April 1, 2026 • 32 mins
In this hour of The Sean Hannity Show, Sean Hannity sits down with Bill O’Reilly for a blunt conversation about Iran, NATO, and what they argue is a rapidly changing world order. Sean lays out why the Trump administration’s push to neutralize Iran’s nuclear ambitions and missile capability was, in his view, both necessary and overdue, while O’Reilly weighs the broader geopolitical fallout. Together, they examine whether Europe’s lack of cooperation has exposed NATO as a one-way alliance and what that could mean for America, Russia, and the future of global security. Sean also revisits his interview with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, reinforcing the case that Iran’s uranium enrichment and expanding missile range created a threat too dangerous to ignore. The hour is a forceful look at deterrence, leadership, and the belief that weakness abroad always carries a cost at home.
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Speaker 3 (02:06):
You having me?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I have been saying that this conflict in Iran is
going to come to a swift end. And I come
to this conclusion bill because for a couple of reasons. One,
I know Donald Trump. Two I listened to what he
has to say. Three I look at what they've been
able to accomplish. I listened. I had Secretary of State
Mark or Rubio on last night. We went into great detail.
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And where we are today is we really have two
remaining issues that have to be dealt with. I'm not
saying any of them are simple. I think all military
efforts are complicated. I think they're all dangerous. We always
pray for our troops. But I think it was a necessity.
And what precipitated the President going in is something you
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and I discussed last week, and that is the sixty
percent enriched uranium that could be that could be further
enriched to ninety percent and seven to twelve days. And
the fact that they bragged that they have fourigner in
sixty kilograms, enough for eleven nuclear weapons. And we learned
in this conflict that their ballistic missile range is far
longer than the world had estimated, which means that their
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ballistic missiles currently without any improvement, could reach Paris and London.
That would be an existential threat to the entire world.
So the President has said today that they want to
cease fire. Apparently these negotiations are going well. We will
either have in the next two weeks a negotiated settlement
or the President will have to remove the sixty percent
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enriched uranium by force, and that's going to be up
to the Iranians. The second part of it is the
straight of hormones, which we'll get to separately. What say you,
mister O'Reilly sir?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well, if you know President Trump, he doesn't give major addresses.
If he's got bad news to number one, she figure
he's got something on his mind tonight that's going to
be positive for his administration in the country. We don't
know what that is yet. It might be just as
great as hits, I don't know. But it's not going
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to be a negative. It's not going to be like, oh,
this is harder and we thought it was going to be,
or we're not doing well in this area. Not going
to be that.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So, by the way, by the way, Bill, by any
objective measure, can any intelligent person make that point if
we look at past military efforts and conflicts that we
have had, and look look at for example, World War
two slamming the beaches of Normandy D Day and how
difficult that mission was at that time, and how many
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American lives were lost that day, and every loss of
life is a casualty. That's our national treasure. However, to
wipe out their navy and their but ballistic missiles and
their drone system most of it, not all of it.
We can't find every bit of it. But to have
such a successful intelligence military effort with with limited casualties
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like this is unprecedented.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You would agree with that, I would agree with it,
but with a caveat. So hearts and minds has to
be part of any war equation. And there are a
lot of people who don't want to believe that this
is a successful operation. They don't want to believe it.
People believe what they want to believe. And these people,
and you saw them on the King's thing over the weekend,
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they don't want to believe it, so they're not going
to believe it. And you can present them with all
kinds of evidence, but you see it.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You're a historian. There's never been any level of military
success like this in the history of warfare, with as
few casualties.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yes, After I interviewed Lindsey Graham, and you know, I
gave him my usual hard time to back up what
he was saying. I was convinced that the Mullas had
the capacity to use nuclear weapons in a very short
period of time. Now I didn't want to believe that.
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That's my journalistic training. I went over it for an hour,
which Senator Graham. But I also understand that Putin's the
big winner here, not the United States, because NATO is finished,
finished as an alliance. And it's a very simple equation.
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You're the president and all you want from the NATO
European countries is some cooperation in helping the United States
and Israel dismantle the nukes. That's all you're asking for.
And it's easy. We're doing all the heavy lift here.
All they need to do is let us land or
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maybe give us some intel, or maybe throw in on
movies a little bit. And they won't do it. You
don't have an alliance. So Putin's sitting back there going
this is great. I love this.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
We let mean, let me tell you where I think
you're wrong in your analysis. You're right about Putin is
loving it. I will. I will concede that point. I
think you're dead on accurate. I think you're also right
in your observation that NATO has finished, and we spend
nearly a trillion dollars a year, we pay sixty we
pay two thirds of the bill for NATO anyway, and
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we have the continent of Europe and individual countries. They
have been in a precipitous decline now going on for
a couple of decades. They've neglected defense, They've embraced socialism,
climate alarmism, and they have also allowed unfettered illegal immigration
without assimilation, resulting in sharia courts and no go zones. Okay,
so the real loser is NATO, not the United States bill.
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Because we don't need NATO. We will find bases to
land our planes moving forward at a far lower cost
point than we're currently paying. We're not going to lose
at all. The biggest loser in that battle is Europe.
They will be the big They have now totally put
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the final nail in their coffin. As far as I'm concerned, here's.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Why I disagree with you. So I expect Putin to
ramp up in Ukraine, and that's not good for the
United States or Europe. It's not good for any world.
And Putin is now embold in, so Hello Latvia, a
low Baltic states, and we're gonna have to pay a
lot of money, taxpayer money to blunt Putin, and we're
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not going to have the allies that we used to have.
And the reason this is all happening in Europe is
because of socialism. And Spain is the best example. Spain
is now a socialist country. Admire the United States, they
don't even like us. I'll never go to Spain again, Hannity.
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I don't know whether you've ever been beautiful country.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I haven't been to Spain, but I've been to France
and I've been to Great Britain, and those countries are gone.
Europe as a continent is gone. Bill, It's over. I
don't think they can recover. I do not believe they
have so neglected defense, they have so embraced their radicalism,
their unfettered immigration. Do you ever think it of nearly
one hundred career courts in Great Britain, Bill, O'Reilly, No,
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you did not.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And that's the reason they're not cooperating, because they fear
they being the leadership of these individual countries. They fear
terrorism and the strength of the Muslim humunity, which is considerable,
and that's why they're not helping out, because all you
got to do is say, listen. If you have a
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nuclear threat at your doorstep, which they certainly do, and
you don't care about that, then either you're emotionally disturbed
or there's something else. And there's something else is they
don't want their soccer games blown up. They are operating
out a fear. But the United States needs allies, and
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Japan is now proving that in vexing China. Japan's really
stepped up there and it helps us to have them,
but we're not going to have them for at least
the next two and a half years. Let me and
I know you.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Spoke to Lindsey Graham, and Lindsey Graham is looking at
the other side of this conflict and what he is
seeing is normalization, recognition. We'll call it an expansion, if
you will, of the Abraham Accords, and that would mean
that hopefully piece in the Middle East for many, many
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decades to come. And I hope that's the net result
of that. With the bill, and I was on that
golf trip with the President when he went to Riod
in Saudi Arabia and Cutter and he went to the UAE.
I was there and I learned a lot and the
and every one of these countries wants a great relationship
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with the United States. So there will be new alliances.
And I think Western civilization, which was saved by Winston Churchill, boy,
I will tell you you talk about Neville, Chamberlain, Starmar. Uh,
it is breathtaking to me that that clearly Europe has
forgotten the lessons of history, not even one hundred years ago.
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And they they were willing to have a nuclear armed Iran.
And meanwhile we learned in this conflict that they have
ballistic missile range capable of hitting Paris and capable of
hitting London. And they won't even send a ship to help,
you know, keep open the free flow of oil at
market prices in the straight of Horne moves. How insane
is that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It's absolutely stunning, It's absolutely stunning.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's over, but it's not going to impact us. You know,
we're gonna have bill, We'll we're gonna have another trillion
dollars to spend on national defense here and one day
they will be. They will be kissing our ass, begging
us to help them for the very conflicts that could
very likely arise that you had previously mentioned. Viz A
VI Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Putin's going to cause trouble, There's no doubt about it.
And these cowardly Europeans can't stand up to them. They're
under power to do it and be at this point
in history, they probably let Putin march into Moldova and
take it. They probably how would they got bill?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
How will they stop them?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, I mean they there is arm capabity, they.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Don't have the will, they don't have the military might,
they don't have the ability to stop them. They would cower.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
And a lot of this is the European media, which
is absolutely it's actually worse than the American media. If
you can imagine that, A gamizing the United States every night, BBC,
Agent France, all of that just demonized, demonized, demonized. And
the population of Europe, you know, they're dependent on the government.
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It's a basically welfare situation. Gimme, gimme, gimme. I don't
care what really happens in the Gulf. Well, when you're
heating bills triple, which they will if this continues. You're
gonna care. But this is very very It is stunning
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that Great Britain because that's the real bulwark Tony Blair
or Prime Minister. This would not be happening. Which term
is weak and he's afraid. And you can't conduct foreign
policy if you're weak and a frame.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I can tell you the net the net result of
all of this is there's going to be a reconfiguration
of the world order, and Europe now is floundering at
I don't think Europe can recover. I don't think Europe
would ever take the necessary steps to insist either on
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assimilation or expelling people that have no interest in assimilating
to their their mores and their values in their individual countries.
I see No go zones continuing. People deny that they're
they're real. I've had reporters on Fox in those No
go zones and they're very real. So I'm not sure
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if there's a path to recovery for them, especially because
of the political reality and the fear that they have
among now their own population. I think I think it's over.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
The final equation to the story is all the weakness
in Europe and in the United States. The Trump patriot
here helps un because they think that they can hold
out because of all the pressure on President Trump, and
they'll get a better deal, and that helps the Mullas.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
But tonight, Bill, the Mullas are dead. I don't know
what mullas you're talking about. The Mullas are. We're now
at the fourth and fifthier of remaining leadership. So I
will tell you this, and you are correct, and Lindsey
Graham rightly convinced you. But I will tell you who
convinced me. It was Steve Whitkoff, and it was Secretary
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of State Rubio who was on my show last night.
It was this was a clear and present danger, and
that's why the President acted. We'll never be able to
calculate how many lives likely were saved, because if they
got these nuclear weapons with their increased ballistic missile range
and capability, this could have been a modern day holocaust,
and Donald Trump prevented that from happen happening, so we'll
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never know how many people's lives may and likely have
been saved. All right, mister O'Reilly, we just st up
on the clock, my brother. We appreciate you being here
all things Bill O'Reilly or Billoreilly dot com. Sir, I
know this is the highlight of your week. Everything's downhill
from here. Have a great Easter with you and your family.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Okay, sir, thanks for having me, You too.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
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We'll continue on the other side.
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Speaker 2 (17:38):
If for me, I've been two and let me be
very clear, I don't care about the radical no Kings,
protest lunatic left in this country. There's nothing Donald Trump
will ever say or do that they're gonna like or support.
And Donald Trump has not lied to us.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
This is not a rat this is not Afghanistan. He's
never given up as principle of no forever war. However,
and their people said this is going to be a
forever war. It's not going to be a forever war.
There are two people that have convinced me, and two
interviews that I think have been critical in terms of
why now, why are we there? One was with the
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Middle East don Voy Steve Whitkoff, and he was the
one that told us in great detail, and we've played
it on this radio program more than once, but we
described in detail how the Uranians believe that it is
then their inalienable right to have nuclear weapons. They would
not give up on that even after Midnight Hammer, and
they have four uner and sixty kilograms of sixty percent
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enriched uranium that would be enough for eleven nuclear bombs.
The other person that has laid out the case as
well as anybody, as our Secretary of State, Marco Rubio,
and I had this interview with him yesterday. Let's listen
joining us is the Secretary of State himself. Marco Rubio
is with us. Secretary, thank you for taking the time.
I know you're busy and you got a lot on
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your plate. Can we start with the question for those
Americans that may not understand why now? I want to
go through this in great specificity and detail about the necessity.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Of this now.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
When the Middle East don boy Steve Whitkoff came on
this program and explain that the Iranians would not negotiate
the issue of giving up their nuclear weapons program. Bragged
about four hundred and sixty kilograms of sixty percent of
rich uranium that could be turned into weapons grade ninety.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Percent in seven to twelve days.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
At that point in time, it seemed inevitable to me
they were going to in spite of midnight Hammer. They
were going to cling to that quote inalienable writers they
called it was that the tipping point.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Well, it was one of the tipping points.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I mean, part of the tipping point is the fact
that Aron's been doing this for forty seven years. We
know what this regime is all about. I always say,
a rod, let me be. I'm not talking about the
people of Iran. The people of Iran don't even like
this government or this regime. This is a regime that
is led by radical Shiah clerics, by people who believe
that it is their calling. I know this sounds fantastical,
but it's absolutely true. This is a regime led by
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people who believe that it is their calling and their
purpose in life to usher in the end of the world.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
These people want nuclear weapons.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Why do we know that, because they are assembling all
the things you need for nuclear weapons. They're assembling long
range rockets that can eventually reach the United States, can
already range Europe. We saw them demonstrate two of them
last week, despite denying that they had them. They enriched
uranium to sixty percent, as you pointed out a moment ago,
from sixty to ninety percent, which you need for a bomb,
takes twelve to fourteen days. They bragged about still having that.
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They demand the right to enrich, which is how you
get from sixty to ninety percent. They're the leading sponsor
of terrorism, not in the region, in the world. They
can never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, which
is what President Trump made very clear from the very
first day of his presidency, from in fact, the very
first day of his candidacy, when he came down that
escalator in twenty fifteen, he talked about this. He's actually
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been talking about the threat of Iran before he was
even a political candidate, and as president, he was not
going to allow Iran to pose a threat to Americans
now or future generations of Americans. So we had to
act with very clear purpose. We are going to destroy
their air force. We have largely done that. We were
going to destroy their navy, which we have largely achieved.
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That we were going to destroy a significant percentage of
their missile launchers.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
We are well on our way to achieving that.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
And we were going to wipe out their defense industrial base,
meaning the factories that make.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
The drones and the missiles. We are on our way
to doing that.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Those were our four objectives, because those are the four
things they were going to hide behind to then develop
a nuclear weapon and threaten the world that they tried
to do anything about it, that was not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Under President Trump, we are well on our way.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
We are on or ahead of schedule on each of
those four objectives.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
And we can see the finish line. It's not today,
it's not tomorrow, but it is coming.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
We are going to get to the point where our
military will have achieved all of its objectives in this mission,
and they're doing so with extraordinary efficiency, something that I
think will go down in history is one of the
best run tactical military.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Operations in modern times.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
We'll get back to that timeline in a second, because
both you and the President have said weeks, it's not
going to be months. One thing I think we've learned
and if you can expand on this, because if you
have nuclear capability, you also need the delivery system.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Prior to Epic Fury, you felt.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And you were arguing that and the world has always
underestimated Iran's abilities, whether the nuclear capability or ballistic missile capability,
and you felt it was too dangerous a threat not
to address in this operation ballistic missiles and the nuclear
threat at the same time. So now we've discovered that
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they have the ability and the range that is much
further than we had thought going into this.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Apparently they now have.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
The capability and the range that their missiles could reach
Paris London.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Is that true? That's correct in fact, but they denied it.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Remember anytime you hear Iran, you know, you had a
image a moment ago. This guy a Rochi, their foreign minister.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
This guy is a liar. This guy was on television
like a.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Week ago, two weeks ago, denying that Iran had any
missiles that could go beyond a certain limitation.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And then they fired two of them.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Now we don't think that many of them, but they
are soon to have many of them. They we've destroyed
and are destroying the factories to make those things.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Those things.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
The ones they launched the other day could reach well
into Europe, and actually they had fired it on Diego Garcia.
One of them failed, one of them was shot down,
but they fired him at Diego Garcia, which is really
far away. So they were moving towards eventually he having
a missile that could reach.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
The continental United States. That's what they were aiming to do.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
They were aiming to become the next North Korea, except
not in North Korea run by you know, a regime
that you know is troublesome and hard to.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Understand, but in Iran run by radical.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Sheiah clerics, with intercontinental missiles that could reach the mainland
of the United States.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Eventually, that's what they were going towards. That's what they
would have ultimately achieved.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Had the president, had President Trump not taken these steps
that he's taken.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Mister Secretary, do you believe the North Koreans? They have
been numerous reports that they have been assisting Iran with
both their ballistic missile program and their nuclear program.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Why can't comment on that other than to say that
there's nothing any government is doing or any country in
the world is doing now to help Iran that is
in any way impeding our mission. Do they have countries
that have helped them in the past, Yes, they have,
I mean, and by the way, Iran also helps other
countries by providing drones and rockets and things of that
nature that they've developed themselves. But understand this, Iran, this
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is a country that has trouble coming up with drinking water.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
This is a country whose.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Economy is in shambles, is going to be even worse
off after this operation. This is a country whose people
have been protesting in the streets because not just the
lack of freedom, but the lack of economic opportunity. Because
they've taken all of their money, all the money they have,
the little money they have because of sanctions, and they've
invested all of it in sponsoring terrorism and building long
range missiles, increasing the range of their missiles every year,
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and building thousands of them, and building these one way,
the tack drones that they're using against their neighbors. This
is what they've put their money towards, and this is
what they were going to continue to do. They refuse
to negotiate on missiles, they refuse to even negotiate on terrorism,
and they refuse to negotiate down on enrichment.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
They demand the right to enrich.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
So for all these people out there talking about how
this could have been avoided, they were given every opportunity
in multiple talks, and all they did is either reject
or delay. And that's not going to happen under President Trump.
He's not going to allow Iran to become a nuclear
power on his watch and threaten America now or in
the future.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Mister Secretary, I guess the ideal situation would be a
negotiated settlement. The President gave and had said publicly over
and over again before Midnight or and before Operation Epic Fury,
and he's saying to the people that the fourth Fifthier,
whatever level of leadership remains, he's saying to them now
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he would prefer a negotiated settlement. Now, apparently they have
some power because they promised the President that they would
allow twenty specific tankers through the Straight or hor Mooz.
And my understanding is those tankers made it through, so
they must have some.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Degree of power.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
The difference here is will the fourth fifthier level of leadership,
will they be smarter than Tier one, two, and three,
and will they make the deal or will they be
facing you know, death themselves in the near future.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Well, first of all, we can't ignore that for forty
seven years they've avoided and rejected any effort to negotiate.
That doesn't mean we're going to stop trying. The President
of the President Trump always always would rather have negotiations
than war, and he will always. We gave him sixty
days early last year, we gave him additional time to
negotiate after Midnight Hammer again earlier this year. But each
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and every time those things have proved fruitless.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
But we're going to keep trying.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
There are messages being exchanged, there are talks going on,
There is the potential for direct meeting at some point.
We're always going to be open for that, but we're
not going to be We're not.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
What President Trump is not going to allow is he's
not going.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
To allow fake negotiations to be used as a delay
tactic to buy more time to buy themselves space. That's
what he's not going to allow. You know, the buy
An administration spent four years, four years trying to resurrect
the Obama nuclear deal with Iran. They spent four years
trying to talk to the Iranians, and they strung them
along for four years, and I think they thought they
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could string this administration along for four years. But they're
not going to string along President Trump. He's not going
to fall for their games. He hasn't fallen for their games.
So we'll always be prepared to talk, but we're not
going to allow that or the failure of talks to
impede our ability to defend this country and to protect
this country from a real threat.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
It's a threat to the world. It's not just a
threat to America.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
The difference is President Trump is the only leader in
the world with both the capability and frankly, the guts
to do something about it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Let me ask you about NATO.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You said that our NATO allies have been disappointing, specifically,
I know you're talking about Spain, Great Britain, France, even
Italy now and that after all of this is done,
we will re examine this relationship, and especially when it
comes to we pay two thirds of the freight when
it comes to NATO defense. And if it's just quote
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about us defending Europe, you said, at this point, how
do we call that? And we can't have our landing
rights in European nations? Our allies at a time when
we need them. What good is that alliance? And is
the NATO alliance at risk?
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Sean I've been one of the strongest defenders of NATO
during my time as a United States Senator because I
found great value in it, and it wasn't just about
defending Europe. I said, it also allowed us that military
bases in Europe that allowed us to project power into
different parts of the world when our national security was threatened.
If now we have reached a point where the NATO
alliance means that we can't use those bases, that in fact,
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that we can no longer use those bases to defend
America's interests, then NATO is a one way street. The
NATO is simply about us having troops in Europe to
defend Europe, but when.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We need their help, not their help.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
We're not asking them to conduct their strikes when we
need them to allow us to use their military basis.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Their answer is no. Then why are we in NATO.
You have to ask that question.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Why do we have billions and billions of dollars, hundreds
of billions of dollars over the years, trillions of dollars,
and all these American forces stationed in the region. If
we can only use we can in our time of need,
We're not going to be allowed.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
To use those bases. So I think there's no doubt.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Unfortunately, after this conflict is concluded, we are going to
have to re examine that relationship. We're going to have
to re examine the value of NATO and that alliance
for our country. Ultimately, that's a decision for the President
to make, and you'll have to make it. We're going
to finish the job here. As I said, we're very
very close to achieving our objectives on all of these
things that I've outlined. But I do think unfortunately we
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are going to have to re examine and whether or
not this alliance that has served this country well for
a while is still serving that purpose or has it
now become a one way street where America is simply
in a position to defend Europe, but when we need
the help of our allies, they're going to deny US
basing rights and they're going.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
To deny us overflight.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
I think these are very legitimate questions that we need
to be asking, and this are going to have to
be very carefully examined after this conflict.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Is over, and you stand by weeks not months away
from this conflict coming to an answer.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
Yes, yeah, I think we're very close to achieving our objectives.
I don't want to put a timeline on it, but
we can see the finish line. The finish line meaning
we will have achieved all of the objectives of the
President outlined, and those are important because if we achieve
those objectives, we will make it nearly impossible for Iran
to have a nuclear weapon anytime in the near future,
and the world will be a safer place and our
country will be safer, which is the number one job
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the President has now.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I don't care if you're a radical eyed Democrat. I
don't care if you're want of the No King's lunatics.
I don't care if you're one of these isolation is
with a big mouth that don't know what the hell
you're talking about. If we had listened to you, and
not to the likes of President Trump and Steve Whitcoff
and Marco Rubio and others, this would have been a
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threat that we would have handed off to our children
and grandchildren. I have no desire to debate people on
the issue. It just as a fact and this is
now going to come to a swift end, and the
world will be a safer place. That is my strong belief.
And God speed to our great troops and our great military.
Big break. Right back, we'll continue.
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Speaker 3 (02:06):
You having me?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I have been saying that this conflict in Iran is
going to come to a swift end. And I come
to this conclusion bill because for a couple of reasons. One,
I know Donald Trump. Two I listened to what he
has to say. Three I look at what they've been
able to accomplish. I listened. I had Secretary of State
Mark or Rubio on last night. We went into great detail.
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And where we are today is we really have two
remaining issues that have to be dealt with. I'm not
saying any of them are simple. I think all military
efforts are complicated. I think they're all dangerous. We always
pray for our troops. But I think it was a necessity.
And what precipitated the President going in is something you
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and I discussed last week, and that is the sixty
percent enriched uranium that could be that could be further
enriched to ninety percent and seven to twelve days. And
the fact that they bragged that they have fourigner in
sixty kilograms, enough for eleven nuclear weapons. And we learned
in this conflict that their ballistic missile range is far
longer than the world had estimated, which means that their
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ballistic missiles currently without any improvement, could reach Paris and London.
That would be an existential threat to the entire world.
So the President has said today that they want to
cease fire. Apparently these negotiations are going well. We will
either have in the next two weeks a negotiated settlement
or the President will have to remove the sixty percent
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enriched uranium by force, and that's going to be up
to the Iranians. The second part of it is the
straight of hormones, which we'll get to separately. What say you,
mister O'Reilly sir?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well, if you know President Trump, he doesn't give major addresses.
If he's got bad news to number one, she figure
he's got something on his mind tonight that's going to
be positive for his administration in the country. We don't
know what that is yet. It might be just as
great as hits, I don't know. But it's not going
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to be a negative. It's not going to be like, oh,
this is harder and we thought it was going to be,
or we're not doing well in this area. Not going
to be that.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So, by the way, by the way, Bill, by any
objective measure, can any intelligent person make that point if
we look at past military efforts and conflicts that we
have had, and look look at for example, World War
two slamming the beaches of Normandy D Day and how
difficult that mission was at that time, and how many
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American lives were lost that day, and every loss of
life is a casualty. That's our national treasure. However, to
wipe out their navy and their but ballistic missiles and
their drone system most of it, not all of it.
We can't find every bit of it. But to have
such a successful intelligence military effort with with limited casualties
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like this is unprecedented.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You would agree with that, I would agree with it,
but with a caveat. So hearts and minds has to
be part of any war equation. And there are a
lot of people who don't want to believe that this
is a successful operation. They don't want to believe it.
People believe what they want to believe. And these people,
and you saw them on the King's thing over the weekend,
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they don't want to believe it, so they're not going
to believe it. And you can present them with all
kinds of evidence, but you see it.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You're a historian. There's never been any level of military
success like this in the history of warfare, with as
few casualties.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yes, After I interviewed Lindsey Graham, and you know, I
gave him my usual hard time to back up what
he was saying. I was convinced that the Mullas had
the capacity to use nuclear weapons in a very short
period of time. Now I didn't want to believe that.
(06:13):
That's my journalistic training. I went over it for an hour,
which Senator Graham. But I also understand that Putin's the
big winner here, not the United States, because NATO is finished,
finished as an alliance. And it's a very simple equation.
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You're the president and all you want from the NATO
European countries is some cooperation in helping the United States
and Israel dismantle the nukes. That's all you're asking for.
And it's easy. We're doing all the heavy lift here.
All they need to do is let us land or
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maybe give us some intel, or maybe throw in on
movies a little bit. And they won't do it. You
don't have an alliance. So Putin's sitting back there going
this is great. I love this.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
We let mean, let me tell you where I think
you're wrong in your analysis. You're right about Putin is
loving it. I will. I will concede that point. I
think you're dead on accurate. I think you're also right
in your observation that NATO has finished, and we spend
nearly a trillion dollars a year, we pay sixty we
pay two thirds of the bill for NATO anyway, and
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we have the continent of Europe and individual countries. They
have been in a precipitous decline now going on for
a couple of decades. They've neglected defense, They've embraced socialism,
climate alarmism, and they have also allowed unfettered illegal immigration
without assimilation, resulting in sharia courts and no go zones. Okay,
so the real loser is NATO, not the United States bill.
(07:57):
Because we don't need NATO. We will find bases to
land our planes moving forward at a far lower cost
point than we're currently paying. We're not going to lose
at all. The biggest loser in that battle is Europe.
They will be the big They have now totally put
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the final nail in their coffin. As far as I'm concerned, here's.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Why I disagree with you. So I expect Putin to
ramp up in Ukraine, and that's not good for the
United States or Europe. It's not good for any world.
And Putin is now embold in, so Hello Latvia, a
low Baltic states, and we're gonna have to pay a
lot of money, taxpayer money to blunt Putin, and we're
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not going to have the allies that we used to have.
And the reason this is all happening in Europe is
because of socialism. And Spain is the best example. Spain
is now a socialist country. Admire the United States, they
don't even like us. I'll never go to Spain again, Hannity.
(09:05):
I don't know whether you've ever been beautiful country.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I haven't been to Spain, but I've been to France
and I've been to Great Britain, and those countries are gone.
Europe as a continent is gone. Bill, It's over. I
don't think they can recover. I do not believe they
have so neglected defense, they have so embraced their radicalism,
their unfettered immigration. Do you ever think it of nearly
one hundred career courts in Great Britain, Bill, O'Reilly, No,
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you did not.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And that's the reason they're not cooperating, because they fear
they being the leadership of these individual countries. They fear
terrorism and the strength of the Muslim humunity, which is considerable,
and that's why they're not helping out, because all you
got to do is say, listen. If you have a
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nuclear threat at your doorstep, which they certainly do, and
you don't care about that, then either you're emotionally disturbed
or there's something else. And there's something else is they
don't want their soccer games blown up. They are operating
out a fear. But the United States needs allies, and
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Japan is now proving that in vexing China. Japan's really
stepped up there and it helps us to have them,
but we're not going to have them for at least
the next two and a half years. Let me and
I know you.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Spoke to Lindsey Graham, and Lindsey Graham is looking at
the other side of this conflict and what he is
seeing is normalization, recognition. We'll call it an expansion, if
you will, of the Abraham Accords, and that would mean
that hopefully piece in the Middle East for many, many
(10:55):
decades to come. And I hope that's the net result
of that. With the bill, and I was on that
golf trip with the President when he went to Riod
in Saudi Arabia and Cutter and he went to the UAE.
I was there and I learned a lot and the
and every one of these countries wants a great relationship
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with the United States. So there will be new alliances.
And I think Western civilization, which was saved by Winston Churchill, boy,
I will tell you you talk about Neville, Chamberlain, Starmar. Uh,
it is breathtaking to me that that clearly Europe has
forgotten the lessons of history, not even one hundred years ago.
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And they they were willing to have a nuclear armed Iran.
And meanwhile we learned in this conflict that they have
ballistic missile range capable of hitting Paris and capable of
hitting London. And they won't even send a ship to help,
you know, keep open the free flow of oil at
market prices in the straight of Horne moves. How insane
is that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
It's absolutely stunning, It's absolutely stunning.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's over, but it's not going to impact us. You know,
we're gonna have bill, We'll we're gonna have another trillion
dollars to spend on national defense here and one day
they will be. They will be kissing our ass, begging
us to help them for the very conflicts that could
very likely arise that you had previously mentioned. Viz A
VI Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Putin's going to cause trouble, There's no doubt about it.
And these cowardly Europeans can't stand up to them. They're
under power to do it and be at this point
in history, they probably let Putin march into Moldova and
take it. They probably how would they got bill?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
How will they stop them?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, I mean they there is arm capabity, they.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Don't have the will, they don't have the military might,
they don't have the ability to stop them. They would cower.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
And a lot of this is the European media, which
is absolutely it's actually worse than the American media. If
you can imagine that, A gamizing the United States every night, BBC,
Agent France, all of that just demonized, demonized, demonized. And
the population of Europe, you know, they're dependent on the government.
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It's a basically welfare situation. Gimme, gimme, gimme. I don't
care what really happens in the Gulf. Well, when you're
heating bills triple, which they will if this continues. You're
gonna care. But this is very very It is stunning
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that Great Britain because that's the real bulwark Tony Blair
or Prime Minister. This would not be happening. Which term
is weak and he's afraid. And you can't conduct foreign
policy if you're weak and a frame.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I can tell you the net the net result of
all of this is there's going to be a reconfiguration
of the world order, and Europe now is floundering at
I don't think Europe can recover. I don't think Europe
would ever take the necessary steps to insist either on
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assimilation or expelling people that have no interest in assimilating
to their their mores and their values in their individual countries.
I see No go zones continuing. People deny that they're
they're real. I've had reporters on Fox in those No
go zones and they're very real. So I'm not sure
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if there's a path to recovery for them, especially because
of the political reality and the fear that they have
among now their own population. I think I think it's over.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
The final equation to the story is all the weakness
in Europe and in the United States. The Trump patriot
here helps un because they think that they can hold
out because of all the pressure on President Trump, and
they'll get a better deal, and that helps the Mullas.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
But tonight, Bill, the Mullas are dead. I don't know
what mullas you're talking about. The Mullas are. We're now
at the fourth and fifthier of remaining leadership. So I
will tell you this, and you are correct, and Lindsey
Graham rightly convinced you. But I will tell you who
convinced me. It was Steve Whitkoff, and it was Secretary
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of State Rubio who was on my show last night.
It was this was a clear and present danger, and
that's why the President acted. We'll never be able to
calculate how many lives likely were saved, because if they
got these nuclear weapons with their increased ballistic missile range
and capability, this could have been a modern day holocaust,
and Donald Trump prevented that from happen happening, so we'll
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never know how many people's lives may and likely have
been saved. All right, mister O'Reilly, we just st up
on the clock, my brother. We appreciate you being here
all things Bill O'Reilly or Billoreilly dot com. Sir, I
know this is the highlight of your week. Everything's downhill
from here. Have a great Easter with you and your family.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Okay, sir, thanks for having me, You too.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
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(17:30):
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Speaker 2 (17:38):
If for me, I've been two and let me be
very clear, I don't care about the radical no Kings,
protest lunatic left in this country. There's nothing Donald Trump
will ever say or do that they're gonna like or support.
And Donald Trump has not lied to us.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
This is not a rat this is not Afghanistan. He's
never given up as principle of no forever war. However,
and their people said this is going to be a
forever war. It's not going to be a forever war.
There are two people that have convinced me, and two
interviews that I think have been critical in terms of
why now, why are we there? One was with the
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Middle East don Voy Steve Whitkoff, and he was the
one that told us in great detail, and we've played
it on this radio program more than once, but we
described in detail how the Uranians believe that it is
then their inalienable right to have nuclear weapons. They would
not give up on that even after Midnight Hammer, and
they have four uner and sixty kilograms of sixty percent
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enriched uranium that would be enough for eleven nuclear bombs.
The other person that has laid out the case as
well as anybody, as our Secretary of State, Marco Rubio,
and I had this interview with him yesterday. Let's listen
joining us is the Secretary of State himself. Marco Rubio
is with us. Secretary, thank you for taking the time.
I know you're busy and you got a lot on
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your plate. Can we start with the question for those
Americans that may not understand why now? I want to
go through this in great specificity and detail about the necessity.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Of this now.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
When the Middle East don boy Steve Whitkoff came on
this program and explain that the Iranians would not negotiate
the issue of giving up their nuclear weapons program. Bragged
about four hundred and sixty kilograms of sixty percent of
rich uranium that could be turned into weapons grade ninety.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Percent in seven to twelve days.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
At that point in time, it seemed inevitable to me
they were going to in spite of midnight Hammer. They
were going to cling to that quote inalienable writers they
called it was that the tipping point.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Well, it was one of the tipping points.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
I mean, part of the tipping point is the fact
that Aron's been doing this for forty seven years. We
know what this regime is all about. I always say,
a rod, let me be. I'm not talking about the
people of Iran. The people of Iran don't even like
this government or this regime. This is a regime that
is led by radical Shiah clerics, by people who believe
that it is their calling. I know this sounds fantastical,
but it's absolutely true. This is a regime led by
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people who believe that it is their calling and their
purpose in life to usher in the end of the world.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
These people want nuclear weapons.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Why do we know that, because they are assembling all
the things you need for nuclear weapons. They're assembling long
range rockets that can eventually reach the United States, can
already range Europe. We saw them demonstrate two of them
last week, despite denying that they had them. They enriched
uranium to sixty percent, as you pointed out a moment ago,
from sixty to ninety percent, which you need for a bomb,
takes twelve to fourteen days. They bragged about still having that.
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They demand the right to enrich, which is how you
get from sixty to ninety percent. They're the leading sponsor
of terrorism, not in the region, in the world. They
can never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, which
is what President Trump made very clear from the very
first day of his presidency, from in fact, the very
first day of his candidacy, when he came down that
escalator in twenty fifteen, he talked about this. He's actually
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been talking about the threat of Iran before he was
even a political candidate, and as president, he was not
going to allow Iran to pose a threat to Americans
now or future generations of Americans. So we had to
act with very clear purpose. We are going to destroy
their air force. We have largely done that. We were
going to destroy their navy, which we have largely achieved.
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That we were going to destroy a significant percentage of
their missile launchers.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
We are well on our way to achieving that.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
And we were going to wipe out their defense industrial base,
meaning the factories that make.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
The drones and the missiles. We are on our way
to doing that.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Those were our four objectives, because those are the four
things they were going to hide behind to then develop
a nuclear weapon and threaten the world that they tried
to do anything about it, that was not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Under President Trump, we are well on our way.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
We are on or ahead of schedule on each of
those four objectives.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
And we can see the finish line. It's not today,
it's not tomorrow, but it is coming.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
We are going to get to the point where our
military will have achieved all of its objectives in this mission,
and they're doing so with extraordinary efficiency, something that I
think will go down in history is one of the
best run tactical military.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Operations in modern times.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
We'll get back to that timeline in a second, because
both you and the President have said weeks, it's not
going to be months. One thing I think we've learned
and if you can expand on this, because if you
have nuclear capability, you also need the delivery system.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Prior to Epic Fury, you felt.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And you were arguing that and the world has always
underestimated Iran's abilities, whether the nuclear capability or ballistic missile capability,
and you felt it was too dangerous a threat not
to address in this operation ballistic missiles and the nuclear
threat at the same time. So now we've discovered that
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they have the ability and the range that is much
further than we had thought going into this.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Apparently they now have.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
The capability and the range that their missiles could reach
Paris London.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Is that true? That's correct in fact, but they denied it.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Remember anytime you hear Iran, you know, you had a
image a moment ago. This guy a Rochi, their foreign minister.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
This guy is a liar. This guy was on television
like a.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Week ago, two weeks ago, denying that Iran had any
missiles that could go beyond a certain limitation.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And then they fired two of them.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Now we don't think that many of them, but they
are soon to have many of them. They we've destroyed
and are destroying the factories to make those things.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Those things.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
The ones they launched the other day could reach well
into Europe, and actually they had fired it on Diego Garcia.
One of them failed, one of them was shot down,
but they fired him at Diego Garcia, which is really
far away. So they were moving towards eventually he having
a missile that could reach.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
The continental United States. That's what they were aiming to do.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
They were aiming to become the next North Korea, except
not in North Korea run by you know, a regime
that you know is troublesome and hard to.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Understand, but in Iran run by radical.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Sheiah clerics, with intercontinental missiles that could reach the mainland
of the United States.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Eventually, that's what they were going towards. That's what they
would have ultimately achieved.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Had the president, had President Trump not taken these steps
that he's taken.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Mister Secretary, do you believe the North Koreans? They have
been numerous reports that they have been assisting Iran with
both their ballistic missile program and their nuclear program.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Why can't comment on that other than to say that
there's nothing any government is doing or any country in
the world is doing now to help Iran that is
in any way impeding our mission. Do they have countries
that have helped them in the past, Yes, they have,
I mean, and by the way, Iran also helps other
countries by providing drones and rockets and things of that
nature that they've developed themselves. But understand this, Iran, this
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is a country that has trouble coming up with drinking water.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
This is a country whose.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Economy is in shambles, is going to be even worse
off after this operation. This is a country whose people
have been protesting in the streets because not just the
lack of freedom, but the lack of economic opportunity. Because
they've taken all of their money, all the money they have,
the little money they have because of sanctions, and they've
invested all of it in sponsoring terrorism and building long
range missiles, increasing the range of their missiles every year,
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and building thousands of them, and building these one way,
the tack drones that they're using against their neighbors. This
is what they've put their money towards, and this is
what they were going to continue to do. They refuse
to negotiate on missiles, they refuse to even negotiate on terrorism,
and they refuse to negotiate down on enrichment.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
They demand the right to enrich.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
So for all these people out there talking about how
this could have been avoided, they were given every opportunity
in multiple talks, and all they did is either reject
or delay. And that's not going to happen under President Trump.
He's not going to allow Iran to become a nuclear
power on his watch and threaten America now or in
the future.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Mister Secretary, I guess the ideal situation would be a
negotiated settlement. The President gave and had said publicly over
and over again before Midnight or and before Operation Epic Fury,
and he's saying to the people that the fourth Fifthier,
whatever level of leadership remains, he's saying to them now
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he would prefer a negotiated settlement. Now, apparently they have
some power because they promised the President that they would
allow twenty specific tankers through the Straight or hor Mooz.
And my understanding is those tankers made it through, so
they must have some.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Degree of power.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
The difference here is will the fourth fifthier level of leadership,
will they be smarter than Tier one, two, and three,
and will they make the deal or will they be
facing you know, death themselves in the near future.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Well, first of all, we can't ignore that for forty
seven years they've avoided and rejected any effort to negotiate.
That doesn't mean we're going to stop trying. The President
of the President Trump always always would rather have negotiations
than war, and he will always. We gave him sixty
days early last year, we gave him additional time to
negotiate after Midnight Hammer again earlier this year. But each
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and every time those things have proved fruitless.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
But we're going to keep trying.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
There are messages being exchanged, there are talks going on,
There is the potential for direct meeting at some point.
We're always going to be open for that, but we're
not going to be We're not.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
What President Trump is not going to allow is he's
not going.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
To allow fake negotiations to be used as a delay
tactic to buy more time to buy themselves space. That's
what he's not going to allow. You know, the buy
An administration spent four years, four years trying to resurrect
the Obama nuclear deal with Iran. They spent four years
trying to talk to the Iranians, and they strung them
along for four years, and I think they thought they
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could string this administration along for four years. But they're
not going to string along President Trump. He's not going
to fall for their games. He hasn't fallen for their games.
So we'll always be prepared to talk, but we're not
going to allow that or the failure of talks to
impede our ability to defend this country and to protect
this country from a real threat.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
It's a threat to the world. It's not just a
threat to America.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
The difference is President Trump is the only leader in
the world with both the capability and frankly, the guts
to do something about it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Let me ask you about NATO.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You said that our NATO allies have been disappointing, specifically,
I know you're talking about Spain, Great Britain, France, even
Italy now and that after all of this is done,
we will re examine this relationship, and especially when it
comes to we pay two thirds of the freight when
it comes to NATO defense. And if it's just quote
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about us defending Europe, you said, at this point, how
do we call that? And we can't have our landing
rights in European nations? Our allies at a time when
we need them. What good is that alliance? And is
the NATO alliance at risk?
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Sean I've been one of the strongest defenders of NATO
during my time as a United States Senator because I
found great value in it, and it wasn't just about
defending Europe. I said, it also allowed us that military
bases in Europe that allowed us to project power into
different parts of the world when our national security was threatened.
If now we have reached a point where the NATO
alliance means that we can't use those bases, that in fact,
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that we can no longer use those bases to defend
America's interests, then NATO is a one way street. The
NATO is simply about us having troops in Europe to
defend Europe, but when.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We need their help, not their help.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
We're not asking them to conduct their strikes when we
need them to allow us to use their military basis.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Their answer is no. Then why are we in NATO.
You have to ask that question.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Why do we have billions and billions of dollars, hundreds
of billions of dollars over the years, trillions of dollars,
and all these American forces stationed in the region. If
we can only use we can in our time of need,
We're not going to be allowed.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
To use those bases. So I think there's no doubt.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
Unfortunately, after this conflict is concluded, we are going to
have to re examine that relationship. We're going to have
to re examine the value of NATO and that alliance
for our country. Ultimately, that's a decision for the President
to make, and you'll have to make it. We're going
to finish the job here. As I said, we're very
very close to achieving our objectives on all of these
things that I've outlined. But I do think unfortunately we
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are going to have to re examine and whether or
not this alliance that has served this country well for
a while is still serving that purpose or has it
now become a one way street where America is simply
in a position to defend Europe, but when we need
the help of our allies, they're going to deny US
basing rights and they're going.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
To deny us overflight.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
I think these are very legitimate questions that we need
to be asking, and this are going to have to
be very carefully examined after this conflict.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Is over, and you stand by weeks not months away
from this conflict coming to an answer.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
Yes, yeah, I think we're very close to achieving our objectives.
I don't want to put a timeline on it, but
we can see the finish line. The finish line meaning
we will have achieved all of the objectives of the
President outlined, and those are important because if we achieve
those objectives, we will make it nearly impossible for Iran
to have a nuclear weapon anytime in the near future,
and the world will be a safer place and our
country will be safer, which is the number one job
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the President has now.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I don't care if you're a radical eyed Democrat. I
don't care if you're want of the No King's lunatics.
I don't care if you're one of these isolation is
with a big mouth that don't know what the hell
you're talking about. If we had listened to you, and
not to the likes of President Trump and Steve Whitcoff
and Marco Rubio and others, this would have been a
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threat that we would have handed off to our children
and grandchildren. I have no desire to debate people on
the issue. It just as a fact and this is
now going to come to a swift end, and the
world will be a safer place. That is my strong belief.
And God speed to our great troops and our great military.
Big break. Right back, we'll continue.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
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Speaker 2 (32:07):
All right, arguments about birthright citizenship before the Supreme Court today.
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