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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hour two Sean Hannity Show, toll free. It's eight hundred
and nine four one shant if you want to be
a part of the program, Let's go back to Sunday.
President Trump announcing the death of the Supreme Leader, the
Ayatola Ali Hamani and the surrender of thousands of the
Iranian military.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Listen Iranz formerly Supreme Leader Ayatola Hamene is dead. This
wretched and vile man had the blood of hundreds and
even thousands of Americans on his hands and was responsible
for the slaughter of countless thousands of innocent people all
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across many countries. Last night, all over Iran, the voices
of the Iranian people could be heard cheering and celebrating
in the streets when his death was announced. The entire
military command is gone as well. Many of them want
to surrender into saving their lives. They want immunity.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
They're calling by the thousands.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
The hour of your freedom is at hands. For years
you have been asking America for help. Siege this moment.
Do not let it pass. Unbelievable history in the making.
Here Iranian people rightly cheering. How manyse death. One Iranian
protester calls out celebrities for complaining about ice agitators while
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remaining silent on the current uranium regime. You know what's
amazing about this? You think of oh genocide. You know,
Israel lost the equivalent on October seventh. They have less
than ten million people in their population. It's a country
the size of New Jersey. It is a tiny country,
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and their military might is breasthtaking. But it's that born
out of necessity, because they've been surrounded their entire existence
by people that want.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
To wipe them off the map.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And what they've been able to accomplish in terms of
protecting and securing their homeland is spectacular. But if you
think back, what was happening in the halls of Congress,
college campuses, worldwide rise of anti Semitism, which is repulsive,
you know in the punditry class even, I mean unbelievable.
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Now Iranian protesters calling out a lot of the celebrities,
for example, and there were many of them this weekend,
you know, condemning Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Listen, listen, Mark Ruffalo, why are you talking about the
ice that one single woman, that doctor came in front
of ice. I don't understand where you guys want to
take this with Gaza and Hamas and Islamic Republic of
your own. Neither of you have lived under the Islamic
Republic tyranny.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
That you guys are talking about the death of.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
One single woman that I've came in front of an
ice agent, a police, and you guys are talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You guys have human rights. You guys have everything that
you need in your life.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
We have been taking our lives have been taken away
from us. You guys have everything, and you guys want,
for once have won president in your country that wants
the best for the people of America that have built
the land for two hundred and fifty years. America has
a right to have a country. America has a right
to have a country as much as Iranians have a
right to have a country. So let's make the get
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the facts right here, all right, Let's not get ourselves
lost in this illusion that you guys have been billing
for us.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And then let's take a trip down memory lane. Because
all Democrats could care about was hating on Donald Trump
and trying to get a vote on the War Powers
Act from nineteen seventy three. It is not constitutional here's
Nancy Pelosi actually making the case against the War Powers Act.
But of course then Barack Obama was president.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Last abom leader.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
You're saying that cidents did not need authorization initially and
still does not need any authorization from Congress one Libya.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yes, yes, that was a great answer.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I do agree with the President that this is this
is likely the chance, you know, one chance for a
generation that the Iranian people will have, and their hour
is at hand. I hope there are plans for countries
to provide arms. You don't win win revolutions with slingshots,
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and that the people will now be able to fight
back after they've been slaughtered by this this evil Iranium
regime as they have been protesting for their liberty and freedom.
Something I've always argued is the natural state of mankind
to be in. And they have lived under tyranny in
a theocracy now for far too long, and I'm just
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hoping that they now might be able to for those
holdouts that are still in power, that they would have
the ability to defend themselves as they now take back
their government and hopefully create a new destiny and a
new future for their children and their grandchildren. Now we
had Braza Paulavi on this program a number of times.
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Joining us now is Ali Favi is a member of
Iran's Parliament in exile, National Council of Resistance of Iran
and president of Neary's Policy Research and Consulting in Policy
analysis firm from Washington, d C. Thank you so much,
Ali for being with us. I'm sure you're in contact
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with a lot of people in Iran. Are the people
now ready to take this once in a generation opportunity
and take their country back?
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Well, thank you very much Sean for having me on
your show again. Actually, I'm speaking to you now from Paris.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
And I'm not too happy with Paris today. I'm not
too happy with Macrone, I'm not too happy with Starmar,
I'm not too happy with Spain. I'm not too happy
with a lot of countries. I will give a tip
of the hat to the Australians and even the Canadians
understand the need for this regime change.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Yes, I also share your frustration, but of course Paris
is where the NCRI headquarters is located, and I share
your point that history is in the making. In fact,
today our President elect, Mariam Rajavi said that Harmony's death
is the death of religious tyranny in Iran, and now
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is the time to establish freedom and sovereignty for the
people of Iran. And based on her ten point plan
and to transfer sovereignty to the people of Iran, the
NCRI announced the formation of a provisional government that would
lead Iran into free AFA elections within six months of
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the regime to overthrow and for the election of a
Constitution Assembly that will draft the constitution of the new
Republic and lead Iran to a bright, bright future that
is so well it deserves. I think for me, Sean
really this is it seems to me, it's like a
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fifty four year odyssey coming to a successful end. Because
when I was nineteen, I was in Los Angeles is
studying at UCLA. I was involved in the anti Shark movement,
and we went through so much torment and suffering, and
of course only to see that it posted like Romanian
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hijacker revolution. And then when Homaine came, my own brother
with whom opposed to the Shah, went to Iran a
bright young man educated in the US as an ailspat engineer,
only to be arrested and executed at the age of
twenty nine. And of course, in all these forty seven years,
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I have seen so many, so many friends, so many
family perish at the hands of this criminal regime. One
hundred thousand members and supporters of the MUK, including thirty
thousand just in nineteen eighty eight. So for me in
a sense of the vicious sweet moment, in that all
of those who gave their lives will not be with us, by.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The way, like your brother, I mean, your brother was
executed by the current Iranian regime, well now the now
dead regime in nineteen eighty one for his opposition to
their repressive policies. He was only twenty nine years old.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Yes, but I feel they did not die in vain.
I'm reminded of what Thomas Jefferson said that the tree
of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with
the blood of tyrants and patriots. And patriots they were.
And you also mentioned you hope that the Western governments
provide arms to the Iranians. It's somewhat ironic because NYK
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had a standing army dupped across the border back in
twenty oh three, and of course some bureaucrats in the
State Department to appeal, the Iron demanded that they be disarmed.
Now imagine if that standing army was present and just
across the border, how the situation would have been different.
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But that's pat Let's look to the future today. There's
a very vibrant, potent, structured opposition within Iran itself, a
new generation of NK having sprung up from the blood
of those who gave their lives. And just last Monday,
a week ago, two hundred and fifty of them took
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on a daring assault attack Commedies compound last Monday. Unfortunately,
one hundred of them were killed, some were arrested, but
one hundred and fifty we drew safely and we speak.
They are busy attacking some garrison, some government institutions in
Iran to try to liberate them and of course take
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whatever weapons there is to fight the IRGC. And I
absolutely agree with you that now it is time for
the world to stand with their Ringian people, after so
many years of appeasing them, so many years of looking
the other way in search of some petty economic interest,
not realizing that this regime is a danger to the
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whole world. Look what they've done in the region. Right
now in the past two days. We can have it
in all of these capitals, as far as Cyprus, and
so in this sense, I think the moment is coming
for us, and I think the people as jan As
ready to go after one hundred and twenty years of tyranny,
first under Za Shot, then Mahammadreza and then Hormonian comedy.
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I think the road to it death.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Well, Ali, let me let me ask you.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
If we're just limited on time and I really want
to get to this point, what is likely to emerge
as the next generation of leaders in Iran.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Well, I think that, first of all, as the President
has correctly said, it is the people of Iran who
will decide who will lead them to the future. And
we are talking about the future, not relics of the past.
I know that Vesa has gotten a lot of headlines,
has gotten a lot of sound bites, but Resa represents
the past, has not distanced himself from the priuct of
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his father.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I've interviewed Pavlavi and he was very clear. He said
it doesn't have to be me. He just wants to
be of assistance in the transition. He was very clear
to me about that.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
But you know, just last week, he issued a statement
basically lashing out at thirty five percent of the Runian population.
The curse the Balucci is the Arabs, saying that they
have no right to autonomy within the terry for internacy
of Iran. But our point is really we do not
need to stick with people who represent the past. We
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have to look the future. And though is that future
we want to republic in Iran like the United States?
Speaker 7 (12:03):
Is all right?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Quick?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Break more with Ali Safa v, a member of Iran's
Parliament in exile, National Council of Resistance and president of
Near East Policy Research. Anyway, more with him on the
other side, what does the future now hold for Iran
as they have this once in a generation opportunity to
actually fix their country. Then we'll get your calls in
on the other side. Eight hundred and nine four one
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Shawn this Monday. As we continue her, we continue with aliv.
He is a member of Iran's Parliament in exile, National
Council of Resistance of Iran. The President I think is
dead right. You've asked for this help, You've asked for
this freedom, You've asked for this opportunity. Likely you know
a chance for you know only one chance in a generation.
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What are you going to do with it? And what
is the plan of Iranians to get control of their
government and have a have free and fair elections and
you know, hopefully a democratic report public emerge. Ideally the
people of Iran will get an opportunity, hopefully sooner than later,
to vote. I'm not I'm not going to get involved
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in your domestic political arguments or debates, but I will
tell you I don't think the president is wrong. I
think this is likely you know, one chance that that
will last for a generation. And the hour of your
freedom's at hand, and you've been asking for American help,
You've got it. And if you don't join together and
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sees this moment and you don't let it and you
let it pass, it's going to be a mistake. So
everybody better put aside whatever disagreements they have, work together
and give the Iranian people a chance for you know,
to rebuild their once great society.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
So I absolutely agree with you. In fact that what
missus Roger Be also underscored that all Arenias must come
together and more taught having a free, on democratic, republican
future where the rights of all citizens regardless of creed,
regardless of religion, regardless of gender, are respected, and that
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there's gender equality. So I hear that you said it's
a momentous occasion. I do not believe after one hundred
and twenty years, the people of Iran are going to
let this opportunity go by. Certainly we're not going to
do that. I do want to return to Iran after
being in exile for forty fifty four years. I think
it is time and we will definitely do that and
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make it wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Uranian people need to have elections, and they need to
get armed, and they need to be able to fight
back against remnants of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, whatever cuts
forces remains, and everybody had better understand that. You better
move expeditiously. America is not doing this again, you know, America.
You know there's only there's only so many windows of
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opportunity you can get to be a master of your
own destiny.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And it's very important.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I think Ali Safavi, we appreciate you being with us.
Thank you, sir. You know, there are some people that
get it, and then there are people that don't get it.
Let's start with then President Ronald Reagan talking about Iran
and what a blot it was on our record. Now,
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remember nineteen seventy nine, the Iranian Revolution, Remember Jimmy Carter,
four hundred and forty days Americans held hostage. Ronald Reagan
gets sworn in January twentieth, nineteen eighty one, And as
he's being sworn in, those hostages get released. Why because
they feared Ronald Reagan. It just like they fear Donald Trump.
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Maybe they didn't fear him enough to their own detriment.
And here's what Reagan said about Iran back in the day.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
I did criticize the president because of our undercutting of
what was a stalwart ally, the Shah of Iran. And
I am not at all convinced that he was far
out of line with his people or that they wanted
that to happen. The Shah had done our bidding and
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carried our load in the Middle East for quite some time,
and I did think that it was a blot on
our record that we let him down. Have things gotten better?
The Shah, whatever he might have done, was building low
cost housing, had taken land away from the mullets and
was distributing it to the peasants so they could be landowners.
Things of that kind, but we turned it over to
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a maniacal fanatic who has slaughtered thousands and thousands of people,
calling it executions.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I made those comments in October of eighty four. I
want to take you back eleven years though twenty fifteen,
and this is Secretary of State Marc Rubio. I mean,
he's had this moral clarity understanding. Frankly, it's born in genius.
He's so smart warning about the threat of Iran. This
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is eleven years ago.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
I think everything that needs to be said about the
details of this deal have already been said. I do
want to be recorded for history's purposes before I know
what was going to happen in regards to this As
it goes through, Iran will immediately use the money that
it's receiving in sanctions relief to begin to build up
its conventional capabilities. It will establish the most dominant military
power in the region outside of the United States, and
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it will raise the price of US operating in the region.
They're going to build anti access capabilities, rockets capable of
destroying our aircraft carriers and ships, continue to build these
swift boats that are able to come on us, these
fast boats, that are able to swarm our naval assets,
and they'll make it harder and harder for US troops
to be in the region.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
They'll also work with.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
Other terrorist groups in the region the target American servicemen
and women, and they may or may not deny that
they're involved, but they will target us and raise the
price of our presence in the Middle East until they
hope to.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Completely pull side of that region.
Speaker 9 (18:01):
The laws will continue to build long range missiles, missiles
capable of reaching the United States. Those are not affected
by this deal, and they will continue to build them
as they've been doing. And then at some point in
the near future, when the time is right, they will
build a nuclear weapon. And they will do so because
at that point they will know that they have become immune,
that we will no longer be able to strike their
nuclear program because the price of doing so will be
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too high. This is not just the work of imagination.
It exists in the world today. It's called North Korea,
where a lunatic possesses dozens of nuclear weapons and a
long range rocket that can already reach the United States
and we cannot do anything about it.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
An attack on.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
North Korea today would result in an attack on Tokyo
or Soul, or Guam or Hawaii or California, And so
the world must now live with a lunatic in possession
of the nuclear of nuclear weapons. And this is the
goal Aron has as well, to reach a point where
they become immune to any sort of credible military threat,
because the price of a military strike would be too high.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
All right, let's get to our busy, busy phones. Let's
say hi to Keviny's and our nation's capital, Washington, DC. Kevin, Hi,
how are you glad you called?
Speaker 10 (19:11):
How you doing?
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Sean?
Speaker 10 (19:14):
Let me put it to you like this and you
summed it up at w Goingly. Most people have forgotten
that the US Navy transits a straight to our moves.
I have three awards to transmit trans these straight of
hor moves. The Iranians have sibworm missiles one oh five houisers.
At least once a month they take a crew. How
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should they detain the crew of oil tankers because they
say they passed through their territorial wards. They literally have
jammers on that point where they can jam GPS, So
sometimes those ships wander into Iranian territorial waters. The insurance
company's pays.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That have them released.
Speaker 10 (19:57):
Then, on top of that, most people forgot that they
took one of our naval ravine crews hostage in twenty fourteen,
basically saying they had wandered.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Into Iranian waters.
Speaker 10 (20:11):
These moors had been at war with US for fourty
nine years. You also forgot, Sean, the Navy launched Operation
prey Man. It's in nineteen eighty seven, the largest military
one day military operation since World War II, because the
Rainings were out there mining the strait of Horror moves
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in the Persian in the Persian Gulf itself, we caught.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Them red handed.
Speaker 10 (20:36):
What does it take, Sean for the Democrats to understand
that this deocracy has to go? The Persian people are oppressed,
They're crying out for freedom. Where are the protests in
the streets From the other side, I saw Iranians out
on the street here in Washington, DC celebrating the death
of Komani. Where are they seean?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Uh, We're all these kids on college campuses that you know,
Israel loses the equivalent of forty thousand Americans in a day,
and if that happened to this country, I'm pretty sure
every American would stand up and demand its government, obliterate
the country responsible. And yet all these people on college
campuses around the world, in the halls of Congress, on airwaves,
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I mean, just just blasting Israel for defending its sovereignty.
I mean, and not a peep. We've had a mass
slaughter in the lead up to the actions this weekend,
mass slaughter of students and people taking to the streets
tired of living under this you know, radical extreme Islamo
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fascist deocracy, and they wanted freedom, and by doing so,
they did it a great risk, and tens of thousands
were slaughtered as a result. You don't win revolutions with
sling shots. I've said my entire career. That's why I'm
hoping that the students, the people in Iran, I'm hoping
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that they get the arms for any remaining revolutionary guard
forces that won't lay down their weaponry, and if this regime,
you know, whatever remnants are there, that they get toppled.
Whoever's making these decisions to continue to bomb neighboring countries
and attack Israel, they need to go. And then the
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people must take control of their own destiny. The Trump's
doctrine is cleared. We're not going to be the ones
responsible for that. Well, that's got that. They've been asking
for help. President Trump promised them help is on the way.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Now help came and arrived in a more spectacular fashion
than anybody predicted. Now is their moment of truth. And
I do believe it is the natural calling or state
of mankind to be free. That we're in doubt by
our creator. And people have had it with this rigid
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and oppressive theocracy that has created nothing but poverty, misery, dying,
and death. It's been a death cult. And now's their chance.
I hope they take advantage of it, not do too.
Speaker 10 (23:19):
And I want to say to our brave soldiers and
airmen and all our military personnel, God be with you,
be safe, Okay. You're carrying out righteous mission. Okay. And
we have a command in chief who knows that once
the mission is finished, we're out of there. They will
be able to set up the government they want. If
they want to go back to it theocracy, that may happen.
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If they want freedom, they may it may happen. But
we let the arraigning people decide.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
The one thing.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Any new leader in the region, in that country will
know what their fate is if in fact they try
to reconstitute their ballistic or nuclear weapons systems, they're not
going to be able to get away with it anyway.
Appreciate the call, my friend, eight hundred nine four one, Sean,
if you want to be a part of the program, John,
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Live free or die No Hampshire. Sir, how are you
glad you called?
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
How are you hello? I'm fine? How are you glad
you called?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I'm sorry for that, hey, Sean. I wanted to say
thank you for what you do. Jesus has really come
down from the heavens on this last election. Charlie Kirk
has been right about a lot of stuff about Donald
Trump being a very rare breed of president. We're probably
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never going to see. There's nothing like him for the
next one hundred and fifty years probably, And he said that.
He also mentioned I ran being the ways that they
do things here. But I wanted to ask your opinion, sir,
I'm Sean and your listeners. I want to see what
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what happen if we give the Iranian people weapons, small arms.
I know you're a big small arms guy. I am too,
and have them fight their own government to uh level
that out. So we don't have to bring any soldiers in.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
We're not going to bring any soldiers in. I can
tell you that's not part of the Trump doctrine. I
don't I don't see any scenario into which that's going
to happen. That will be the only way to ultimately
finish the job. And if you have millions of Iranians
that in fact do have weapons and they rise up
against the remnants of this regime, and there's not a
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lot or if for those revolutionary guard forces that will
not put their weapons down, uh, there's only one way
to get rid of them. And you just describe perfectly
what that method is. I've got to believe that's probably
part of the plan. As a matter of fact, I
already know it's part of the plan.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Okay, awesome, and I'm a big believer in Berna. I
have one myself.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It's great technology. I love it.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
You're not taking life, you're stopping a threat, and it's
a very quick way to disarm a person. In New
Hampshire we do have a standard ground state, and in
Massachusetts they don't have a standard ground. You have a
duty retreat and you need an LTC. And I have
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no interest in carrying in mass because of a loss.
So I do recommend a burner, but I do have
firearms myself. But point zero zero zero one percent.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
It's it is.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
It is a great option for the majority of cases
where you may find a need to defend yourself with
your family, and the lethal option brings with it a
lot of consequences. That's not my first choice. That's why
I have both every day part of my overall security strategies.
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Appreciate you, man, Thank you. All right, quick break right
back to our busy phones. It's toll free eight hundred
nine one sean if you want to be a part
of the program as we continue, all right, let's get
back to our busy phones eight hundred ninefol one sean.
If you want to be a part of the program.
I think we have a minute left. Let's say hi
to Jeff in Texas. Jeff, how are you, God bloss Texas, sir, Hey.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Sean, great to talk with you. Two points I want
to bring up, and I'll try to be quick. My
first one is people being hesitant about this new conflict
with regards to regime change. With the big nasty word
or set of words actually got the.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
The regime has been changed, whether we want to acknowledge
it or not.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
But yes, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Yeah, And I had the pleasure of serving in the
Army as an officer, and in preparation for my unit
going to Afghanistan, we had a soldiers show up straight
from basic training eighteen years old, double took his birthday.
Sure enough. He had been born after September eleventh, two
thousand and one. So he's going to go fight for
a war that started before he was born.
Speaker 10 (28:16):
You know.
Speaker 7 (28:16):
But when you look Afghanistan, there was hundreds of tribes
all scattered around, all isolated, and we tried to go
in there and make democracy happen in a seventh century culture,
it just wasn't going to happen. But Iran is completely different,
you know, They're much more civilized. They were very civilized
before the Islamic Revolution, and I think there's a real
chance to make real change there that wasn't possible in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I totally agree with you. I mean this, the Persian
culture was once a great, incredible culture and it can
be again. And I believe that people now are been
crying out for it. Now, their moment of truth is
at end anyway, my friend, appreciate you. God bless Texas
eight hundred and nine four one Shawn, you want to
be a part of the program.