February 4, 2026 • 31 mins
In the final hour, Sean Hannity is joined by crime expert Nancy Grace for an in-depth analysis of the disturbing disappearance of Savannah Guthrie’s 84-year-old mother. Nancy breaks down the forensic evidence, ransom communications, and investigative signals that suggest the case may involve a coordinated kidnapping. The conversation expands into a broader examination of America’s crime crisis, victim advocacy, and why high-profile cases should remind us that crime spares no one. This powerful hour blends expert insight, personal testimony, and a call to refocus national attention on every victim.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Up information overload. Our eight hundred and nine four one,
Shawn is a number if you want to be a
part of the program. The national interest in the case
of Savannah Guthrie of the Today Show and the abduction
of her eighty four year old mother, and we're trying
to piece together what may have happened. And I will
say that people's attention to this is very, very helpful
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to law enforcement and a little bit of public pressure does.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Often go a long way.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We've invited our friend Nancy Grace to be on the
program to analyze all of this. She has become the
premier expert, frankly, on the issue of crime in the country,
based you know, out of her own experience and tragedy
that she just went into, which you know, honestly, Nancy,
bringing tears to my eyes, all the pain that you've
been through in your life. I just hate that for you.
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On the other hand, I'm I'm happy you've come out
of this on the other side and helped so many
different people in these situations. And you have a beautiful,
you know, daughter, a husband you love, a husband that's
great about you, and it's amazing the resiliency you have
shown in life.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And I think you're a great example for.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
All of us going back to this case, everything that
you put together. Hold on, hold on, did I mess up?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You mentioned my husband, You left out my big boy.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Oh yeah, I didn't mean to forget your son, who's
a great kid, by the ways.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I didn't mean to do that.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Six growing And I'm flying back as fast as I
can put the pedal to the metal to get his
soccer game tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And well, that's important because the soccer means everything sports
me and everything for kids. I spent every weekend of
my kids growing up beers at tennis tournaments, and they
both became D one athletes. But let's go back to
Savannah and this case, and what does frustrate me, Nancy?
And this is separate in a part, and I want
to make sure I draw a very clear line of
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delineation here. What frustrates me is in the month of
January in Chokon, over one hundred and thirty some odd
people shot, you know, nearly thirty of them dead. Nobody
knows their names. You know, all the people that ICE
has arrested, murderers, known terrorists, rapists, child molesters, And I
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know people may have issue with some of their tactics,
et cetera. Okay, that's fair game. However, they never get
any credit for the good work they're doing. I mean,
tens of thousands of people have been deported because they
put their lives on the line for us, and I
want attention to all lives, you know, being given equal
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measure here. But with that said, you know we're talking
specifically about Savannah, her mom, Nancy eighty four, bad health
and the information we have right now. What does your
gut tell you? Because my gut's telling me ransom famous
wealthy person. You know, it's very common in countries like Mexico,
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countries in Latin America all the time. I hope it's
not going to be coming to a city near you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well here's a shocker. People always say, why this case
and not that case? FYI? I cover missing people every
single day on Crime Stories and Crime online dot com
every single day. When there is a case like this
that attracts national attention, it teaches us something like the
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Lake and Riley case, the beautiful nursing student that was
murdered at the UGA campus by an illegal alien with
a criminal history. Look, I'm irish I'm a mutt somewhere
way back when somebody was allowed to come to this
country and make something of themselves, and they did, and
I'm for that. I am not for criminals in our country.
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Praying on our American citizens and visitors. That case made
a statement like this case is making a statement.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Hungary twelve years old, Nancy brutally raped and murdered, and
Democrats wouldn't even stand when the President recognized their families.
I'm like, at that moment, I felt like they lost
their heart, their soul, and their.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Conscience and her body left in kind of a buy
you terrible situation, this little girl. But you know what,
I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. I am an
American and I do not like victs being preyed upon.
That said, when there was a high profile case like
Nancy Guffries, it brings attention to the fact that crime
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knows no boundaries. You can be rich, you can be poor,
you can be white, you can be black, you can
be Hispanic, you can be a woman, you can be
a child, doesn't matter. And one it says to me
is that this eighty four year old lady minding her
own business coming home from a church hot look, for
Pete's sake, can be victimized by animal What about us
(05:02):
regular people? What about the regular person like my family?
What about then? We don't have a chance. So what
I'm saying is, I want these a holes brought in.
Number one, I want Nancy alive. But number two, there
is nowhere to hide. Once we get a hold of you, man,
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and it is a man, I guarantee you this is.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
What makes you so special, because I mean, your whole
heart and soul is invested in this, and it's infectious.
And I hope people we have a very big audience
in Arizona and in Tucson and in Phoenix and all
over the country, and I want everybody to get a
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good look at the picture of Nancy, and hopefully they
can give you know, maybe a sighting occurs, something happens
that can tip off law enforcement, so they can you know,
find this woman, get her home to safety because she's
in ill health.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And you know, some neighbor came out and went, hey,
I went by her a place at six forty five am,
and nothing was happening to suggest it happened. After six
forty five, No, it was all over it was over
by six forty five. I believe that's why they didn't
see anything. So I'm really thinking it was in the
early morning hours. From other information I've obtained that has
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not gone to air yet, I think it was in
the early early morning hours. I think there's a chance
she could still be alive. You want a ransom, you
may have to show proof of life. Hello, if this
were just a rape or a robbery or a chilling,
she would have been found in that home that did
not happen. They've got her, and if they want any money,
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they'd better keep her alive.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Let me ask you, and this is a tough question,
but you're the only one that I can think to
ask this question of. Is it in a circumstance like this?
I mean, if you have money or access to money,
is it better to make it available and pay.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
If it were me, I would pay because I would.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Want my I would pay. I would pay too my child.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Hell Y.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And I know that's the wrong answer that the person back.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I know I never get the perp, but if I
could just get my child or my husband or my mother, yes,
I give whatever I've got.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Now, do you work with law enforcement on that I
think you have to, right. I mean, we have professional
I mean, this is all they do. They're hostage negotiators
that they deal in it. We have it experts out.
The Yaozoo artificial intelligence is real. I'm hopeful that technology
is going to lead us to the person responsible for this,
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and it does give me hope that we keep advancing technologically,
that they may have tools that they didn't have five
years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Oh. Absolutely. I keep wondering about the cell tower, Sean,
because they can isolate who was in that neighborhood basically
on that streak for Pete's sake, between let's just say
nine forty five and a PM and eleven am, and
then then narrow it down and see what numbers are
still in the area that would rule out neighbors and
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what numbers have left the area. I mean, it takes
a lot of manpower and apparently there are about one
hundred detectives there the FBI, and again, alas been said
about recent suspects, I'd be I find it very difficult
to believe there's a suspect now and they haven't nabbed him. Okay,
So that said, a lot is happening that they've renewed
(08:39):
to search. There are helicopters back out, there's the extensive
ground search going on right now. It had earlier been
reported it had been called off. I think it had
been called off for that day or for a twenty
four hour period. They're back out there, and that's very
heartening to me. That means they think they've got a
chance finding something.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I've recently watched a documentary on the Elizabeth Smart case
and I did cover that at the time, and I
got to know Ed Smart, and I remember when they
were very suspicious of the family. It was never the family,
and it ended up being some handyman that had done
some work at the house and they never thought of it.
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It was only when the younger sister who was in
the room when Elizabeth was abducted, that find that she just,
you know, that memory came back to her. I'm sure
she was traumatized too. She was a young girl and
that is what led them to this lunatic that had
taken her hostage. And thank god, she came back alive.
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I'm sure her life is never going to be the same,
but at least they found her alive.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
At least she was found alive. She is an amazing
example of fortitude. But they have survived and they're an inspiration,
all of them, the whole family.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, they really are. You're a national treasure, Nancy Grace.
I believe we have you on Hannity tonight. We look
forward to having you. The work you do. You're doing
God's work, and out of the ashes of personal tragedy,
you have turned that into something so good and helpful
for so many And I just admire you that much.
(10:22):
I'm very grateful that you come on the program, and honestly,
I trust you, but about as much, if not more
than the police of cracking this.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I got carried the whole way through it all, and
you know, I was being carried on Christ's back the
whole way through. And now I have this awesome family. No,
life is never the same. It is never the same.
There's no such thing as closure. But you can keep going,
you can severe.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You're a survivor, you're a fighter, and you're doing a
lot of good for a lot of people. And I
know that your attention to this matter means a lot
to a lot of us. Nancy, We love you, appreciate you.
We'll see you tonight. Thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
See you tonight.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
My friend eight nine four.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
One, Shawn is on number if you want to be
a part of the program. All right, let's get to
our busy phones. Let's say hi to well an angel
brother out of Texas is calling. Has lost his sister.
Apparently you're a cartel member. I assume you don't want
to give your name, so we won't give you one.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Hey, Sean, you made my day. I cherished this moment
being able to talk to you. Yes, I am my family.
We had that happen and it happened over ten years ago.
It was an unsolved homicide, but we know what happened
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because there was a survivor that he had and he
lived to tell the story to my family. And the
word is is that he got on a plane next
day and flew back to Columbia. And uh, you know what,
when this these things happened to a family, it's a
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big eye opener. And as a you're wonderful, graceful lady,
guests just said that it stays with you forever. But
Texas is turning into hell. I just got to tell
you there's so much crime, and it is illegal immigration
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and displaced people. And my view on it is that
when when somebody is in a country illegally, it may
not be true, but they have the they have the
mindset that they're invisible and and that they're undetectable, so
they are more likely to get involved in crime of
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all different types. And uh, I've just lived it. I've
seen so much of it through the years. It's just
you know, I'm sharing this story with This is.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
What frustrates me.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I mean, you have all of these known terrorists and
murderers and rapists and child molesters, drug dealers that have
been bravely arrested by Ice. They have put their lives
on the line, and now they're being called the Gestapa
and Nazis and fascist. Now they're trying to keep people
safe and secure. And all of this caused by liberal
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Democrats that had wide open borders. And it's just infuriating
me because people like you and Nancy Gray should not
have to live through the hell you live through because
we're allowing people unvetted into this country. And like what
Nancy said, I support immigration, but legal immigration that includes
a background check to make sure you don't have radical associations,
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a health check and to make sure that financially you're
not going to be a burden on the American people.
It's not complicated and it's not burden some And the
Save Act is about not letting illegals impact our elections
by voting. All of this needs to be rectified if
we're going to have a country, Reagan said, a country
without borders will not survive. Well, not going to be
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a country unless we know who's coming into this country.
And if you want to know how bad illegal immigration
can get, you know, look at Great Britain with their
eighty eighty five Sharia courts. Look at no go zones
in Europe, look at you know, you know, unfettered illegal
immigration without assimilation, and that will be America. Everyone needs
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a gut check. We have got to keep criminals out
of our country. I'm so sorry what happened to you
and your family. I do appreciate your call. Eight hundred
and nine one Shaw is a number if you want
to be a part of the program. Expot the radio
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show the mainstream media love State.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
This is the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
By twenty five now till the top of the hour.
Eight hundred ninety four one Shawn our number. If you
want to be a part of the program. You know,
I have to talking to Nancy Grace. I hear John
and Rossic of five for fighting in the background. Put
this music up. It's like you need it just feels
like the moment, doesn't. It just kind of wish that
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there would be a superman that emerges that can save
these lives and that we wouldn't be living through an
insane period of time where the people that are actually
putting their lives on the line and arresting murderers, known terrorists, rapists,
child molesters, they're demonized with regularity as being Gestapo and Nazis,
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and it just continues all for political purposes.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
They don't care about people. They cared.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
If Democrats cared about people, they would have fixed what
we've been covering for twenty plus years. All of the
people shot and shot and killed in Chicago. They don't
lift a finger to fix it. They don't care. If
they cared, they'd fix it. But they can't weaponize it,
they can't politicize it, so why bother. You know, the
same people that would applaud the courage of ICE agents
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and not be inciting and dehumanizing the very people that
are risking their lives to arrest them. They wouldn't do it,
and trust me, I'm not. What's happening with Savannah Guthrie's
mom is awful. I mean, there are countries that deal
with with kidnappings and ransom pretty much on a daily basis.
(17:28):
And you know, I know people that live in Mexico
for example. I mean, remember how bad it was getting
at one point. Linda in Mexico was awful. The cartels.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
It's not much that.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
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All right, let's get to our busy phones. Let us
say hi to Tim and Iowa, Tim, Hi, how are
you glad you called?
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Sean? Thanks.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I was just thinking the other day and I did
not watch the Grammys. I have no intention of watching
those kind of shows. I'm not interested in what they're
going to say. Most of the entertainment isn't really that
much entertaining. But I got to hear all the commentary afterwards,
and one of the things that came up was everybody
wearing the pins and all the pins, and I had
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to think, there's got to be a way we can
counter that, that we can claim that high ground on them.
They want to be ice out, Why don't we get
something like angel tens and everybody were angels? To think
of all the families that have lost loved ones and
the people that have been killed by illegals, and it's
just a quiet thing. And if they want to be
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upset about us wearing an angel, let them listen.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm all in favor of all of it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And I will tell you this issue really needs to
get into the consciousness of our nation. We need to understand.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I go back and I keep repeating myself, but there's
a tipping point moment in this whole discussion when Lake
and Riley's family and Joscelyn Hungary's family was introduced a
year ago when Donald Trump just got back into office
and he gave us session joint Session speech before Congress,
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and they would not stand for the families of Lake
and Riley or Joscelyn Hungary. If you can't stand for
families that lost their loved ones because of unvetted Biden, Harris,
mayorcis illegals that all Democrats either lied about and said
wasn't happening, or they just sat quietly and were complicit
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and let it happen. Then I'm telling you don't have
a heart, a conscience, or a soul. What Biden did
and what Harris did and Mayorcus did is the single
greatest preventable national security disaster in the history of our country,
no other way to put it. And they didn't care.
And they're still to this day protecting this madness that
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they have inflicted on this country.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
With all the talk about.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Ice, ice, ice, ice, ice, ICE is out there doing
their job. They're all risking their lives. I'm not saying
every situation has been perfect. I'll never say that you're
going to have. You know, human beings are imperfect and
there's always room for improvement. I'm willing to have constructive criticism, dialogue,
discussion about any of it. A overwhelming number of hundreds
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of thousands of people, real criminals they have deported, has
made our country more safe and more secure. The alternative
is to do nothing what the Democrats want to do,
what Chuck Schumer says he wants to do, and reward
people for not respecting our laws, borders, and sovereignty. That's
not an option for me. And it's a disgrace that
this is what this party now wants to run on.
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Disgrace that they want to shut the government down over it.
Disgrace They want to dismantle and defund and you know,
reimagine the police and then you know any you know,
no cash bail, all this insanity. And if this does
not motivate you to get off your ass and vote
this midterm election year, I don't know what will. Because
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everything is on the line, all Trump progress will stop
and we will be in full twenty four to seven
investigative mode, impeachment mode, and none of it will be
good for the country. But that's where they want to
take us. It's about power. It's chilling. I like your
idea anyway. Good call eight hundred and nine four one.
Shawn is on number Dennis in Long Island, New York.
(23:13):
What's up, Dennis?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Where do you live in? Long Island?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Farmingdale, Long Island.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Oh, Farmingdale? Well, very well. Yeah, there's a white castle
on Route one ten. Used to go go there every
time I passed it. I couldn't not I couldn't pass
by without stopping.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah, you might've been ahead of me in the line
way back when.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Either ahead or behind, it doesn't matter. I still got
my my belly buster.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I've come from you know, my mom raised me in
a broken home, and I used to have She used
to have the the white Castle frozen in the freezer
so they could sit there.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And they're actually not bad. I can get them down
here in Florida. They're not bad.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Usually when you get something frozen, it's never as good.
But if you do it the right way and you
don't put it in the microwave, you can actually make
them taste almost as good as coming right out of
a white castle.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Almost. I'll take you what on that you were discussing disgraceful.
I mean, you're just saying disgraceful with these Democrats. You know,
obviously New York I got to deal with Schumer, Jeffries,
you know, making us look terrible. I think it's all
about power, because the Save Act makes so much sense,
you know, it's logical. But I don't want to give
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up their power. And you know, if they did, if
Congress just gets I mean, if the Senate just gets
you know, you know, hey, let's band together here, you know,
soon and McConnell, let's go. If they put this together,
the Save Act, you'll who knows, New York might even
be your red state. I mean, for crying out loud,
I pay the highest taxes, one of the highest taxes
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in the country, and my vote doesn't count every year,
it just doesn't count. And it's very frustrating, just so frustrating.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Bruce Blakeman would be an amazing governor for the state
of New York. Yes, math does not work in his favor, unfortunately,
Now am I am I still going to support them?
Of course, I'm going to support Bruce. He's done a
great job in Nassau County. He would do a great
job for the state. He could save the state. But unfortunately,
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you know, a lot of people like me left New
York and all these private equity companies, all these big banks,
all these financial firms on Wall Street, they have packed
up and they have left, and most of them have
like small remaining offices for their New York customers. The
rest of them Wall Street South, they moved to Texas,
(25:42):
they moved to the Carolina As, they moved to Tennessee.
They're out, they're done. But Wall Street South in South
Florida is real.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Yeah, my brother actually was smart enough thirty years ago
to leave and he did thirty one years, thirty years
on the job Fort Laudaville City Police and as being
disgruntled with all this, with the with the vote.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Let me tell you right now, let me guess your
brother's pretty wealthy because he bought a home thirty years
ago and that home is worth fifteen times what he
paid for it, if not more.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I mean, I call him, you know, you know, Gilligan
and skipper because he's got a vote, and you know
he hates the beach. But yet he went down to
Fort Laudaville and become a cop. You know, he was
smart I stayed up here and became a teacher in
New York City. So now you know what I'm dealing
with with my socialist boss.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well, well are you almost done? When you're done, get
out of there. You know, my accountants used to say
to me every year, whatever you do, don't die in
New York.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I'd look at him. I'm like, okay, I'll talk to
God about that.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yeah, I'm fifty three.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'm almost there.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
And then I'm heading my wife's like South Carolina or Florida.
I'm like, I don't care. Let me just get out
of here. And you know what, I'll even give up
being a Jet fan, you know, because my season's done
in October, so you know, I.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's done in September usually, but who's counting exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You bet man, appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Dennis eight hundred and nine foot one. Shawn is on
number if you want to be a part of the
program Casey San Diego Coco Radio. What's up, Casey? How
are you?
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
San?
Speaker 7 (27:22):
Thank you so much for speaking truth for all these
years when a lot of people didn't have the courage too.
It's really refreshing because you hear so much on other
stations and on the mainstream media, you just can't trust
it anymore. And it's so we're leaving having you do
that for the United States and for the world to hear.
So thank you for that, and then yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
So yeah, about what we were talking about with crime,
A lot of it is crime that I'm noticing. It's
all You've seen a lot of it in South America
and other parts of the world. And when I saw
my stomach dropped when I saw the borders wide open
like that, And every time I would turn on the TV,
I was just like, oh, my gosh. Because I helped
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a lot of military veterans do mental health work for
them and they were, you know, exposed to a lot
of stuff that isis used to do the women and children,
and I would listen to detailed stories as part of
the therapy and just not knowing and just also knowing
military people who are here, who may wonder, hey, when
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there was unmanned bordered, how many of those people can
you know would get in that might harm them too.
So it's just left it just kind of made my
stomach drop, you know, I'm all for you know, immigration,
people coming wanting a better life. But unfortunately, I feel
like there's a bigger slice of the pie of people
who just want to come in here with ulterior motives.
(28:48):
And that's why the idea of like having citizenship is
so important because it gives like a focus, Like if
you do any kind of study, you have to know
what you're focusing on, because otherwise it gets lost. So
if people are coming in, they take no oath to
be part of this country, They don't have plants to
(29:09):
integrate in it or to grow the country. They're coming
in without knowing the laws or rules that apply in
this country, and so basically they're taking wherever they're coming
from and they're like putting their spin of wherever they're
from onto our rules and it doesn't even line up.
(29:30):
It's like they have no idea the history, you know,
the sacrifice that was done, you know, to build this country.
I mean, that's why it's kind of a slap in
the face, like when you see them just taking because
they think they're taking from our government, but they don't
understand that we are the government.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And that's well, the problem is you have elected officials
that are just giving and giving and giving your money
and services away. And it's in the hundreds of billions
of dollars nationwide. I mean it's insane. Yeah, you raise
great points, and it's really bad where you are. I've
been down to the border in San Diego where you are.
(30:08):
I've been all the way across you know, the southern
part of the US, where you know, from the Rio
grand to San Diego, and it is you know, it's
never been as bad than it was under Biden. And
he's made all of us vulnerable. And it's costing us
a fortune. Your state can balance a budget because of
all those services you're offering illegals. Right, got to run, Casey,
(30:31):
I appreciate you being one of us. Eight hundred nine
point one Shaw is on number. That's gonna wrap things
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Up information overload. Our eight hundred and nine four one,
Shawn is a number if you want to be a
part of the program. The national interest in the case
of Savannah Guthrie of the Today Show and the abduction
of her eighty four year old mother, and we're trying
to piece together what may have happened. And I will
say that people's attention to this is very, very helpful
(00:20):
to law enforcement and a little bit of public pressure does.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Often go a long way.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
We've invited our friend Nancy Grace to be on the
program to analyze all of this. She has become the
premier expert, frankly, on the issue of crime in the country,
based you know, out of her own experience and tragedy
that she just went into, which you know, honestly, Nancy,
bringing tears to my eyes, all the pain that you've
been through in your life. I just hate that for you.
(00:48):
On the other hand, I'm I'm happy you've come out
of this on the other side and helped so many
different people in these situations. And you have a beautiful,
you know, daughter, a husband you love, a husband that's
great about you, and it's amazing the resiliency you have
shown in life.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And I think you're a great example for.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
All of us going back to this case, everything that
you put together. Hold on, hold on, did I mess up?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You mentioned my husband, You left out my big boy.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Oh yeah, I didn't mean to forget your son, who's
a great kid, by the ways.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I didn't mean to do that.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Six growing And I'm flying back as fast as I
can put the pedal to the metal to get his
soccer game tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And well, that's important because the soccer means everything sports
me and everything for kids. I spent every weekend of
my kids growing up beers at tennis tournaments, and they
both became D one athletes. But let's go back to
Savannah and this case, and what does frustrate me, Nancy?
And this is separate in a part, and I want
to make sure I draw a very clear line of
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delineation here. What frustrates me is in the month of
January in Chokon, over one hundred and thirty some odd
people shot, you know, nearly thirty of them dead. Nobody
knows their names. You know, all the people that ICE
has arrested, murderers, known terrorists, rapists, child molesters, And I
(02:16):
know people may have issue with some of their tactics,
et cetera. Okay, that's fair game. However, they never get
any credit for the good work they're doing. I mean,
tens of thousands of people have been deported because they
put their lives on the line for us, and I
want attention to all lives, you know, being given equal
(02:36):
measure here. But with that said, you know we're talking
specifically about Savannah, her mom, Nancy eighty four, bad health
and the information we have right now. What does your
gut tell you? Because my gut's telling me ransom famous
wealthy person. You know, it's very common in countries like Mexico,
(02:58):
countries in Latin America all the time. I hope it's
not going to be coming to a city near you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well here's a shocker. People always say, why this case
and not that case? FYI? I cover missing people every
single day on Crime Stories and Crime online dot com
every single day. When there is a case like this
that attracts national attention, it teaches us something like the
(03:26):
Lake and Riley case, the beautiful nursing student that was
murdered at the UGA campus by an illegal alien with
a criminal history. Look, I'm irish I'm a mutt somewhere
way back when somebody was allowed to come to this
country and make something of themselves, and they did, and
I'm for that. I am not for criminals in our country.
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Praying on our American citizens and visitors. That case made
a statement like this case is making a statement.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Hungary twelve years old, Nancy brutally raped and murdered, and
Democrats wouldn't even stand when the President recognized their families.
I'm like, at that moment, I felt like they lost
their heart, their soul, and their.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Conscience and her body left in kind of a buy
you terrible situation, this little girl. But you know what,
I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. I am an
American and I do not like victs being preyed upon.
That said, when there was a high profile case like
Nancy Guffries, it brings attention to the fact that crime
(04:37):
knows no boundaries. You can be rich, you can be poor,
you can be white, you can be black, you can
be Hispanic, you can be a woman, you can be
a child, doesn't matter. And one it says to me
is that this eighty four year old lady minding her
own business coming home from a church hot look, for
Pete's sake, can be victimized by animal What about us
(05:02):
regular people? What about the regular person like my family?
What about then? We don't have a chance. So what
I'm saying is, I want these a holes brought in.
Number one, I want Nancy alive. But number two, there
is nowhere to hide. Once we get a hold of you, man,
(05:23):
and it is a man, I guarantee you this is.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
What makes you so special, because I mean, your whole
heart and soul is invested in this, and it's infectious.
And I hope people we have a very big audience
in Arizona and in Tucson and in Phoenix and all
over the country, and I want everybody to get a
(05:47):
good look at the picture of Nancy, and hopefully they
can give you know, maybe a sighting occurs, something happens
that can tip off law enforcement, so they can you know,
find this woman, get her home to safety because she's
in ill health.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And you know, some neighbor came out and went, hey,
I went by her a place at six forty five am,
and nothing was happening to suggest it happened. After six
forty five, No, it was all over it was over
by six forty five. I believe that's why they didn't
see anything. So I'm really thinking it was in the
early morning hours. From other information I've obtained that has
(06:23):
not gone to air yet, I think it was in
the early early morning hours. I think there's a chance
she could still be alive. You want a ransom, you
may have to show proof of life. Hello, if this
were just a rape or a robbery or a chilling,
she would have been found in that home that did
not happen. They've got her, and if they want any money,
(06:44):
they'd better keep her alive.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Let me ask you, and this is a tough question,
but you're the only one that I can think to
ask this question of. Is it in a circumstance like this?
I mean, if you have money or access to money,
is it better to make it available and pay.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
If it were me, I would pay because I would.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Want my I would pay. I would pay too my child.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Hell Y.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And I know that's the wrong answer that the person back.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I know I never get the perp, but if I
could just get my child or my husband or my mother, yes,
I give whatever I've got.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Now, do you work with law enforcement on that I
think you have to, right. I mean, we have professional
I mean, this is all they do. They're hostage negotiators
that they deal in it. We have it experts out.
The Yaozoo artificial intelligence is real. I'm hopeful that technology
is going to lead us to the person responsible for this,
(07:47):
and it does give me hope that we keep advancing technologically,
that they may have tools that they didn't have five
years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Oh. Absolutely. I keep wondering about the cell tower, Sean,
because they can isolate who was in that neighborhood basically
on that streak for Pete's sake, between let's just say
nine forty five and a PM and eleven am, and
then then narrow it down and see what numbers are
still in the area that would rule out neighbors and
(08:17):
what numbers have left the area. I mean, it takes
a lot of manpower and apparently there are about one
hundred detectives there the FBI, and again, alas been said
about recent suspects, I'd be I find it very difficult
to believe there's a suspect now and they haven't nabbed him. Okay,
So that said, a lot is happening that they've renewed
(08:39):
to search. There are helicopters back out, there's the extensive
ground search going on right now. It had earlier been
reported it had been called off. I think it had
been called off for that day or for a twenty
four hour period. They're back out there, and that's very
heartening to me. That means they think they've got a
chance finding something.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I've recently watched a documentary on the Elizabeth Smart case
and I did cover that at the time, and I
got to know Ed Smart, and I remember when they
were very suspicious of the family. It was never the family,
and it ended up being some handyman that had done
some work at the house and they never thought of it.
(09:18):
It was only when the younger sister who was in
the room when Elizabeth was abducted, that find that she just,
you know, that memory came back to her. I'm sure
she was traumatized too. She was a young girl and
that is what led them to this lunatic that had
taken her hostage. And thank god, she came back alive.
(09:41):
I'm sure her life is never going to be the same,
but at least they found her alive.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
At least she was found alive. She is an amazing
example of fortitude. But they have survived and they're an inspiration,
all of them, the whole family.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, they really are. You're a national treasure, Nancy Grace.
I believe we have you on Hannity tonight. We look
forward to having you. The work you do. You're doing
God's work, and out of the ashes of personal tragedy,
you have turned that into something so good and helpful
for so many And I just admire you that much.
(10:22):
I'm very grateful that you come on the program, and honestly,
I trust you, but about as much, if not more
than the police of cracking this.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I got carried the whole way through it all, and
you know, I was being carried on Christ's back the
whole way through. And now I have this awesome family. No,
life is never the same. It is never the same.
There's no such thing as closure. But you can keep going,
you can severe.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You're a survivor, you're a fighter, and you're doing a
lot of good for a lot of people. And I
know that your attention to this matter means a lot
to a lot of us. Nancy, We love you, appreciate you.
We'll see you tonight. Thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
See you tonight.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
My friend eight nine four.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
One, Shawn is on number if you want to be
a part of the program. All right, let's get to
our busy phones. Let's say hi to well an angel
brother out of Texas is calling. Has lost his sister.
Apparently you're a cartel member. I assume you don't want
to give your name, so we won't give you one.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Hey, Sean, you made my day. I cherished this moment
being able to talk to you. Yes, I am my family.
We had that happen and it happened over ten years ago.
It was an unsolved homicide, but we know what happened
(11:49):
because there was a survivor that he had and he
lived to tell the story to my family. And the
word is is that he got on a plane next
day and flew back to Columbia. And uh, you know what,
when this these things happened to a family, it's a
(12:10):
big eye opener. And as a you're wonderful, graceful lady,
guests just said that it stays with you forever. But
Texas is turning into hell. I just got to tell
you there's so much crime, and it is illegal immigration
(12:32):
and displaced people. And my view on it is that
when when somebody is in a country illegally, it may
not be true, but they have the they have the
mindset that they're invisible and and that they're undetectable, so
they are more likely to get involved in crime of
(12:54):
all different types. And uh, I've just lived it. I've
seen so much of it through the years. It's just
you know, I'm sharing this story with This is.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
What frustrates me.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I mean, you have all of these known terrorists and
murderers and rapists and child molesters, drug dealers that have
been bravely arrested by Ice. They have put their lives
on the line, and now they're being called the Gestapa
and Nazis and fascist. Now they're trying to keep people
safe and secure. And all of this caused by liberal
(13:30):
Democrats that had wide open borders. And it's just infuriating
me because people like you and Nancy Gray should not
have to live through the hell you live through because
we're allowing people unvetted into this country. And like what
Nancy said, I support immigration, but legal immigration that includes
a background check to make sure you don't have radical associations,
(13:52):
a health check and to make sure that financially you're
not going to be a burden on the American people.
It's not complicated and it's not burden some And the
Save Act is about not letting illegals impact our elections
by voting. All of this needs to be rectified if
we're going to have a country, Reagan said, a country
without borders will not survive. Well, not going to be
(14:14):
a country unless we know who's coming into this country.
And if you want to know how bad illegal immigration
can get, you know, look at Great Britain with their
eighty eighty five Sharia courts. Look at no go zones
in Europe, look at you know, you know, unfettered illegal
immigration without assimilation, and that will be America. Everyone needs
(14:36):
a gut check. We have got to keep criminals out
of our country. I'm so sorry what happened to you
and your family. I do appreciate your call. Eight hundred
and nine one Shaw is a number if you want
to be a part of the program. Expot the radio
(15:24):
show the mainstream media love State.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
This is the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
By twenty five now till the top of the hour.
Eight hundred ninety four one Shawn our number. If you
want to be a part of the program. You know,
I have to talking to Nancy Grace. I hear John
and Rossic of five for fighting in the background. Put
this music up. It's like you need it just feels
like the moment, doesn't. It just kind of wish that
(16:16):
there would be a superman that emerges that can save
these lives and that we wouldn't be living through an
insane period of time where the people that are actually
putting their lives on the line and arresting murderers, known terrorists, rapists,
child molesters, they're demonized with regularity as being Gestapo and Nazis,
(16:41):
and it just continues all for political purposes.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
They don't care about people. They cared.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
If Democrats cared about people, they would have fixed what
we've been covering for twenty plus years. All of the
people shot and shot and killed in Chicago. They don't
lift a finger to fix it. They don't care. If
they cared, they'd fix it. But they can't weaponize it,
they can't politicize it, so why bother. You know, the
same people that would applaud the courage of ICE agents
(17:07):
and not be inciting and dehumanizing the very people that
are risking their lives to arrest them. They wouldn't do it,
and trust me, I'm not. What's happening with Savannah Guthrie's
mom is awful. I mean, there are countries that deal
with with kidnappings and ransom pretty much on a daily basis.
(17:28):
And you know, I know people that live in Mexico
for example. I mean, remember how bad it was getting
at one point. Linda in Mexico was awful. The cartels.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
It's not much that.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
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All right, let's get to our busy phones. Let us
say hi to Tim and Iowa, Tim, Hi, how are
you glad you called?
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Sean? Thanks.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
I was just thinking the other day and I did
not watch the Grammys. I have no intention of watching
those kind of shows. I'm not interested in what they're
going to say. Most of the entertainment isn't really that
much entertaining. But I got to hear all the commentary afterwards,
and one of the things that came up was everybody
wearing the pins and all the pins, and I had
(19:53):
to think, there's got to be a way we can
counter that, that we can claim that high ground on them.
They want to be ice out, Why don't we get
something like angel tens and everybody were angels? To think
of all the families that have lost loved ones and
the people that have been killed by illegals, and it's
just a quiet thing. And if they want to be
(20:15):
upset about us wearing an angel, let them listen.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm all in favor of all of it.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And I will tell you this issue really needs to
get into the consciousness of our nation. We need to understand.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I go back and I keep repeating myself, but there's
a tipping point moment in this whole discussion when Lake
and Riley's family and Joscelyn Hungary's family was introduced a
year ago when Donald Trump just got back into office
and he gave us session joint Session speech before Congress,
(20:54):
and they would not stand for the families of Lake
and Riley or Joscelyn Hungary. If you can't stand for
families that lost their loved ones because of unvetted Biden, Harris,
mayorcis illegals that all Democrats either lied about and said
wasn't happening, or they just sat quietly and were complicit
(21:17):
and let it happen. Then I'm telling you don't have
a heart, a conscience, or a soul. What Biden did
and what Harris did and Mayorcus did is the single
greatest preventable national security disaster in the history of our country,
no other way to put it. And they didn't care.
And they're still to this day protecting this madness that
(21:40):
they have inflicted on this country.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
With all the talk about.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Ice, ice, ice, ice, ice, ICE is out there doing
their job. They're all risking their lives. I'm not saying
every situation has been perfect. I'll never say that you're
going to have. You know, human beings are imperfect and
there's always room for improvement. I'm willing to have constructive criticism, dialogue,
discussion about any of it. A overwhelming number of hundreds
(22:06):
of thousands of people, real criminals they have deported, has
made our country more safe and more secure. The alternative
is to do nothing what the Democrats want to do,
what Chuck Schumer says he wants to do, and reward
people for not respecting our laws, borders, and sovereignty. That's
not an option for me. And it's a disgrace that
this is what this party now wants to run on.
(22:28):
Disgrace that they want to shut the government down over it.
Disgrace They want to dismantle and defund and you know,
reimagine the police and then you know any you know,
no cash bail, all this insanity. And if this does
not motivate you to get off your ass and vote
this midterm election year, I don't know what will. Because
(22:50):
everything is on the line, all Trump progress will stop
and we will be in full twenty four to seven
investigative mode, impeachment mode, and none of it will be
good for the country. But that's where they want to
take us. It's about power. It's chilling. I like your
idea anyway. Good call eight hundred and nine four one.
Shawn is on number Dennis in Long Island, New York.
(23:13):
What's up, Dennis?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Where do you live in? Long Island?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Farmingdale, Long Island.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Oh, Farmingdale? Well, very well. Yeah, there's a white castle
on Route one ten. Used to go go there every
time I passed it. I couldn't not I couldn't pass
by without stopping.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah, you might've been ahead of me in the line
way back when.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Either ahead or behind, it doesn't matter. I still got
my my belly buster.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I've come from you know, my mom raised me in
a broken home, and I used to have She used
to have the the white Castle frozen in the freezer
so they could sit there.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
And they're actually not bad. I can get them down
here in Florida. They're not bad.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Usually when you get something frozen, it's never as good.
But if you do it the right way and you
don't put it in the microwave, you can actually make
them taste almost as good as coming right out of
a white castle.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Almost. I'll take you what on that you were discussing disgraceful.
I mean, you're just saying disgraceful with these Democrats. You know,
obviously New York I got to deal with Schumer, Jeffries,
you know, making us look terrible. I think it's all
about power, because the Save Act makes so much sense,
you know, it's logical. But I don't want to give
(24:29):
up their power. And you know, if they did, if
Congress just gets I mean, if the Senate just gets
you know, you know, hey, let's band together here, you know,
soon and McConnell, let's go. If they put this together,
the Save Act, you'll who knows, New York might even
be your red state. I mean, for crying out loud,
I pay the highest taxes, one of the highest taxes
(24:52):
in the country, and my vote doesn't count every year,
it just doesn't count. And it's very frustrating, just so frustrating.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Bruce Blakeman would be an amazing governor for the state
of New York. Yes, math does not work in his favor, unfortunately,
Now am I am I still going to support them?
Of course, I'm going to support Bruce. He's done a
great job in Nassau County. He would do a great
job for the state. He could save the state. But unfortunately,
(25:21):
you know, a lot of people like me left New
York and all these private equity companies, all these big banks,
all these financial firms on Wall Street, they have packed
up and they have left, and most of them have
like small remaining offices for their New York customers. The
rest of them Wall Street South, they moved to Texas,
(25:42):
they moved to the Carolina As, they moved to Tennessee.
They're out, they're done. But Wall Street South in South
Florida is real.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Yeah, my brother actually was smart enough thirty years ago
to leave and he did thirty one years, thirty years
on the job Fort Laudaville City Police and as being
disgruntled with all this, with the with the vote.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Let me tell you right now, let me guess your
brother's pretty wealthy because he bought a home thirty years
ago and that home is worth fifteen times what he
paid for it, if not more.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
I mean, I call him, you know, you know, Gilligan
and skipper because he's got a vote, and you know
he hates the beach. But yet he went down to
Fort Laudaville and become a cop. You know, he was
smart I stayed up here and became a teacher in
New York City. So now you know what I'm dealing
with with my socialist boss.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well, well are you almost done? When you're done, get
out of there. You know, my accountants used to say
to me every year, whatever you do, don't die in
New York.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I'd look at him. I'm like, okay, I'll talk to
God about that.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yeah, I'm fifty three.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'm almost there.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
And then I'm heading my wife's like South Carolina or Florida.
I'm like, I don't care. Let me just get out
of here. And you know what, I'll even give up
being a Jet fan, you know, because my season's done
in October, so you know, I.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's done in September usually, but who's counting exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
You bet man, appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Dennis eight hundred and nine foot one. Shawn is on
number if you want to be a part of the
program Casey San Diego Coco Radio. What's up, Casey? How
are you?
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (27:21):
San?
Speaker 7 (27:22):
Thank you so much for speaking truth for all these
years when a lot of people didn't have the courage too.
It's really refreshing because you hear so much on other
stations and on the mainstream media, you just can't trust
it anymore. And it's so we're leaving having you do
that for the United States and for the world to hear.
So thank you for that, and then yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
So yeah, about what we were talking about with crime,
A lot of it is crime that I'm noticing. It's
all You've seen a lot of it in South America
and other parts of the world. And when I saw
my stomach dropped when I saw the borders wide open
like that, And every time I would turn on the TV,
I was just like, oh, my gosh. Because I helped
(28:05):
a lot of military veterans do mental health work for
them and they were, you know, exposed to a lot
of stuff that isis used to do the women and children,
and I would listen to detailed stories as part of
the therapy and just not knowing and just also knowing
military people who are here, who may wonder, hey, when
(28:26):
there was unmanned bordered, how many of those people can
you know would get in that might harm them too.
So it's just left it just kind of made my
stomach drop, you know, I'm all for you know, immigration,
people coming wanting a better life. But unfortunately, I feel
like there's a bigger slice of the pie of people
who just want to come in here with ulterior motives.
(28:48):
And that's why the idea of like having citizenship is
so important because it gives like a focus, Like if
you do any kind of study, you have to know
what you're focusing on, because otherwise it gets lost. So
if people are coming in, they take no oath to
be part of this country, They don't have plants to
(29:09):
integrate in it or to grow the country. They're coming
in without knowing the laws or rules that apply in
this country, and so basically they're taking wherever they're coming
from and they're like putting their spin of wherever they're
from onto our rules and it doesn't even line up.
(29:30):
It's like they have no idea the history, you know,
the sacrifice that was done, you know, to build this country.
I mean, that's why it's kind of a slap in
the face, like when you see them just taking because
they think they're taking from our government, but they don't
understand that we are the government.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And that's well, the problem is you have elected officials
that are just giving and giving and giving your money
and services away. And it's in the hundreds of billions
of dollars nationwide. I mean it's insane. Yeah, you raise
great points, and it's really bad where you are. I've
been down to the border in San Diego where you are.
(30:08):
I've been all the way across you know, the southern
part of the US, where you know, from the Rio
grand to San Diego, and it is you know, it's
never been as bad than it was under Biden. And
he's made all of us vulnerable. And it's costing us
a fortune. Your state can balance a budget because of
all those services you're offering illegals. Right, got to run, Casey,
(30:31):
I appreciate you being one of us. Eight hundred nine
point one Shaw is on number. That's gonna wrap things
up at today. We got a very busy Hannity Tonight.
We will have the latest out of Minnesota, the insanity
of the left and their defund ice movement and defund
DHS movement. Also, we are officially on a ran watch,
(30:53):
President Trump announcing there will be no negotiations. We'll have
the latest on Savannah Gutries, missing mom, Nancy Grace. She
will check in with us as well, also Eric Schmidt,
the Senator from Missouri, Greg Jerrick, Clay, Travis, Charlie Hurts,
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