he explained
it to me that you guys weren't enforcing that order. Okay,
you understand it though, Okay, So why are you here?
Because your daughter is going to play at other people's
home and you're allowing it to happen. They were over
here as well, So are you here? Okay? So now

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I understand okay, And so either you can acknowledge it
or you can argue I'm I'm acknowledging it. Okay, stop
having your kid go by other people's home. Stop having
your kid go by other people's homes. This woman got
a got a visit from two sheriff's deputies to tell
her that her child, who I guess we could assume

(30:38):
is probably you know, usually if you're arranging played eights
kids like six or seven or eight or something, a
young kid going over to play with other kids. No, no,
stay locked at home. Because they say so. Children are
at almost zero risk from I mean to say that,
you can't technically say they're at zero risk. But also,
you know, you can't say at zero risk for someone

(31:01):
to drink water because the water could be contaminated. You know,
the water could have bacteria, could have you know, salmonella
in it, or a garda or something, and you could die.
You could die from that glass of water that you're
drinking right now. I can't I can guarantee you you're
not going to die from it. That's crazy, though, right.
We don't think that way. That's not how we approach life.
We always build into our actions and to our assumptions.

(31:22):
Some assessment of the real risk. The real risk to
children from this virus is zero, and the risk of
transmission increasingly we're seeing from children to adults. I can't
explain why this is, but we're seeing study after study
that suggests the risk of transmission from children to adults
is also very very low. So here you have a
woman who doesn't want her daughter to not have not

(31:44):
be able to see any friends. We're going on now
six weeks. This is going to be week seven of lockdown.
And you know, kids are out of school, they're locked
at home all day, they're not developing, they don't have
the normal growth and the normal mechanisms in place to
foster a healthy environment for them. And sheriff's deputies are

(32:04):
showing up and telling her, you know, you're you're gonna
either you're what exactly. Also, that's the other thing that
they're gonna arrest her. I mean, like the way to
do this would have been a sheriff's deputy come knocked
door and be like, look, you know, we understand this sucks,
we understand this doesn't really make much sense. But ken
yet now maybe now, maybe I think there's a suggestion
that this is her second time. Maybe they did that
the first time. So I try to be fair, we're

(32:25):
only seeing slice of this situation. But you know, they assuming,
you know, if I'm that cop and I'm going over there,
I'm gonna say, look, this is kind of it's kind
of crazy, I know, but let's just, uh, let's assume
going forward that we're gonna be a little more and
a little more willing to respect this rule. It's as
dumb as it is. You know, try something like that first.

(32:45):
But instead, do we have mark with them saying put
her on the list? Or do I just stry just
verbalize that one. Okay, Well, they go on in the
clip and it's fine, you don't need to hear all this,
but they go on in. The female sheriff's deputy who's
there is asking her name, and she's like, why do
I have to the woman who who is the mother
of this daughter who, heaven forbid when and played with
some other kids. They're asking her name. She says, why

(33:06):
don't have to give you my name? And you know,
this is where you start to get into that cops
going to escalate. It's getting a little more antagonistic, and
it says because they want to put her on a list,
a list of people who are being uncooperative with the
stupid regulations. This is a dumb regulation. This is this
does not make sense, that not allowing kids to see
other kids, it's it's the science doesn't back this up.

(33:26):
We're told listen to the science. A science does not
support the Wisconsin state order here that these law enforcement
officers are being told that they must they must enforce.
So then you're putting people on list though, and you're
marking them was uncooperative. Well, what kind of list is this?
Is it a criminal charge? It is this going into
some kind of report for what? This is not? This

(33:49):
is not good. This is not the role of police,
This is not the role of the state at all.
It shouldn't be done this way. And I know that
they are starting to be some challenges to the constitutionality
of all this, but we shouldn't get to that point
because stupid policies like not letting kids see other kids

(34:09):
right now do not have any do not have any
scientific basis for them. And we have people that don't
know enough to pass a sixth grade basic science class
telling us what we can do with our day to
day lives because of the science. These people are these people,
the politicians that are making these determinations, they're morons. They

(34:30):
don't know anything. They're deeply ignorant. I mean, if nothing else,
this is a reminder of how feckless and worthless most
of our political class really is. That's what we see
happening here. But the overreach is just going to get worse.
You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sex
and Show podcast. The data shows that ramdesivia has a

(34:57):
clear cut, significant positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery.
This is really quite important for a number of reasons,
and I'll give you the data. It's highly significant. If
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(35:18):
to fifteen days. And that's a p value for the
scientists who are listening of zero point zero zero one.
So that's something that although a thirty one percent improvement
doesn't seem like a knockout one hundred percent, it is
a very important proof of concept because what it is
proven is that a drug can block this virus. Some

(35:44):
good news, folks, at a time when we could really
use it. From des of your is not a silver bullet,
but it's something and it shows that we can have
better things soon. Hopefully, but it is good news. Thanks
for listening to The bus Stson Show podcast. Remember to
subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you

(36:04):
get your podcasts. Senator Mitch McConnell, you are bailing out
in New York when every year you take out more
from the kitty, the federal pot, thirty seven billion dollars
more than you put in. Who is bailing out whom?

(36:25):
Senator to Scott Florida, You're gonna bail us out. You
take out thirty billion dollars more every year than you
pay in. How dare they? How dare they win? Those
are the facts? How long are you going to play
the American people and assume they're stupid? They are not,

(36:50):
and they can add and they know facts. And I
don't care what the news media tries to do to
distort these facts. They are numbers and they are facts,
and they can't be distorted. And this is every year.
So the fight among the states is also a financial one.

(37:13):
As we see, you have the pressure to reopen red
states blue states. Blue states are going to move more
slowly on this. Hopefully the red states like Texas will
do very well, though Texas is opening is going on.
Are pretty They're they're moving cautiously. They're not jumping into
the deep end of the pool here. They're they're moving

(37:33):
at a relatively slow pace, but they are opening up.
Twenty five percent of businesses will be able to operate.
So I hope things are going well, especially down in Austin.
Are wonderful affiliate their KLBJ Austin. I hope you folks
are doing all right. I was planning. I've been planning
for a long time to get to Austin, although I
think that it's gonna have to wait until I'm allowed
to fly on planes. But I know Texas is moving

(37:56):
along and that will hopefully put additional pressure on these
blue states to it up and running. Two. But there's
also the financial obligations component of this, and this is
going to be a very interesting discussion. It should be easy,
it should be straightforward. A state might be able to
make the case, I think, especially in New York, State's
going to make this case that virus specific budget shortfalls

(38:20):
deserve federal assistance. And that's the same way that if
a state was decimated by a hurricane or an earthquake,
there would be federal funding. There would be federal assistance.
I think that that's that's a fair case to make,
and there's there's merit in that. The problem comes up
when all of a sudden people are saying, well, why

(38:40):
don't we just and we got we're spending trillions, why
don't we get an extra you know, ten billion here,
twenty billion there, to take the debt off the state's
books for stuff that has nothing to do with the
actual virus shutdown. That's where you get in this fight
with miss mcconaughs and Miss McConnell had said maybe some
states should be allowed to go bankrupt. New York State,

(39:03):
for understand, I think has has a hundred and thirty
billion dollar debt. It's a lot of money. New York
is very very deep in the red. There are other
states Illinois, producer, Mark, would you tell me what the
Illinois state debt is? I don't want to look at
it right now. I can't try to look it up
while we're on air. But let me know what the
Illinois state debt is. Some of these states have run
up enormous tabs, and right now there's a very clear

(39:26):
political incentive for them. While the piggy bank of the
treasury has been shattered, and everyone's just grabbing, grabbing for
whatever they can get, and it's gross. There's a lot
of that's going on. We all know what's happening. But
while that's going on, these states are seeing this as
an opportunity themselves to get some of their debts taken away.

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Remember the debts that states are running up are overwhelmingly
from one thing. Say with me, folks, public sector pensions.
That's what that's what they huge issue is here when
you look at some of the some of the contracts
and remember that you got one party rule at the

(40:07):
state level in a place like in a place like
New York, in a place like California. Wow, Illinois had
to producer mark Illinois two hundred and three billion dollars
in the red, two hundred three billion dollars debt for
a state. That's that's remarkable. So that's why we see

(40:30):
this in states are saying, hey, you know, maybe they
won't get the whole thing wiped away, but can you
imagine if you're a state you get to have your
your public debt cut in half or even cut it
down by twenty or thirty percent. Oh, what a windfall
that would be for public sector unions, which are the
ones that are the most egregious. I don't know, and

(40:51):
again people get mad at me for this one, but
the most egregious public sector union with this stuff is
the teachers union. It's the teachers unions and the EDGE
and the edge ucation departments for these different states. That's
where a huge portion of this budget shortfall comes from
yearning year AT's why property taxes keep going up in
these places. That's why the state taxes are as high
as they are. And there's there's an unholy alliance between

(41:15):
the Democrat left and these public sector particularly the public
sector unions, and it's a huge source of political donations
and political muscle to make sure Democrats stay in charge
in these places. The reason the pension benefits are so big,
and this is not that complicated to understand it. To
find out the pension benefits are big because that's something
that's back ended and so that they can do a calculation,

(41:38):
they'll promise the unions, hey, you know, you guys, we
can't pay you all one hundred and fifty grand, right,
we can't pay a public school teachers on Well, they'll
pay administrators money like that sometimes depends on the school district.
But we're not gonna be able to pay teachers that,
but we will be able to give you, you know,
full benefits, full healthcare and retirement for you know, for

(42:02):
the rest of your life. And with twenty years of service.
I mean, you know, you have to look at what
the specific contracts are for different places. But after twenty
years of service, regardless of how old you are, and
you can go get another job, you're gonna have full
benefits the rest of your life. Really sweet back end
deals that are very expensive, very expensive. I remember when
I was I was not actually a uniformed officer, so

(42:22):
I was a contract civilian effectively brought in as an
outside expert to work with the NYPD as as a civilian,
but I knew what some of the deals were in
place and what the union had negotiated. If you're NYPD,
you know, you get to retire. At least when I
was in when I was working there, you could retire
after twenty it doesn't matter how old you were, so

(42:44):
you could retire in your forties with full pension and
benefits for you and your family, which was which was
a pretty amazing deal. When you think about it, and
the healthcare that they have is effectively they don't really
pay anything for it, and it's good healthcare. I had
terrible healthcare as a contracts civilian, and Hypd's healthcare for
me was total garbage. So anyway, that's where the big

(43:07):
budget shortfall comes in. And this is long term spending.
These are bad habits that states have that they don't
want to be held to account for. That's why Trump
comes along and he's like, Okay, well, you know we're
gonna have a conversation about this. That there's going to
be bailouts for these states. It's not going to be
as easy as just you know, we want money, give
us money. The federal government doesn't have to do that.

(43:28):
There's no obligation of the federal government to come along
and financially make these states whole or solve it. Even so,
this is what the President said, play clip twelve. I
don't think you should have sanctuary cities if they get
that kind of aid. You know, if you're going to
get aid to the cities and states, if for the
kind of numbers you're talking about billions of dollars, I

(43:50):
don't think you should have sanctuary cities. And by the way,
the people that have sanctuary cities, they don't like it.
I think politicians like it a lot more. I go
to California, I go to lots of different places. Sanctuary
cities are going to be a part of this fight.
The Department of Justice has already been taking this on
the Department of Justice does not want this to be

(44:11):
something that continues. So we'll see. We'll see if the
President holds to this, but there might be some negotiating
over what states get, what they can do, and how far,
how far this bailout is really going to stretch the
red states and blue states. We are seeing we're seeing
federalism at work, but as we know, that can be
a messy and loud process. It's not a seamless, not

(44:35):
a seamless situation. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is
the Buck Sex and Show podcast. We're now on average
about thirty thousand tests per day, which is a dramatic
increase now where we need to be, but a dramatic increase.

(44:57):
Where we are now. You should know is New York
State is doing more than most countries are doing. So
we have been very aggressive and testing and we have
made great progress, and New Yorkers should feel good about that,
but we have more to do. You know that I've
been skeptical of how successful will be in the biggest

(45:22):
single point that you'll hear from the shutdown, lockdown forever
chorus or the lockdown until it's safe, which is not
a thing. There's not going to be until it's there's
not going to be a safe unless a miracle happens.
And we don't wait for miracles. We don't shut down
our economy hoping for a miracle. But test in trace
has been the refrain, right, Oh, we're just going to

(45:42):
test in trace. That's what we're That's how we handle this,
that's what we'll do. And I've been saying, well, on
the one end, there's just the civil liberties issue of
having people. Now that we're hiring these tracers, people are
gonna talk to you about everyone you've talked to you
and been around a little creepy from a big those
of us that worry about big government, that should be

(46:03):
an issue. I would think it's an issue. But then
you'll also add into this the competency or lack thereof,
if the government to even do this proct now now
testing fun. We're going to test at a high level.
But remember we're being told that if we test enough,
that'll be that will allow us to suppress the virus,

(46:24):
which would mean we'd have to be testing large numbers
of asymptomatic people. We'd have to be able to the
system would have to sustain that. And then we have
this tracing capacity where anyone who has the virus, they're
going to track down all their contacts and find out
who and make sure they get tested right away so
that they know if they have it before they infect
other people. I does this sound plausible to you, because

(46:46):
let me just say this, the unemployment numbers that came
out today, which we all know are are just jaw dropping,
but we kind of expect it, right, there's no surprise.
You're three point eight million more of sought jobless benefits.
But we're also seeing that the states that are supposed
to be dolling out money here, including the six hundred

(47:06):
dollars a week of additional benefit from the federal government,
which is why now you have so many employees who
don't want to go back, don't want to work when
they could just stay home and keep getting paid more money.
You know, I love this job, but I don't want
to know if I double producer mark salary and said,
producer Mark, you can stay home for double the salary,

(47:28):
or you can come in and work. You know, I
might have to ask him at least pretty pleased to
actually come back in and work, right, And that would
be true of anybody if you're making more money, considerably
more money in a lot of cases, for folks staying
home than you are working, the incentive to work goes down.
But the states not only that they have to deal
with this problem where people don't want to go back
and work, there's also an inability for these states to

(47:52):
dole out the money properly and to process the unemployment applications.
They're not really able to do that. You say, well,
how is that possible? Well? Wall Street Journal has a
really good piece on it today about the surge in
jobless benefits testing state systems. Here's what they tell you.

(48:13):
Many states unemployment benefits systems quote are hamstrung by archaic,
decades old technology, coping with relief legislation that provides an
additional six hundred dollars a week in benefits and making
independent contractors such as Uber and drivers Uber Drivers Eligible
has created additional strains. The administrative problems means the official

(48:36):
tally of twenty six million initial claims is almost certainly
an undercount. About six hundred thousand people tried to apply
for benefits in the week end at April twenty third,
but we're unable to file due to long waits or
other reasons. Then then they do. So the system is

(48:58):
decades old technology. I've told you before about my experience
the NYPD using a and this was in two thousand
and eleven, so almost ten years ago. But they were
using a system I'm not kidding. It ran on DOSS.
So it was like you know, the little, the little
I don't even know how to describe, how to describe it,
but this is I think almost before producer Mark was alive.

(49:19):
But you know, C colon, dash, dash tab, semi colon.
That's and we were It was always this big joke
and frustration in the office that we're using a DOSS system.
This thing is quite literally from I think then maybe
the early nineties, and that was what we had to
do to pull up files for things was absurd, absurd.

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But states have a lot of stuff like that where
they don't want to. They don't want to invest. You
don't get votes. You know you don't. You don't consolidate
your power as a state government by making sure that
people are more efficient at their jobs. No, remember this,
the government always has an incenti of state governments in particular. Well,
all governments really have an incentive to be inefficient because

(50:06):
their inefficiency becomes the justification for a greater demand for resources.
So they need more people, they need more stuff, they
need more money, they need more money. Well, why make
someone better at their job when you could hire three
people to do one job. So you have to keep
that in mind. That's how the government functions as a
general rule. Than The Wall Street Journal brings his home

(50:29):
by explaining what this means for people that states, Remember
the states, they're going to do the test and trade system.
They're gonna do test and trace, but they can't handle
the jobless applications out there. But they're going to handle
test and trace really well, does anybody believe this? Journal?
Here reports that a resident of New Jersey, amber Montserrat,
said she had a pass to electricity bill and rent

(50:51):
to pay, but still doesn't know when she'll receive on
employment benefits. She's a mother of four boys and her
family's main breadwinner. She started applying for unemployed I mean
in mid March. She was laid off from her job
as a waitress because of the pandemic. She now works
one day a week delivering meals to families in the
school district. She calls the New Jersey Department of Labor
and Workforce every day to find out what the hold

(51:12):
up is, but has not been able to get through.
So people have no money, they have no job. We've
just been told the governments at trying to just shovel
money to them as fast as they can, and they're
not even able to do that. But we're going to
have a massive program of finding all cases, finding all

(51:32):
positives and everyone that they've come into contact with once
they're positib we're gonna set that up real fast. Does
anyone want to place bets and whether the buckster is
going to end up looking right on this one or not.
Quote I'm reading that the system is over forty years old.
It's pen and pencil type stuff. She said. That's not
really acceptable now when you have people that are relying

(51:53):
on these services, it is not acceptable, is it? This
is why you don't want state governments in charge of things.
This is why you don't want the government running your
whole economy. There are reasons for the beliefs that we
have has conservative. There are reasons why we want limited government.
It's not because we're mean, it's not because we're all
Ebenezer Scrooge. It's because we understand the limitations and the

(52:15):
built in lack of incentive for efficiency, for getting things
done well. And then the Wall Street Journal article then
gives you then this is a this is a classic.
This is what's going on in Connecticut. Remember, these are
unemployment systems that have been substandard for a long time,
and now they've just had the biggest deluge of claims

(52:35):
in history, and they're just breaking under the strain of
a New York system had to come down. I'll come
offline because it couldn't handle all the applications. Here's how
it is in Connecticut. The extra six hundred dollars this
is from the federal government pushes the highest eligible payout
to one two hundred and forty nine dollars. But Connecticut's
computer system was designed to handle only up to three

(52:57):
digit payments, pushing up the maximum to four digits would
require reviewing and modifying well over one hundred main frames.
That's right. Connecticut can't even give people the money that
they are legally due from the government because the Connecticut
system is so crappy that it only can process three
digit claims. So if they want to give you nine

(53:21):
hundred ninety nine dollars, you're good. But if your unemployment
check is going to be a thousand dollars, wow, wow,
too bad. But remember, folks, a massive campaign of consistent,
accurate testing across the populace that is mandatory. I suppose
how they're going to get people to do this. Maybe
people aren't gonna want to take all these tests all

(53:42):
the time, but put that aside for a moment, and
then finding finding these people once they're positive, and finding
the people they've come into contact with, test and trace.
That's the answer. New York State, state that can't give
you money that's due you, is going to make sure
that you know whether or not you've been infected and
everyone you come into contact with, and do so in

(54:04):
such a timely fashion that it prevents future outbreaks. I hope,
I'm I hope I'm wrong on this one. But I
don't think so. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson
Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, the iHeartRadio app,
or wherever you get your podcasts. I believe her. It's
obvious not okay. Her story is credible. If I believe

(54:28):
the women believe her, she is credible, she should be
heard and send it to treat her with respect and
dignity that she deserves the honesty, her integrity, her truth.
It's obvious you should be going to jail if he
was allowed to be prosecuted today, it's not okay. Do
you believe the allegation that's been put out there by

(54:48):
terror read against Biden? Vice President Biden has vehemently denied
these allegations, and I support Vice President Biden. Do you
think some of the Democrats who sup Blasi Forward's allegations
against Kavanaugh, who've been silent on this Biden allegation, do
you see that as a contradiction that they're not speaking
out more and addressing terror Reid's allegation. I stand by

(55:11):
Vice President Biden. He's devoted his life to supporting women,
and he has vehemently denied this allegation. Kirsen Jillibrand, Senator
from New York, telling everybody there back during the Kavanaugh error,
she totally believed Blasi for totally credible. It's great, Oh yeah,
we believe her. And then when I asked about the
Joe Biden accuser, it's I believe Joe Biden. Wait. I

(55:34):
thought women had a right to be believed. Now it's
Joe Biden has a right to be believed. I want
to bring in Saraje Hashmi from the Washington Examined or
Two weigh in on this one. Sarage, thanks man, first
time having you on. Appreciate you having me on. Buck. So,
I think that this is going to just get worse
and worse because the New York Times really set set

(55:54):
the initial tone of this by waiting two weeks and
then saying, yeah, well, we didn't think that Biden was
as much a public figure as Kavanaugh, which is just
a flatly absurd and kind of crazy thing to say.
And I've seen some efforts to try and claim that
the double standard here is not as bad as it
really is. Chris Hayes last night on MSNBC, to his credit,

(56:19):
brought up the allegations against Joe Biden and now fire
Chris Hayes is trending on Twitter. What is going on here?
It's actually incredible to see the double standard at play here.
Usually when you see things like this, usually you're running
the mill type of political story. This has to do
with sexual assault accusations against the presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

(56:45):
And Kate Kelly, who was the one of the writers
of the book about Brett Cavanaugh's accusations, works with The
New York Times. She wrote in a tweet about a
couple of weeks ago, how there was just a different
news ugment when they came to Bret Cavanaugh versus Joe Biden.
And that's why they didn't cover Joe Biden as aggressively

(57:07):
that they cover Bret Cavanaugh is the presumptive nominee. I mean,
how how different is that news judgment. It's all become
a point where it's if your side does it, we
should just give it an automatic pass. But if the
other side does, ah, shame on you, naughty boy. Yeah.
I just would wonder how any journalist who who was

(57:28):
taking the approach and it's in writing and you can,
you know, you find the clips online of them going
on cable news that women have I mean, the phrase
was women have a right to be believed, and they
completely believed Blasi Ford. And the standard that they set
up was that if there's even a doubt about Kavanaugh,
we should not put him in power. Right, That was
actually what was being said at the time, and I

(57:50):
remember I was very involved in that fight. So then
I want to know why is now the standard that
we just believe Joe Biden, because when the allegation against him,
there's nothing about it that is not credible. I mean,
I challenge somebody to find where the contradiction is or
where the absence of essential facts would be. Politics, in short,

(58:11):
has poisoned the well here and the well being the
Me too movement. It cannot be escaped. Rose McGowan, who
actually has been very consistent about her stance on sexual
assault accusations or any you know, any allegations of the
sexual misconduct nature, she is actually in a tweet last
night posted about her kind of dismail and how discourage

(58:34):
he was to see how she's been a lifelong Democrat
and all the Democrats are just rallying behind Joe Biden
in spite of these very well, could be very credible
accusations of sexual misconduct by Tara Reid against Joe Biden.
And what we're seeing right now is that you're just
gonna see the whole METO movement unravel to the point

(58:56):
where all the good will that was built up will
be to enough. We're speaking of Saraje Hashmi. He's a
commentary video expert at the Washington Examiner. Joe Biden hasn't
responded to this yet. Journalists, it seems, haven't been willing
to ask him about this yet. Nancy Pelosi has been

(59:19):
saying that she stands with him, of course, because you know,
Nancy Pelosi wants power. You had. Stacy Abrams claimed the
New York Times effectively exonerated Biden, which is not true.
Even the Times has said, well, we didn't do that,
or you know that that was found not credible. They
did not do that because there's no way to make
it not credible. So far, when does Biden have to

(59:40):
get asked about this or do you think it's possible
that that journalists are just going to try to, you know,
push this thing aside and ride it out until people
don't care anymore, which I don't know when that's going
to be. From what I'm hearing that terror Read is
strategically making sure that her story is being heard through
the media. You're yetting get heard by Chris Hayes on MSNBC.

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Eventually you're starting to hear You're actually starting to see
Brian Selter tweet about it. Albeit Brian Felter hasn't really
been sort of the best arbiter on what the media
should be covering and should not be covering. I'm hearing
from Ben Smith the New York Times, who's a media
reporter who's previously with bugs feeds that Tara Rita is
in discussions with Foxes to join Chris Wallace's show on Sunday.

(01:00:25):
We'll see what happens with that, because there's a good
chance that if she ends up becoming sort of a
staple within conservative media, then there's almost the immediate the
immediate backlash to that would be, Look, she's a she's
a plot of the conservative media's plot with the Republican
Party to try to destroy Joe Biden. Therefore her accusations

(01:00:46):
the sexual misconduct should be thrown out. So there's a
very there's a balancing actually has to play right now,
and it all it really depends on who she speaks
with and what she says. But the corroboration from Lynda
Lecass earlier this week, certainly there's a lot more than
what we've seen from Christine Blogge accord against Brett Kavanaugh.

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And do you think that the pressure on some of
the journalists out there to push Biden on this will
become too much? Because right now I mean meaning that
that he has to actually answer for this. I would
also just say, and this is an aside, this is
my opinions as a guy. If someone saying this about you,
I don't care what the circumstances are. If it's not true.

(01:01:29):
I think you say this is not true, this did
not happen. I don't think you allow your campaign to
do that for you. I think that's weird. But that's
my opinion. But what do you think about the journalists
out there who have access to Biden who have yet
to ask him about this. That's the thing I think
it's a good question to ask, is when it comes
to journalists having access to Joe Biden is asking the

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question about Tara Reid's accusation going to jeopardize their access
to the Democratic nominee. And I think for a lot
of reporters that's always been a fine line that they've
had to try to balance. Here. I think what we've
seen in the last week, in the last few days,
is that the amount of evidence or an amount of

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people talking about Tara Reid is going to become so
great that the mainstream media, that the main outlets, you know, CBS, NBC, MSNBC,
ABC and Fox News and CNN, they have to cover it.
It's too big of a story to ignore, and that
that's what you got to just keep talking about it,

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and Tara Reid has to continue to tell her story
and try to tell it as much as he possibly can,
but at the same time not get lost in the
woods of being trying to become herself a media start
because sometimes victims use Unfortunately, there's some victims out there
who use their story to sort of launch a career
in and of themselves, and I don't think Tarah Reid

(01:02:58):
is one of those types of Saraj Hashman of The
Washington Examiner, Saras, thanks so much for your time and
we'll talk to you soon. Thank you so much. Buck,
You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton
Show podcast. And finally, we need to ensure that women
have access to all health services during this crisis. Abortion

(01:03:22):
is the essential healthcare service. It's being used as a
political wedge right now, and it shouldn't be. The American
College of Obstetricians and kind Ecologists in the American Medical
Association degree that it shouldn't be categorized as a procedure
that can be delayed. It can't. I know that there's
the huge political double standard that we often talk about

(01:03:43):
when it comes to me too, but let's also remember
that there's always when it comes to any issues involving
women and how the left will treat people. If you
are pro life, they will try to destroy you and
you get no benefit of the doubt. You get no,
no second chance, nothing. If you are pro choice, you're

(01:04:04):
always going to be in a better category. I'm not
saying that it's a get out of jail free card,
but it's it's always going to be a better category
for you. And obviously, if you're a Democrat in your
pro choice and you're important to the movement, well then
you're Joe Biden. And then you know, look, he's going
to get a pass on this. There's no chance in
my mind that Joe Biden is going to be held
to account on this. What is perhaps perhaps still lingering

(01:04:29):
in the back of some people's minds, maybe it's just
my mind, is that a certain someone doesn't think that
this whole thing is totally over yet in terms of
the nomination and who the Democrat nominee is going to be.
There's someone out there who never says that it's all over,
you know, never says it, never says that it's time

(01:04:52):
to pack it in. There's you know, the unexpected can happen.
You know, things can just all of a sudden change
in your favor. You know, Epstein could no longer be
a problem in How did that happen? Right? I mean,
you know, things all of a sudden just change. You
have a crazy circumstance that breaks in your in your direction,

(01:05:16):
and you get to be the nominee who's thinking in
those terms, who's thinking about you know, maybe Biden is
a you know, has a health issue, a real health issue,
which I think we all see happening in real time anyway,
But you never know what's gonna happen when the Clintons
are in the background. You never know how things are
going to go. Here's Hillary talking about what she thinks

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is going on here play one. This is a high
stakes time because of the pandemic, but this is also
a really high stakes election. And every form of healthcare
should continue to be available in pluting reproductive healthcare for
every woman in this country, and then it needs to

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be part of a much larger system than eventually and
quickly I hope gets us to universal healthcare. So I
can only say amen to everything you're saying, but also
to again enlist people that this would be a terrible
crisis to waste. As the old saying goes, we've learned
a lot about what our absolute frailties are in our

(01:06:27):
country when it comes to health justice and economic justice.
So you know, let's be resolved that we're going to
solve those once you're elected president. I promise you that's
gonna be my objective. M Yeah, you better better be
your objective. Joke, because Hilary doesn't sound like somebody who
just has some helpful ideas, does she. She's in the
background of how she's still there, wondering when it will

(01:06:51):
be her time round three third time to charm she
tried twice. Want to give her a third goal. I'm
not going to give up until there's somebody else on
election day on the Democrat ballot. I'm not gonna say
that it's all it's all over. I'm just I'm sorry.
The Clintons. There is something truly you almost respect the malevolence.

(01:07:14):
You know, you almost have to say to yourself, it's
amazing what they're able to, what they've been able to endure,
and they just stick and they're so shameless and so
reckless and oh my gosh, really, you couldn't write better
political villains in some ways than the Clintons. They're they're
really in a class by themselves. Oh you know, I
mentioned climate change the other day, and if you want

(01:07:37):
to know how much the science is really driving the
discussion now, the the climatologist in chief, the world's most
famous climate change advocate, is now appearing in New York
City Department of Education videos telling us to listen to
the science on coronavirus. As if this wasn't politicized enough

(01:07:58):
by people who don't know what the heck they're talking about.
Here she is, you know, I'm talking about Greta Thunberg
play six. Listened to science and listen to the experts,
and that of course not only goes for the Corona crisis,
but also all crises, for example, the climate crisis and

(01:08:21):
the ecological crisis, which of course is still ongoing. Yes,
got to tie those things together. Listen to the scientists.
Thank you, Gretafortelli's listening to the scientists. What are the
scientists telling us about how we reopen our society and
how we go back to life? Oh you mean that's
not a scientific question, that's a societal question. That's something

(01:08:42):
that we have to just. I just it's amazing, isn't it.
They still they have I think she's sixteen or seventeen.
Now you can't. You can't make fun of her until
she's eighteen. Then you're allowed. I think technically you're allowed,
because then she's an adult. Then I think you're allowed.
And she's being her opinion is being foisted upon. She's
not a private citizen, she's not somebody who's just trying
to live her life. You know, we don't make fun

(01:09:03):
of private citizens who are just trying to go about
their business. But for now, it's Oh, she's a kid,
but we should all listen to her. It's one of
the more amazing, one of the more amazing disconnects that
I've seen among lives, and there's a lot of them.
Right we're talking about their disconnect with justice over the
general Flint case. They're disconnected over the double standard that

(01:09:23):
so slap you in the face obvious about this Joe
Biden situation versus Kavanaugh, and even some of what they
said about Trump, although to this day, what was what's
the credible People have always said that Trump sexually assaults people?
Liberals will say this, what's the credible sexual assault allegation?
Again from whom and in what circumstance? Oh, he said

(01:09:44):
that they let you grab. Okay, well, he's just talking
about being a celebrity who can be aggressive sexually with
women who let him do that. That's not sexual assault.
What exactly is the you know you hear this? It's
thrown around all there's you know all I've heard numbers,
two large numbers they say of women that say, oh, well,
it turns out that there isn't one, is there? But

(01:10:08):
the media reported on it. Oh there was that. The
one woman who wrote the book and then went on TV,
and everyone realized that she's emotionally unwell, and then they
dropped that right then, they dropped that situation pretty quickly.
But we keep seeing this the the double standards that
are really a necessity for liberalism in the current context

(01:10:29):
because it's so desperate for power all the time, Because
that really is the psychology and the magne collective emotion
and emotional and psychological state of contemporary liberalism is a
constant relativism in search of power and authority over others.
That's that's really what it is. That's if you if
you boil it down, if you take it at its core,

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and that means that there's going to be a lot
of double standard there's going to be a lot of
shifting goal posts, and we see a lot we see
that happening right now. Oh, we got my friend and
Porter Stansbury in the house. He's going to be joining
us here in just a moment to talk about what's
going to happen with the economy. Basically, Porter's gonna answer
the question for us. This is all he does is
look at this and try to make good investment ideas

(01:11:13):
for his for his subscribers. Where is the economy head
from here. Porter Stansbury will answer that one for us
in just a moment. Thanks for listening to The Bus
Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, the
iHeart Radio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, team,
we know the economy is in tough shape right now.

(01:11:34):
Let's putting it mildly, So I want to bring somebody
on who just looks at the economy and markets all
the time, has been doing so for decades, and actually
really knows what the heck he's talking about. We've got
mister Porter Stansbury with us, the founder of Stansbury Research,
which I write for. I've done a podcast with Porter
in the past. They've also sponsored some of our radio

(01:11:54):
radio spots. So Porter, great to have you on. Great
with you as always, Budd. All right, let's just start.
Were this thirty million roughly unemployed officially unemployed at this point,
that's that's pretty much where the number is. What is
going on right now at the US economy? And how
concerned are you about what's happening? I'm I think I'm
probably among the least concerned people who look at the

(01:12:19):
numbers and things, because you know, if you just look
at the numbers. I think you're really going to be
led astray. If we had had thirty million people unemployed
because there was a real estate bubble, or because there
was a collapse of industrial demand, or you know, a
trade war with China that had really spun out of control.

(01:12:40):
I think that's a far different circumstance than saying, hey,
guess what when nobody can go out to eat, When
nobody can go shopping, every single person who's employed in restaurants,
food service, or retail is going to lose their jobs.
And that's what's happened. So I think the more important question,
and the unknown question, is what will happen in six
months from now with that number. And if the answer

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is that number drops from thirty million to ten million,
I think our economy is going to be just fine.
If the answer is the FED keeps spending tons and
tons and tons of borrowed money and makes unemployment checks
very attractive and people don't want to go back to work,
then welcome to permanent socialism in America. And I think

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the bigger risk is that the bigger risk to me
is not economic. The bigger risk is political. What happens
in the future because of how much power the government
is exercising now and the role that it has taken
to play in the lives of millions and millions of citizens.
What about some of the major industries, and some industries

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really people think of as just either one company or
a handful of companies, or the airline industry, for example,
the aerospason defense sector with Boeing. What's going to happen
to those to those different sectors of the econom me
for which tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of jobs
are dependent. How do you see that playing out, certainly

(01:14:06):
over the next six months. You know, I'm in the
camp buck that that really sees the economy coming roaring back.
The steps that the government has taken in terms of
the amount of money they're pushing into the economy is
really incredible. I mean, there's this is a this is
going to end up being a multi trillion dollars stimulus package,

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and I know that that there will be enormous amounts
of pent up demand as a result. I mean, people
haven't been able to leave their homes now and more
than thirty days in my case, it's been about sixty days.
And you know, everyone's booking travel, everyone's making plans for
the summer in the fall. Everyone wants to get back
to life. And so I think that you're you know again,

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I really do believe that the economy will come back
very very quickly. I'm very bullish on the second half
of this year. And I think this is just an opinion.
I'm I'm obviously not a medical doctor, but I think
that the response to the virus has been what's caused
the bigger problem. Um, you know, it's not unusual for
sixty to eighty thousand people a year to die of

(01:15:13):
flu and pneumonia, So so you think this was I
think you think this was an overreaction for her. That's
I mean, from a policy standpoint, I think that's the
bigger story here. Frankly, I honestly believe, but that the
economy will be just fine. Uh. You know, when you
there's a I see there's a giant different tree and
hitting a pause button and seeing things like a real

(01:15:36):
decline in consumer demand or seeing a rise in bankruptcy
that was organic, you know, this is a very very
very different kind of recession that we're having. It's it's
not organic, it's not it's not basing economics. It's completely
a political problem. And I truly believe that when you
allow the politicians to run over the constitution and to

(01:15:59):
decide for every individual how much risk they should take
with their own health, you've lost something that's way more
important than money. You've lost liberty. You've lost freedom. And
again that's my concern. The government's going to print up
a ton of money. We're going to get through this
bump in the road. The economy is going to curboring back,
employment's going to surge in the third quarter of this year.
Those things are very obvious to me. What isn't obvious

(01:16:23):
is how long the government's going to going to accligate
dictatorship and when will, if ever, will the government admit
that a lot of the strategies that they have used
over the past two months were enormously expensive and completely
medically unnecessary. You know, there's been some great work that's
come out that shows how much more widespread the virus

(01:16:46):
has become, how many people didn't have any symptoms, and
what role obesity and other health problems have played, and
the fact that this virus is fatal in some cases.
But I bet you by the time I'm the data
comes in that we will discover that this coronavirus is
no different or more dangerous than any other coronavirus that

(01:17:09):
typically circulates among human beings. What was bad about it
was that nobody had any native immunity, and so a
whole lot of people got sick at the same time.
And yeah, that's a big problem. It is, But it
doesn't mean that I'm going to die if I leave
my house and catch this virus. If you're under the
age of fifty, if you're in reasonably good at health,

(01:17:29):
you really don't have any to worry about. So why
should the government tell me I can't leave my home?
It makes no sense. And who is a better Who
is a better judge of that, Me and my doctor
or the governor of my state. I mean, I think
the answer to so obvious that this is such an
unbelievable overreaction that I think is the bigger issue. Can

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our government ever really look back at these measures and
do a better job next time, Because my big concern
is is not that the economy can't come back. My
big concern is that there will be a change in
the political dynamics. There will be winners and losers from
these measures, and the people who are winners from these

(01:18:11):
measures are going to insist on taking them again. We've
already started to see, you've already started to see some
of the prominent Democrat politicians are letting it out that
they view this as an opportunity to change things dramatically
in this country, not just while the virus is out
there and to get us back on our feet, but
to change things for the foreseeable, to alter the course

(01:18:32):
of America economically and politically. I'm assuming you've you've seen
some of those early indicators too. Yeah, of course, And listen,
there's plenty of real world examples. There are plenty of
places that didn't shut down their economy. You know, there's Japan,
there's Singapore, there's Sweden, there's Iceland. There's plenty of places
that handle this in a different way. And we're not
going to see any additional mortality in those other places.

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We are not going to see that because this virus
is not fatal to one who's in relatively good health.
And if you look at the numbers of people who
have died, what percentage of them we're already in nursing homes.
It's like twenty five and you know, I'm sorry, but
those people were out the door anyways. They weren't going
to stay with us no matter what. They would have

(01:19:16):
died from a regular virus, they would have died from pneumonia.
They would have died because they're old and sick. And
that's tragic. But it doesn't it doesn't mean that we
should all give up our liberties and our businesses and
our and our our freedom. It makes no sense. Have
you been. And if they can do if they can
do this for a for a blue virus, then what

(01:19:37):
are they gonna What is going to trigger them to
do this next time? You know? Oh my gosh, there's
a risk of an earthquake. The scientists say an earthquake
is coming, No one leave their homes or whatever whatever
the next pretext will be. And one more thing about
about this. Think about the Battle of Britain. You know,
back in the spring of forty one and the fall

(01:20:00):
of nineteen forty, when you had Germans killing thousands of
people every week with bombs. Right, this is a real
threat to a country. Did the government of Great Britain
mandate that everyone live in their basements all day long
and not leaving the house because there was a real
risk if you're walking around in the street, you're gonna die.

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In fact, it's happening to thousands of people every day,
and it's not from a virus, it's from bombs. But
what do they what did they do? How did they
what happened in that situation? Everyone went to work, everyone
went out to dinner. Everyone ignored it because there was
nothing they could do about it except live their regular lives.
And that's what we should have done from the start.

(01:20:44):
And you know, if we had, then there would already
be her immunity. There's probably something between fifteen and thirty
percent of people in urban areas that have already gotten
as virus. You know, they're not gonna We're not gonnall die.
Let us go back to work. It's the biggest overreaction.
And so then the real question is why who was
winning politically by locking everyone in their homes? This is

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what I was going to ask you, So take that away.
Why do you think this has happened? I really can't fathom.
I just I think there are probably plenty of politicians
who were scared and we're afraid that if they didn't
do quote something, then if there was a bunch of
mortality associated with this pandemic, that they would be seen
in history as you know, uncaring fools. So I think

(01:21:29):
there's always the preset tendency is the government has to
do something to justify, you know, its existence, and so
they're probably going to error always on doing quote unquote something.
But how crazy is it that they would that they
would mandate this extreme reaction when they didn't even have data, like,

(01:21:52):
at the very least take a random sample of population,
understand what the viral impact has already been. And the
models were wrong, as we know now. But they tell
us that the models that were used to justify the shutdown,
it doesn't matter that they were wrong. That's that's the
latest theory that we're all supposed to live under. Porter,
I need, I need to take a quick pause here,
will come right back with you. I want to ask
about what should folks that are being hit economically right

(01:22:15):
now by this, what should they be thinking about? What
should they be doing? Founder of Stansbury Research, Porter Stansbury.
More with him when we come back in a second.
You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton
Show podcast Okay, we've got the founder of Stansbury Research,

(01:22:35):
the one and only mister Porter Stansbury with us. So, Porter,
you're you're bullish for the long term here for America.
You were saying before you think that we will be
able to bounce back, which I think is honestly really
encouraging to the people all across the country who are
listening to this. But I want to ask you though,
in the in the short term, for folks who are
either hurting badly economically or who want to get prepared, Well,

(01:22:58):
let's start with the folks who were hurting. What would
you do or how would you advise someone who's operating
a small business right now? Would you tell them I'm
trying to open as soon as possible, you know, how
can they try to prepare their finances and their economic
future given the uncertainty we're facing. Well, you know, I've
seen a lot of small business owners doing a lot
of very smart things. There are some folks, um you know,

(01:23:20):
I'm here today at my farm in Baltimore County, but
I also have a penthouse apartment downtown and walking around
downtown Baltimore, I was I was so happy to see
how many small bars and restaurants have basically set set
up outdoor gardens where people are congregating and enjoying food

(01:23:42):
and booze and socializing. Now they're you know, they might
be standing a little bit more further apart than they
ordinarily would. But there are a lot of business owners
have found ways to flow out the wall and the regulations.
And I'm, i'm, i'm, I think that's great. I'm I'm.
You know, my business, I wouldn't describe it as small,
but I think there's lots of entrepreneurial things that we

(01:24:03):
can do. For example, I'm making a T shirt that
says your mask and as an American flag on the back.
You know, the consumer demand is going to change relative
to where we are in this pandemic process. But anything
you can do to serve your customers, anything you can
do to find ways around the regulations, and then you

(01:24:26):
have to do And I think that the good business
owners have already done that. They've already they're way ahead
of us. But a guy I know in town who
makes custom clothing, nobody's ordering custom clothing right now because
no one's even going into the office. So he went
through his contacts in China and began making designer masks,
you know, and he's selling them like hot cakes. So
there's lots of there's lots of ways to stay in

(01:24:49):
business if you will be creative and if you will
meet the market demand where it is today. And what
do you say to our listeners right now who are
seeing where they're well, they're seeing where they're four oh
one k is and it's it's obviously for a lot
of folks down a bid from where it was a
few months ago. But this does bring up an interesting thing.
People are scared about what the market will do, but

(01:25:11):
port in the market hasn't really crashed the way that
if you had told somebody we had a pandemic or
everyone's locked at home, they would have guessed. I think.
I mean, it seems almost like the market is frozen
in place in some ways right now. What should people
be concerned or should they just ride it out? Well,
I don't know if you'll remember or not, but on
March twenty fourth, we had a conference, an online conference

(01:25:35):
for ours, for our clients, for our subscribers at Stansbury Research,
and I got with our analytical team and we put
together I believe it's forty different stocks to forty large
businesses that we said at that time, this is the
greatest opportunity in your lifetime. You'll have to buy these businesses,
and we recommend that you began buying them, even though

(01:25:56):
the market hasn't shown any sign of bottoming. Right at
that point that I was down almost forty percent, and
so that was a really dire time. Meanwhile, what I
saw was you can buy American Express at seven times earnings.
I saw you could buy Coola Cole with a four
percent dividend. Are these are opportunities that I had never
seen in my entire lifetime as a financial analyst. The

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ability to buy the world's best brands, the world's best
business models, the world's best products at forty percent off.
And you know, I'm not saying that the market wasn't
a little bit overvalued at the start of this crisis,
but it wasn't It wasn't, in my mind, m so
overvalued that you had to, you know, you should be
in cash. U So a forty percent decline from something

(01:26:42):
that's very likely to be a two or three quarter
impairment to earnings, that doesn't make any sense to me, Buck,
And so that's why I was telling people to buy,
and I think I think to a lesser extent, of course,
because now the market is rallied twenty five or thirty
percent from that from that point, but there are still
great opportunities for long term investors. Now. Look, I can't

(01:27:04):
tell you what the stock market's going to be a
month from now. I can't tell you what stock market
is going to be six months from now. But I
can tell you that this pandemic is not going to
wreck our economy. The risk is that it will wreck.
The risk to our economy is political, not financial. The
amount of liquidity and loans and money that's being pumped
into our economy is going to cause us to have

(01:27:26):
a very very strong recovery. And I would be willing
to bet you that twelve months from now there is
no impairment whatsoever to the earnings of any major, high
quality blueshift American company. That's very positive stuff. So that's
that's good to hear. How are you doing? Pour it
down there? Brother? How are you riding out this whole situation?
You said you've been in almost sixty days of quarantine.

(01:27:47):
How are you keeping busy? Well, you know, luckily there's
lots to do for my company. We all it's not
hard for us to work from home. We all have laptops.
We issue laptops to all of our employees in early
March February and anticipation that something like this might occur.
So we've been serving our clients just like we always do,
producing research, making recommendations following the results of the different

(01:28:11):
recommended businesses that we track and endorse. We've put out
a new portfolio to help investors, the Forever Portfolio that
I mentioned, forty stocks, and really the opportunity to buy
these businesses is very exciting for us. Obviously, this isn't
the way that we hoped that we'd be able to
serve our customers. We would have much rather the bollmarket
simply continue and for everyone to keep going to work.

(01:28:35):
But we met the market where it was, and so
luckily things for me have been very good. And I
have young children. I've got a twelve year old or
nine year old, and I've gotten to spend a lot
more time with them, which has actually been very enjoyable.
We bought a couple extra dirt bikes here for the farm,
so we've we've been teaching them how to write motorcycles.
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It looked like it looked like a like a like
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(01:29:17):
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It looked like a coyote. Was Yeah, I've never seen
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roll Call time. But first I want to tell I
want to tell you guys all something. You know what
I watched last night. I actually watched it with the
Snow Princess because she was in the movie. She's like,
can we watch? And I said, let's go for it.

(01:30:20):
We watched the original Jaws movie, which I kinda say,
it's just such a classic. It's great when you really
sit down and watch it. It's so well done. It
holds up, it moves really well. Because they used the
I think his name is Hank is what they called him,
the you know, animatronic shark instead of an have CGI,

(01:30:41):
so instead of a CGI shark. It just yeah, it
doesn't look that real, but it looks real enough. And
it's just much better the way they did it than
if they had tried some kind of graphic imposition of
a shark. So I as a producer, Mark, you've obviously
seen it, right, Yes, of course. I think it's one
of the great like cinematic classics of all time for

(01:31:02):
enjoyment purposes. I'm not saying that it should have won
all the Oscars or anything like that, but who cares
about that. But if you're just looking for a great
popcorn movie, I think it's fantastic. Yeah, And I'm very
upset at Universal for getting rid of the ride at
Universal Islands of Adventure, one of the one of the
parks down in Orlando. It's gone one of the best rides.
Had you Did you actually do that ride? Yeah? I did.
When I was a kid. I lived in Florida for

(01:31:23):
a period of time and we would go on school
trips up there. So that was really fun. And I
love the Jaws ride. It's really fun. Yeah, And you
know they do some there's some great stuff um that
they that they work into that script when they talk
about the Matawan Creek shark attacks of nineteen sixteen, I
think it is um. You know, there's a series of

(01:31:45):
shore was actually the Jerseys. Do you know about this?
Producer Mark? On the Jersey Shore and like I've heard
of it. Yeah, Well they talk about it in They
allude to it briefly in um in Jaws, and people
say that it's really the inspiration Mobe Dick. Obviously there's
a lot of parallels. People say with Moby Dick, katain
Ahab is actually that guy Quinn. But the idea of

(01:32:06):
a series of shark attacks shutting down a seaside community.
It happened in Loose nineteen sixteen or nineteen eighteen in
Manawan Creek, New Jersey. They had four people I think
it was, who were attacked, and I think they all
died in a period of a couple of days from
shark attacks, and like right near each other. So there

(01:32:26):
was a shark that was running wild, just eating people
all over the place. They still to this day they
think it might have been a bullshark because of the
brackish water, you know, the mixture of salt, salt water
and freshwater in this creek. And when you look at
the photos of the creek where people were attacked, it's
like a little river through a town. You would never
think that there was a man eating shark that could

(01:32:48):
in a million years be in there. So yeah, it's
pretty cool. Fun talk, yes, very fun talk. Good story yeah,
fun talk all right, roll call this Marks? Like Buck,
you talk enough? Why don't you let the people who
write in the kind people who take their time from
Team Buck to write in. Usually it's just uh Poosi.
Mark's great and he's so funny and yeah yeah yeah,
where do we go? Here we all? Here we go,

(01:33:09):
here we go. We have starting us off Terrence, Hey, Buck,
wishing the best from here in South Korea where you
are a morning show. Oh uh, I'm young Asia. I
think that's close to saying I think that's hello. So

(01:33:29):
I was pretty close. I remade a daily listen from
back on the Saturday Blaze days. I know there are
a lot of factors determining success in the COVID battle.
Not sure what the specific thing is that Korea is
doing right, but the results speak for themselves today shields
high Well, Terrence. First of all, it's great man to
have some oss here, and you're listening to me in
South Korea, so this is truly a global show, which

(01:33:50):
I appreciate, so thank you very much for that. And yeah,
as to what South Korea is doing right, I don't know.
I mean we're hearing that they are very high rates
of testing, but I just also think that they have
a tremendous amount of individual compliance in the society for
the mitigation measures that we can all take. We all
know this from cold season and flu season already. There

(01:34:12):
are things you can do to make respiratory diseases less
likely to spread. And if everybody does those things, it
really devotes themselves to those things. I think that the
government's actions become far less necessary, and it's also much
more likely that you be in a position to continue
to have your economy open. But that's just how that's

(01:34:32):
how I view it. That's my take on it. Terrence, Oh,
I'm sorry that was Terrence. Greg Hey Buck sounds like
you cook a lot of steak life hack. Melt some
butter with garlic and grated parmerjan into a sort of
sauce and pour it over your steak. You won't ever
regret it. Best thing ever, Well, Greg, that does sound amazing.
I will tell you something that I often do as

(01:34:53):
a finish when I'm cooking a good steak is I
will just you know, once you've seared and you've gotten
them meet the right temperature, put it in the pan,
preferably a cast iron obviously, because we're civilized here. We
use cast iron when we can on our meats. And
you use that cast iron pan and you you have
built in heat in the pan. Put it on really
low medium heat because there's already gonna be a lot

(01:35:15):
of heat in the pan, and you throw in some
herb that you have a time is a great option,
you know, a little time, maybe a little Parsley sage.
I love sage. I've been kind of a sage kick lately.
And then you throw in those herbs and then you
throw in a big pat of butter with it, and
it will effectively fry the herbs right there in real time.

(01:35:37):
And then you spoon that over the steak. So you
have an herbed butter that's melted in real time and
you just throw it over the steak and woo menu fique.
I would throw some grated parmesan into it. But for me,
I'm just gonna say it. I like where your head's at, Greg,
and I respect the game. That for me would be
if I were working with maybe a less excited cut

(01:36:00):
of meat, because I feel like the cheese would be
a little strong for me, and some people are gonna disagree.
They're gonna love that cheese on all their producer producer, Mark,
are you are you a melted parmesan on your steak? Guy?
There's no wrong answer here. It's not something I regularly do,
but I would definitely try it. It sounds delicious. I mean,
I'm sure it would taste good. But butter on the
steak is definitely the way go. Oh one hundred percent
the way to go. Yeah, you gotta I mean, if

(01:36:21):
you're already eating red meat, you you gotta go bigger,
go home. And that's when you got to use that.
And the herbed butters are very nice, and if you
have the time, there's a there's a there's a way
to take the butter. You know. You dice up your
herbs very very not not dice mince them, I think
it's the proper term. Or you cut them very finely,
and then you roll them in with some cold butter
and you put it in the fridge and you make

(01:36:43):
your herbed butter beforehand. That's a very nice way to
go to because then you take out that butter pat
and you put it on top of the steak when
it's still really hot. And which just melts into it.
It's wonderful. Um, I'm getting hungry. Peter Buck still listening
to work while protecting the grid and cat skill. Thank you, Peter,
frontline worker shields. I hope you, improucer Mark are doing well.
You ask when will the testing be enough to fully

(01:37:05):
open the country? November fifth, Well played, Peter. When they
hope Donald Trump is no longer the president, then the
cry will become we must open now because Trump held
up the economy and it's up to us, the Libs.
He didn't write that, but I'm saying it to save
the American people. Stay healthy and safe. Well, thank you,
Thank you so much, Peter. And yeah, I think you're

(01:37:27):
largely correct here. I share your analysis on this one.
So well done, Craig. I'm a podcast and occasional AM
one thousand KSOO listener. Wonderful. Thank you so much, Craig.
I hate the fact that the federal government human resources
terms of essential and non essential have now been forced

(01:37:48):
into our daily lexicon. I hated these terms while managing
Department of Army civilians during my career. If during an emergency,
a government employee is not needed for the functioning of
the organization, then why do they have a job? If
only essential work occurs during emergency situations, then what work
is being accomplished by the majority of them most of
the time. Now, the state is using these unfair and

(01:38:09):
illogical terms to divide the public sector. All jobs and
businesses in the economy are essential and needed for this
great nation to work. If we want to get these
shut down over quicker shutdowns over quicker, furlough all non
essential government workers and not allow them to work from
home and earn a paycheck, as is happening for many
in the economy. Since the majority of federal civilian workforce

(01:38:30):
is classified as non essential, the outcry within the federal
government would be deafening and one that politicians could not ignore.
Keep up the good fight, Craig, excellent, excellent note. And
I think you're right if you had people who work
for the government who were no longer drawing a paycheck
and we're not able to work from home, if they
were furloughed, any non essential government employees instead of getting

(01:38:52):
paid because right now, my understanding is they're paid to
be home and work from home. But if you're non essential,
why are you getting paid to work? From home as
a govern employee. Craig is asking, it's an interesting point,
isn't it. And it would put so much pressure, especially
for state and municipal employees. Think about how annoyed they
would get with this circumstance very quickly. It would change, folks.

(01:39:13):
This is really a lot of this is about pressure
points in the separation of those who are still getting
paid and those who are not. And it is a
very meaningful difference whether or not you are getting paid
right now. There's just no way around it. It does
matter to people's perceptions of how serious this is, how
severe this is. And there are way too many people

(01:39:36):
out there, I think, who are allowed voices on this issue,
who just think that there's not really a massive cost
or consequence to continuing as we are because it hasn't
been that consequential for them yet, although eventually it will
be consequential for everybody, especially in the private sector and
the public sector. It takes longer because they just rely
on the government to pay them with the printed money.

(01:39:58):
But for people that have to actually be reductive. We
will see sooner than later what the real consequences of
this can be. Uh and a lot of us are
already feeling it. Um. You know we we are feeling
it in media. I can tell you that at least
some of us are. It's this is not fun um
financially speaking. I mean, I can't get into details, but
this is not a not a good time for for

(01:40:20):
media in general, but more specifically, you know, conservative media,
because we run so much on on ads and on
economic activity. You know, this show only works because you
guys all try out our sponsors. Well, people are buying
less stuff. Uh that that hurts the economic model of
of all talk radio, of all the different platforms out there.
So you know, yeah, I'm still working, but it's it's

(01:40:43):
tough out there, folks. It's tough for us too. Don't
think it's not. You're in the freedom hud. This is
the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right, more roll call here,
Tim rites Buck Penn should a mask at all times.
He is our only buffer between us and insanity. If

(01:41:05):
something were to happen to Trump, President Pelosi makes me
ill to even type it. Well, Tim, I appreciate that
you want to keep are very esteemed and really really
an exceptional person. Our vice president's a good guy. I
appreciate that you want to keep him, you know, keep

(01:41:25):
him as healthy as possible. I certainly agree with that.
I think I think the Vice president, given who he's
around and what he's dealing with every day, probably has
a pretty darn good sense of what is necessary for
keeping him healthy and safe into the game. But I
hear you on that we need Pence staying strong, stay
and healthy. And the same thing with our president, man Trump,

(01:41:45):
is this guy is going through hell right now as president.
I mean you can only imagine when from things that
were in his control, we're going so well, you know,
the economy was so strong. You gotta understand, this is
his life work, right, This is his the crowning achievement
of this guy's entire career, which has been a pretty

(01:42:06):
remarkable one at that. And he's doing such a good
job and then this happens. I mean, this is like,
you know, you're you're showing up to you're showing up
to sign the deal of a lifetime and you get
struck by lightning on the way and he's just like,
how does this happen? Man? This is terrible. So he's
obviously very tired, and I think he's particularly grumpy during

(01:42:28):
some of those press conferences, which I I can't understand.
I can't understand that. But he's particularly tired and grumpy
during the press conferences, and I get it, you know,
I can only imagine how challenging that is. But Trump's
staying healthy during all this is so important too, obviously
keeping him free of COVID nineteen, but just also not
getting run down with other health issues. I mean, the

(01:42:49):
guy's going through It's it's tough right now. Think of
the weight that he carries on his shoulders every day,
and all the all the libs like a bunch of
hyenas lurking in the background, just waiting to pounce on
a mistake that he makes. Michael right, Daily listener, love
your insight, keep up the good work. We are listening
in texarcanat Texas. Oh Michael, thank you so much and

(01:43:10):
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I work for my crew. We build aircraft parts, and
the future is bleak. You and Mark stay safe there
at ground zero and keep your shield high. We'll be

(01:43:54):
listening and keeping my powder dry. You stay safe well, Gyle.
I'm sorry to hear about the slowdown in your work,
but man, aircraft parts, this will will come back. It's
gonna come back. It's just gonna take some time. But
I know that right now, right now, that's not really
a whole lot of comfort. Given then you got bills
to pay and a family to take care of. And
I know it's tough. I mean, Boeing is looking at
huge layoffs from what I understand, I mean, the airline industry.

(01:44:17):
How's that going to come back? It's gonna come. You
know how it comes back. And be honest with you,
it's when people feel like, you know what, I gotta
fly and I'm gonna go. Maybe I wear a surgical
mask on the plane. But I'm gonna fly, and I'm
gonna take that risk, and I think it's important, and
I'm healthy enough that I can handle this. And then
once that mentality becomes widespread, then I think you'll start
to see the airline industry maker will come back. Jake, right,

(01:44:40):
it's good, Hey, Buckman, at your recommendation. I recently read
The Guns of August, which led me to read a
few other books about World War One. The scale and
misery and loss of life from that war is just staggering,
But compared to our societal expectations today, it is clear
that the acceptance of necessary risk in those days was
orders of magnitude higher. Too high, one could argue, I

(01:45:01):
could go on, but to sum it up, I think
our society and government are showing themselves to be excessively
risk averse. Perhaps paradoxically, we have become fatally risk averse. Well, Jake,
first of all, I'm glad you're enjoying The Guns of August.
It's a great read, and it's a sort of a
timeless overview of the or the opening i should say,
of the First World War, the opening month of the

(01:45:24):
First World War, in particular, of the actual conflict. And
as for your fatally risk averse comment, it reminds me
of Professor Unitis from the University of Stour Stanford University,
who was saying that we're becoming like an elephant that
trying to escape a mouse falls off a cliff. That's

(01:45:46):
a similar idea to what you're talking about here. And
he's an epidemiologist and esteemed one who's saying that we're
acting like this is a bigger threat for us than
it really is. So there you have it, my cool Buck,
I usually jump at the vote, A jump at the
chance to vote for a libertarian. So will I vote

(01:46:07):
for Justin Amash? No, absolutely not. After how he's been
acting in the past couple of years, I wouldn't vote
for him to be my congressman either. Shields High. Yeah.
I don't know what happened to Himash, but he went
over to the he went over to the bad guy team,
and it's a shame to see that happen. But I
think it's I think it's where we are, my friend,
I'm not impressed, as putting him mildly, that's my impression

(01:46:30):
of how he's doing. Terry writes, Hey, Buck, why don't
the Libs call the President's daily COVID nineteen briefing stupid
but not Governor Cuomos, I think I know the answer. Well, Terry,
you do know the answer. It's politics. There's nothing behind
it other than that. It's a shame that the Libs
will not put aside their political gripes during this very

(01:46:51):
difficult time where we all really should be banning together
and counting on each other to make decisions that are
best for the country. But liberalism is a question in
the era of Trump is a disorder. That's it for today, Folks,
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