April 2, 2026 • 27 mins
Guest host Mark Simone takes on the biggest political and legal stories driving the national conversation, from Pam Bondi’s abrupt exit to the growing fight over birthright citizenship. With sharp commentary and a fast-moving pace, this hour breaks down the Supreme Court drama, media backlash, and the broader clash over law, power, and accountability in Washington. The conversation also explores how politics, public perception, and institutional pressure shape the future of the country. John Tillman joins the program to discuss his new book, The Political Vice, and why conservatives believe the cultural and political fight is bigger than elections alone. This episode is packed with legal, political, and media analysis for listeners who want a clearer picture of where the country stands. Fans of strong conservative talk radio and breaking political commentary will not want to miss this hour of The Sean Hannity Show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, whose glasses are these? I don't like these, Chuck Schumer. Sean, No,
Sean wouldn't wear these. These are definitely Chuck Schumer. Old
Lady Specials here. Hey, it's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity.
Normally I'm on our big flagship station here in New
York w R. I'm on. You know, I'm on ten
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to noon. Linda. You know who's now on before me? Who?
Oh you know Curtis Sliwa.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh, yes, I did hear about that.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Indeed, are buddy Curtis now working at war every morning,
and that's great. Linda's here in the studio, I.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Am, And how could I miss you? I have to
be here when you're here.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
There you go. And we got lots to get to today.
We'll get to Pam Bondy. We'll get to Tiger Woods,
we'll get to Bruce Springsteen, we'll get to the ballroom,
we'll get to a ran and a whole lot more.
And well, first the big news. Pam Bondy is out.
She's out. From what I hear, she's already back in Florida.
She left quickly. And you know, yesterday the President went
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to the Supreme Court to sit in on the hearing,
and Pam Bondi went with them, so they were riding
there in the car together. They rode back to the
White House in the car together in the beast. And
you know eve been in that beast. It's very tight
inside there.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Have you been in the Beast?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah? Not with the president, but you know it's bombproof
and bulletproof. The way they do that, the doors, the walls,
everything is like a foot thick, so inside there's like
two feet of room missing in there. So when he
was with Pam Bondi, you're like right on top of
each other. Must have been a little uncomfortable. He must
have known then he was going to get rid of her.
You think he said anything then? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Absolutely, Really you think he said Donald Trump? Absolutely, he's
not holding that in. He'd be like, listen, Pam, you're wonderful,
but our time has come to you.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You think he told her yesterday?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes, I think he said to you, listen, the hammer's
coming tomorrow. Wear a good suit, do your hair and makeup.
Get ready. They're going to come at you.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Interesting thought. You don't think he'd try to soften it up, like, hey,
you must really miss Florida.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Right, I don't think that soft is in his vocabulary.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Uh well, I guess sometimes sometimes I don't know. So
she's back in Florida, and as she was very good.
She was a great Attorney General of Florida, really really good.
I think she just got in, uh, went up one
step too high. That can happen. It happens in the
radio business. You might be a local host in whatever
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city and you're number one, you're the best radio host
in your city. But what, Linda, you'll attest to this.
Once in a while, you get called, we're gonna let
you fill in for Sean Hannity. Now you're on a
network at seven hundred stations, you're talking to twenty million people,
and the guy chokes. You've seen that happen, right.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I had somebody fill in they shall remain nameless. And
they came in and they had papers and papers and
notes and notes and more papers and more notes, and
I said, I'm going to tell you right now, you're
not reading from those papers and you're not using those notes,
and if you use them, I will set them on fire. Yeah,
they thought I was kidding. I said those notes on
fire during the break.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, So if you're a local host, you come here
and you get very intimidated. The perfect person have there
is Linda yelling at.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You, very comforting.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
That's exactly what you need. Terrified out of your mind
and you got this. Just let me get through this
screaming it so now, but I've seen it happen a
million times. You know the guy on I'm trying not
to mention a city because that might indicate a host,
but you know he's from that city in the Midwest.
He hosts the local Afternoon. She's great. Now he's filling
in for Hannity. There's millions of I mean there's literally
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literally like eighteen nineteen million people listening. And he's used
to his little studio. Look at that control room. There's
like four thousand computers in there. There's a it's intimidating,
so he freezes up or he's not as good. He
makes mistakes, takes a certain person to fill in here,
like me, somebody who couldn't care less.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I was like, you're the perfect person.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Hit does off in the middle of it. So what
happens now, Well, Pam Bondi's back in Florida. The Deputy
Attorney General Todd Blanche is great. Trump loves him, trusts him.
He's really good with you. Give me a funny look.
You don't agree.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I do not like Todd Blanche.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
There you go. I rest my case. He must be good.
I'm like, nope, I like to one he's pretty good. Well.
My point though, is he wants lee Zelden. That's the word.
But he can't absolutely confirm that. I've already talked it
over with Leezeldon on Monday, but he wants Leezelden. Now,
the Democrats will do everything to screw this up in Congress.
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He's already been confirmed as EPA director, but it's a
different committee to be Attorney General that they want to reconfirm.
They'll delay forever. Now. The only good news is Trump
loves Todd Blanche, so if this confirmation takes eight months,
he'll have Todd blanch treatment. So he's fine either way.
Most likely it'll be Lee Zelden. His rumors everywhere, what
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Mike Lee. I'm sure every time the president phone rings,
it says Janin Perro on the caller, H, what the
hell's that noise?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
You have noise? Oh? You know what it is. It's
a little known fact for the audience. Sean Hannity loves ice. So,
oh it's the ice many moons ago. We bought an
ice maker and you guys can't hear it over the air,
but when you're in studio, it is loud and it
comes out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, I'm talking about that. That's a radio. So it's
like I'm at Hugh Hefner's house kicking. You're fine, so anyway, oh, yeah,
we're talking about Jane Piro. Janeane Piro. I would imagine
there's a lot of you know what happens, a lot
of senators, a lot of people that know Trump call
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and try to push somebody of their own in there.
So you got to have a few days of that.
But again, he loves Todd Blanche, so he'll be fine
for Todd Blanche for a while. Again, Bondi was great.
The problem is when you get into the highest level
of the biggest you're in the national government, everything's different.
The press is different. You know, in Florida you had
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a couple of state House reporters that you got to know,
but now you got the most vicious, evil, monstrous press
corps in the world. After you and the Epstein files. Well,
she did kind of botch it up there, definitely, as
far as the public relations, the optics, you know, you
got to know how to handle that. And again, coming
from the sleepy state of Florida, she might not have
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been ready for that. And I mean I remember all
the Epstein things she did. She she said, I have
the client list, which she shouldn't have said. There's no
such thing. Epstein never had a sex business. There's no
client list. I mean, there were young girls and god
knows what going on, but there weren't clients for that.
The only client list he was his wealth management business,
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and that's five names on it. So it was she
said she brought in the reporters to show them binders.
Here's here's the Epstein files, millions of binders. I don't
think it was really in those binders. But then nothing
happened for a long time. So the Trump that's very
big on that. You can't screw up the public relations
or the optics. I think that was the problem with
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Christy Gnome. What happened in Minneapolis was ugly with the
you know, the shooting and all that, but she shouldn't
have shot her mouth off. She went there huffing and
puffing and shooting her mouth off too fast and just
made the whole thing, the optics worse than they had
to be. So in botching up the Epstein files, it
really didn't need to get botched up. It's not that bad.
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You know I'm in the Epstein files. Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Should I be surprised or should I pretend to be?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Nothing bad? Nothing bad?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
What are you in there for?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, if you go to the Epstein Files online, it'll
take you to the government site. There's a search bar.
You can type in names. There's guys I know that
were involved with I'm typing in their names. Everything's coming up.
Just for the help that I typed in my name.
I came up six times, nothing bad. A couple of times.
He was going to an event where I was the MC.
My name was on the invitation. That's how it showed up.
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Another one, our buddy, Jackie Martling, apparently was friends with him,
emailing back and forth and was telling him something about
my show that came up. Yeah, you'd be surprised. What
comes up in there? They had all of his American
Express bills in there, so millions of restaurants come up.
If you search millions of stories.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But you remember the ladies of the view, how they said,
if you're in these files, that's it. You're done, you know,
forget about it. You're in here. And then who appears
in there but not other than Woopi Goldberg and Joy Bayhart.
And then suddenly that wasn't the case. We were not
in there for the same reasons.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, yeah, and Epstein had all these friends. They thought
there were political experts. So they're all listening to talk radio,
watching all the cable news shows, and they're emailing them
all the time. By Sean Hannity said this last night,
and so and so said this, and so that comes
up in the files. And then there's names you wouldn't like.
Woody Allen is all through there. But now he was
always there with his wife. He can't raise money in
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Hollywood anymore. They will not finance his films, so he
goes to these private billionaires to get funding. He was
all over Epstein to get his films fun. And then
I see Dick Cabot in there. He was trying to
put together a PBS special PBS. You got to get
somebody to finance it. He was trying to get Epstein
to finance. So there's a lot of innocent stuff in there.
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And you know I didn't google your name in that searcher.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Have at it.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, I bet for it. You could be in there.
So we'll see. The President went to the Supreme Court yesterday.
They said it was too it was so wrong of
him to be there. He was there to intimidate them,
to stare them down. Well, first of all, he's actually
named in the lawsuit. He's the guy that executive order
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get rid of the birthright stuff. States sued him. It's
the States versus him. He lost, it's been appealed, it's
gone to the Supreme Court. He's what do you call that,
the defendant or the whatever he's named in the lawsuit.
And if you check the history of the Supreme Court,
they always urge the parties named to attend the hearing.
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So he had every right to be there, stay the
whole day. I knew he wouldn't. Could you ever go?
You ever go to a Supreme Court hearing? I'm sure
after about twenty minutes he wanted to kill himself. And
what the heck did I get myself into here? So
we'll get to that with Greg, Jared'll be with us later,
a great legal expert. The President made a big primetime
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address later. You know what, we'll play a bit of
that for you, because we now realize the reason you
did a primetime television address was so the whole nation
would hear you, and we now realize, in fact, that
was probably the last prime time address you'll ever see.
We now realize nobody in the population watches network television anymore.
Nobody watches ABC, CBS, NBC anymore. They're all streaming and
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beaming and whatever the heck they're doing.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
But there were streaming and beaming, there were people watching,
Like if you ever watched Right Side Broadcasting Network online,
you can watch that on YouTube. There was a lot
of people streaming it on X But I do think
it's worth playing because a lot of people don't watch
those main channels.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, in the good old days, if it was you know,
Jimmy ABC.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
NBCCBS, Yeah, yeah, Jimmy Carter addresses the nation Iran hostage
crisis to be literally ninety million people.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You'd be lucky if you hit ten million. Now, So
we'll go over that. We'll go over the reaction to
I love Chuck Schumer. Boy, he put his finger on it.
He said, it's rambling in coherence. Seemed fine to me.
I understood every word. And then Schumer said, the biggest
foreign policy blunder ever in history. You know, if you
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took out the most evil terrorist leader in the world,
how could you ever call that a blunder. You could
argue it wasn't the right moment, it wasn't the right
exact way, but the biggest blunder ever. Can imagine if
Schumer was around for World War Two and we got
rid of Hitler, biggest foreign policy blunder ever. Anyway, we'll
take some calls to one eight hundred nine tour to one.
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Sean is the number one eight hundred nine four to
one Sean. Mark Simone here for Jean. He follow me
on Instagram. Mark Simone NYC on Instagram. I want I
like Instagram. No TikTok. I hate it, Nah, it's why
it's too stupid. Instagram TikTok for adults.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's actually pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Actually, And make sure you check out Hannity dot com.
Always a lot of good stories there. Back in a
moment on the Sean Hannity Show, heye speaking of the
real truth about DC. There now John Tilman, leading political
strategist author. He's the CEO of the American Culture Project,
founder and CEO of the Hall of Giants. Now he's
got this new book, The Political Vice, How the Radical
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Left Controls America and the Path to Regaining Our Liberty.
Interesting book, lots to talk about. John Tilman, how are you.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, this is quite a book. This is somebody needed
to explain all this because, and I see this all
the time. A young guy runs for Congress, he gets elected,
he's going to go to Washington, he's going to change
the world, and then he gets into that swamp and
that's where the political vice comes in. Explain what the
political vice is.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
The whole point is that politicians you're describing, whether they're
that rookie that you're talking about we all think is
idealized and he's going to be great, or the veteran
like Mitch mcconnald's been there forever. They're all operating inside
a pressurized system. They're in the middle of a three
sided advice and they're getting pressure from the media. They're
getting pressure from the public or the American people, and
they're getting pressure from elite influencers. And the elite influencers
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are important because they also manipulate the media and the
American people, and they apply pressure to the system. And
the fourth side is where the legislative output or policy
pronouncements come from. And this explains what you kind of
alluded to. Why is it when conservatives get elected they
begin to move left. When the liberals get elected, they
just move further left. The reason is because the liberal machine,
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the progressive machine, controls all three sides of the vice.
And the recipe for us is we have to build
capacity to compete, get our hands on the levers of device,
and put pressure for liberty instead of the extremism of
the political left.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah. Has anybody figured out why the media is so left?
If you go to I mean, I've been in all
these newsrooms working there, they are all left wing people.
Why is that? We know?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I do think it's been a generational thing. I think
the Watergate era. I came of age during the Watergate era.
I actually started out as a journalism major in a
political science minor before I came to my senses and
went into business. And even then, in the late seventies
early eighties, it was already leaning left in that era,
attracted a lot of do gooders, essentially activists. Political activists
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started to go to journalism schools and become journalists for
two reasons. One is it was the way they could
see they could affect narrative and how people consumed information
and how people were essentially propagandaized through the news media.
And secondly, they thought they're on the righteous side of
history because of that era, and so people that are
on conservative bent tend to go into business, engineer and
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those sort of things, and it doesn't attract the same
kind of people into journalism. I think that's a big
reason why over over a couple generations.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It's interesting, you know, every time I was ever on MSNBC,
everybody in the newsroom would glare at you. You know,
two conservative them, they'd glare at you. But everybody that
worked on the crew, the cameraman would come up to
you a whispering year. I agree with you, I agree
with you, working people. But is that the problem that
conservatives generally tend to not go into government, they tend
not to go into the media. They tend to actually
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go to work and do some real things.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I think that's exactly right. Part of that is because
people who are naturally conservative, who believe in the founding principles,
they tend to go into business, or they just are
agnostic about government. They're just not interested in government. Doesn't
seem like an appealing thing. But those who are on
the political left, they believe in government. They want the
government to have more power, more say, and they love
for them to be in the control chair of the government,
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wielding its power over how we all live our lives.
And so for them, an activist government that's always trying
to the dials to tune in our society better by
those elite influencers that I talked about who are telling
us all, like Anthony Fauci, them trying to tell us
how to live our lives better and better over time,
Bill Gates. They really believe that if they just put
the right people in the seats in government, they will
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help all of us live a much better life worthy
of their great wisdom, which of course is fault and
never really works out. And that's how you get to totalitarianism.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, I guess that is a big key to the
liberal mentality. They're very smart, You're very stupid. They should
tell you how to live your life, They should set
the rules for you. How do you cure that? It
seems built in?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I think one of the chapters in the book I
talked about picking different elites. I think the part of
the problem is we've allowed too many elites of the
left to take over our key institutions, obviously higher education
through twelve education, the healthcare system, the deep state itself,
corporate communications. We have to fight back to get those
jobs back, and there's a number of ways that people
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are doing that. And one of the ways you pick
new different elites that are pro America and pro liberty
and reject the sort of centralizing authority that the political
left seems to be pursuing is by picking better politicians.
And I think the election of Trump is just a
really good example of that. That is the ultimate choice
to pick a rebel who is not part of the
elite consensus governing over the American people. And that is
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why they've been so vociferous and just unbelievably ruthless in
going after him, is because he rejects the entire governing
philosophy of that technocratic political left. And that's one of
the things I talked about in the book is that
Trump is probably the greatest politician ever at resisting the
powers of the political vice when they really have unleashed
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on him on a daily basis. It's going on right
now with a war. It's going on right now with
a Save Act. You can see the power of the
left as they try to control the narrative of the war,
which is going really well. But the American people don't
know that because of the way the media reports it
and all of these things. He is still very good
at resisting, and he's a unicorn when it comes to that.
Most politicians don't kind of correct courage and willpower.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah. Well, if this is fascinating stuff, if you want
to read more, get the book. This is John Tillman's
new book, The Political Vice John Tilman, The Political Advice.
You can order the book. Hey, when you know, when
you say deep state, there's a lot of liberals or
even media, they'll say deep state, you're being paranoid. There's
no such thing. Well, it's an actual thing. There's you know,
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you appoint the secretary of this department. He appoints thirty
people under him, but there's like five thousand under him,
that are permanent government. That's what we mean right with
the deep state talking.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
About we're talking about millions of employer at the federal
and state level. Essentially, for every one elected official in
the country, there's thirty three people working in an administrative
role at implementing policy out of sight and out of
mind and wielding and wielding tremendous power. It's a real thing, and.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's what they also call it, the permanent government. They
never leave and they really believe they control them, that
the president is just a temporary blip on their radar.
So how do you ever fix that. You're never gonna
get rid of those people.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
The only way to fix that over time is to
change the civil laws governing civil employees in government. We
have to really change that. We need terminal emits for
government employees, and I think that would be a very
popular measure. Yeah, I thought about pursuing that we do
need termal limits for the permanent institutions of government. People
have been there years or more. It's time for them
to move on and go work in the private sector
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for a change and find real worlds.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Like So, whenever you get a new president, a Democrat
or Republican. They're part of the system, you know, they're
part of the club. They speak in that formal, official
political way. Is that why there's so much Trump arrangement syndrome?
Is it that they've never felt themselves threatened the system,
the deep state by Trump, that the fact that he's
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going to try to grab them right by the throat.
Is that why they're so outraged at him.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I think that's one aspect of it. And I think
that's an important aspect of it. Is he speaks in
every man's languge which you know, he's worked with the
trades his whole life. He's talked to carpenters and electricians
and welders and steel workers and all the rest of it.
He knows everyday language. And they don't like that. He
doesn't speak in the Harvard language of Barack Obama. So
that's one aspect of it. He's like a foreign animal
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to them. But the other aspect of it that they
really hate is Trump holds them accountable. He says, you stink.
You guys are failing over and over again. You've had
all this power for decades, and look at the condition
of the country. You all are failing. And he says
that to the deep state, he says that to the
professional careers working in government, and he says that to
establishment Republicans that Democrats alike, and nobody likes to be
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held accountable. The one thing that unites Democrats and Republicans
in Congress is they don't be held accountable by their voters.
And that is why they don't like Trump, because he's
holding him accountable on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, but you get these politicians, these Gavin News Sometimes
they look great, they sound great. Meantime they get nothing done.
The place gets one hundred times worse under their leadership.
How do voters fall for that? Even Democratic voters.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
The great chalent we face. And it's one of the
reasons I wrote the book is because voters are you know,
most voters are you know, people that are listening to
the Hannity Show or watch Hannity on on Fox News,
and people that read this kind of book are really
into this subject matter. But the vast majority of American
voter is maybe as much as sixty or seventy percent
of them are dipping in and out of politics lightly.
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They get deeper involved every two to four years when
elections come around. But they're not paying a lot of attention,
so the propaganda does slowly work to blindside them and
blindfold them, and they don't fully see the truth of
what is going on. And part of my thesis is
that we need to build more capacity in media to
meet to read those untethered people in the middle who
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surface him on politics.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now, what can you build talk radio? Detailed coverage of
Fox News, That's what more could you build?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
We need to build capacity in entertainment, film, music, every
aspect of that. There's been a lot one of the
things that's going on. You can look at radio is
a really good example, and podcasting is another really good
example that conservative outlets, and both of those have really
come on very strongly. Same thing with People News. They're
leading there the tip of the sphere and the vanguard.
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But what's following behind that now are big investments by
a lot of philanthropists and business investors in film and entertainment.
I think that's a key aspect of it. And then
also another part of it is data capacity. We have
to continue to build out our data mining capacity and
really build The twentieth century was the century of mass communication.
For the first time in human history. The twenty first
century is going to be the century of one to
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one communication, where we can literally dial down a specific,
customized message to individual people. The political left is pursuing
those capacities right now, and we need to do We're
doing some of that now on the right, we need
to do a lot more of it so that we
can peep for mind share outside of the less powerful
narrative and traditional media.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Wow, hey, e'splain that a little more one to one
in what format and what specific thing would you do?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Then he who controls data controls the messaging. So what
we need to do is build tools such as your show.
If somebody comes to the insite and signs up and
gets on your email list, now you have their email address,
you run it against social media accounts, you find out
how to reach them through Facebook, Instagram and the other
accounts x platform and you start marketing to them through
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those third party platforms, but you have direct communication with
them through email and texting and so that they might
be watching the ABC Evening News or the CBS Evening News,
but they're also being reached through text, through email and
then through proprietary channels. So for example, Fox obviously is
proprietary channel that's owned by Fox News. Your radio station's
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owned by whoever owns that. But part of this is
you use those third party channels while building a direct
marketing machine to reach people primarily through text and email
in the modern digital world. And the point of this is,
we don't want to just rely on broadcast network you know, CBSABC, NBC,
Fox television shows and run ads. We want to be
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building channels of communication to individual people one of the time.
So for example, when you're streaming a show on your television,
the tools are now available where I can send you
an ad on Budweiser beer because you love that. But
your neighbor is going to go to add on Medelo
because we know he likes that. The same idea can
apply to politics, and that's what we need to be doing.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Very interesting, Well, obviously this is a fascinating book. You
want to get the book, John Tilman's new book, The
Political Vice. Order it now, Amazon, The Political Advice, or
wherever you get your books. John Tilman, great stuff, Thanks
for being with.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Us, Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
All right, take care and now that's very interesting stuff.
Oh wait, hang on, this could be for you. Nope,
it's not my phone going on. Hey, it's Mark Simone
here for Sean Hannity. Normally I'm on our big flagship
here in New York WR. Or you can get my
podcast on iHeart. You can get Linda's podcast there too,
which is called.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I mean, you don't listen to it every day and
have it memorized.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Mark. In fact, you have commercials for it during my
show here and he works.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, it's Rogue Recap.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Road Recap. Rogue Rogue Recap.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You suck at this, but you're listening to John this
one to.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
One, all right, Rogue g recap.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Anyway, we'll got a lot coming, Hey, Greg, Jared will
be with us in a few minutes. We'll talk about
Pam Bondi, Scotus and all that stuff coming up on
the Sean Hannity Show. Hey, it's Mark Simone here for
Sean Hannity. Sean will be back soon. I'll take a
couple of calls. Let's go to uh Jeff in New Hampshire. Jeff,
Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Him, Mark, how are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Good good?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I was calling because I wanted to get your take
on Psycho what's his name? Maria Carvill James Cargo and
his new ranch about how proud he wants to prosecute
the Trump fail family and come behind bars.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, well, actually I enjoy that. I really like, you know,
the one thing with the Trump dirigiens. You know, I
enjoy seeing those people get so crazy. I love seeing
the fact that they're totally enraged. You know, Carville is
kind of retired, He's sitting at home. He could be
enjoying his life. Instead, he's fuming. Smoke's coming out of
his ears, his glasses are fogging up. He's in a
total rage. Twenty four to seven. They just can't deal
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with it. And Trump is one. He's like the little
kid who you know in the zoo has to rattle
the cage. He has to like hit the cage with
a stick and rile up the tiger. But yeah, I
mean I didn't like Biden. I didn't think he was
very good, but I certainly didn't walk around thinking about
him all day. I certainly didn't get into a rage
and started yelling and screaming about him. I can't even
imagine that. That's why I like that, No, Kings, that
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was great protesting stuff that doesn't even exist anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Why don't we listen to Carville? He's crazy?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Oh you haven't, you fat? If you listen to this,
you listen good, because what I'm getting ready to say
is what a lot of people in this country speak for.
Who I speak for, and I'll speak for a lot
of people. You mean, you fat? This is what we believe.
You're right. I got Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I hate the mother, and you know what, I don't
want to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I don't want to get better. I want to get worse.
I want to hate anymore. I pray to God in Heaven,
God rain the righteous rain of Trump derangement syndrome of me.
Pray for me, Lord, I'm your vessel on this earth.
Pray for the people that listen to this. We want more.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
We want to hate the son of a so much
that we can't see straight.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah. I like that. You know, if I hate somebody,
I don't want to walk by and see that they're happy,
they're enjoying themselves, they got a smile. I like to
walk by and see that they're punching the wall, they're
going crazy, they're nuts. Well be miserable anyway. Mark Simone
here for Sean Hannity
Well, whose glasses are these? I don't like these, Chuck Schumer. Sean, No,
Sean wouldn't wear these. These are definitely Chuck Schumer. Old
Lady Specials here. Hey, it's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity.
Normally I'm on our big flagship station here in New
York w R. I'm on. You know, I'm on ten
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to noon. Linda. You know who's now on before me? Who?
Oh you know Curtis Sliwa.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oh, yes, I did hear about that.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Indeed, are buddy Curtis now working at war every morning,
and that's great. Linda's here in the studio, I.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Am, And how could I miss you? I have to
be here when you're here.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
There you go. And we got lots to get to today.
We'll get to Pam Bondy. We'll get to Tiger Woods,
we'll get to Bruce Springsteen, we'll get to the ballroom,
we'll get to a ran and a whole lot more.
And well, first the big news. Pam Bondy is out.
She's out. From what I hear, she's already back in Florida.
She left quickly. And you know, yesterday the President went
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to the Supreme Court to sit in on the hearing,
and Pam Bondi went with them, so they were riding
there in the car together. They rode back to the
White House in the car together in the beast. And
you know eve been in that beast. It's very tight
inside there.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Have you been in the Beast?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah? Not with the president, but you know it's bombproof
and bulletproof. The way they do that, the doors, the walls,
everything is like a foot thick, so inside there's like
two feet of room missing in there. So when he
was with Pam Bondi, you're like right on top of
each other. Must have been a little uncomfortable. He must
have known then he was going to get rid of her.
You think he said anything then? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Absolutely, Really you think he said Donald Trump? Absolutely, he's
not holding that in. He'd be like, listen, Pam, you're wonderful,
but our time has come to you.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
You think he told her yesterday?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes, I think he said to you, listen, the hammer's
coming tomorrow. Wear a good suit, do your hair and makeup.
Get ready. They're going to come at you.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Interesting thought. You don't think he'd try to soften it up, like, hey,
you must really miss Florida.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Right, I don't think that soft is in his vocabulary.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Uh well, I guess sometimes sometimes I don't know. So
she's back in Florida, and as she was very good.
She was a great Attorney General of Florida, really really good.
I think she just got in, uh, went up one
step too high. That can happen. It happens in the
radio business. You might be a local host in whatever
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city and you're number one, you're the best radio host
in your city. But what, Linda, you'll attest to this.
Once in a while, you get called, we're gonna let
you fill in for Sean Hannity. Now you're on a
network at seven hundred stations, you're talking to twenty million people,
and the guy chokes. You've seen that happen, right.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I had somebody fill in they shall remain nameless. And
they came in and they had papers and papers and
notes and notes and more papers and more notes, and
I said, I'm going to tell you right now, you're
not reading from those papers and you're not using those notes,
and if you use them, I will set them on fire. Yeah,
they thought I was kidding. I said those notes on
fire during the break.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, So if you're a local host, you come here
and you get very intimidated. The perfect person have there
is Linda yelling at.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You, very comforting.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
That's exactly what you need. Terrified out of your mind
and you got this. Just let me get through this
screaming it so now, but I've seen it happen a
million times. You know the guy on I'm trying not
to mention a city because that might indicate a host,
but you know he's from that city in the Midwest.
He hosts the local Afternoon. She's great. Now he's filling
in for Hannity. There's millions of I mean there's literally
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literally like eighteen nineteen million people listening. And he's used
to his little studio. Look at that control room. There's
like four thousand computers in there. There's a it's intimidating,
so he freezes up or he's not as good. He
makes mistakes, takes a certain person to fill in here,
like me, somebody who couldn't care less.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I was like, you're the perfect person.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Hit does off in the middle of it. So what
happens now, Well, Pam Bondi's back in Florida. The Deputy
Attorney General Todd Blanche is great. Trump loves him, trusts him.
He's really good with you. Give me a funny look.
You don't agree.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I do not like Todd Blanche.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
There you go. I rest my case. He must be good.
I'm like, nope, I like to one he's pretty good. Well.
My point though, is he wants lee Zelden. That's the word.
But he can't absolutely confirm that. I've already talked it
over with Leezeldon on Monday, but he wants Leezelden. Now,
the Democrats will do everything to screw this up in Congress.
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He's already been confirmed as EPA director, but it's a
different committee to be Attorney General that they want to reconfirm.
They'll delay forever. Now. The only good news is Trump
loves Todd Blanche, so if this confirmation takes eight months,
he'll have Todd blanch treatment. So he's fine either way.
Most likely it'll be Lee Zelden. His rumors everywhere, what
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Mike Lee. I'm sure every time the president phone rings,
it says Janin Perro on the caller, H, what the
hell's that noise?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
You have noise? Oh? You know what it is. It's
a little known fact for the audience. Sean Hannity loves ice. So,
oh it's the ice many moons ago. We bought an
ice maker and you guys can't hear it over the air,
but when you're in studio, it is loud and it
comes out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, I'm talking about that. That's a radio. So it's
like I'm at Hugh Hefner's house kicking. You're fine, so anyway, oh, yeah,
we're talking about Jane Piro. Janeane Piro. I would imagine
there's a lot of you know what happens, a lot
of senators, a lot of people that know Trump call
(05:38):
and try to push somebody of their own in there.
So you got to have a few days of that.
But again, he loves Todd Blanche, so he'll be fine
for Todd Blanche for a while. Again, Bondi was great.
The problem is when you get into the highest level
of the biggest you're in the national government, everything's different.
The press is different. You know, in Florida you had
(06:00):
a couple of state House reporters that you got to know,
but now you got the most vicious, evil, monstrous press
corps in the world. After you and the Epstein files. Well,
she did kind of botch it up there, definitely, as
far as the public relations, the optics, you know, you
got to know how to handle that. And again, coming
from the sleepy state of Florida, she might not have
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been ready for that. And I mean I remember all
the Epstein things she did. She she said, I have
the client list, which she shouldn't have said. There's no
such thing. Epstein never had a sex business. There's no
client list. I mean, there were young girls and god
knows what going on, but there weren't clients for that.
The only client list he was his wealth management business,
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and that's five names on it. So it was she
said she brought in the reporters to show them binders.
Here's here's the Epstein files, millions of binders. I don't
think it was really in those binders. But then nothing
happened for a long time. So the Trump that's very
big on that. You can't screw up the public relations
or the optics. I think that was the problem with
(07:04):
Christy Gnome. What happened in Minneapolis was ugly with the
you know, the shooting and all that, but she shouldn't
have shot her mouth off. She went there huffing and
puffing and shooting her mouth off too fast and just
made the whole thing, the optics worse than they had
to be. So in botching up the Epstein files, it
really didn't need to get botched up. It's not that bad.
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You know I'm in the Epstein files. Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Should I be surprised or should I pretend to be?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Nothing bad? Nothing bad?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
What are you in there for?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, if you go to the Epstein Files online, it'll
take you to the government site. There's a search bar.
You can type in names. There's guys I know that
were involved with I'm typing in their names. Everything's coming up.
Just for the help that I typed in my name.
I came up six times, nothing bad. A couple of times.
He was going to an event where I was the MC.
My name was on the invitation. That's how it showed up.
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Another one, our buddy, Jackie Martling, apparently was friends with him,
emailing back and forth and was telling him something about
my show that came up. Yeah, you'd be surprised. What
comes up in there? They had all of his American
Express bills in there, so millions of restaurants come up.
If you search millions of stories.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But you remember the ladies of the view, how they said,
if you're in these files, that's it. You're done, you know,
forget about it. You're in here. And then who appears
in there but not other than Woopi Goldberg and Joy Bayhart.
And then suddenly that wasn't the case. We were not
in there for the same reasons.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, yeah, and Epstein had all these friends. They thought
there were political experts. So they're all listening to talk radio,
watching all the cable news shows, and they're emailing them
all the time. By Sean Hannity said this last night,
and so and so said this, and so that comes
up in the files. And then there's names you wouldn't like.
Woody Allen is all through there. But now he was
always there with his wife. He can't raise money in
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Hollywood anymore. They will not finance his films, so he
goes to these private billionaires to get funding. He was
all over Epstein to get his films fun. And then
I see Dick Cabot in there. He was trying to
put together a PBS special PBS. You got to get
somebody to finance it. He was trying to get Epstein
to finance. So there's a lot of innocent stuff in there.
(09:12):
And you know I didn't google your name in that searcher.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Have at it.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, I bet for it. You could be in there.
So we'll see. The President went to the Supreme Court yesterday.
They said it was too it was so wrong of
him to be there. He was there to intimidate them,
to stare them down. Well, first of all, he's actually
named in the lawsuit. He's the guy that executive order
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get rid of the birthright stuff. States sued him. It's
the States versus him. He lost, it's been appealed, it's
gone to the Supreme Court. He's what do you call that,
the defendant or the whatever he's named in the lawsuit.
And if you check the history of the Supreme Court,
they always urge the parties named to attend the hearing.
(09:57):
So he had every right to be there, stay the
whole day. I knew he wouldn't. Could you ever go?
You ever go to a Supreme Court hearing? I'm sure
after about twenty minutes he wanted to kill himself. And
what the heck did I get myself into here? So
we'll get to that with Greg, Jared'll be with us later,
a great legal expert. The President made a big primetime
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address later. You know what, we'll play a bit of
that for you, because we now realize the reason you
did a primetime television address was so the whole nation
would hear you, and we now realize, in fact, that
was probably the last prime time address you'll ever see.
We now realize nobody in the population watches network television anymore.
Nobody watches ABC, CBS, NBC anymore. They're all streaming and
(10:43):
beaming and whatever the heck they're doing.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
But there were streaming and beaming, there were people watching,
Like if you ever watched Right Side Broadcasting Network online,
you can watch that on YouTube. There was a lot
of people streaming it on X But I do think
it's worth playing because a lot of people don't watch
those main channels.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, in the good old days, if it was you know,
Jimmy ABC.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
NBCCBS, Yeah, yeah, Jimmy Carter addresses the nation Iran hostage
crisis to be literally ninety million people.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
You'd be lucky if you hit ten million. Now, So
we'll go over that. We'll go over the reaction to
I love Chuck Schumer. Boy, he put his finger on it.
He said, it's rambling in coherence. Seemed fine to me.
I understood every word. And then Schumer said, the biggest
foreign policy blunder ever in history. You know, if you
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took out the most evil terrorist leader in the world,
how could you ever call that a blunder. You could
argue it wasn't the right moment, it wasn't the right
exact way, but the biggest blunder ever. Can imagine if
Schumer was around for World War Two and we got
rid of Hitler, biggest foreign policy blunder ever. Anyway, we'll
take some calls to one eight hundred nine tour to one.
(11:54):
Sean is the number one eight hundred nine four to
one Sean. Mark Simone here for Jean. He follow me
on Instagram. Mark Simone NYC on Instagram. I want I
like Instagram. No TikTok. I hate it, Nah, it's why
it's too stupid. Instagram TikTok for adults.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's actually pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Actually, And make sure you check out Hannity dot com.
Always a lot of good stories there. Back in a
moment on the Sean Hannity Show, heye speaking of the
real truth about DC. There now John Tilman, leading political
strategist author. He's the CEO of the American Culture Project,
founder and CEO of the Hall of Giants. Now he's
got this new book, The Political Vice, How the Radical
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Left Controls America and the Path to Regaining Our Liberty.
Interesting book, lots to talk about. John Tilman, how are you.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, this is quite a book. This is somebody needed
to explain all this because, and I see this all
the time. A young guy runs for Congress, he gets elected,
he's going to go to Washington, he's going to change
the world, and then he gets into that swamp and
that's where the political vice comes in. Explain what the
political vice is.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
The whole point is that politicians you're describing, whether they're
that rookie that you're talking about we all think is
idealized and he's going to be great, or the veteran
like Mitch mcconnald's been there forever. They're all operating inside
a pressurized system. They're in the middle of a three
sided advice and they're getting pressure from the media. They're
getting pressure from the public or the American people, and
they're getting pressure from elite influencers. And the elite influencers
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are important because they also manipulate the media and the
American people, and they apply pressure to the system. And
the fourth side is where the legislative output or policy
pronouncements come from. And this explains what you kind of
alluded to. Why is it when conservatives get elected they
begin to move left. When the liberals get elected, they
just move further left. The reason is because the liberal machine,
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the progressive machine, controls all three sides of the vice.
And the recipe for us is we have to build
capacity to compete, get our hands on the levers of device,
and put pressure for liberty instead of the extremism of
the political left.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah. Has anybody figured out why the media is so left?
If you go to I mean, I've been in all
these newsrooms working there, they are all left wing people.
Why is that? We know?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I do think it's been a generational thing. I think
the Watergate era. I came of age during the Watergate era.
I actually started out as a journalism major in a
political science minor before I came to my senses and
went into business. And even then, in the late seventies
early eighties, it was already leaning left in that era,
attracted a lot of do gooders, essentially activists. Political activists
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started to go to journalism schools and become journalists for
two reasons. One is it was the way they could
see they could affect narrative and how people consumed information
and how people were essentially propagandaized through the news media.
And secondly, they thought they're on the righteous side of
history because of that era, and so people that are
on conservative bent tend to go into business, engineer and
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those sort of things, and it doesn't attract the same
kind of people into journalism. I think that's a big
reason why over over a couple generations.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It's interesting, you know, every time I was ever on MSNBC,
everybody in the newsroom would glare at you. You know,
two conservative them, they'd glare at you. But everybody that
worked on the crew, the cameraman would come up to
you a whispering year. I agree with you, I agree
with you, working people. But is that the problem that
conservatives generally tend to not go into government, they tend
not to go into the media. They tend to actually
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go to work and do some real things.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I think that's exactly right. Part of that is because
people who are naturally conservative, who believe in the founding principles,
they tend to go into business, or they just are
agnostic about government. They're just not interested in government. Doesn't
seem like an appealing thing. But those who are on
the political left, they believe in government. They want the
government to have more power, more say, and they love
for them to be in the control chair of the government,
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wielding its power over how we all live our lives.
And so for them, an activist government that's always trying
to the dials to tune in our society better by
those elite influencers that I talked about who are telling
us all, like Anthony Fauci, them trying to tell us
how to live our lives better and better over time,
Bill Gates. They really believe that if they just put
the right people in the seats in government, they will
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help all of us live a much better life worthy
of their great wisdom, which of course is fault and
never really works out. And that's how you get to totalitarianism.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, I guess that is a big key to the
liberal mentality. They're very smart, You're very stupid. They should
tell you how to live your life, They should set
the rules for you. How do you cure that? It
seems built in?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I think one of the chapters in the book I
talked about picking different elites. I think the part of
the problem is we've allowed too many elites of the
left to take over our key institutions, obviously higher education
through twelve education, the healthcare system, the deep state itself,
corporate communications. We have to fight back to get those
jobs back, and there's a number of ways that people
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are doing that. And one of the ways you pick
new different elites that are pro America and pro liberty
and reject the sort of centralizing authority that the political
left seems to be pursuing is by picking better politicians.
And I think the election of Trump is just a
really good example of that. That is the ultimate choice
to pick a rebel who is not part of the
elite consensus governing over the American people. And that is
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why they've been so vociferous and just unbelievably ruthless in
going after him, is because he rejects the entire governing
philosophy of that technocratic political left. And that's one of
the things I talked about in the book is that
Trump is probably the greatest politician ever at resisting the
powers of the political vice when they really have unleashed
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on him on a daily basis. It's going on right
now with a war. It's going on right now with
a Save Act. You can see the power of the
left as they try to control the narrative of the war,
which is going really well. But the American people don't
know that because of the way the media reports it
and all of these things. He is still very good
at resisting, and he's a unicorn when it comes to that.
Most politicians don't kind of correct courage and willpower.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah. Well, if this is fascinating stuff, if you want
to read more, get the book. This is John Tillman's
new book, The Political Vice John Tilman, The Political Advice.
You can order the book. Hey, when you know, when
you say deep state, there's a lot of liberals or
even media, they'll say deep state, you're being paranoid. There's
no such thing. Well, it's an actual thing. There's you know,
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you appoint the secretary of this department. He appoints thirty
people under him, but there's like five thousand under him,
that are permanent government. That's what we mean right with
the deep state talking.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
About we're talking about millions of employer at the federal
and state level. Essentially, for every one elected official in
the country, there's thirty three people working in an administrative
role at implementing policy out of sight and out of
mind and wielding and wielding tremendous power. It's a real thing, and.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's what they also call it, the permanent government. They
never leave and they really believe they control them, that
the president is just a temporary blip on their radar.
So how do you ever fix that. You're never gonna
get rid of those people.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
The only way to fix that over time is to
change the civil laws governing civil employees in government. We
have to really change that. We need terminal emits for
government employees, and I think that would be a very
popular measure. Yeah, I thought about pursuing that we do
need termal limits for the permanent institutions of government. People
have been there years or more. It's time for them
to move on and go work in the private sector
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for a change and find real worlds.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Like So, whenever you get a new president, a Democrat
or Republican. They're part of the system, you know, they're
part of the club. They speak in that formal, official
political way. Is that why there's so much Trump arrangement syndrome?
Is it that they've never felt themselves threatened the system,
the deep state by Trump, that the fact that he's
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going to try to grab them right by the throat.
Is that why they're so outraged at him.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I think that's one aspect of it. And I think
that's an important aspect of it. Is he speaks in
every man's languge which you know, he's worked with the
trades his whole life. He's talked to carpenters and electricians
and welders and steel workers and all the rest of it.
He knows everyday language. And they don't like that. He
doesn't speak in the Harvard language of Barack Obama. So
that's one aspect of it. He's like a foreign animal
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to them. But the other aspect of it that they
really hate is Trump holds them accountable. He says, you stink.
You guys are failing over and over again. You've had
all this power for decades, and look at the condition
of the country. You all are failing. And he says
that to the deep state, he says that to the
professional careers working in government, and he says that to
establishment Republicans that Democrats alike, and nobody likes to be
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held accountable. The one thing that unites Democrats and Republicans
in Congress is they don't be held accountable by their voters.
And that is why they don't like Trump, because he's
holding him accountable on a daily basis.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, but you get these politicians, these Gavin News Sometimes
they look great, they sound great. Meantime they get nothing done.
The place gets one hundred times worse under their leadership.
How do voters fall for that? Even Democratic voters.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
The great chalent we face. And it's one of the
reasons I wrote the book is because voters are you know,
most voters are you know, people that are listening to
the Hannity Show or watch Hannity on on Fox News,
and people that read this kind of book are really
into this subject matter. But the vast majority of American
voter is maybe as much as sixty or seventy percent
of them are dipping in and out of politics lightly.
(21:25):
They get deeper involved every two to four years when
elections come around. But they're not paying a lot of attention,
so the propaganda does slowly work to blindside them and
blindfold them, and they don't fully see the truth of
what is going on. And part of my thesis is
that we need to build more capacity in media to
meet to read those untethered people in the middle who
(21:46):
surface him on politics.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Now, what can you build talk radio? Detailed coverage of
Fox News, That's what more could you build?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
We need to build capacity in entertainment, film, music, every
aspect of that. There's been a lot one of the
things that's going on. You can look at radio is
a really good example, and podcasting is another really good
example that conservative outlets, and both of those have really
come on very strongly. Same thing with People News. They're
leading there the tip of the sphere and the vanguard.
(22:16):
But what's following behind that now are big investments by
a lot of philanthropists and business investors in film and entertainment.
I think that's a key aspect of it. And then
also another part of it is data capacity. We have
to continue to build out our data mining capacity and
really build The twentieth century was the century of mass communication.
For the first time in human history. The twenty first
century is going to be the century of one to
(22:38):
one communication, where we can literally dial down a specific,
customized message to individual people. The political left is pursuing
those capacities right now, and we need to do We're
doing some of that now on the right, we need
to do a lot more of it so that we
can peep for mind share outside of the less powerful
narrative and traditional media.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Wow, hey, e'splain that a little more one to one
in what format and what specific thing would you do?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Then he who controls data controls the messaging. So what
we need to do is build tools such as your show.
If somebody comes to the insite and signs up and
gets on your email list, now you have their email address,
you run it against social media accounts, you find out
how to reach them through Facebook, Instagram and the other
accounts x platform and you start marketing to them through
(23:24):
those third party platforms, but you have direct communication with
them through email and texting and so that they might
be watching the ABC Evening News or the CBS Evening News,
but they're also being reached through text, through email and
then through proprietary channels. So for example, Fox obviously is
proprietary channel that's owned by Fox News. Your radio station's
(23:45):
owned by whoever owns that. But part of this is
you use those third party channels while building a direct
marketing machine to reach people primarily through text and email
in the modern digital world. And the point of this is,
we don't want to just rely on broadcast network you know, CBSABC, NBC,
Fox television shows and run ads. We want to be
(24:05):
building channels of communication to individual people one of the time.
So for example, when you're streaming a show on your television,
the tools are now available where I can send you
an ad on Budweiser beer because you love that. But
your neighbor is going to go to add on Medelo
because we know he likes that. The same idea can
apply to politics, and that's what we need to be doing.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Very interesting, Well, obviously this is a fascinating book. You
want to get the book, John Tilman's new book, The
Political Vice. Order it now, Amazon, The Political Advice, or
wherever you get your books. John Tilman, great stuff, Thanks
for being with.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Us, Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
All right, take care and now that's very interesting stuff.
Oh wait, hang on, this could be for you. Nope,
it's not my phone going on. Hey, it's Mark Simone
here for Sean Hannity. Normally I'm on our big flagship
here in New York WR. Or you can get my
podcast on iHeart. You can get Linda's podcast there too,
which is called.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I mean, you don't listen to it every day and
have it memorized.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Mark. In fact, you have commercials for it during my
show here and he works.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, it's Rogue Recap.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Road Recap. Rogue Rogue Recap.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
You suck at this, but you're listening to John this
one to.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
One, all right, Rogue g recap.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Anyway, we'll got a lot coming, Hey, Greg, Jared will
be with us in a few minutes. We'll talk about
Pam Bondi, Scotus and all that stuff coming up on
the Sean Hannity Show. Hey, it's Mark Simone here for
Sean Hannity. Sean will be back soon. I'll take a
couple of calls. Let's go to uh Jeff in New Hampshire. Jeff,
Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Him, Mark, how are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Good good?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I was calling because I wanted to get your take
on Psycho what's his name? Maria Carvill James Cargo and
his new ranch about how proud he wants to prosecute
the Trump fail family and come behind bars.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, well, actually I enjoy that. I really like, you know,
the one thing with the Trump dirigiens. You know, I
enjoy seeing those people get so crazy. I love seeing
the fact that they're totally enraged. You know, Carville is
kind of retired, He's sitting at home. He could be
enjoying his life. Instead, he's fuming. Smoke's coming out of
his ears, his glasses are fogging up. He's in a
total rage. Twenty four to seven. They just can't deal
(26:20):
with it. And Trump is one. He's like the little
kid who you know in the zoo has to rattle
the cage. He has to like hit the cage with
a stick and rile up the tiger. But yeah, I
mean I didn't like Biden. I didn't think he was
very good, but I certainly didn't walk around thinking about
him all day. I certainly didn't get into a rage
and started yelling and screaming about him. I can't even
imagine that. That's why I like that, No, Kings, that
(26:42):
was great protesting stuff that doesn't even exist anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Why don't we listen to Carville? He's crazy?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Oh you haven't, you fat? If you listen to this,
you listen good, because what I'm getting ready to say
is what a lot of people in this country speak for.
Who I speak for, and I'll speak for a lot
of people. You mean, you fat? This is what we believe.
You're right. I got Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I hate the mother, and you know what, I don't
want to get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I don't want to get better. I want to get worse.
I want to hate anymore. I pray to God in Heaven,
God rain the righteous rain of Trump derangement syndrome of me.
Pray for me, Lord, I'm your vessel on this earth.
Pray for the people that listen to this. We want more.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
We want to hate the son of a so much
that we can't see straight.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah. I like that. You know, if I hate somebody,
I don't want to walk by and see that they're happy,
they're enjoying themselves, they got a smile. I like to
walk by and see that they're punching the wall, they're
going crazy, they're nuts. Well be miserable anyway. Mark Simone
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