December 8, 2025 • 33 mins
In this heartfelt episode, Sean reflects on the profound impact of Charlie Kirk and his mission to engage young people on college campuses. Joined by Erica Kirk, Sean dives into Charlie's last book, "Stop in the Name of God," which emphasizes the significance of honoring the Sabbath and disconnecting from the relentless pace of modern life. Erica shares personal anecdotes about Charlie's dedication to this practice and how it transformed their lives, encouraging listeners to embrace rest as a strength rather than a weakness. Join Sean and Erica for a touching tribute that highlights the importance of faith, family, and making mindful choices in our busy lives.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks gotsh on an hour two Sean Hennity Show. Toll
free our telephone numbers eight hundred and nine to four
one Seawn if you want to be a part of
the program. I'm in New York today, only the second
day this year, and I'm here for a really important reason,
Turning point and Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk have have
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created something that is so phenomenal that it played a
huge role in my opinion in the twenty twenty four election.
And what was the mission is that they went into
hostile territory college campuses and they would talk to young people,
and all of a sudden, they would talk about rejecting
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hookup culture. Not exactly the most common thing that you
hear in a college campus. They would talk about, maybe
you don't want to be the kid that goes to
the frat party and you're throwing up in the bushes
later on that night. Maybe want to make different choices
in your life. Maybe you know we are mind, body,
and spirit, and maybe we were all into work and
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now we're all into maha and getting healthy. Maybe you
need to nurture the spiritual side of your life. And
it also became a movement. And the sad part is
is kids were not hearing this message on a college campus,
you know, which is supposed to be a bastion of
learning and where the free, open exchange of ideas and
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ideals and principles and opinions take place. We lost Charlie
too young, and when he passed, I said, that was
the magic of Charlie. And then I spent a lot
of time with my fiance. We were watching a lot
of tapes of Charlie and Charlie and Erica and their
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relationship and the things that they did to strengthen their partnership,
and which is very honored to have in the studio.
Erica Kirk is with us Charlie's last book and he
finished it about a month before he was assassinated. Is
called Stop in the Name of God. Why honoring the
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Sabbath will transform your life? And if you watch The Chosen,
which I've watched start to finish probably six times, because
I get more out of it every time I watch it.
I'm obsessed with it, you know, Shabatra lom or right,
which is a big part of it. But anyway, Erica,
it's great to see you. Thank you for being here.
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I'm glad you did publish Charlie's last work. He had
just finished it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
He did thank you for having me Sean.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You are such a blessing and such a dear friend
to myself but also to my husband.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
He loved you, I loved him, loved you. I respected him.
I told the story on the air that I was
so after all this happened, and I thought back, I
was so glad. I got to ran into him while
I was going into the White House to interview the President,
and he was at the same gate when I was
at I'm like, Charlie, I hadn't seen him in a while,
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and I got to pull him aside. I said, I
want to thank you for all that you did, because
he motivated all these young people to want to get
involved in politics, and both of you did that.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I was so proud of him.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And I will never forget the day that it was
election night, and how nervous but cautiously optimistic he was.
He was so prayerful that whole day. And we were
actually talking about this last night. How when it was
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just about to be announced, it was radio silent, and
then Cliff on the live stream was freaking out because
he was streaming it and he's like, this is not normal.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You're not supposed to have silence on radio or on
any thing.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And he just went right in and I ran over
to Charlie, wrapped my arms around him, gave him the
biggest kiss. I was so proud of him because everyone
can see him on his radio show, and I know
Ainsley knows this too. With you, everyone can see you
working so hard and during the day, but when you
get home and it's just you and your love of
your life, and they see how hard you work, and
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you come home and you're just able to bear it
all and be like I just need to rest and
breathe for a second. And they're in that place where
they can do that and share their heart. I got
to see it amplified even more so during that season
of time, and I was so proud of him because
he worked so hard, all the campus visits, the whole team,
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everyone worked. There was not a nine to five. It
was just full mission focused. We have to deliver the
youth vote. Everyone else can focus on everything else. Charlie's mission.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I don't grandma Grandpa vote, I mean the older people vote.
I wanted everybody to take the team. My message was simple,
assume that your vote, especially in all the swing states,
would be the deciding vote in that state.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And that was my message even going into the Tennessee
Congressional seven race. It was the same thing. The thing
that I regret I have a regret in terms of
my relationship with Charlie is I did not talk to
him about the things that the two of you often
talked about in front of children, and that is your faith,
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your deep abiding faith. And if I was going to
have a last word, and I've been doing this since
before you were born nineteen have we born before? In
nineteen eighty seven? I was eighty eight. I started in
radio before you were born. Okay, so that's not long.
Everyone in there is dying, they're laughing. But I have
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a passion and the minute this silly light went on,
it transformed my life. And that's all I want to
to do. And I did it for free, and then
I did it for next to no money, and it happened.
But if I had a last breath, I'd want it
to be Charlie's message in this book and I because
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what you're saying here is you both adopted the Sabbath,
and that means sunset Friday, all the phones are off,
all the connection to the world is off, and you
wouldn't put it back on till the next night when
the sun went down again. That's like twenty four straight hours.
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And Charlie addresses all of this in the book. And
even as you can see, I like tore this book apart.
I read every page and I want you to explain
to people how you practice it, how it impacted your life,
because the idea of disconnecting, especially among young people, is
like unimaginable.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Foreign It's totally a foreign concept.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So Charlie is the type of person where when he
is all in, he is all in. He will he
if he finds a topic he is fascinated about, he
will research it till there's no other book that's left
to read about it. And so we probably have fifty
plus books at our home in on our bookshelf about
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the Sabbath. He wanted to learn everything he could. And
it's because when prior to honoring the Sabbath, he knew
that he was on the precipice of burnout and that
horrified him because he that's not he There is no
stopping for my husband. And so he'd went on a
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total deep dive and realized after reading the Bible multiple
times honoring the Sabbath, honoring the Sabbath, and in Exodus
and Deuteronomy, one is about honoring the Sabbath because it'll
set you free, and the other is because God rested
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as well. So rest isn't a weakness. And our culture
views rest as a weakness, but it's a productive rest,
it's not a rest. And I go and watch you know,
Seinfeld all day, Love Seinfeld. Charlie's favorite two TV shows
were Seinfeld and Fraser.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I thought I was gonna guess curby your enthusiasm and
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Seinfeld and Fraser. And so for him, he'd come home.
He started off very slow at first. It was a
half hour a day for half hour for the weekend.
But every single time he would turn his phone off
and he would put it in the junk drawer, close
the junctraor and say Shabat shalom. The reason he said
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that was not because of that's what you're supposed to say.
He Charlie was also very fascinated with brain health and
to him, especially since both him and I played sports.
We understood this. And for anyone out there listening who's
played sports, you get this. There's a sports psychology method
of when when you're at the free throw line or
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you're about to start a game, you have a trigger word.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Within yourself of to get focused.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't care if that's game on or if let's
go like, you have that one word that gets you
in that mental state of it's go time. And so
for Charlie, he had those words, and so for him,
Shabat shalom, go time.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I'm with the Lord.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
That was almost like a declaration to the enemy, you
cannot enter my brain space. I am here to make
a declaration with vocally, with my heart and soul that
I am going to take X amount of hours. Again,
it started off which is a half hour an hour
to full days, which then eventually went to turning the
phone on on Sunday morning. But he did that because
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it was a declaration to the end to me. You
will try and come after me. You'll try and come
after my brain, You'll try and come after my heart.
But I am disconnecting from this echo chamber in this world,
and I'm focusing on God, my family, my children, and
that was it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
He would read, he would research, he would spend time
with the Lord, he would go hiking with with the kids.
He it was special to him. It was his time
to reset. And I know that he told this to
the team all the time. He would say, if you
refuse or if you decide not to honor the Sabbath,
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it is you who is missing out on that gift
that God is giving to you, not the other way around.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
He was a really good salesman in the book. In
this way, He's like he overcame every objection everybody, every
excuse that everybody could come up with. And I'm like,
going through the list, I'm like, guilty, yilty, guilty.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm too busy. I don't have time.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What if the president tries to me, that's a valid
thing for.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Him, It's valid for me to.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Do right exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
He's a real thing, you get it. And the President
I have talked to him every hour on the twenty
four hour day clock, and and he talks. He said
he'd love to sleep. I'm like, I love to sleep more.
Leading into that election, I was sleeping maybe an hour
and a half two hours a night for six months.
I mean, I just threw my heart into it. We're
all doing our part. We're all like spokes on a
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wheel exactly. I want to stay on this and go
back to this, but I don't want to be negligent either,
And it really broke my heart when I saw what happened.
I know you've answered a lot of the questions. I'm
not going to ask you questions I know you've been
asked before. But what I want to know is, how
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are you doing now? Because all of a sudden everyone's
in your life. Then slowly but surely, reality begins to
set it in. You find a few nights where you're
alone and it's you and the kids, and then you
know it dawns. It really reality strikes and everyone mourns differently.
And how are you doing? How are the children doing?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I appreciate that question.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It's it's interesting because my situation is beyond a one
of one.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
There is no blueprint for this.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I my husband's murder was so public, the analysis of
my reactions by the world has been so public. It
has been one of the most humbling, fascinating, painful, interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Moments of my life. And you're absolutely right. You really
do see who's in your corner. But you also find.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
People in your life that you never even knew existed
that are reaching out trying to just tell you that
this has really humanized them.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And I have been at that side.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
To me has been very fascinating because who am I
to judge someone's road to Damascus When something like this,
as it should, rock people to their core.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Political violence is never a solution. It's never the answer.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And if they thought that they were going to silence
my husband, they did the exact opposite. Not even just
awakening aside in me that will become absolutely relentless on
making sure my husband's message is never forgotten, and turning
Point USA becomes something this world has never even seen before.
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But it also has sparked this incredible revival of people
that are realizing, Okay, this is not right at all,
and it has humanized me in a way where I
am starting to know more about the Lord, I am
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buying a Bible, I am curious about what Charlie had
to say. And so for me, when you ask how
are we doing, you can say, well, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
How is she doing it?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
She's a mom and now she's running Turning Point USA.
And now she's running Turning Point action. How is she
able to do this?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Easy?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Quick answered God, of course, my faith. We do not
mourn like the rest of the world. I don't have
time for that. But Turning Point USA is not just
an organization to me. They are my family. Those students,
they're like an extension of.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Children for me.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Even Mikey, even Mikey Studio with us family, Mikey McCoy
has pastor McCoy's who married you. We're gonna take a break,
we'll come back on the other side. We'll pick up.
We'll talk more about how this impacted you personally, We'll
talk about your children. But more importantly, I'm just urging
everybody this should be a must read book. And I'm
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speaking from my heart here. We don't nourish our spiritual
side enough. And if you could practice what Charlie The
message that Charlie's were laying in is in what really
is his final book, his final message to us stop
in the name of God. Why Honoring the Sabbath will
transform your life. When you're finished reading it, it will
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be very real to you. And maybe you don't do
it completely, but if you take some of the advice.
It will transform your life. Anyway, you can go to
forty five book dot com or you can go to
Hannity dot com. We'll link to forty five books dot
com also Amazon dot com and bookstores now all across
the country. Will continue on the other side, Erica Kirk
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is with us Charlie's last book, Stop in the Name
of God, Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your life?
A lot more with Erica as we continue nine four
one Sean. If you want to be a part of
the program. Erica Kirk is in studio with us, Charlie's
last book that he finished one month before he was
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sadly taken from us and assassinated and murdered. Maybe his
most important message that he's ever given anybody. And he
talked a lot about politics, he talked about about a
lot about life and dating, and you know, would go
in on a hostile territory and he had an amazing
impact on young people. Along with Erica, who's in studio
with us. It's called Stop in the Name of God,
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Why Honoring the Sabbath will transform your life? I urge
all of you look. You can find it everywhere you
can go to forty five books dot com forty five
books dot com to get your copy, and Erica remains
with us. We're not going to rush through this interview.
We're going to really take our time, if it's okay
with you. So we're talking about how you're doing. You
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have two beautiful children, unbelievable. You said in a recent
interview you would hope, maybe you know after this, that
you were going to have a third.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
We were praying for that.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, we were praying for that. I find things like
that heartbreaking. Your two moments after this assassination that stand
out in my mind about you. One is when you said,
I have to listen to my creator and our savior,
and you know this guy that assassinated Charlie was the
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type of kid that Charlie was trying to reach, and
that you forgive him. That may sound easy, and that's
what our faith teaches us. I don't know if I
would be so quick to want to, I'd probably still
want to. You know, I'm not their neck.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, I understand, you know, I understand.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Because of what they did to such a bright, intelligent, vibrant,
you know young man. He did not deserve this.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's pure evil.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's evil, pure evil. And you said that, and then
you said you had explain this to your children, and
that killed me. And I know you've addressed it a
couple of times, but how are they doing.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
My son is still a little bit too young.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Obviously, children can feel the absence and presence of people
in their life. My daughter is I've been teaching her
how to talk to Daddy if you will, so she
will look up during her prayers, or she'll just say,
you know, Daddy, do you like my dress? Or Daddy,
I miss you, And so I whenever she asked about
how Daddy's doing in heaven, what did he do today,
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I'm always like, baby, you tell me what do you
think he did today in heaven? I try to make
it which it is. Heaven is excited, Heaven is our home.
That's not something that's supposed to be scary or sad.
Charlie is more human and fully himself now than he
ever was down here.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
He is fully complete.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And the irony in this with the book, too, is
that he spent so much time writing and learning about
the Sabbath that now he is truly living the ultimate
Sabbath with our Lord, and so my daughter is doing
the best to be expected. But her and I are
very close and she knows it. As long as that
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she can always talk to Daddy and he's always there
for her.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
You know, when I think of the mystery of heaven,
because we can only imagine, right, remember the song, I know,
if you haven't watched the movie, I can only imagine.
It's a great movie. It's a Christian movie. And if
you know the band Mercy me the lead singer, it's
the story of his life and his father was a monster,
but this monster transformed himself and became a different man.
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It's really worth watching. And I love the song. I
probably we have listened to it a million times in
my life. But in those quiet introspective moments of my
life when I think about heaven, Well, you go to
the Bible. It says the eye has not seen, nor
has the ear heard, nor has it entered into the
hearts of ma'am. What God has you know in store
for those who love the truth? You know? Or Jesus
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on the Cross saying this day you will be with
me in paradise, you know. Or at the end of
my TV show every night, I said, let not your
heart be troubled. It's not an accident. I say it
on purpose. And the verse goes on to say, let
not your heart be trouble. In my father's house are
many mansions, and I go to prepare a place for you,
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so that where I am, you shall also be. And
those that that is the promise to me of Heaven.
And I believe with all my heart, and this book
affirms everything that I believe. That Charlie is there. Does
that give you comfort?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Absolutely? Absolutely? I talk to him all the time every day.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You ever feel him, Oh, you do, always?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Always here is such.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I believe in that type of.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
When you make a covenant with the love of your
life with God, that doesn't just disappear. That love is
so such a burning fire and is such a burning
fire of passion in your heart that no man will
ever separate.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, when you both adopted shabbat okay, which I think
is amazing, and that is disconnecting or or what is
it called? We have the lure of busyness right the
way you spell it in the book, correct, And I thought,
and it's it's a declaration that a man's value is
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not measured by his output and productivity level. But by
his surrender. You wrote those words in the forward to
this book, and then I'm going to go to a
lot of what Charlie said in it, but you practice it,
practice it. So the idea of all of us turning
off our phones and computers and every device we have,
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but most people listening to us is probably Allien. It's like, Okay, Hannity,
you know you've taken this extremism of yours way too far,
but it's not.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I find when I am still is when I'm closest
to God.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
And how are you supposed to hear what the Lord
has to tell you? How are you supposed to break
down and understand the issues of the day, the issues
of your life, when you're being inundated NonStop with the
noise and the chatter, whether that's social media, whether that's
your cell phone. How are you able to fully just
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disconnect so you can hear and be human and just
understand that there is a bigger world out there. There's
a bigger world, and you are supposed to be so
focused on heaven and everything else. Can just wait just
for again, start with a half hour. With a half hour.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I tell people, you know, the Lord's Prayer is the
most powerful to me, and I'm sure you feel the
same way. But if you ever catch yourself and this
is I used to be a Catholic. I won't give
you the long chapter. You know the long story, but
things that happen in the hierarchy of the church at
the local parish level all the way to Rome that
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really turned me off. But if you say the Lord's
Prayer and a lot of times a lot of churches
off other than on, you know, you're not saying it
with heart and meeting. But when I slow myself down,
I try to get through the whole prayer without me
thinking about, oh, I've got to go and I've got
a call, and I've got to do this, and just
I have to get through the whole prayer with full focus.
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That has helped me a lot in my life. That's
that's something you can do daily and then added to
what you and Charlie practice exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And this is not something where again, if you can't
do a full day, build it into your schedule. Charlie
was meticulous about time management. He was down to the
half a second on some days. So if you can
only build it into you know, a half hour or
you know, at home, we would have Bibles open all
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throughout our house. You could just walk right past it
and be able to read just a quick Bible verse
on your way, as long as you're able to incorporate
the Lord within your quote unquote schedule, which should it
should be the opposite your Your schedule should revolve around
the Lord.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You're You're in a good headspace.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
But Charlie knew that this was this was almost a
secret weapon the Sabbath. Honoring the Sabbath was a secret
weapon because it unlocked something inside of you that the
Lord knew would elevate you in a way that no
self help book would.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I'm going to hand you the book, and as you
can see, I destroyed it and I write an ink
all over it. But I did have you autograph it,
and I'm very grateful. I only want these are Charlie's words.
And this is kind of a summation because it would
take me a month to go over every detail of
the book. But it's a nice summation about it. And
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just read what you feel comfortable, you think, and you
can see where I start on that page. And because
i'd rather you read.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
It, I would be honored than me. I would be honored.
The Sabbath is not just a nice idea. It's not
just a rest day for the religious or the nostalgic.
The Sabbath is God's answer to a culture spinning out
of control. It is his ancient rhythm of sanity, planted
like an anchor in a world swept away by currents
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of chaos. Six days, we work, build, create, engage. On
the seventh day, we stop, but not because we're weak.
We stop because we're human. We don't rest because we're lazy.
We rest because we're obedient. The Sabbath is God's resistance
against the machine. It is his weekly reminder that your
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worth is not in your productivity, that your soul cannot
be sustained by screens, and that your body was made
not just for motion, but for stillness, reflection, and worship.
You weren't made to go twenty four to seven. You
weren't created to be reachable at all hours, flooded by headlines, marketing, emails,
and the endless scroll.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Of digital noise. The coming Age will promise freedom.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Through technology, but what it will actually deliver is exhaustion
and enslavement. Everything will be on demand. Everything will be customizable.
The Sabbath cuts through that fog. It calls us back,
It rehumanizes us.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's so I read this book and I feel my
husband so alive.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Talk about putting this into practice as a couple. It.
I have a couple of clips of you guys that
I'm going to get you to react to hate me
after this interview, but I think they're so powerful. I
want to just play because you and Charlie some of
the most beautiful moments in his life were times he
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spent on stage with you. And I want to play
you and Charlie and your notes and asking each other,
how how can I better serve you. I've adopted this,
and I'm a lousy servant, but I try, but I've
the practice is beautiful and I think everybody could learn
from it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
And someone wants to ask me called Charlie, and I
thought we kept our marriage so strong when he was
busy traveling.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
In our little secret there was love notes.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Every Saturday, Charlie wrote one for me, and he never
missed a Saturday, and in every single one of them,
he'd tell me what his highlight.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Was for the week, How grateful he was for me
and our babies.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
And always at the end, he would always end it
with asking the most beautiful question.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
He'd always end it.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
By asking, please let me know how I can better
serve you as a husband. Charlie perfectly understood God's role
for a Christian husband.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
A man who leads so that they can serve.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I mean, how can I better serve you? Now? If
you look at the divorced statistics in the country, and
this is the talk show host to me, I read
all the bad news every day, and how many marriages
would be saved if each partner would ask each other,
how can I serve you? What do you know from me?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I completely agree? And that's what's so that's what's so fascinating,
is that a marriage is not a competition. A marriage
is the most beautiful designed by God love format if
you will, that embodies God's love for us. And I've
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loved being the wife to my husband. I loved knowing
that I was submitting under my husband because he was
submitted under the Lord.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
That is a beautiful, beautiful thing. That that is such
a powerful relationship.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And when you have a relationship like that and you
have a love like that, nothing can.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Take you off.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Course, we were a partnership. We were in lockstep with
the Lord. There was no daylight between us. We shared
everything together. I did not resent him on anything. I
was so proud of him. And any time he had
to work or go travel, I always wanted to make
sure that he had a landing place when he came
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home that he could just and he would say it
to the team.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
He would tell Mikey and everyone all the time.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
This is fine, great, all right, gotta go, gotta get
back home, Erica and the kids, gotta go. And that
to me was so special because I wanted to create
a life for him that he always wanted to come
home to. And he would always ask, yes, how can
I serve you? I would ask him the same thing
all throughout the day. It wasn't just in the letters,
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it was always constantly throughout the day. How can I
better serve you? How can I love you? What can
I do for you? And if we all have that
type of heart posture, regardless of outside of marriage, but
we have a servant's heart, this world would look a
lot different.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It's pretty amazing. And I think that there's I love
the fact that you guys bravely, and that means everybody
with turning Point and Charlie in particular, that you go
into this hostile environment college campuses. I've been in one
or two. I didn't get the exact warmest reception when
I went there over the course of my life when
they're hissing and booing and silencing you, but would bring
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the message that sadly, you know, how often do you
hear on a college campus. Maybe you don't want to
go to the frat parties, I said at the beginning
of this interview. Maybe you don't want to be a
part of hookup culture. Maybe that guy does not really
have your best interest at heart. I remember the conversations
I had with my kids when they were going off
to the college. They're so raw I cannot repeat them
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on air, but it was like, to my son, they
are not this and you're there to serve them, and
they are human beings with feelings, emotions, a heart, and
a soul. That was that's the clean diversion, And to
my daughter is respect yourself. And they might say all
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the right words, but they don't meet him. No, I'm
going to grab the book back, but listen I'm I'm
first of all, you're going to this conversation is continuing
because you're going to join us tonight, Yes on TV.
We're honored to have you both in radio in our
studio here at radio and on TV tonight, Hennity on
the Fox News channel nine o'clock Eastern. You can set
you DVR. Erica Kirk will be with us. I think
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what a final message. The final book. Charlie finished it.
Charlie Kirk finished it just before he was assassinated. Stop
in the name of God while honoring the Sabbath will
transform your life. It's at forty five books dot Com
and everywhere else you'd find books. And I'm glad you're
doing well. I pray for you, Charlie, the children, Turning
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Point and everybody associated with you. And may may God
bless your great mission because it's important to the country.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Thank you, God bless you, and.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
We appreciate you coming by. Erica, Thank you, Thank you.
Next time, maybe not bring Mikey, but I'm just saying,
I'm kidding. Mikey's actually a friend to you. I'm totally joking.
All right, quick break right back, we'll continue. The final
hour roundup is next. You do not want to miss it,
and stay tuned for the final hour free for All
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on the Sean Hannity Show. All right, we'll see Erica
as you will join us tonight on Hannity. Don't forget
you just go to forty five books dot com. It
is stop in the Name of God. Why honoring the
Sabbath will transform your life? Charlie Kirk his last book
that he just finished about a month before he was assassinated.
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Erica will join us tonight on Hannity when we come
back over one billion dollars in medicaid fraud. The person
that knows more about this than anyone else in the
country is doctor memon Oz. He will join us coming
up on the other side as we continue
Thanks gotsh on an hour two Sean Hennity Show. Toll
free our telephone numbers eight hundred and nine to four
one Seawn if you want to be a part of
the program. I'm in New York today, only the second
day this year, and I'm here for a really important reason,
Turning point and Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk have have
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created something that is so phenomenal that it played a
huge role in my opinion in the twenty twenty four election.
And what was the mission is that they went into
hostile territory college campuses and they would talk to young people,
and all of a sudden, they would talk about rejecting
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hookup culture. Not exactly the most common thing that you
hear in a college campus. They would talk about, maybe
you don't want to be the kid that goes to
the frat party and you're throwing up in the bushes
later on that night. Maybe want to make different choices
in your life. Maybe you know we are mind, body,
and spirit, and maybe we were all into work and
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now we're all into maha and getting healthy. Maybe you
need to nurture the spiritual side of your life. And
it also became a movement. And the sad part is
is kids were not hearing this message on a college campus,
you know, which is supposed to be a bastion of
learning and where the free, open exchange of ideas and
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ideals and principles and opinions take place. We lost Charlie
too young, and when he passed, I said, that was
the magic of Charlie. And then I spent a lot
of time with my fiance. We were watching a lot
of tapes of Charlie and Charlie and Erica and their
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relationship and the things that they did to strengthen their partnership,
and which is very honored to have in the studio.
Erica Kirk is with us Charlie's last book and he
finished it about a month before he was assassinated. Is
called Stop in the Name of God. Why honoring the
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Sabbath will transform your life? And if you watch The Chosen,
which I've watched start to finish probably six times, because
I get more out of it every time I watch it.
I'm obsessed with it, you know, Shabatra lom or right,
which is a big part of it. But anyway, Erica,
it's great to see you. Thank you for being here.
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I'm glad you did publish Charlie's last work. He had
just finished it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
He did thank you for having me Sean.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You are such a blessing and such a dear friend
to myself but also to my husband.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
He loved you, I loved him, loved you. I respected him.
I told the story on the air that I was
so after all this happened, and I thought back, I
was so glad. I got to ran into him while
I was going into the White House to interview the President,
and he was at the same gate when I was
at I'm like, Charlie, I hadn't seen him in a while,
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and I got to pull him aside. I said, I
want to thank you for all that you did, because
he motivated all these young people to want to get
involved in politics, and both of you did that.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, I was so proud of him.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And I will never forget the day that it was
election night, and how nervous but cautiously optimistic he was.
He was so prayerful that whole day. And we were
actually talking about this last night. How when it was
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just about to be announced, it was radio silent, and
then Cliff on the live stream was freaking out because
he was streaming it and he's like, this is not normal.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You're not supposed to have silence on radio or on
any thing.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And he just went right in and I ran over
to Charlie, wrapped my arms around him, gave him the
biggest kiss. I was so proud of him because everyone
can see him on his radio show, and I know
Ainsley knows this too. With you, everyone can see you
working so hard and during the day, but when you
get home and it's just you and your love of
your life, and they see how hard you work, and
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you come home and you're just able to bear it
all and be like I just need to rest and
breathe for a second. And they're in that place where
they can do that and share their heart. I got
to see it amplified even more so during that season
of time, and I was so proud of him because
he worked so hard, all the campus visits, the whole team,
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everyone worked. There was not a nine to five. It
was just full mission focused. We have to deliver the
youth vote. Everyone else can focus on everything else. Charlie's mission.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I don't grandma Grandpa vote, I mean the older people vote.
I wanted everybody to take the team. My message was simple,
assume that your vote, especially in all the swing states,
would be the deciding vote in that state.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And that was my message even going into the Tennessee
Congressional seven race. It was the same thing. The thing
that I regret I have a regret in terms of
my relationship with Charlie is I did not talk to
him about the things that the two of you often
talked about in front of children, and that is your faith,
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your deep abiding faith. And if I was going to
have a last word, and I've been doing this since
before you were born nineteen have we born before? In
nineteen eighty seven? I was eighty eight. I started in
radio before you were born. Okay, so that's not long.
Everyone in there is dying, they're laughing. But I have
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a passion and the minute this silly light went on,
it transformed my life. And that's all I want to
to do. And I did it for free, and then
I did it for next to no money, and it happened.
But if I had a last breath, I'd want it
to be Charlie's message in this book and I because
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what you're saying here is you both adopted the Sabbath,
and that means sunset Friday, all the phones are off,
all the connection to the world is off, and you
wouldn't put it back on till the next night when
the sun went down again. That's like twenty four straight hours.
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And Charlie addresses all of this in the book. And
even as you can see, I like tore this book apart.
I read every page and I want you to explain
to people how you practice it, how it impacted your life,
because the idea of disconnecting, especially among young people, is
like unimaginable.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Foreign It's totally a foreign concept.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So Charlie is the type of person where when he
is all in, he is all in. He will he
if he finds a topic he is fascinated about, he
will research it till there's no other book that's left
to read about it. And so we probably have fifty
plus books at our home in on our bookshelf about
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the Sabbath. He wanted to learn everything he could. And
it's because when prior to honoring the Sabbath, he knew
that he was on the precipice of burnout and that
horrified him because he that's not he There is no
stopping for my husband. And so he'd went on a
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total deep dive and realized after reading the Bible multiple
times honoring the Sabbath, honoring the Sabbath, and in Exodus
and Deuteronomy, one is about honoring the Sabbath because it'll
set you free, and the other is because God rested
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as well. So rest isn't a weakness. And our culture
views rest as a weakness, but it's a productive rest,
it's not a rest. And I go and watch you know,
Seinfeld all day, Love Seinfeld. Charlie's favorite two TV shows
were Seinfeld and Fraser.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I thought I was gonna guess curby your enthusiasm and
I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Seinfeld and Fraser. And so for him, he'd come home.
He started off very slow at first. It was a
half hour a day for half hour for the weekend.
But every single time he would turn his phone off
and he would put it in the junk drawer, close
the junctraor and say Shabat shalom. The reason he said
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that was not because of that's what you're supposed to say.
He Charlie was also very fascinated with brain health and
to him, especially since both him and I played sports.
We understood this. And for anyone out there listening who's
played sports, you get this. There's a sports psychology method
of when when you're at the free throw line or
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you're about to start a game, you have a trigger word.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Within yourself of to get focused.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't care if that's game on or if let's
go like, you have that one word that gets you
in that mental state of it's go time. And so
for Charlie, he had those words, and so for him,
Shabat shalom, go time.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I'm with the Lord.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
That was almost like a declaration to the enemy, you
cannot enter my brain space. I am here to make
a declaration with vocally, with my heart and soul that
I am going to take X amount of hours. Again,
it started off which is a half hour an hour
to full days, which then eventually went to turning the
phone on on Sunday morning. But he did that because
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it was a declaration to the end to me. You
will try and come after me. You'll try and come
after my brain, You'll try and come after my heart.
But I am disconnecting from this echo chamber in this world,
and I'm focusing on God, my family, my children, and
that was it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
He would read, he would research, he would spend time
with the Lord, he would go hiking with with the kids.
He it was special to him. It was his time
to reset. And I know that he told this to
the team all the time. He would say, if you
refuse or if you decide not to honor the Sabbath,
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it is you who is missing out on that gift
that God is giving to you, not the other way around.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
He was a really good salesman in the book. In
this way, He's like he overcame every objection everybody, every
excuse that everybody could come up with. And I'm like,
going through the list, I'm like, guilty, yilty, guilty.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm too busy. I don't have time.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What if the president tries to me, that's a valid
thing for.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Him, It's valid for me to.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Do right exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
He's a real thing, you get it. And the President
I have talked to him every hour on the twenty
four hour day clock, and and he talks. He said
he'd love to sleep. I'm like, I love to sleep more.
Leading into that election, I was sleeping maybe an hour
and a half two hours a night for six months.
I mean, I just threw my heart into it. We're
all doing our part. We're all like spokes on a
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wheel exactly. I want to stay on this and go
back to this, but I don't want to be negligent either,
And it really broke my heart when I saw what happened.
I know you've answered a lot of the questions. I'm
not going to ask you questions I know you've been
asked before. But what I want to know is, how
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are you doing now? Because all of a sudden everyone's
in your life. Then slowly but surely, reality begins to
set it in. You find a few nights where you're
alone and it's you and the kids, and then you
know it dawns. It really reality strikes and everyone mourns differently.
And how are you doing? How are the children doing?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I appreciate that question.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
It's it's interesting because my situation is beyond a one
of one.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
There is no blueprint for this.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I my husband's murder was so public, the analysis of
my reactions by the world has been so public. It
has been one of the most humbling, fascinating, painful, interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Moments of my life. And you're absolutely right. You really
do see who's in your corner. But you also find.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
People in your life that you never even knew existed
that are reaching out trying to just tell you that
this has really humanized them.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And I have been at that side.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
To me has been very fascinating because who am I
to judge someone's road to Damascus When something like this,
as it should, rock people to their core.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Political violence is never a solution. It's never the answer.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And if they thought that they were going to silence
my husband, they did the exact opposite. Not even just
awakening aside in me that will become absolutely relentless on
making sure my husband's message is never forgotten, and turning
Point USA becomes something this world has never even seen before.
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But it also has sparked this incredible revival of people
that are realizing, Okay, this is not right at all,
and it has humanized me in a way where I
am starting to know more about the Lord, I am
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buying a Bible, I am curious about what Charlie had
to say. And so for me, when you ask how
are we doing, you can say, well, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
How is she doing it?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
She's a mom and now she's running Turning Point USA.
And now she's running Turning Point action. How is she
able to do this?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Easy?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Quick answered God, of course, my faith. We do not
mourn like the rest of the world. I don't have
time for that. But Turning Point USA is not just
an organization to me. They are my family. Those students,
they're like an extension of.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Children for me.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Even Mikey, even Mikey Studio with us family, Mikey McCoy
has pastor McCoy's who married you. We're gonna take a break,
we'll come back on the other side. We'll pick up.
We'll talk more about how this impacted you personally, We'll
talk about your children. But more importantly, I'm just urging
everybody this should be a must read book. And I'm
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speaking from my heart here. We don't nourish our spiritual
side enough. And if you could practice what Charlie The
message that Charlie's were laying in is in what really
is his final book, his final message to us stop
in the name of God. Why Honoring the Sabbath will
transform your life. When you're finished reading it, it will
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be very real to you. And maybe you don't do
it completely, but if you take some of the advice.
It will transform your life. Anyway, you can go to
forty five book dot com or you can go to
Hannity dot com. We'll link to forty five books dot
com also Amazon dot com and bookstores now all across
the country. Will continue on the other side, Erica Kirk
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is with us Charlie's last book, Stop in the Name
of God, Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your life?
A lot more with Erica as we continue nine four
one Sean. If you want to be a part of
the program. Erica Kirk is in studio with us, Charlie's
last book that he finished one month before he was
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sadly taken from us and assassinated and murdered. Maybe his
most important message that he's ever given anybody. And he
talked a lot about politics, he talked about about a
lot about life and dating, and you know, would go
in on a hostile territory and he had an amazing
impact on young people. Along with Erica, who's in studio
with us. It's called Stop in the Name of God,
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Why Honoring the Sabbath will transform your life? I urge
all of you look. You can find it everywhere you
can go to forty five books dot com forty five
books dot com to get your copy, and Erica remains
with us. We're not going to rush through this interview.
We're going to really take our time, if it's okay
with you. So we're talking about how you're doing. You
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have two beautiful children, unbelievable. You said in a recent
interview you would hope, maybe you know after this, that
you were going to have a third.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
We were praying for that.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, we were praying for that. I find things like
that heartbreaking. Your two moments after this assassination that stand
out in my mind about you. One is when you said,
I have to listen to my creator and our savior,
and you know this guy that assassinated Charlie was the
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type of kid that Charlie was trying to reach, and
that you forgive him. That may sound easy, and that's
what our faith teaches us. I don't know if I
would be so quick to want to, I'd probably still
want to. You know, I'm not their neck.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, I understand, you know, I understand.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Because of what they did to such a bright, intelligent, vibrant,
you know young man. He did not deserve this.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's pure evil.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's evil, pure evil. And you said that, and then
you said you had explain this to your children, and
that killed me. And I know you've addressed it a
couple of times, but how are they doing.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
My son is still a little bit too young.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Obviously, children can feel the absence and presence of people
in their life. My daughter is I've been teaching her
how to talk to Daddy if you will, so she
will look up during her prayers, or she'll just say,
you know, Daddy, do you like my dress? Or Daddy,
I miss you, And so I whenever she asked about
how Daddy's doing in heaven, what did he do today,
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I'm always like, baby, you tell me what do you
think he did today in heaven? I try to make
it which it is. Heaven is excited, Heaven is our home.
That's not something that's supposed to be scary or sad.
Charlie is more human and fully himself now than he
ever was down here.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
He is fully complete.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And the irony in this with the book, too, is
that he spent so much time writing and learning about
the Sabbath that now he is truly living the ultimate
Sabbath with our Lord, and so my daughter is doing
the best to be expected. But her and I are
very close and she knows it. As long as that
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she can always talk to Daddy and he's always there
for her.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
You know, when I think of the mystery of heaven,
because we can only imagine, right, remember the song, I know,
if you haven't watched the movie, I can only imagine.
It's a great movie. It's a Christian movie. And if
you know the band Mercy me the lead singer, it's
the story of his life and his father was a monster,
but this monster transformed himself and became a different man.
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It's really worth watching. And I love the song. I
probably we have listened to it a million times in
my life. But in those quiet introspective moments of my
life when I think about heaven, Well, you go to
the Bible. It says the eye has not seen, nor
has the ear heard, nor has it entered into the
hearts of ma'am. What God has you know in store
for those who love the truth? You know? Or Jesus
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on the Cross saying this day you will be with
me in paradise, you know. Or at the end of
my TV show every night, I said, let not your
heart be troubled. It's not an accident. I say it
on purpose. And the verse goes on to say, let
not your heart be trouble. In my father's house are
many mansions, and I go to prepare a place for you,
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so that where I am, you shall also be. And
those that that is the promise to me of Heaven.
And I believe with all my heart, and this book
affirms everything that I believe. That Charlie is there. Does
that give you comfort?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Absolutely? Absolutely? I talk to him all the time every day.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You ever feel him, Oh, you do, always?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Always here is such.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I believe in that type of.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
When you make a covenant with the love of your
life with God, that doesn't just disappear. That love is
so such a burning fire and is such a burning
fire of passion in your heart that no man will
ever separate.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, when you both adopted shabbat okay, which I think
is amazing, and that is disconnecting or or what is
it called? We have the lure of busyness right the
way you spell it in the book, correct, And I thought,
and it's it's a declaration that a man's value is
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not measured by his output and productivity level. But by
his surrender. You wrote those words in the forward to
this book, and then I'm going to go to a
lot of what Charlie said in it, but you practice it,
practice it. So the idea of all of us turning
off our phones and computers and every device we have,
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but most people listening to us is probably Allien. It's like, Okay, Hannity,
you know you've taken this extremism of yours way too far,
but it's not.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I find when I am still is when I'm closest
to God.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
And how are you supposed to hear what the Lord
has to tell you? How are you supposed to break
down and understand the issues of the day, the issues
of your life, when you're being inundated NonStop with the
noise and the chatter, whether that's social media, whether that's
your cell phone. How are you able to fully just
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disconnect so you can hear and be human and just
understand that there is a bigger world out there. There's
a bigger world, and you are supposed to be so
focused on heaven and everything else. Can just wait just
for again, start with a half hour. With a half hour.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I tell people, you know, the Lord's Prayer is the
most powerful to me, and I'm sure you feel the
same way. But if you ever catch yourself and this
is I used to be a Catholic. I won't give
you the long chapter. You know the long story, but
things that happen in the hierarchy of the church at
the local parish level all the way to Rome that
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really turned me off. But if you say the Lord's
Prayer and a lot of times a lot of churches
off other than on, you know, you're not saying it
with heart and meeting. But when I slow myself down,
I try to get through the whole prayer without me
thinking about, oh, I've got to go and I've got
a call, and I've got to do this, and just
I have to get through the whole prayer with full focus.
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That has helped me a lot in my life. That's
that's something you can do daily and then added to
what you and Charlie practice exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And this is not something where again, if you can't
do a full day, build it into your schedule. Charlie
was meticulous about time management. He was down to the
half a second on some days. So if you can
only build it into you know, a half hour or
you know, at home, we would have Bibles open all
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throughout our house. You could just walk right past it
and be able to read just a quick Bible verse
on your way, as long as you're able to incorporate
the Lord within your quote unquote schedule, which should it
should be the opposite your Your schedule should revolve around
the Lord.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You're You're in a good headspace.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
But Charlie knew that this was this was almost a
secret weapon the Sabbath. Honoring the Sabbath was a secret
weapon because it unlocked something inside of you that the
Lord knew would elevate you in a way that no
self help book would.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I'm going to hand you the book, and as you
can see, I destroyed it and I write an ink
all over it. But I did have you autograph it,
and I'm very grateful. I only want these are Charlie's words.
And this is kind of a summation because it would
take me a month to go over every detail of
the book. But it's a nice summation about it. And
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just read what you feel comfortable, you think, and you
can see where I start on that page. And because
i'd rather you read.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
It, I would be honored than me. I would be honored.
The Sabbath is not just a nice idea. It's not
just a rest day for the religious or the nostalgic.
The Sabbath is God's answer to a culture spinning out
of control. It is his ancient rhythm of sanity, planted
like an anchor in a world swept away by currents
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of chaos. Six days, we work, build, create, engage. On
the seventh day, we stop, but not because we're weak.
We stop because we're human. We don't rest because we're lazy.
We rest because we're obedient. The Sabbath is God's resistance
against the machine. It is his weekly reminder that your
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worth is not in your productivity, that your soul cannot
be sustained by screens, and that your body was made
not just for motion, but for stillness, reflection, and worship.
You weren't made to go twenty four to seven. You
weren't created to be reachable at all hours, flooded by headlines, marketing, emails,
and the endless scroll.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Of digital noise. The coming Age will promise freedom.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Through technology, but what it will actually deliver is exhaustion
and enslavement. Everything will be on demand. Everything will be customizable.
The Sabbath cuts through that fog. It calls us back,
It rehumanizes us.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's so I read this book and I feel my
husband so alive.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Talk about putting this into practice as a couple. It.
I have a couple of clips of you guys that
I'm going to get you to react to hate me
after this interview, but I think they're so powerful. I
want to just play because you and Charlie some of
the most beautiful moments in his life were times he
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spent on stage with you. And I want to play
you and Charlie and your notes and asking each other,
how how can I better serve you. I've adopted this,
and I'm a lousy servant, but I try, but I've
the practice is beautiful and I think everybody could learn
from it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
And someone wants to ask me called Charlie, and I
thought we kept our marriage so strong when he was
busy traveling.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
In our little secret there was love notes.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Every Saturday, Charlie wrote one for me, and he never
missed a Saturday, and in every single one of them,
he'd tell me what his highlight.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Was for the week, How grateful he was for me
and our babies.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
And always at the end, he would always end it
with asking the most beautiful question.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
He'd always end it.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
By asking, please let me know how I can better
serve you as a husband. Charlie perfectly understood God's role
for a Christian husband.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
A man who leads so that they can serve.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I mean, how can I better serve you? Now? If
you look at the divorced statistics in the country, and
this is the talk show host to me, I read
all the bad news every day, and how many marriages
would be saved if each partner would ask each other,
how can I serve you? What do you know from me?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I completely agree? And that's what's so that's what's so fascinating,
is that a marriage is not a competition. A marriage
is the most beautiful designed by God love format if
you will, that embodies God's love for us. And I've
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loved being the wife to my husband. I loved knowing
that I was submitting under my husband because he was
submitted under the Lord.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
That is a beautiful, beautiful thing. That that is such
a powerful relationship.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And when you have a relationship like that and you
have a love like that, nothing can.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Take you off.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Course, we were a partnership. We were in lockstep with
the Lord. There was no daylight between us. We shared
everything together. I did not resent him on anything. I
was so proud of him. And any time he had
to work or go travel, I always wanted to make
sure that he had a landing place when he came
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home that he could just and he would say it
to the team.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
He would tell Mikey and everyone all the time.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
This is fine, great, all right, gotta go, gotta get
back home, Erica and the kids, gotta go. And that
to me was so special because I wanted to create
a life for him that he always wanted to come
home to. And he would always ask, yes, how can
I serve you? I would ask him the same thing
all throughout the day. It wasn't just in the letters,
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it was always constantly throughout the day. How can I
better serve you? How can I love you? What can
I do for you? And if we all have that
type of heart posture, regardless of outside of marriage, but
we have a servant's heart, this world would look a
lot different.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
It's pretty amazing. And I think that there's I love
the fact that you guys bravely, and that means everybody
with turning Point and Charlie in particular, that you go
into this hostile environment college campuses. I've been in one
or two. I didn't get the exact warmest reception when
I went there over the course of my life when
they're hissing and booing and silencing you, but would bring
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the message that sadly, you know, how often do you
hear on a college campus. Maybe you don't want to
go to the frat parties, I said at the beginning
of this interview. Maybe you don't want to be a
part of hookup culture. Maybe that guy does not really
have your best interest at heart. I remember the conversations
I had with my kids when they were going off
to the college. They're so raw I cannot repeat them
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on air, but it was like, to my son, they
are not this and you're there to serve them, and
they are human beings with feelings, emotions, a heart, and
a soul. That was that's the clean diversion, And to
my daughter is respect yourself. And they might say all
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the right words, but they don't meet him. No, I'm
going to grab the book back, but listen I'm I'm
first of all, you're going to this conversation is continuing
because you're going to join us tonight, Yes on TV.
We're honored to have you both in radio in our
studio here at radio and on TV tonight, Hennity on
the Fox News channel nine o'clock Eastern. You can set
you DVR. Erica Kirk will be with us. I think
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what a final message. The final book. Charlie finished it.
Charlie Kirk finished it just before he was assassinated. Stop
in the name of God while honoring the Sabbath will
transform your life. It's at forty five books dot Com
and everywhere else you'd find books. And I'm glad you're
doing well. I pray for you, Charlie, the children, Turning
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Point and everybody associated with you. And may may God
bless your great mission because it's important to the country.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Thank you, God bless you, and.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
We appreciate you coming by. Erica, Thank you, Thank you.
Next time, maybe not bring Mikey, but I'm just saying,
I'm kidding. Mikey's actually a friend to you. I'm totally joking.
All right, quick break right back, we'll continue. The final
hour roundup is next. You do not want to miss it,
and stay tuned for the final hour free for All
(33:14):
on the Sean Hannity Show. All right, we'll see Erica
as you will join us tonight on Hannity. Don't forget
you just go to forty five books dot com. It
is stop in the Name of God. Why honoring the
Sabbath will transform your life? Charlie Kirk his last book
that he just finished about a month before he was assassinated.
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Erica will join us tonight on Hannity when we come
back over one billion dollars in medicaid fraud. The person
that knows more about this than anyone else in the
country is doctor memon Oz. He will join us coming
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