May 13, 2026 • 32 mins
Rose is joined by Jan Jekielek of The Epoch Times to discuss his book Killed to Order and the disturbing allegations of forced organ harvesting in China. Jekielek explains how political and religious minorities, including Falun Gong practitioners, Uyghur Muslims, and possibly underground Christians, have been targeted through imprisonment, dehumanization, and medical exploitation. The hour also covers legislative efforts in Congress to confront forced organ harvesting, including sanctions and restrictions on U.S. support for transplant-related cooperation with China. Rose later turns to Marco Rubio’s 2015 warning about Iran, praising his judgment on sanctions relief, missile development, terrorism, and Iran’s nuclear ambitions, before closing with listener calls on law enforcement, faith, Rubio, and America’s political future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose,
and I promise you I really am taking phone calls
at the half hour, so get them in now. One
eight hundred ninety four to one Seawan one eight hundred
nine four one seven, three two six Joining me now
is someone who has spent years asking the hard questions
and pursuing truth, even when it leads to some of
(00:20):
the most difficult and controversial areas of our time. His
name is Jan Ukalik. He's an author, senior editor with
Epoch Times, and hosts of American Thought Leaders. He's known
for his thoughtful, long form conversations that challenge prevailing narratives
and dig beneath the surface. In his latest book, Killed
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to Order, China's organ harvesting industry and the True nature
of America's biggest adversary, he turns his focus to one
of the most disturbing and unfortunately underreported human rights abuses
of our time, and that's forced organ harvesting. I've had
him on my show, I wanted to bring him on Sean's.
Jan thank you so much much for joining me, and
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thank you for the work that you've done over the years.
Uncovering stories like the one that we're about to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Roach, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You know, let's start with defining what forced organ harvesting
is and how it differs from conventional organ trafficking or
black market transplants.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Even well, as you point out, this is a whole
different level of organ trafficking, and it takes a very
unique situation that really only has happened in communist China. So,
first of all, this is a regime that's a totalitarian regime,
and it has this habit, this long history of picking
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groups of people in society and turning them into what
they call black classes. So basically, like they pick a group,
they say, this group is the enemy of the state,
and as a society, we need to struggle against them,
we need to re educate them, we need to change
their thinking. Doesn't need necessarily kill everybody. But in the
early days, it was land, so they wanted to basically
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take their land, and they need to get the buy
in of the society, So they push this massive dehumanizing
propaganda through the system to kind of justify it in
people's minds, and it's kind of it actually creates that
sort of a thing when you pass massive propaganda through
a system. So you know, we're talking about stuff straight
out of nineteen thirties Germany, like this very very extreme
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thing saying people are dangerous, that they're lesser than you are,
that they're you know, pariahs, this kind of thing. Okay,
that's one piece. There's a second piece, which is that
you have to have the ability to incarcerate a massive
group of people. And the CCP does. It has this
massive system of prisons, re education, cancer education through labor camps,
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labor camps, black jails and so forth, milt with a
capacity of millions of people. So these two elements are
actually what set the stage for being able to do
this kind of killed to order for st organ harvesting.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And when you talk.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
About groups, I mean, now I think where this is concerned,
it's largely made up of religious groups, am I.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, So this is how it started. Okay, we actually
got a whistleblower, a transplant surgeon named Yaka Levi. This
was back in two thousand and five. He had a
patient who was able to organize a transplant for a
heart in two weeks. So this set off a whole
bunch of red flags, right, one is well, Remember, in
a ethical transplant situation, someone needs to have a catastrophic
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accident to give a heart right and then that to
be able not to be rejected by the body.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
So the blood.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Type and tissue type need to match, and that sort
of thing size also needs to match. But here right
this basically on the one hand, you're getting a scheduled transplant,
which means that that catastrophic accident is being arranged, and
number two, you're doing it really quickly. So this unique
set of variables that in a normal place people have
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to wait months or years, right you basically you can
get it in two weeks. So what they did is,
as you point out religious dissidents. In nineteen ninety nine
in China, there was a new black class that was created.
It was a spiritual movement. It's kind of a type
of chigong, so these slow motion exercises, but also a
deep adherence to principles truthfulness, compassion, forbearance, this kind of thing,
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and this group by word of mouth, it was very grassroots,
very bottom up. Basically, there's no hierarchy in the system,
there's no worship in the system, there's no collecting of
money and it's by word of mouth. It grew to
be seventy to one hundred million people when in thirteen
Chinese was doing this spiritual discipline and the regime decided
to crush it to eradicate it. So they created felan
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Goong as this new black class that then all of
society was supposed to struggle against. And the Felngong actually
resisted in numbers that had never happened before in the
history of communist China. They wouldn't allow themselves to be
re educated, so then they incarcerated a massive number of them.
We don't know how many, maybe a million, maybe more.
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And then this is how you get killed to order,
because they start to blood type and tissue type and
organs candem basically in the system in this prison and
re education through the labor through camp system and everything.
And now, when let's say I'm a wealthy transplant tourist
and I pay my one hundred or two hundred grand,
which by the way people were doing, there's somebody already
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in the system that has that perfect match for me,
because there's so many people that have already been put
into a database, and then that person can be shipped
and killed to order, and that's what we're talking about.
This is a very extreme form of organ trafficking that
could only happen in a totalitarian regime.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So I mean when you talk about fell in Gong
and other vulnerable groups, I mean that can include Christians
as well, because just because someone doesn't understand that spirituality
or that religion or religious movement, that doesn't mean that
their religion is excluded, particularly when it comes to China.
So I mean it's something that everyone needs to be
concerned about. And any any human being though that here's
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the story, and isn't moved by it. I don't understand,
because there all are are vulnerable groups you just named
them following gone, and there could be others underground Christians
because they too refused to be re educated in these camps,
as well as the fell and Gong members.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, Rose, you hit the nail on the head. So
this is what happened.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
They basically worked on the founday. They built this whole
industry the first five years between two thousand two thousand
and five, they build over well I don't know if
it's over, but one hundred and fifty transplant hospitals, odd
transplant hospitals doing this, and then by the time we
get to twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen, no one had
really done much about it. They hadn't really been challenged
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in the meaningfully. So they added another group. This was
actually the weaker Muslims in the Northwest and Shangja what
they call Shanjong Autonomous Region, and then they started working
on that. They added they dehumanized them, They incarcerated a
million plus of them, and in that up there it's
run like a police state. And up there people are
even blood types and tissue type in their homes. Okay,
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it's database. And now to your point, when it comes
to the house Christians, you've noticed probably that there's been
this significant uptick in the persecution of Christians. We've got
this whole Zion Church that's been rolled up right, there's
still the lead pastor and many other pastors are still
in prison. There's been these controls put in against the
Catholic clergy and so forth. And I've actually noticed an
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uptick in this kind of dehumanizing rhetoric that we saw
against the fell and Gong, that we saw against the
Wigers against Christians. This is anecdotal I've been done a
study on it. But I've also talked to a pastor
out of China AID in Midland, Texas. It's an amazing
ministry that helps persecuted Christians, and he says he's seeing
the same thing. So I'm very concerned because these types
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of atrocities, kind of violations, they spread, and by the way,
you know, we're not totally innocent of it. We've even
trained some of these surgeons. I don't know if we
knew we knew exactly who we were a training or
what they were going to do, but some of these transplants,
surgents have actually been traded in America, and we you know,
we have these transplant relationships, hospital relationships, funding relationships. There's
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a lot of ways in which we're involved, which is
deeply unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well I'm sorry, but once we hear about it like
we are right now in your book, then there's no
excuse for that. There is absolutely no excuse. And I
want to share with the audience just how prevalent this is.
I mean, how many are we looking at here in
terms of victims? Tens of thousands more.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So, the best estimate that we have is about sixty
to ninety thousand transplants annually per year. We estimate that's
about a nine billion dollar annual industry. So this is
not a small scale thing. Just for contrast, right, last
year was the record number of transplants in the US
and that was forty thousand transplants. So this is a
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this is a big thing.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's a big thing. It's a big money maker over there.
And I think, if I remember correctly, the last time
I spoke to you, you shared with me that one
person could be donating more than just one organ.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It could be hit up a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So there's this amazing technology called Ekmo, which was basically
I think around twenty twelve is when it came online,
and what Echmo allowed was for in the US, for example,
it kind of replaces your heart and lungs when you
need like surge serious surgery done in those areas. The
vascular surgeons plug you in and then it sort of
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bypasses that part but keeps your blood circulating and so forth. Well,
one piece of evidence we got around this force organ
harvesting was a lot of the transplant hospitals bought large
numbers of these portable ECMO machines, so then you can
keep easy. You can't transplant from a body that's the
circulation has already stopped for a significant amount of time,
the organs degrade and they it rejected. But if you
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can profuse the body using an x ecmo machine, you
can transplant multiple organs without having you know, the kind
of the recipients right there right in sight. So so yes,
absolutely you can get more these days since twenty twelve plus,
you can get more organs out of a single body.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
You know, you I think there was one.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
There was a known survivor, or at least the first
known survivor of forced organ harvesting. Can you just share
a little bit about who he was and some of
the verified details.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
One hundred percent? And I, you know, I kind of
detail his story at the beginning of Kill to Order,
by the way, that's that Killedtoorder dot com. If anyone
is interested in picking up the book, the short link
to the Amazon link. But Chun py Ming, he didn't
even know what had happened to him. He was one
of these people who was standing up from Tongong, resisting
being re educated, so to speak to They incarcerated him
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and tortured him in the process. There was this unwritten
rule that on a Fellongong deb's in the system would
be considered suicides. In other words, you can torture these
people as hard as you need to to break them,
to break their spirit. So he wasn't he wasn't going
to do it. And you know, one day he was
actually woke up after you know, he had been protesting,
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and you know, he just remembers, he wakes up, he
has this giant gash in his side and feels horrible
and he doesn't know what's happened. And you know, he
ends up healing up a bit from this, and it's
only much later he actually gets out. It's a bit
of a miracle kind of escapes from that place. And
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he only realizes much later that it's possible that he
had been organ harvest And it would be hard to
explain this, but it actually took you know, organ scans
in America, right. He was actually rescued out of from
Thailand where he was hiding out after he escaped by
Bob Destro who's the under Trump forty five, was the
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Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Rights and Labor. Then
he got scanned and we discovered that he was missing
part of his kid, part of his liver, and part
of his lung. And we're not sure believe what lung
doesn't regenerate the livers. You can actually harvest part of
a liver and that regenerates. And this was done against
his will, and Chinese regime even admitted to the fact
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that they operated on him, which of course was against
as well. So it's just an unbelievable story. That's hard
to have.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Them, it really is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And we only have like two minutes here, but you
know this has been so underreported, and now you know,
China is big in the news because of course our
president is there right now. What can you tell us
in about a minute a half and a half what
concrete steps that Congress or the Trump administration itself can
take to expose this and and put some legislation into
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play right now.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Well, there's a few things we can do. I'll just
talk about the federal level since we don't have a
ton of time, But there are pieces of legislation that
have passed the House near unanimously. One is S four
zero zero nine. That's the Senate version of a bill
that's bipartisan. There's another House Bill HR fifteen oh three.
Both of these are very powerful pieces of legislation that
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just need to be brought to the floor in the Senate.
They sanction some of the bad guys, They establish, you know,
the reality of this and the in law because this
is something there's still people out there who don't understand
this is real because it is so indeed so hard
to believe. That's that's a great starting point. And there's
also you know, we can actually just stop training these surgeons,
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providing technologies and money, funding relationships to transplant hospitals, all
of that. It's kind of a no brainer. We don't
need to be involved in this at the very least.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, it should be a no brainer. We've been talking
to jan Ya Kalik. He is the author of Killed
to Order, China's organ harvesting Industry and the True nature
of America's biggest adversary. You can find this book at
killed too Order dot com. It's a fast doating story.
You need to get it, and we need to be
talking about this. Jan thank you so much for joining
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me today.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Thank you, Rose, it's been such a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Good mind too. Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (16:32):
A couple of things I wanted to talk about because
I got to say something. You know, you've heard Presidents
Trump talk about Marco Rubio, j d Vance, how they
are the dream team. I'll tell you who's the dream
for me is Marco Rubio. I mean this guy. I
liked him way back when. I never stopped liking him.
I love that he that that he represents the Latino vote.
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But more than that, I love what a states statesman
he has shown himself to be. He's been remarkable and
just a fabulous person to watch and I'm really I'm
really impressed with him. So I always liked him. And
here's something that I think is interesting and it is
making the rounds on social media right now. This is
Rubio from twenty fifteen, and he had a warning about
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Iran and it's now resurfacing, as I said, all over
the place, and it's spot on.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Take a listen to this.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I think everything that needs to be said about the
details of this deal have already been said. I do
want to be recorded for history's purposes before I know
what was going to happen in regards to this. If
it goes through, Iran will immediately use the money that
it's receiving and sanctions relief to begin to build up
its conventional capabilities. It will establish the most dominant military
power in the region outside of the United States, and
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it will raise the price of US operating in the region.
They're going to build anti access capabilities, rockets capable of
destroying our aircraft carriers and ships. Continue to build these
swift boats that are able to come on us, these
fast boats that are able to swim our naval assets,
and they'll make it harder and harder for US troops
to be in the region. They'll also work with other
terrorist groups in the region to target American servicemen and women,
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and they may or may not deny that they're involved,
but they will target us and raise the price of
our presence in the Middle East until they hope to
completely pull US out of that region. The LOLS will
continue to build long range missiles, missiles capable of reaching
the United States. Those are not affected by this deal,
and they'll continue to build them as they've been doing.
And then at some point in the near future, when
the time is right, they will build a nuclear weapon.
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And they will do so because at that point they
will know that they have become immune, that we will
no longer be able to strike their nuclear program because
the price of doing so will be too high.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oh can you believe this? How prescient he was? He
argued in twenty fifteen that the deal was a guaranteed
pathway to nukes. So let's talk about this just for
men and unpacket funding terror. That's one of the things
that he predicted. He warned that sanctions relief would be
used to build conventional military capabilities and fund terror groups
like Kesbula and the Hooties. Okay, there you go. Missile program.
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He predicted Iran would continue building long range missile capability
of reaching the US which were not covered by the
deal and nuclear escalation, and he stated that Iran would
ultimately use the economic benefits to build nuclear weapons when
they found immune to consequences. We have allowed them to
feel immune until right now. But you know, I got
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to say, Marco Ruvio has tremendous experience in many aspects
of governing, and he has shown him spell himself, especially
with this, to be extremely wise, imprescient. And I would
love for you to call me and tell me what
you believe a dream team is, because he's number one
in my dreams. I'm gonna I'm not gonna lie one
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we've got Jerry calling from Washington State.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Hey, Jerry, how are.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You good, Rose, How are you doing well?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Thank you?
Speaker 8 (20:02):
So the reason I'm calling is I've heard you refer
to prayer requests a couple of times. It is National
Police Suite in Washington, d C. Tonight is a candlelight vigil.
So they're adding officers that fill in the line of
duty in twenty twenty eighty five to the memorial. And
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I would just like all of the listeners of your
show and Sean Hannity's show to pray for the families
and the partners of the officers that have died in
the line of duty.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Oh, indeed, they should be in our prayers. Thank you
for that, Jerry, because it's so sad and here they
put themselves on the line for us. You know, they're
willing to risk so much for us, and I just
appreciate that. And I asked that God blesses their families
and brings them peace. And I would encourage everyone to
continue to remember that. And you know, you bring up
DC and it's interesting, on a slightly different note, but similar.
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Since the National Guard has been here, it's been so different,
and you know, people outside of DC criticize the National
Guard in DC, but they have no idea what's been
going on here, what's happened in the streets. I can
name several people who have witnessed carjackings, a shooting, more
than one shooting. I'm talking about just one person alone.
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These things happened all the time. And one of the
things I was walking down the street with my son
and his daughter and we and we were coming upon
a couple of National Guard coming towards us. And they're young,
these guys, most of them, they're so young, and and
they're out there and they're suffering persecution really by so many.
But I said to my son, Hey, you know, I'm
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going to say something nice to them. He goes, yeah,
I do it every time I pass one.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So we did.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
We thank them for what they were doing, and they
were just so sweet about it. But it's made such
a difference, and really we should be praying for them
as well. I mean, they're out there, young people, and
they're keeping things in line.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
They really really are. Linda from Michigan.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
Hey, Linda, Hi Rose, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Hi, I'm glad to take it. You wanted to talk
about our Linda with a why.
Speaker 9 (22:18):
I do I do. And by the way, I'm really
appreciating hearing your voice and in your show and your
substituting for Sean today. I'm really enjoying your show. Thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I love doing it. I really do. Okay, what do
we need to do for Linda here? What's going on?
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Oh my gosh, Well, I just wanted to call and
share some love and encouragement. I noticed that when Linda
was talking with Sean because he's in China today, and
it was a very good conversation they had. But Sean,
we've given Linda.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
A hard time.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
Oh, I use the word always. Often gives Linda a
hard time for her dialect and the way she pronounces words.
I'm thinking, oh my gosh, he would never he would
never expect somebody from another region or another country to
change the way they dialect or use words or pronounced words.
So I wanted to share some love and encouragement for acceptance.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yes, yes, inclusiveness, right. I mean I love her accident,
she's like, you know, bad man. I just love that.
It's like hard and tough and right to the point
until she's yelling at me in my head sets. But
other than that, we love Linda.
Speaker 10 (23:30):
I'm gonna I'm gonna say thank you to my fellow Linda,
and thank you to Rose. And you know, part of
my charm is my yelling. And you know the problem
with Sean is and and he's you know, he's just
too tough to admit it is that if he did
not have me to make fun of, he would be
so bored, he would be just you know, missionless. And
with me in his life, he has someone to make
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fun of for as long as I breathe there. So
you know, I'm happy to give him that little little hobby.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Because ultimately we do love Sean. And if that, you know,
if that makes it life a little better than okay.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
And so kudos to you, Linda. But Linda, Linda with
a why.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I was looking for something, so I searched your name
on my email and back in twenty twenty one, I
had sent you. I don't know if you remember this.
I sent you a we Love Linda campaign that was
going on on my radio show at the time.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I don't remember, but it sounds like a great show.
I love it, Shore would hate it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yes, you love you, Linda. You're awesome. May like to
trust me. Thank you yeah, thanks Linda. All Right, Robert
from Alabama's calling in. Hey, Robert, you there, Robert.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Hi, Yes, hey you.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I don't even well, how are you?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
I've heard of you, but I've listened to a few
of your your talks. But I'd just like to chime
in on Marco Rubio. I've been in Marco Rubio's corner
for a long time. Marca Rubio is the smartest man
in the room.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yes, I agree with you one hundred percent, and.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I just kind of I guess I want to pick
your brain and ask you what's your thoughts and it's
probably the same as mine.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Well, I did share some of them already, Robert, But
I do. I feel that he's very polished. I feel
that he articulates his points very well. And the reason
that he can articulate his points so well is because
he understands his points so well. This is a man
that understands how government should be run. He is on
our team. He's a conservative, but he is very eloquent
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in defining his beliefs and his stand on certain issues.
And I think that the best thing that happened to
Marco Rubio was being part of this administration, because now
all of us got to have a little glimpse into
who he is and how he conducts himself. And it
is brilliant, absolutely brilliant. And the guy, if you go
(26:01):
back eleven year what was that twenty fifteen, so that
I peaked at fourth grade math? So what is it
eleven years ago? Eleven years ago? This man so perfectly
explained to us what would happen if that deal went
through and he was absolutely right. And I'm talking about
the joint Comprehensive Plan of Action that the Iran nuclear deal,
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and he was right. And we're going back eleven years,
So this isn't like, oh, all of a sudden. Marco
Ruby is a really smart man or the smartest man
in the room. No, he has been for a really long.
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Time, and he's very studied. I mean, he knows history,
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that in the know about this stuff, and certain people
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Rubio when it comes down to it.
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I never I didn't know that he said he made
those predictions in fifteen. I hadn't heard that clip until
just today when you played it. That. I mean, man,
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I was gonna say Linda says it better than you do,
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I'll tell you. It's a tough call between Dance and him.
I do like Mark Ruby a lot. I mean I
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The two of them are are it's a great bench
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Al that Rubio brings with him quite a bit of
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He is, he really is. You know, I think.
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is someone who has spent years asking the hard questions
and pursuing truth, even when it leads to some of
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the most difficult and controversial areas of our time. His
name is Jan Ukalik. He's an author, senior editor with
Epoch Times, and hosts of American Thought Leaders. He's known
for his thoughtful, long form conversations that challenge prevailing narratives
and dig beneath the surface. In his latest book, Killed
(00:40):
to Order, China's organ harvesting industry and the True nature
of America's biggest adversary, he turns his focus to one
of the most disturbing and unfortunately underreported human rights abuses
of our time, and that's forced organ harvesting. I've had
him on my show, I wanted to bring him on Sean's.
Jan thank you so much much for joining me, and
(01:01):
thank you for the work that you've done over the years.
Uncovering stories like the one that we're about to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Roach, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You know, let's start with defining what forced organ harvesting
is and how it differs from conventional organ trafficking or
black market transplants.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Even well, as you point out, this is a whole
different level of organ trafficking, and it takes a very
unique situation that really only has happened in communist China. So,
first of all, this is a regime that's a totalitarian regime,
and it has this habit, this long history of picking
(01:41):
groups of people in society and turning them into what
they call black classes. So basically, like they pick a group,
they say, this group is the enemy of the state,
and as a society, we need to struggle against them,
we need to re educate them, we need to change
their thinking. Doesn't need necessarily kill everybody. But in the
early days, it was land, so they wanted to basically
(02:02):
take their land, and they need to get the buy
in of the society, So they push this massive dehumanizing
propaganda through the system to kind of justify it in
people's minds, and it's kind of it actually creates that
sort of a thing when you pass massive propaganda through
a system. So you know, we're talking about stuff straight
out of nineteen thirties Germany, like this very very extreme
(02:24):
thing saying people are dangerous, that they're lesser than you are,
that they're you know, pariahs, this kind of thing. Okay,
that's one piece. There's a second piece, which is that
you have to have the ability to incarcerate a massive
group of people. And the CCP does. It has this
massive system of prisons, re education, cancer education through labor camps,
(02:47):
labor camps, black jails and so forth, milt with a
capacity of millions of people. So these two elements are
actually what set the stage for being able to do
this kind of killed to order for st organ harvesting.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And when you talk.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
About groups, I mean, now I think where this is concerned,
it's largely made up of religious groups, am I.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, So this is how it started. Okay, we actually
got a whistleblower, a transplant surgeon named Yaka Levi. This
was back in two thousand and five. He had a
patient who was able to organize a transplant for a
heart in two weeks. So this set off a whole
bunch of red flags, right, one is well, Remember, in
a ethical transplant situation, someone needs to have a catastrophic
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accident to give a heart right and then that to
be able not to be rejected by the body.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
So the blood.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Type and tissue type need to match, and that sort
of thing size also needs to match. But here right
this basically on the one hand, you're getting a scheduled transplant,
which means that that catastrophic accident is being arranged, and
number two, you're doing it really quickly. So this unique
set of variables that in a normal place people have
(04:00):
to wait months or years, right you basically you can
get it in two weeks. So what they did is,
as you point out religious dissidents. In nineteen ninety nine
in China, there was a new black class that was created.
It was a spiritual movement. It's kind of a type
of chigong, so these slow motion exercises, but also a
deep adherence to principles truthfulness, compassion, forbearance, this kind of thing,
(04:23):
and this group by word of mouth, it was very grassroots,
very bottom up. Basically, there's no hierarchy in the system,
there's no worship in the system, there's no collecting of
money and it's by word of mouth. It grew to
be seventy to one hundred million people when in thirteen
Chinese was doing this spiritual discipline and the regime decided
to crush it to eradicate it. So they created felan
(04:45):
Goong as this new black class that then all of
society was supposed to struggle against. And the Felngong actually
resisted in numbers that had never happened before in the
history of communist China. They wouldn't allow themselves to be
re educated, so then they incarcerated a massive number of them.
We don't know how many, maybe a million, maybe more.
(05:05):
And then this is how you get killed to order,
because they start to blood type and tissue type and
organs candem basically in the system in this prison and
re education through the labor through camp system and everything.
And now, when let's say I'm a wealthy transplant tourist
and I pay my one hundred or two hundred grand,
which by the way people were doing, there's somebody already
(05:27):
in the system that has that perfect match for me,
because there's so many people that have already been put
into a database, and then that person can be shipped
and killed to order, and that's what we're talking about.
This is a very extreme form of organ trafficking that
could only happen in a totalitarian regime.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So I mean when you talk about fell in Gong
and other vulnerable groups, I mean that can include Christians
as well, because just because someone doesn't understand that spirituality
or that religion or religious movement, that doesn't mean that
their religion is excluded, particularly when it comes to China.
So I mean it's something that everyone needs to be
concerned about. And any any human being though that here's
(06:08):
the story, and isn't moved by it. I don't understand,
because there all are are vulnerable groups you just named
them following gone, and there could be others underground Christians
because they too refused to be re educated in these camps,
as well as the fell and Gong members.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, Rose, you hit the nail on the head. So
this is what happened.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
They basically worked on the founday. They built this whole
industry the first five years between two thousand two thousand
and five, they build over well I don't know if
it's over, but one hundred and fifty transplant hospitals, odd
transplant hospitals doing this, and then by the time we
get to twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen, no one had
really done much about it. They hadn't really been challenged
(06:50):
in the meaningfully. So they added another group. This was
actually the weaker Muslims in the Northwest and Shangja what
they call Shanjong Autonomous Region, and then they started working
on that. They added they dehumanized them, They incarcerated a
million plus of them, and in that up there it's
run like a police state. And up there people are
even blood types and tissue type in their homes. Okay,
(07:12):
it's database. And now to your point, when it comes
to the house Christians, you've noticed probably that there's been
this significant uptick in the persecution of Christians. We've got
this whole Zion Church that's been rolled up right, there's
still the lead pastor and many other pastors are still
in prison. There's been these controls put in against the
Catholic clergy and so forth. And I've actually noticed an
(07:36):
uptick in this kind of dehumanizing rhetoric that we saw
against the fell and Gong, that we saw against the
Wigers against Christians. This is anecdotal I've been done a
study on it. But I've also talked to a pastor
out of China AID in Midland, Texas. It's an amazing
ministry that helps persecuted Christians, and he says he's seeing
the same thing. So I'm very concerned because these types
(07:58):
of atrocities, kind of violations, they spread, and by the way,
you know, we're not totally innocent of it. We've even
trained some of these surgeons. I don't know if we
knew we knew exactly who we were a training or
what they were going to do, but some of these transplants,
surgents have actually been traded in America, and we you know,
we have these transplant relationships, hospital relationships, funding relationships. There's
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a lot of ways in which we're involved, which is
deeply unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well I'm sorry, but once we hear about it like
we are right now in your book, then there's no
excuse for that. There is absolutely no excuse. And I
want to share with the audience just how prevalent this is.
I mean, how many are we looking at here in
terms of victims? Tens of thousands more.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So, the best estimate that we have is about sixty
to ninety thousand transplants annually per year. We estimate that's
about a nine billion dollar annual industry. So this is
not a small scale thing. Just for contrast, right, last
year was the record number of transplants in the US
and that was forty thousand transplants. So this is a
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this is a big thing.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's a big thing. It's a big money maker over there.
And I think, if I remember correctly, the last time
I spoke to you, you shared with me that one
person could be donating more than just one organ.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It could be hit up a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So there's this amazing technology called Ekmo, which was basically
I think around twenty twelve is when it came online,
and what Echmo allowed was for in the US, for example,
it kind of replaces your heart and lungs when you
need like surge serious surgery done in those areas. The
vascular surgeons plug you in and then it sort of
(09:39):
bypasses that part but keeps your blood circulating and so forth. Well,
one piece of evidence we got around this force organ
harvesting was a lot of the transplant hospitals bought large
numbers of these portable ECMO machines, so then you can
keep easy. You can't transplant from a body that's the
circulation has already stopped for a significant amount of time,
the organs degrade and they it rejected. But if you
(10:01):
can profuse the body using an x ecmo machine, you
can transplant multiple organs without having you know, the kind
of the recipients right there right in sight. So so yes,
absolutely you can get more these days since twenty twelve plus,
you can get more organs out of a single body.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
You know, you I think there was one.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
There was a known survivor, or at least the first
known survivor of forced organ harvesting. Can you just share
a little bit about who he was and some of
the verified details.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
One hundred percent? And I, you know, I kind of
detail his story at the beginning of Kill to Order,
by the way, that's that Killedtoorder dot com. If anyone
is interested in picking up the book, the short link
to the Amazon link. But Chun py Ming, he didn't
even know what had happened to him. He was one
of these people who was standing up from Tongong, resisting
being re educated, so to speak to They incarcerated him
(10:55):
and tortured him in the process. There was this unwritten
rule that on a Fellongong deb's in the system would
be considered suicides. In other words, you can torture these
people as hard as you need to to break them,
to break their spirit. So he wasn't he wasn't going
to do it. And you know, one day he was
actually woke up after you know, he had been protesting,
(11:16):
and you know, he just remembers, he wakes up, he
has this giant gash in his side and feels horrible
and he doesn't know what's happened. And you know, he
ends up healing up a bit from this, and it's
only much later he actually gets out. It's a bit
of a miracle kind of escapes from that place. And
(11:36):
he only realizes much later that it's possible that he
had been organ harvest And it would be hard to
explain this, but it actually took you know, organ scans
in America, right. He was actually rescued out of from
Thailand where he was hiding out after he escaped by
Bob Destro who's the under Trump forty five, was the
(11:57):
Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Rights and Labor. Then
he got scanned and we discovered that he was missing
part of his kid, part of his liver, and part
of his lung. And we're not sure believe what lung
doesn't regenerate the livers. You can actually harvest part of
a liver and that regenerates. And this was done against
his will, and Chinese regime even admitted to the fact
(12:19):
that they operated on him, which of course was against
as well. So it's just an unbelievable story. That's hard
to have.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Them, it really is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And we only have like two minutes here, but you
know this has been so underreported, and now you know,
China is big in the news because of course our
president is there right now. What can you tell us
in about a minute a half and a half what
concrete steps that Congress or the Trump administration itself can
take to expose this and and put some legislation into
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play right now.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Well, there's a few things we can do. I'll just
talk about the federal level since we don't have a
ton of time, But there are pieces of legislation that
have passed the House near unanimously. One is S four
zero zero nine. That's the Senate version of a bill
that's bipartisan. There's another House Bill HR fifteen oh three.
Both of these are very powerful pieces of legislation that
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just need to be brought to the floor in the Senate.
They sanction some of the bad guys, They establish, you know,
the reality of this and the in law because this
is something there's still people out there who don't understand
this is real because it is so indeed so hard
to believe. That's that's a great starting point. And there's
also you know, we can actually just stop training these surgeons,
(13:34):
providing technologies and money, funding relationships to transplant hospitals, all
of that. It's kind of a no brainer. We don't
need to be involved in this at the very least.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, it should be a no brainer. We've been talking
to jan Ya Kalik. He is the author of Killed
to Order, China's organ harvesting Industry and the True nature
of America's biggest adversary. You can find this book at
killed too Order dot com. It's a fast doating story.
You need to get it, and we need to be
talking about this. Jan thank you so much for joining
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me today.
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Thank you, Rose, it's been such a pleasure.
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A couple of things I wanted to talk about because
I got to say something. You know, you've heard Presidents
Trump talk about Marco Rubio, j d Vance, how they
are the dream team. I'll tell you who's the dream
for me is Marco Rubio. I mean this guy. I
liked him way back when. I never stopped liking him.
I love that he that that he represents the Latino vote.
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just a fabulous person to watch and I'm really I'm
really impressed with him. So I always liked him. And
here's something that I think is interesting and it is
making the rounds on social media right now. This is
Rubio from twenty fifteen, and he had a warning about
(17:18):
Iran and it's now resurfacing, as I said, all over
the place, and it's spot on.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Take a listen to this.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
I think everything that needs to be said about the
details of this deal have already been said. I do
want to be recorded for history's purposes before I know
what was going to happen in regards to this. If
it goes through, Iran will immediately use the money that
it's receiving and sanctions relief to begin to build up
its conventional capabilities. It will establish the most dominant military
power in the region outside of the United States, and
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it will raise the price of US operating in the region.
They're going to build anti access capabilities, rockets capable of
destroying our aircraft carriers and ships. Continue to build these
swift boats that are able to come on us, these
fast boats that are able to swim our naval assets,
and they'll make it harder and harder for US troops
to be in the region. They'll also work with other
terrorist groups in the region to target American servicemen and women,
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and they may or may not deny that they're involved,
but they will target us and raise the price of
our presence in the Middle East until they hope to
completely pull US out of that region. The LOLS will
continue to build long range missiles, missiles capable of reaching
the United States. Those are not affected by this deal,
and they'll continue to build them as they've been doing.
And then at some point in the near future, when
the time is right, they will build a nuclear weapon.
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And they will do so because at that point they
will know that they have become immune, that we will
no longer be able to strike their nuclear program because
the price of doing so will be too high.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oh can you believe this? How prescient he was? He
argued in twenty fifteen that the deal was a guaranteed
pathway to nukes. So let's talk about this just for
men and unpacket funding terror. That's one of the things
that he predicted. He warned that sanctions relief would be
used to build conventional military capabilities and fund terror groups
like Kesbula and the Hooties. Okay, there you go. Missile program.
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He predicted Iran would continue building long range missile capability
of reaching the US which were not covered by the
deal and nuclear escalation, and he stated that Iran would
ultimately use the economic benefits to build nuclear weapons when
they found immune to consequences. We have allowed them to
feel immune until right now. But you know, I got
(19:29):
to say, Marco Ruvio has tremendous experience in many aspects
of governing, and he has shown him spell himself, especially
with this, to be extremely wise, imprescient. And I would
love for you to call me and tell me what
you believe a dream team is, because he's number one
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Hey, Jerry, how are.
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You good, Rose, How are you doing well?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Thank you?
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So the reason I'm calling is I've heard you refer
to prayer requests a couple of times. It is National
Police Suite in Washington, d C. Tonight is a candlelight vigil.
So they're adding officers that fill in the line of
duty in twenty twenty eighty five to the memorial. And
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I would just like all of the listeners of your
show and Sean Hannity's show to pray for the families
and the partners of the officers that have died in
the line of duty.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Oh, indeed, they should be in our prayers. Thank you
for that, Jerry, because it's so sad and here they
put themselves on the line for us. You know, they're
willing to risk so much for us, and I just
appreciate that. And I asked that God blesses their families
and brings them peace. And I would encourage everyone to
continue to remember that. And you know, you bring up
DC and it's interesting, on a slightly different note, but similar.
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Since the National Guard has been here, it's been so different,
and you know, people outside of DC criticize the National
Guard in DC, but they have no idea what's been
going on here, what's happened in the streets. I can
name several people who have witnessed carjackings, a shooting, more
than one shooting. I'm talking about just one person alone.
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These things happened all the time. And one of the
things I was walking down the street with my son
and his daughter and we and we were coming upon
a couple of National Guard coming towards us. And they're young,
these guys, most of them, they're so young, and and
they're out there and they're suffering persecution really by so many.
But I said to my son, Hey, you know, I'm
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going to say something nice to them. He goes, yeah,
I do it every time I pass one.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So we did.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
We thank them for what they were doing, and they
were just so sweet about it. But it's made such
a difference, and really we should be praying for them
as well. I mean, they're out there, young people, and
they're keeping things in line.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
They really really are. Linda from Michigan.
Speaker 9 (22:06):
Hey, Linda, Hi Rose, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Hi, I'm glad to take it. You wanted to talk
about our Linda with a why.
Speaker 9 (22:18):
I do I do. And by the way, I'm really
appreciating hearing your voice and in your show and your
substituting for Sean today. I'm really enjoying your show. Thank you,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I love doing it. I really do. Okay, what do
we need to do for Linda here? What's going on?
Speaker 9 (22:34):
Oh my gosh, Well, I just wanted to call and
share some love and encouragement. I noticed that when Linda
was talking with Sean because he's in China today, and
it was a very good conversation they had. But Sean,
we've given Linda.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
A hard time.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
Oh, I use the word always. Often gives Linda a
hard time for her dialect and the way she pronounces words.
I'm thinking, oh my gosh, he would never he would
never expect somebody from another region or another country to
change the way they dialect or use words or pronounced words.
So I wanted to share some love and encouragement for acceptance.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yes, yes, inclusiveness, right. I mean I love her accident,
she's like, you know, bad man. I just love that.
It's like hard and tough and right to the point
until she's yelling at me in my head sets. But
other than that, we love Linda.
Speaker 10 (23:30):
I'm gonna I'm gonna say thank you to my fellow Linda,
and thank you to Rose. And you know, part of
my charm is my yelling. And you know the problem
with Sean is and and he's you know, he's just
too tough to admit it is that if he did
not have me to make fun of, he would be
so bored, he would be just you know, missionless. And
with me in his life, he has someone to make
(23:50):
fun of for as long as I breathe there. So
you know, I'm happy to give him that little little hobby.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Because ultimately we do love Sean. And if that, you know,
if that makes it life a little better than okay.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
And so kudos to you, Linda. But Linda, Linda with
a why.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I was looking for something, so I searched your name
on my email and back in twenty twenty one, I
had sent you. I don't know if you remember this.
I sent you a we Love Linda campaign that was
going on on my radio show at the time.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I don't remember, but it sounds like a great show.
I love it, Shore would hate it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yes, you love you, Linda. You're awesome. May like to
trust me. Thank you yeah, thanks Linda. All Right, Robert
from Alabama's calling in. Hey, Robert, you there, Robert.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Hi, Yes, hey you.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I don't even well, how are you?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
I've heard of you, but I've listened to a few
of your your talks. But I'd just like to chime
in on Marco Rubio. I've been in Marco Rubio's corner
for a long time. Marca Rubio is the smartest man
in the room.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yes, I agree with you one hundred percent, and.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I just kind of I guess I want to pick
your brain and ask you what's your thoughts and it's
probably the same as mine.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Well, I did share some of them already, Robert, But
I do. I feel that he's very polished. I feel
that he articulates his points very well. And the reason
that he can articulate his points so well is because
he understands his points so well. This is a man
that understands how government should be run. He is on
our team. He's a conservative, but he is very eloquent
(25:39):
in defining his beliefs and his stand on certain issues.
And I think that the best thing that happened to
Marco Rubio was being part of this administration, because now
all of us got to have a little glimpse into
who he is and how he conducts himself. And it
is brilliant, absolutely brilliant. And the guy, if you go
(26:01):
back eleven year what was that twenty fifteen, so that
I peaked at fourth grade math? So what is it
eleven years ago? Eleven years ago? This man so perfectly
explained to us what would happen if that deal went
through and he was absolutely right. And I'm talking about
the joint Comprehensive Plan of Action that the Iran nuclear deal,
(26:21):
and he was right. And we're going back eleven years,
So this isn't like, oh, all of a sudden. Marco
Ruby is a really smart man or the smartest man
in the room. No, he has been for a really long.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Time, and he's very studied. I mean, he knows history,
he understands this stuff. And you know, an everyday average American,
even the listeners, some of the listeners that listen to
your shows and Hannity's, they're not really you know, all
that in the know about this stuff, and certain people
(26:54):
just happen to recognize it. And I see it for
what it is.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'll tell you what I am hoping hoping, hoping, hoping
that his candidate, he's the candidate. I just I'm not
ashamed to say I'm on his team. I'm one team
Rubio when it comes down to it.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I never I didn't know that he said he made
those predictions in fifteen. I hadn't heard that clip until
just today when you played it. That. I mean, man,
he told the whole story of verbatim he did.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I mean, he got everything exactly right, exactly right, all right, Well,
Robert and Alabama, thank you so much for calling.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And Robert was referring to my podcast, which you can
find It's Rose Unplugged on all platforms. But now I'm
really excited about my new show on Real Life Network.
All you have to do is go to real lifenetwork
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Speaker 3 (27:54):
So please give me a favorite.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Check it out real lifeetwork dot com, log in and
search for Rose Unplugged. Well, so my ministry, she is
called by Him dot Com. We receive pray requests all
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nine one Sean right after this.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
In a scene of government lies, He's the beacon of truth.
This is the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. I have time
for one call, if you can make a quick al
from New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
How are you?
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Yeah, I'm for Jersey, Linda, I'm some joyousy.
Speaker 10 (29:15):
Now you're my favorite call of the day.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I was gonna say Linda says it better than you do,
but go ahead.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
I'll tell you. It's a tough call between Dance and him.
I do like Mark Ruby a lot. I mean I
said ten towards him because but he's been out a
lot and you know, out in the public a lot too.
The two of them are are it's a great bench
we've got, but no denying it.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Al that Rubio brings with him quite a bit of
experience and a tremendous amount of wisdom as we have
just seen.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
He is, he really is. You know, I think.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Spanish it's his time. Hispanic Blad's going to go that
way too with him.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Absolutely very very popular.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
With the Spanish folks. H I'm I'm a chef, so
i work with a lot of of Hispanics and I'm
even learning Spanish.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I work with Good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
I date, we respect him. I lived in Key West,
Florida for years, and I know a lot of Cubans
and from from down living down there, and great people,
absolutely great, and it is I would love to see
Cuba become free again. I mean, you know, it's it's
it's been horrible for these people, do you know.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Thank you for that call, and you know what, I
think I have to go here just because I want
to close it up.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
But Al, you're a good guy.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's really sweet that you're trying to learn the language
too so you can communicate with your staff. I love
that we this is the Sean Hannity Show. My name
is Rose, and thank you for allowing me to come
into your homes your cars this afternoon. I love being
with all of you. You're great people. Please check out
my new show on Real Life Network. Just sign in
for free and search Rose Unplugged, where you can do
(31:00):
onload Real Life Network app on all platforms. Also check
me out at Rose Unplugged. I've got a lot of
podcasts up to on many platforms. And my ministry she
is called by him dot com, and we take prairie
requests there. We have a team of women who pray
over every request and we also have free weekly newsletters
that are very encouraging end uplifting, so I would love
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for you to check that out as well, and we
have a daily devotional that's coming soon, so make sure
you put that on your radar. She is called by
him dot com and certainly my show at Real Life Network.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Just real quick.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I wanted to mention because I didn't get a chance
to yet. But you know, the Senate Republicans reported that
no Democrats attended a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
Committee hearing today featuring a CIA whistleblower who alleged doctor
Anthony Fauci was involved in a cover up regarding the
origins of COVID nineteen. Not one Democrat attended this. That
(32:00):
is shameful. It really is all right. Thanks for joining
me today. I love spending time with you and God blessed.
Don't forget check me out Rose Unplugged. She is called
by haimd dot com and also real liifnetwork dot com
and just log in and look for Rose Unplugged. I
think you'll enjoy it a lot great people on there.
(32:21):
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