August 5, 2025 • 29 mins
In this segment, Sean Hannity discusses the impact of artificial intelligence on the economy and the future of jobs with guest Mike Rowe, founder of Mike Rowe Works. They emphasize the importance of skilled trades and work ethic scholarships in training the next generation of workers. They also touch on the challenges faced by blue-collar workers, the significance of authenticity in a world dominated by technology, and the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Gaza. The conversation highlights the need for accountability, moral clarity, and support for organizations like the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews in providing humanitarian assistance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Scotch On an hour two Sean Hannity Show told free
it's eight hundred and nine four one Sean. If you
want to be a part of the program. Everybody says, well, AI,
the future is going to change dramatically, Well, the future
is now. It is changing dramatically, and as a result
of artificial intelligence. I can tell you that there are
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going to be careers and jobs that are simply going
to evaporate in our economy. And that's why it's critical
that you think through if you're a young person, what
profession you might be thinking about going into, because you
don't want to be replaced by artificial intelligence. I spend
a lot of time using GROC. I've learned a lot
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from it, and you can learn a lot from it.
I urge all of my listeners if you've not experimented
with chat, GPT, with rock, Gemini, any of these artificial
intelligence things. I would spend time with it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Now. I say this because I read.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
An article and I spent a lot of time on it,
maybe about a month and a half ago, that the
next generation of millionaires in America are going to be
blue collar, working class people. That's the one thing that
we know AI is not going to replace, although robotics
are certainly showing up in a major way. I saw,
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for example, a video this week of a robot doing
a roof on a house and doing it perfectly. I mean,
that would be something you have to pay attention to.
There's a new article out today gen z is ditching
college and taking up secure trade jobs, but new data
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shows office administration jobs are still safer, more stable, and
less deadly. With that said, the one person that has
been maybe the biggest advocate of the trades is our
good friend Mike Rowe love micro He's a great broadcaster,
good friend. He's with micro works and anyway we appreciate
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that's his foundation. I still never donated twenty five grand,
but I never got my autographed I never got my
autograph poster from all the captains of Deadly as Catch.
And if I'm waiting for it, I'm sure it'll come
any day in the mail.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Now, how are you?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I'm just saving it up for a special, a super special.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You got the check and you cashed it, so that's
all I know.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, let me tell you what I did with the money,
and a bunch of other money that came in from
people who, like you, lived the balance life and like you,
believe that prosperity can still be achieved by learning a
skill that's in demand and working your butt off. I
put it in a pile, and I awarded five hundred
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and twenty six work ethic scholarships this year. That comes
out to five million, fifty thousand dollars. That money goes
out later this week to help train the next generation
of skilled workers. Because the articles you mentioned are rooted
in fact, undeniable, incontrovertible fact. And it's too early for
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a victory lap. But for seventeen years at Microworks, we've
been saying that the chickens will come home to roost
and they're going to look a lot like carpenters and
plumbers and steamfitters and pipe fitters and HVAC professionals and
collision repair and welders and so forth, and so it is.
It's somewhat gratifying and a little scary. You know, I
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thought your summation there was pretty balanced. I don't have
a crystal ball either, and long term, who knows, But
short term, I think you're right on the money. The
next generation to hit it out of the park is
going to be a generation possessed of skill.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So in my ten years that I worked in construction,
I did everything from framing and roofing, and then I
learned how to paint and I started my own painting company.
Then I learned how to hang wallpaper, and then then
I learned how to lay tile. I didn't like falling
three stories off a roof. I didn't particularly love heights.
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It was not my favorite thing. Especially after falling. I'm
frankly lucky I was alive because I went down head first.
It was a slippery day, it was in Rhode Island,
and it was the last nail of the day. It
was a hell storm. We were trying to put tar
paper on the roof before we left, and my feet
gave out. I swung at a two at the second
two and a half story dormer with my hammer. I
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missed it. Now I'm going down head first. I dislocated
my elbow, broke my radio head, busted up my teeth.
After all my years playing hockey, I didn't lose a tooth.
Now I lost them all, And I'm kind of feel
lucky that I'm alive. In many ways, However, when I
learned to do finish work when I would paint a
room or hang paper or lay tile well, and I
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really had a good eye for finished work because I
just I really wanted to do a good job. I
had a sense of personal satisfaction at the end of
every day that I can't even really describe to people.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
No, you can't part of what Dirty Jobs did, And
you know I was. I'm particularly proud of it because
it's very difficult. You know, you're in TV. TV is careful,
it's produced. You hire actors, you create scripts, you rehearse
dirty Jobs. We never did a second take. We only
used real people, and we would show up with our
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cameras and we would go on a roof like the
one you described, and we witnessed some accidents like the
ones you described. And I'm not here to sugarcoat it.
You know, the world is filled with risk, and the
skilled trades are not for everyone. Some people just aren't
cut out for it. That's why our scholarship program is
called a work ethic program. The world's a dangerous place
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and the skilled trades are near the tip of that sphere.
But having said all that, your last point is the
most important point. There's so much meaning, there's so much purpose,
there's so much satisfaction. I mean, we did three hundred
and fifty dirty jobs, and you know, people still ask
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me to this day, what did that cohort know? What
did that group of people know that most of us
have forgotten? And the big part of that answer is
the simple satisfaction that comes from always knowing how you're
doing along the course of your work. And these are
the intangible things. It's kind of like a soft skill, right.
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You can't really teach people appreciation. You can't really teach
them work ethic. These are things you choose to have
or not. And I spend a lot of my time,
as you know, with the Foundation. It's not just the
scholarships or a pr campaign for hard work. It's an
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honest attempt to get people who aren't in the trades,
not necessarily into them, although that's clearly something we need
to do, it's only a matter of national security, but
just to foster a sense of appreciation, a little bit
of wonder for the fact that when you flick the switch,
the lights come on, and that's a hell of a thing.
And when you flush the toilet, the mets goes away,
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and that's a modern miracle. And if we don't have
an honest appreciation. I'm talking about the three hundred million
or so people who share my addiction to smooth roads
and indoor plumbing and affordable electricity. If we're not blown
away by the miracle of it and by the people
who provide it, then the skills gap is going to
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get wider. And I worry, man, because I'm rooting for
the president. I want to see manufacturing reshored and I
want to see industrialization reinvigorated. But we have seven point
six million open job right now. Sean four hundred and
eighty thousand of them are in manufacturing alone.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So, by the way, that's about to get so much
bigger because Donald Trump has secured anywhere from twelve to
fifteen trillion dollars in manufacturing money for automobiles, for pharmaceuticals,
semiconductor chips, rare earths, magnets. I mean, all that manufacturing
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is coming online quickly, especially because they added apparently bonus depreciation,
which means that if you build a manufacturing center, you
get to write it off in year one, and that
is incentivizing companies to spend that money.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Almost immediately, Yep, yep, all true.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
But look, I was in the room about three weeks
ago in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, sitting on the stage with the
President and thirty five CEOs of some of the biggest
companies in the country who collectively played ninety two billion
dollars to infrastructure and data centers in PA alone. Now,
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it was a story, but it wasn't big enough. This
is a huge thing that happened. And I realized about
halfway through. The reason I was there was kind of
to remind the crowd, Look, we've got the money, and
we have a president who seems pretty determined to bring
these opportunities back to the States. But I don't know
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that we have the workforce right now. And I don't
know if you've crossed paths yet with Nick Everstad, you'd
love him. He wrote a book called Men Without Work,
and in it he takes a deep, deep dive into
the reasons why there's seven million able bodied men in
this country right now who not only aren't working, they're
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not looking for work. That's never happened in peacetime before.
So when you think about the opportunities that currently exist
that employers can't fill, and then when you think about
the opportunities you've just described that are going to be created,
you have to wrestle with the basic truth that creating
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jobs is different than creating enthusiasm for jobs. And if
we don't have the enthusiasm, if we don't have the
aforementioned appreciation, we're going to have a really tough time
filling those opportunities.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
The jobs that we're describing here are high paying career
jobs with great benefits, you know, that will help people
achieve the American dream. You know, I've always admired you
from Afar. I feel like my in my life and career,
I've been blessed beyond anything I ever deserve. If there
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were two shows that I could do that were different
than what I'm doing now, they would be the two
shows you worked on, the Thirtiest Jobs and Deadliest Catch.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I mean, you know I'm obsessed with them because I
talk to you about it all the time. I'm obsessed
with it. Well, yeah, because I mean, like my heart
was broken when when Deadliest Catch you went through a
period was about two years in a row, and a
lot of the crew members there were dying left, right,
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and sideways. I'm like, oh my, I couldn't even believe it. Yeah,
it was so tragic and so sad, and you knew
these guys intimately.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, Phil Harris was a friend lost him in two
thousand and eight. I suppose it was Cornelia Marie went
down who was a guy every year? You know, And look,
is this is not something that ought to be glamorized,
but nor is it something that should be ignored. You
fell off for roof in the midst of a construction
career that you nevertheless continued to enjoy these men on
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Deadliest Catch, which, by the way, season twenty one just started.
Twenty one seasons. So you know, there are a lot
of things you can look at, dirty jobs and dead
leaves catch, and you can you can wonder, you know,
why would those shows last two decades? And you know,
I've got a couple theories, but at the top of
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the list is the simple fact that they show you
something that is undeniably true, undeniably real, and undeniably work.
And it's a reminder you know, as we I think,
I mean, since we started this conversation with artificial intelligence,
I'll make the point around that that term in the future,
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even though I can't see it clearly. I am pretty
sure that there's going to be a bright line drawn
between all that is artificial and all that is authentic.
And that line's going to become really important for people
to understand. And we're going to value things on both
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sides of the line, but we're going to hunger for
the authentic thing, whether it's a piece of art music
or a roofer or a craftsman. And I think the
extent to which this new technology affects everything will be different.
It's going to be really hard to handicap what comes
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next exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But well, let me tell you you can never replace
those guys on Deadly's catch. Artificial intelligence. Maybe technology might
help the you know how heartbreaking it is when they
pull up, you know, when they pull up the cage
and there's no no crab in it. I'm like, ah,
I'm like so disappointed. I feel like I'm living it
with them.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
It's life.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's like I mean the.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Metaph it's real.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
It's absolutely real. And look, I'll tell you something else
you don't see in that show, which is awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
We got about thirty seconds, so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Flat seas nothing happening pleasant temperatures bord he.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I have never seen that, and and you got the
bearing sea.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
No, but it's a part of life too. Look, your
day is full and busy, but you don't spend twenty
four hours on the radio or in front of the camera.
That's what people know you for. But there's a whole
lot of other stuff that makes Sean Hannity Sean Hannity.
And the same is true of Mike Row and Phil
Harris and any one of a thousand roofers we've never
met but would be.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Better for We love talking to our friend Mike Row. Mike,
we appreciate it. Don't forget micro works. I believe it's
microworks dot com.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Right, microworks dot org. And look, I will I promise you.
I promise you. I'll get you back.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I don't worry. I just love jazz and you. It's fine.
I love those guys. Please tell him I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I'll tell him, and I'm serious about the money. It
went a long way and we're gonna ring.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
No, that was my pleasure, but I just give I'd
just like to give you a hard time because I
can me an opening and I'm taking full advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'm at your mercy. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
All right, Mikero, all right, quickbreak, right back. We'll continue
straight ahead. Eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn is
our number. Let's get into our busy, busy telephones. Tom
in New York, Tom, Hi, how are you glad you called?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Zar?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Find you what you're hi?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Sean, A long time listen's going on, first time caller.
I just wanted to thank you. Is there any way
for the DJ whoerever it is to go after Obama
and impeach him after the fact so that he at
least doesn't get on.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
The impeachment side.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I mean, obviously the precedent was set with Donald Trump, right,
So I would say the answer is, if they wanted to,
they could. I'm not so sure I would waste my
time on it, and some that might annoy some people
that I'm saying that those people that are involved in
a criminal conspiracy, however, do need to be looked into.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I do think there is an argument. I think people
have been very dismissive of the fact that if Obama
orchestrated all of this, that he would be covered under
the immunity decision by the Supreme Court that was given,
that applied, that was applicable to Donald Trump. I'm not
so sure orchestrating a contrive phony narrative to impact an
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election and sabotage or presidency can be defined as the
official duties of any president. However, do I think it
would get far legally?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I do not.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'm just being realistic. I'm giving you the straight scoop here.
But as it relates to the grand Conspiracy, do I
think that there are a lot of people that are
probably very nervous would this grand jury be informed?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I think a lot of people should be nervous. This
is now a story that we have covered, you know,
for many many years on this program. We have been
proven more than correct. I find it anxious that the
same people that pedled lies and conspiracy theories, you know,
have never retracted their their phony reporting. They've never apologized.
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They just keep moving forward with more lies, more conspiracy theories.
As a conspiracy theorist Rachel Maddow, we now live in
a country that as an authoritarian leader consolidating dictatorship. It's
you know, it's I guess you know, conspiracy theory craft cells.
But what are you gonna do. I believe in free speech,
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even if you're dumb, it's it's obnoxious. But it was
everybody in the legacy media. And if you want to
know what the net result for them was, tedling their
lives and conspiracy theories. I argue that legacy media is
now dead. I think that Donald Trump tattooed the words
fake and news into the foreheads of every major network,
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two cable networks, the New York Times, in Washington Post
and people they as we let as we went into
the twenty twenty four election, and everybody heard all the lies,
conspiracy theories, the trashing of Trump, the American people ignored it,
and I think that is telling in and of itself.
Let them die and bleed out because nobody cares what
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they think. That they have no influence anymore, and I
don't think they'll ever get it back, because once you
betrayed the trust of your audience, why should anyone ever
trust you again.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I agree, but they still have to be punished for
what they attempted to do and what the taxpayer money
and what they put President Trump through.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Well, I think there's I think with this grand jury,
it's going to be interesting to watch. However, I say
all of that, but I don't want to overpromise and underdeliver.
I don't want to raise your expectations and tell you
that these people are going to be held accountable or
be indicted. Do I think that there has been a
grand conspiracy in three presidential elections putting blocks on those
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elections to benefit Democrats? Do I think people in what
we describe as the deep state abuse their power?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yes? Do I think it's illegal? Yes? Do I think
it was the real threat?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I mean, Democrats ran to Donald Trump's the threat to democracy,
when in reality, the real threat to democracy was their
weaponization of justice and lawfair that they used from twenty
twenty to twenty twenty four, or the fact that they
knew that the Hunter Biden laptop was real. They literally
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found it to be authentic, and then they go out
and prebunk it to social media, so the story that
they knew would leak get suppressed before an election. That's
putting a cinder block on an election to me, you know,
advancing a Russia hoax that they knew was false based
on a phony Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian
disinformation dossier and then using it to backdoor spy on
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President Trump, Trump transition team Trump is repulsive to me.
And then to take career senior Intel officials that determined
there was no Russia Russia hoax and then to turn
it on his head and rewrite it in a way
to create difficulty for an incoming president is beyond repulsive.
It is an abusive power. It is corruption at its worst.
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This makes Watergate to me look like a jaywalking offense.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
And Nixon didn't even know about it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I think he probably did know more than we know.
Thank you very much, appreciate the call, my friend. Eight
hundred and nine to four one Shawn Steve, Louisiana. Next
Sean Hannity Show. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Steve, Hello, mister Hannity, this is indeed a pleasure. I've
watched you and listened to you since your LEDs with
mister Combs on Fox and wasn't here, gentlemen, and I
just think of you as a true patriot. You've taken
all these slams, these ugly, horrible slams, all these she
is and you haven't blinked. You've just told the facts,
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did incredble research and told the facts, and they had
to write experts on I really think a lot of you, sir.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Well, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And by the way, the Slams do not bother me,
and the Slams to this day don't bother me.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Good.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And you know the people that are trying to, you know,
sucker me into their intramural arguments because they think that
they are the purest Maga people, Well, I was around
in twenty fifteen and I don't know or remember any
of them being anywhere near where I was supporting Donald
Trump right right.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
And I think your fans, those people who love you,
I think we get more upset than you do. And
before I tell you why, I called just a quick
side note. Look, you and miss Linda Oil, y'all are wonderful.
Y'all are great people, but anybody can forget and I
just want to remind you to do something nice for
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Miss Katie on her birthday. She's such a sweet person,
she is, and she's got to be a Southern goal.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Everybody that works on my team, they're all nice people
in their own way. Linda's a very unique case, but
she has great qualities.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Absolutely, I'm not trying to be nice, so don't worry.
I'm not offended. I'm not here to be nice. I'm
nice to a few people. There's a people or in
my family and my animals. Everybody else, forget about it.
You're on a short list.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm not even on the nice list.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
You're on the it depends what date is lists? Are
you on the day where you put me on hold
for thirty seven minutes? And then I have to figure
out what I'm going to do with my segment?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Anyway, I both I both love and fear you.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
You all see that.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
It's a smart man. You're going to live a long,
happy life. My friend.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Let me tell you there's nothing to fear. He's all bark,
no bite.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Oh my god, he's so full of it.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
You don't even ride the subway with me.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
How would you know?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I have no desire to ride the subway with you.
I have no desire to ever ride a subway again
as long as I live.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Trust me, if you rode the subway with me and
be like, she is someone to be feared.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Okay them, you're welcome. I used to ride the subway.
I used to ride the train until I was chased
from one car to another by a lunatic screaming that
I'm ruining the world.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
You know what would be a great show is you
and Curtis live from the Subway.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I could do it. I mean we've done it before.
I've been on the Stubley many times with Curtis. All right,
let's get back to our friend Steve and Louisiana. Steven,
the Flora is yours.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Thank you, sir. The reason I'm calling is because I'm
differing with my friends live alone Conservative and I'm not
sure if I'm just strong on this issue or I'm
biased and I'm willing to accept ether. I just want
your opinion on do I have the right perspective? The Gossins,
the Palestinians and Gaza everybody. I'm tired of hearing about,
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Oh these poor people, there are such victims. And please, sir,
don't get me wrong. I never want to see a
child starve. You know, I want them to get to
good medical care and all that wonderful star that they deserve.
But let's face reality, what wasn't around oh six o nine?
They were given this wonderful land, and instead of instead
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of doing the hard work to develop and show that
you're worthy of your own country, and the courageousness behind that.
They vote in Hamas, they vote in Hamas, just like
any's reminiscent of the nineteen thirties, the German citizens voting
in the Nazi Party. And in both cases, when the
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war's over there they're crying. They're crying. Look, we're starving.
Everything's destroyed, our homes are destroyed, we're starving. Well, folks,
that's causing effect.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
And and and if you also know, I know I'm
going on, I'm sorry if you also note that the
other the Mid East countries don't want these folks. And
there's a reason, there's a reason they they're not pull
yourself up by your bootstraps kind of people. And and
I just I find it so hard to find them
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as victims. Yeah, with the October seventh and thereafter, there
was no more outrage from these people. They just capitulate.
They're out in the crowds channing whatever they told the chance.
You know, if you remember World War two French France,
when they were taken over by Germany, they formed an underground.
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That's courageous. I don't want to keep going on.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Let me, let me help you and let me sum
it up and I'll call President Trump to do it.
The fastest way to end the humanitarian crisis in Gaza
is for Harmost to surrender and release the hostages. Well,
what really irritates me is a lot of people have
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lost a lot of perspective. Israel has been the victim
of a group of people funded by the number one
state sponsor of terror. It has been responsible for taking
monies given to them to build out terror tunnel networks.
I've been in them, I've seen them. I've been to
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the towns where tens of thousands of rockets have been
fired into We know what happened on October seventh, the
equivalent of forty thousand dead Americans a day based on
their population size versus ours. We know their charter calls
for the destruction of Israel. Any suffering that has taken
place is a direct result of Hamas. And of course
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they're benefactors, the Iranians that have been fomenting terror in
the region. As the number one state sponsor of terror,
Israel has been the victim. And the fact that so
many and now I even hear from some conservatives, don't
have the moral clarity and sense to understand who the
real victim is here is a little troubling to me.
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Israel has been the victor of the victim of an
unrelenting terrorist campaign against them since the UN Partition Plan
and even before that, and Israel has every right to
defend itself and the idea that they somehow are responsible
for this is obscene. Over one hundred million meals have
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been given out. But what happened with all the money
that they spend on that should be spent on schools
and infrastructure and hospitals and making a better way of
life for their people. Know, they built the most intricate,
sophisticated because I've been in them underground terror tunnel system.
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They buy weaponry like rockets to continue to fire tens
and tens of thousands of them over the years into Israel,
and they foment terror. Why are they starving? Why are
their people starving? Because they have put the They have
prioritized killing Jews and terrorizing the Jewish people over the
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survival even of their own people. But with that said,
I want a permanent solution, and I don't think it's
a two state solution, and I think that hopefully the
President Steve Whitkoff. Israel will come up with a solution
so that innocent people and children will no longer be
victimized by the people that you're right, that they voted
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into government. You know, terrorism has got to stop. Israel
could no longer withstand all these rockets being fired into
that country. It's got to end. And if I'm Israel,
one more rocket and I will decimate you. Sorry you
punched me or my family member in the face, I
am going to hit you back ten, twenty, one hundred
times harder. That's how life works. I wish it wasn't
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that way. I wish evil didn't exist, but it does. Next,
our final roundup and information overload, our
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Scotch On an hour two Sean Hannity Show told free
it's eight hundred and nine four one Sean. If you
want to be a part of the program. Everybody says, well, AI,
the future is going to change dramatically, Well, the future
is now. It is changing dramatically, and as a result
of artificial intelligence. I can tell you that there are
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going to be careers and jobs that are simply going
to evaporate in our economy. And that's why it's critical
that you think through if you're a young person, what
profession you might be thinking about going into, because you
don't want to be replaced by artificial intelligence. I spend
a lot of time using GROC. I've learned a lot
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from it, and you can learn a lot from it.
I urge all of my listeners if you've not experimented
with chat, GPT, with rock, Gemini, any of these artificial
intelligence things. I would spend time with it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Now. I say this because I read.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
An article and I spent a lot of time on it,
maybe about a month and a half ago, that the
next generation of millionaires in America are going to be
blue collar, working class people. That's the one thing that
we know AI is not going to replace, although robotics
are certainly showing up in a major way. I saw,
(01:23):
for example, a video this week of a robot doing
a roof on a house and doing it perfectly. I mean,
that would be something you have to pay attention to.
There's a new article out today gen z is ditching
college and taking up secure trade jobs, but new data
(01:43):
shows office administration jobs are still safer, more stable, and
less deadly. With that said, the one person that has
been maybe the biggest advocate of the trades is our
good friend Mike Rowe love micro He's a great broadcaster,
good friend. He's with micro works and anyway we appreciate
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that's his foundation. I still never donated twenty five grand,
but I never got my autographed I never got my
autograph poster from all the captains of Deadly as Catch.
And if I'm waiting for it, I'm sure it'll come
any day in the mail.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Now, how are you?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I'm just saving it up for a special, a super special.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You got the check and you cashed it, so that's
all I know.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, let me tell you what I did with the money,
and a bunch of other money that came in from
people who, like you, lived the balance life and like you,
believe that prosperity can still be achieved by learning a
skill that's in demand and working your butt off. I
put it in a pile, and I awarded five hundred
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and twenty six work ethic scholarships this year. That comes
out to five million, fifty thousand dollars. That money goes
out later this week to help train the next generation
of skilled workers. Because the articles you mentioned are rooted
in fact, undeniable, incontrovertible fact. And it's too early for
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a victory lap. But for seventeen years at Microworks, we've
been saying that the chickens will come home to roost
and they're going to look a lot like carpenters and
plumbers and steamfitters and pipe fitters and HVAC professionals and
collision repair and welders and so forth, and so it is.
It's somewhat gratifying and a little scary. You know, I
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thought your summation there was pretty balanced. I don't have
a crystal ball either, and long term, who knows, But
short term, I think you're right on the money. The
next generation to hit it out of the park is
going to be a generation possessed of skill.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
So in my ten years that I worked in construction,
I did everything from framing and roofing, and then I
learned how to paint and I started my own painting company.
Then I learned how to hang wallpaper, and then then
I learned how to lay tile. I didn't like falling
three stories off a roof. I didn't particularly love heights.
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It was not my favorite thing. Especially after falling. I'm
frankly lucky I was alive because I went down head first.
It was a slippery day, it was in Rhode Island,
and it was the last nail of the day. It
was a hell storm. We were trying to put tar
paper on the roof before we left, and my feet
gave out. I swung at a two at the second
two and a half story dormer with my hammer. I
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missed it. Now I'm going down head first. I dislocated
my elbow, broke my radio head, busted up my teeth.
After all my years playing hockey, I didn't lose a tooth.
Now I lost them all, And I'm kind of feel
lucky that I'm alive. In many ways, However, when I
learned to do finish work when I would paint a
room or hang paper or lay tile well, and I
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really had a good eye for finished work because I
just I really wanted to do a good job. I
had a sense of personal satisfaction at the end of
every day that I can't even really describe to people.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
No, you can't part of what Dirty Jobs did, And
you know I was. I'm particularly proud of it because
it's very difficult. You know, you're in TV. TV is careful,
it's produced. You hire actors, you create scripts, you rehearse
dirty Jobs. We never did a second take. We only
used real people, and we would show up with our
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cameras and we would go on a roof like the
one you described, and we witnessed some accidents like the
ones you described. And I'm not here to sugarcoat it.
You know, the world is filled with risk, and the
skilled trades are not for everyone. Some people just aren't
cut out for it. That's why our scholarship program is
called a work ethic program. The world's a dangerous place
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and the skilled trades are near the tip of that sphere.
But having said all that, your last point is the
most important point. There's so much meaning, there's so much purpose,
there's so much satisfaction. I mean, we did three hundred
and fifty dirty jobs, and you know, people still ask
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me to this day, what did that cohort know? What
did that group of people know that most of us
have forgotten? And the big part of that answer is
the simple satisfaction that comes from always knowing how you're
doing along the course of your work. And these are
the intangible things. It's kind of like a soft skill, right.
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You can't really teach people appreciation. You can't really teach
them work ethic. These are things you choose to have
or not. And I spend a lot of my time,
as you know, with the Foundation. It's not just the
scholarships or a pr campaign for hard work. It's an
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honest attempt to get people who aren't in the trades,
not necessarily into them, although that's clearly something we need
to do, it's only a matter of national security, but
just to foster a sense of appreciation, a little bit
of wonder for the fact that when you flick the switch,
the lights come on, and that's a hell of a thing.
And when you flush the toilet, the mets goes away,
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and that's a modern miracle. And if we don't have
an honest appreciation. I'm talking about the three hundred million
or so people who share my addiction to smooth roads
and indoor plumbing and affordable electricity. If we're not blown
away by the miracle of it and by the people
who provide it, then the skills gap is going to
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get wider. And I worry, man, because I'm rooting for
the president. I want to see manufacturing reshored and I
want to see industrialization reinvigorated. But we have seven point
six million open job right now. Sean four hundred and
eighty thousand of them are in manufacturing alone.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So, by the way, that's about to get so much
bigger because Donald Trump has secured anywhere from twelve to
fifteen trillion dollars in manufacturing money for automobiles, for pharmaceuticals,
semiconductor chips, rare earths, magnets. I mean, all that manufacturing
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is coming online quickly, especially because they added apparently bonus depreciation,
which means that if you build a manufacturing center, you
get to write it off in year one, and that
is incentivizing companies to spend that money.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Almost immediately, Yep, yep, all true.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
But look, I was in the room about three weeks
ago in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, sitting on the stage with the
President and thirty five CEOs of some of the biggest
companies in the country who collectively played ninety two billion
dollars to infrastructure and data centers in PA alone. Now,
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it was a story, but it wasn't big enough. This
is a huge thing that happened. And I realized about
halfway through. The reason I was there was kind of
to remind the crowd, Look, we've got the money, and
we have a president who seems pretty determined to bring
these opportunities back to the States. But I don't know
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that we have the workforce right now. And I don't
know if you've crossed paths yet with Nick Everstad, you'd
love him. He wrote a book called Men Without Work,
and in it he takes a deep, deep dive into
the reasons why there's seven million able bodied men in
this country right now who not only aren't working, they're
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not looking for work. That's never happened in peacetime before.
So when you think about the opportunities that currently exist
that employers can't fill, and then when you think about
the opportunities you've just described that are going to be created,
you have to wrestle with the basic truth that creating
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jobs is different than creating enthusiasm for jobs. And if
we don't have the enthusiasm, if we don't have the
aforementioned appreciation, we're going to have a really tough time
filling those opportunities.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
The jobs that we're describing here are high paying career
jobs with great benefits, you know, that will help people
achieve the American dream. You know, I've always admired you
from Afar. I feel like my in my life and career,
I've been blessed beyond anything I ever deserve. If there
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were two shows that I could do that were different
than what I'm doing now, they would be the two
shows you worked on, the Thirtiest Jobs and Deadliest Catch.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I mean, you know I'm obsessed with them because I
talk to you about it all the time. I'm obsessed
with it. Well, yeah, because I mean, like my heart
was broken when when Deadliest Catch you went through a
period was about two years in a row, and a
lot of the crew members there were dying left, right,
(11:24):
and sideways. I'm like, oh my, I couldn't even believe it. Yeah,
it was so tragic and so sad, and you knew
these guys intimately.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, Phil Harris was a friend lost him in two
thousand and eight. I suppose it was Cornelia Marie went
down who was a guy every year? You know, And look,
is this is not something that ought to be glamorized,
but nor is it something that should be ignored. You
fell off for roof in the midst of a construction
career that you nevertheless continued to enjoy these men on
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Deadliest Catch, which, by the way, season twenty one just started.
Twenty one seasons. So you know, there are a lot
of things you can look at, dirty jobs and dead
leaves catch, and you can you can wonder, you know,
why would those shows last two decades? And you know,
I've got a couple theories, but at the top of
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the list is the simple fact that they show you
something that is undeniably true, undeniably real, and undeniably work.
And it's a reminder you know, as we I think,
I mean, since we started this conversation with artificial intelligence,
I'll make the point around that that term in the future,
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even though I can't see it clearly. I am pretty
sure that there's going to be a bright line drawn
between all that is artificial and all that is authentic.
And that line's going to become really important for people
to understand. And we're going to value things on both
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sides of the line, but we're going to hunger for
the authentic thing, whether it's a piece of art music
or a roofer or a craftsman. And I think the
extent to which this new technology affects everything will be different.
It's going to be really hard to handicap what comes
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next exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
But well, let me tell you you can never replace
those guys on Deadly's catch. Artificial intelligence. Maybe technology might
help the you know how heartbreaking it is when they
pull up, you know, when they pull up the cage
and there's no no crab in it. I'm like, ah,
I'm like so disappointed. I feel like I'm living it
with them.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
It's life.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's like I mean the.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Metaph it's real.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
It's absolutely real. And look, I'll tell you something else
you don't see in that show, which is awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
We got about thirty seconds, so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Flat seas nothing happening pleasant temperatures bord he.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I have never seen that, and and you got the
bearing sea.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
No, but it's a part of life too. Look, your
day is full and busy, but you don't spend twenty
four hours on the radio or in front of the camera.
That's what people know you for. But there's a whole
lot of other stuff that makes Sean Hannity Sean Hannity.
And the same is true of Mike Row and Phil
Harris and any one of a thousand roofers we've never
met but would be.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Better for We love talking to our friend Mike Row. Mike,
we appreciate it. Don't forget micro works. I believe it's
microworks dot com.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Right, microworks dot org. And look, I will I promise you.
I promise you. I'll get you back.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I don't worry. I just love jazz and you. It's fine.
I love those guys. Please tell him I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I'll tell him, and I'm serious about the money. It
went a long way and we're gonna ring.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
No, that was my pleasure, but I just give I'd
just like to give you a hard time because I
can me an opening and I'm taking full advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I'm at your mercy. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
All right, Mikero, all right, quickbreak, right back. We'll continue
straight ahead. Eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn is
our number. Let's get into our busy, busy telephones. Tom
in New York, Tom, Hi, how are you glad you called?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Zar?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Find you what you're hi?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Sean, A long time listen's going on, first time caller.
I just wanted to thank you. Is there any way
for the DJ whoerever it is to go after Obama
and impeach him after the fact so that he at
least doesn't get on.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
The impeachment side.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I mean, obviously the precedent was set with Donald Trump, right,
So I would say the answer is, if they wanted to,
they could. I'm not so sure I would waste my
time on it, and some that might annoy some people
that I'm saying that those people that are involved in
a criminal conspiracy, however, do need to be looked into.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I do think there is an argument. I think people
have been very dismissive of the fact that if Obama
orchestrated all of this, that he would be covered under
the immunity decision by the Supreme Court that was given,
that applied, that was applicable to Donald Trump. I'm not
so sure orchestrating a contrive phony narrative to impact an
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election and sabotage or presidency can be defined as the
official duties of any president. However, do I think it
would get far legally?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I do not.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'm just being realistic. I'm giving you the straight scoop here.
But as it relates to the grand Conspiracy, do I
think that there are a lot of people that are
probably very nervous would this grand jury be informed?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I think a lot of people should be nervous. This
is now a story that we have covered, you know,
for many many years on this program. We have been
proven more than correct. I find it anxious that the
same people that pedled lies and conspiracy theories, you know,
have never retracted their their phony reporting. They've never apologized.
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They just keep moving forward with more lies, more conspiracy theories.
As a conspiracy theorist Rachel Maddow, we now live in
a country that as an authoritarian leader consolidating dictatorship. It's
you know, it's I guess you know, conspiracy theory craft cells.
But what are you gonna do. I believe in free speech,
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even if you're dumb, it's it's obnoxious. But it was
everybody in the legacy media. And if you want to
know what the net result for them was, tedling their
lives and conspiracy theories. I argue that legacy media is
now dead. I think that Donald Trump tattooed the words
fake and news into the foreheads of every major network,
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two cable networks, the New York Times, in Washington Post
and people they as we let as we went into
the twenty twenty four election, and everybody heard all the lies,
conspiracy theories, the trashing of Trump, the American people ignored it,
and I think that is telling in and of itself.
Let them die and bleed out because nobody cares what
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they think. That they have no influence anymore, and I
don't think they'll ever get it back, because once you
betrayed the trust of your audience, why should anyone ever
trust you again.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I agree, but they still have to be punished for
what they attempted to do and what the taxpayer money
and what they put President Trump through.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Well, I think there's I think with this grand jury,
it's going to be interesting to watch. However, I say
all of that, but I don't want to overpromise and underdeliver.
I don't want to raise your expectations and tell you
that these people are going to be held accountable or
be indicted. Do I think that there has been a
grand conspiracy in three presidential elections putting blocks on those
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elections to benefit Democrats? Do I think people in what
we describe as the deep state abuse their power?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yes? Do I think it's illegal? Yes? Do I think
it was the real threat?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I mean, Democrats ran to Donald Trump's the threat to democracy,
when in reality, the real threat to democracy was their
weaponization of justice and lawfair that they used from twenty
twenty to twenty twenty four, or the fact that they
knew that the Hunter Biden laptop was real. They literally
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found it to be authentic, and then they go out
and prebunk it to social media, so the story that
they knew would leak get suppressed before an election. That's
putting a cinder block on an election to me, you know,
advancing a Russia hoax that they knew was false based
on a phony Hillary Clinton bought and paid for Russian
disinformation dossier and then using it to backdoor spy on
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President Trump, Trump transition team Trump is repulsive to me.
And then to take career senior Intel officials that determined
there was no Russia Russia hoax and then to turn
it on his head and rewrite it in a way
to create difficulty for an incoming president is beyond repulsive.
It is an abusive power. It is corruption at its worst.
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This makes Watergate to me look like a jaywalking offense.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
And Nixon didn't even know about it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I think he probably did know more than we know.
Thank you very much, appreciate the call, my friend. Eight
hundred and nine to four one Shawn Steve, Louisiana. Next
Sean Hannity Show. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Steve, Hello, mister Hannity, this is indeed a pleasure. I've
watched you and listened to you since your LEDs with
mister Combs on Fox and wasn't here, gentlemen, and I
just think of you as a true patriot. You've taken
all these slams, these ugly, horrible slams, all these she
is and you haven't blinked. You've just told the facts,
(20:59):
did incredble research and told the facts, and they had
to write experts on I really think a lot of you, sir.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Well, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
And by the way, the Slams do not bother me,
and the Slams to this day don't bother me.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Good.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And you know the people that are trying to, you know,
sucker me into their intramural arguments because they think that
they are the purest Maga people, Well, I was around
in twenty fifteen and I don't know or remember any
of them being anywhere near where I was supporting Donald
Trump right right.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
And I think your fans, those people who love you,
I think we get more upset than you do. And
before I tell you why, I called just a quick
side note. Look, you and miss Linda Oil, y'all are wonderful.
Y'all are great people, but anybody can forget and I
just want to remind you to do something nice for
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Miss Katie on her birthday. She's such a sweet person,
she is, and she's got to be a Southern goal.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Everybody that works on my team, they're all nice people
in their own way. Linda's a very unique case, but
she has great qualities.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Absolutely, I'm not trying to be nice, so don't worry.
I'm not offended. I'm not here to be nice. I'm
nice to a few people. There's a people or in
my family and my animals. Everybody else, forget about it.
You're on a short list.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
I'm not even on the nice list.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
You're on the it depends what date is lists? Are
you on the day where you put me on hold
for thirty seven minutes? And then I have to figure
out what I'm going to do with my segment?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Anyway, I both I both love and fear you.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
You all see that.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
It's a smart man. You're going to live a long,
happy life. My friend.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Let me tell you there's nothing to fear. He's all bark,
no bite.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Oh my god, he's so full of it.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
You don't even ride the subway with me.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
How would you know?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I have no desire to ride the subway with you.
I have no desire to ever ride a subway again
as long as I live.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Trust me, if you rode the subway with me and
be like, she is someone to be feared.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Okay them, you're welcome. I used to ride the subway.
I used to ride the train until I was chased
from one car to another by a lunatic screaming that
I'm ruining the world.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
You know what would be a great show is you
and Curtis live from the Subway.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I could do it. I mean we've done it before.
I've been on the Stubley many times with Curtis. All right,
let's get back to our friend Steve and Louisiana. Steven,
the Flora is yours.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Thank you, sir. The reason I'm calling is because I'm
differing with my friends live alone Conservative and I'm not
sure if I'm just strong on this issue or I'm
biased and I'm willing to accept ether. I just want
your opinion on do I have the right perspective? The Gossins,
the Palestinians and Gaza everybody. I'm tired of hearing about,
(23:50):
Oh these poor people, there are such victims. And please, sir,
don't get me wrong. I never want to see a
child starve. You know, I want them to get to
good medical care and all that wonderful star that they deserve.
But let's face reality, what wasn't around oh six o nine?
They were given this wonderful land, and instead of instead
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of doing the hard work to develop and show that
you're worthy of your own country, and the courageousness behind that.
They vote in Hamas, they vote in Hamas, just like
any's reminiscent of the nineteen thirties, the German citizens voting
in the Nazi Party. And in both cases, when the
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war's over there they're crying. They're crying. Look, we're starving.
Everything's destroyed, our homes are destroyed, we're starving. Well, folks,
that's causing effect.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
And and and if you also know, I know I'm
going on, I'm sorry if you also note that the
other the Mid East countries don't want these folks. And
there's a reason, there's a reason they they're not pull
yourself up by your bootstraps kind of people. And and
I just I find it so hard to find them
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as victims. Yeah, with the October seventh and thereafter, there
was no more outrage from these people. They just capitulate.
They're out in the crowds channing whatever they told the chance.
You know, if you remember World War two French France,
when they were taken over by Germany, they formed an underground.
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That's courageous. I don't want to keep going on.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Let me, let me help you and let me sum
it up and I'll call President Trump to do it.
The fastest way to end the humanitarian crisis in Gaza
is for Harmost to surrender and release the hostages. Well,
what really irritates me is a lot of people have
(25:54):
lost a lot of perspective. Israel has been the victim
of a group of people funded by the number one
state sponsor of terror. It has been responsible for taking
monies given to them to build out terror tunnel networks.
I've been in them, I've seen them. I've been to
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the towns where tens of thousands of rockets have been
fired into We know what happened on October seventh, the
equivalent of forty thousand dead Americans a day based on
their population size versus ours. We know their charter calls
for the destruction of Israel. Any suffering that has taken
place is a direct result of Hamas. And of course
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they're benefactors, the Iranians that have been fomenting terror in
the region. As the number one state sponsor of terror,
Israel has been the victim. And the fact that so
many and now I even hear from some conservatives, don't
have the moral clarity and sense to understand who the
real victim is here is a little troubling to me.
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Israel has been the victor of the victim of an
unrelenting terrorist campaign against them since the UN Partition Plan
and even before that, and Israel has every right to
defend itself and the idea that they somehow are responsible
for this is obscene. Over one hundred million meals have
(27:24):
been given out. But what happened with all the money
that they spend on that should be spent on schools
and infrastructure and hospitals and making a better way of
life for their people. Know, they built the most intricate,
sophisticated because I've been in them underground terror tunnel system.
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They buy weaponry like rockets to continue to fire tens
and tens of thousands of them over the years into Israel,
and they foment terror. Why are they starving? Why are
their people starving? Because they have put the They have
prioritized killing Jews and terrorizing the Jewish people over the
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survival even of their own people. But with that said,
I want a permanent solution, and I don't think it's
a two state solution, and I think that hopefully the
President Steve Whitkoff. Israel will come up with a solution
so that innocent people and children will no longer be
victimized by the people that you're right, that they voted
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into government. You know, terrorism has got to stop. Israel
could no longer withstand all these rockets being fired into
that country. It's got to end. And if I'm Israel,
one more rocket and I will decimate you. Sorry you
punched me or my family member in the face, I
am going to hit you back ten, twenty, one hundred
times harder. That's how life works. I wish it wasn't
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that way. I wish evil didn't exist, but it does. Next,
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