September 2, 2026 • 30 mins
Big & Rich join Sean for a conversation about artificial intelligence, copyright, and what happens when machines can generate millions of songs by learning from the work of human artists. John Rich and Big Kenny argue that AI-generated music raises fundamental questions about plagiarism, ownership, compensation, and whether technology can ever replicate the soul behind a song. Sean also takes listener calls on the Trump doctrine, Iran, and the midterms while continuing to track the unresolved Clancy deliberations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, news roundup and information overload hour. Our toll-free
telephone number, you want to be a part of the program, 800-941-SHAWN.
If you want to join us, as we've been telling you,
the jury telling the judge for the second time in
the Lindsay Clancy case, they are unable to reach a verdict,
and the judge sending them back for deliberations, and that's
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where we are. But let me... Let me get to
some phone calls here. Later on, we have Big and
Rich joining us. You know, it's a phenomenon that's happening,
and that is artificial intelligence. People are using it, and
they're creating literally millions of songs. Some of them have
charted number one. They're not real people. Where's the soul
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of music? It's like, oh, okay, we'll have a robot
do it. Just like people have robots that they're dating.
I'm like, okay, that's a little weird to me, a
little strange to me. But anyway, we'll check in with them.
This is a big deal because now you're talking about
intellectual property and it's it's it's going to it's that
is going to get dicey like any new technology. It
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could be used for good or evil. You can use
artificial intelligence. The medical community is using it. I'm I'm
pretty confident. And I'm being very conservative in this estimate
within the next decade will eradicate cancer. How? Because they
will be able to, what the greatest radiologists in our
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country will be unable to see on a scan, AI
will be able to see. And as my friend Gary
Brecker says, they'll be able to catch a cancer at
stage zero when there's like just a couple of cells.
And obviously the earlier you detect cancer in your body,
the greater the odds that you're going to beat it
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and live longer. All right, let's get to our phones.
All right, we have other topics we're going to talk
about here. We have Roy in Tennessee. What's up, Roy?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Hey, John. Hey, now that SCOTUS has allowed the ballroom
to continue, I had this idea for Trump's next construction project.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
We've found a hideous library, and we've seen the plans
for Trump's beautiful presidential library. But poor Joe. Biden is
no longer a useful idiot. He's struggling to raise the
funds for his presidential library. I think Trump should step
up to the plate to build Biden's presidential library in Delaware.
The name of the library would be the Joe Biden
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Crime Family Library and Center for Political Corruption Research. The
facility would be dedicated to memorialize the corruption for the
last 10 years, featuring many of the actual documents and
videos chronicling the political sabotage of Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Why would President Trump want to ever waste his time
on doing something like that? Well, I think it's... I mean, honestly,
I mean, he's... First of all, he's a full-time president.
We've got a big election in 62 days. I want
his attention elsewhere. And, you know, we're going to come
back after our little Labor Day break, and we're all
going to realize that we've got to, you know, we've
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got to draw our attention and bring our friends and
family and coworkers and neighbors and strangers... along with us
and make them realize that the stakes are pretty high
this midterm election, I would argue the most important in
our lifetime. And I've said it before, but nothing compares
to this one. So, you know, as far as the Bidens,
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I have so checked that box. Do I think there
should be accountability? Yeah, I do. Is it my top priority?
At this point, it's not. Saving our country is our
top priority, should be our top priority. You know, there
comes a point in your life, Roy, and I think
you'll agree with me, because I love the people of
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Tennessee and the people of Tennessee just remind me of
everything that's great in the country. And there comes a
point in your life where it's not about us. It's
about others. You know, this radio show is a family
and it's like a club. And I'm honored to be
a member of the club, just a member. But we
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all are, you know, we're spokes in a wheel. Not
one of us can save anything. Combined together, you know, collectively,
not in the socialist communist sense, you know, we can
restore American greatness. That's what I care about. You know,
we do have an obligation to leave this country better
off than we found it. And our future for our
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children and our grandchildren is hanging in the balance in
so many different ways. Roy, appreciate you, man. God bless you.
800-941-SHAWN if you want to be a part of the program.
Jennifer in the live free or die state of New Hampshire.
What's up, Jennifer? How are you? You know, Sig Sauer
is the largest manufacturer in your state. Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
It is amazing. And I actually used to work for
a gun manufacturing company in this great state, New Hampshire,
years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, we can win that Senate seat in New Hampshire.
We just can't.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yes, we can. The reason for my call today is
I'm really upset with the fact that all these political
ads that are coming out are scaring the American people
because they're calling this Trump's war with Iran. And it's
not a war. A constitution states that Congress is the
only one that have the authority to declare war. And
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I don't recall Congress voting to declare war on this situation.
And it's called Operation Epic Fury. Because it's an operation.
It's not a war. But they keep, I wish they'd
have less fear-mongering and fewer political games and start working
on getting things done for the American people. This is
just wrong. And I can go back to like 1988,
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watching him on TV, interviewing his views and his opinions
about the American people have not changed.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Look, the Donald Trump doctrine, and it is purposely mischaracterized
by people that don't like him. And that would include, obviously,
every Democrat in the country. They have Trump derangement syndrome.
That would include the legacy media mob, abusively biased and
corrupt as they are. That would include people that have
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turned on Donald Trump for whatever reason. But they purposely
distort what the Trump doctrine is. Just go back to
his first term. Yeah, he does not believe in forever wars.
He has worked steadfastly to keep boots off the ground
in Iran in this conflict. We have decimated the military elite. Now,
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the real impact is happening economically. We had Scott Besson
on TV last night going into great specificity and detail
on that. But the Trump doctrine in the first term,
what did he do? He defeated ISIS, the caliphate, and
he did it. with hardly any recognition, and he bombed
them to smithereens. And now he took off the table
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something Democrats used to support, which is preventing Iran from
ever getting or achieving their ambition of a nuclear weapon.
That benefits the entire world. And he's accomplished that. He'll
never get credit for this, just like he'll never get
credit for, you know, securing the borders the way he has.
He's done a phenomenal job securing the borders. And, you know,
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look at what Joe Biden did, the most preventable national
security disaster in history. But he took out the ISIS caliphate, Soleimani,
the world's worst terrorist. Baghdadi, his associates, dropped the mother
of all bombs on Afghanistan. It does not mean, the
Trump doctrine does not mean isolationism. And the people that
try to define it that way are purposely misrepresenting Donald
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Trump's views, the ones that say, You know, Donald Trump
doesn't make his own decisions. Bibi makes it for them.
I mean, it's laughable. I remember in an interview with Bibi,
I asked him about that. He started laughing because that's
not the way it works with Donald Trump. And I've
known him for 30 years. I'm telling you firsthand, it's
not the way he flies. He doesn't roll like that.
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He makes up his own mind. And, you know, to
his credit here, he was willing to hear out people
on all sides of this. I did talk to him
about it, but I'll specifically tell you what I told him.
I said, your instincts are always incredible, and Midnight Hammer
was necessary, and you did that which others would be
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too gutless to do, and I give you all the
credit in the world for that. But I also said
to him, you have access to information I will never
have access to, but I do trust your instincts. I
think he's got incredibly keen instincts. You know, if there's
one criticism I'd give the president, I thought Newt hit
on this pretty well yesterday. If if he had only
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told the American people, hey, it's going to take a while.
We're going to cut off the head of the snake,
as Scott Besson described it economically. And along with the
economic embargo, we're going to cut off any ability to
access any of their money worldwide. It's going to be
the biggest financial squeeze of any country in history. and
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I just need your patience, and we're going to get there,
but we're not going to put boots on the ground,
and this is not going to be a forever war.
I think he'd be probably in a better spot with
the American people on it. So maybe a communications miscalculation.
Maybe he gives too much access with these gaggles in
the Oval Office. I don't know. But that's neither here
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nor there. He accomplished that which everyone said should never happen.
And he doesn't get credit for it. Doesn't get credit
for the borders. Doesn't get credit for the largest tax
cut in history. Doesn't get credit for bringing manufacturing back
to America. Doesn't get credit for 11 trillion dollars in
committed investments for semiconductors pharmaceuticals to be made at home
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bringing back automobile manufacturing so It is what it is,
but I'll spend the next 62 days trying to help
people have a better understanding, knowing that the legacy media
has a far different agenda, and Democrats just want to
hate on him, and they've embraced socialism and don't have
the courage or moral clarity to stand against it. So
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that's what's at stake. I'll give you the last word.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yes. I think what this country did need, and this
is why we have President Trump, is we needed a
businessman to run the country, because obviously politicians and the
pastors weren't doing the job, and he stuck to his
guns to everything that he said he was going to do.
He followed through, and I think that's why the Democrats
don't like him.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I think you're a very, very astute, intelligent, incredible listener
to this show. That's why I love this audience so much.
A lot of times you're smarter than the host. All right,
quick break. Right back to our busy phones. It's toll-free 800-941-SHAWN.
You want to be a part of the program, big
and rich. What about AI song making? It's a problem.
(11:10):
Or AI dating. People date robots and they fall in
love with them. Problem. All right, we'll have that coming
up in your calls. 800-941-SHAWN as we continue. When fake
news gives you lies, Hannity supplies the truth. Sean Hannity
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is on right now. So Linda, did you notice last
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night I had on John Fetterman?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I did see that.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Did you notice that the caller we had earlier in
the week had challenged me, why don't you ever challenge
him on the things you disagree with him on? Did
you notice I brought all of that up with him?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, I mean, listen, you guys are friends.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
It's difficult to have a combative conversation, but I thought
you had a constructive conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, that's the thing. You can have a conversation with him.
Can I have a conversation with Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries,
any DSA person? No, I can't.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Well, you can, but they won't have it with you.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
No, they won't, because they really can't justify their deafening
silence against radicalism, which now controls their party. And, you know,
but there are very key issues that we do agree on.
He supports the president's constitutional authority to be commander in chief.
He supports Israel. He supported taking out Iran's nuclear capability.
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Are we going to disagree over his position on abortion,
the Second Amendment, over the right of men to play
women's sports? I vehemently disagree with him. But I can
have the discussion in a way that is, I think,
beneficial to people who would listen to it.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I mean, I think the harder issue that we have
here is that we have.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
This is my opinion, I want to preface this.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Hold on. Hold on. Ethan, can you put your finger
on the dump button immediately?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I'm not going to curse.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I'm just going to say something you don't agree with,
which is I don't believe that we have a right
and a left.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I believe we have an us and them. They are
the uniparty.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
The Republicans don't do crap. The Democrats do everything wrong.
So at the end of the day, we have feckless
Republicans and go get them Democrats. And the combination all
equals the same thing. The American people lose all day,
every day. So until the right can stand up for themselves,
by all means, have at it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I agree there are weak Republicans. I've said it often.
I say it today. We can go to the SAVE
Act as Exhibit A. Here's where you're wrong. It's not
a uniparty when the Republicans stand steadfast against this radical
agenda eliminating the Senate. You no longer get to pick
the president. Packing the courts.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Right, but they're not doing that for us. They're doing
that for them.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
No, no, that's not the Uniparty. They don't believe in
it and they state they don't believe in it. I
don't know one Republican that believes in this insanity. So
at times, yeah, do I wish they were stronger and
they had more resolve and they had the backbone of
Donald Trump, which is made of steel? Yes, I do. However,
it's not a uniparty if they want to defund the
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Department of War, defund and abolish ICE, open borders, full amnesty,
no deportation, a cradle to grave, womb to tomb society.
There's no uniparty that's supporting that. There's no Republican supporting that. Now,
Are there some weak Republicans? I will concede the point.
I make the point myself. But a uniparty? Eh.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Let me tell you something. All we ever needed to
see was the SAVE Act. Five weeks of vacation. Elections
are not protected. DHS and ICE are having a very
hard time getting their jobs done. And that's because too
many Republicans are taking it easy and they're too quiet.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
They are not the many, they are the few.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
But that doesn't mean they support The, you know, no borders,
open borders, amnesty.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Well, you know what? Silence is complicit.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
No funding of ICE.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
They're real quiet. But it's not silence. It's not silence.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
We've got 435 members of Congress. You can stand up.
You have majority.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
You're waiting until you're the weak link, and then you'll say,
I wish I could do something, but I don't have
the majority.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Some of your criticism is valid. Some of it is just,
you know, if it was a uniparty, they'd be all
for the DSA. They're not.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
They're not one.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I'm not disagreeing that they're weak. Many of them. Too
many of them. You know, you know, you can find
out they don't want to come on the show. That's
a kind of big litmus test. And there's too many
of them.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
That's a great.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
That's one of their hits. So, you know, I love
about big and rich. And before I introduce them, they're
going to be with us in a second. I love
the fact that you go to one of their concerts
and you are going up and down and emotional and,
you know, all the things that mirror life. They capture
it in their music in so many different ways. And
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I just love everything about them. And, you know, they're
now into... this Hello AI issue, which we're going to
get into in a second. Let me first explain what's happening,
because they're now turning their attention to artificial intelligence, copyright,
the future of the songwriting business, the music industry, as
they're racing towards a new licensing model. You know what's
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been happening, and a lot of people don't know, and
some people don't even care, and they should care, that
there have been number one, charting number one songs that
have been completely written and and sung by artificial intelligence.
I mean, it's kind of mind-numbing. Okay, but what about
the really creative people that do this for a living? Now,
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I mean, the music industry has been transformed already in
a multitude of ways. When streaming came online and people
weren't buying an album or a CD, they were now
buying individual songs versus the entire album, which hurt a
lot of performers in a lot of different ways, financially,
et cetera, et cetera. But for two decades, Big & Rich,
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they built their career. They don't play anything safe. I mean,
they are rock and roll, country music, through and through.
And it just is, it's what I love about people
that are irreverent, politically incorrect, that they don't care, and
they say it like they see it. So Hello AI
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continues this tradition, and the conversation is about something that
may reshape the entire business, which has been their home
for decades, and that's artificial intelligence, ownership, and value of
human creativity. Let me play this for you. Now, this
is a cut of big and rich Hello AI. Let
me play a little bit of this.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Rhythm.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Force.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
Frequency.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Force.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
Word maker.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Record.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Here is your song. Flesh and blood and bone and
a pencil wrote this song. Human hearts and souls will
all gather and sing along. There's some things you can't.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Fake, program or automate.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
Carbon and silicon just ain't the same thing.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Hey, hello.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
You can rip a cheap recording, but let's see you
play it live.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Hey, hello.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
Tell me where your soul goes when we cut your power.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Tell me where your soul goes. All right, so they're
raising big questions here. Who determines what a song is
worth when it comes to, you know, training material for
a machine? Because you can duplicate Big and Rich's own voices.
Big Kenny, John Rich. AI can duplicate it. They can
duplicate my voice. Anyway, Big and Rich are with us.
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John Rich, Big Kenny. Guys, what's going on? Good to
talk to y'all.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Sean with you, man.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I think I'm just going to have AI write a
song and sing it. Cause I can't sing as you know,
both know to save my life. And I, maybe I
can become a country music star. Like I always wanted
to be, what do you think guys?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
It's it's yeah, it's possible. I mean, honestly, your opening monologue,
Sean is absolutely spot on. So AI uses human-created content
to train itself on to then plagiarize that human-created content
that is all copywritten, by the way, and then those
recordings find themselves on iTunes, Apple Music, Amazon, Spotify, and
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the rest, to which they are then monetized. So if
a human being... sat down and took 10 or 20
songs and picked the best parts of those 10 or 20,
created a new song and put it out to be monetized,
we would be in a courtroom so fast it would
make your head spin. But when an AI program does it,
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nothing is done about it. Here's an interesting fact, and
then I'll turn this over to you and Kenny. AI
is not allowed to own a copyright. The United States
of America's copyright law strictly says only a human being
can own a copyright. So if AI cannot own a copyright,
how is it legal to then monetize the content that
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it is plagiarizing?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, you two are the only two really that would
be courageous enough to take this on. Big Kenny, You know,
and you guys raised this question, who determines what a
song's worth when it becomes training material for a machine?
You know, does technology exist to serve human creativity or,
you know, or will human creativity eventually exist to feed technology?
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I mean, these are real questions.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, no doubt. You know, as John just said earlier, Well,
he has a previous quote. He says, right now, this
is the marketing of mass plagiarism. You know, some set
off of one AI application for songs. Now, one app
is putting out over 7 million songs a day. The entire,
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I looked up one statistic of what's the recorded copyright
catalog of the United States. And, you know, I get
different numbers every time, but it comes out around 40 million, right?
That are songs that are cataloged in BMI or ASCAP. Well,
the sheer numbers that are being put out on a
daily basis now by AI. It's diluting the songs down
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to where, what are they going to mean? So you can,
you can't, you know, let's say that you can show
that the song was plagiarized. It sounds like something else
that was done. How can you sue 7 million songs?
It just, it just got to a point where what
we saw is like, good God, what's going on here, man?
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I mean, this is just getting out of control. No
one's talking about it. No one's really bringing it up.
I think, you know, let me back up for a
second and say no doubt AI, artificial intelligence, has vast benefits.
I mean, I believe, you know, I use it pretty
much everybody uses it daily. If you pick up your
phone and use any application on your phone, you're using
some sort of AI. There's efficiencies in it. The potential of,
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you know, that it could cure diseases, that it can,
you know, cataloged through information so much faster than anybody
else can. It's just amazing. But also the possibility that
it is so much smarter than any human could ever
possibly be allows for the potential that it could get
away from us and get out of hand. So what
we realized is that, wow, this thing's moving so absolutely fast.
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fast right now no one's having a conversation we need
to like tap the brakes a little bit and go
wow maybe there needs to be some guardrails put on
this maybe there's gotta we need to be doing something
to make sure this stays between the mustard the mayonnaise
and uh there's not some big wreck inside of our
industry because uh you know there's a lot of entertainers
out there there's a lot of songwriters out there a
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lot of musicians and creative people that we care immensely
for and we would hate to see their entire livelihoods
just kicked out from under In a.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Lot of ways, I mean, the timing of your career,
both of you, kind of makes you immune to it
because you built up a song library that is long
and extensive. And if you just stayed on the road
and played your hits, you're going to pack arenas all
around the country. You've worked hard to get to that position. But, John,
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you bring up the issue of technology. Like all things
that are made, they can be used for good and
they can be used for evil. But there's one word
in that song that you guys put together that really
stood out to me, and that's, what about the soul?
AI doesn't have a soul. And, you know, I, like you,
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am a practicing Christian. I believe my faith. It is
in the forefront of my mind. And I, it is
of paramount importance to me. I believe human beings are mind.
You exercise your mind, you expand your mind, you learn
more body. You want to stay physically fit, but also
there is a spiritual component in that we were all
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created by the same God, our creator that put inside us,
you know, individually, not only our own unique fingerprint and DNA,
but something called talent. And the idea is to bring
that talent out of people. So That is missing from
this equation. There's no soul behind this music.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yeah, I mean, lyrics and melody, Sean, come from the
human soul. That's where it comes from. That's why music
is such a powerful thing to people that create it
and to the people that hear it. And so what
you've got is AI programming now ripping from the actual
soul of human beings. And then to my point, my
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larger point, then it's being monetized at a mass scale.
It is the mass... It is the mass plagiarism that's
happening right now. So our push is through Congress. Right now,
there are major multi-billion dollar lawsuits being levied against Suno, Anthropic,
and others. But Kenny and I look at it at
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even a more broad stroke. And that it should be
as illegal to monetize AI-generated music as it is illegal
to spend a counterfeit $ 100 bill, or as it is
illegal to run a chop shop and take 10 stolen
vehicles and cut them into pieces and resell them. That's
exactly what we're looking at here. Tim Burchett, Representative Burchett,
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reached out to me and is interested in a bipartisan
bill because this is not a political issue. This is
everybody dealing with this, a bipartisan bill that would look
to put those guardrails around AI when it comes to
generated music.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You know what also scares me, John, and I'll get
Big Kenny's take on this. I mean, you have these
stories and I read constantly all day long, all night long.
I'm a total, complete loser, as both of you know.
And when I read stories about people that are having, quote,
relationships with AI manufactured robots, right? I'm like, okay, that
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is as soulless as it can get. You know, find
a real boyfriend or girlfriend, in my mind. And it's like, oh,
you're getting satisfied by a robot and you're believing it's
real and you feel attached to it, emotionally attached to it.
Does it get any more bizarre than that?
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
By the way, Big Kenny's going to admit that he's
been doing that. I mean, I know that, Big Kenny,
but you can keep it a secret if you want.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
No, you can't give your heart to Jesus. You've got
no soul to burn in hell how long before you
try to take the place of God himself. I mean,
you're absolutely right, man. There's certain things that we don't
need to be artificial in our lives. You know, they
call it artificial intelligence because it's artificial. It ain't real.
We need reality in our lives also. And, you know,
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we want human beings. We want to see humans. There's
no way that I'm really interested in going to see
robots perform a heartfelt song for me. You know, I
want to see human beings doing it. I think there
is a danger, you know, no different than... The danger
that we've seen, you know, social media allows everybody to
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come together and communicate so easily. But then we also
realized over the years that how much of a danger
that could also be for our children. There were people
out there that, you know, had ill intent towards them,
could easily, you know, captivate them online and turn into
terribly bad situations.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Well, they're doing that now, Big Kenny, they are. You
have countries and you have evil agendas of people that
pay millions and hundreds of millions of dollars to purposely
target young people with a message. For example, lately it's
been virulent anti-Semitism, which I reject out of hand, or
white nationalism, which I reject out of hand. Listen, I
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appreciate what you're doing. I'm going to follow the progress
of this because I think it's vital. I appreciate both
of you, your dear friends, John Rich, Big Kenny, Big
and Rich. Guys, we appreciate your time always being with us.
And thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I
hope it raises awareness to its appropriate level.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Thank you, Sean. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
But let not your heart be troubled. Day six of
the Lindsay Clancy non-verdict decision, non-decision is coming up. Anyway,
we'll have all the latest details all coming up. Hannity tonight, CETV,
our 9 Eastern on Fox. And if any big news breaks,
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I'm sure we'll be here to cover it. That's our job.
And we thank you for it because we can't do
the show without you. Thank you for being with us.
Thank you for making this show possible. Back here tomorrow.
All right, news roundup and information overload hour. Our toll-free
telephone number, you want to be a part of the program, 800-941-SHAWN.
If you want to join us, as we've been telling you,
the jury telling the judge for the second time in
the Lindsay Clancy case, they are unable to reach a verdict,
and the judge sending them back for deliberations, and that's
(00:21):
where we are. But let me... Let me get to
some phone calls here. Later on, we have Big and
Rich joining us. You know, it's a phenomenon that's happening,
and that is artificial intelligence. People are using it, and
they're creating literally millions of songs. Some of them have
charted number one. They're not real people. Where's the soul
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of music? It's like, oh, okay, we'll have a robot
do it. Just like people have robots that they're dating.
I'm like, okay, that's a little weird to me, a
little strange to me. But anyway, we'll check in with them.
This is a big deal because now you're talking about
intellectual property and it's it's it's going to it's that
is going to get dicey like any new technology. It
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could be used for good or evil. You can use
artificial intelligence. The medical community is using it. I'm I'm
pretty confident. And I'm being very conservative in this estimate
within the next decade will eradicate cancer. How? Because they
will be able to, what the greatest radiologists in our
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country will be unable to see on a scan, AI
will be able to see. And as my friend Gary
Brecker says, they'll be able to catch a cancer at
stage zero when there's like just a couple of cells.
And obviously the earlier you detect cancer in your body,
the greater the odds that you're going to beat it
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and live longer. All right, let's get to our phones.
All right, we have other topics we're going to talk
about here. We have Roy in Tennessee. What's up, Roy?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Hey, John. Hey, now that SCOTUS has allowed the ballroom
to continue, I had this idea for Trump's next construction project.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
We've found a hideous library, and we've seen the plans
for Trump's beautiful presidential library. But poor Joe. Biden is
no longer a useful idiot. He's struggling to raise the
funds for his presidential library. I think Trump should step
up to the plate to build Biden's presidential library in Delaware.
The name of the library would be the Joe Biden
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Crime Family Library and Center for Political Corruption Research. The
facility would be dedicated to memorialize the corruption for the
last 10 years, featuring many of the actual documents and
videos chronicling the political sabotage of Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Why would President Trump want to ever waste his time
on doing something like that? Well, I think it's... I mean, honestly,
I mean, he's... First of all, he's a full-time president.
We've got a big election in 62 days. I want
his attention elsewhere. And, you know, we're going to come
back after our little Labor Day break, and we're all
going to realize that we've got to, you know, we've
(03:05):
got to draw our attention and bring our friends and
family and coworkers and neighbors and strangers... along with us
and make them realize that the stakes are pretty high
this midterm election, I would argue the most important in
our lifetime. And I've said it before, but nothing compares
to this one. So, you know, as far as the Bidens,
(03:27):
I have so checked that box. Do I think there
should be accountability? Yeah, I do. Is it my top priority?
At this point, it's not. Saving our country is our
top priority, should be our top priority. You know, there
comes a point in your life, Roy, and I think
you'll agree with me, because I love the people of
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Tennessee and the people of Tennessee just remind me of
everything that's great in the country. And there comes a
point in your life where it's not about us. It's
about others. You know, this radio show is a family
and it's like a club. And I'm honored to be
a member of the club, just a member. But we
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all are, you know, we're spokes in a wheel. Not
one of us can save anything. Combined together, you know, collectively,
not in the socialist communist sense, you know, we can
restore American greatness. That's what I care about. You know,
we do have an obligation to leave this country better
off than we found it. And our future for our
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children and our grandchildren is hanging in the balance in
so many different ways. Roy, appreciate you, man. God bless you.
800-941-SHAWN if you want to be a part of the program.
Jennifer in the live free or die state of New Hampshire.
What's up, Jennifer? How are you? You know, Sig Sauer
is the largest manufacturer in your state. Isn't that amazing?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
It is amazing. And I actually used to work for
a gun manufacturing company in this great state, New Hampshire,
years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, we can win that Senate seat in New Hampshire.
We just can't.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yes, we can. The reason for my call today is
I'm really upset with the fact that all these political
ads that are coming out are scaring the American people
because they're calling this Trump's war with Iran. And it's
not a war. A constitution states that Congress is the
only one that have the authority to declare war. And
(05:27):
I don't recall Congress voting to declare war on this situation.
And it's called Operation Epic Fury. Because it's an operation.
It's not a war. But they keep, I wish they'd
have less fear-mongering and fewer political games and start working
on getting things done for the American people. This is
just wrong. And I can go back to like 1988,
(05:52):
watching him on TV, interviewing his views and his opinions
about the American people have not changed.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Look, the Donald Trump doctrine, and it is purposely mischaracterized
by people that don't like him. And that would include, obviously,
every Democrat in the country. They have Trump derangement syndrome.
That would include the legacy media mob, abusively biased and
corrupt as they are. That would include people that have
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turned on Donald Trump for whatever reason. But they purposely
distort what the Trump doctrine is. Just go back to
his first term. Yeah, he does not believe in forever wars.
He has worked steadfastly to keep boots off the ground
in Iran in this conflict. We have decimated the military elite. Now,
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the real impact is happening economically. We had Scott Besson
on TV last night going into great specificity and detail
on that. But the Trump doctrine in the first term,
what did he do? He defeated ISIS, the caliphate, and
he did it. with hardly any recognition, and he bombed
them to smithereens. And now he took off the table
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something Democrats used to support, which is preventing Iran from
ever getting or achieving their ambition of a nuclear weapon.
That benefits the entire world. And he's accomplished that. He'll
never get credit for this, just like he'll never get
credit for, you know, securing the borders the way he has.
He's done a phenomenal job securing the borders. And, you know,
(07:27):
look at what Joe Biden did, the most preventable national
security disaster in history. But he took out the ISIS caliphate, Soleimani,
the world's worst terrorist. Baghdadi, his associates, dropped the mother
of all bombs on Afghanistan. It does not mean, the
Trump doctrine does not mean isolationism. And the people that
try to define it that way are purposely misrepresenting Donald
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Trump's views, the ones that say, You know, Donald Trump
doesn't make his own decisions. Bibi makes it for them.
I mean, it's laughable. I remember in an interview with Bibi,
I asked him about that. He started laughing because that's
not the way it works with Donald Trump. And I've
known him for 30 years. I'm telling you firsthand, it's
not the way he flies. He doesn't roll like that.
(08:14):
He makes up his own mind. And, you know, to
his credit here, he was willing to hear out people
on all sides of this. I did talk to him
about it, but I'll specifically tell you what I told him.
I said, your instincts are always incredible, and Midnight Hammer
was necessary, and you did that which others would be
(08:37):
too gutless to do, and I give you all the
credit in the world for that. But I also said
to him, you have access to information I will never
have access to, but I do trust your instincts. I
think he's got incredibly keen instincts. You know, if there's
one criticism I'd give the president, I thought Newt hit
on this pretty well yesterday. If if he had only
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told the American people, hey, it's going to take a while.
We're going to cut off the head of the snake,
as Scott Besson described it economically. And along with the
economic embargo, we're going to cut off any ability to
access any of their money worldwide. It's going to be
the biggest financial squeeze of any country in history. and
(09:19):
I just need your patience, and we're going to get there,
but we're not going to put boots on the ground,
and this is not going to be a forever war.
I think he'd be probably in a better spot with
the American people on it. So maybe a communications miscalculation.
Maybe he gives too much access with these gaggles in
the Oval Office. I don't know. But that's neither here
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nor there. He accomplished that which everyone said should never happen.
And he doesn't get credit for it. Doesn't get credit
for the borders. Doesn't get credit for the largest tax
cut in history. Doesn't get credit for bringing manufacturing back
to America. Doesn't get credit for 11 trillion dollars in
committed investments for semiconductors pharmaceuticals to be made at home
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bringing back automobile manufacturing so It is what it is,
but I'll spend the next 62 days trying to help
people have a better understanding, knowing that the legacy media
has a far different agenda, and Democrats just want to
hate on him, and they've embraced socialism and don't have
the courage or moral clarity to stand against it. So
(10:25):
that's what's at stake. I'll give you the last word.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Yes. I think what this country did need, and this
is why we have President Trump, is we needed a
businessman to run the country, because obviously politicians and the
pastors weren't doing the job, and he stuck to his
guns to everything that he said he was going to do.
He followed through, and I think that's why the Democrats
don't like him.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I think you're a very, very astute, intelligent, incredible listener
to this show. That's why I love this audience so much.
A lot of times you're smarter than the host. All right,
quick break. Right back to our busy phones. It's toll-free 800-941-SHAWN.
You want to be a part of the program, big
and rich. What about AI song making? It's a problem.
(11:10):
Or AI dating. People date robots and they fall in
love with them. Problem. All right, we'll have that coming
up in your calls. 800-941-SHAWN as we continue. When fake
news gives you lies, Hannity supplies the truth. Sean Hannity
(11:32):
is on right now. So Linda, did you notice last
(12:09):
night I had on John Fetterman?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I did see that.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Did you notice that the caller we had earlier in
the week had challenged me, why don't you ever challenge
him on the things you disagree with him on? Did
you notice I brought all of that up with him?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, I mean, listen, you guys are friends.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
It's difficult to have a combative conversation, but I thought
you had a constructive conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, that's the thing. You can have a conversation with him.
Can I have a conversation with Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries,
any DSA person? No, I can't.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Well, you can, but they won't have it with you.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
No, they won't, because they really can't justify their deafening
silence against radicalism, which now controls their party. And, you know,
but there are very key issues that we do agree on.
He supports the president's constitutional authority to be commander in chief.
He supports Israel. He supported taking out Iran's nuclear capability.
(13:05):
Are we going to disagree over his position on abortion,
the Second Amendment, over the right of men to play
women's sports? I vehemently disagree with him. But I can
have the discussion in a way that is, I think,
beneficial to people who would listen to it.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I mean, I think the harder issue that we have
here is that we have.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
This is my opinion, I want to preface this.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Hold on. Hold on. Ethan, can you put your finger
on the dump button immediately?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
I'm not going to curse.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I'm just going to say something you don't agree with,
which is I don't believe that we have a right
and a left.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
I believe we have an us and them. They are
the uniparty.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
The Republicans don't do crap. The Democrats do everything wrong.
So at the end of the day, we have feckless
Republicans and go get them Democrats. And the combination all
equals the same thing. The American people lose all day,
every day. So until the right can stand up for themselves,
by all means, have at it.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I agree there are weak Republicans. I've said it often.
I say it today. We can go to the SAVE
Act as Exhibit A. Here's where you're wrong. It's not
a uniparty when the Republicans stand steadfast against this radical
agenda eliminating the Senate. You no longer get to pick
the president. Packing the courts.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Right, but they're not doing that for us. They're doing
that for them.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
No, no, that's not the Uniparty. They don't believe in
it and they state they don't believe in it. I
don't know one Republican that believes in this insanity. So
at times, yeah, do I wish they were stronger and
they had more resolve and they had the backbone of
Donald Trump, which is made of steel? Yes, I do. However,
it's not a uniparty if they want to defund the
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Department of War, defund and abolish ICE, open borders, full amnesty,
no deportation, a cradle to grave, womb to tomb society.
There's no uniparty that's supporting that. There's no Republican supporting that. Now,
Are there some weak Republicans? I will concede the point.
I make the point myself. But a uniparty? Eh.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Let me tell you something. All we ever needed to
see was the SAVE Act. Five weeks of vacation. Elections
are not protected. DHS and ICE are having a very
hard time getting their jobs done. And that's because too
many Republicans are taking it easy and they're too quiet.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
They are not the many, they are the few.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
But that doesn't mean they support The, you know, no borders,
open borders, amnesty.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Well, you know what? Silence is complicit.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
No funding of ICE.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
They're real quiet. But it's not silence. It's not silence.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
We've got 435 members of Congress. You can stand up.
You have majority.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
You're waiting until you're the weak link, and then you'll say,
I wish I could do something, but I don't have
the majority.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Some of your criticism is valid. Some of it is just,
you know, if it was a uniparty, they'd be all
for the DSA. They're not.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
They're not one.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I'm not disagreeing that they're weak. Many of them. Too
many of them. You know, you know, you can find
out they don't want to come on the show. That's
a kind of big litmus test. And there's too many
of them.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
That's a great.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
That's one of their hits. So, you know, I love
about big and rich. And before I introduce them, they're
going to be with us in a second. I love
the fact that you go to one of their concerts
and you are going up and down and emotional and,
you know, all the things that mirror life. They capture
it in their music in so many different ways. And
(16:26):
I just love everything about them. And, you know, they're
now into... this Hello AI issue, which we're going to
get into in a second. Let me first explain what's happening,
because they're now turning their attention to artificial intelligence, copyright,
the future of the songwriting business, the music industry, as
they're racing towards a new licensing model. You know what's
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been happening, and a lot of people don't know, and
some people don't even care, and they should care, that
there have been number one, charting number one songs that
have been completely written and and sung by artificial intelligence.
I mean, it's kind of mind-numbing. Okay, but what about
the really creative people that do this for a living? Now,
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I mean, the music industry has been transformed already in
a multitude of ways. When streaming came online and people
weren't buying an album or a CD, they were now
buying individual songs versus the entire album, which hurt a
lot of performers in a lot of different ways, financially,
et cetera, et cetera. But for two decades, Big & Rich,
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they built their career. They don't play anything safe. I mean,
they are rock and roll, country music, through and through.
And it just is, it's what I love about people
that are irreverent, politically incorrect, that they don't care, and
they say it like they see it. So Hello AI
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continues this tradition, and the conversation is about something that
may reshape the entire business, which has been their home
for decades, and that's artificial intelligence, ownership, and value of
human creativity. Let me play this for you. Now, this
is a cut of big and rich Hello AI. Let
me play a little bit of this.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Rhythm.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Force.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
Frequency.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Force.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
Word maker.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Record.
Speaker 8 (18:24):
Here is your song. Flesh and blood and bone and
a pencil wrote this song. Human hearts and souls will
all gather and sing along. There's some things you can't.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Fake, program or automate.
Speaker 8 (18:50):
Carbon and silicon just ain't the same thing.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Hey, hello.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
You can rip a cheap recording, but let's see you
play it live.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Hey, hello.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
Tell me where your soul goes when we cut your power.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Tell me where your soul goes. All right, so they're
raising big questions here. Who determines what a song is
worth when it comes to, you know, training material for
a machine? Because you can duplicate Big and Rich's own voices.
Big Kenny, John Rich. AI can duplicate it. They can
duplicate my voice. Anyway, Big and Rich are with us.
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John Rich, Big Kenny. Guys, what's going on? Good to
talk to y'all.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:47):
Sean with you, man.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I think I'm just going to have AI write a
song and sing it. Cause I can't sing as you know,
both know to save my life. And I, maybe I
can become a country music star. Like I always wanted
to be, what do you think guys?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
It's it's yeah, it's possible. I mean, honestly, your opening monologue,
Sean is absolutely spot on. So AI uses human-created content
to train itself on to then plagiarize that human-created content
that is all copywritten, by the way, and then those
recordings find themselves on iTunes, Apple Music, Amazon, Spotify, and
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the rest, to which they are then monetized. So if
a human being... sat down and took 10 or 20
songs and picked the best parts of those 10 or 20,
created a new song and put it out to be monetized,
we would be in a courtroom so fast it would
make your head spin. But when an AI program does it,
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nothing is done about it. Here's an interesting fact, and
then I'll turn this over to you and Kenny. AI
is not allowed to own a copyright. The United States
of America's copyright law strictly says only a human being
can own a copyright. So if AI cannot own a copyright,
how is it legal to then monetize the content that
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it is plagiarizing?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Well, you two are the only two really that would
be courageous enough to take this on. Big Kenny, You know,
and you guys raised this question, who determines what a
song's worth when it becomes training material for a machine?
You know, does technology exist to serve human creativity or,
you know, or will human creativity eventually exist to feed technology?
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I mean, these are real questions.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, no doubt. You know, as John just said earlier, Well,
he has a previous quote. He says, right now, this
is the marketing of mass plagiarism. You know, some set
off of one AI application for songs. Now, one app
is putting out over 7 million songs a day. The entire,
(21:59):
I looked up one statistic of what's the recorded copyright
catalog of the United States. And, you know, I get
different numbers every time, but it comes out around 40 million, right?
That are songs that are cataloged in BMI or ASCAP. Well,
the sheer numbers that are being put out on a
daily basis now by AI. It's diluting the songs down
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to where, what are they going to mean? So you can,
you can't, you know, let's say that you can show
that the song was plagiarized. It sounds like something else
that was done. How can you sue 7 million songs?
It just, it just got to a point where what
we saw is like, good God, what's going on here, man?
(22:40):
I mean, this is just getting out of control. No
one's talking about it. No one's really bringing it up.
I think, you know, let me back up for a
second and say no doubt AI, artificial intelligence, has vast benefits.
I mean, I believe, you know, I use it pretty
much everybody uses it daily. If you pick up your
phone and use any application on your phone, you're using
some sort of AI. There's efficiencies in it. The potential of,
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you know, that it could cure diseases, that it can,
you know, cataloged through information so much faster than anybody
else can. It's just amazing. But also the possibility that
it is so much smarter than any human could ever
possibly be allows for the potential that it could get
away from us and get out of hand. So what
we realized is that, wow, this thing's moving so absolutely fast.
(23:27):
fast right now no one's having a conversation we need
to like tap the brakes a little bit and go
wow maybe there needs to be some guardrails put on
this maybe there's gotta we need to be doing something
to make sure this stays between the mustard the mayonnaise
and uh there's not some big wreck inside of our
industry because uh you know there's a lot of entertainers
out there there's a lot of songwriters out there a
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lot of musicians and creative people that we care immensely
for and we would hate to see their entire livelihoods
just kicked out from under In a.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Lot of ways, I mean, the timing of your career,
both of you, kind of makes you immune to it
because you built up a song library that is long
and extensive. And if you just stayed on the road
and played your hits, you're going to pack arenas all
around the country. You've worked hard to get to that position. But, John,
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you bring up the issue of technology. Like all things
that are made, they can be used for good and
they can be used for evil. But there's one word
in that song that you guys put together that really
stood out to me, and that's, what about the soul?
AI doesn't have a soul. And, you know, I, like you,
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am a practicing Christian. I believe my faith. It is
in the forefront of my mind. And I, it is
of paramount importance to me. I believe human beings are mind.
You exercise your mind, you expand your mind, you learn
more body. You want to stay physically fit, but also
there is a spiritual component in that we were all
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created by the same God, our creator that put inside us,
you know, individually, not only our own unique fingerprint and DNA,
but something called talent. And the idea is to bring
that talent out of people. So That is missing from
this equation. There's no soul behind this music.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yeah, I mean, lyrics and melody, Sean, come from the
human soul. That's where it comes from. That's why music
is such a powerful thing to people that create it
and to the people that hear it. And so what
you've got is AI programming now ripping from the actual
soul of human beings. And then to my point, my
(25:39):
larger point, then it's being monetized at a mass scale.
It is the mass... It is the mass plagiarism that's
happening right now. So our push is through Congress. Right now,
there are major multi-billion dollar lawsuits being levied against Suno, Anthropic,
and others. But Kenny and I look at it at
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even a more broad stroke. And that it should be
as illegal to monetize AI-generated music as it is illegal
to spend a counterfeit $ 100 bill, or as it is
illegal to run a chop shop and take 10 stolen
vehicles and cut them into pieces and resell them. That's
exactly what we're looking at here. Tim Burchett, Representative Burchett,
(26:22):
reached out to me and is interested in a bipartisan
bill because this is not a political issue. This is
everybody dealing with this, a bipartisan bill that would look
to put those guardrails around AI when it comes to
generated music.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You know what also scares me, John, and I'll get
Big Kenny's take on this. I mean, you have these
stories and I read constantly all day long, all night long.
I'm a total, complete loser, as both of you know.
And when I read stories about people that are having, quote,
relationships with AI manufactured robots, right? I'm like, okay, that
(27:06):
is as soulless as it can get. You know, find
a real boyfriend or girlfriend, in my mind. And it's like, oh,
you're getting satisfied by a robot and you're believing it's
real and you feel attached to it, emotionally attached to it.
Does it get any more bizarre than that?
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
By the way, Big Kenny's going to admit that he's
been doing that. I mean, I know that, Big Kenny,
but you can keep it a secret if you want.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
No, you can't give your heart to Jesus. You've got
no soul to burn in hell how long before you
try to take the place of God himself. I mean,
you're absolutely right, man. There's certain things that we don't
need to be artificial in our lives. You know, they
call it artificial intelligence because it's artificial. It ain't real.
We need reality in our lives also. And, you know,
(27:54):
we want human beings. We want to see humans. There's
no way that I'm really interested in going to see
robots perform a heartfelt song for me. You know, I
want to see human beings doing it. I think there
is a danger, you know, no different than... The danger
that we've seen, you know, social media allows everybody to
(28:15):
come together and communicate so easily. But then we also
realized over the years that how much of a danger
that could also be for our children. There were people
out there that, you know, had ill intent towards them,
could easily, you know, captivate them online and turn into
terribly bad situations.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Well, they're doing that now, Big Kenny, they are. You
have countries and you have evil agendas of people that
pay millions and hundreds of millions of dollars to purposely
target young people with a message. For example, lately it's
been virulent anti-Semitism, which I reject out of hand, or
white nationalism, which I reject out of hand. Listen, I
(29:01):
appreciate what you're doing. I'm going to follow the progress
of this because I think it's vital. I appreciate both
of you, your dear friends, John Rich, Big Kenny, Big
and Rich. Guys, we appreciate your time always being with us.
And thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I
hope it raises awareness to its appropriate level.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
Thank you, Sean. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
All right, that's going to wrap things up for today.
But let not your heart be troubled. Day six of
the Lindsay Clancy non-verdict decision, non-decision is coming up. Anyway,
we'll have all the latest details all coming up. Hannity tonight, CETV,
our 9 Eastern on Fox. And if any big news breaks,
(29:41):
I'm sure we'll be here to cover it. That's our job.
And we thank you for it because we can't do
the show without you. Thank you for being with us.
Thank you for making this show possible. Back here tomorrow.
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