September 7, 2026 • 29 mins
Sean goes one-on-one with Democratic strategist Corbyn Trent, a former aide to Bernie Sanders and former communications director for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, pressing him on the DSA agenda, immigration, taxes, policing, the Green New Deal, Medicare for All, and the future of the progressive movement. The conversation gets heated as Sean pushes for direct answers on what today’s democratic socialists really believe and what those policies could mean for American voters.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
So we have gone out of our way to have
civil discussions with many. Oliver Larkin was one. A couple
of other people that we've had on. Comrade de Blasio
has been on a number of times with people that
describe themselves as democratic socialists. so that people understand that
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this is a real movement. People have very different beliefs,
for example, than I do. It's been respectful. I think
in every case, Linda, I can't think of anyone getting
out of control. But so it's a pleasure to welcome
to the program Corbyn Trent. Now, Corbyn Trent is a
Democratic strategist, a former communications director for Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
(00:53):
and a former aide to Senator Bernie Sanders. And we
appreciate you taking time, Corbyn, to be with us.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Glad to be here, Sean. Glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
By the way, just so you know, I feel I've
interpreted this Fight the Oligarchy tour of Bernie and AOC,
and I think this is Bernie passing the torch of
the radical left, as I call it, socialist left, Bernie's
a communist, you know, to AOC.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Would you agree with that assessment?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Because if you look at polls now, AOC is leading
in the pack in terms of the 2028 presidential election.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Do I agree with the assessment that Bernie's a commie?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
No, do you agree with the assessment that during the
Fight the Oligarchy tour that Bernie was passing the torch,
his torch... to AOC to take up the mantle.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I don't really think it works that way in a movement.
I don't think you really get to pass the torch
so much as, you know, people grab it or it's taken.
I think definitely you're seeing.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, he chose her. He could have chosen anybody else
to be on tour with. And besides Bernie, I would
say the most effective Democratic candidate endorsers have been Bernie
and AOC.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You wouldn't disagree with that, would you?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
No, obviously that they've been very effective. I mean, they're
good at speaking to people where they're at, and they're
good at amplifying and talking about what people are feeling
and their problems. And I think they're also good at
talking about solutions. That's one of the reasons he took
her with him, because she's good at connecting to human beings.
I think it's an important part of politics, being able
to connect to people's pain and then offer solutions. And
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that's one of the things that we're seeing. That's why
this movement is getting so popular across the country.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You and I agree.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Since 2019, 250 DSA members have won their elections. I
think we're going to have over 40 this midterm election cycle,
so that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
There's no doubt about it. The movement is real.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'm telling my audience to believe it and take it seriously.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Let me start with this.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
The DSA website recently put up praise for Fidel Castro.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
On what would have been his 100th birthday. Do you
support that?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I mean, the funny thing is, like, you know, This
is a simple question.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Do you support the praise of Fidel Castro?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
What I don't support is the embargo against Cuba right now.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I didn't ask if you supported the embargo. Come on,
answer the question. Do you praise people like, for example,
Hassan Piker, very outspoken, has praised Fidel, has praised and
even dressed up like Mao.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He doesn't hide who he is. He's proud of his beliefs.
Are you proud of your beliefs?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm very proud of my beliefs.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Okay, and you support the DSA agenda, correct?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I support the building of infrastructure, the building of the
things that we need in this country and this country,
and that's what we've been losing since 1980.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Okay, so if I'm looking for your analysis, I'll ask
for it. I'm asking, they put up praise for Fidel Castro.
Do you think that was the right decision? Do you
believe he deserves praise?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't have put it up. Why? Batista.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Why would you have not put it up?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I don't think it helps the conversation.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well, it's the DSA, and they've got 250 candidates and
40 more running this year, so it's very relevant to
the events. You know, Castro killed thousands and thousands of Cubans.
Castro confiscated the land of many, many Cuban people. There
was no more private homeownership. Castro led his country into
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utter poverty and misery.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You know that, right?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I mean, do you really want to talk about the
history of Cuba?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But it's on the DSA website. It's a simple question
that you're making hard. All right, let me go to
the DSA website. This is what they have up. They
want to eliminate the Senate and they no longer want
the American people to choose our president and they want
to pack the courts.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Do you support that platform?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
They want the American people to choose a president? Yes,
I think the Electoral College is different.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They don't want the American people to choose the president.
They want Congress to choose it. It's right up there
on their website.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
No, I think the better choice there is to do
popular vote and do away with the Electoral College.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Do you want to eliminate the Senate?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I definitely think that we should. I mean, I don't
think we should eliminate the Senate, probably, no.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Do you want to pack the judiciary with... liberal justices.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
No, actually, I want to impeach some of the ones
that have committed crimes and ones that have declared things.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Name one justice that committed a crime.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, I think Clarence Thomas is definitely edging on it.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
What crime did he commit?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Bribes. Well, I mean, he's got very close relations.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh, he got bribed by who? He got bribed by,
you made an allegation. And by the way, if you
don't have evidence, that could be slander. So I'm warning you,
you know, you're on very, very fragile legal ground here.
Who did he, who got bribed, who bribed him?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I mean, the specific name of the guy, I haven't recalled.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm not an attorney. So you don't really have evidence
that he took a bribe?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I mean, I'm not an attorney.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You're not an attorney.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So maybe you shouldn't make an allegation as serious that
a Supreme Court justice took a bribe if you don't
have any evidence, right? So I'll take that as you're
sorry and that you misspoke. You want to leave it
there so it'll.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Help you out? No.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Because you might be in legal trouble otherwise.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Harlan Crowe. We'll go with Harlan Crowe. The person that.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Harlan Crowe.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Has been very close with and has had.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And you have any evidence he took a bribe?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
We know he took money. We know he took luxury
travel gifts.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Do you have any evidence he took a bribe?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I know that he took money, yes. Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
What about amnesty for illegals and to abolish our borders
and abolish ICE? Do you support those three things? Do
you want amnesty for illegals, one, yes or no?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I think we should go with Reagan's amnesty.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And you want to abolish borders in this country?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, I think borders are useless.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So we should secure our borders and people should be
forced to come in legally?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yes, but I think we need a massive amount of.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, if you want to secure the borders and you
want people to come in legally, why would you give
the people that didn't come in legally amnesty and people
like Gavin Newsom and other sanctuary states give free health
care and other benefits?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, the reason you would do that is because people's
grandmothers depend on the money that they're paying into the
system to be able to have.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So you want to reward the law breaking with government
benefits from law abiding American taxpayers?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Well, no.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Well, that's who's going to pay for it. They entered
the country illegally. You want them to have benefits. So
you said that those benefits will be paid for by
the American people.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And you're for that. You just told me you're for that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I know it's complicated to follow a sentence. But what
I said was the people that are here working as
undocumented workers are paying for other Americans, grandparents, Social Security
and Medicare, not the people that are here in the work.
They're not going to get.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, we have with Biden over 12 million unvetted illegals
from over 200 countries. We have known terrorists, murderers, rapists,
child molesters, cartel members and gang members. How do you
distinguish between those that maybe wanted a better life and
those that have no nefarious intentions for our country?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, I mean, I think we've got a lot of
ways of doing that now. We got flock cameras everywhere.
We got illegal wiretaps going on. We got all kinds
of surveillance.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No, we don't have illegal wiretaps. You have any evidence
of that charge?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I mean, there was lots of evidence that came out
about that for years, absolutely. And we've just seen in
national security.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, that would have happened under Comey and Director Wray,
but that's a different issue.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Do you want to abolish ICE, yes or no?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, absolutely. I think we need to go back to
international security.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Do you want to defund the Department of War?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I think nothing... Let's go back to ICE. Anything that
came out of the September 11th attacks that has been
used to surveil the American citizenry.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, who's going to arrest all the drug dealers, known terrorists, murderers,
child molesters in the country if we don't have a
Department of Homeland Security that will risk their lives to
deport people.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
That don't belong here that commit more crimes here?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
What do you think we had in like 1999?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I'm asking you a question. Who else will do it?
Do you want the police to do it? Because I'm
assuming you want to defund the police, right?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
No, I do want to demilitarize the police. Like, for example,
out in the north.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So they shouldn't have a firearm with them?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, no, they shouldn't have armored personnel carriers in a
rural community.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I don't think that they can be armed on the job.
And you don't want to cut back on police spending?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No, I think we need probably a little bit more
police spending. I think the police need to be paid
more to, you know, we need to make sure that
they're not going to be corrupted.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Do you want to eliminate all cash bail?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I think that, yes, I think we definitely have to
reform that. One of the things that you see is
that people sit in detention for sometimes, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
All right.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
So you want to eliminate it. Fair answer. Thank you.
Would you like to abolish prisons?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I would love to abolish the need for them, but
I do want to abolish. private prisons as a tennessean
i'm in a place with one of.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
The largest so only you want to you'll have prisons
but as long as they're not private.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Correct sort of like all right water departments like they're
private all.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Right so um let me ask this next question this
is a big one okay so do you believe in
establishing a wealth.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Tax Yes, probably so, yeah. Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
So let's say an American has an income of $ 100, 000
of income a year. Out of every dollar they take
in after they pay state, local, federal taxes and FICA taxes,
how much of every dollar should an American worker making
$ 100, 000 be able to keep?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I would say at least $ 0. 65, $ 0. 70 probably.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
If somebody makes $ 500, 000 a year, how much out of
every dollar should they be able to keep after paying
those taxes?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Maybe, I mean, 50? I don't know what the optimal
number is.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So 50?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, let's say somebody makes over a million dollars a year.
How much should they be able to keep out of
every dollar they keep?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, we go back to Eisenhower-type rules.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I'm asking today, how much should people be able to
keep today?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They keep $ 70, 000, right? For the first $ 100, 000, they keep $ 70, 000.
For the next $ 500, 000, they keep $ 50, 000. And then for
the $ 500, 000 after that, whatever they keep. Then when they
cross the million-dollar line, I don't know, 75%, 80%? I
don't know. I mean, it's a different world now.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So they should be able to keep? So the government
should get 75% or 80%, right?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
The people. The people. I'm saying that's how much the
government takes. He's keeping 20-20. I don't know where the
lines are that we need to draw. I don't know
what the cost of living is exactly in every....
Speaker 1 (11:42):
If somebody's a billionaire, how much should they be able
to keep out of every dollar they make?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, they don't make money often.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Well, actually, they do. That's how they become billionaires. That's
money that they're making out of every dollar they make.
After they pay taxes, how much should they be able
to keep out of every dollar?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Don't make income. They make wealth. They're very different things.
People that work.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Well, no, it's money. They're making money. How much?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Stop playing cute by half. How much out of every
dollar should a billionaire be able to keep?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
What's cute? If you're thinking clearly cute.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
How much? You make over a billion. You make a
billion dollars a year. Okay. You pay state taxes, federal taxes.
You pay local taxes. You pay FICA taxes.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
After you pay all that, how much should they be
able to keep out of every dollar they make?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
If they make a billion dollars a year in income?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Not a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I mean, should they be able to keep 10 cents
out of every dollar, 5 cents.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
20 cents? Give me a number. What's fair in your mind?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
What did we have in Eisenhower? I think it was 90%
was the top.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Okay, I don't want to talk about it. I'm saying
what do you believe today? What should the number be?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
How much should a billionaire be able to keep out
of every dollar they make? Can you just answer a
freaking question?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
How much? Give me a number. Give this audience a number.
Eisenhower's number of 90% top marginal. I've already given you
that answer.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
So 90%, so they should only be able to keep
10 cents out of every dollar.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
After a million, sure.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
After a million dollars, 10 cents is all you get
to keep out of every dollar you make.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Let me tell you what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
The people that left New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey,
and moved to tax-friendly havens like Florida, Texas, and elsewhere,
guess what they're going to do?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
They're going to take their money and their businesses with them.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Because that's why all these states are losing all these
wealthy people that create jobs. Look, I worked in the
restaurant business 10 years and the construction business 10 years.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Can I tell you something? And maybe you can learn
from this, Corbin.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I never got a job, never got hired by a
poor person, never got a tip from a poor person,
never got hired to do construction work by a poor person.
So I don't have this class envy resentment. And let
me tell you one last thing before we go. To
the bottom 50% of wage earners in America, how much
of the federal tax bill do you think they pay?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
How much of the income do you think they earn?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I'm asking, how much federal tax? What percentage of the
tax do they pay?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Probably about 20%, but I think they earn less.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
No, no, less than two.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Less than two. We'll have you back. But you've got
to come and be willing to... You're just trying to play...
cute with you know oh that's woke 1.0 crazy i
don't want to really express my real points of view
because we already know you ducking and dodging and weaving
that you really believe it but you're afraid to say
it isn't that true what i.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Know is that if we're going to make america great
again we got to look at what made it great
before and the i'll tell you the vanderbilt.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
We never had socialism before we never had a new
green deal before i'll tell you what you want to
stay over for one minute i want to ask you
about the green new deal okay yeah all right corbin
corbin trent Democratic strategist, former communications director for AOC, former
aide to Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Quick break, right back. We'll continue on the other side.
Do you support Medicare for all?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Do you support universal child care?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And elder care.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
The abolition of ICE?
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
The Green New Deal?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
National rent control?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Ending the embargo on Cuba?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yes. Ending aid to Israel? Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Sanctioning Israel?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
A free Palestine?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
So the two things that we're famous for, is our
commitment to a program and our.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Hatred of the United States Constitution.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
I think we can see from each of these candidates
that they have exactly what it takes to succeed. And
we've heard from Republicans time and again that they're going
to try and make these candidates the face of the
Democratic Party. To them, I say that we are ready
for that.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
All right, we're holding over Corbyn Trent. We're having a
hard time getting straight answers out of him. He's a
Democratic strategist, former communications director for AOC.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Former aide to Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
So let me ask this question, because Democrats in the
DSA say on their website they want to establish a
wealth tax. They want to pass the Green New Deal.
They also said they want to eliminate the Senate. They
no longer want people to choose the president.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
They want to.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Pack the courts, they want amnesty for illegals, they want
to abolish borders, abolish ICE, defund the Department of War,
end all deportations, eliminate cash bail, abolish prisons and police,
establish a wealth tax, pass a Green New Deal and
public ownership of most corporations.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I want to ask you about the Green New Deal.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So the Green New Deal offers pretty much cradle to grave,
womb to the tomb, everything for everybody. And that means
guaranteed government daycare. That means guaranteed government job. That means
guaranteed government wage. That means guaranteed government healthy food. That means,
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you know, government health insurance. That means government retirement. Everybody
gets everything guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
By the government. Are you a supporter of that?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Because AOC, who you worked with, and Bernie Sanders, who
you worked with, they support it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Well, the Green New Deal actually is an industrial policy.
It's a transitional industrial policy.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Oh, my gosh. You know, you're annoying as hell. Do
you support it or not? Do you support those policies?
Do you support the Green New Deal?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I helped write the Green New Deal, and what you
described is not.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You helped write it, so you support it. Why don't
you just say, yes, Sean, I support it, and then
I'll ask you questions about it.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
What you just said ain't it. You just described something
that is not the Green New Deal. You just described
federal jobs guarantee. You just described federal housing guarantee. You
described a whole host of policies.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
It's all in the Green New Deal. Guaranteed government job.
Guaranteed government health care. Guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
government salary, guaranteed government retirement.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I mean, straight on down the line.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
There are different policies you're describing. They're not Green New Deal.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Okay, but it's part of the Green New Deal.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
If you wrote it, I would think you know it,
and you just don't want to admit it to this audience.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I'm going to admit exactly what the Green New Deal is.
It got its name from the New Deal. I grew
up in East Tennessee surrounded by the New Deal.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And everything I said is in the Green New Deal.
Do you support all those things, yes or no?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Nothing that you said is in the Green New Deal.
It's about energy.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Linda, pull up the Green New Deal. I mean, this
is ridiculous. You know, we have gone over this repeatedly.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And this is I guess you're taking on AOC's, you know, strategy.
And that is your that's woke one point. Oh, crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
We didn't really mean defund the police. So is that
you're you want to obscure who you really are because,
you know, it's untenable to win an election that way.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I put out who I really am at AmericasUndoing.com, and
every time I go on TV, man, I don't have
any problem talking about who I am whatsoever. I am
exactly who I say I am when I go out
there and talk about it.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I think you're being very obscure today, and you don't
want to answer direct questions.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
You ask me a question that is based in fundamentally
infactual things, unfactual things. I cannot answer it.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
How am I going to answer it? What part of
what I said is not in there?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That it's a big umbrella. I wrote the 17-page document
about starting a committee to investigate the ways in which
we can transition our economy from a fossil fuel-based.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Zero, it says net zero greenhouse gas emissions. Did you
support that? This is the Green New Deal. I'm reading
right from the Green New Deal. Do you support it
or not?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
No question. Yes, we absolutely need to.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Millions of good high-wage jobs and economic security for every American.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Do you support that?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Do I support millions of high-wage jobs? Well, of course
I do.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Okay. And you want to promote justice and so on
and so forth.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But all of these are in the Green New Deal
that I mentioned, but you don't really want to talk
about it.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
You know, that's long-term.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
You want.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Do you think government has done well with government-run schools?
Do you think government-run schools, we pay more per capita
than any industrialized country, and we come in 39th or
40th in terms of proficiency? Has our school system failed
our children in spite of all the money?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I went to yesterday, or the day before yesterday, I
went to my.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Has the government failed our children even though we spend
more money?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Actors have.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Has the government failed our children even though we spent
more money?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Neoliberalism has. Reaganism has. All right.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I think I made my point. You know what? You're
never going to answer a question. You sound like a
nice guy, but you know what? You're playing games. I
got to move on. My audience is too smart for this. Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But, you know, when you want to answer a question,
just you tell me and you can come back on
the show.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I mean... That's a talk right there.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Just come on the show when you're ready to answer
what you really believe instead of playing games.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Exactly what I believe.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
No, you didn't. No, you didn't want to answer a
single question.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Subcontractors have lost their ability.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
All right, I got to go. Lance in New Jersey.
What's up, Lance? Happy Friday. I tried, Lance. I tried hard.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Gracious good afternoon. He's definitely in the O zone, and
I mean, obscure.
Obstinate, and he's just obfuscating time and exasperating. But I
can call this a perfect example of a person striving
to become a babbling idiot, just like the workers throughout
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the entire country when they were building it biblically. They
all spoke a different language, but they were still trying
to get to the top. And there's nothing more disingenuous
than than people that use vocabulary words that are insipid, untruthful,
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and have no clarity whatsoever. And I bring that back
to you kept repeating the word guarantee. Can you guarantee
me your submission?
Speaker 6 (22:21):
And it's a.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Simple yes or no. And that's the most obvious thing.
And I tie that in, and I told Katie this,
I tie that.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
In to your.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
humbleness when you talk about how hard you work in
the beginning years of your career, what jobs you took.
And see, the formula, I'm a retired math and science teacher,
the formula for work is work equals force times distance.
And I try to help kids in the school work
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program understand that that's the formula in scientific. But when
you get out there and you have to just your
soft skills and your hard skills, the one thing to
keep in mind is why you're going to work. And
that's where the evaporation or the, like Mike Rowe, I
used him in my program all the time. He knows
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the deal about, and just like you, the passion of
what it is to have a work ethic. And I
changed the formula from work equals force times distance to
work equals discovery times fulfillment. If you discover... What gives
you fulfillment, you will go to work as long as
you can breathe and as long as you can share, protect, provide,
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and prepare your family for whatever comes your way. And
I just thank you for your time. And it's a
shame not one candidate on the DSA platform has the backbone,
I don't know what it would call, the essence.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
We've had a couple of people answer them straight up,
but most of them try to pull this game of
obscurity because they know here's what's happened. They've done internal research,
and in that research, they discovered this is not palpable.
The American people aren't buying it, and it's not going
to sell, so now they're going to try and hide it,
but yet these are their true beliefs.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
That's what's happening. Anyway, Lance, listen, my friend, thank you
for calling. You have a great weekend, okay?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Thank you very much, Sean. You and yours.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
You too, buddy. All right, let's say hi to Lois
in my free state of Florida. Lois, hi. How are you?
Glad you called. Oh, hi.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Yes, I'm glad I did too. And one of the
big reasons I'm calling, Sean, is to give you a
big thank you. And that's from myself, my family, my friends,
my neighbors, because you have been doing the things that
we have been begging for lately and And that is
touting Trump's policies and his accomplishments and what they're doing
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for this country, the good things that's coming from it all.
We feel like we've been just being drowned in all
the negative Democrat stuff, you know, which we need to
know that, too. But we feel like Trump's kind of
getting pushed underwater here, you know, with so much of
that being highlighted. So we need some uplifting, too, and
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some positive energy to keep us wanting to be a conservative.
So we need some backup on that and just some assurances.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So I'm going to balance it. You're right on the money.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yes, I'm going to challenge the radicalism of the left
and how dangerous it is. Look at the news today,
the Atlanta Fed forecasting forecast. Four percent growth in the
third quarter.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
We haven't seen that under Joe Biden. Trust me.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
U.S.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Business growth now hit a 52 month high so far
in August.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Pretty freaking amazing. I can go through every topic. Immigration.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
No more unvetted illegals coming into the country. ICE arrested all,
you know, all these gang members and murderers and rapists
and even some some people known terror ties. The president
signed the Halt Fentanyl Act, you know, designating these these
cartels like Trendy Aragua, MS-13 as terrorist groups. Crime, the
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lowest in one hundred and twenty five years. You're never
going to hear this on the mainstream media. No, you know,
other data. You know, violent crime down 10.6%. Murders down 23%
just in 2026 alone. You know, we got nine of
the 10 FBI's most wanted fugitives. Our military stopped Iran
(26:44):
from becoming a nuclear power. The president doesn't get credit
for that. Military recruitment up 103%. Military bases restored to
their names. We have set a record domestic oil and
gas production In 2025, we'll reach a new record this year.
President opening up millions of acres for oil, gas and
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coal production. The president played a big role in bringing
peace around the world from Cambodia, Thailand, Kosovo, Serbia, Rwanda,
the DRC, Pakistan, India, Egypt, Ethiopia, Armenia, Azerbaijan. The president
declared an official policy that we have two sexes, male
(27:26):
and female. Ban federal funding, sponsorship, promotion of chemical surgery,
mutilation of minors. You know, nobody knows this. Never mind
the Maha movement. Never mind that the president revoked, you know,
all the regulatory and DEI policies of Biden and Obama.
Most favored nation pricing agreements when it comes to prescription drugs.
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We're talking about that with Dr. Oz coming up later.
I mean, no tax on tips, overtime Social Security. He's
done a lot and he doesn't get any. He'll never
get credit in any liberal legacy media outlet ever.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
And that's the other thing is I wanted to and
then you were great with that last guest. But when
they say ICE is breaking the law, no, they're not.
There is a law on the books. It's 18 U.S.C.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
111.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
And I'd like to see those things put out there
more so you can stop people in their tracks, because
I have done that. And once you show them the law,
point it out, tell them to read it, look at it,
it's right there. They're not breaking the law. And I
like the way you said that guy, like, so how
are you going to arrest these people when they want
to get rid of the police and they want to
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get rid of all, you know, anybody that has power
like that, the ICE, the police, how are they going
to arrest people? They say they want to arrest them,
but how are they going.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
To do it?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I press hard to get straight answers. They won't give
them to me.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
The reason they won't is because they're trying to obscure
and hide what they really believe. They understand the polling
is showing them. that these stated policies are not policies
that will get them in power.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
So the way I keep.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So they lie.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
The way I expose them is when they won't answer
the question and they try to change the topic. It's
only because they don't want to tell you what they
really believe.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I'm very proud as a conservative of my beliefs. I'll
defend my beliefs. Yeah, I'll explain why I'm a conservative.
You know, one of the reasons is what I just
told you. Trump's policies are working. So, Lois, we appreciate you.
God bless you. 800-941-SHAWN is our number if you want
to be a part of the program this Friday.
Hour 2, Sean Hannity Show, toll free. It's 800-941-SEAN if
you want to be a part of this program.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
So we have gone out of our way to have
civil discussions with many. Oliver Larkin was one. A couple
of other people that we've had on. Comrade de Blasio
has been on a number of times with people that
describe themselves as democratic socialists. so that people understand that
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this is a real movement. People have very different beliefs,
for example, than I do. It's been respectful. I think
in every case, Linda, I can't think of anyone getting
out of control. But so it's a pleasure to welcome
to the program Corbyn Trent. Now, Corbyn Trent is a
Democratic strategist, a former communications director for Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
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and a former aide to Senator Bernie Sanders. And we
appreciate you taking time, Corbyn, to be with us.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Glad to be here, Sean. Glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
By the way, just so you know, I feel I've
interpreted this Fight the Oligarchy tour of Bernie and AOC,
and I think this is Bernie passing the torch of
the radical left, as I call it, socialist left, Bernie's
a communist, you know, to AOC.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Would you agree with that assessment?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Because if you look at polls now, AOC is leading
in the pack in terms of the 2028 presidential election.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Do I agree with the assessment that Bernie's a commie?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
No, do you agree with the assessment that during the
Fight the Oligarchy tour that Bernie was passing the torch,
his torch... to AOC to take up the mantle.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I don't really think it works that way in a movement.
I don't think you really get to pass the torch
so much as, you know, people grab it or it's taken.
I think definitely you're seeing.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, he chose her. He could have chosen anybody else
to be on tour with. And besides Bernie, I would
say the most effective Democratic candidate endorsers have been Bernie
and AOC.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You wouldn't disagree with that, would you?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
No, obviously that they've been very effective. I mean, they're
good at speaking to people where they're at, and they're
good at amplifying and talking about what people are feeling
and their problems. And I think they're also good at
talking about solutions. That's one of the reasons he took
her with him, because she's good at connecting to human beings.
I think it's an important part of politics, being able
to connect to people's pain and then offer solutions. And
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that's one of the things that we're seeing. That's why
this movement is getting so popular across the country.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You and I agree.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Since 2019, 250 DSA members have won their elections. I
think we're going to have over 40 this midterm election cycle,
so that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
There's no doubt about it. The movement is real.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'm telling my audience to believe it and take it seriously.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Let me start with this.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
The DSA website recently put up praise for Fidel Castro.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
On what would have been his 100th birthday. Do you
support that?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I mean, the funny thing is, like, you know, This
is a simple question.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Do you support the praise of Fidel Castro?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
What I don't support is the embargo against Cuba right now.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I didn't ask if you supported the embargo. Come on,
answer the question. Do you praise people like, for example,
Hassan Piker, very outspoken, has praised Fidel, has praised and
even dressed up like Mao.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He doesn't hide who he is. He's proud of his beliefs.
Are you proud of your beliefs?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm very proud of my beliefs.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Okay, and you support the DSA agenda, correct?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I support the building of infrastructure, the building of the
things that we need in this country and this country,
and that's what we've been losing since 1980.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Okay, so if I'm looking for your analysis, I'll ask
for it. I'm asking, they put up praise for Fidel Castro.
Do you think that was the right decision? Do you
believe he deserves praise?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't have put it up. Why? Batista.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Why would you have not put it up?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I don't think it helps the conversation.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well, it's the DSA, and they've got 250 candidates and
40 more running this year, so it's very relevant to
the events. You know, Castro killed thousands and thousands of Cubans.
Castro confiscated the land of many, many Cuban people. There
was no more private homeownership. Castro led his country into
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utter poverty and misery.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You know that, right?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I mean, do you really want to talk about the
history of Cuba?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But it's on the DSA website. It's a simple question
that you're making hard. All right, let me go to
the DSA website. This is what they have up. They
want to eliminate the Senate and they no longer want
the American people to choose our president and they want
to pack the courts.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Do you support that platform?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
They want the American people to choose a president? Yes,
I think the Electoral College is different.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
They don't want the American people to choose the president.
They want Congress to choose it. It's right up there
on their website.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
No, I think the better choice there is to do
popular vote and do away with the Electoral College.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Do you want to eliminate the Senate?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I definitely think that we should. I mean, I don't
think we should eliminate the Senate, probably, no.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Do you want to pack the judiciary with... liberal justices.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
No, actually, I want to impeach some of the ones
that have committed crimes and ones that have declared things.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Name one justice that committed a crime.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, I think Clarence Thomas is definitely edging on it.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
What crime did he commit?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Bribes. Well, I mean, he's got very close relations.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh, he got bribed by who? He got bribed by,
you made an allegation. And by the way, if you
don't have evidence, that could be slander. So I'm warning you,
you know, you're on very, very fragile legal ground here.
Who did he, who got bribed, who bribed him?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I mean, the specific name of the guy, I haven't recalled.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm not an attorney. So you don't really have evidence
that he took a bribe?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I mean, I'm not an attorney.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You're not an attorney.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So maybe you shouldn't make an allegation as serious that
a Supreme Court justice took a bribe if you don't
have any evidence, right? So I'll take that as you're
sorry and that you misspoke. You want to leave it
there so it'll.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Help you out? No.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Because you might be in legal trouble otherwise.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Harlan Crowe. We'll go with Harlan Crowe. The person that.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Harlan Crowe.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Has been very close with and has had.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And you have any evidence he took a bribe?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
We know he took money. We know he took luxury
travel gifts.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Do you have any evidence he took a bribe?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I know that he took money, yes. Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
What about amnesty for illegals and to abolish our borders
and abolish ICE? Do you support those three things? Do
you want amnesty for illegals, one, yes or no?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I think we should go with Reagan's amnesty.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And you want to abolish borders in this country?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, I think borders are useless.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So we should secure our borders and people should be
forced to come in legally?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yes, but I think we need a massive amount of.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, if you want to secure the borders and you
want people to come in legally, why would you give
the people that didn't come in legally amnesty and people
like Gavin Newsom and other sanctuary states give free health
care and other benefits?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, the reason you would do that is because people's
grandmothers depend on the money that they're paying into the
system to be able to have.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So you want to reward the law breaking with government
benefits from law abiding American taxpayers?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
No.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Well, no.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Well, that's who's going to pay for it. They entered
the country illegally. You want them to have benefits. So
you said that those benefits will be paid for by
the American people.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And you're for that. You just told me you're for that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I know it's complicated to follow a sentence. But what
I said was the people that are here working as
undocumented workers are paying for other Americans, grandparents, Social Security
and Medicare, not the people that are here in the work.
They're not going to get.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, we have with Biden over 12 million unvetted illegals
from over 200 countries. We have known terrorists, murderers, rapists,
child molesters, cartel members and gang members. How do you
distinguish between those that maybe wanted a better life and
those that have no nefarious intentions for our country?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Well, I mean, I think we've got a lot of
ways of doing that now. We got flock cameras everywhere.
We got illegal wiretaps going on. We got all kinds
of surveillance.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No, we don't have illegal wiretaps. You have any evidence
of that charge?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I mean, there was lots of evidence that came out
about that for years, absolutely. And we've just seen in
national security.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, that would have happened under Comey and Director Wray,
but that's a different issue.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Do you want to abolish ICE, yes or no?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yeah, absolutely. I think we need to go back to
international security.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Do you want to defund the Department of War?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I think nothing... Let's go back to ICE. Anything that
came out of the September 11th attacks that has been
used to surveil the American citizenry.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, who's going to arrest all the drug dealers, known terrorists, murderers,
child molesters in the country if we don't have a
Department of Homeland Security that will risk their lives to
deport people.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
That don't belong here that commit more crimes here?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
What do you think we had in like 1999?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I'm asking you a question. Who else will do it?
Do you want the police to do it? Because I'm
assuming you want to defund the police, right?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
No, I do want to demilitarize the police. Like, for example,
out in the north.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So they shouldn't have a firearm with them?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, no, they shouldn't have armored personnel carriers in a
rural community.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I don't think that they can be armed on the job.
And you don't want to cut back on police spending?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No, I think we need probably a little bit more
police spending. I think the police need to be paid
more to, you know, we need to make sure that
they're not going to be corrupted.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Do you want to eliminate all cash bail?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I think that, yes, I think we definitely have to
reform that. One of the things that you see is
that people sit in detention for sometimes, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
All right.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
So you want to eliminate it. Fair answer. Thank you.
Would you like to abolish prisons?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I would love to abolish the need for them, but
I do want to abolish. private prisons as a tennessean
i'm in a place with one of.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
The largest so only you want to you'll have prisons
but as long as they're not private.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Correct sort of like all right water departments like they're
private all.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Right so um let me ask this next question this
is a big one okay so do you believe in
establishing a wealth.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Tax Yes, probably so, yeah. Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
So let's say an American has an income of $ 100, 000
of income a year. Out of every dollar they take
in after they pay state, local, federal taxes and FICA taxes,
how much of every dollar should an American worker making
$ 100, 000 be able to keep?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I would say at least $ 0. 65, $ 0. 70 probably.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
If somebody makes $ 500, 000 a year, how much out of
every dollar should they be able to keep after paying
those taxes?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Maybe, I mean, 50? I don't know what the optimal
number is.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So 50?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, let's say somebody makes over a million dollars a year.
How much should they be able to keep out of
every dollar they keep?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, we go back to Eisenhower-type rules.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I'm asking today, how much should people be able to
keep today?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
They keep $ 70, 000, right? For the first $ 100, 000, they keep $ 70, 000.
For the next $ 500, 000, they keep $ 50, 000. And then for
the $ 500, 000 after that, whatever they keep. Then when they
cross the million-dollar line, I don't know, 75%, 80%? I
don't know. I mean, it's a different world now.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So they should be able to keep? So the government
should get 75% or 80%, right?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
The people. The people. I'm saying that's how much the
government takes. He's keeping 20-20. I don't know where the
lines are that we need to draw. I don't know
what the cost of living is exactly in every....
Speaker 1 (11:42):
If somebody's a billionaire, how much should they be able
to keep out of every dollar they make?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, they don't make money often.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Well, actually, they do. That's how they become billionaires. That's
money that they're making out of every dollar they make.
After they pay taxes, how much should they be able
to keep out of every dollar?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Don't make income. They make wealth. They're very different things.
People that work.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Well, no, it's money. They're making money. How much?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Stop playing cute by half. How much out of every
dollar should a billionaire be able to keep?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
What's cute? If you're thinking clearly cute.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
How much? You make over a billion. You make a
billion dollars a year. Okay. You pay state taxes, federal taxes.
You pay local taxes. You pay FICA taxes.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
After you pay all that, how much should they be
able to keep out of every dollar they make?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
If they make a billion dollars a year in income?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Not a lot.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I mean, should they be able to keep 10 cents
out of every dollar, 5 cents.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
20 cents? Give me a number. What's fair in your mind?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
What did we have in Eisenhower? I think it was 90%
was the top.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Okay, I don't want to talk about it. I'm saying
what do you believe today? What should the number be?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
How much should a billionaire be able to keep out
of every dollar they make? Can you just answer a
freaking question?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
How much? Give me a number. Give this audience a number.
Eisenhower's number of 90% top marginal. I've already given you
that answer.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
So 90%, so they should only be able to keep
10 cents out of every dollar.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
After a million, sure.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
After a million dollars, 10 cents is all you get
to keep out of every dollar you make.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Let me tell you what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
The people that left New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey,
and moved to tax-friendly havens like Florida, Texas, and elsewhere,
guess what they're going to do?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
They're going to take their money and their businesses with them.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Because that's why all these states are losing all these
wealthy people that create jobs. Look, I worked in the
restaurant business 10 years and the construction business 10 years.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Can I tell you something? And maybe you can learn
from this, Corbin.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I never got a job, never got hired by a
poor person, never got a tip from a poor person,
never got hired to do construction work by a poor person.
So I don't have this class envy resentment. And let
me tell you one last thing before we go. To
the bottom 50% of wage earners in America, how much
of the federal tax bill do you think they pay?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
How much of the income do you think they earn?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I'm asking, how much federal tax? What percentage of the
tax do they pay?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Probably about 20%, but I think they earn less.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
No, no, less than two.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Less than two. We'll have you back. But you've got
to come and be willing to... You're just trying to play...
cute with you know oh that's woke 1.0 crazy i
don't want to really express my real points of view
because we already know you ducking and dodging and weaving
that you really believe it but you're afraid to say
it isn't that true what i.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Know is that if we're going to make america great
again we got to look at what made it great
before and the i'll tell you the vanderbilt.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
We never had socialism before we never had a new
green deal before i'll tell you what you want to
stay over for one minute i want to ask you
about the green new deal okay yeah all right corbin
corbin trent Democratic strategist, former communications director for AOC, former
aide to Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Quick break, right back. We'll continue on the other side.
Do you support Medicare for all?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Do you support universal child care?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And elder care.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
The abolition of ICE?
Speaker 6 (15:14):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
The Green New Deal?
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
National rent control?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Ending the embargo on Cuba?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yes. Ending aid to Israel? Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Sanctioning Israel?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
A free Palestine?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
So the two things that we're famous for, is our
commitment to a program and our.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Hatred of the United States Constitution.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
I think we can see from each of these candidates
that they have exactly what it takes to succeed. And
we've heard from Republicans time and again that they're going
to try and make these candidates the face of the
Democratic Party. To them, I say that we are ready
for that.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
All right, we're holding over Corbyn Trent. We're having a
hard time getting straight answers out of him. He's a
Democratic strategist, former communications director for AOC.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Former aide to Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
So let me ask this question, because Democrats in the
DSA say on their website they want to establish a
wealth tax. They want to pass the Green New Deal.
They also said they want to eliminate the Senate. They
no longer want people to choose the president.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
They want to.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Pack the courts, they want amnesty for illegals, they want
to abolish borders, abolish ICE, defund the Department of War,
end all deportations, eliminate cash bail, abolish prisons and police,
establish a wealth tax, pass a Green New Deal and
public ownership of most corporations.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I want to ask you about the Green New Deal.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So the Green New Deal offers pretty much cradle to grave,
womb to the tomb, everything for everybody. And that means
guaranteed government daycare. That means guaranteed government job. That means
guaranteed government wage. That means guaranteed government healthy food. That means,
(16:58):
you know, government health insurance. That means government retirement. Everybody
gets everything guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
By the government. Are you a supporter of that?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Because AOC, who you worked with, and Bernie Sanders, who
you worked with, they support it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Well, the Green New Deal actually is an industrial policy.
It's a transitional industrial policy.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Oh, my gosh. You know, you're annoying as hell. Do
you support it or not? Do you support those policies?
Do you support the Green New Deal?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I helped write the Green New Deal, and what you
described is not.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You helped write it, so you support it. Why don't
you just say, yes, Sean, I support it, and then
I'll ask you questions about it.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
What you just said ain't it. You just described something
that is not the Green New Deal. You just described
federal jobs guarantee. You just described federal housing guarantee. You
described a whole host of policies.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
It's all in the Green New Deal. Guaranteed government job.
Guaranteed government health care. Guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
government salary, guaranteed government retirement.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I mean, straight on down the line.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
There are different policies you're describing. They're not Green New Deal.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Okay, but it's part of the Green New Deal.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
If you wrote it, I would think you know it,
and you just don't want to admit it to this audience.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I'm going to admit exactly what the Green New Deal is.
It got its name from the New Deal. I grew
up in East Tennessee surrounded by the New Deal.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And everything I said is in the Green New Deal.
Do you support all those things, yes or no?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Nothing that you said is in the Green New Deal.
It's about energy.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Linda, pull up the Green New Deal. I mean, this
is ridiculous. You know, we have gone over this repeatedly.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And this is I guess you're taking on AOC's, you know, strategy.
And that is your that's woke one point. Oh, crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
We didn't really mean defund the police. So is that
you're you want to obscure who you really are because,
you know, it's untenable to win an election that way.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I put out who I really am at AmericasUndoing.com, and
every time I go on TV, man, I don't have
any problem talking about who I am whatsoever. I am
exactly who I say I am when I go out
there and talk about it.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I think you're being very obscure today, and you don't
want to answer direct questions.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
You ask me a question that is based in fundamentally
infactual things, unfactual things. I cannot answer it.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
How am I going to answer it? What part of
what I said is not in there?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That it's a big umbrella. I wrote the 17-page document
about starting a committee to investigate the ways in which
we can transition our economy from a fossil fuel-based.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Zero, it says net zero greenhouse gas emissions. Did you
support that? This is the Green New Deal. I'm reading
right from the Green New Deal. Do you support it
or not?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
No question. Yes, we absolutely need to.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Millions of good high-wage jobs and economic security for every American.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Do you support that?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Do I support millions of high-wage jobs? Well, of course
I do.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Okay. And you want to promote justice and so on
and so forth.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But all of these are in the Green New Deal
that I mentioned, but you don't really want to talk
about it.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
You know, that's long-term.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
You want.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Do you think government has done well with government-run schools?
Do you think government-run schools, we pay more per capita
than any industrialized country, and we come in 39th or
40th in terms of proficiency? Has our school system failed
our children in spite of all the money?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I went to yesterday, or the day before yesterday, I
went to my.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Has the government failed our children even though we spend
more money?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Actors have.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Has the government failed our children even though we spent
more money?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Neoliberalism has. Reaganism has. All right.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I think I made my point. You know what? You're
never going to answer a question. You sound like a
nice guy, but you know what? You're playing games. I
got to move on. My audience is too smart for this. Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But, you know, when you want to answer a question,
just you tell me and you can come back on
the show.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I mean... That's a talk right there.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Just come on the show when you're ready to answer
what you really believe instead of playing games.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Exactly what I believe.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
No, you didn't. No, you didn't want to answer a
single question.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Subcontractors have lost their ability.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
All right, I got to go. Lance in New Jersey.
What's up, Lance? Happy Friday. I tried, Lance. I tried hard.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Gracious good afternoon. He's definitely in the O zone, and
I mean, obscure.
Obstinate, and he's just obfuscating time and exasperating. But I
can call this a perfect example of a person striving
to become a babbling idiot, just like the workers throughout
(21:52):
the entire country when they were building it biblically. They
all spoke a different language, but they were still trying
to get to the top. And there's nothing more disingenuous
than than people that use vocabulary words that are insipid, untruthful,
(22:12):
and have no clarity whatsoever. And I bring that back
to you kept repeating the word guarantee. Can you guarantee
me your submission?
Speaker 6 (22:21):
And it's a.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Simple yes or no. And that's the most obvious thing.
And I tie that in, and I told Katie this,
I tie that.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
In to your.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
humbleness when you talk about how hard you work in
the beginning years of your career, what jobs you took.
And see, the formula, I'm a retired math and science teacher,
the formula for work is work equals force times distance.
And I try to help kids in the school work
(22:52):
program understand that that's the formula in scientific. But when
you get out there and you have to just your
soft skills and your hard skills, the one thing to
keep in mind is why you're going to work. And
that's where the evaporation or the, like Mike Rowe, I
used him in my program all the time. He knows
(23:13):
the deal about, and just like you, the passion of
what it is to have a work ethic. And I
changed the formula from work equals force times distance to
work equals discovery times fulfillment. If you discover... What gives
you fulfillment, you will go to work as long as
you can breathe and as long as you can share, protect, provide,
(23:37):
and prepare your family for whatever comes your way. And
I just thank you for your time. And it's a
shame not one candidate on the DSA platform has the backbone,
I don't know what it would call, the essence.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
We've had a couple of people answer them straight up,
but most of them try to pull this game of
obscurity because they know here's what's happened. They've done internal research,
and in that research, they discovered this is not palpable.
The American people aren't buying it, and it's not going
to sell, so now they're going to try and hide it,
but yet these are their true beliefs.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
That's what's happening. Anyway, Lance, listen, my friend, thank you
for calling. You have a great weekend, okay?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Thank you very much, Sean. You and yours.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
You too, buddy. All right, let's say hi to Lois
in my free state of Florida. Lois, hi. How are you?
Glad you called. Oh, hi.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Yes, I'm glad I did too. And one of the
big reasons I'm calling, Sean, is to give you a
big thank you. And that's from myself, my family, my friends,
my neighbors, because you have been doing the things that
we have been begging for lately and And that is
touting Trump's policies and his accomplishments and what they're doing
(24:53):
for this country, the good things that's coming from it all.
We feel like we've been just being drowned in all
the negative Democrat stuff, you know, which we need to
know that, too. But we feel like Trump's kind of
getting pushed underwater here, you know, with so much of
that being highlighted. So we need some uplifting, too, and
(25:17):
some positive energy to keep us wanting to be a conservative.
So we need some backup on that and just some assurances.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So I'm going to balance it. You're right on the money.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yes, I'm going to challenge the radicalism of the left
and how dangerous it is. Look at the news today,
the Atlanta Fed forecasting forecast. Four percent growth in the
third quarter.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
We haven't seen that under Joe Biden. Trust me.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
U.S.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Business growth now hit a 52 month high so far
in August.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Pretty freaking amazing. I can go through every topic. Immigration.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
No more unvetted illegals coming into the country. ICE arrested all,
you know, all these gang members and murderers and rapists
and even some some people known terror ties. The president
signed the Halt Fentanyl Act, you know, designating these these
cartels like Trendy Aragua, MS-13 as terrorist groups. Crime, the
(26:23):
lowest in one hundred and twenty five years. You're never
going to hear this on the mainstream media. No, you know,
other data. You know, violent crime down 10.6%. Murders down 23%
just in 2026 alone. You know, we got nine of
the 10 FBI's most wanted fugitives. Our military stopped Iran
(26:44):
from becoming a nuclear power. The president doesn't get credit
for that. Military recruitment up 103%. Military bases restored to
their names. We have set a record domestic oil and
gas production In 2025, we'll reach a new record this year.
President opening up millions of acres for oil, gas and
(27:06):
coal production. The president played a big role in bringing
peace around the world from Cambodia, Thailand, Kosovo, Serbia, Rwanda,
the DRC, Pakistan, India, Egypt, Ethiopia, Armenia, Azerbaijan. The president
declared an official policy that we have two sexes, male
(27:26):
and female. Ban federal funding, sponsorship, promotion of chemical surgery,
mutilation of minors. You know, nobody knows this. Never mind
the Maha movement. Never mind that the president revoked, you know,
all the regulatory and DEI policies of Biden and Obama.
Most favored nation pricing agreements when it comes to prescription drugs.
(27:50):
We're talking about that with Dr. Oz coming up later.
I mean, no tax on tips, overtime Social Security. He's
done a lot and he doesn't get any. He'll never
get credit in any liberal legacy media outlet ever.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
And that's the other thing is I wanted to and
then you were great with that last guest. But when
they say ICE is breaking the law, no, they're not.
There is a law on the books. It's 18 U.S.C.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
111.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
And I'd like to see those things put out there
more so you can stop people in their tracks, because
I have done that. And once you show them the law,
point it out, tell them to read it, look at it,
it's right there. They're not breaking the law. And I
like the way you said that guy, like, so how
are you going to arrest these people when they want
to get rid of the police and they want to
(28:42):
get rid of all, you know, anybody that has power
like that, the ICE, the police, how are they going
to arrest people? They say they want to arrest them,
but how are they going.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
To do it?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I press hard to get straight answers. They won't give
them to me.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
The reason they won't is because they're trying to obscure
and hide what they really believe. They understand the polling
is showing them. that these stated policies are not policies
that will get them in power.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
So the way I keep.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So they lie.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
The way I expose them is when they won't answer
the question and they try to change the topic. It's
only because they don't want to tell you what they
really believe.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I'm very proud as a conservative of my beliefs. I'll
defend my beliefs. Yeah, I'll explain why I'm a conservative.
You know, one of the reasons is what I just
told you. Trump's policies are working. So, Lois, we appreciate you.
God bless you. 800-941-SHAWN is our number if you want
to be a part of the program this Friday.
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