July 7, 2026 • 33 mins
Jason Chaffetz opens the final hour by criticizing California’s racial mascot law and Gavin Newsom’s handling of state priorities. Mike Howell of the Oversight Project joins to discuss the Supreme Court’s birthright citizenship ruling and policy options for limiting illegal immigration and birth tourism. Howell argues for stronger deportation enforcement, visa screening, family-unit deportations, and new financial or legal deterrents for people seeking birthright citizenship benefits. Chaffetz also discusses China’s use of U.S. territories and visa loopholes, ICE enforcement practices, and the need for clearer immigration numbers from the Trump administration. Later, John Sapiente of Volition America joins to discuss patriotic apparel, Folds of Honor, military families, and support for veterans. The hour closes with listener discussion about Mitch McConnell, congressional incapacity, staff authority, and how a Senate vacancy would be handled.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm Jason Chapin's filling in for Sean Hannity.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Honored to do so.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We got a lot to come in this last hour
of Hannity. We're gonna kick things off with Mike Callan.
We're going to talk immigration. But in the spirit of
understanding that there's always somebody doing something stupid somewhere, I
have to give a minute or two here to Gavin Newsom,
the governor of California. Last year, actually in twenty twenty four,
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he signed a law in California. It's called the California
Racial Mascot Act.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All the problems, all the challenges, everything that's happening in California, homelessness,
the drug problem, I mean, fires like, all the things
going on, and the State Assembly, what do they do
they come up with a California Racial Mascot Act. Well,
in Mary's Vale, Mary Vale's High School, they have been
the Indians for more than a hundred years. For more
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than one hundred years, they've been the Indians. But now
they're being pushed out to retire the Indians mascot after
one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
This was not to disparage them. It's the fact that
they're offering pride in support for them, and so they're
trying to get the tribes and what not to do
the right thing in the Mary's Veil. Mary's Veil Joint
Unified School District Superintendent Jordan Reeves said the Mary Vale's
Joint Unified Unified School District Board of Trustees recognizes the
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deep history and tradition. It's a stupid fight, folks, all
the things going on. Governor, you got to sign this legislation.
Now you've got to pick on this Maryvale Very Very
Veil High School to get rid of their mascot. There
you got bigger problems to deal with. Stop picking on
it. It's so stupid. There's always somebody doing something stupid somewhere.
(01:53):
All right, let's talk about another stupid ruling. I mean
things that just tick you off. Just I cannot believe
we're in this position. The United States of America is
the most sought after country in the world. They are
trying to break into this country. We're the only ones.
Do you know of any other country they're trying to
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break into. No, it's because we have created something special
over two hundred and fifty years. We have the right,
the need the imperative to have a secure border. But
the idea that somebody from I don't know, pick your country.
I'm not trying to pick on one. Any country, well,
I don't care if it's Poland, China, Guatemala, or Iceland,
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that you can just come here, get here across the border,
have a baby, and suddenly you've got a citizen. That
is absurd. It is one of the most offensive rulings
that I have seen yet come out of the out
of the Supreme Court. It puts us back in the
essentially the same position where we were before. But we
got to be able to do something about it. So
that's why I'm excited to bring on the president of
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the Open Site Project, Mike Howell. Now full disclosure, when
I was in the Oversight Committee and I was a
chairman of the Oversight Project, the Oversight Committee, Mike worked there,
and now I do some work for the Oversight Project.
And but Mike, as the President, has been leading a
charge to just say, you know what, all right, we're
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gonna have to deal with the reality of this ruling.
But what can we do as Americans to fight back
against this the surge of illegal immigration?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And what do we do what can we do under
the laws.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So, Mike Cowell, thanks so much for joining us on handity.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Great to be on with you.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You get fired up about this, I get fired up
on It's okay. We hate the ruling. A lot of
people hate the ruling. I guess some people like it.
I don't know, but some people, but most people just
think it's absurd, it is not common sense. And they're
more with Clarence Thomas than they are with some of
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the other justices. So what do we do, Mike, where
are we going?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
What do we do next?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, there's a lot that can be done, thankfully. I mean,
the ruling is what it is. It's a bad decision
from the Supreme Court, basically cementing the loophole that has
already existed, you know, for a while, and it's been
taking advantage of for a long time. I mean, birthright
citizenship berths are up quite a bit. I mean, the
issue of anchor babies did not start just last week
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when the Supreme Court came down with their ruling. The
problem is, it's just not going to change the Supreme
Court for a long time. So you have to address
and you know where I'm going with this the root
causes you cannot have an anchor baby as an illegal
alien if you're not in the United States. Kind of
common sense, right, And so the easiest way to mitigate
the damage from the Supreme Court's ruling is to get
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illegals out of the United States. Obviously, President Trump has
done pretty good job of not letting them in in
the first place by securing the border. But it now
turns to the question and of deportation, particularly of those
who are likely to have children, you know, family units.
And so we're encouraging the Trump administration to really redouble
their commitments to the mass deportation agenda, get the numbers
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up with commas in them because they should be in
the millions, and particularly to look at enforcement actions against
an illegal alien who has an anchor baby child, because
it's that illegal alien doesn't get amnesty by virtue of
having the kid. They can still go home, and in
more circumstances than not, they'll take their kid with them.
And so that's one quick way to to mitigate it.
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And then there's a lot that can be done on
the legal immigration and you know visa side of making
sure that basically you just aren't letting people come in
for these purposes and you know, things such as taxes
for you know, births, or bonds that women visiting the
United States can commit to, and then other sort of
screening mechanisms. I think we can mitigate away the worst
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fears of this decision, but that's not to say this
isn't an awful decision.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So my understanding is if you come on on visas
on a visa, and they're more than ninety different visas,
so you've got to be careful about just making a
sweeping generalization. But my understanding is that the form that
you fill out is that you do not anticipate some
medical procedure. And yet what we found is through a
lot of good research from Peter Schweitzer, and he talked
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a lot about this about how China has been manipulating this.
They actually run billboards and have trainings on how to
go have a baby in the United States and then
bring it back to the United States and bring it
back to China and then they're a US citizen. Then
once they become a citizen, then you can get your
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parents get preferential treatment. I mean you basically kind of
get three for one, and so but part of that
is that there's a form that you fill out, a
testing that you don't anticipate. Basically, you're saying that you
don't think that you're so how do they either come
here illegally, which is illegal, right, illegal to be in
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the country illegally, and how do you actually lie on
a form that too can be prosecuted, right.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That, that's absolutely right, And it's basically the same issue
we have with registration to vote. It's the honor system,
if you recall, you know, in the lead up to
the twenty twenty four election, a lot of attention was
given to the fact that's when illegals go for their
driver's license to the DMV, there is a box there
that says, check you know if you're basically you know
that you're a US citizen, and of course they check it,
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so they get registered to vote. And that's what a
lot of the concerns that were laid right now to
the say that and so forth are about. And so
the same proposition that we should have an honor system
for something as critical as voting should apply to the
largely unpolished area of just relying on an attest station
from somebody who has the intent they seek to conceal
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getting a little loyally here to come to this country
to have a baby, and so it needs to be
actual sitfguards and enforcement. And a lot of people have
pointing to the fact that this is already on the
books and the Immigration and Naturalization Actor would not require
new law. It would require new enforcement techniques. And we're
getting in obviously an uncomfortable area because you're talking about
the practical reality of how do you screen somebody for
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if they're pregnant or not. Well. First is you know,
you can kind of tell if they're like far enough along,
and you know, our officers at the conflicts and you know,
adjudicating these visa should use a little bit of common sense.
I'm sure that's been beaten out of them in our
politically correct day and age, but it's time to you know,
use the two eyes and ears that God gave you
and just know if this person is coming in that's
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you know, about to burst with the belly. Another you know,
way that they could do it is you know the
issuance of bonds. You know, uh, basically, if you want
to come in here due to the extreme risk that
you know, us taking care of you know, your US
to be citizen child. We want you to invest some
money up front into deposit accounts that that you're not
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going to get back unless you know you do not
have a baby. It seems absurd, but we're dealing with
an absurd Supreme Court case. And so you basically have
somebody putting down a bond before they even step put
into the US. And there are a lot of other
ways that you can do this. I mean, in the
legal immigration system, there's something called the public charge test,
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where we basically ask, you know, people who want to
come to the United States to prove that they're economically
stable and they won't go on welfare. Some of the
same types of what a critical call invasive questioning. But
you know what, there should be some pretty serious questions
for you get led into the country should apply and
be tailored to sussing out whether somebody is coming here
for the intent to basically derive all the benefits that
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would be given to their child and then in connection
downstream to them by virtue of having an illegal birth
in the United States, which then becomes an anchor baby
birth and illegal birth. Under our beautiful Supreme Court, recent decision.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Part of where some countries, particularly China, have been taking
advantage are going to our US territories.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And so if you really look at you know, the
Mariana Islands for instance, and others, they they you you're
born there, you're you're a US citizen. You you get
a uh you'r US passport and everything else. And so
you got to look at that. Because the proximity to
China is easier, people probably aren't paying as much of
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attention uh as if they are at some of these
territories as opposed to if they were you know, flying
in and going to Texas. But again, still you you've
talked about this idea, this concept of keeping families together.
Planned explain what you mean by that.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, so we're we're borrowing the phraseology of the left,
who has you know, declared that it is their intent
that the immigration system and it's enforcement always keeps families together. Right.
That was the big scandal of the Trump administration. How
dare you separate a family? And you might recall how
when you know Trump was running for re election, Tom
Helmet did that sixty minutes interview and he suggested, well,
(11:06):
we can deport the whole family together. We're not going
to tear them apart. That's you know, the retort to
the Democrats charge that you can never deport a parent
even they're here illegally because of break up.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
A family unit.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
So let's apply that to a hypothetical in the United
States as it relates to birthright citizen. So you have
an illegal alien that's here in the legal alien you know,
would be mom and dad, and they have a child.
The child then is the US citizen by virtue of
the Supreme Court decisions affirmation. Then a couple things should happen.
One is using and this would require new legislation, but
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that could be done in reconciliation. You tax the birth
and associated costs on the parents. And guess what the
Supreme Court said when they wouldn't, you know, take out Obamacare.
They said healthcare can be viewed as a tax. So
we got some good case off from our friends on
the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
There.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
The next thing you do is you make them a priority,
the parents for deportation. You have ice with you know,
eyes and ears and sources at the hospitals of their
birthing centers. This is something that's on their deep much
in the way they focus now on worst of the
worst criminals, they should also be focused on you know,
parents who are seeking to have children are emily about
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to have them, ideally to get them reported before they
have the children and they get some more roots in
this country. But say they do have the child, there
is nothing that gives legal status to the illegal alien parents.
And so what you do is you get them is
out of the country as soon as possible, with every
encouragement to take their baby with them before roots can
be placed down. I think this would have the practical
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effects of turning off a lot of the benefits that
people seek to derive from the anchor baby you know loophole.
And then also it is a high density kind of
enforcement style operation. You know. One of the reasons why
numbers are lacking a little bit now is because the
you know, Department of Home mad Security is playing onesies
and twosies chasing around you know, you know, violent criminals,
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which has its own merit for sure, but those are
one off operations. When you start looking at things like
you know, family units, those are obviously grouping. So you
get the numbers of deportations up. The same principle applies
to kind of works that enforcement you go to where
there's high concentrations of illegal aliens in this you know,
and Fox News I refer to it as you know,
the illegal alien lobby has gained weapons of mass reproduction,
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and that's what it's really. It's about reproducing the gains
derived from illegal immigration across new generations. That's just not
something we should allow as a country. And it can
be achieved through enforcement and policy framework that recognizes that
there are things we can do to mitigate this. And yes,
that might not seem politically correct to all, but I
think more Americans are waking up to the absurdities of
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some of the loopholes in our immigration law, with the
birthright citizenship decision being one of them.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, I can having been out with Ice, there's nothing
more infuriating than watching them go in make an arrest
somebody who is not only here el but done something else,
and then leaving the family behind instead of keeping that
family together intact. Why aren't they checking? And I think
they have cause to go and look at the rest
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of the family and the people in that house.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But they rarely do that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That's why the immigration numbers are down and that's quite frankly,
the Trump administration is not releasing good quality numbers about
what's actually going on there.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I wish they would do more there.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Mike Howell, the president of the Oversight Project, thanks so
much for joining us on Hannity. I'm Jason Chafitz filling
in for Sean talking some tough talk about immigration. We
got a lot more coming up. Stay with us. We'll
be right back.
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Speaker 2 (15:37):
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Speaker 1 (15:38):
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The entire state of Florida was that close. He almost
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Speaker 2 (15:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Unfortunately, sad for him, he's been arrested on drug charges.
He's had some problems and some challenges, but this clown
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point four percent of the vote. Every vote does matter.
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Speaker 6 (17:03):
This is the Sean Hannity.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Show, and I'm Jason Chaffit's villain in for Sean. And
as I like to say, there's always somebody doing something
stupid somewhere, you know. I'm thinking of Senator Mark Kelly
wearing the Mexican jersey to a World Cup watch party.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
You're a United States senator, your team is about to
play the next day. It's the day after July fourth,
and you're at a party wearing a Mexican jersey. Yikes,
I cannot like it. Just bothers me. I'm not from Arizona.
I lived there once upon a time for a while
for a spell. But that still just bothers me. But
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like I said, there's always somebody doing something stupid somewhere.
But you know, on the opposite end, the other end
of the coin, you got people who do really smart,
good things. They're good, decent people who actually want the
best for the United States of America, and they pour
their heart, art, and soul and their life's work into that.
And I'm thrilled to be joined by John Sapiente, who
(18:06):
is one of those guys. He's a Chicago business owner, entrepreneur.
I've never met or chatted with him, but I hear
nothing but good things. And I got to tell you
that I I love his clothes, and that sounds kind
of weird, but he's the founder and CEO of Volition America,
you know. I John, thank you so much for joining
(18:28):
us on Hannity. I have sent you a lot of money,
not a lot, but a bunch of money because I
just love the Volition America clothing. It's just awesome. So
thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, thanks for having me on, and thanks for supporting
the brand. I didn't know you were supporting us.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Oh yeah, I mean I support the brand, but you know,
I wanted to get some red, white and blue in
my in my portfolio of clothing, and you got these
great pullovers and got the flag on it like a
legit flag, not some stamp to print on there, and
it was it's good stuff. So anyway, thanks so much
for joining us on Hannity, and thanks for your support.
(19:07):
Or troops are military and just America in general, tell
us what you've been doing on that front.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I got involved in Folds of Honor about thirteen years ago.
Folds of Honor says, for your listeners, is a scholarship
to give scholarships to the fallen soldiers first responder families.
So I was really just a donor to a charity
and the founder of Lieutenant Colonel Dan Roney, had an
idea for a clothing brand that celebrated America in a
positive way. So we Volition America. Volition is the power choice.
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So it's Choose America. It's a very non political brand.
It's you know, we celebrate choices, we celebrate coming together.
We tell people we're not red and we're not blue
or red, white and blue. So we're trying to empower
people to come together. And on top of that, we
give back and every purchase to help our fallen soldiers'
families and our first responder families through education.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Now you also did a jeep giveaway, right did you
give it away? Do we know who the winner is
yet or is this still open?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
We did today We gave away a jeep to Jeff Samuels,
who was a Navy seal for seventeen years and he
spent his life even after service, giving back and still
put in service before self. It was really really surprised
him today. So it pretty neat to be able to
take one of our heroes like that and just shock
them and thank them for what they've done.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I'm guessing he did seventeen years as a seal. He's
going to be pretty excited to be driving a jeep.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Where did? Can you tell me what Stadi lives in?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
He's in Florida.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
So we actually kind of tricked him and told him
we had a fulls of Honor thing we'd like to
him to attend today at breakfast. So he thought he
was coming to help us with a fulls of Honor event.
And then someone came and asked asked him he could
help unload a car, and he came out the front
and we had the jeep there and we filmed the
whole Thingnique.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Awesome, Well we'll look for that online.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I love guys like you, step up, do the right thing.
Where where does this come from? Like did you grow
up like that? Did your parents instill this India? Like
where their love of country of the red, white and blue?
Where did that come from?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I've always loved their country. I took it for granted
my whole life. And then I was invited.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I hate admitting this.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Live on air for the world to hear, but I
bought a round of golf with a professional golf by
the name of Craig Stadler at a cheer. I wanted
to play golf with lorus and so I didn't know
that I was playing in a program a Memorial Day
and I spent the weekend with the troops and their families.
And I walked out of there like, holy cow, how
are we not doing more to help these people and
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their families because they do a ton for us? And
I personally took Memorial Day for granted for forty five years,
and so I had a little bit of a patriotic
awakening and then I just kind of, you know, I
was my thing, and I went all in and said
I need to help educate America on why these people
need our help. And it's just grown from there and snowballed.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Where do people go to find what you're doing, what
you're you know, how can they help? Because I think
they're my My theory on this, John is a lot
of people want to help, they don't necessarily know where.
There's a lot of scams out there on you know,
online and social media, but then there's some real legitimate
stuff out there, like your organization.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Where did they go to find it?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Well?
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Volitionamerica dot Com is our e commerce platform. Every purchase
you make, a percentage goes back to Folds of Honor
or you can donate directly too, Folds of Honor from there.
Fulls of Honor, just so you know, is three hundred
million dollars out the door since inception, seventy three thousand
scholarships and ninety one cents in the dollar goes to
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the recipient. So it's a world mess organization. And so yeah,
we decided that we wanted to build gear, clothing, apparel
that you could put on and the logo and what
you're wearing stood for something, So it's not your typical
cheesy flag shirt. It's stuff you want to wear. We
have amazing brand partners with Puma, Cobra A, Luminox, Boasts,
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Girka and Ri Also we have a lot of big
collabse to go with it. But it's really high quality stuff.
And the logo. I don't know if you looked at
the logo, but the center of it is the folded
flag and we took and put wings on it with
the idea we can pick it up and take it
place as it couldn't go. And that's the idea, and
to educate America and unite America through you know, in
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a cool, cool way, cool subtle way.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Now you know the recipient of your generosity and your love. Really,
that's the way I read it is it's not only
love of country, but the people who step up and
do what you know, the answer the call they you know, however,
they whatever their story is, to join the military. Then
they're out there serving and it's hard and it's difficult,
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and you're away from your family or you're serving overseas.
We got hundreds of thousands of people right now overseas.
What would you say, what can what can we do?
What else can those people that are actually in those
military families do.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Well.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I mean, if they need help, they can. Fold of
Honor is a great vehicle for them, which is really
an amazing thing. But as Americans, it was dawn on
me that I just how many people take for granted
what they do. Just same thank you is an amazing
thing that you could do for everything they do and
really recognize what we all get to live this life,
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do this radio show, do all these things because of
the sacrifices they've made. And I would love for America
to understand that and then make a choice to help them.
You know, our whole brand is about the power of
evolition and the power to make better choices. So as Americans,
my goal is, can we celebrate country in a positive
way and let's help the families that allow us to
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love this great country, this great life.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, it's so true.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
You know, throughout the show, we've had a Navy Seal,
we had a Medal of Honor recipient. We've been talking
about people who've served. Lee Zelden was on. He served
in our United States military. My father in law served
in Vietnam, my father served in the Air Force. I
kind of feel like, Gosh, aren't it? What's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You know, like.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I what can I do in my part? And you know,
it's interesting when I've talked to people who are in
the military or certainly like I would consider older veterans
and that sort of thing, and they're like, you know what,
love your country, enjoy have a family like it, use
all the freedoms and exercise all those liberties that we
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all fought for. So you may not have actually fought
or served overseas or done this out or that, but
you can still make your country better without even putting
on the uniform. And it was a very generous thing
for them to say. But I also, you know, I
think it's I think it's true, and I think a
lot of people I worry that this younger generation they
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don't really have a concept, they haven't really felt it.
I felt like, and this is just me on my
soapbox a little bit, John, but I felt like, you know,
after nine to eleven and after some other tragedies, the
message of oh, just keep going to the mall, just
keep living your life, maybe wasn't the best message because
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I think having a shared sacrifice and understanding the dangers
that lurk around the corners is also part of understanding
and creating a love of country.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I Mean the thing about America to me is we
celebrate it in a negative manner. Maybe that's because it's polarizing. Things.
We hear all day about how bad stuff is, and
I think we're getting all the good stuff that goes
on in this country. And that's you know, who am
I to go out and say I'm going to preach America?
And you know, I'm just a guy. But if we
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all take the choice of hey, let's get rid of
the negative noise, let's focus on some of the good,
we still got stuff to fix as the country. I'm
not going to argue that they're smart ideas that come
from both sides of the aisle. I mean, look at
your story. It's amazing. I mean you were objective and
listening to what you you know, whatever side you end
up on, your objective and you were listening. And that's
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the country's built on that. And that's what I want
to see come back, is that people are choosing to
respect others and choosing to come together and choosing to
recognize a lot of the good things that you can.
You know, it's hardly work. The more successful you can be,
and there's no ceiling to what you can do, what
a great thing. You can't do that in a lot
of countries, and so that's you know, I'm lucky to
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be able to do this. I never intended to do this,
you know, it's just a It was a favorite of
Colonel Rooney to help this start this brand with him,
and I had no idea that that was going to
be my you know thing. That became my passion to
help the country. And that's what I want everyone in
your listeners to just use your volition and come. Let's
let's come together there.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
We're talking, of course with John Sepiente t who's the
owner and founder and CEO of Volition America doing good
things in all the right places. Last comment that I
wanted to make about this, when you talk about, you know,
our country and how unique and different we are, I'll
tell you a quick story. I was chairman of the oversight.
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I hadn't been I didn't become the chairman of oversight,
but I was investigating the Bengazi attacks and behind closed doors,
we had reason to question and interact with the Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs, and I thought, here I am,
I'm a member of Congress, and here's the Chairman of
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the Joint Chiefs. And I was nobody's ever really seen
me or heard me like this. I was yelling at
the guy because I was so distraught. I was so frustrated,
was so mad at the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
And I was telling him, I said, you know, I'm
just I'm a rookie, I'm a member of Congress, I'm
from Utah, I'm not in the military, and how is
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it that I know more about what happened to be
Ghazi than you did? But I wasn't saying it's so nice.
And I was really laying into this guy. And afterwards
he shook my hand and we talked about it, and
I thought, you know, what an amazing country that hopefully
nothing was going to happen to me, and nothing did.
But where else in the world can you speak truth
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to power chairman of Joint Chiefs and you're yelling, pointing
a finger mad you know. I wouldn't say swearing, but
it felt like that. And I thought, what a great
country and what an amazing thing that I can be
elected by In this case, the third Congressional District of
Utah and be tearing into the chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
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We are self critical in this nation, but that's because
we love the country, and we love the military, and
we love our freedoms and liberties and want to fight
for the people who fight for us. That's such a
unique thing. It was certainly a major impression upon me
in my life. So on last word to you as
we wrap this up. Yeah, So, I don't know if
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you had any reaction to that, but I just want
to say thank you for all you're doing in volition
in America and for joining us on handed.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
You do appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Thank you so much for having me, and thank you
for all you guys do, and thank you for all
the proud military that's honoring us and taking care of us.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
One eight ninety four one seven, three two six. We'll
take some calls right after this.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Ell.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Are you know now? Say my name Sewan Handity.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
You're damn right, And this is the Shoan Handedy Show.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
All right, let's go out right to the phones. Let's
go to line for Scott in Florida. Scott, what are
you thinking about?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Jason good talking to you. Quick question, Ms McConnell's replacement,
what's the protocol on that on getting another replacement in
there when he's gone? And then Seanhannityshow dot Com has
center Rick Scott Analona scamming a hotel out of over
three hundred thousand dollars in hurricane funding during Hurricane Aleen.
(31:45):
I wanted to know if you had any information on that.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I don't on that's a ladder question, but let's go
to the first one. Because if a senator is incapacitated
or a house member, or you know, there's a duty,
there's an obligate and maybe it needs to be more
solidified in law, but you need the family, and you
certainly need the staff. The staff should not be taking
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actions that I do believe would be in violation of
the law, whether that be helping to vote or issue letters,
something on his letter head. If any of that is
happening without the express permission of a senator or house member,
that is a violation of law. That is fraud that
should be prosecuted. And I think we're getting dangerously close
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in a couple of different cases where this may or
may not have been happening. So it also is highly suspicion,
highly suspicious that Senator McConnell's wife goes to China. That
begs a big question. I wish we had more time
to talk about it, Scott. It would come down to
him stepping down and then the governor's stepping up. That's
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the short of it. I'm Jason Chafitz filling in for
Sean Hannity. Sean, thank you, thank you, thank you for
letting me fill in, and you're in for your show.
I truly appreciate it. Kind of great staff here make
it easy. Thank you God, bless America, the greatest country.
I'm Jason Chapin's filling in for Sean Hannity.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Honored to do so.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We got a lot to come in this last hour
of Hannity. We're gonna kick things off with Mike Callan.
We're going to talk immigration. But in the spirit of
understanding that there's always somebody doing something stupid somewhere, I
have to give a minute or two here to Gavin Newsom,
the governor of California. Last year, actually in twenty twenty four,
(00:27):
he signed a law in California. It's called the California
Racial Mascot Act.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
All the problems, all the challenges, everything that's happening in California, homelessness,
the drug problem, I mean, fires like, all the things
going on, and the State Assembly, what do they do
they come up with a California Racial Mascot Act. Well,
in Mary's Vale, Mary Vale's High School, they have been
the Indians for more than a hundred years. For more
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than one hundred years, they've been the Indians. But now
they're being pushed out to retire the Indians mascot after
one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
This was not to disparage them. It's the fact that
they're offering pride in support for them, and so they're
trying to get the tribes and what not to do
the right thing in the Mary's Veil. Mary's Veil Joint
Unified School District Superintendent Jordan Reeves said the Mary Vale's
Joint Unified Unified School District Board of Trustees recognizes the
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deep history and tradition. It's a stupid fight, folks, all
the things going on. Governor, you got to sign this legislation.
Now you've got to pick on this Maryvale Very Very
Veil High School to get rid of their mascot. There
you got bigger problems to deal with. Stop picking on
it. It's so stupid. There's always somebody doing something stupid somewhere.
(01:53):
All right, let's talk about another stupid ruling. I mean
things that just tick you off. Just I cannot believe
we're in this position. The United States of America is
the most sought after country in the world. They are
trying to break into this country. We're the only ones.
Do you know of any other country they're trying to
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break into. No, it's because we have created something special
over two hundred and fifty years. We have the right,
the need the imperative to have a secure border. But
the idea that somebody from I don't know, pick your country.
I'm not trying to pick on one. Any country, well,
I don't care if it's Poland, China, Guatemala, or Iceland,
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that you can just come here, get here across the border,
have a baby, and suddenly you've got a citizen. That
is absurd. It is one of the most offensive rulings
that I have seen yet come out of the out
of the Supreme Court. It puts us back in the
essentially the same position where we were before. But we
got to be able to do something about it. So
that's why I'm excited to bring on the president of
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the Open Site Project, Mike Howell. Now full disclosure, when
I was in the Oversight Committee and I was a
chairman of the Oversight Project, the Oversight Committee, Mike worked there,
and now I do some work for the Oversight Project.
And but Mike, as the President, has been leading a
charge to just say, you know what, all right, we're
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gonna have to deal with the reality of this ruling.
But what can we do as Americans to fight back
against this the surge of illegal immigration?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And what do we do what can we do under
the laws.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
So, Mike Cowell, thanks so much for joining us on handity.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Great to be on with you.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You get fired up about this, I get fired up
on It's okay. We hate the ruling. A lot of
people hate the ruling. I guess some people like it.
I don't know, but some people, but most people just
think it's absurd, it is not common sense. And they're
more with Clarence Thomas than they are with some of
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the other justices. So what do we do, Mike, where
are we going?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
What do we do next?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, there's a lot that can be done, thankfully. I mean,
the ruling is what it is. It's a bad decision
from the Supreme Court, basically cementing the loophole that has
already existed, you know, for a while, and it's been
taking advantage of for a long time. I mean, birthright
citizenship berths are up quite a bit. I mean, the
issue of anchor babies did not start just last week
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when the Supreme Court came down with their ruling. The
problem is, it's just not going to change the Supreme
Court for a long time. So you have to address
and you know where I'm going with this the root
causes you cannot have an anchor baby as an illegal
alien if you're not in the United States. Kind of
common sense, right, And so the easiest way to mitigate
the damage from the Supreme Court's ruling is to get
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illegals out of the United States. Obviously, President Trump has
done pretty good job of not letting them in in
the first place by securing the border. But it now
turns to the question and of deportation, particularly of those
who are likely to have children, you know, family units.
And so we're encouraging the Trump administration to really redouble
their commitments to the mass deportation agenda, get the numbers
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up with commas in them because they should be in
the millions, and particularly to look at enforcement actions against
an illegal alien who has an anchor baby child, because
it's that illegal alien doesn't get amnesty by virtue of
having the kid. They can still go home, and in
more circumstances than not, they'll take their kid with them.
And so that's one quick way to to mitigate it.
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And then there's a lot that can be done on
the legal immigration and you know visa side of making
sure that basically you just aren't letting people come in
for these purposes and you know, things such as taxes
for you know, births, or bonds that women visiting the
United States can commit to, and then other sort of
screening mechanisms. I think we can mitigate away the worst
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fears of this decision, but that's not to say this
isn't an awful decision.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So my understanding is if you come on on visas
on a visa, and they're more than ninety different visas,
so you've got to be careful about just making a
sweeping generalization. But my understanding is that the form that
you fill out is that you do not anticipate some
medical procedure. And yet what we found is through a
lot of good research from Peter Schweitzer, and he talked
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a lot about this about how China has been manipulating this.
They actually run billboards and have trainings on how to
go have a baby in the United States and then
bring it back to the United States and bring it
back to China and then they're a US citizen. Then
once they become a citizen, then you can get your
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parents get preferential treatment. I mean you basically kind of
get three for one, and so but part of that
is that there's a form that you fill out, a
testing that you don't anticipate. Basically, you're saying that you
don't think that you're so how do they either come
here illegally, which is illegal, right, illegal to be in
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the country illegally, and how do you actually lie on
a form that too can be prosecuted, right.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
That, that's absolutely right, And it's basically the same issue
we have with registration to vote. It's the honor system,
if you recall, you know, in the lead up to
the twenty twenty four election, a lot of attention was
given to the fact that's when illegals go for their
driver's license to the DMV, there is a box there
that says, check you know if you're basically you know
that you're a US citizen, and of course they check it,
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so they get registered to vote. And that's what a
lot of the concerns that were laid right now to
the say that and so forth are about. And so
the same proposition that we should have an honor system
for something as critical as voting should apply to the
largely unpolished area of just relying on an attest station
from somebody who has the intent they seek to conceal
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getting a little loyally here to come to this country
to have a baby, and so it needs to be
actual sitfguards and enforcement. And a lot of people have
pointing to the fact that this is already on the
books and the Immigration and Naturalization Actor would not require
new law. It would require new enforcement techniques. And we're
getting in obviously an uncomfortable area because you're talking about
the practical reality of how do you screen somebody for
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if they're pregnant or not. Well. First is you know,
you can kind of tell if they're like far enough along,
and you know, our officers at the conflicts and you know,
adjudicating these visa should use a little bit of common sense.
I'm sure that's been beaten out of them in our
politically correct day and age, but it's time to you know,
use the two eyes and ears that God gave you
and just know if this person is coming in that's
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you know, about to burst with the belly. Another you know,
way that they could do it is you know the
issuance of bonds. You know, uh, basically, if you want
to come in here due to the extreme risk that
you know, us taking care of you know, your US
to be citizen child. We want you to invest some
money up front into deposit accounts that that you're not
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going to get back unless you know you do not
have a baby. It seems absurd, but we're dealing with
an absurd Supreme Court case. And so you basically have
somebody putting down a bond before they even step put
into the US. And there are a lot of other
ways that you can do this. I mean, in the
legal immigration system, there's something called the public charge test,
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where we basically ask, you know, people who want to
come to the United States to prove that they're economically
stable and they won't go on welfare. Some of the
same types of what a critical call invasive questioning. But
you know what, there should be some pretty serious questions
for you get led into the country should apply and
be tailored to sussing out whether somebody is coming here
for the intent to basically derive all the benefits that
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would be given to their child and then in connection
downstream to them by virtue of having an illegal birth
in the United States, which then becomes an anchor baby
birth and illegal birth. Under our beautiful Supreme Court, recent decision.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Part of where some countries, particularly China, have been taking
advantage are going to our US territories.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And so if you really look at you know, the
Mariana Islands for instance, and others, they they you you're
born there, you're you're a US citizen. You you get
a uh you'r US passport and everything else. And so
you got to look at that. Because the proximity to
China is easier, people probably aren't paying as much of
(10:26):
attention uh as if they are at some of these
territories as opposed to if they were you know, flying
in and going to Texas. But again, still you you've
talked about this idea, this concept of keeping families together.
Planned explain what you mean by that.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, so we're we're borrowing the phraseology of the left,
who has you know, declared that it is their intent
that the immigration system and it's enforcement always keeps families together. Right.
That was the big scandal of the Trump administration. How
dare you separate a family? And you might recall how
when you know Trump was running for re election, Tom
Helmet did that sixty minutes interview and he suggested, well,
(11:06):
we can deport the whole family together. We're not going
to tear them apart. That's you know, the retort to
the Democrats charge that you can never deport a parent
even they're here illegally because of break up.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
A family unit.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
So let's apply that to a hypothetical in the United
States as it relates to birthright citizen. So you have
an illegal alien that's here in the legal alien you know,
would be mom and dad, and they have a child.
The child then is the US citizen by virtue of
the Supreme Court decisions affirmation. Then a couple things should happen.
One is using and this would require new legislation, but
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that could be done in reconciliation. You tax the birth
and associated costs on the parents. And guess what the
Supreme Court said when they wouldn't, you know, take out Obamacare.
They said healthcare can be viewed as a tax. So
we got some good case off from our friends on
the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
There.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
The next thing you do is you make them a priority,
the parents for deportation. You have ice with you know,
eyes and ears and sources at the hospitals of their
birthing centers. This is something that's on their deep much
in the way they focus now on worst of the
worst criminals, they should also be focused on you know,
parents who are seeking to have children are emily about
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to have them, ideally to get them reported before they
have the children and they get some more roots in
this country. But say they do have the child, there
is nothing that gives legal status to the illegal alien parents.
And so what you do is you get them is
out of the country as soon as possible, with every
encouragement to take their baby with them before roots can
be placed down. I think this would have the practical
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effects of turning off a lot of the benefits that
people seek to derive from the anchor baby you know loophole.
And then also it is a high density kind of
enforcement style operation. You know. One of the reasons why
numbers are lacking a little bit now is because the
you know, Department of Home mad Security is playing onesies
and twosies chasing around you know, you know, violent criminals,
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which has its own merit for sure, but those are
one off operations. When you start looking at things like
you know, family units, those are obviously grouping. So you
get the numbers of deportations up. The same principle applies
to kind of works that enforcement you go to where
there's high concentrations of illegal aliens in this you know,
and Fox News I refer to it as you know,
the illegal alien lobby has gained weapons of mass reproduction,
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and that's what it's really. It's about reproducing the gains
derived from illegal immigration across new generations. That's just not
something we should allow as a country. And it can
be achieved through enforcement and policy framework that recognizes that
there are things we can do to mitigate this. And yes,
that might not seem politically correct to all, but I
think more Americans are waking up to the absurdities of
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some of the loopholes in our immigration law, with the
birthright citizenship decision being one of them.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, I can having been out with Ice, there's nothing
more infuriating than watching them go in make an arrest
somebody who is not only here el but done something else,
and then leaving the family behind instead of keeping that
family together intact. Why aren't they checking? And I think
they have cause to go and look at the rest
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of the family and the people in that house.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But they rarely do that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That's why the immigration numbers are down and that's quite frankly,
the Trump administration is not releasing good quality numbers about
what's actually going on there.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I wish they would do more there.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Mike Howell, the president of the Oversight Project, thanks so
much for joining us on Hannity. I'm Jason Chafitz filling
in for Sean talking some tough talk about immigration. We
got a lot more coming up. Stay with us. We'll
be right back.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
The Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
A thermonuclear mm Mayossault.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
On Baby News. Hannity is on right now.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Andrew Gillim remember him. He was the mayor of Tallahassee.
He ran for governor of Florida against Ronda Santis.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
RONDEA.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Santis was coming out of being a member of Congress.
I sard with him there. This is back in the
twenty eighteen gubernatorial election.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
He lost.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Andrew Gillim lost the race by just thirty four thousand votes.
The entire state of Florida was that close. He almost
pulled it off.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Well.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Unfortunately, sad for him, he's been arrested on drug charges.
He's had some problems and some challenges, but this clown
was that close to becoming the governor, and they were
already talking about. Oufi becomes the governor, he'll become the
president thirty four thousand votes in the entire state of Florida. Fortunately,
Iran DeSantis pulls that one out, winning with just zero
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point four percent of the vote. Every vote does matter.
Stay with us. We're going to be right back with
more of handy Y coming up after this.
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Speaker 6 (17:03):
This is the Sean Hannity.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Show, and I'm Jason Chaffit's villain in for Sean. And
as I like to say, there's always somebody doing something
stupid somewhere, you know. I'm thinking of Senator Mark Kelly
wearing the Mexican jersey to a World Cup watch party.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
You're a United States senator, your team is about to
play the next day. It's the day after July fourth,
and you're at a party wearing a Mexican jersey. Yikes,
I cannot like it. Just bothers me. I'm not from Arizona.
I lived there once upon a time for a while
for a spell. But that still just bothers me. But
(17:44):
like I said, there's always somebody doing something stupid somewhere.
But you know, on the opposite end, the other end
of the coin, you got people who do really smart,
good things. They're good, decent people who actually want the
best for the United States of America, and they pour
their heart, art, and soul and their life's work into that.
And I'm thrilled to be joined by John Sapiente, who
(18:06):
is one of those guys. He's a Chicago business owner, entrepreneur.
I've never met or chatted with him, but I hear
nothing but good things. And I got to tell you
that I I love his clothes, and that sounds kind
of weird, but he's the founder and CEO of Volition America,
you know. I John, thank you so much for joining
(18:28):
us on Hannity. I have sent you a lot of money,
not a lot, but a bunch of money because I
just love the Volition America clothing. It's just awesome. So
thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, thanks for having me on, and thanks for supporting
the brand. I didn't know you were supporting us.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Oh yeah, I mean I support the brand, but you know,
I wanted to get some red, white and blue in
my in my portfolio of clothing, and you got these
great pullovers and got the flag on it like a
legit flag, not some stamp to print on there, and
it was it's good stuff. So anyway, thanks so much
for joining us on Hannity, and thanks for your support.
(19:07):
Or troops are military and just America in general, tell
us what you've been doing on that front.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I got involved in Folds of Honor about thirteen years ago.
Folds of Honor says, for your listeners, is a scholarship
to give scholarships to the fallen soldiers first responder families.
So I was really just a donor to a charity
and the founder of Lieutenant Colonel Dan Roney, had an
idea for a clothing brand that celebrated America in a
positive way. So we Volition America. Volition is the power choice.
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So it's Choose America. It's a very non political brand.
It's you know, we celebrate choices, we celebrate coming together.
We tell people we're not red and we're not blue
or red, white and blue. So we're trying to empower
people to come together. And on top of that, we
give back and every purchase to help our fallen soldiers'
families and our first responder families through education.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Now you also did a jeep giveaway, right did you
give it away? Do we know who the winner is
yet or is this still open?
Speaker 4 (20:06):
We did today We gave away a jeep to Jeff Samuels,
who was a Navy seal for seventeen years and he
spent his life even after service, giving back and still
put in service before self. It was really really surprised
him today. So it pretty neat to be able to
take one of our heroes like that and just shock
them and thank them for what they've done.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I'm guessing he did seventeen years as a seal. He's
going to be pretty excited to be driving a jeep.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Where did? Can you tell me what Stadi lives in?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
He's in Florida.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
So we actually kind of tricked him and told him
we had a fulls of Honor thing we'd like to
him to attend today at breakfast. So he thought he
was coming to help us with a fulls of Honor event.
And then someone came and asked asked him he could
help unload a car, and he came out the front
and we had the jeep there and we filmed the
whole Thingnique.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Awesome, Well we'll look for that online.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I love guys like you, step up, do the right thing.
Where where does this come from? Like did you grow
up like that? Did your parents instill this India? Like
where their love of country of the red, white and blue?
Where did that come from?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I've always loved their country. I took it for granted
my whole life. And then I was invited.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I hate admitting this.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Live on air for the world to hear, but I
bought a round of golf with a professional golf by
the name of Craig Stadler at a cheer. I wanted
to play golf with lorus and so I didn't know
that I was playing in a program a Memorial Day
and I spent the weekend with the troops and their families.
And I walked out of there like, holy cow, how
are we not doing more to help these people and
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their families because they do a ton for us? And
I personally took Memorial Day for granted for forty five years,
and so I had a little bit of a patriotic
awakening and then I just kind of, you know, I
was my thing, and I went all in and said
I need to help educate America on why these people
need our help. And it's just grown from there and snowballed.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Where do people go to find what you're doing, what
you're you know, how can they help? Because I think
they're my My theory on this, John is a lot
of people want to help, they don't necessarily know where.
There's a lot of scams out there on you know,
online and social media, but then there's some real legitimate
stuff out there, like your organization.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Where did they go to find it?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Well?
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Volitionamerica dot Com is our e commerce platform. Every purchase
you make, a percentage goes back to Folds of Honor
or you can donate directly too, Folds of Honor from there.
Fulls of Honor, just so you know, is three hundred
million dollars out the door since inception, seventy three thousand
scholarships and ninety one cents in the dollar goes to
(22:50):
the recipient. So it's a world mess organization. And so yeah,
we decided that we wanted to build gear, clothing, apparel
that you could put on and the logo and what
you're wearing stood for something, So it's not your typical
cheesy flag shirt. It's stuff you want to wear. We
have amazing brand partners with Puma, Cobra A, Luminox, Boasts,
(23:13):
Girka and Ri Also we have a lot of big
collabse to go with it. But it's really high quality stuff.
And the logo. I don't know if you looked at
the logo, but the center of it is the folded
flag and we took and put wings on it with
the idea we can pick it up and take it
place as it couldn't go. And that's the idea, and
to educate America and unite America through you know, in
(23:35):
a cool, cool way, cool subtle way.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Now you know the recipient of your generosity and your love. Really,
that's the way I read it is it's not only
love of country, but the people who step up and
do what you know, the answer the call they you know, however,
they whatever their story is, to join the military. Then
they're out there serving and it's hard and it's difficult,
(24:00):
and you're away from your family or you're serving overseas.
We got hundreds of thousands of people right now overseas.
What would you say, what can what can we do?
What else can those people that are actually in those
military families do.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Well.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I mean, if they need help, they can. Fold of
Honor is a great vehicle for them, which is really
an amazing thing. But as Americans, it was dawn on
me that I just how many people take for granted
what they do. Just same thank you is an amazing
thing that you could do for everything they do and
really recognize what we all get to live this life,
(24:36):
do this radio show, do all these things because of
the sacrifices they've made. And I would love for America
to understand that and then make a choice to help them.
You know, our whole brand is about the power of
evolition and the power to make better choices. So as Americans,
my goal is, can we celebrate country in a positive
way and let's help the families that allow us to
(24:57):
love this great country, this great life.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, it's so true.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
You know, throughout the show, we've had a Navy Seal,
we had a Medal of Honor recipient. We've been talking
about people who've served. Lee Zelden was on. He served
in our United States military. My father in law served
in Vietnam, my father served in the Air Force. I
kind of feel like, Gosh, aren't it? What's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You know, like.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I what can I do in my part? And you know,
it's interesting when I've talked to people who are in
the military or certainly like I would consider older veterans
and that sort of thing, and they're like, you know what,
love your country, enjoy have a family like it, use
all the freedoms and exercise all those liberties that we
(25:44):
all fought for. So you may not have actually fought
or served overseas or done this out or that, but
you can still make your country better without even putting
on the uniform. And it was a very generous thing
for them to say. But I also, you know, I
think it's I think it's true, and I think a
lot of people I worry that this younger generation they
(26:04):
don't really have a concept, they haven't really felt it.
I felt like, and this is just me on my
soapbox a little bit, John, but I felt like, you know,
after nine to eleven and after some other tragedies, the
message of oh, just keep going to the mall, just
keep living your life, maybe wasn't the best message because
(26:24):
I think having a shared sacrifice and understanding the dangers
that lurk around the corners is also part of understanding
and creating a love of country.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I Mean the thing about America to me is we
celebrate it in a negative manner. Maybe that's because it's polarizing. Things.
We hear all day about how bad stuff is, and
I think we're getting all the good stuff that goes
on in this country. And that's you know, who am
I to go out and say I'm going to preach America?
And you know, I'm just a guy. But if we
(26:56):
all take the choice of hey, let's get rid of
the negative noise, let's focus on some of the good,
we still got stuff to fix as the country. I'm
not going to argue that they're smart ideas that come
from both sides of the aisle. I mean, look at
your story. It's amazing. I mean you were objective and
listening to what you you know, whatever side you end
up on, your objective and you were listening. And that's
(27:18):
the country's built on that. And that's what I want
to see come back, is that people are choosing to
respect others and choosing to come together and choosing to
recognize a lot of the good things that you can.
You know, it's hardly work. The more successful you can be,
and there's no ceiling to what you can do, what
a great thing. You can't do that in a lot
of countries, and so that's you know, I'm lucky to
(27:40):
be able to do this. I never intended to do this,
you know, it's just a It was a favorite of
Colonel Rooney to help this start this brand with him,
and I had no idea that that was going to
be my you know thing. That became my passion to
help the country. And that's what I want everyone in
your listeners to just use your volition and come. Let's
let's come together there.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
We're talking, of course with John Sepiente t who's the
owner and founder and CEO of Volition America doing good
things in all the right places. Last comment that I
wanted to make about this, when you talk about, you know,
our country and how unique and different we are, I'll
tell you a quick story. I was chairman of the oversight.
(28:23):
I hadn't been I didn't become the chairman of oversight,
but I was investigating the Bengazi attacks and behind closed doors,
we had reason to question and interact with the Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs, and I thought, here I am,
I'm a member of Congress, and here's the Chairman of
(28:45):
the Joint Chiefs. And I was nobody's ever really seen
me or heard me like this. I was yelling at
the guy because I was so distraught. I was so frustrated,
was so mad at the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
And I was telling him, I said, you know, I'm
just I'm a rookie, I'm a member of Congress, I'm
from Utah, I'm not in the military, and how is
(29:08):
it that I know more about what happened to be
Ghazi than you did? But I wasn't saying it's so nice.
And I was really laying into this guy. And afterwards
he shook my hand and we talked about it, and
I thought, you know, what an amazing country that hopefully
nothing was going to happen to me, and nothing did.
But where else in the world can you speak truth
(29:29):
to power chairman of Joint Chiefs and you're yelling, pointing
a finger mad you know. I wouldn't say swearing, but
it felt like that. And I thought, what a great
country and what an amazing thing that I can be
elected by In this case, the third Congressional District of
Utah and be tearing into the chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
(29:50):
We are self critical in this nation, but that's because
we love the country, and we love the military, and
we love our freedoms and liberties and want to fight
for the people who fight for us. That's such a
unique thing. It was certainly a major impression upon me
in my life. So on last word to you as
we wrap this up. Yeah, So, I don't know if
(30:12):
you had any reaction to that, but I just want
to say thank you for all you're doing in volition
in America and for joining us on handed.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
You do appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Thank you so much for having me, and thank you
for all you guys do, and thank you for all
the proud military that's honoring us and taking care of us.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
One eight ninety four one seven, three two six. We'll
take some calls right after this.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Ell.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
Are you know now? Say my name Sewan Handity.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
You're damn right, And this is the Shoan Handedy Show.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
All right, let's go out right to the phones. Let's
go to line for Scott in Florida. Scott, what are
you thinking about?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Jason good talking to you. Quick question, Ms McConnell's replacement,
what's the protocol on that on getting another replacement in
there when he's gone? And then Seanhannityshow dot Com has
center Rick Scott Analona scamming a hotel out of over
three hundred thousand dollars in hurricane funding during Hurricane Aleen.
(31:45):
I wanted to know if you had any information on that.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I don't on that's a ladder question, but let's go
to the first one. Because if a senator is incapacitated
or a house member, or you know, there's a duty,
there's an obligate and maybe it needs to be more
solidified in law, but you need the family, and you
certainly need the staff. The staff should not be taking
(32:10):
actions that I do believe would be in violation of
the law, whether that be helping to vote or issue letters,
something on his letter head. If any of that is
happening without the express permission of a senator or house member,
that is a violation of law. That is fraud that
should be prosecuted. And I think we're getting dangerously close
(32:31):
in a couple of different cases where this may or
may not have been happening. So it also is highly suspicion,
highly suspicious that Senator McConnell's wife goes to China. That
begs a big question. I wish we had more time
to talk about it, Scott. It would come down to
him stepping down and then the governor's stepping up. That's
(32:54):
the short of it. I'm Jason Chafitz filling in for
Sean Hannity. Sean, thank you, thank you, thank you for
letting me fill in, and you're in for your show.
I truly appreciate it. Kind of great staff here make
it easy. Thank you God, bless America, the greatest country.
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