August 13, 2026 • 27 mins
White House drug policy director Sarah Carter joins Sean Hannity to discuss the Trump administration’s approach to addiction, homelessness and drug trafficking. Carter outlines a “treatment first” strategy focused on recovery, prevention and reducing overdose deaths while also describing international efforts against cartels and illicit drug production. Hannity then turns to New York politics with gubernatorial candidate Bruce Blakeman, who argues that high taxes, energy costs, illegal immigration and progressive policies are driving residents and businesses out of the state. Blakeman lays out his case for changing New York’s direction and discusses President Trump’s upcoming visit to Nassau County. The hour closes with callers weighing in on Hannity’s ongoing debate about grief, funerals and saying goodbye to loved ones.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, thanks Scott shot An hour two Sean Hannity Show,
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eight hundred and nine four one, Sean, if you want
to be a part of this program, this extravaganza, you know,
I will tell you one of the saddest things that
you get to see in life is addiction. I learned
a lot about addiction when I was seventeen years old.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I was working at a bar when I was twelve.
I've told the.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Story a million times that, like I know some of
you are saying, and don't tell it again. Linda is
the rolling her eyes right now. I was a dishwasher
every Friday, Saturday, Sunday night till two am in the morning.
At thirteen, I was a cook. Later I became a
bus boy waiter. Seventeen I was a bartender, and I
learned a lot about addiction. You know, in the case
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of alcohol addiction and alcoholism, it's so weird because every individual,
like your own DNA and your own fingerprint, has their number.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
What is the number?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, for some people, if they have one drink, it's
too much for them. Some people can't drink, they don't
metabolize it. It alters their personality immediately and they it
just brings the absolute worst out of them. For some people,
they have one drink and they like acting like woo,
that's kind of like Linda.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Is that you Linda? Which one of you? Some people
that have not a grinchy drinker, that is fake news.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I do not go.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Two or three but once for example. And this is
I'm using stereotypes which I don't like to use. But
there is something I observed that for example, men when
they drink too much either get into I love you, bro,
I love you my best friend, or they want to
fight somebody and they want to flirt with anybody at
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the bar, even if a woman's with her married husband.
It's insane. Women tend to become a little more flirtatious.
But I've seen women fighting each other too, So there
is some commonality there. Now we're not even talking about.
As bad as that is, and that's bad, there are
all these other addictions on top of it, and you
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know it's and then you look at countries that are targeting.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Our youth with all of these these drugs.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You know feanyl, You know three grains of sault can
kill a this fentanyl, but the size of three grains
assault can kill a two hundred and fifty pounds man.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, you look at opioid addiction, heroin addiction, you know,
then you have prescription drug addiction, which is just out
of control.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
We are an over prescribed society. Period. End of sentence
is no other way to put it, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Robert Kennedy Junior discussed the Trump administration fight to end
homelessness in drug addiction. He himself went through years of this.
I had a long talk with him, a personal talk.
I wouldn't disclose the contents of it. And when you're
in the throes of addiction, it is almost for the
person impossible to get out of it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
It's hard to explain, but here's what he said.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
President Trump made this mission a national priority through the
Great American Recovery. His leadership has made it possible for
us to break down silos across the federal government, demand
accountability for results, and put recovery at the center of
our response to addiction and homelessness. We are directing federal
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resources towards programs that deliver lasting results, not programs that
perpetuate cycles of deedtalks, relapse, and re entry into care.
And we're already seeing progress. In fact, new provisional data
that was released today show that overdose tests have dropped
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I'm within twelve percent over the last twelve months. That
means nearly ten thousand more Americans alive today would otherwise
not be alive. Those numbers underscore what as and Trump
has made clear. When we put recovery first and demand results, we.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Save lives all right.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Joining us now is the director of the White House
Office of National Drug Policy, a longtime front of this program,
often referred to by the way as the Drugs Are Now.
Sarah Carter is with us, and she has done so
much work for this program and for Hannity the TV
show in terms of going down to the border dealing
with the illegal immigration and the drug smugglers and the cartels.
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And she's seen it up close and personal. I had
the same experience when I used to go down on
the border twelve, fourteen, fifteen times, been in a drug warehouse,
the you know, Florida ceiling, the biggest warehouse you've ever seen,
with a stench you can't take. And you know this
is all drugs confiscated, you know, not counting all the
drugs that get through and the unbelievable ways that people
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smuggle drugs into this country. We're poisoning our children and
it's just terrible. Well, anyway, Sarah Carter, we miss you.
I'm glad you're the drugs are. I can't think of
a better person for this job. Tell us how it's going.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It's been going great, Sean. I'm here in San Diego.
I was with Secretary Kennedy here as well as Secretary
Scott Turner where our office, the Office of National Drug
Control Policy often yes referred to as the Drugs are
re released our Best Practices Toolkit. What it is is
a treatment first way of handling homelessness and drug addiction
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in the United States. It's not about housing first. Secretary
Turner Secretary Kennedy have been very clear. We are done
with waste, fraud, and abuse, and what we want at
on DCP, what we want is for people to live.
Every human being counts. We're not going to lock them
up in some motel give them housing without treatment. We
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want them to have treatment first, and we want rules
that protect children as well. You know, I'm here in
San Diego and I was speaking to folks out here
and I went around this beautiful city, absolutely stunning city.
And then one area of the city you can just
see the addiction these old methods of farm reduction, where
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people are in the streets and they've got needles in
their arms and they're you know, smoking cracks, they're using
mess they are shooting up Heroin with sentinel and the
horrors of seeing that and then realizing that amongst those
people that are on the streets the adults are children
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as well. So we need to you know, this needs
to be all inclusive. We need to protect our children.
Secretary Kennedy and I and a Secretary Turner have now
a road nap, a roadmap and guidelines that are going
to go across the United States, rescue missions across our country,
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and treatment center whether they're faith based or non faith based.
But we're bringing faith into the equation. We are reaching
out to our faith based communities as well and saying here,
this is a way to address homelessness and addiction through treatment. First,
let's do it. I just returned from Columbia. I got
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to tell you President Trump has been absolutely amazing his
policies and this administration. Our friendships, our connections and what
we're doing. We were in Columbia for the inauguration. I
was with Attorney General Blanche as well as the head
of DEA Administrator, Terry Cole, and we were there watching
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this great moment a shift in geopolitically in our hemisphere
where we now have the Tiger lt Ray President de
La s Brea in office, and he's going to be
working very closely with us in eradicating COCA and going
after the cartels. I leave today for our Tina where
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we will be holding the International Drug Enforcement Conference with
nations from all over the Western hem in Argentina in
Buenos Aires to discuss the best way to go after
the cartels and after adversaries that are poisoning and targeting
our children.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
This is non stop.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
President Trump has given us a mission, and we are
working to save lives in the United States and stop
the bad guys from bringing the bad stuff in. And
to know that in some cases, federal tax dollars actually
went these harms, so called harm reduction programs where you know,
they're passing out you know, foil, so that they can
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utilize that for their drug paraphernalia where they're allowing people
to shoot up and they give them housing, but there's
no treatment. There's no treatment, there's no help, there's no
you know, there's no guidance to recovery or living a
better life. But instead there are kept in like the
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shackles of their addiction and inside these horrific you know,
motels and decrepit buildings where where these are lost and
forgotten souls and right now on the streets. You're absolutely right,
these hot shots or we have at least at ONDCP
now with our wastewater testing and working as a whole
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of government with the CDC. For the first time, because
of the testing that we are doing on wastewater, we
were able to see metatomidine, which is known as rhinoceros
tranquilizer out on the streets. I mean, think about this.
It's one hundred just three hundred times more potent than
xylazine and it was out on the streets and it
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was killing our citizens. And we need to change in culture,
a change in the way we think about ourselves and
the way we treat drug use and drug addiction. And
we need to tell our kids you are wor more
than this. You can have anything in your life, just
do not be shackled down by you know, experimentation and drugs.
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This isn't a right of passage. This can actually kill you.
And we have enemies of our state that are out
there and that are targeting our country and that are
targeting our citizens. I always call this, you know, and
I've said it before, Sean, this is irregular warfare against us.
When you think about the type of sense and know
the type of precursors that have been you know, just
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basically smuggled into our country, and how they have affected
our nation, is it is very real. I think now
it's the time that we wake up and together as
a nation, we fight back on multiple levels, both inside
the United States and outside the United States. And that's
what President Trump has allowed us to do. And I mean,
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I feel grateful to be with people that are so
much that they are willing to do everything to save
lives and to save future generations of Americans. And that's
what we're doing with this treatment first approach. It doesn't
mean we don't want to get people.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Housing right quick break right back more with Sarah Carter,
our drugs are the director of the White House Office
of National Drug Control Policy. On the other side, we'll
also get your calls in Bruce Blakeman, new York gubernatorial candidate,
will join us. The President is going to New York
in Nasau County tomorrow. Anyway, there's one poll that shows
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at a four point race. Also, what the hell happened
in Wisconsin? Even Frank Lunz said, you know, the polling
that's taken place is so disgusting it should end. It
is hurting our electoral process. We'll get Scott Walker's take
on that coming up as well as we continue in
your calls eight hundred and nine four.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Our final love months with nation's drugs are the director
of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy,
Sarah Carter are old friend is with us. Let me
ask you, though, Sarah, what about the recidivism rate? I
know people that have been in and out of rehab,
you know, ten times before either they get off it
or die. Because that's basically that that's your choice. You
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either give up your addiction or the odds are high
that you're going to die from some drug related complication, overdose,
whatever it happens to be.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, Sean, You're absolutely right, and that's the tragedy. Right,
That's why primary prevention has to be number one we
have to reach our children. We have to reach them,
as a doctor Levi in our office always says, before
they jumped in the river, before they put their toes
in the river, before they start experimenting with these drugs,
because nothing good comes from it. You gave a great analogy,
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you know, with alcoholism, which is very deadly for some people,
destroy families, destroys life. You know, when you have those receptors,
when you become addicted and you're unable to unleash yourself
from those shackles, it becomes very very difficult. It's a
long process. Sometimes it takes multiple times to you know,
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sometimes at fort five, six, seven, eight, eight times going
into rehabby before people let it go. And if they
don't let it go, you know, the choices are very
very narrow, and a lot of times it ends in depth,
and that's the tragedy. So we want to get the
word out. We want to be there. This is why,
you know, it's generational as well. We want to get
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families off of our streets. We want to protect children.
We are a nation that is both tough but it's tearing,
and we are doing this so that we can actually
save lives. We talk about housing first in the past.
You know that didn't work. The recidivism rate was through
the roof. And a lot of addicts who have recovered
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have said to us, and these are personal testimonies, that
they couldn't even coming to California. You know that they
would get keys to an apartment, to a motel room
where they actually you know, they didn't have to pay
for it. They could go in and then they could
just use drugs and a lot of the people that
were using with them would die. But there was no
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follow through, there was no oversight. It was like wasted
taxpayer dollars leading to the deaths of Americans. That is
not going to happen anymore in the United States, not
if we have anything to.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Say about it.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
We're making sure that we get the roadmap to do
things the right way. As Secretary Turner said, we're pulling
the money so that the fraud stopped.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Sarah, you were made for this job. Our drugs are
She's the director of the White House Office of National
Drug Control Policy. Keep up the great work, Sarah. I'd
like to save lives. I put a high price on
human life, and you do too. Keep it up. We
appreciate it. Update us off in eight hundred. I happen
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to like our my county executive. You know, I left
New York now years ago, and I got a list
from lawyers and accountants. Do you realize there are now
entire industries that have been built up around how to
successfully leave blue states where they can't put their tentacles
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into you because there are more, for example, New York
State eight tax agents in my free state of Florida
than there are in New York. I mean, and when
so I hired accountants, and I hired a law firm,
and they came up with a list. There's nearly one
hundred items of things I had to do to completely
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cut myself off from New York, including don't go there
ever pretty much. And you know, I went once or
twice to visit family. I tend to I'd rather pay
their plane ticket, they rather come to Florida anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Number one. And then the all the things you.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Have to do to establish domicile residency in the Free
State of Florida.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And there's a ton of stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But one of the things they made you do is like, well,
if you keep your house, they'll they'll try and argue.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
That that is really where your heart is.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
You know, everyone believes this stupidity of six months in
a days. That's not how those people work. And I
know I've talked to too many people. They put them
through hell and it's just unbelievable and it just you know,
they push people out, then people leave. I mean they
basically Kathy Hokel, I want to just remind you what
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she said and then what Andrew CMO said. You know,
Kathy Hokel said to President Trump and Lee z Eldon,
get the hell out of town.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Go down to Florida where you belong. Here's what she said.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
And we're here to say that the era of Trump
and Zelden and mon Arro, just jump on a bus
and head down to Florida where you belong.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Okay, get out of town. Get out of town.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Their problem is not me and the Democrats.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Their problem is themselves. Who are they are they? These
extreme conservatives who are right to life, a pro assault weapon,
anti gay? Is that who they are? Because if that's
who they are, and if they are the extreme conservatives,
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they have no place in.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
The state of New York.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
So this was that's not who New Yorkers are.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I did, like my county executive.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
He's now running for governor, Bruce Blakeman now Kathy Hochel.
Also this week, you know, tried to use the Statue
of liberty and her argument to protect the illegal immigrants
and then sign one of the most comprehensive laws to
reign in ICE in the entire country.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Let me play both of those for you.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
The Statue of Liberty stands tall in our harbor for generations.
She's had a simple message, bring me or tired, you're poor,
your huddled masses yearning to be free. And despite the
utter lack of humanity and compassion coming out of Washington,
that method still means something here in New York. It
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means that in this state we treat all people with
dignity and decency, regardless of how they got here. And
that's one of the reasons I'm proudly signed one of
the most comprehensive laws to rein in ICE in the
entire country. It prohibits law enforcement agencies from having formal
agreements with ICE. That means, unless a crime has been committed,
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ICE cannot use local cops, their jails, their technology to
use local cops for civil immigration enforcement.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
All right, joining us. Now.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
He was a great county executive, and I had to
sell my house, you know, on which I happen to
like it. I would have kept it, maybe as a
vacation at home if I could afford it. I don't
know would I didn't have a choice. The lawyer's accountant said,
don't do it anyway. Bruce Blakeman is with us. He's
a great job as county executive, and the people love
him in Nassau County. By the way, if you look
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out a map of New York, it's all red, except
you got these five little burrows that are you know,
densely populated areas, including Zorn Marxist, Kami, Mamdannie's New York City,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Bruce, good to talk to you, my friend. How are you.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
I'm doing great, Sean, and we miss you very much.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You know, you're very kind. You know. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I had Comrade de Blasio on my podcast and I said,
you didn't really mean it when you said you wish
I didn't leave. He said, I actually did. Chuck Schumer
said the same thing to me. I'm like, well, you
chase me out. Two governors of a ROAs saying they
don't want me to live there.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Well, Sean, when high net worth individuals leave our state,
it hurts the carpenters, the electricians, the plumbers, the waiter,
the waitress, the bartender, and by New York frowning on
you coming back to New York is so stupid because
if you stayed in your second home, you would be
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creating economic opportunity. You'd be creating jobs. If you came
in to visit to go to a hotel, you'd be
patronizing a hotel restaurants. People in the Democratic Party, especially
the DSA, which as you said, there are a bunch
of commies and they're anti American. They don't understand that
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it's economic activity that makes it more affordable for people
because it puts more money in their pocket to make
choices on how they want to spend their money, rather
than Kathy Hoakland Zo Ron Mundami.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You know, I still stay in touch.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I used to go to, you know, restaurants on a
regular basis, Christ and Tony's and zioset a Rothman steakhouse.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I used to go there.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I'm still in touch with the people that own it
and the people that wait tables there. They all became
friends of mine, and they're like, you know, they seem
more more of this that people, regular customers are leaving
and it upsets them and it hurts their way of life.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The people you know that I would that worked for me.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Uh you know, whether landscapers or whatever happened to me.
I stay in touch with them all. I mean, it's
just in that sense, it's sad. Now I do like
Florida better. I'm not gonna lie because I like being
around the water, but I was on the water there.
It's just, you know, they're doing everything possible. Look what
what Mamdani did to Ken Griffin. What was your thoughts
on that? And now he's doxing everybody that owns a
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home that he claimed even though he's wrong half the time,
I judge stopped it.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Uh that it's not their full time residence.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Well, not only does it kill jobs and not only
is it bad for the economy, but what Ziah and
Mandani has been doing is anti American. This guy does
not believe in American values. This is a guy who
believes in collectivism, which is another word for communism. This
is a guy that on life force didn't have one
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good thing to say about America on the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary of the greatest nation in the world
that's created more prosperity for people and more freedom for
people than any other form of government. This is a
guy that's an anti Semite, he's anti Christian, and he's
anti American.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You know, I'm very fond of lee Zelden, and lee
Zelden in the.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Last election.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Outperformed all of my expectations because of mass migration. I
really do believe what I said is true. I think
you are the last great, final hope for New York State?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I wake up every morning with that burden on my shoulders,
and I know that I'm running for the right reasons
to save our state. We're in a death spiral now.
Sean the highest tax state in America, where fiftieth in
economic outlook are Electric bills are seventy percent higher than
the national average. People are suffering in the state. They're miserable.
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Under Kathy Hockel, she spent eight billion dollars of our
tax money on illegal migrants who weren't New Yorkers. They're
not Americans. They didn't earn a thing they get more
than New Yorkers get. It's absolutely insane. And each and
every day I have a Democrat that comes up to
me and says, I'm a lifelong Democrat. I've never voted
Republican before in my life. I'm voting for you, and
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I'm voting Republican this year because our party is crazy.
This is not the party of Mario Clomo. This is
not the party if you carry. This is not the
party of Daniel Patrick moynihan. It's not even the party
of Bill Clinton. Because you know what the difference is, Sean.
When we may have had political differences with people in
the Democratic Party, you and I, we know all along
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that they loved America. That we had differences, but they
loved America. This DSA Kathy hochels Zara Mandami, they hate America.
And that's the most troubling thing. And I'm running for
our kids and our grandkids to save our stay and
pull it out of that death spiral that Kathy Hoko
has us in so that we can create prosperity, cut taxes,
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cut electric bills, give people more freedom, and have safer communities.
Because they don't even respect our law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Well, we're going to follow this race closely. All our
prayers are with you, and I mean that sincerely. I
have a lot of friends in New York and I
know you'd crush it. I know you'd do a great job,
and I'm really really pulling for you in this campaign.
Bruce Blakeman, New York gubernatorial candidate. We really appreciate what
you're doing. Keep working hard. Oh, and you have President
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Trump coming tomorrow right.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
President Trump's coming tomorrow. He's going to visit all of
our law enforcement facilities, which are some of the best
in the world, and we're just honored to have him there.
He's coming to pay his respect to all the men
and women of law enforcement and volunteer firefighters and first responders.
So we're really proud of that. And I know he's
your good body, and we will certainly pass on your
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good greetings. And Sean, we love what you're doing. We
love you. We miss you. When I'm governor, you'll come
back here. Nobody will harass you. Make God bless you,
and make God bless America.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I really appreciate you, Bruce Blakeman. I please, if you're
a New York savior, state, Bruce will transform New York
in ways you can't imagine. All right, let's get to
a couple of calls. Cheryl is in Tennessee. Hello, Cheryl,
how are you.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Hi, Sean, I'm great. How are you?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm good? Glad you called.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I'm glad you took my call. I just wanted to
come back to something you were talking about yesterday, about
touching a lifeless body and why people would.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Oh my word, is this what you want to talk about?
Because Linda touches dead bodies like at a wake. You
don't think that's weird.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
No, I don't.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
And the reason I'm calling is to give you some insights,
so maybe you could understand why some people do. My
husband was taken for me suddenly and unexpectedly, and the
opportunity to speak to him was taken in a moment.
And I would have called up in his casket and
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laid with him as long as they allowed me to,
if I could have, because I knew as soon as
they closed it, I would never see him again this
side of heaven. I have no problem touching my loved one,
even though I know his spirit isn't there. But that's
the last representation physically of a man I spent thirty
years with and absolutely I would touch him. I caressed him,
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I kissed him, and I held his hand. I don't
have that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I mean, you know, you're making me feel terrible now
that I said a lot. What you're describing is a deep,
abiding love the couples I wish every couple had. And okay,
I'm making an exce option for you. I understand. I'm
so sorry for your loss. By the way, but Linda
like touches every dead body. It's it doesn't have to
be the husband that she just adored. But you're giving
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me a different perspective in your case. I don't have
a problem with it. In Linda's case, I have a
ton of problems with it.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
You may touch Angeli even though she's not there. I
could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'm not. No, well, I I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I you're making me open my mind and rethink it.
But honestly, I want I want to be remembered as
I am. I don't want to be remembered in a
coughin and people staring at me. But Cheryl, God bless you,
I'm sorry about your loss. Your husband sounds like a
one wonderful man, and you sound like you had a beautiful,
beautiful marriage.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I'm so happy for you.
All right, thanks Scott shot An hour two Sean Hannity Show,
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eight hundred and nine four one, Sean, if you want
to be a part of this program, this extravaganza, you know,
I will tell you one of the saddest things that
you get to see in life is addiction. I learned
a lot about addiction when I was seventeen years old.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I was working at a bar when I was twelve.
I've told the.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Story a million times that, like I know some of
you are saying, and don't tell it again. Linda is
the rolling her eyes right now. I was a dishwasher
every Friday, Saturday, Sunday night till two am in the morning.
At thirteen, I was a cook. Later I became a
bus boy waiter. Seventeen I was a bartender, and I
learned a lot about addiction. You know, in the case
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of alcohol addiction and alcoholism, it's so weird because every individual,
like your own DNA and your own fingerprint, has their number.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
What is the number?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, for some people, if they have one drink, it's
too much for them. Some people can't drink, they don't
metabolize it. It alters their personality immediately and they it
just brings the absolute worst out of them. For some people,
they have one drink and they like acting like woo,
that's kind of like Linda.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Is that you Linda? Which one of you? Some people
that have not a grinchy drinker, that is fake news.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I do not go.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Two or three but once for example. And this is
I'm using stereotypes which I don't like to use. But
there is something I observed that for example, men when
they drink too much either get into I love you, bro,
I love you my best friend, or they want to
fight somebody and they want to flirt with anybody at
(01:51):
the bar, even if a woman's with her married husband.
It's insane. Women tend to become a little more flirtatious.
But I've seen women fighting each other too, So there
is some commonality there. Now we're not even talking about.
As bad as that is, and that's bad, there are
all these other addictions on top of it, and you
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know it's and then you look at countries that are targeting.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Our youth with all of these these drugs.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You know feanyl, You know three grains of sault can
kill a this fentanyl, but the size of three grains
assault can kill a two hundred and fifty pounds man.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, you look at opioid addiction, heroin addiction, you know,
then you have prescription drug addiction, which is just out
of control.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
We are an over prescribed society. Period. End of sentence
is no other way to put it, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Robert Kennedy Junior discussed the Trump administration fight to end
homelessness in drug addiction. He himself went through years of this.
I had a long talk with him, a personal talk.
I wouldn't disclose the contents of it. And when you're
in the throes of addiction, it is almost for the
person impossible to get out of it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
It's hard to explain, but here's what he said.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
President Trump made this mission a national priority through the
Great American Recovery. His leadership has made it possible for
us to break down silos across the federal government, demand
accountability for results, and put recovery at the center of
our response to addiction and homelessness. We are directing federal
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resources towards programs that deliver lasting results, not programs that
perpetuate cycles of deedtalks, relapse, and re entry into care.
And we're already seeing progress. In fact, new provisional data
that was released today show that overdose tests have dropped
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I'm within twelve percent over the last twelve months. That
means nearly ten thousand more Americans alive today would otherwise
not be alive. Those numbers underscore what as and Trump
has made clear. When we put recovery first and demand results, we.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Save lives all right.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Joining us now is the director of the White House
Office of National Drug Policy, a longtime front of this program,
often referred to by the way as the Drugs Are Now.
Sarah Carter is with us, and she has done so
much work for this program and for Hannity the TV
show in terms of going down to the border dealing
with the illegal immigration and the drug smugglers and the cartels.
(04:31):
And she's seen it up close and personal. I had
the same experience when I used to go down on
the border twelve, fourteen, fifteen times, been in a drug warehouse,
the you know, Florida ceiling, the biggest warehouse you've ever seen,
with a stench you can't take. And you know this
is all drugs confiscated, you know, not counting all the
drugs that get through and the unbelievable ways that people
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smuggle drugs into this country. We're poisoning our children and
it's just terrible. Well, anyway, Sarah Carter, we miss you.
I'm glad you're the drugs are. I can't think of
a better person for this job. Tell us how it's going.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It's been going great, Sean. I'm here in San Diego.
I was with Secretary Kennedy here as well as Secretary
Scott Turner where our office, the Office of National Drug
Control Policy often yes referred to as the Drugs are
re released our Best Practices Toolkit. What it is is
a treatment first way of handling homelessness and drug addiction
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in the United States. It's not about housing first. Secretary
Turner Secretary Kennedy have been very clear. We are done
with waste, fraud, and abuse, and what we want at
on DCP, what we want is for people to live.
Every human being counts. We're not going to lock them
up in some motel give them housing without treatment. We
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want them to have treatment first, and we want rules
that protect children as well. You know, I'm here in
San Diego and I was speaking to folks out here
and I went around this beautiful city, absolutely stunning city.
And then one area of the city you can just
see the addiction these old methods of farm reduction, where
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people are in the streets and they've got needles in
their arms and they're you know, smoking cracks, they're using
mess they are shooting up Heroin with sentinel and the
horrors of seeing that and then realizing that amongst those
people that are on the streets the adults are children
(06:38):
as well. So we need to you know, this needs
to be all inclusive. We need to protect our children.
Secretary Kennedy and I and a Secretary Turner have now
a road nap, a roadmap and guidelines that are going
to go across the United States, rescue missions across our country,
(06:59):
and treatment center whether they're faith based or non faith based.
But we're bringing faith into the equation. We are reaching
out to our faith based communities as well and saying here,
this is a way to address homelessness and addiction through treatment. First,
let's do it. I just returned from Columbia. I got
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to tell you President Trump has been absolutely amazing his
policies and this administration. Our friendships, our connections and what
we're doing. We were in Columbia for the inauguration. I
was with Attorney General Blanche as well as the head
of DEA Administrator, Terry Cole, and we were there watching
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this great moment a shift in geopolitically in our hemisphere
where we now have the Tiger lt Ray President de
La s Brea in office, and he's going to be
working very closely with us in eradicating COCA and going
after the cartels. I leave today for our Tina where
(08:01):
we will be holding the International Drug Enforcement Conference with
nations from all over the Western hem in Argentina in
Buenos Aires to discuss the best way to go after
the cartels and after adversaries that are poisoning and targeting
our children.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
This is non stop.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
President Trump has given us a mission, and we are
working to save lives in the United States and stop
the bad guys from bringing the bad stuff in. And
to know that in some cases, federal tax dollars actually
went these harms, so called harm reduction programs where you know,
they're passing out you know, foil, so that they can
(08:40):
utilize that for their drug paraphernalia where they're allowing people
to shoot up and they give them housing, but there's
no treatment. There's no treatment, there's no help, there's no
you know, there's no guidance to recovery or living a
better life. But instead there are kept in like the
(09:02):
shackles of their addiction and inside these horrific you know,
motels and decrepit buildings where where these are lost and
forgotten souls and right now on the streets. You're absolutely right,
these hot shots or we have at least at ONDCP
now with our wastewater testing and working as a whole
(09:24):
of government with the CDC. For the first time, because
of the testing that we are doing on wastewater, we
were able to see metatomidine, which is known as rhinoceros
tranquilizer out on the streets. I mean, think about this.
It's one hundred just three hundred times more potent than
xylazine and it was out on the streets and it
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was killing our citizens. And we need to change in culture,
a change in the way we think about ourselves and
the way we treat drug use and drug addiction. And
we need to tell our kids you are wor more
than this. You can have anything in your life, just
do not be shackled down by you know, experimentation and drugs.
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This isn't a right of passage. This can actually kill you.
And we have enemies of our state that are out
there and that are targeting our country and that are
targeting our citizens. I always call this, you know, and
I've said it before, Sean, this is irregular warfare against us.
When you think about the type of sense and know
the type of precursors that have been you know, just
(10:30):
basically smuggled into our country, and how they have affected
our nation, is it is very real. I think now
it's the time that we wake up and together as
a nation, we fight back on multiple levels, both inside
the United States and outside the United States. And that's
what President Trump has allowed us to do. And I mean,
(10:51):
I feel grateful to be with people that are so
much that they are willing to do everything to save
lives and to save future generations of Americans. And that's
what we're doing with this treatment first approach. It doesn't
mean we don't want to get people.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Housing right quick break right back more with Sarah Carter,
our drugs are the director of the White House Office
of National Drug Control Policy. On the other side, we'll
also get your calls in Bruce Blakeman, new York gubernatorial candidate,
will join us. The President is going to New York
in Nasau County tomorrow. Anyway, there's one poll that shows
(11:29):
at a four point race. Also, what the hell happened
in Wisconsin? Even Frank Lunz said, you know, the polling
that's taken place is so disgusting it should end. It
is hurting our electoral process. We'll get Scott Walker's take
on that coming up as well as we continue in
your calls eight hundred and nine four.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Our final love months with nation's drugs are the director
of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy,
Sarah Carter are old friend is with us. Let me
ask you, though, Sarah, what about the recidivism rate? I
know people that have been in and out of rehab,
you know, ten times before either they get off it
or die. Because that's basically that that's your choice. You
(12:13):
either give up your addiction or the odds are high
that you're going to die from some drug related complication, overdose,
whatever it happens to be.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, Sean, You're absolutely right, and that's the tragedy. Right,
That's why primary prevention has to be number one we
have to reach our children. We have to reach them,
as a doctor Levi in our office always says, before
they jumped in the river, before they put their toes
in the river, before they start experimenting with these drugs,
because nothing good comes from it. You gave a great analogy,
(12:48):
you know, with alcoholism, which is very deadly for some people,
destroy families, destroys life. You know, when you have those receptors,
when you become addicted and you're unable to unleash yourself
from those shackles, it becomes very very difficult. It's a
long process. Sometimes it takes multiple times to you know,
(13:12):
sometimes at fort five, six, seven, eight, eight times going
into rehabby before people let it go. And if they
don't let it go, you know, the choices are very
very narrow, and a lot of times it ends in depth,
and that's the tragedy. So we want to get the
word out. We want to be there. This is why,
you know, it's generational as well. We want to get
(13:33):
families off of our streets. We want to protect children.
We are a nation that is both tough but it's tearing,
and we are doing this so that we can actually
save lives. We talk about housing first in the past.
You know that didn't work. The recidivism rate was through
the roof. And a lot of addicts who have recovered
(13:55):
have said to us, and these are personal testimonies, that
they couldn't even coming to California. You know that they
would get keys to an apartment, to a motel room
where they actually you know, they didn't have to pay
for it. They could go in and then they could
just use drugs and a lot of the people that
were using with them would die. But there was no
(14:17):
follow through, there was no oversight. It was like wasted
taxpayer dollars leading to the deaths of Americans. That is
not going to happen anymore in the United States, not
if we have anything to.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Say about it.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
We're making sure that we get the roadmap to do
things the right way. As Secretary Turner said, we're pulling
the money so that the fraud stopped.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Sarah, you were made for this job. Our drugs are
She's the director of the White House Office of National
Drug Control Policy. Keep up the great work, Sarah. I'd
like to save lives. I put a high price on
human life, and you do too. Keep it up. We
appreciate it. Update us off in eight hundred. I happen
(15:02):
to like our my county executive. You know, I left
New York now years ago, and I got a list
from lawyers and accountants. Do you realize there are now
entire industries that have been built up around how to
successfully leave blue states where they can't put their tentacles
(15:22):
into you because there are more, for example, New York
State eight tax agents in my free state of Florida
than there are in New York. I mean, and when
so I hired accountants, and I hired a law firm,
and they came up with a list. There's nearly one
hundred items of things I had to do to completely
(15:44):
cut myself off from New York, including don't go there
ever pretty much. And you know, I went once or
twice to visit family. I tend to I'd rather pay
their plane ticket, they rather come to Florida anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Number one. And then the all the things you.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Have to do to establish domicile residency in the Free
State of Florida.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And there's a ton of stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
But one of the things they made you do is like, well,
if you keep your house, they'll they'll try and argue.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
That that is really where your heart is.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
You know, everyone believes this stupidity of six months in
a days. That's not how those people work. And I
know I've talked to too many people. They put them
through hell and it's just unbelievable and it just you know,
they push people out, then people leave. I mean they
basically Kathy Hokel, I want to just remind you what
(16:35):
she said and then what Andrew CMO said. You know,
Kathy Hokel said to President Trump and Lee z Eldon,
get the hell out of town.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Go down to Florida where you belong. Here's what she said.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
And we're here to say that the era of Trump
and Zelden and mon Arro, just jump on a bus
and head down to Florida where you belong.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Okay, get out of town. Get out of town.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Their problem is not me and the Democrats.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Their problem is themselves. Who are they are they? These
extreme conservatives who are right to life, a pro assault weapon,
anti gay? Is that who they are? Because if that's
who they are, and if they are the extreme conservatives,
(17:25):
they have no place in.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
The state of New York.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
So this was that's not who New Yorkers are.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I did, like my county executive.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
He's now running for governor, Bruce Blakeman now Kathy Hochel.
Also this week, you know, tried to use the Statue
of liberty and her argument to protect the illegal immigrants
and then sign one of the most comprehensive laws to
reign in ICE in the entire country.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Let me play both of those for you.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
The Statue of Liberty stands tall in our harbor for generations.
She's had a simple message, bring me or tired, you're poor,
your huddled masses yearning to be free. And despite the
utter lack of humanity and compassion coming out of Washington,
that method still means something here in New York. It
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means that in this state we treat all people with
dignity and decency, regardless of how they got here. And
that's one of the reasons I'm proudly signed one of
the most comprehensive laws to rein in ICE in the
entire country. It prohibits law enforcement agencies from having formal
agreements with ICE. That means, unless a crime has been committed,
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ICE cannot use local cops, their jails, their technology to
use local cops for civil immigration enforcement.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
All right, joining us. Now.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
He was a great county executive, and I had to
sell my house, you know, on which I happen to
like it. I would have kept it, maybe as a
vacation at home if I could afford it. I don't
know would I didn't have a choice. The lawyer's accountant said,
don't do it anyway. Bruce Blakeman is with us. He's
a great job as county executive, and the people love
him in Nassau County. By the way, if you look
(19:06):
out a map of New York, it's all red, except
you got these five little burrows that are you know,
densely populated areas, including Zorn Marxist, Kami, Mamdannie's New York City,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Bruce, good to talk to you, my friend. How are you.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
I'm doing great, Sean, and we miss you very much.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You know, you're very kind. You know. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I had Comrade de Blasio on my podcast and I said,
you didn't really mean it when you said you wish
I didn't leave. He said, I actually did. Chuck Schumer
said the same thing to me. I'm like, well, you
chase me out. Two governors of a ROAs saying they
don't want me to live there.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Well, Sean, when high net worth individuals leave our state,
it hurts the carpenters, the electricians, the plumbers, the waiter,
the waitress, the bartender, and by New York frowning on
you coming back to New York is so stupid because
if you stayed in your second home, you would be
(20:03):
creating economic opportunity. You'd be creating jobs. If you came
in to visit to go to a hotel, you'd be
patronizing a hotel restaurants. People in the Democratic Party, especially
the DSA, which as you said, there are a bunch
of commies and they're anti American. They don't understand that
(20:25):
it's economic activity that makes it more affordable for people
because it puts more money in their pocket to make
choices on how they want to spend their money, rather
than Kathy Hoakland Zo Ron Mundami.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You know, I still stay in touch.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I used to go to, you know, restaurants on a
regular basis, Christ and Tony's and zioset a Rothman steakhouse.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I used to go there.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I'm still in touch with the people that own it
and the people that wait tables there. They all became
friends of mine, and they're like, you know, they seem
more more of this that people, regular customers are leaving
and it upsets them and it hurts their way of life.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The people you know that I would that worked for me.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Uh you know, whether landscapers or whatever happened to me.
I stay in touch with them all. I mean, it's
just in that sense, it's sad. Now I do like
Florida better. I'm not gonna lie because I like being
around the water, but I was on the water there.
It's just, you know, they're doing everything possible. Look what
what Mamdani did to Ken Griffin. What was your thoughts
on that? And now he's doxing everybody that owns a
(21:32):
home that he claimed even though he's wrong half the time,
I judge stopped it.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Uh that it's not their full time residence.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Well, not only does it kill jobs and not only
is it bad for the economy, but what Ziah and
Mandani has been doing is anti American. This guy does
not believe in American values. This is a guy who
believes in collectivism, which is another word for communism. This
is a guy that on life force didn't have one
(22:02):
good thing to say about America on the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary of the greatest nation in the world
that's created more prosperity for people and more freedom for
people than any other form of government. This is a
guy that's an anti Semite, he's anti Christian, and he's
anti American.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You know, I'm very fond of lee Zelden, and lee
Zelden in the.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Last election.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Outperformed all of my expectations because of mass migration. I
really do believe what I said is true. I think
you are the last great, final hope for New York State?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
I wake up every morning with that burden on my shoulders,
and I know that I'm running for the right reasons
to save our state. We're in a death spiral now.
Sean the highest tax state in America, where fiftieth in
economic outlook are Electric bills are seventy percent higher than
the national average. People are suffering in the state. They're miserable.
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Under Kathy Hockel, she spent eight billion dollars of our
tax money on illegal migrants who weren't New Yorkers. They're
not Americans. They didn't earn a thing they get more
than New Yorkers get. It's absolutely insane. And each and
every day I have a Democrat that comes up to
me and says, I'm a lifelong Democrat. I've never voted
Republican before in my life. I'm voting for you, and
(23:28):
I'm voting Republican this year because our party is crazy.
This is not the party of Mario Clomo. This is
not the party if you carry. This is not the
party of Daniel Patrick moynihan. It's not even the party
of Bill Clinton. Because you know what the difference is, Sean.
When we may have had political differences with people in
the Democratic Party, you and I, we know all along
(23:50):
that they loved America. That we had differences, but they
loved America. This DSA Kathy hochels Zara Mandami, they hate America.
And that's the most troubling thing. And I'm running for
our kids and our grandkids to save our stay and
pull it out of that death spiral that Kathy Hoko
has us in so that we can create prosperity, cut taxes,
(24:12):
cut electric bills, give people more freedom, and have safer communities.
Because they don't even respect our law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Well, we're going to follow this race closely. All our
prayers are with you, and I mean that sincerely. I
have a lot of friends in New York and I
know you'd crush it. I know you'd do a great job,
and I'm really really pulling for you in this campaign.
Bruce Blakeman, New York gubernatorial candidate. We really appreciate what
you're doing. Keep working hard. Oh, and you have President
(24:42):
Trump coming tomorrow right.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
President Trump's coming tomorrow. He's going to visit all of
our law enforcement facilities, which are some of the best
in the world, and we're just honored to have him there.
He's coming to pay his respect to all the men
and women of law enforcement and volunteer firefighters and first responders.
So we're really proud of that. And I know he's
your good body, and we will certainly pass on your
(25:07):
good greetings. And Sean, we love what you're doing. We
love you. We miss you. When I'm governor, you'll come
back here. Nobody will harass you. Make God bless you,
and make God bless America.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I really appreciate you, Bruce Blakeman. I please, if you're
a New York savior, state, Bruce will transform New York
in ways you can't imagine. All right, let's get to
a couple of calls. Cheryl is in Tennessee. Hello, Cheryl,
how are you.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Hi, Sean, I'm great. How are you?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I'm good? Glad you called.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I'm glad you took my call. I just wanted to
come back to something you were talking about yesterday, about
touching a lifeless body and why people would.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Oh my word, is this what you want to talk about?
Because Linda touches dead bodies like at a wake. You
don't think that's weird.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
No, I don't.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
And the reason I'm calling is to give you some insights,
so maybe you could understand why some people do. My
husband was taken for me suddenly and unexpectedly, and the
opportunity to speak to him was taken in a moment.
And I would have called up in his casket and
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laid with him as long as they allowed me to,
if I could have, because I knew as soon as
they closed it, I would never see him again this
side of heaven. I have no problem touching my loved one,
even though I know his spirit isn't there. But that's
the last representation physically of a man I spent thirty
years with and absolutely I would touch him. I caressed him,
(26:44):
I kissed him, and I held his hand. I don't
have that.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I mean, you know, you're making me feel terrible now
that I said a lot. What you're describing is a deep,
abiding love the couples I wish every couple had. And okay,
I'm making an exce option for you. I understand. I'm
so sorry for your loss. By the way, but Linda
like touches every dead body. It's it doesn't have to
be the husband that she just adored. But you're giving
(27:14):
me a different perspective in your case. I don't have
a problem with it. In Linda's case, I have a
ton of problems with it.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
You may touch Angeli even though she's not there. I
could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'm not. No, well, I I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I you're making me open my mind and rethink it.
But honestly, I want I want to be remembered as
I am. I don't want to be remembered in a
coughin and people staring at me. But Cheryl, God bless you,
I'm sorry about your loss. Your husband sounds like a
one wonderful man, and you sound like you had a beautiful,
beautiful marriage.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I'm so happy for you.
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Dateline NBC
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