March 3, 2026 • 28 mins
In Hour 2, Sean Hannity examines what comes after the elimination of Iran’s top clerical leadership. As additional regime figures are reportedly targeted while attempting to select a successor, Hannity shifts the focus to the Iranian people and opposition movements. Featuring members of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, the discussion centers on whether this moment could finally break the 47-year theocracy. Hannity presses key questions about internal resistance, the Revolutionary Guard, and whether an organized democratic alternative is ready to step forward. The message is clear: lasting change must come from within Iran — but the conditions may now exist for that change to begin.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hour two Sean Hannity Show told Free it is eight
hundred and nine four one Sean, if you want to
be a part of the program. I mean, this was
a spectacular day today for both Israel and the United States,
and what they've been able to pull off today is remarkable.
Israel striking Iranian leadership. They were there to choose Ali
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Hamani's successor. More than forty more senior Iranian officials leaders killed.
Since you know, Operation Epic Fury began on Saturday and
this was supposed to be the next generation, Israel leveled
the building where the clerics gathered to select Iran's new
supreme leader. Here to talk about the future of what
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Iran may look like. The president thinks this could go
on four to five weeks. Ali Reza ja'far As the
day is with us is the deputy director of the
National Council of Resistance of Iran, and hue Hen Gobody
is the spokesperson for the People's mo Den Organization of Iran.
(01:08):
And welcome both of you to the program. I guess
I'll start with you Ali Raza. Let me ask you,
where do you see this going and do you see
a new leadership emerging now that the clerics get taken
out in massive numbers. This is now the second massive
attack against the leadership.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thank you so much Sean for having me on your show.
I fully agree with you that this regime must be
brought down by the people of Iran, and they're not
going to leave this scene now. In terms of the
affid the death of Harmony, the process for choosing the
next leader, I think in reality that's a much process
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because after the death of Harmony, this is really the
end of the religious theocracies. This is the end of
the regime. No matter who they're going to put in place,
how much temporary oxygen is left for them, this era
is over. The game is over now. The question is
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how would the change happen inside the country by the people,
And I fully agree with you at the end of
the day, it's those resistance forces on the ground we've
been confronting the revolution guards that are going to determine
the future of the country. Interestingly, just last week on Monday,
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five days before the Comedy is Death, the forces organized
forces of the main RNI in opposition movement, the majority
how the MEK launched a massive strike against the headquarters
of the supremely their comedy inflicting heavy casualties on the
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Revolutionary Guards and one hundred members of the MEK were
either killed or arrested, but another one hundred and fifty
managed to leave the country. And most importantly, the leader
of the movement, the president of the ANCIRA, is a woman,
missus Mariam Rajavi, who called for She announced the provisional
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government for the transitional period to transfer sovereignty from the
repressive rulers of Iran to the elected representatives of the
people of Iran. And she and her message made it
very clear that when it comes to the armed forces
to take sides with the people of Iran, when it
comes to revolutionary Guards, because they've been heavily involved in
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keeping this system in power, they need to lay down
their arms and surrender to the population now.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Shue Hen Gobodi, I know you put out an ex
post talking about Mariam Rajave and New Kingrid to describe
this woman as the woman led resistance of the Iranian
regime when they fear the most, and women in the
political arena can be very potent transformational figures and of
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transformational force. He said, I know this firsthand from almost
fifty years of challenging you know, in the challenging field
of politics. Is this somebody a dark course that maybe
the world doesn't know about now that could rise to power.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yes, Sean, First of all, thanks for having me in
your show. Yes, definitely. You see, Madame Mariam Reggevi has
been fighting, as you said, for almost more than fifty
years against post the child's leadership and the Mullah's tyranney,
and she has established a very viable alternative, the National
Council of Resistance of Iran, in which sixty percent of
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the senior officials are women. And actually she has introduced
a ten point plan for transferring sovereigny to the people
of Iran, and that plan basically calls for separational government
and religion, for gender equality, universal suffrage, and non nuclear
run mutual amicable aiming the relationship for the rest of
the world. And they telling me for thousand parliamentarians, including
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majority members of the US House of Representatives in a
bipartisan way, have endorsed her plan. And she has also
you know, has a very strong network of activists inside Iran.
So in fact, she has been basically establishing the groundwork
for the transitional period and a blueprint or roadmap for
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that time, so there will not be any chaos when
the Mullas are out and Iranian people take control of
the country that belongs to them first and foremost.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, we do have to worry about holdovers, don't we.
There are still probably remaining loyalists to the dead clerics
and supreme leader. That probably will be problematic moving down
the road.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Now absolutely, yes, you have a very good observation there.
But you see, when the history has shown us that
when basically it becomes quite evident that the Mullas have
reached the end of the road, and they are growing
signs to that. As you know, the rats jump the
ship and that has been the case in many many
cases in the history, and I'm sure it will happen
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in Iran, and as Ali Reza said, we have airs
on army. It will be on the side of the people.
But the IRGC has to surrender to the people. But
to your point in specific, there has an uptick of
activities of the resistance units in the past couple of
years and particularly the last few weeks, and they take
on you know, the besiege, you know, Para military offices
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and a lot of the regime signs. So indeed, the
Evenian people at the end of the day will overcome
the IRGC and overwhelm them, and that's the only way
that they can arrest the control of the country and
a new day in Iran. So I totally agree with
you that the key factor at the end of the
day would be the Rnian people and the organized resistance
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who have to overwhelm IRGC, who still decides to be
on the side of the Mulas and take the country
back Ali Raza.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
They're not going to be able to do that with slingshots.
At some point, the people that you know had taken
to the streets and massive numbers that were slaughtered by
the tens of thousands. You can't win a revolution with
a sling shot. At some point they are going to
need to be armed to take out the remaining loyalists
that would exist.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I agree with you, Sean, but the problem regarding Iran
over the years has not been that the people didn't
have arms. We had several problems. Number one, there was
this policy of appeasement by the West that's constantly.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's a massive problem that they haven't been armed. That's why,
you know, when Ali Hamane, you know, sent out the
guards to quell the the people that were out there protesting.
They were mowed down. They had no way to defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, no, My point is that now this situation has
changed and the people the resistance are armed. You know,
I just mentioned about the massive You're.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Saying that the majority of the resistance is armed, and
if so, how have they been armed by the Curds.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
No, not the majority, but a good number from are
actually armed. You know, you had two hundred and fifty
of them attacking the headquarters of the Supreme Dealer. However,
the once the momentum shifts, there is plenty of arms
inny On. We had a lot of reports during the uprising,
the process last month that people were number one, disarming
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the revolutionary guards, second attacking the places where they had
their arm depot and ammunition, taking away arms from them.
Plus adding to that, you have areas where you know,
the minorities, the nationalities have easier access to arms. You
mentioned the Kurdish region, there were you know, the border
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regions are probably more accessible to arms. So that's that's
the life. I think once the momentum shifts, you will
see how everyone is actually looking for it, and they'll
find a way to do it. But the most important
element is that you need to have an organization on
the ground, and just the arms itself doesn't help you.
(09:10):
The good news is that that organization does exist. You know,
the main opposition movement the m K, which is the
same movement that exposed all the major nuclear sides of Irana,
and they have a history of fighting the regime over
the years and they have tremendous organizational capabilities. They were,
you know, they had an army, a powerful army, resistance
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army known as the National Liberation Army of Iran. They
know how to fight the iatolas. The most important thing
is the once the policy is shifted in favor of
those who are standing up against the regime, that are
you know, recognizing the legitimacy of those underground to fight
the Vision Guards. You can see how much in space
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it creates for the younger generation to join for with
the resistance. You needs to underground with the NEK to
expand the networks. Even that during the uprising in January,
we saw many evidences of that that a lot of
the young people joined the organized force on the ground
and even though the regime killed so many people, but
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they actually expanded the recruitment and there are more people
on board with this movement than they were even two
months ago. So that's the the you know, the the
momentum shift that really changes everything.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Schuhan, I would argue that the best thing that could
probably happen is they overwhelm the remaining Revolutionary Guard forces
and get into the munitions, cash and and take out
as many of their weapons as possible. Do we have
any indication about how many people remain loyal to the
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now dead regime that may be carrying out more murder
of innocent p pulled the way they had been in
the lead up to this conflict.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Obviously I don't have an exact figure, but I think
what you said, Sean makes a lot of sense that
at one point what you said becomes inevitable, as we
saw in the last days of people getting of the
previous deicatortion. You've been around during the shots, this is
exactly what happened. With the big difference at this time.
This is much more organized and much more focused. And
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one indication is that as we witnessed in the fortieth
ceremonies of those who were slain and thousands of one thousands,
as you mentioned, is that this mood of rage and
people waiting for the moment to take things in their
own hands. And now this being more organized, obviously the
tactics will be decided as the situation on the ground dictates.
(11:45):
But as I mentioned, even in the past few days,
despite you know what's going on, we have seen an
uptick of activities of resistance units, you know, going after
this pasiege, which is like the local militias controlling the
areas taken over by the resistance series. So things are
moving in that direction, and I'm sure at one point
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the power of the people who were much more organized
around any kay would overwhelm a r DECI and over
still hopes, you know, to clean on the Iotolo's rule.
But that they projective is exactly the way you said it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Are they raiser? Where does love uh sit in this
equation if at all?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
The only connection of Alavi has to Iran, his father,
the dictator that was deposed by a genuine popular revolution.
Millions of people came to the streets over through that dictatorship.
Why because Shaw had the sixty police of Arcs that
put intellectuals in jail. Shah built the notorious event prison.
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He dissolved all of the political parties that were legion
to him anyways and created one single party you called
Rasais and asked everyone to either join that party or
go to jail, or get your passport and leave the
country for good. He was extremely corrupt and that really
led to the revolution. So he is actually representing the
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past of Iran. No one is interested in that. Every
time that he's interviewed and he's asked about his father,
the rule of his father and grandfather, he says that, basically,
that's a different narrative. I'm not going to talk about
the past. I'm always about the future. He refuses to
reject the dictatorship of the show. Second, we talk about
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the national minorities in Iran. You know about at least
forty percent of the Irnian population or the Kourgs, the Valuchis,
the Arabs, the azari Is, the lawyers and others. All
of them were We haven'tly opposed to the path Avi
dynasty that badly suppressed them. You know, there is a
Residents show Muhammad Zaphandabi as bad as you know, the
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College theocracy and they're all opposed to it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Interesting, j Well, I want to see how this plays out.
I mean, our hope is that there'll be a democratic Republican,
a duly elected government, and people will be able to
hear from various factions and hopefully choose a better path
for their future. But that's going to have to happen
from within. That's not going to be America that does it.
That's not going to be any country in the region
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that does it. It's going to be up to the
Iranian people what kind of future they want, that's for sure.
And obviously there'll be some varying political factions that will
be fighting for the hearts and minds of the people
of Iran. I hope they choose wisely. This may be
their only opportunity. Thank you both, appreciate it. Thank you
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Ali Rasa, Thank you Shuhn. We appreciate you both being
one of us. Quick break right back, we'll continue on
the other side. It was fascinating to get an inside
glimpse into the negotiations, especially after Midnight Hammer and fourteen
bunker buster bombs by Donald Trump taken out and obliterating
Iran's nuclear sites. This after Israel, you know, wiped out
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their their nuclear scientists, wiped out their air defense systems,
their ballistic missile systems. I mean, just absolutely decimated the country,
both Israel and the US. In that first effort maneuvers,
you know, they controlled the entire sky. This goes back
to last June, and you know, and then the you
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would think the Iranians might have learned that they're they're
just outmatched. They learned nothing. And here's Steve Whitkoff, Middle
East envoy, describing in detail him and Jared Kushner meeting
with the Iranians and saying, you can't have nuclear weapons.
Donald Trump has been very clear, but they just cling
to this notion. We're clinging to the notion that they could.
(15:52):
Well how did that end up for them? Listen, the
world's number one state sponsor of terror is getting dismantled
right before a very high is history in the making.
This is the very same regime that tried to assassinate
President Trump, not once, but twice. They have now lost
their supreme leader Ali Kameni and almost everyone else in
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his inner circle forty total. Trump told ABC quote, I
got him before he got me. They tried twice. I
got him first here with more on what led up
to this operation Epic Fury. Our special envoy to the
Middle East front of the program, Steve Wikoff, is with us.
All Right, you're in the room with these negotiators, and
I know you you are a deal maker. The President
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wanted a deal. You odd a lot of latitude in
that room. Bring us inside that room.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
First of all, Sean, thanks, good night, good evening, and
thanks for having me. So just to give you a
little bit of a taste for how these three days
of negotiations went. Three separate times, Jared and I opened
up with the Iranian negotiators telling us they had the
inalienable right to enrich all their nuclear fuel that they possessed.
(17:04):
That's how they opened up. We of course responded that
the President feels we have the inalienable right to stop
you dead year tracks. They then went on to say
that beyond the inalienable right to enrich, that that was
going to be their starting point, and Jared and I
(17:27):
just sort of looked at ourselves flum mixed, and said, well,
we're really in for it now.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well let me get a little in the wheeze if
we can. My understanding was you got to a point
where you were discussing enriched uranium at much very low
levels for civilian purposes, although I don't think they really
need it, because they have all the energy they'd ever want.
But did that come up? Was that offer made to them?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
We discussed with them ten years of no enrichment whatsoever,
and we would pay for the fuel. And it was
flatly rejected. And the presidents says for you that to
have a good faith negotiation, pardon me.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
You're saying that we would give it to them, and
they rejected it.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
They actually had that, and they rejected that, which told
us at that very moment that they had no notion
of doing anything other than retaining enrichment for the purpose
of weaponizing.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You made a statement last week and when I heard it,
and I've known you for a long time and you
are a friend, and when you made the statement that
in fact, they may be a week away from possibly
having capability at that moment, I interpreted that to mean
it's go time, It's over. Was I wrong? Was that
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the moment that it was over?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Well, I don't know if that exact moment it was over,
but I know this. They have ten thousand roughly kilograms
of fissionable material that's broken up into roughly four hundred
and sixty kilograms of sixty percent enriched uranium, another thousand
kilograms of twenty percent enriched uranium, and the balance is
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at three point sixty seven. They manufacture their own centrifuges
to enrich this material, so there's almost no stopping them.
They have an endless supply of it. The sixty percent
materials SEAN can be brought to ninety percent that's weapon grade,
weapons grade in roughly one week, maybe ten days at
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the outside. The twenty percent can be brought to weapons
grade inside of three to four weeks. And let me
say this, because I forgot this small little detail. In
that first meeting, both the Iranian negotiators said to us directly,
with no shame, that they controlled four hundred and sixty
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kilograms of sixty percent and they're aware that that could
make eleven nuclear bombs. And that was the beginning of
the negotiating stance. So they were proud of it. They
were proud that they had evaded all sorts of oversight
protocols to get to a place where they could deliver
eleven nuclear bombs.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
What I wouldn't do to be a fly on the
wall in that room, because Steve, you're a negotiator. You've
run the most successful businesses, built some of the most
beautiful golf courses. It defies all logic and reason for
them to sit there as if Midnight hammered never happened
and dictate to you that the one thing that President
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Trump insisted on, they can't get a nuclear weapon. They're
going to go forward anyway. How stupid are they were?
They they're done, They're gone.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Now, well, well it was pretty silly, but they thought
they could strong arm us. You know, President Trump sent
me and Jared there to really determine on his behalf
whether they were serious about doing a deal that that
addressed his objectives, which are elimination of their of their
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missile program, elimination of their advocacy and support for proxies
which is destabilizing the entire Middle East, elimination of their
navy so we can have freedom of the seas and
not be threatened with the shutdown of the Gulf of Hormus.
And finally, no nuclear enrichment that can get them to
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weapons grade, which means no nuclear bomb. And we went
in there and tried to make a fair deal with them,
and it was it was It was very very clear
that it was that it was going to be impossible,
probably by the end of the second meeting, but we
then went back for the third meeting just to give
it the last college try, and of course they thought
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they wanted us to report positivity. It was it was
not positive that meeting.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Oh, Steve Woodcoff, I know you've been plying all over
the globe, and you know at on your own dime.
I think people do need to know that if you
don't mind me telling people serving your country, serving the president,
doing your best to bring peace to the world. They
brought this action on themselves. You gave them every opportunity
to take the exit ramp off. They decided not to.
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But we really appreciate you sharing all that with us.
Steve Witcoff, Middle East m Boy, Thank you, sir. That
was Steve Whitcoff, the Middle East don Boy describing the private,
behind the scenes meetings, telling the Iranians, under no circumstances
can they have nuclear weapons and they just flat out refused.
This is after Operation Midnight Hammer, so they've they brought
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all of this on themselves. We'll get to your calls.
Coming up next eight hundred nine poot one. Shawn is
on number Also my interview with Prime Minister net and
Yahoo coming up in mere moments. Let's get to our
busy phones. Philip is in Texas, Philip, God bless Texas.
How are you?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
So?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
We are glad you called?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Oh, thank you very much, Sean big fan.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
What's going on? I appreciate it. What's happening?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Oh? Also, I've got a couple of SIGs myself, so
I agree with you there. It's kind of funny. I
actually uh and live in Dallas, but in usin right
now for to hear my father. But was at the
on Saturday, the the Iranian protests against America and the Gallery.
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I drove by it. Unbelievable, people holding signs, screaming, yelling,
down with America, down with Israel, down with Ice. Most
almost all the women were in tight beads covered up,
just you know, screaming and yelling. Then I went I
went to Sundays stand with Iran's rally. I'm Jewish and
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there were Jewish people. There was the Christians, Catholics standing
with Israel, staying with Iran. They had people screaming, thank
you Donald Trump, thank you Bb you know, and you're
sitting there looking at the overall people. I had a
woman come up to me and say, you know what,
for the first time, I don't have to say I'm Persian.
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I can say I'm a Ranient. And and the thing
is for me was it was so funny. It was
that you could see the difference. One was about death
and destruction and misery and wanting to keep the Islamic
regime and the you know, the Islamic ideology going. And
then one was about freedom and love and taking care
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of the next step and prosperity. I mean, it was unbelievable.
And I told it, you know, I was said, I
have right now, my oldest nephew and his wife and
my youngest niece are actually in Jerusalem. They can't get out.
My sister's losing her mind.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I can only say that the disparity that you see,
but we will always have this disagreement. The radical left
in this country, you know now they you know, you
have Hakeem Jeffery suggesting that we're going to lose this
conflict in Iran when all the evidence is to the contrary.
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You don't take anything for granted. You've got to finish
the job. Then it's going to be in the hands
of the Iranian people. They will choose their destiny. This
is a party now that is against voter id and
voter integrity.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
This is a.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Party that wants open borders and sanctuary cities and states
and amnesty. This is a party that wants defund dismantle
of police departments and no bail laws. This is a
party that wants to defund the Department of Homeland Security,
which they're doing now. This is a party that is
against energy independence. This is a party that voted for
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the largest tax increase in history rather than voting for
the largest tax cut in history. So the competing visions
that exist in this country exist around the world, and
there are freedom loving people everywhere. I don't have any
patients for people that don't understand, or refuse to understand,
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or have a political agenda, you know, or influencers likely
being paid through some show company associated with some agenda
that they are taking the most radical, extreme positions and
they make no sense at all whatsoever. They don't understand
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or they don't want to understand, or they have an agenda.
I'm not sure which it is, and I don't really care.
But if you don't understand that the Iranians never being
able to acquire nuclear weapons is a smart thing, then
I have nothing to talk to you about, because I
think you're dumb. I think you're an idiot. I think
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you're an imbecile. I think you are nai And I
think that either you're being motivated by some agenda or
you just choose to live in ignorance. It's sort of
like the people in Iran and being slaughtered. Nobody protested
on a college campus. You didn't hear any condemnation from
the left, but they certainly condemned Israel even though forty
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the equivalent of forty thousand Israelis were killed. If they
had the same population size as America on October seventh,
if forty thousand Americans died here in the day, we
would obliterate any country that did that to us. Rightly, so,
and oh, they're committing genocide and college campuses, and you
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know the rise of anti Semitism around the world and
in the punditry class, and I'm just sick and tired
of all of it. I think there are a lot
of ignorant people in this country, in this world, and
the only way to prevent them from having any influences
keep them out of power. They've got to be defeated.
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And Hanseh, I'll make my plea today that every one
of you listening to my voice make a promise and
pledge in your mind that you're going to vote in
this midterm election because it's the most important one in
your lifetime. That part I can tell you for sure. Anyway,
my friend, I appreciate you eight hundred and nine four
one Sean if you want to be a part of
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Hour two Sean Hannity Show told Free it is eight
hundred and nine four one Sean, if you want to
be a part of the program. I mean, this was
a spectacular day today for both Israel and the United States,
and what they've been able to pull off today is remarkable.
Israel striking Iranian leadership. They were there to choose Ali
(00:23):
Hamani's successor. More than forty more senior Iranian officials leaders killed.
Since you know, Operation Epic Fury began on Saturday and
this was supposed to be the next generation, Israel leveled
the building where the clerics gathered to select Iran's new
supreme leader. Here to talk about the future of what
(00:46):
Iran may look like. The president thinks this could go
on four to five weeks. Ali Reza ja'far As the
day is with us is the deputy director of the
National Council of Resistance of Iran, and hue Hen Gobody
is the spokesperson for the People's mo Den Organization of Iran.
(01:08):
And welcome both of you to the program. I guess
I'll start with you Ali Raza. Let me ask you,
where do you see this going and do you see
a new leadership emerging now that the clerics get taken
out in massive numbers. This is now the second massive
attack against the leadership.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thank you so much Sean for having me on your show.
I fully agree with you that this regime must be
brought down by the people of Iran, and they're not
going to leave this scene now. In terms of the
affid the death of Harmony, the process for choosing the
next leader, I think in reality that's a much process
(01:48):
because after the death of Harmony, this is really the
end of the religious theocracies. This is the end of
the regime. No matter who they're going to put in place,
how much temporary oxygen is left for them, this era
is over. The game is over now. The question is
(02:09):
how would the change happen inside the country by the people,
And I fully agree with you at the end of
the day, it's those resistance forces on the ground we've
been confronting the revolution guards that are going to determine
the future of the country. Interestingly, just last week on Monday,
(02:29):
five days before the Comedy is Death, the forces organized
forces of the main RNI in opposition movement, the majority
how the MEK launched a massive strike against the headquarters
of the supremely their comedy inflicting heavy casualties on the
(02:50):
Revolutionary Guards and one hundred members of the MEK were
either killed or arrested, but another one hundred and fifty
managed to leave the country. And most importantly, the leader
of the movement, the president of the ANCIRA, is a woman,
missus Mariam Rajavi, who called for She announced the provisional
(03:12):
government for the transitional period to transfer sovereignty from the
repressive rulers of Iran to the elected representatives of the
people of Iran. And she and her message made it
very clear that when it comes to the armed forces
to take sides with the people of Iran, when it
comes to revolutionary Guards, because they've been heavily involved in
(03:35):
keeping this system in power, they need to lay down
their arms and surrender to the population now.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Shue Hen Gobodi, I know you put out an ex
post talking about Mariam Rajave and New Kingrid to describe
this woman as the woman led resistance of the Iranian
regime when they fear the most, and women in the
political arena can be very potent transformational figures and of
(04:03):
transformational force. He said, I know this firsthand from almost
fifty years of challenging you know, in the challenging field
of politics. Is this somebody a dark course that maybe
the world doesn't know about now that could rise to power.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yes, Sean, First of all, thanks for having me in
your show. Yes, definitely. You see, Madame Mariam Reggevi has
been fighting, as you said, for almost more than fifty
years against post the child's leadership and the Mullah's tyranney,
and she has established a very viable alternative, the National
Council of Resistance of Iran, in which sixty percent of
(04:38):
the senior officials are women. And actually she has introduced
a ten point plan for transferring sovereigny to the people
of Iran, and that plan basically calls for separational government
and religion, for gender equality, universal suffrage, and non nuclear
run mutual amicable aiming the relationship for the rest of
the world. And they telling me for thousand parliamentarians, including
(05:01):
majority members of the US House of Representatives in a
bipartisan way, have endorsed her plan. And she has also
you know, has a very strong network of activists inside Iran.
So in fact, she has been basically establishing the groundwork
for the transitional period and a blueprint or roadmap for
(05:22):
that time, so there will not be any chaos when
the Mullas are out and Iranian people take control of
the country that belongs to them first and foremost.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, we do have to worry about holdovers, don't we.
There are still probably remaining loyalists to the dead clerics
and supreme leader. That probably will be problematic moving down
the road.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Now absolutely, yes, you have a very good observation there.
But you see, when the history has shown us that
when basically it becomes quite evident that the Mullas have
reached the end of the road, and they are growing
signs to that. As you know, the rats jump the
ship and that has been the case in many many
cases in the history, and I'm sure it will happen
(06:04):
in Iran, and as Ali Reza said, we have airs
on army. It will be on the side of the people.
But the IRGC has to surrender to the people. But
to your point in specific, there has an uptick of
activities of the resistance units in the past couple of
years and particularly the last few weeks, and they take
on you know, the besiege, you know, Para military offices
(06:26):
and a lot of the regime signs. So indeed, the
Evenian people at the end of the day will overcome
the IRGC and overwhelm them, and that's the only way
that they can arrest the control of the country and
a new day in Iran. So I totally agree with
you that the key factor at the end of the
day would be the Rnian people and the organized resistance
(06:47):
who have to overwhelm IRGC, who still decides to be
on the side of the Mulas and take the country
back Ali Raza.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
They're not going to be able to do that with slingshots.
At some point, the people that you know had taken
to the streets and massive numbers that were slaughtered by
the tens of thousands. You can't win a revolution with
a sling shot. At some point they are going to
need to be armed to take out the remaining loyalists
that would exist.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I agree with you, Sean, but the problem regarding Iran
over the years has not been that the people didn't
have arms. We had several problems. Number one, there was
this policy of appeasement by the West that's constantly.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's a massive problem that they haven't been armed. That's why,
you know, when Ali Hamane, you know, sent out the
guards to quell the the people that were out there protesting.
They were mowed down. They had no way to defend themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
No, no, My point is that now this situation has
changed and the people the resistance are armed. You know,
I just mentioned about the massive You're.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Saying that the majority of the resistance is armed, and
if so, how have they been armed by the Curds.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
No, not the majority, but a good number from are
actually armed. You know, you had two hundred and fifty
of them attacking the headquarters of the Supreme Dealer. However,
the once the momentum shifts, there is plenty of arms
inny On. We had a lot of reports during the uprising,
the process last month that people were number one, disarming
(08:26):
the revolutionary guards, second attacking the places where they had
their arm depot and ammunition, taking away arms from them.
Plus adding to that, you have areas where you know,
the minorities, the nationalities have easier access to arms. You
mentioned the Kurdish region, there were you know, the border
(08:47):
regions are probably more accessible to arms. So that's that's
the life. I think once the momentum shifts, you will
see how everyone is actually looking for it, and they'll
find a way to do it. But the most important
element is that you need to have an organization on
the ground, and just the arms itself doesn't help you.
(09:10):
The good news is that that organization does exist. You know,
the main opposition movement the m K, which is the
same movement that exposed all the major nuclear sides of Irana,
and they have a history of fighting the regime over
the years and they have tremendous organizational capabilities. They were,
you know, they had an army, a powerful army, resistance
(09:33):
army known as the National Liberation Army of Iran. They
know how to fight the iatolas. The most important thing
is the once the policy is shifted in favor of
those who are standing up against the regime, that are
you know, recognizing the legitimacy of those underground to fight
the Vision Guards. You can see how much in space
(09:56):
it creates for the younger generation to join for with
the resistance. You needs to underground with the NEK to
expand the networks. Even that during the uprising in January,
we saw many evidences of that that a lot of
the young people joined the organized force on the ground
and even though the regime killed so many people, but
(10:18):
they actually expanded the recruitment and there are more people
on board with this movement than they were even two
months ago. So that's the the you know, the the
momentum shift that really changes everything.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Schuhan, I would argue that the best thing that could
probably happen is they overwhelm the remaining Revolutionary Guard forces
and get into the munitions, cash and and take out
as many of their weapons as possible. Do we have
any indication about how many people remain loyal to the
(10:54):
now dead regime that may be carrying out more murder
of innocent p pulled the way they had been in
the lead up to this conflict.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Obviously I don't have an exact figure, but I think
what you said, Sean makes a lot of sense that
at one point what you said becomes inevitable, as we
saw in the last days of people getting of the
previous deicatortion. You've been around during the shots, this is
exactly what happened. With the big difference at this time.
This is much more organized and much more focused. And
(11:24):
one indication is that as we witnessed in the fortieth
ceremonies of those who were slain and thousands of one thousands,
as you mentioned, is that this mood of rage and
people waiting for the moment to take things in their
own hands. And now this being more organized, obviously the
tactics will be decided as the situation on the ground dictates.
(11:45):
But as I mentioned, even in the past few days,
despite you know what's going on, we have seen an
uptick of activities of resistance units, you know, going after
this pasiege, which is like the local militias controlling the
areas taken over by the resistance series. So things are
moving in that direction, and I'm sure at one point
(12:07):
the power of the people who were much more organized
around any kay would overwhelm a r DECI and over
still hopes, you know, to clean on the Iotolo's rule.
But that they projective is exactly the way you said it.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Are they raiser? Where does love uh sit in this
equation if at all?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
The only connection of Alavi has to Iran, his father,
the dictator that was deposed by a genuine popular revolution.
Millions of people came to the streets over through that dictatorship.
Why because Shaw had the sixty police of Arcs that
put intellectuals in jail. Shah built the notorious event prison.
(12:51):
He dissolved all of the political parties that were legion
to him anyways and created one single party you called
Rasais and asked everyone to either join that party or
go to jail, or get your passport and leave the
country for good. He was extremely corrupt and that really
led to the revolution. So he is actually representing the
(13:13):
past of Iran. No one is interested in that. Every
time that he's interviewed and he's asked about his father,
the rule of his father and grandfather, he says that, basically,
that's a different narrative. I'm not going to talk about
the past. I'm always about the future. He refuses to
reject the dictatorship of the show. Second, we talk about
(13:37):
the national minorities in Iran. You know about at least
forty percent of the Irnian population or the Kourgs, the Valuchis,
the Arabs, the azari Is, the lawyers and others. All
of them were We haven'tly opposed to the path Avi
dynasty that badly suppressed them. You know, there is a
Residents show Muhammad Zaphandabi as bad as you know, the
(13:59):
College theocracy and they're all opposed to it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Interesting, j Well, I want to see how this plays out.
I mean, our hope is that there'll be a democratic Republican,
a duly elected government, and people will be able to
hear from various factions and hopefully choose a better path
for their future. But that's going to have to happen
from within. That's not going to be America that does it.
That's not going to be any country in the region
(14:23):
that does it. It's going to be up to the
Iranian people what kind of future they want, that's for sure.
And obviously there'll be some varying political factions that will
be fighting for the hearts and minds of the people
of Iran. I hope they choose wisely. This may be
their only opportunity. Thank you both, appreciate it. Thank you
(14:45):
Ali Rasa, Thank you Shuhn. We appreciate you both being
one of us. Quick break right back, we'll continue on
the other side. It was fascinating to get an inside
glimpse into the negotiations, especially after Midnight Hammer and fourteen
bunker buster bombs by Donald Trump taken out and obliterating
Iran's nuclear sites. This after Israel, you know, wiped out
(15:08):
their their nuclear scientists, wiped out their air defense systems,
their ballistic missile systems. I mean, just absolutely decimated the country,
both Israel and the US. In that first effort maneuvers,
you know, they controlled the entire sky. This goes back
to last June, and you know, and then the you
(15:29):
would think the Iranians might have learned that they're they're
just outmatched. They learned nothing. And here's Steve Whitkoff, Middle
East envoy, describing in detail him and Jared Kushner meeting
with the Iranians and saying, you can't have nuclear weapons.
Donald Trump has been very clear, but they just cling
to this notion. We're clinging to the notion that they could.
(15:52):
Well how did that end up for them? Listen, the
world's number one state sponsor of terror is getting dismantled
right before a very high is history in the making.
This is the very same regime that tried to assassinate
President Trump, not once, but twice. They have now lost
their supreme leader Ali Kameni and almost everyone else in
(16:12):
his inner circle forty total. Trump told ABC quote, I
got him before he got me. They tried twice. I
got him first here with more on what led up
to this operation Epic Fury. Our special envoy to the
Middle East front of the program, Steve Wikoff, is with us.
All Right, you're in the room with these negotiators, and
I know you you are a deal maker. The President
(16:35):
wanted a deal. You odd a lot of latitude in
that room. Bring us inside that room.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
First of all, Sean, thanks, good night, good evening, and
thanks for having me. So just to give you a
little bit of a taste for how these three days
of negotiations went. Three separate times, Jared and I opened
up with the Iranian negotiators telling us they had the
inalienable right to enrich all their nuclear fuel that they possessed.
(17:04):
That's how they opened up. We of course responded that
the President feels we have the inalienable right to stop
you dead year tracks. They then went on to say
that beyond the inalienable right to enrich, that that was
going to be their starting point, and Jared and I
(17:27):
just sort of looked at ourselves flum mixed, and said, well,
we're really in for it now.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well let me get a little in the wheeze if
we can. My understanding was you got to a point
where you were discussing enriched uranium at much very low
levels for civilian purposes, although I don't think they really
need it, because they have all the energy they'd ever want.
But did that come up? Was that offer made to them?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
We discussed with them ten years of no enrichment whatsoever,
and we would pay for the fuel. And it was
flatly rejected. And the presidents says for you that to
have a good faith negotiation, pardon me.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
You're saying that we would give it to them, and
they rejected it.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
They actually had that, and they rejected that, which told
us at that very moment that they had no notion
of doing anything other than retaining enrichment for the purpose
of weaponizing.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You made a statement last week and when I heard it,
and I've known you for a long time and you
are a friend, and when you made the statement that
in fact, they may be a week away from possibly
having capability at that moment, I interpreted that to mean
it's go time, It's over. Was I wrong? Was that
(18:49):
the moment that it was over?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Well, I don't know if that exact moment it was over,
but I know this. They have ten thousand roughly kilograms
of fissionable material that's broken up into roughly four hundred
and sixty kilograms of sixty percent enriched uranium, another thousand
kilograms of twenty percent enriched uranium, and the balance is
(19:11):
at three point sixty seven. They manufacture their own centrifuges
to enrich this material, so there's almost no stopping them.
They have an endless supply of it. The sixty percent
materials SEAN can be brought to ninety percent that's weapon grade,
weapons grade in roughly one week, maybe ten days at
(19:33):
the outside. The twenty percent can be brought to weapons
grade inside of three to four weeks. And let me
say this, because I forgot this small little detail. In
that first meeting, both the Iranian negotiators said to us directly,
with no shame, that they controlled four hundred and sixty
(19:56):
kilograms of sixty percent and they're aware that that could
make eleven nuclear bombs. And that was the beginning of
the negotiating stance. So they were proud of it. They
were proud that they had evaded all sorts of oversight
protocols to get to a place where they could deliver
eleven nuclear bombs.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
What I wouldn't do to be a fly on the
wall in that room, because Steve, you're a negotiator. You've
run the most successful businesses, built some of the most
beautiful golf courses. It defies all logic and reason for
them to sit there as if Midnight hammered never happened
and dictate to you that the one thing that President
(20:41):
Trump insisted on, they can't get a nuclear weapon. They're
going to go forward anyway. How stupid are they were?
They they're done, They're gone.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Now, well, well it was pretty silly, but they thought
they could strong arm us. You know, President Trump sent
me and Jared there to really determine on his behalf
whether they were serious about doing a deal that that
addressed his objectives, which are elimination of their of their
(21:09):
missile program, elimination of their advocacy and support for proxies
which is destabilizing the entire Middle East, elimination of their
navy so we can have freedom of the seas and
not be threatened with the shutdown of the Gulf of Hormus.
And finally, no nuclear enrichment that can get them to
(21:31):
weapons grade, which means no nuclear bomb. And we went
in there and tried to make a fair deal with them,
and it was it was It was very very clear
that it was that it was going to be impossible,
probably by the end of the second meeting, but we
then went back for the third meeting just to give
it the last college try, and of course they thought
(21:51):
they wanted us to report positivity. It was it was
not positive that meeting.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Oh, Steve Woodcoff, I know you've been plying all over
the globe, and you know at on your own dime.
I think people do need to know that if you
don't mind me telling people serving your country, serving the president,
doing your best to bring peace to the world. They
brought this action on themselves. You gave them every opportunity
to take the exit ramp off. They decided not to.
(22:21):
But we really appreciate you sharing all that with us.
Steve Witcoff, Middle East m Boy, Thank you, sir. That
was Steve Whitcoff, the Middle East don Boy describing the private,
behind the scenes meetings, telling the Iranians, under no circumstances
can they have nuclear weapons and they just flat out refused.
This is after Operation Midnight Hammer, so they've they brought
(22:43):
all of this on themselves. We'll get to your calls.
Coming up next eight hundred nine poot one. Shawn is
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busy phones. Philip is in Texas, Philip, God bless Texas.
How are you?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
So?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
We are glad you called?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Oh, thank you very much, Sean big fan.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
What's going on? I appreciate it. What's happening?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Oh? Also, I've got a couple of SIGs myself, so
I agree with you there. It's kind of funny. I
actually uh and live in Dallas, but in usin right
now for to hear my father. But was at the
on Saturday, the the Iranian protests against America and the Gallery.
(23:27):
I drove by it. Unbelievable, people holding signs, screaming, yelling,
down with America, down with Israel, down with Ice. Most
almost all the women were in tight beads covered up,
just you know, screaming and yelling. Then I went I
went to Sundays stand with Iran's rally. I'm Jewish and
(23:52):
there were Jewish people. There was the Christians, Catholics standing
with Israel, staying with Iran. They had people screaming, thank
you Donald Trump, thank you Bb you know, and you're
sitting there looking at the overall people. I had a
woman come up to me and say, you know what,
for the first time, I don't have to say I'm Persian.
(24:13):
I can say I'm a Ranient. And and the thing
is for me was it was so funny. It was
that you could see the difference. One was about death
and destruction and misery and wanting to keep the Islamic
regime and the you know, the Islamic ideology going. And
then one was about freedom and love and taking care
(24:34):
of the next step and prosperity. I mean, it was unbelievable.
And I told it, you know, I was said, I
have right now, my oldest nephew and his wife and
my youngest niece are actually in Jerusalem. They can't get out.
My sister's losing her mind.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I can only say that the disparity that you see,
but we will always have this disagreement. The radical left
in this country, you know now they you know, you
have Hakeem Jeffery suggesting that we're going to lose this
conflict in Iran when all the evidence is to the contrary.
(25:16):
You don't take anything for granted. You've got to finish
the job. Then it's going to be in the hands
of the Iranian people. They will choose their destiny. This
is a party now that is against voter id and
voter integrity.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
This is a.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Party that wants open borders and sanctuary cities and states
and amnesty. This is a party that wants defund dismantle
of police departments and no bail laws. This is a
party that wants to defund the Department of Homeland Security,
which they're doing now. This is a party that is
against energy independence. This is a party that voted for
(25:55):
the largest tax increase in history rather than voting for
the largest tax cut in history. So the competing visions
that exist in this country exist around the world, and
there are freedom loving people everywhere. I don't have any
patients for people that don't understand, or refuse to understand,
(26:16):
or have a political agenda, you know, or influencers likely
being paid through some show company associated with some agenda
that they are taking the most radical, extreme positions and
they make no sense at all whatsoever. They don't understand
(26:36):
or they don't want to understand, or they have an agenda.
I'm not sure which it is, and I don't really care.
But if you don't understand that the Iranians never being
able to acquire nuclear weapons is a smart thing, then
I have nothing to talk to you about, because I
think you're dumb. I think you're an idiot. I think
(26:56):
you're an imbecile. I think you are nai And I
think that either you're being motivated by some agenda or
you just choose to live in ignorance. It's sort of
like the people in Iran and being slaughtered. Nobody protested
on a college campus. You didn't hear any condemnation from
the left, but they certainly condemned Israel even though forty
(27:19):
the equivalent of forty thousand Israelis were killed. If they
had the same population size as America on October seventh,
if forty thousand Americans died here in the day, we
would obliterate any country that did that to us. Rightly, so,
and oh, they're committing genocide and college campuses, and you
(27:39):
know the rise of anti Semitism around the world and
in the punditry class, and I'm just sick and tired
of all of it. I think there are a lot
of ignorant people in this country, in this world, and
the only way to prevent them from having any influences
keep them out of power. They've got to be defeated.
(27:59):
And Hanseh, I'll make my plea today that every one
of you listening to my voice make a promise and
pledge in your mind that you're going to vote in
this midterm election because it's the most important one in
your lifetime. That part I can tell you for sure. Anyway,
my friend, I appreciate you eight hundred and nine four
one Sean if you want to be a part of
(28:22):
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