July 7, 2026 • 33 mins
Jason Chaffetz begins the hour by tracking several “collapse” stories, including a damaged New York City building, Graham Platner’s political troubles, Mitch McConnell’s health questions, and the Democratic Party’s ideological shift. Retired Navy SEAL Mike Cirelli joins to discuss drone threats, China’s dominance in consumer drones, the use of drones in modern warfare, and the lack of a clear U.S. national drone strategy. Cirelli also explains the importance of data centers, their role in artificial intelligence, and misconceptions about water and power usage. EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin later joins to discuss EPA reforms, agency spending under the Biden administration, deregulation, environmental stewardship, energy policy, and the cost of left-wing climate policies. The hour also includes discussion of the World Cup and America’s role as host.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Jason Jafit's filling in for Sean today. We got
our eyes on a lot of things. So we're about
to have a great guest on a former Navy seal,
Mike's Airelli. But first of all, I just got to
mention the word of the day's probably got to be collapse.
We're keeping an eye on a lot of collapses here. First,
we got a building in New York City seems to
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be a little bit more stable than we thought initially.
It might come down at any time. Now there's some
people going into the building try to assess it. I
don't know what's going to happen to this, but certainly
those in New York have got their eyes on this building.
It's the old Pfiser that has Peiser among others. But
I you know, will it collapse, will not collapse? A
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lot of people wondering if that's happening. We're watching the
collapse of Graham Platner and his political career. Everybody who
jumped on board and said, oh, he's our man, they
were totally fine with offering up a Democratic candidate who's got,
you know, a Nazi symbol on his chest emblazoned in
there with a massive tattoo. Now that video has come
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out with a person alleging that he raped her. Now
they're all jumping off the ship, and even Bernie Sanders
has said that he can't do that. So we're watching
that collapse. We're watching the collapse of Mitch McConnell been hospitalized.
You don't want any you know, you don't want somebody
to have to suffer or be in a hospital for
nearly a month now, But raising the eyebrow and looking
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and questioning why when your husband is in such dire
straits you would go to China, not just for a
quick trip either, is how does it that your spouse
decides to go to China for a while. Well, your
husband's in husband's in the hospital. That's just weird. So
we're watching the collapse of Mitch McConnell as well, and
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then just the general collapse of the Democratic Party as
they try to figure out what's going on between how
are they going to be socialists? Are they going to
be you know, communists or that? What did they what
are they these days? What did they stand for? What
did they actually believe in other than open borders, hire taxes,
getting rid of police, getting rid of the tax you know,
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the the cash lists, you know, getting rid of bail,
like all these things. They want open borders. It's just
unbelievable where today's socialist Democratic Party is. Everything's going to
be free. So we're watching the collapse of the Democratic
Party certainly as we have known it in the past.
But tier to talk about some other threats to the
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United States of America and some of the good things
that are actually going on there as well. Really thrilled
to have retired US Navy seal Mike'siarelli. He's a recon marine,
he was a scout and sniper, and I want to
talk about drones and data centers. So mike's Arelli, thanks
so much for joining us today on Seohn Handy Show.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Jason always going to be with you.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, no, it's great. Let's talk drones first, because I
wrote an op ed. It's been a couple of months now,
but just saying, hey, this is one of the biggest
threats that I think the United States has. How do
we deal with drones? The drone threat. We've got more
registered drones than we do airplanes by far. I read
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something that said something like six hundred drones were taken
out of the skies people trying to get a shot
near or close or at the World Club. We had
raging fires in Utah and I think the number is
two now. Two people have been arrested for trying to
fly their drones where helicopters and aircraft are trying to
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drop retardant and water on wildfires and putting people's lives
in danger. Where do you see the whole drone situation going.
Because I think it's a major threat and we don't
have a national strategy to deal with it.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
No, and you know this better than anyone else. Usually
policy follows the emergency, and we definitely have that on
the civilian side, protection to our sovereignty and use of
civilian drones. But you know, let me step back here.
Drones have been around since like post nine to eleven.
We remember the predators, the reapers, and then Dji, which
is a large Chinese company, really came to market in
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two thousand and six and it was for hobbyists in
the international markets and then it started entering warfare and
that's where it gets interesting. They basically packaged up a camera, GPS,
a control system into a relatively cheap price.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And what threatens us on the national security.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Perspective is right now, and this was from the Defense
Innovative Unit, reported that for every one hundred drones that
China MIxS, the US makes one. And right now DJI
owns about seventy percent of the global consumer drone market,
and they owned ninety percent the US drone market. And
what we're watching unfold in the Ukraine, you know, the
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little country that could, that has basically stalled a great
power into a.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
War of attrition using drones.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
There is that component, the national security and defense component,
and we are far behind. I mean DJI did for
let's say, warfare, what the smartphone did for communication, and
you know that entire package. And what we're seeing going
on in the Ukraine is very concerning to the United
States and Washington should be paying attention because we've got
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to ramp up our drone production from a national security perspective.
But to your point, with the threat that it causes,
the American populace policy needs to be put in place, and.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It creates a whole ecosystem.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
We've got drones in themselves, but now you have an
anti drone capability that is needed to combat any threats
to our citizens.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, the one hundred percent, I should mention you're the
chief talent officer at Overwatch Mission Critical. Overwatch Mission Critical
might want to look it up because really helping to
lead the charge here because I think where and this
is like I served in Congress, this is a problem.
And the problem first is you got I don't know
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ninety nine percent of the five hundred and thirty five
that don't have a clue what drones are, how they work,
what the technology is, and where it's going.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I mean, they just don't have the talent pool or
skill set or experience to be able to deal with
That's why I wish there were more people from the
military that were actually serving in the Congress so to
let alone put the guardrails on and come up with
public policy, because it begs the question of who owns
the airspace? And like if you had a drone, whether
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you know, look, realtors use drones, hobbyists use drones, Photographers
you used drones. And they're fun, right, it's simple, easy
and not nefarious in their intent. But if you had
somebody who did have nefarious intent or wanted to weaponize them,
not just with a camera, but with an explosive. Who
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would you call highway patrol, your local sheriff, You're going
to call the state police? Like who's in charge the FAA?
And at what height do you call the FA? And
what are you gonna do? Dial one hundred FAA and
have somebody run over. I mean a lot of us
would get out our shotguns just shoot it out of
the air, but you know, we're trying to be responsible here.
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That would be fun and effective, but I'm not advocating that,
particularly in places of large populations. But what are people
to do? Should Where is this going?
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Mike?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, it shows the asymmetric nature of drone warfare and
that it can be easily weaponized against us. These things
are so modular. I mean again, we're watching it in
the Ukraine where they're turning commercial drones into basically one
way attack drums, which is crip a great power. So
it's a discussion that needs to be had. It needs
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to be had suoner rather than later, because our adversaries
are either one they're going to engage and try to
destroy us from within. We've always known that, but they
will weaponize roans on small attacks against our civilians or
soft targets, and that is an immediate threat to our sovereignty,
but more importantly, an immediate threat to our people.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And so those discussions need to take place.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
They're just not happening at the pace or with the
severity that need to be taking place.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, it's the urgency. You mentioned this earlier, Mike, that
usually we're you know, Congress's reactionary. I'm not saying that
everything requires legislation, but to have the expertise and catch
up with China, not only to have the attack drones
when needed because warfare is changing, but to be able
to play defense even on our own backyards. I mean,
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I think of airplanes, I think of the firefighting situations.
I think of the perverts who you know, when I
was in my backyard, I had this drone dropped down.
I don't know, it's twenty feet or so off the ground,
just watching me. And yeah, I got about an acre
and a half. And who knows what they're doing or
how often they come by because you generally can't hear
you're a little bit of whizzing, but sometimes and maybe not.
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And so I think there's a big national imperative, and
you understand it, but I worry that Congress has no clue.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
It's a difficult problem to crack because when we don't
want to, you know, rescind people's rights. Like you said,
they are fun. But the example you just used of
invasion of privacy, there's got to be regulations or stipulations
around that. But you know, essentially, look at any event
like the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our nation.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Those are easy.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Weaponized drone attacks. I mean, those results when you've got
a crowd of one hundred thousand people, that could be costly, costly,
and that's a big concern.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So now with events, do.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
We need to have an anti drome capability at almost
to every event where we know we're going to have
mass crowds.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, no, very true. Let's transition a little bit. I
want to talk about data centers because there's a lot
of hyperventilating. I think not all data centers are the same, right,
they're different. But give us your perspective on where we're going.
The hyperventilating and the concerns that people have, but also
the good that they can do.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yes, absolutely, and there is hyperventilation going on, and there
is a lot of misinformation, and I think, you know, one,
the industry did a bad job of controlling the narrative
and working with the municipalities where these data centers are
being placed. But let's address two of those misconceptions.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
One water.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You know, I would suggest that the left protest golf
courses before they start protesting data centers. Golf courses are
golf courses are traditionally the biggest users of water. We
use predominantly closed loop systems or zero water design systems
with these these data centers. You don't cool your engine
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in your car with water, you use a glycol uh diuretic.
So data centers follow the same model, and that's why
they've minimized or or gotten the use of water down
to the lowest extent possible. And then with power, uh,
you know, the grid is the biggest threat. We have
an abundance of power that's available, but the grid is
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usually the biggest limitation in that. But to that point,
data centers have been building self generation on site left
of meter, which can actually stabilize the grid and uh,
you know, contingencies for municipalities. It actually adds value to
those locations. But right now, what we're seeing and what
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we're trying to fight this, even though we're the small guys,
is that even Republicans are starting to take a step
back and discuss moratoriums stopping the.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Data center builds.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Just like every industrial revolution, you know, things are too hot,
they're too cold, and we find we find the middle
that works for both the industry creating jobs and the
people that live within vicinities of data centers. The biggest
fear I have right now is that we're going to
slow an industry while we're in a race for AI
dominance against China and AI is you know, AI is
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not going to replace everyone's job. It will display some jobs,
but it will also create a pluth or of jobs.
Just like every industrial revolution, people went through that. So
I think we're seeing fear from the mass public. And
again it goes back to the narratives and we much
like the drones that we just discussed, government needs to
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get involved. They need to lead this conversation and find
what the middle ground is for both the citizens of
the US, those that live in the cinity of data centers,
and the industry itself, which is critical not only to
our economic development but also our national security.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well it is national security because the demand is so high.
And if somebody is like a purist saying, oh, I
hate data centers, okay, well let's stop using your phone,
don't watch television, don't go on Netflix, don't drive a car,
don't go to your grocery store, don't do anything in life.
If you're going to be the purest that says I
hate data centers, then stop consuming data. But you know
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that would be too simple for them and too principled.
So there for that. But it also is going to
create a lot of jobs, and I think that's what
Overwatch Mission Critical is all about. Mike. I could talk
to you all day about these two topics. I'd be
remiss though, if I didn't say thank you, thank you,
thank you for your service to our country right after
our Fourth of July for you serving as a Navy seal.
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We're just honored to have you here on the Sean
Hannity Show, and thank you for your service to the country.
Stay with us, We'll be right back. Remember one seventy
three twenty six ninety four, one seventy three twenty six
will be taking your.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Calls when fake news gives you lies. Hannity supplies the truth.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Sean Hannity is on right now.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Is there any way that he thought this was consensual
or no, just because.
Speaker 8 (14:58):
I don't believe that you can and think that that
scenario is consensual, you have to understand that that wasn't
when somebody is repeatedly, I mean, with somebody in the
middle of it says don't touch me, like, that's obviously
not consensual.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
That is Jessica on the lead with Jake Tapper talking
on camera about the collapse as we're watching it of
Graham Platner. It's I'm so sorry she had somebody, anybody
has to go through that sort of attack. She went
on to call it rape at one point, And this
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is why so many people have just said, you know what,
this person who got more than seventy five percent of
the vote on the Democratic side of the aisle to
become the nominee in the Senate main race, this is
why this person's it's just a matter of time, any moment,
it's going to drop out. Sad to see, but that's
that's Jessica's stepping up, doing the hard thing, the difficult thing,
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and calling it, you know, just explaining what happened to
her and her personally. Stay with us here on Shawn Handy.
I'm Jason Chafitz. You're gonna want to stay here because
we got Lee Zelden, e p A chief, you know,
EPA Administrator in the cabinet. We love Lee Zelden. He's
coming up right after the break. Stay with us.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
We'll be right back, solid as a rock. Honest. This
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is the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And I'm Jason Chief. It's filling in for Sean.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Nobody but nobody can spell chiefs. I get that. So
you can check me out at Jason in the House.
So all the different social media, you know, Facebook and
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or go to Jason Inthhouse dot com. Jason in the House.
You should be able to spell that one and you
can check me out there. But honored and thrilled that
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Sean would ask me to sit in in his seat today.
I'm thrilled to do so, and also excited to have
somebody who I met initially when he got elected to Congress.
His name happens to be Lee Zelden. He's now the
EPA Administrator and welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Yeah, it's good to be with you, Jason.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Now let's talk lee about your golfing prowess. Before we
get to the weightiness of, you know, saving the world
and fixing our government and all that, Let's talk about
the exceptional golfer that you are, because I recall a
time when you drove a golf cart and I was
joining you. Not that I'm a really good golfer, but
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you are not only a bad golfer, but you're really
bad at driving a golf cart. Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I'm just trying to keep it interesting for you. I mean,
we're driving through what seemed to be just another day
on the golf course, and I thought it would be
interesting if I navigated that branch on the tree in
a way where the branch would snap off the tree
and get lodged right across the passenger seat in the windshield,
right where you were sitting.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
I thought that was a good idea. But here we are.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Now in national radio with Shawn's massive listenership, and you know,
they're thinking that maybe I did that on accident.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
It was totally on purpose.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I didn't wake up in the morning thinking I would
potentially be impaled by a conifer. But it almost happened, yes,
and I have some video to prove it at some point.
But nevertheless, let's move on. Let's move on. You have
been out there literally, I mean, I think you've been
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on the job less than a year now, but you've
been literally, like the movement, the progress that we have
been making at the EPA has been stunning. And what
you've been able to accomplish in such a short amount
of time, I mean the energy that Donald Trump brings
to the equation you have been matching that. I think
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you've gone all fifty states now, right.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, actually the first nine and a half months as
EPA administrator, we got to all fifty states. And it's
important for us to get out of an agency building
in Washington, DC and actually be with the people and
hear from them and hear their asks, hear their concerns,
their demands, and it'll apply them, will apply common sense
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to you to make the most of every minute we're
in the job and not waste an opportunity, and to
do it at Trump speed, to do it as fast
as possible much as we possibly can at once.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
But yeah, there's no way you could do that.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Just by sitting in some agency building thinking, you know,
the answers to everything, not meeting with who you're regulating
and hearing those concerns from the American American people. Yeah,
getting out that was the key, and we got to
all fifty states and right now we're having this conversation
and travel in Ohio with Senator Houston today.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So walk me through this. You know, you came in
after the Biden administration, which couldn't be more sleepy. What
did you find upon your arrival? And then the second
part of that is what's on the top of your
list of things that you want to accomplish. The Trump
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administration wants to accomplish moving forward.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
So here's the first big radar styre in red light
that went off right after the November twenty four election.
Video comes out of a bigeal caught on video talking
about how they were tossing gold bars off the Titanic,
rushing to get billions of dollars out the door because
they're afraid that once President Trump is sworn in that
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he's going to stop it, which was true. And he
was also talking about how cool it would be to
get a job at there were sipping NGO, and all
of a sudden, everyone sees this video, like, well, you
need to go find those gold bars that they're tossing
off the Titanic and bring them back on the bring
them back.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
On the boat.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It turns out, yeah, they were spending more money than
they knew how to spend.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
It was into the.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Tens of billions of dollars, over sixty billion dollars obligated
to spend at the EPA in twenty twenty four, which
was many multiples higher than the ten billion dollar a
year annual operating budget. And we found conflicts of interest
former Obama buying officials, democratic donors, unqualified recipients, reduced agency
oversight and decisions that we made, canceled grants, we closed
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to buy an EPA museum that no one knew about,
or almost that you know, anyone even visited, real estate consolidation,
staff efficiencies. That list goes on, and we were able
to save thirty billion dollars in year one. And that
was the first thing that we're finding was with regards
to the money, there's a.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Lot that we're working on.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
And the coolest announcement, in my opinion, that we've put
out on the one year anniversary of President Trump's term
in office, we released the list of our top five
hundred environmental accomplishments from that first year. And we want
to protect the environment. We want to pursue cleaner, safer, healthier.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Land, air, and water. But we also.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Believe that we could do that without suffocating out of
existence entire sectors of our economy. That's a big difference
in beliefs from us and who we followed in this
position before us. So every day we have been working
on an agenda that delivers the environmental winds and also
delivers deregulation, more deregulation in one year than entire federal
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governments in the past have done across all federal agencies
combined of entire presidencies. And what's ahead is that we
want to continue the work striking that balance, powering the
great American come back, protecting the environment, but also growing,
helping to grow our economy, and delivering on that Trump
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Mandy while we're at it.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting to me because it's funny
when I sit with somebody who's maybe not of the
same sort of political persuasion and perspective that I am,
but I routinely explain to people how much I'd love
the land and the water and being outdoors, you know,
when I want to clear my head and do something
fun and just stop thinking about all the problems and
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challenges of life in the world. I like doing wildlife photography,
you know, and living in the Inner Mountain West. It's
just pawdiful. It's just literally right out in your backyard.
And so people say, oh, well, that you're a Republican,
and I said, well, you know, I'm a conservative and
I'm a conservative. Like, you don't get it, do you that.
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It's like the hunting and fishing community, particularly hunters, sort
of a light needs to go off with people because
the hunting communities some of the biggest conservatives out there.
You want to find good stewards of the land, go
find a hunter. And the Democrats and oftentimes on the left,
they'll look over there and say, oh, hunters, they just
kill things, like no, they want big, healthy herds. They
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understand and recognize how important the environment is, and they
are the biggest stewards and helpers and biggest advocates for
healthy forests and healthy water and all of those things.
But the difference between somebody who's just been in a
cubicle and maybe lived in the downtown city. I mean, hey,
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that's how you live your life. You live your life.
They just don't seem to get yet, the West Conservatives,
and they don't seem to get the idea that some
of the biggest stewards and advocates of our public lands
and whatnot are conservatives.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And leading away with getting the Great American Outdoors Act
passed by Congress and signed by the President during his
first term in office. You see it and hear it
from the hunters and the fishermen, and the hikers and more.
And there's a strong desire that you'll find across this
country quite frankly, Americans, across ideological spectrum, across political parties,
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there's a desire to conserve our environment. But where it
gets go sideways is that to try to win an election,
you have people on the left who say that in
order to incredibly defend the environment, you have to sign
up to like John Kerry or Al Gore, AOC's most
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ridiculous pessimistic view of where you know sea level or
ice cap or or global warming is going to be.
And if you disagree with them, then you are a
you know, climate change science denier. And by the way,
if you agree with them, then you have to sign
off on tens of billions of dollars going to environmental
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NGOs run by you know.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Former Obama and Biden officials. You have to sign on to.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Getting rid of you know, Cole and Guests and and more.
You have to blindly start talking about offshore wind as
if that's just going to be you know, the substitute
for all base load power. Like there's this long list
of demands, and if you do not blindly follow and
help implement all that on that list.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Well then you're not an environmentalist. And then and it's
just gets accepted.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
By the masses who want to help Democrats win an election.
And what gets lost in that is just the truth,
the facts. And maybe you could say the stubborn reality
for people that might find us, as Al Gore might
say an inconvenient truth, is that conservatives all across this
country absolutely love our environment.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
They want a conserv it.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
They just don't blindly follow whatever you know, ridiculous predictions
might become that AOC's mouth about how the world's about
to end.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Well, yes, and Look, we're talking with Lee Zelton, the
EPA administrator, former member of Congress, almost governor of New York.
But you've just been doing a fantastic job there as
the EPA administrator. But one of the things that I
think is so fascinating about this is that the Democrats
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will take a position and they will say we care more,
and we care more about the little guy and the
working men and women, but they have no problem making
their life, turning it upside down, whether it be light
bulbs or the one my wife gets just infuriated about
the laundry machines. You know that you only fill up
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like a third of the way with water and make
supposedly that's in the name of efficiency, which it really
isn't and making things so expensive. I mean, remember when
they wanted I think you and I are in Congress together,
when they wanted to, you know, make sure that get
you're rid of anything that was gas powered, and get
rid of all these other things that were actually you know,
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advancements and being able to live life and keep the
cost down. Because they had no problem pushing everybody to
the other end and making life so expensive, particularly for
lower income people. And yet the Democrats still held the
mantle and said, oh, we care about the little guy,
And yet it was the little guy that they were hurting.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
I'm from the York, Shawn's from the York.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And they've actually been implementing this, banning gas hookups on
new construction, not allowing the extraction of natural gas, noting
important line projects to get built, setting climate change goals
that are unachievable but they'll cause extreme economic pain, and
trying to meet those goals. They're trying to build, you know,
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an offshore wind in order to be able to get
rid of all sorts of important base load power they closed,
they needed point nuclear facility. The list goes on there
like this isn't some hypothetical, this isn't some scare tactic.
We're like, you know, this is what they're threatening to
do in the future, Like this is what they've actually
been doing over the last decade.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
And it all adds up.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
It's just each one of those decisions multiply the problems.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, and then they come out and say, oh, it's
Trump's fault. That it was not Donald Trump's fault. It
was your democratic policies that were put into place that
made life so expensive. There's a consequence when you shut
down a nuclear power plant, New York City's going to
pay higher rates. Then you have the mayor of New
York City going out there saying, oh, keep your temperature
at seventy eight degrees or whatever it is he was saying.
(30:07):
And we all know that Taylor Swift wasn't going to
do that. The Mayor's office wasn't going to do that.
But oh, all of you little people, you go out
and keep it at seventy eight degrees. It's such a load.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
And target targeting areas in the Bronx, you know. And
this is a reality with you know, when you implement
all these bad ideas at once, the future is rolling
brownouts and blackouts. This is what happens in places in
other countries. It's coming to an American city near you.
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If you allow the wrong people to be in charge
who think that this is all a good idea, Like
in New York where they now run the city, They
run this state up in Aubany, and they want to
deliver this like so you know, as New York fall,
so falls the country, they want to bring this agenda everywhere.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
And you know, I think that looks like a pre
darn bad idea.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Lee Zeldon, EP Administrator, thank you for taking time part
of your day, and thank you for your service. Most
people don't know this about but Lee, but he served
in the United States military as well away from his
family servant overseas. So after this fourth of July, thank
you for your service as well. And thanks for your
service you're giving right now in our country. I'm Jason
Javit's villing in for Sean our number one, seventy three,
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Stay with us.
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John Hennedy bumb just bummed that the United States is
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out of the World Cup contention. They thought they played
actually a pretty good tournament. The country is on fire.
Donald Trump has actually put some really good things into place,
and the security and the protocol and whatnot. It's actually
going really well. Today's game Argentina three to two over Egypt,
scoring three goals in thirteen minutes, including Lionel Messi absolutely stunningly.
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There's a long ways to go. I hope the world understands.
Hope Americans understand how big this sport is. The entire
country shut down watching their teams Switzerland and Columbia later today.
I'm a huge, huge fan of the World Cup. I'm
Jason Schaefd's felling in for Shawn with US. Mike Howell's
coming up next. We're gonna talk immigration. Stay with him,
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m
Speaker 4 (33:09):
M.
I'm Jason Jafit's filling in for Sean today. We got
our eyes on a lot of things. So we're about
to have a great guest on a former Navy seal,
Mike's Airelli. But first of all, I just got to
mention the word of the day's probably got to be collapse.
We're keeping an eye on a lot of collapses here. First,
we got a building in New York City seems to
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be a little bit more stable than we thought initially.
It might come down at any time. Now there's some
people going into the building try to assess it. I
don't know what's going to happen to this, but certainly
those in New York have got their eyes on this building.
It's the old Pfiser that has Peiser among others. But
I you know, will it collapse, will not collapse? A
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lot of people wondering if that's happening. We're watching the
collapse of Graham Platner and his political career. Everybody who
jumped on board and said, oh, he's our man, they
were totally fine with offering up a Democratic candidate who's got,
you know, a Nazi symbol on his chest emblazoned in
there with a massive tattoo. Now that video has come
(01:07):
out with a person alleging that he raped her. Now
they're all jumping off the ship, and even Bernie Sanders
has said that he can't do that. So we're watching
that collapse. We're watching the collapse of Mitch McConnell been hospitalized.
You don't want any you know, you don't want somebody
to have to suffer or be in a hospital for
nearly a month now, But raising the eyebrow and looking
(01:30):
and questioning why when your husband is in such dire
straits you would go to China, not just for a
quick trip either, is how does it that your spouse
decides to go to China for a while. Well, your
husband's in husband's in the hospital. That's just weird. So
we're watching the collapse of Mitch McConnell as well, and
(01:52):
then just the general collapse of the Democratic Party as
they try to figure out what's going on between how
are they going to be socialists? Are they going to
be you know, communists or that? What did they what
are they these days? What did they stand for? What
did they actually believe in other than open borders, hire taxes,
getting rid of police, getting rid of the tax you know,
(02:13):
the the cash lists, you know, getting rid of bail,
like all these things. They want open borders. It's just
unbelievable where today's socialist Democratic Party is. Everything's going to
be free. So we're watching the collapse of the Democratic
Party certainly as we have known it in the past.
But tier to talk about some other threats to the
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United States of America and some of the good things
that are actually going on there as well. Really thrilled
to have retired US Navy seal Mike'siarelli. He's a recon marine,
he was a scout and sniper, and I want to
talk about drones and data centers. So mike's Arelli, thanks
so much for joining us today on Seohn Handy Show.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Jason always going to be with you.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, no, it's great. Let's talk drones first, because I
wrote an op ed. It's been a couple of months now,
but just saying, hey, this is one of the biggest
threats that I think the United States has. How do
we deal with drones? The drone threat. We've got more
registered drones than we do airplanes by far. I read
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something that said something like six hundred drones were taken
out of the skies people trying to get a shot
near or close or at the World Club. We had
raging fires in Utah and I think the number is
two now. Two people have been arrested for trying to
fly their drones where helicopters and aircraft are trying to
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drop retardant and water on wildfires and putting people's lives
in danger. Where do you see the whole drone situation going.
Because I think it's a major threat and we don't
have a national strategy to deal with it.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
No, and you know this better than anyone else. Usually
policy follows the emergency, and we definitely have that on
the civilian side, protection to our sovereignty and use of
civilian drones. But you know, let me step back here.
Drones have been around since like post nine to eleven.
We remember the predators, the reapers, and then Dji, which
is a large Chinese company, really came to market in
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two thousand and six and it was for hobbyists in
the international markets and then it started entering warfare and
that's where it gets interesting. They basically packaged up a camera, GPS,
a control system into a relatively cheap price.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And what threatens us on the national security.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Perspective is right now, and this was from the Defense
Innovative Unit, reported that for every one hundred drones that
China MIxS, the US makes one. And right now DJI
owns about seventy percent of the global consumer drone market,
and they owned ninety percent the US drone market. And
what we're watching unfold in the Ukraine, you know, the
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little country that could, that has basically stalled a great
power into a.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
War of attrition using drones.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
There is that component, the national security and defense component,
and we are far behind. I mean DJI did for
let's say, warfare, what the smartphone did for communication, and
you know that entire package. And what we're seeing going
on in the Ukraine is very concerning to the United
States and Washington should be paying attention because we've got
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to ramp up our drone production from a national security perspective.
But to your point, with the threat that it causes,
the American populace policy needs to be put in place, and.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It creates a whole ecosystem.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
We've got drones in themselves, but now you have an
anti drone capability that is needed to combat any threats
to our citizens.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, the one hundred percent, I should mention you're the
chief talent officer at Overwatch Mission Critical. Overwatch Mission Critical
might want to look it up because really helping to
lead the charge here because I think where and this
is like I served in Congress, this is a problem.
And the problem first is you got I don't know
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ninety nine percent of the five hundred and thirty five
that don't have a clue what drones are, how they work,
what the technology is, and where it's going.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I mean, they just don't have the talent pool or
skill set or experience to be able to deal with
That's why I wish there were more people from the
military that were actually serving in the Congress so to
let alone put the guardrails on and come up with
public policy, because it begs the question of who owns
the airspace? And like if you had a drone, whether
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you know, look, realtors use drones, hobbyists use drones, Photographers
you used drones. And they're fun, right, it's simple, easy
and not nefarious in their intent. But if you had
somebody who did have nefarious intent or wanted to weaponize them,
not just with a camera, but with an explosive. Who
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would you call highway patrol, your local sheriff, You're going
to call the state police? Like who's in charge the FAA?
And at what height do you call the FA? And
what are you gonna do? Dial one hundred FAA and
have somebody run over. I mean a lot of us
would get out our shotguns just shoot it out of
the air, but you know, we're trying to be responsible here.
(07:32):
That would be fun and effective, but I'm not advocating that,
particularly in places of large populations. But what are people
to do? Should Where is this going?
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Mike?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Well, it shows the asymmetric nature of drone warfare and
that it can be easily weaponized against us. These things
are so modular. I mean again, we're watching it in
the Ukraine where they're turning commercial drones into basically one
way attack drums, which is crip a great power. So
it's a discussion that needs to be had. It needs
(08:04):
to be had suoner rather than later, because our adversaries
are either one they're going to engage and try to
destroy us from within. We've always known that, but they
will weaponize roans on small attacks against our civilians or
soft targets, and that is an immediate threat to our sovereignty,
but more importantly, an immediate threat to our people.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And so those discussions need to take place.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
They're just not happening at the pace or with the
severity that need to be taking place.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, it's the urgency. You mentioned this earlier, Mike, that
usually we're you know, Congress's reactionary. I'm not saying that
everything requires legislation, but to have the expertise and catch
up with China, not only to have the attack drones
when needed because warfare is changing, but to be able
to play defense even on our own backyards. I mean,
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I think of airplanes, I think of the firefighting situations.
I think of the perverts who you know, when I
was in my backyard, I had this drone dropped down.
I don't know, it's twenty feet or so off the ground,
just watching me. And yeah, I got about an acre
and a half. And who knows what they're doing or
how often they come by because you generally can't hear
you're a little bit of whizzing, but sometimes and maybe not.
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And so I think there's a big national imperative, and
you understand it, but I worry that Congress has no clue.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
It's a difficult problem to crack because when we don't
want to, you know, rescind people's rights. Like you said,
they are fun. But the example you just used of
invasion of privacy, there's got to be regulations or stipulations
around that. But you know, essentially, look at any event
like the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our nation.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Those are easy.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Weaponized drone attacks. I mean, those results when you've got
a crowd of one hundred thousand people, that could be costly, costly,
and that's a big concern.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So now with events, do.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
We need to have an anti drome capability at almost
to every event where we know we're going to have
mass crowds.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, no, very true. Let's transition a little bit. I
want to talk about data centers because there's a lot
of hyperventilating. I think not all data centers are the same, right,
they're different. But give us your perspective on where we're going.
The hyperventilating and the concerns that people have, but also
the good that they can do.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yes, absolutely, and there is hyperventilation going on, and there
is a lot of misinformation, and I think, you know, one,
the industry did a bad job of controlling the narrative
and working with the municipalities where these data centers are
being placed. But let's address two of those misconceptions.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
One water.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
You know, I would suggest that the left protest golf
courses before they start protesting data centers. Golf courses are
golf courses are traditionally the biggest users of water. We
use predominantly closed loop systems or zero water design systems
with these these data centers. You don't cool your engine
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in your car with water, you use a glycol uh diuretic.
So data centers follow the same model, and that's why
they've minimized or or gotten the use of water down
to the lowest extent possible. And then with power, uh,
you know, the grid is the biggest threat. We have
an abundance of power that's available, but the grid is
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usually the biggest limitation in that. But to that point,
data centers have been building self generation on site left
of meter, which can actually stabilize the grid and uh,
you know, contingencies for municipalities. It actually adds value to
those locations. But right now, what we're seeing and what
(12:03):
we're trying to fight this, even though we're the small guys,
is that even Republicans are starting to take a step
back and discuss moratoriums stopping the.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Data center builds.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Just like every industrial revolution, you know, things are too hot,
they're too cold, and we find we find the middle
that works for both the industry creating jobs and the
people that live within vicinities of data centers. The biggest
fear I have right now is that we're going to
slow an industry while we're in a race for AI
dominance against China and AI is you know, AI is
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not going to replace everyone's job. It will display some jobs,
but it will also create a pluth or of jobs.
Just like every industrial revolution, people went through that. So
I think we're seeing fear from the mass public. And
again it goes back to the narratives and we much
like the drones that we just discussed, government needs to
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get involved. They need to lead this conversation and find
what the middle ground is for both the citizens of
the US, those that live in the cinity of data centers,
and the industry itself, which is critical not only to
our economic development but also our national security.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well it is national security because the demand is so high.
And if somebody is like a purist saying, oh, I
hate data centers, okay, well let's stop using your phone,
don't watch television, don't go on Netflix, don't drive a car,
don't go to your grocery store, don't do anything in life.
If you're going to be the purest that says I
hate data centers, then stop consuming data. But you know
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that would be too simple for them and too principled.
So there for that. But it also is going to
create a lot of jobs, and I think that's what
Overwatch Mission Critical is all about. Mike. I could talk
to you all day about these two topics. I'd be
remiss though, if I didn't say thank you, thank you,
thank you for your service to our country right after
our Fourth of July for you serving as a Navy seal.
(13:58):
We're just honored to have you here on the Sean
Hannity Show, and thank you for your service to the country.
Stay with us, We'll be right back. Remember one seventy
three twenty six ninety four, one seventy three twenty six
will be taking your.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Calls when fake news gives you lies. Hannity supplies the truth.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Sean Hannity is on right now.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Is there any way that he thought this was consensual
or no, just because.
Speaker 8 (14:58):
I don't believe that you can and think that that
scenario is consensual, you have to understand that that wasn't
when somebody is repeatedly, I mean, with somebody in the
middle of it says don't touch me, like, that's obviously
not consensual.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
That is Jessica on the lead with Jake Tapper talking
on camera about the collapse as we're watching it of
Graham Platner. It's I'm so sorry she had somebody, anybody
has to go through that sort of attack. She went
on to call it rape at one point, And this
(15:37):
is why so many people have just said, you know what,
this person who got more than seventy five percent of
the vote on the Democratic side of the aisle to
become the nominee in the Senate main race, this is
why this person's it's just a matter of time, any moment,
it's going to drop out. Sad to see, but that's
that's Jessica's stepping up, doing the hard thing, the difficult thing,
(15:59):
and calling it, you know, just explaining what happened to
her and her personally. Stay with us here on Shawn Handy.
I'm Jason Chafitz. You're gonna want to stay here because
we got Lee Zelden, e p A chief, you know,
EPA Administrator in the cabinet. We love Lee Zelden. He's
coming up right after the break. Stay with us.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
We'll be right back, solid as a rock. Honest. This
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is the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And I'm Jason Chief. It's filling in for Sean.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Nobody but nobody can spell chiefs. I get that. So
you can check me out at Jason in the House.
So all the different social media, you know, Facebook and
x and Instagram, just go to Jason in the House
or go to Jason Inthhouse dot com. Jason in the House.
You should be able to spell that one and you
can check me out there. But honored and thrilled that
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Sean would ask me to sit in in his seat today.
I'm thrilled to do so, and also excited to have
somebody who I met initially when he got elected to Congress.
His name happens to be Lee Zelden. He's now the
EPA Administrator and welcome to the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Yeah, it's good to be with you, Jason.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Now let's talk lee about your golfing prowess. Before we
get to the weightiness of, you know, saving the world
and fixing our government and all that, Let's talk about
the exceptional golfer that you are, because I recall a
time when you drove a golf cart and I was
joining you. Not that I'm a really good golfer, but
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you are not only a bad golfer, but you're really
bad at driving a golf cart. Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I'm just trying to keep it interesting for you. I mean,
we're driving through what seemed to be just another day
on the golf course, and I thought it would be
interesting if I navigated that branch on the tree in
a way where the branch would snap off the tree
and get lodged right across the passenger seat in the windshield,
right where you were sitting.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
I thought that was a good idea. But here we are.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Now in national radio with Shawn's massive listenership, and you know,
they're thinking that maybe I did that on accident.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
It was totally on purpose.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I didn't wake up in the morning thinking I would
potentially be impaled by a conifer. But it almost happened, yes,
and I have some video to prove it at some point.
But nevertheless, let's move on. Let's move on. You have
been out there literally, I mean, I think you've been
(19:11):
on the job less than a year now, but you've
been literally, like the movement, the progress that we have
been making at the EPA has been stunning. And what
you've been able to accomplish in such a short amount
of time, I mean the energy that Donald Trump brings
to the equation you have been matching that. I think
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you've gone all fifty states now, right.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, actually the first nine and a half months as
EPA administrator, we got to all fifty states. And it's
important for us to get out of an agency building
in Washington, DC and actually be with the people and
hear from them and hear their asks, hear their concerns,
their demands, and it'll apply them, will apply common sense
(19:55):
to you to make the most of every minute we're
in the job and not waste an opportunity, and to
do it at Trump speed, to do it as fast
as possible much as we possibly can at once.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
But yeah, there's no way you could do that.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Just by sitting in some agency building thinking, you know,
the answers to everything, not meeting with who you're regulating
and hearing those concerns from the American American people. Yeah,
getting out that was the key, and we got to
all fifty states and right now we're having this conversation
and travel in Ohio with Senator Houston today.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So walk me through this. You know, you came in
after the Biden administration, which couldn't be more sleepy. What
did you find upon your arrival? And then the second
part of that is what's on the top of your
list of things that you want to accomplish. The Trump
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administration wants to accomplish moving forward.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
So here's the first big radar styre in red light
that went off right after the November twenty four election.
Video comes out of a bigeal caught on video talking
about how they were tossing gold bars off the Titanic,
rushing to get billions of dollars out the door because
they're afraid that once President Trump is sworn in that
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he's going to stop it, which was true. And he
was also talking about how cool it would be to
get a job at there were sipping NGO, and all
of a sudden, everyone sees this video, like, well, you
need to go find those gold bars that they're tossing
off the Titanic and bring them back on the bring
them back.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
On the boat.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
It turns out, yeah, they were spending more money than
they knew how to spend.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
It was into the.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Tens of billions of dollars, over sixty billion dollars obligated
to spend at the EPA in twenty twenty four, which
was many multiples higher than the ten billion dollar a
year annual operating budget. And we found conflicts of interest
former Obama buying officials, democratic donors, unqualified recipients, reduced agency
oversight and decisions that we made, canceled grants, we closed
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to buy an EPA museum that no one knew about,
or almost that you know, anyone even visited, real estate consolidation,
staff efficiencies. That list goes on, and we were able
to save thirty billion dollars in year one. And that
was the first thing that we're finding was with regards
to the money, there's a.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Lot that we're working on.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
And the coolest announcement, in my opinion, that we've put
out on the one year anniversary of President Trump's term
in office, we released the list of our top five
hundred environmental accomplishments from that first year. And we want
to protect the environment. We want to pursue cleaner, safer, healthier.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Land, air, and water. But we also.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Believe that we could do that without suffocating out of
existence entire sectors of our economy. That's a big difference
in beliefs from us and who we followed in this
position before us. So every day we have been working
on an agenda that delivers the environmental winds and also
delivers deregulation, more deregulation in one year than entire federal
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governments in the past have done across all federal agencies
combined of entire presidencies. And what's ahead is that we
want to continue the work striking that balance, powering the
great American come back, protecting the environment, but also growing,
helping to grow our economy, and delivering on that Trump
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Mandy while we're at it.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting to me because it's funny
when I sit with somebody who's maybe not of the
same sort of political persuasion and perspective that I am,
but I routinely explain to people how much I'd love
the land and the water and being outdoors, you know,
when I want to clear my head and do something
fun and just stop thinking about all the problems and
(23:51):
challenges of life in the world. I like doing wildlife photography,
you know, and living in the Inner Mountain West. It's
just pawdiful. It's just literally right out in your backyard.
And so people say, oh, well, that you're a Republican,
and I said, well, you know, I'm a conservative and
I'm a conservative. Like, you don't get it, do you that.
(24:12):
It's like the hunting and fishing community, particularly hunters, sort
of a light needs to go off with people because
the hunting communities some of the biggest conservatives out there.
You want to find good stewards of the land, go
find a hunter. And the Democrats and oftentimes on the left,
they'll look over there and say, oh, hunters, they just
kill things, like no, they want big, healthy herds. They
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understand and recognize how important the environment is, and they
are the biggest stewards and helpers and biggest advocates for
healthy forests and healthy water and all of those things.
But the difference between somebody who's just been in a
cubicle and maybe lived in the downtown city. I mean, hey,
(24:56):
that's how you live your life. You live your life.
They just don't seem to get yet, the West Conservatives,
and they don't seem to get the idea that some
of the biggest stewards and advocates of our public lands
and whatnot are conservatives.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And leading away with getting the Great American Outdoors Act
passed by Congress and signed by the President during his
first term in office. You see it and hear it
from the hunters and the fishermen, and the hikers and more.
And there's a strong desire that you'll find across this
country quite frankly, Americans, across ideological spectrum, across political parties,
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there's a desire to conserve our environment. But where it
gets go sideways is that to try to win an election,
you have people on the left who say that in
order to incredibly defend the environment, you have to sign
up to like John Kerry or Al Gore, AOC's most
(26:01):
ridiculous pessimistic view of where you know sea level or
ice cap or or global warming is going to be.
And if you disagree with them, then you are a
you know, climate change science denier. And by the way,
if you agree with them, then you have to sign
off on tens of billions of dollars going to environmental
(26:25):
NGOs run by you know.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Former Obama and Biden officials. You have to sign on to.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Getting rid of you know, Cole and Guests and and more.
You have to blindly start talking about offshore wind as
if that's just going to be you know, the substitute
for all base load power. Like there's this long list
of demands, and if you do not blindly follow and
help implement all that on that list.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Well then you're not an environmentalist. And then and it's
just gets accepted.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
By the masses who want to help Democrats win an election.
And what gets lost in that is just the truth,
the facts. And maybe you could say the stubborn reality
for people that might find us, as Al Gore might
say an inconvenient truth, is that conservatives all across this
country absolutely love our environment.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
They want a conserv it.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
They just don't blindly follow whatever you know, ridiculous predictions
might become that AOC's mouth about how the world's about
to end.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Well, yes, and Look, we're talking with Lee Zelton, the
EPA administrator, former member of Congress, almost governor of New York.
But you've just been doing a fantastic job there as
the EPA administrator. But one of the things that I
think is so fascinating about this is that the Democrats
(27:50):
will take a position and they will say we care more,
and we care more about the little guy and the
working men and women, but they have no problem making
their life, turning it upside down, whether it be light
bulbs or the one my wife gets just infuriated about
the laundry machines. You know that you only fill up
(28:12):
like a third of the way with water and make
supposedly that's in the name of efficiency, which it really
isn't and making things so expensive. I mean, remember when
they wanted I think you and I are in Congress together,
when they wanted to, you know, make sure that get
you're rid of anything that was gas powered, and get
rid of all these other things that were actually you know,
(28:34):
advancements and being able to live life and keep the
cost down. Because they had no problem pushing everybody to
the other end and making life so expensive, particularly for
lower income people. And yet the Democrats still held the
mantle and said, oh, we care about the little guy,
And yet it was the little guy that they were hurting.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
I'm from the York, Shawn's from the York.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And they've actually been implementing this, banning gas hookups on
new construction, not allowing the extraction of natural gas, noting
important line projects to get built, setting climate change goals
that are unachievable but they'll cause extreme economic pain, and
trying to meet those goals. They're trying to build, you know,
(29:19):
an offshore wind in order to be able to get
rid of all sorts of important base load power they closed,
they needed point nuclear facility. The list goes on there
like this isn't some hypothetical, this isn't some scare tactic.
We're like, you know, this is what they're threatening to
do in the future, Like this is what they've actually
been doing over the last decade.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
And it all adds up.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
It's just each one of those decisions multiply the problems.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, and then they come out and say, oh, it's
Trump's fault. That it was not Donald Trump's fault. It
was your democratic policies that were put into place that
made life so expensive. There's a consequence when you shut
down a nuclear power plant, New York City's going to
pay higher rates. Then you have the mayor of New
York City going out there saying, oh, keep your temperature
at seventy eight degrees or whatever it is he was saying.
(30:07):
And we all know that Taylor Swift wasn't going to
do that. The Mayor's office wasn't going to do that.
But oh, all of you little people, you go out
and keep it at seventy eight degrees. It's such a load.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
And target targeting areas in the Bronx, you know. And
this is a reality with you know, when you implement
all these bad ideas at once, the future is rolling
brownouts and blackouts. This is what happens in places in
other countries. It's coming to an American city near you.
(30:39):
If you allow the wrong people to be in charge
who think that this is all a good idea, Like
in New York where they now run the city, They
run this state up in Aubany, and they want to
deliver this like so you know, as New York fall,
so falls the country, they want to bring this agenda everywhere.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
And you know, I think that looks like a pre
darn bad idea.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Lee Zeldon, EP Administrator, thank you for taking time part
of your day, and thank you for your service. Most
people don't know this about but Lee, but he served
in the United States military as well away from his
family servant overseas. So after this fourth of July, thank
you for your service as well. And thanks for your
service you're giving right now in our country. I'm Jason
Javit's villing in for Sean our number one, seventy three,
(31:28):
twenty six, seventy three, twenty six. We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
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Speaker 1 (31:50):
John Hennedy bumb just bummed that the United States is
(32:18):
out of the World Cup contention. They thought they played
actually a pretty good tournament. The country is on fire.
Donald Trump has actually put some really good things into place,
and the security and the protocol and whatnot. It's actually
going really well. Today's game Argentina three to two over Egypt,
scoring three goals in thirteen minutes, including Lionel Messi absolutely stunningly.
(32:43):
There's a long ways to go. I hope the world understands.
Hope Americans understand how big this sport is. The entire
country shut down watching their teams Switzerland and Columbia later today.
I'm a huge, huge fan of the World Cup. I'm
Jason Schaefd's felling in for Shawn with US. Mike Howell's
coming up next. We're gonna talk immigration. Stay with him,
(33:08):
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