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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, and welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. My name
is Rose and guess what, they invited me back again.
So I'm really happy because I love Sean's audience. Glad
to be here with you. You guys are awesome. Sean
is in China with President Trump. I don't know if
you saw this, but they literally rolled out the red
carpet for him, such fanfare, and it's great. We'll talk
about that later in the show, but it was a
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lovely thing to behold. Linda talked to Sean earlier today
and we're going to be bringing you that information in
that interview at four o'clock. But in the meantime, I'd
like to talk about where conviction meets calling and whether
freedom is worth the cut. No, I think it is,
But why don't you think about that for a while,
because when I think about America, I think about it
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as more than a place. It's the idea that greatness
doesn't come from a ruling class, but from ordinary people
carrying extraordinary dreams. Our founders understood that the only way
to unleash the power of individuals to let them be free,
and in their wisdom, they understood that the answer to
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the human condition was liberty protected by the rule of law.
And that's what made America America. It wasn't just their
rocky mountains or the fruited plains. It's not our lakes,
our rivers, wind swept shores. I mean, those are all great,
but it was an idea. And once that idea is lost,
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I suggest that America would be lost as well. And
all that's necessary to keep the republic is never forget
what made this country great in the first place, and
that was liberty. You only have to look at politics
right now, academia, media, law to see that the American
idea has been gradually fading from our memories. That's why
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this generation really does carry responsibility not only to remember liberty,
but to protect it. The men and women who built
this nation understood something extraordinary that they would never fully
enjoy the benefits of their sacrifices because they knew when
they were doing it that what they built they were
building for people they would never meet. That to took
courage and conviction. The forge a nation designed to stand
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against the tyranny of concentrated power. They risk their own lives,
their livelihoods, their fortunes so that generations still unborn to
live in freedom. Now that responsibility belongs to us. This year,
I know, we celebrate two hundred and fifty years of
the Declaration of Independence, but you know what, this year
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also marks the two hundred and thirty eighth anniversary of
the ratification of the Constitution, the document framed in Philadelphia.
It was in seventeen eighty seven, after months of fierce
debate among all fifty five delegates, determined to create a
constitutional and federal republic that would be strong enough to endure,
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but restrained enough to preserve liberty. That same since just
eleven years earlier, as we've talked about yesterday, gave birth
to the Declaration of Independence. And while those two documents
are often spoken about together, they were never meant to
do the same job. The Declaration tells us why America exists.
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It declared that our rights do not come from government,
but from God, that every person is created with inherent
dignity and liberty no ruler can rightfully take away. But
the Declaration alone could not sustain a nation. And that's
where the Constitution comes in. If the Declaration is the why,
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the Constitution is the how it transforms principle into structure,
established laws, checks and balances, and limits on power so
freedom can survive beyond a single generation. They did a
heck of a job, didn't they. My boy gets challenged
every day. One document declares freedom, the other one protects it.
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And together they formed the backbone of a nation built
not merely on independence, but on the responsibility of governing
freedom wisely. See this is important. We needed both. That's
why the Constitution still matters so much today, because there
was always going to be pressure, subtle and direct, for
government to expand its own authority rather than protect the
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liberty of the people. But there is something deeper that
we've got to understand if we are fully going to
grasp what made this nation possible in the first place.
Because America didn't begin with political ideas, It began with
a moral formation. Because long before independence was declared, the
American colonies were already being shaped by something quieter but
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more powerful than politics alone, and that was a spiritual awakening.
You could go all across the colonies. Sermons filled churches
and the meetinghouses. Ministers talk not only of salvation, but
of responsibility, of virtue and conscience and accountability. Before God.
And see that was the belief that took root, that
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liberty without moral restraint could not survive for long. So
if you want to know why it survived as long
as it has, it's because of that moral restraint, because
of a moral formation. In other words, self government required
self governance. And this is where the American experiment becomes unique.
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The founders didn't believe freedom meant the absence of structure.
They believe freedom required a people capable of governing themselves
because they understood a higher moral order. And that's where
the declacaration of is so powerful. It doesn't begin with government,
it begins with truth that rights are not granted by
kings or legislatures, but are endowed by the Creator. Now
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that belief changes every because if rights come from God,
then government is never the source of liberty, only it's steward.
And if government is only a steward, then its powers
must always be limited. I mean, that's the philosophy underneath
everything that we inherited, not just political design, but moral conviction.
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And that's precisely why the Constitution matters. It's not simply
a legal framework, it's the structure built to preserve a
moral idea in a political system that will always be
under pressure to drift. As I said, one declares freedom,
the other protects it, but both both rest on something deeper,
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the belief that free people must also be a responsible people,
because when that responsibility fades, the structure alone is not enough.
And so the question isn't whether we understand the constitution.
The question is whether we still understand the moral found
that made it possible. And that, my friends, is what
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keeps getting chipped away at constantly because without that foundation,
and those who love socialism, by the way, in communism,
they understand this better than we do. Without that moral foundation,
even the best designed republic eventually weakens from within. The
parent of America isn't just institutional, it's moral, spiritual, generational,
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and it must be renewed in character. So the real
question is do we still believe that freedom requires something
of us, not just rights to defend, but responsibilities for
us to actually live out. Because that is what made
this nation possible in the first place, not just ideas
on paper, but people willing to live as though those
ideas were true. And one of the most urgent responsibilities
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we face today isn't just preserving the ideas of this nation,
but passing them on because that next generation doesn't understand
where America came from, we'll never understand what it's meant
to be. And right now, too many young people are
being shaped by fragments of history instead of the full story.
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If they're taught anything at all about our history, important
context is often reduced, it's simplified. They find ways to
filter it in ways that leave out the very principles
that made this country unique in the first place. And
since that responsibility no longer rests in the classrooms, you
know it, and I know it, it's got to rest
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in homes and in families, in our communities, and in
our voices, willing to speak truth clearly, in consistency, pass
it on to the next generation, because no one else
is going to do it if we don't. If history
isn't fully taught, it's got to be intentionally remembered and
passed down. Because a nation that forgets its story, I
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gotta tell you, is can eventually forget its identity. And
you can even see that right now, the shadows of that.
And we believe the ideas of liberty and self government
and respect. I feel like that guy on the commercial
liberty liberty. We believe the ideas of liberty, self government,
and responsibility are worth preserving, then we also have to
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be willing to ensure our children know exactly what those
ideas cost, why they matter, and what happens when they're lost.
This is so important and we can't count on anyone
else doing this job for us but ourselves. And if
you're a parent right now, a grandparent, that's your responsibility.
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We owe it. We owe it to those brave men
and women who did all that they could for us.
And I love when we break down that Constitution and
we remember this is about something that began with moral formation.
It is a moral restraint. If you can't have that
liberty without that moral restraint. I just had to get
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that off my chest today, So thanks for letting me
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the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose. By the way,
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I'd love to take your phone calls today. I think
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it's this Afternoon is going to air at four o'clock hour,
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Make sure you tune into the Sean Hannity TV Show
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as well, but at four we'll hear from him then too.
You know, yesterday we had new Gingridge on and we
talked a little bit about the midterm elections, and it
appears that American voters don't they're not so keen on
Democrats at this time, and according that's according to our
recent CNN poll, because the numbers show that Democrats are
slipping as each tay goes by and Republicans are gearing
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up for the twenty twenty six midterm election, and in
some cases, if you look at certain pulling, they are
actually growing stronger. CNN reported that registered voters are now
closely split in their partisan preference ahead of the midterms.
That's actually good news. One of the things, though, that
new Gingridge talked about yesterday was branding. He felt that
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we could really have a strong victory if we branded
correctly and we messaged. But here's the thing. I remember
the first term that Donald Trump had White House, and
you could I was doing a lot of radio at
the time. I mean I was full time radio, and
I would be able to go to a number of
sources to find out what he did today. And I
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mean there is a list of his accomplishments the first
hundred days. Beyond the first hundred days, I mean, it
was easy to see and to find what it was
he was doing. Now, I know that he's still doing
things right now, but they're not making it as available
to everyone as they once did. And I feel like
that is so important right now. We need to talk
about the positive all of the things that he's been
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doing that are benefiting the American people, I mean just
taxes alone. So I feel like the branding and the
messaging could be a little stronger. In fact, that is
what New Ginger's talked about as being necessary for a
victory in the fall. So I'm just hoping I've got
my fingers crossed that they do a little better job
of that. They did an amazing job first time around.
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It really was easy to find out. But Republicans are
still trying to simplify their message going into the midterms.
Even Jim Jordan spoke about that during an appearance on
breip Art News Daily I saw. The host asked him
how Republicans could win the mid terms, especially since the
party in power usually faces that uphill battle. You know it,
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they've talked about that before, but Representative Jordan answered by
boiling it down to what he called two sentences. They're crazy,
We're not. Yeah they are. So another great thing would
be is to point all the crazy out and you
would think it would be obvious. It's so obvious to
most of us, But there's so many on the left
that just aren't getting it. So yeah, let's point out
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they're crazy, we're not. And he said that Republicans simply
need to make that contrast clear to the American people.
So I think it should be easy, but they are crazy,
and in fact, President Trump said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
JD. Vance was talking today, and we're going to get
too into this a little bit more later in the program,
but one of the things he talked about I noticed
towards the end when he was taking questions, the Dream
Team came up. And you've even heard President Trump talk
about the Dream Team, and when he talks about the
Dream Team, he talks about Marco Rubio and JD. Vance
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And I have to tell you, personally, it's just fun
to watch just how much I've always liked Marco Rubio,
but he has really grown and he's just really shown
himself to be quite the statesman. But I have some
information and it's really hitting the social media platforms really strong.
Right now, going back to twenty fifteen on some of
the things that Rubio said that we're very precient. So
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we're going to talk about that, we'll talk about the
Dream Team, all of that coming up. One eight hundred
nine four to one, Shawn one eight hundred nine four
one Shawn one, eight hundred nine to four one. Shawn
call me. I'd love to hear from you today. This
is the Sean Handedy Show. My name is Rose. Welcome
back to the Sean Handedy Show. My name is Rose.
Sitting in for him today. But while Sewan is in China,
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he is calling in and Linda's going to interview him
at four o'clock today, so look forward to that. But
in the meantime, joining us right now is Fox News
Legal an analyst and New York Times best selling author
Greg Jarrett to offer his perspective on shooter Cole Allen
and a few other items on my list. Welcome Greg,
How are you?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah? Fine, Road's good to be with you.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah. I love talking to you, I really do. There's
so many things I want to ask you about, but
let's start with Cole Allen because a lot of Americans
are watching the prosecution really closely, and it's not just
because of the allegations, but because of the growing controversy
that's been surrounding the DOJ and the court proceedings and
the defense. Once Todd Blanche and Janine pra Piro removed
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from the case because they attended the White House correspondence
diinner legally, Greg how strong is that argument? And does
and by the way, and does simply being present at
the event create a real conflict of interest?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Really does Dan, It's a pretty weak argument. Look, the
rules of ethics call for recusal on two grounds, if
they have speaking of Todd, Blanche and Janine, or if
they have a personal or political involvement in the case,
or if they have a substantial interest in the outcome
because of a connection to it. But understand that a
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potential conflict is not necessarily disqualifying if the attorneys can
still be fair and impartial, and the legal standard is
that there has to be clear evidence of a conflict
to disqualify. Now, it's true that Pirou and Blanche were
inside the ballroom, but the shooting occurred outside the ballroom,
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so they're not witnesses anything, despite what defense counsel is claiming. Now,
are they biased in some way because they could have
been targeted eval and gain access. That's pretty debatable because
the same charges would be brought regardless, which I think
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is why the defense is sort of resorted to the
last claim of, well, there's an appearance of a conflict
that might affect the public's perception of impartiality. I don't
think it's going to work. But even if the court
rules that there is a conflict, it doesn't really affect
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the case. Piro and Todd would be recused. Other top
lawyers in the US Attorney's Office in DC would prosecute
Cole Allen. If the entire office is disqualified, which I
seriously doubt, then you simply transfer it to a different
US attorney in a nearby jurisdiction they'd prosecute him. Or
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you could also appoint a special prosecutor. The fact of
the matter is Cole Allen doesn't have a defense. He
incriminated himself in photographs and a confessional. He laid out
how he planned a mass murder and the assassination of
top officials, eyewitnesses, his video of what he did. So
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he's going to get convicted. His attorneys right now are
just trying to do anything they can to disrupt the prosecution.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Now that makes sense, but you know, right now a
lot of conservatives watching all of this, and they're asking
themselves whether Americans, if we can still trust the justice
system to operate without politics influencing outcomes. And I just wonder,
do you think that this case is intensifying those concerns
or is it just business as usual?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Well, I you know, given the Russia hoax, the law
fair campaign against Donald Trump, the conspiracies to deprive him
of rights, I mean, it is so blatant, and it
happened over a long period of time that it's no
wonder that Americans have lost faith in our legal system.
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They have seen with their own eyes compelling evidence of
the two tiered system of justice. You know, Joe Biden
can keep classified documents, but Donald Trump can't. Biden doesn't
get prosecuted, but Donald Trump does. Americans are pretty smart.
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They see this for what it is. It's crooked and corrupt.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, and I feel like it's another This case could
just become another major flashpoint when we have a debate
over fairness and consistency with the American justice system, because
particularly when you have a judge apologizing for detention conditions,
I mean, that was clearly not appropriate. President Trump weighed
in on that, and we know of stories in the
past how the conditions were bad for others that were
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detained and yet nothing was said from the bench.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Right, Well, it was outrageous and stupid for this magistrate
to apologize. He doesn't seem to comprehend that Cole Allen
was treated as anybody would in a serious case like that.
You put him in a safe cell under observation make
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sure he can't harm himself, because there's an affirmative duty
imposed on the government under the eighth Amendment of the
Constitution to make sure it doesn't harm himself. And if
he had harmed himself, then you know, the same lawyers
complaining about the safe cell would have said, you know,
why didn't you put him in a safer cell? So
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you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
And I also understand that the guy who apologized isn't
even a real judge. He's not an Article three judge
appointed by the federal by the President of the Federal Bench. No,
he's a magistrate, which is a guy who handles sort
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of you know, arraignments and bail hearings and petty matters
that real judges, district court judges don't want to be
bothered with. So he's nothing more than a hired assistant
and this particular magistrate has a long and distinguished record
of liberal dei causes, and it's not the first time
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he's apologized to somebody in custody.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
You know, I know you're not a psychologist or a psychiatrist,
but you got to ask the question. If a guy
puts himself all over social media and I'm talking about
cold right now, and he clearly does he really believe
he could get away with something like this? What kind
of person? It just astounds me. We go through all
of this knowing that he's probably not going to make
it out on the other end.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
What are you You know, how often have we seen this?
There have been three assassination attempts against Trump. You know,
we've seen Charlie Kirk's assassin, Tyler Robinson. And these are
unhinged people, and you know, they became become wrapped up, brainwashed,
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if you will, in you know, by politics, and they
annoying themselves as the person who is going to fix
it and do it for violence and you know, there's
far too much of that. Has the divisive, ugly rhetoric
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contributed to that sort of political brainwashing that turns into violence. Yeah,
I think so. You know, when Democrats and others spend
so much of their time, including the media, vilifying at
every turn everything that Donald Trump does. It has an
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effect on all the nutballs out there, and this is
the inexorable result.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, it's just amazing, it really and it's so sad
to watch this that this is what we've become as
a society. I wanted to move into John Brennan's part
in the Russia hoax because how significant is it that
both Kelsey Gabbard and Jim Jordan made criminal referrals regarding
the former CIA director John Brennan.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, it's highly significant. Those are very important referrals, and
they're taken seriously by the Department of Justice and the
various US attorneys that have jurisdiction. And we learned just
yesterday that the FBI has been interviewing CIA officials about
what John Brennan did. And it looks to me like
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a case against Brennan is building toward an indictment for
lying to Congress about falsifying key intelligence to frame Trump
in the Russia hoaks. I wrote two books about it.
You know, the CIA hid these increment dominating documents for years,
but finally several months ago, Radcliffe and Gabbard declassified them.
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And what they show is chilling that on Barack Obama's orders,
John Brennan used the bogus, discredited anti Trump dossier to
promote the false narrative that Trump colluded with Russia, even
though the real intelligence, the Presidential Daily Briefing that Obama
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had and concealed, showed the exact office that Trump was innocent.
And you know, so Obama orders Brennan Gov acta CIA
and put together an intelligence community assessment that implicates Donald Trump.
And that's what Brennan did. And as he was doing it,
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top CIA experts on Russia, Warren Brennan, you can't use
this dossier. It's phony, it's paid for by Hillary Clinton,
it's meant to smear Trump. You can't use it. Brennan
didn't care, and he silenced and sidelined those people. And
in my book, which on seven years ago, I wrote
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how Brennan did, in fact include the dossier in the
Intel report, but then lied to Congress. I literally in
my book accused him of lying. Well, his newly to
classify documents now confirm what I wrote. He lied, And
I think he may be looking at an indictment in
a very near future.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
So the investigators, if it's determined that congressional testimony actually
contradicted the internal communications, what would prosecutors have to prove
to pursue a false statement a case? Is there something
like that?
Speaker 2 (26:48):
It's very simple that when he testified last in twenty
twenty three before Congress, so the statute limitations has not expired.
That you know, he repeated his earlier denial and he
didn't rely on the dossier. Now, of course we have
the documents that the dossier was cited in the Intelligence
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Community assessment, and you've got email communications and I think
forthcoming testimony from the CIA officials who Warren Brennan don't
do it. So you know, he ended up getting charged
with everything from false statements to perjury to obstruction of Congress.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I hate, we only have like four minutes left and
there's something more things I want to talk about. So
now I'm going to jump to Biden going to court
to stop the release of his ghostwriter tapes. And if
he's preparing to go to court to block the release
of the recordings between he and his ghostwriter, how strong
is that effort likely to be? Once Congress and the
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FIA requests are made are involved, how strong the case
can we have here?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Biden is not going to win that one because the
Supreme Court has said that presidential papers are not protected,
nor are vice presidential papers. And look the decision by
the Special Counsel Robert Hurr not to bring charges against Biden,
it had always wreaked a favoritism and a corrupt cover
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up because Biden's crimes were so blatant. He illegally stole
troes of classified documents when he was a senator and
Vice president, and then he compounded the felonies by sharing
them with somebody who didn't have classification authorization as ghostwriter. Well,
now Biden wants to go to court to conceal the
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incriminating tapes where he openly admits to his ghostwriter, oh gee,
you know I scrolled the right way all these top
secret area Let me go get him, I'll read them
to you. Or made him and he did well, of course.
But Biden's always been a dope. He was the dumbest
guy in the US in it for decades and everybody
knew it. And this, you know, is further proof of that.
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So the public or at the very least. Congress has
a right to know the truth. They have a right
to listen to the tapes, and so Biden can try
all a once, but it ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, let's jump to Comy real quick, if you have
about a minute and a half. He's under indictment. He
goes on MS, MSNBCA, CNN, and he's trashing Trump for
weaponizing the law. He's talk to us about that because
we only have a little more than a minute here.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, I mean, it's perversely ironic to accuse Trump of
weaponizing the law from a man James Comy, who promoted
the most notorious lie in American history, the Russia hopes.
He abused his power, fabricated a case against Trump, exploited
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the phony dossier, lie to the pis at court, conspired
with others to frame Trump as a Russian asset when
he knew it was all on Trill On top of it,
Tomy was the biggest leequoring washingt in DC, and when
questioned about it, claimed amnesia. He's a total phony always.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You know what, Greg, You've always been on top of
so many things. And I appreciate your input and thanks
for asking the many questions that we had for you today.
I hate to have let you go, but we have to.
Greg Jarrett, thank you so much. Box News legal analyst
and New York Times bestselling author. Thanks gre good to
be with you right. Thank you. Save We'll be back
with more of the Sean Handy. She remember, Sean is
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going to be joining us with Linda and they're going
to talk about what's going on in China right now.
What a reception he received there, My goodness, it was impressive. Literally,
a red carpet was rolled out for him. Honestly, he did,
and a lot of fanfare too. American flags being waved
was quite the sight to see. So we're gonna hear from
Sean and Linda coming up next to Don't Go Too
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Far Away, and also Shawn's got live two hours tonight
on a TV show from China