May 15, 2026 • 29 mins
Mark Simone is joined by economist Steve Moore for a fast-moving discussion on inflation, gas prices, China, taxation, and the future of the American economy. The conversation examines how energy prices and Middle East tensions are affecting markets while also exploring why many economists remain optimistic about long-term U.S. growth. Steve Moore argues that America is positioned to dominate the next generation of AI, manufacturing, and energy production if pro-growth policies continue.
The hour also dives into the economic divide between blue and red states, soaring taxes in places like New York and California, and the migration of businesses and wealth toward states like Florida and Texas. Mark and Steve discuss government spending, postal service losses, and whether America’s economic momentum can overcome global instability. Later in the program, Miranda Devine joins the show to discuss media bias, political violence, Hunter Biden, Barack Obama’s influence behind the scenes, and the ongoing political battles surrounding President Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, it's the Sean Hannity Show. It's Mark Simone here
for John Hannity. Normally I'm on our big flagship station
WR in New York or on the iHeart app. We
got a lot coming up, hey with us right now.
The brilliant economist Steve Moore. You should get his book,
The Trump Economic Miracle. It's a great, great book. Also,
(00:23):
he runs the Committee to Unleash Prosperity and they put
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the hotline. Steve Moore. How you doing, hey.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Mark, I'm doing pretty well, although I'm getting a little
bit seasick watching this market go up and down and
up and down. I mean, we had a fabulous week
and then today there was a pretty big sellof but
overall it was a pretty good week. And look, I
think the economy is looking stronger. Trump is coming back
with a couple of big victories and is from China.
Looks like he got some good deals with with a
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president g there in Beijing. So I'm doing pretty bullish,
pretty good about things.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So if things went so well in China, why the
market drop? Are they worried that he's going to go
back to bombing Iran or something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, everything is so dependent right now, mark on what's
happening in the in the Strait of Hormuz and whether
that oil is flowing and right now. The last time
I checked them and looked in the last couple of hours,
but it was about one hundred dollars a barrel oil.
Remember before Duran conflicts started, we were about seventy dollars
a barrel. So when the price of oil goes up,
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and the price of gasoline goes up, and the price
of energy goes up, it affects everything. It affects groceries,
it affects housing, it effects transportation. So but you know,
I'm going to use the word resilient. This is an
incredibly resilient economy, even though we've taken the shock hit
from the from the oil price in you know, look
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at the investment by businesses very good. You look at
consumers are still spending, although they're getting angry when they
go to this gas pump. I know, my wife does.
And so that's the kind of situation. But I really
believe once this gets resolved in the Middle East, we
are primed for a major, major boom in the US economy,
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just like we saw last year. I mean, last year
was a very good year. And people forget, before the
ram conflicts started, we had the lowest gas prices in
forty years adjusted for inflation.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, so all you read about is the high gas prices. Now,
when this thing is over and the gas prices plunge,
you'll never hear about it. You'll never read about it anywhere.
It won't report it. But hey, the other good thing
besides getting rid of the worst terrorist regime in the world,
it looks like we might be getting rid of Opek.
Wouldn't that be a good thing?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Wow, that'd be so amazing, you know. So I'm sixty
six years old now, so for most of my life,
you know, the oil price has been dictated by this
cartel Opek, And you know, for decades now, they've had
a blade at our neck. And they could, you know,
just by turning on and off the spigots, they could
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throw the American economy into a recession and cause real hardship.
I remember when I was a kid and my you know,
the sixteen years old, going up in Chicago and we
get up in the February morning and meet five degrees
and we'd pack up in the station wagon and have
to drive to the gas station. We'd be ateh the
line to get gas.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
They ste gas lines around the block. Back then, exactly, Hey,
if you read the New York Times or you watch MSNBC,
our economies a total shambles. China's the most biggest powerful economy.
What is the truth?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh? My god, So you know, here's There was a
big piece in New York Times, shock Shocked that said, oh,
China is just kicking our body. The economy is doing
so well, and they're going to leave us in a
cloud of dust. And I just looked at the evidence.
Over the last ten fifteen years, we've been beating China.
Our stock marker has got way way up. Theirs has
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been flatlined. We still produce way more than the Chinese do. Now, look,
I take the China threat very seriously as Trump does.
And they are in an enemy, in an adversary of
the United States, and they're an enemy and adversary of
freedom and so Trump I was very glad to see
he took a very hard line, you know with President
g and these negotiations, because the real issue of the
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next twenty to thirty years will the United States or
China be the world economic superpower? And Mark, I'm going
to put it my money on the United States as
long as we don't elect AOC as president.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah. No, China economy is not strong. In fact, they're
trying to alter their business model a little with the
exporting and all that. The fact that the President brought
the most powerful, biggest business leaders in the world with
him in his entorage that was pretty impressive and almost
intimidating to China, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I think? So? I mean you had you had you
know a number of billionaires in that room. Who are
the I think Elon Musk was there? Was he not?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah? Musk and Tim Cook and in video all those things.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
These guys are creating these incredible companies, Uh that are
you know, some of these companies are work more than
some entire countries are. So they've done very well.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They're creating.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And look, all of us benefit when American companies benefit
because we almost all of us have four one k
plans and money invested in the market, and you know,
so uh so that's a good thing for America that
we've been so dominant. And I would say this the
big issue for America going forward is will the United States.
I think we will dominate the AI and robotics age
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that's coming in the way that we've completely dominated mark
the Internet age. You know, we have these incredible companies
like Amazon and Google and Microsoft and on and on,
and now we have you know, in Nvidia and Tropic
and so I want to make sure. I think one
of Trump's you know, missions in life, is to make
sure that we remain number one. And I want to
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mention something else that my may mark, which is the
tax cut, the big beautiful bill, huge positive impact on investment.
And by the way, I like getting a little bit
bigger reef on this year. I don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
No, it was good. It was good. However, bear in
mind I live in New York. How bad are our
taxes here in New York?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, my god, you know, we were just looking at
the per capita state and local taxes. This was in
our hotline this morning. So we're looking at all the
fifty states and not only does New York have the
highest per capita tax burden of any state. Are you
ready for this? Mark? Are you sitting down right now?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I hope for this. I better be lying down. I
think New York.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Is now has a per capita tax burden that's per person,
that's almost twice as high as most states. What money go?
Where's that all the money going?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, you know, they just put out the bar for
New York City one hundred and twenty four billion. That's
double the budget of the whole state of Florida. It's
just waste and fraud. What do we do?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And there's no evidence that you know, the one thing?
Did I go to from New York a lot? As
you know, I work for the Wall Street Journal and
don't anymore, But I did, And I used to go
up to Manhattan all the time, and it's still new.
And I've been to Florida many times. And I got
to tell you, Florida has better services, you know, better
public services than New York does and they spend half
as much money. How did it happen?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, again, it's all waste and fraud. You know, we
spend it costs forty thousand a mile to pave a highway,
we spend a million a mile. It's stuff like that. Yeah,
and there's nobody to crack down on this or do anything,
certainly not Democrats. How can we can we ever fix this?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, how about you know the mayor of New York City,
Mondamine saying, you know, they're running a multi billion dollar devaity,
So we can't find anywhere to cut in our budget. Really,
I mean, you got one hundred billion dollar budget. You
couldn't find anything. So they want to raise taxes again.
And so this is the big story in America today,
the Blue states. All they want to do is raise
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taxes high or hire. And how we're going to tax
the rich, tax the companies, tax with the stack if
you're success. By the way, they've defined someone who's rich
as anyone who has a job. Right, And so where
are all the all the people going, Where are the
company is going? Where is the money going? It's going
into the red states. I mean there's been a two
trillion dollar massive transfer of income and wealth out of
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Blue states like California, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts.
Where's it all going? Oh, it's going to the Carolinas.
It's going to Texas, it's going to Florida, it's going
to Tennessee. By the way, Mark, do you know what Texas,
Tennessee and Florida have in common? No, no income tax?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Florida has no income tax. How are their services better?
And would you would you say There's schools are obviously better, right.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Because they as my mom used to say, my dear
old department, mom used to stay. They watched their p's
and q's.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But Florida they're talking about even getting rid of property text,
how would that even be possible?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And well, you know, this is a state that has
so much money coming in, so many businesses coming in
that they're able. You know, when you have economic growth
and you've got prosperity, guess what that helps pay the bills.
And that's why you know Texas the same thing. I mean,
my gosh, Texas Dallas is pretty practically the new Wall Street.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Wow. Hey, hey, Steve Moore, you know I used to
get my mail. You get a whole big bunch of envelopes.
You know, I get my mail. Not it's like one thing.
Do we really still even need this postal service?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
But the postal service has lost one hundred and twenty
billion dollars. What eleven years one hundred and twenty billion dollars,
you know, I think, look, we all have a kind
of romantic vision of the blue and white and red
you know, trucks and the mail man coming to the door.
But let's face it, you know, in ten years there's
not going to be a lot of snail mail left.
(10:07):
It's a dying industry. I think it's probably time to
you know, it's like the telegram. Whence the last time
you got a telegraph.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I don't think you can send one anymore. Is there
such a thing?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, So they've got to they've got to do something
about this because they can't keep losing, you know. And
when I say they, who's who's who's absorbing all that that?
Those losses you and I and all the people who
pay taxes. So it's just it's losing more and more
money all the time. And let's have some company. Let's
let anybody, you know, FedEx or any of these ups
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or any service. They should be able to deliver the
mail and they wouldn't lose as much money as the
postal service does. By the way, the cost of a
stamp in just the last ten years has gone up
eighty percent. They're still losing money.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, well I got these forever stamps which you just
use them forever whatever I paid for them.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
My advice is use him quickly, folks.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
All right, Well Steve Moore, great stuff. Now you should
go to he runs the committee to Unleashed Prosperity. They
put out the best daily briefing. It's called the Hotline,
right and it's it's absolutely free. Go to Unleash Prosperity
dot com. Sign up for it. And the book is
the Trump Economic Miracle. Make sure you get the book.
(11:22):
And of course you'll see Steve Moore all over television.
Steve Moore, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Thank you, Mark, have a great week on my friends.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
All right, take care. Yeah. Actually I don't even mail
any checks anymore. Online banking. You know, it's actually safer
now you put stuff in the mailbox. There's mailbox thiefs
that steal all the envelopes looking for checks in there.
You're actually safer now with online banking. Hey, we got
a lot to talk about, a Miranda Divine and more
(11:50):
coming up. You can call us one eight hundred nine
four to one. Sean is the number one eight hundred
nine one seven three two six one eight hundred nine
four one seven three two six. Mark Simone here on
the Sean Hannity Show. Hey, welcome back. It's the Sean
Hannity Show. It's Mark Simone here for Sean. Linda is here.
(12:12):
How's it going, Linda? We're doing all right.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
You know what, Mark, any day that I get to
spend with you and your illustrious talent is a day
that I don't even deserve the fact that I get
to be here among such greatness.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
What a phone?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I feel like that's kind of what happened between g
and Trump. No, you're wonderful. No, no, no, you're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yes, uh no. Hey, she agreed to a lot of stuff.
He agreed to buy two hundred Boeing jets, he agreed
to help with the RAM. Well, now the good news
is they never live up.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Then I was gonna say, I.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Was like, well, you know, it's kind of like promises
me promises, kep, we shall see you know, show me
your actions.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Tire history. China's never lived up to an no one thing.
That's why it's heeasy to negotiate with them. How about
eight hundred Yitess you got it.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
That's great. Absolutely, it's like the Ponzi scheme of all
Ponzi's schemes.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Whatever you say, we got it. In fact, we got
four of them, all yours.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Whatever you need, just give us, you know is what
are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
He doesn't buy the jets, what are you gonna do?
Take the court as nothing.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Although I did think I'm curious how the summit was
written up in Chinese newspapers. Obviously the government is overseeing everything,
but there's a lot of undercurrent, you know, Epoch Times
talks about that a lot that there's this undercurrent of
news where you can find out what's actually really going
on and what the Chinese people think. And obviously before
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the American detail got back on Air Force one, they
dumped everything, every gift.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Every on your phone, every everything went into the trash.
So I'm like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Everything is bug tampered with, embedded with stuff. So they
get rid of everything.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, So I'm kind of curious about, you know, how
that was written up, like if they thought was it
was ungrateful or I don't know where they would have
disposed of said items.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Right over the ocean Jesus.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But do you know what I'm saying, Like, how do
you tactfully do that? Because they're in a surveillance state
quite literally, So no matter what you do, no matter
where you go, no matter what you're throwing away, right, Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
They probably brought like some kind of secure bag to.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Lock it in, and then I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Hey, my phone is blowing up right now.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah, people are upset.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Huh No, because I went to the doctor today. Oh,
you make a doctor's appointment, you get a text before
you even hang up, thank you for making your appointment.
Click here. Then I get a text every five minutes
just to confirm your appointment.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I actually asked my friend about this, who's a physician,
and she's pretty.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
She's here in New York and she's got a great practice.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And I said to her, you know your office, since
like thirty nine text messages to day off, I already
told you I was coming. She goes, we have zero
control over that. She's like, it's a hot mess. We
can't control it.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
It's super annoying, you know, shut it down.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I'm walking to the doctor's I'm like a block away.
You can check in now if you want text, so.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Can we talk about that?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Is there a reason why I can no longer check in?
I went to the dentist today. They are lovely. By
the way, if anybody's looking for a dentist, doctor Abadeinio
on said second Street. He's fabulous. Awesome office. Lisa and
Dina Pam shout out to my dentist. But I'm serious, Like,
you walk in, Hey, how are you?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Here's your paperwork, Here's what you need to do. It's
in person. I don't need to predo anything.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, that's the way to do it, you know. I
go to the doctor, he's great. I'm leaving. I walk out.
I didn't even hit the button for the elevator. I
get a text. How was your appointment? Take our survey?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I had the they came to like college hunks taking
junk the other day from my house. I had four
survey requests. I'm like, yeah, they were great.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
They took junk.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
How many times I gotta tell you I gave you
a tip?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, oh that's a What do they call those hunks
lugging junk?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
College hunks lug and junk.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, it's a pretty good psyche.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Call in junk. Either way, it works for me.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, pretty good. If you gotta throw away stuff back
with Miranda Divine, don't go away. Well, actually it's Mark
Simone here for Sean Hannity. Sean will be back on Monday. Hey,
with us right now, the superstar columnist Miranda Divine. Her
columns in the New York Post, but you can see
him there. Also, she does the great podcast Force One,
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phenomenal podcast, and of course you see her all over television,
Fox News contributor and get her books. She's written some big,
big best sellers yet the big guy in Laptop from Hell.
And she's with us right now. Miranda Devine, how you doing.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm Mark, I'm well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Hey, what do you think President Trump and China? Pretty
impressive entourage he brought with him, wasn't it?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Oh? It was incredible And I mean he had, of
course his fantastic cabinet, but he had all the big
business people that I'm sure President g was very keen
to get his clutches into. So it seemed to.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Go off really well.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Now you think this was better than Joe Biden bringing
his crazy son Hunter that was his entourage.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
It's so funny that you say that exactly. How could
we forget December twenty thirteen, there was Joe Biden arriving
on Air Force two, and behind him trooping along in
his groovy sunglasses, just like dad was Hunter. And you know,
Joe Biden was supposed to leave China with things for
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America and he didn't. China just kept on militarizing the
South China Sea, kept on stealing our ip. Joe Biden
got nothing, but Hunter Biden got a share in a
billion dollar company. You know, I don't think that Donald
Trump was doing that. Instead, I think he got a
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whole lot of promises from China. Let's see. I mean,
you never trust a thing they say, but to invest
in America. And you know he brought along chim Apple
and Elon Musk and the sort of business titans of America.
And so I think it has to be good for us.
Even though China is an adversary, we have to learn
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how to get along with them.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, now you're the Hunter expert. Hunter made as you said,
he had that billion dollar deal. He made millions in
the Ukraine, he made millions on the paintings. Why is
he now broke. Apparently Campase bills.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Well, he says he's broke to the court because Abby
loll hilariously. His lawyer is looking for money, and I mean,
I hear it's millions of dollars that he's owed. And
obviously his sugar brother Kevin Morris in California has closed
his wallet, having forked out several million dollars to keep
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Hunter in the lifestyle that he's become used to. Hunter
is still living high on the hog. He told the
court that he was living overseas, which is why he
couldn't show up in person. And he has been known
to travel and have holidays in South Africa, which his
new wife's second home or original home, but he's not
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there all the time. He's constantly popping up in California
at various places that expensive restaurants, at swanky digs of billionaires,
where I suppose he's still getting free holidays, free vacation time.
And in fact, London Roberts his baby mama, whose little
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girl Navy must be God, she'd be six by now,
I think, and Hunter. She kindly agreed to Hunter reducing
his child support payments, and then he renigged on the
new cheaper deal been paying her, so she's had to
go back to court. And as her lawyer, who's fantastic
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Clint Lancaster pointed out in the Arkansas court, Hunter has
been living the high life. And Clint Lancaster just listed
out a whole lot of the swanky restaurants and you
know the expensive rentals that he has. How on Earth,
when the man does not have a job he can
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afford to live the way he does and you can
I mean, the trips back and forward to South Africa
are not cheap, and you can bet he's not flying economy.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So he has a current wife. You say, how desperate
do you have to be to marry Hunter Biden?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Well, I guess she was from South Africa, so she
didn't know any better. The only thing I can think.
And look, a lot of people are very attracted to celebrity,
and Hunter Biden is a sort of a celebrity. You know,
he's the son of the notorious son of who was
then the president when they got married, So that, I
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guess is a pretty heady combination power and celebrity to
a young woman. So she's there, she seems to be.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
She's still with him.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
They have a son together, so they seem to be
happy enough, but who knows.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, I'm sure this will have a very happy ending,
this marriage. But what does Joe Biden do all day?
We don't hear from What do is think he does
all day?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Well? I actually quite like the fact that it's the
one good thing I will say about Joe Biden, although
he may not have any control over it. We haven't
seen very much of him at all. He gives the
occasional ridiculous speech, but he's obviously his services are not
sought after as a speech giver. But the person that
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we see ad nauseum the former president is Barack Obama.
Unlike all other past presidents, he inserts himself repeatedly into
the political process in a very slimy, cunning, sly way.
And whenever I see Barack Obama pop up, I think
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to myself, there's trouble brewing. Trouble always follows him. I
think part of the reason that he's so frenetically involved
in the Democrats issues now is not because he's a
great party man and he wants to help the party
that's in dire straits. I think it's because he's concerned
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that the Trump doj is closing in on him. That
there's a attorney in Florida, Jason Miarez, who is looking
at a conspiracy case which involves all of those people
James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper, etc. Who were involved
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in that dodgy intelligence assessment just after the election in
twenty sixteen that basically fingered Donald Trump or framed Donald
Trump I should say, as an agent of Vladimir Putin,
and kept that Russia hook collusion hoax going right through
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the Muller investigation and crippled Donald Trump at least the
first half of his presidency and has left, you know,
attained ever since. There's still some people who still believe
that Donald Trump is a rush An agent. So Barack Obama,
he was the one who held the meeting, who came
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up with this, or instructed his minions Brennan and co.
To do his bidding and create this false intelligence assessment.
And he's gotten off scott free. And you just hear
rumbles sometimes, you know, when I interview some senior administration people,
that maybe Barack Obama is not going to get off
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scott free. So I think he might be worried and
he's trying to keep his profile high so that it
seems like if they do in diet him, will come
after him in some way that he can pretend that
it's because he's such a potent political adversary, they're trying
to neutralize him.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Ah. Interesting, So hey, Miranda Devine, your latest calm. It's
a great combat the violence, which is all coming from
the left. Yet all the you know, the Biden types
kept talking about ultra maga domestic terrorists. Will the public
ever get the story straight from the regular media?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I don't think so. It really is quite scary and
sinister that you still have the New York Times talking about,
you know, domestic terrorism being a right wing issue and
talking about right wing violence that is so outdated if
it was ever true at all. And they always rely
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on January sixth, which was a riot at the Capitol
and reprehensible those people who broke in and you made
a mess, I guess, and fought with police more importantly,
but they were a minority of the Trump supporters who
turned up at the capitol, and many of those who
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were indicted in the biggest FBI investigation in its history. Ridiculously,
we didn't even go into the Capitol. They were totally peaceful.
This was an unarmed protest or turned into a riot,
and only one person was killed, and that was Ashley
Babbitt by a Capital police officer who was then protected
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and his name was suppressed, etc. Unlike all the cops
we had seen on the other side, and unlike the
reaction to the Summer of Love, the BLM and TIFA
riots that we all suffered through in twenty twenty, this
was brought up as if it was worse than Pearl Harbor.
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That's what Kamala Harrison, Joe Biden said, worse than nine
to eleven the Capitol right. That went on for a
couple of hours. So the New York Times and the
Washington Posts go along with that narrative. And I don't
see them ever breaking from the Democrat narrative. And you're
seeing them even with their anti Israel, the New York
Times with its disgusting anti Israel lies, there's still running
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the left wing playbooks.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah. Yeah, and you've had how many three assassination temps
on the president, plus if you count the guy with
the bomb heading to mar Alago. That's for you were
sitting there right at the White House Correspondence dinner when
that happened.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Yes, I was, and you know, it was remarkable how
calm and sanguine Donald Trump was just even while it
was all happening. He sort of just surveyed the room,
and I guess he saw that there was an immediate
danger from his vantage point up high, looking towards the
(26:38):
back of the room. I was sitting up the front,
facing towards him the stage, and so all I heard
was some plates what sounded like plates or glasses breaking,
and I just thought, Oh, a waiter's dropped a tray.
How embarrassing for them. And then everyone around me just
(26:59):
got under the table because I think, if you grew
up in America, which I didn't, you maybe I used to.
You've been trained, you've been drilled into, you know, take cover.
So I wasn't. So I was sitting there like a
bunny looking around and would have been a sitting duck
if if there had been a gunman in there, which
(27:21):
there could have been. And then I eventually went down,
and then Scott Bessant, who was I was sitting next
to Treasury Secretary by kindly offered me to go with him.
So we went back to his house and I continue
doing some work from back there. But it was, you know,
another frightening reminder of the fear. And well he doesn't
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feel fear, it doesn't seem, but certainly the threat around
Donald Trump, they're never going to stop trying to kill him,
whether it be left wing assassin's young men who have
been groomed I believe, like Thomas Crooks, or whether it's Iran.
You know, whether Iran is behind any of these other attempts.
(28:06):
We know certainly there was one Iranian well he was
not Iranian, but he was ordered by the IRGC in
Iran to take out Donald Trump. And he was convicted
recently in New York. So these threats are known by
the Secret Service, by the CIA, by the FBI. I
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think we just see the tip of the iceberg. And
it's really remarkable that President Trump just you know, popped
up just very shortly after that, gave a press conference
in his tuxedo and was just you know, making jokes
and on top of things and making everybody calm, because
I think you had the whole press gallery who then
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had to assemble over at the White House, and they
I think they were calmed by the fact that he
wasn't panicked. I think the entire country gets calmed, just
like at Butler when he stood up and raised his
fist in the air, blood streaming down his face, and
said fight, fight, Fight. It just makes you realize that
things are not spiraling out of control. The president is
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still the president, He's still in charge. And for most
Americans who aren't psychopaths or totally unhinged, that's a good thing.
And let's hope on keeping on well.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Miranda Divine brilliant as always. Great talking to you. Everybody
listened to her podcast, You'll love it. It's Pod force
one Interviews with Everybody, the President, the Vice President, pod
Force one. Get her best selling books, The Big Guy
and Laptop from Hell. Read her column of course The
New York Post. Miranda Divine, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I take care. Hey, well, we've got a lot more
coming up. We'll take some calls. I'd lots to talk about.
Don't go away. It's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity.
Well, it's the Sean Hannity Show. It's Mark Simone here
for John Hannity. Normally I'm on our big flagship station
WR in New York or on the iHeart app. We
got a lot coming up, hey with us right now.
The brilliant economist Steve Moore. You should get his book,
The Trump Economic Miracle. It's a great, great book. Also,
(00:23):
he runs the Committee to Unleash Prosperity and they put
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the hotline. Steve Moore. How you doing, hey.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Mark, I'm doing pretty well, although I'm getting a little
bit seasick watching this market go up and down and
up and down. I mean, we had a fabulous week
and then today there was a pretty big sellof but
overall it was a pretty good week. And look, I
think the economy is looking stronger. Trump is coming back
with a couple of big victories and is from China.
Looks like he got some good deals with with a
(01:06):
president g there in Beijing. So I'm doing pretty bullish,
pretty good about things.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So if things went so well in China, why the
market drop? Are they worried that he's going to go
back to bombing Iran or something like that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, everything is so dependent right now, mark on what's
happening in the in the Strait of Hormuz and whether
that oil is flowing and right now. The last time
I checked them and looked in the last couple of hours,
but it was about one hundred dollars a barrel oil.
Remember before Duran conflicts started, we were about seventy dollars
a barrel. So when the price of oil goes up,
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and the price of gasoline goes up, and the price
of energy goes up, it affects everything. It affects groceries,
it affects housing, it effects transportation. So but you know,
I'm going to use the word resilient. This is an
incredibly resilient economy, even though we've taken the shock hit
from the from the oil price in you know, look
(02:01):
at the investment by businesses very good. You look at
consumers are still spending, although they're getting angry when they
go to this gas pump. I know, my wife does.
And so that's the kind of situation. But I really
believe once this gets resolved in the Middle East, we
are primed for a major, major boom in the US economy,
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just like we saw last year. I mean, last year
was a very good year. And people forget, before the
ram conflicts started, we had the lowest gas prices in
forty years adjusted for inflation.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, so all you read about is the high gas prices. Now,
when this thing is over and the gas prices plunge,
you'll never hear about it. You'll never read about it anywhere.
It won't report it. But hey, the other good thing
besides getting rid of the worst terrorist regime in the world,
it looks like we might be getting rid of Opek.
Wouldn't that be a good thing?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Wow, that'd be so amazing, you know. So I'm sixty
six years old now, so for most of my life,
you know, the oil price has been dictated by this
cartel Opek, And you know, for decades now, they've had
a blade at our neck. And they could, you know,
just by turning on and off the spigots, they could
(03:11):
throw the American economy into a recession and cause real hardship.
I remember when I was a kid and my you know,
the sixteen years old, going up in Chicago and we
get up in the February morning and meet five degrees
and we'd pack up in the station wagon and have
to drive to the gas station. We'd be ateh the
line to get gas.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
They ste gas lines around the block. Back then, exactly, Hey,
if you read the New York Times or you watch MSNBC,
our economies a total shambles. China's the most biggest powerful economy.
What is the truth?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh? My god, So you know, here's There was a
big piece in New York Times, shock Shocked that said, oh,
China is just kicking our body. The economy is doing
so well, and they're going to leave us in a
cloud of dust. And I just looked at the evidence.
Over the last ten fifteen years, we've been beating China.
Our stock marker has got way way up. Theirs has
(04:04):
been flatlined. We still produce way more than the Chinese do. Now, look,
I take the China threat very seriously as Trump does.
And they are in an enemy, in an adversary of
the United States, and they're an enemy and adversary of
freedom and so Trump I was very glad to see
he took a very hard line, you know with President
g and these negotiations, because the real issue of the
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next twenty to thirty years will the United States or
China be the world economic superpower? And Mark, I'm going
to put it my money on the United States as
long as we don't elect AOC as president.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah. No, China economy is not strong. In fact, they're
trying to alter their business model a little with the
exporting and all that. The fact that the President brought
the most powerful, biggest business leaders in the world with
him in his entorage that was pretty impressive and almost
intimidating to China, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I think? So? I mean you had you had you
know a number of billionaires in that room. Who are
the I think Elon Musk was there? Was he not?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah? Musk and Tim Cook and in video all those things.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
These guys are creating these incredible companies, Uh that are
you know, some of these companies are work more than
some entire countries are. So they've done very well.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They're creating.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And look, all of us benefit when American companies benefit
because we almost all of us have four one k
plans and money invested in the market, and you know,
so uh so that's a good thing for America that
we've been so dominant. And I would say this the
big issue for America going forward is will the United States.
I think we will dominate the AI and robotics age
(05:42):
that's coming in the way that we've completely dominated mark
the Internet age. You know, we have these incredible companies
like Amazon and Google and Microsoft and on and on,
and now we have you know, in Nvidia and Tropic
and so I want to make sure. I think one
of Trump's you know, missions in life, is to make
sure that we remain number one. And I want to
(06:04):
mention something else that my may mark, which is the
tax cut, the big beautiful bill, huge positive impact on investment.
And by the way, I like getting a little bit
bigger reef on this year. I don't know about you.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
No, it was good. It was good. However, bear in
mind I live in New York. How bad are our
taxes here in New York?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, my god, you know, we were just looking at
the per capita state and local taxes. This was in
our hotline this morning. So we're looking at all the
fifty states and not only does New York have the
highest per capita tax burden of any state. Are you
ready for this? Mark? Are you sitting down right now?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I hope for this. I better be lying down. I
think New York.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Is now has a per capita tax burden that's per person,
that's almost twice as high as most states. What money go?
Where's that all the money going?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Well, you know, they just put out the bar for
New York City one hundred and twenty four billion. That's
double the budget of the whole state of Florida. It's
just waste and fraud. What do we do?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And there's no evidence that you know, the one thing?
Did I go to from New York a lot? As
you know, I work for the Wall Street Journal and
don't anymore, But I did, And I used to go
up to Manhattan all the time, and it's still new.
And I've been to Florida many times. And I got
to tell you, Florida has better services, you know, better
public services than New York does and they spend half
as much money. How did it happen?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, again, it's all waste and fraud. You know, we
spend it costs forty thousand a mile to pave a highway,
we spend a million a mile. It's stuff like that. Yeah,
and there's nobody to crack down on this or do anything,
certainly not Democrats. How can we can we ever fix this?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, how about you know the mayor of New York City,
Mondamine saying, you know, they're running a multi billion dollar devaity,
So we can't find anywhere to cut in our budget. Really,
I mean, you got one hundred billion dollar budget. You
couldn't find anything. So they want to raise taxes again.
And so this is the big story in America today,
the Blue states. All they want to do is raise
(08:09):
taxes high or hire. And how we're going to tax
the rich, tax the companies, tax with the stack if
you're success. By the way, they've defined someone who's rich
as anyone who has a job. Right, And so where
are all the all the people going, Where are the
company is going? Where is the money going? It's going
into the red states. I mean there's been a two
trillion dollar massive transfer of income and wealth out of
(08:33):
Blue states like California, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts.
Where's it all going? Oh, it's going to the Carolinas.
It's going to Texas, it's going to Florida, it's going
to Tennessee. By the way, Mark, do you know what Texas,
Tennessee and Florida have in common? No, no income tax?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Florida has no income tax. How are their services better?
And would you would you say There's schools are obviously better, right.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Because they as my mom used to say, my dear
old department, mom used to stay. They watched their p's
and q's.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But Florida they're talking about even getting rid of property text,
how would that even be possible?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And well, you know, this is a state that has
so much money coming in, so many businesses coming in
that they're able. You know, when you have economic growth
and you've got prosperity, guess what that helps pay the bills.
And that's why you know Texas the same thing. I mean,
my gosh, Texas Dallas is pretty practically the new Wall Street.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Wow. Hey, hey, Steve Moore, you know I used to
get my mail. You get a whole big bunch of envelopes.
You know, I get my mail. Not it's like one thing.
Do we really still even need this postal service?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
But the postal service has lost one hundred and twenty
billion dollars. What eleven years one hundred and twenty billion dollars,
you know, I think, look, we all have a kind
of romantic vision of the blue and white and red
you know, trucks and the mail man coming to the door.
But let's face it, you know, in ten years there's
not going to be a lot of snail mail left.
(10:07):
It's a dying industry. I think it's probably time to
you know, it's like the telegram. Whence the last time
you got a telegraph.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I don't think you can send one anymore. Is there
such a thing?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, So they've got to they've got to do something
about this because they can't keep losing, you know. And
when I say they, who's who's who's absorbing all that that?
Those losses you and I and all the people who
pay taxes. So it's just it's losing more and more
money all the time. And let's have some company. Let's
let anybody, you know, FedEx or any of these ups
(10:37):
or any service. They should be able to deliver the
mail and they wouldn't lose as much money as the
postal service does. By the way, the cost of a
stamp in just the last ten years has gone up
eighty percent. They're still losing money.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, well I got these forever stamps which you just
use them forever whatever I paid for them.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
My advice is use him quickly, folks.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
All right, Well Steve Moore, great stuff. Now you should
go to he runs the committee to Unleashed Prosperity. They
put out the best daily briefing. It's called the Hotline,
right and it's it's absolutely free. Go to Unleash Prosperity
dot com. Sign up for it. And the book is
the Trump Economic Miracle. Make sure you get the book.
(11:22):
And of course you'll see Steve Moore all over television.
Steve Moore, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Thank you, Mark, have a great week on my friends.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
All right, take care. Yeah. Actually I don't even mail
any checks anymore. Online banking. You know, it's actually safer
now you put stuff in the mailbox. There's mailbox thiefs
that steal all the envelopes looking for checks in there.
You're actually safer now with online banking. Hey, we got
a lot to talk about, a Miranda Divine and more
(11:50):
coming up. You can call us one eight hundred nine
four to one. Sean is the number one eight hundred
nine one seven three two six one eight hundred nine
four one seven three two six. Mark Simone here on
the Sean Hannity Show. Hey, welcome back. It's the Sean
Hannity Show. It's Mark Simone here for Sean. Linda is here.
(12:12):
How's it going, Linda? We're doing all right.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
You know what, Mark, any day that I get to
spend with you and your illustrious talent is a day
that I don't even deserve the fact that I get
to be here among such greatness.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
What a phone?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I feel like that's kind of what happened between g
and Trump. No, you're wonderful. No, no, no, you're wonderful.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yes, uh no. Hey, she agreed to a lot of stuff.
He agreed to buy two hundred Boeing jets, he agreed
to help with the RAM. Well, now the good news
is they never live up.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Then I was gonna say, I.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Was like, well, you know, it's kind of like promises
me promises, kep, we shall see you know, show me
your actions.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Tire history. China's never lived up to an no one thing.
That's why it's heeasy to negotiate with them. How about
eight hundred Yitess you got it.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
That's great. Absolutely, it's like the Ponzi scheme of all
Ponzi's schemes.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Whatever you say, we got it. In fact, we got
four of them, all yours.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Whatever you need, just give us, you know is what
are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
He doesn't buy the jets, what are you gonna do?
Take the court as nothing.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Although I did think I'm curious how the summit was
written up in Chinese newspapers. Obviously the government is overseeing everything,
but there's a lot of undercurrent, you know, Epoch Times
talks about that a lot that there's this undercurrent of
news where you can find out what's actually really going
on and what the Chinese people think. And obviously before
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the American detail got back on Air Force one, they
dumped everything, every gift.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Every on your phone, every everything went into the trash.
So I'm like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Everything is bug tampered with, embedded with stuff. So they
get rid of everything.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, So I'm kind of curious about, you know, how
that was written up, like if they thought was it
was ungrateful or I don't know where they would have
disposed of said items.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Right over the ocean Jesus.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But do you know what I'm saying, Like, how do
you tactfully do that? Because they're in a surveillance state
quite literally, So no matter what you do, no matter
where you go, no matter what you're throwing away, right, Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
They probably brought like some kind of secure bag to.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Lock it in, and then I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Hey, my phone is blowing up right now.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah, people are upset.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Huh No, because I went to the doctor today. Oh,
you make a doctor's appointment, you get a text before
you even hang up, thank you for making your appointment.
Click here. Then I get a text every five minutes
just to confirm your appointment.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I actually asked my friend about this, who's a physician,
and she's pretty.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
She's here in New York and she's got a great practice.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And I said to her, you know your office, since
like thirty nine text messages to day off, I already
told you I was coming. She goes, we have zero
control over that. She's like, it's a hot mess. We
can't control it.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
It's super annoying, you know, shut it down.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I'm walking to the doctor's I'm like a block away.
You can check in now if you want text, so.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Can we talk about that?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Is there a reason why I can no longer check in?
I went to the dentist today. They are lovely. By
the way, if anybody's looking for a dentist, doctor Abadeinio
on said second Street. He's fabulous. Awesome office. Lisa and
Dina Pam shout out to my dentist. But I'm serious, Like,
you walk in, Hey, how are you?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Here's your paperwork, Here's what you need to do. It's
in person. I don't need to predo anything.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, that's the way to do it, you know. I
go to the doctor, he's great. I'm leaving. I walk out.
I didn't even hit the button for the elevator. I
get a text. How was your appointment? Take our survey?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I had the they came to like college hunks taking
junk the other day from my house. I had four
survey requests. I'm like, yeah, they were great.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
They took junk.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
How many times I gotta tell you I gave you
a tip?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, oh that's a What do they call those hunks
lugging junk?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
College hunks lug and junk.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, it's a pretty good psyche.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Call in junk. Either way, it works for me.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, pretty good. If you gotta throw away stuff back
with Miranda Divine, don't go away. Well, actually it's Mark
Simone here for Sean Hannity. Sean will be back on Monday. Hey,
with us right now, the superstar columnist Miranda Divine. Her
columns in the New York Post, but you can see
him there. Also, she does the great podcast Force One,
(16:02):
phenomenal podcast, and of course you see her all over television,
Fox News contributor and get her books. She's written some big,
big best sellers yet the big guy in Laptop from Hell.
And she's with us right now. Miranda Devine, how you doing.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm Mark, I'm well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Hey, what do you think President Trump and China? Pretty
impressive entourage he brought with him, wasn't it?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Oh? It was incredible And I mean he had, of
course his fantastic cabinet, but he had all the big
business people that I'm sure President g was very keen
to get his clutches into. So it seemed to.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Go off really well.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Now you think this was better than Joe Biden bringing
his crazy son Hunter that was his entourage.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
It's so funny that you say that exactly. How could
we forget December twenty thirteen, there was Joe Biden arriving
on Air Force two, and behind him trooping along in
his groovy sunglasses, just like dad was Hunter. And you know,
Joe Biden was supposed to leave China with things for
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America and he didn't. China just kept on militarizing the
South China Sea, kept on stealing our ip. Joe Biden
got nothing, but Hunter Biden got a share in a
billion dollar company. You know, I don't think that Donald
Trump was doing that. Instead, I think he got a
(17:31):
whole lot of promises from China. Let's see. I mean,
you never trust a thing they say, but to invest
in America. And you know he brought along chim Apple
and Elon Musk and the sort of business titans of America.
And so I think it has to be good for us.
Even though China is an adversary, we have to learn
(17:53):
how to get along with them.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, now you're the Hunter expert. Hunter made as you said,
he had that billion dollar deal. He made millions in
the Ukraine, he made millions on the paintings. Why is
he now broke. Apparently Campase bills.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Well, he says he's broke to the court because Abby
loll hilariously. His lawyer is looking for money, and I mean,
I hear it's millions of dollars that he's owed. And
obviously his sugar brother Kevin Morris in California has closed
his wallet, having forked out several million dollars to keep
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Hunter in the lifestyle that he's become used to. Hunter
is still living high on the hog. He told the
court that he was living overseas, which is why he
couldn't show up in person. And he has been known
to travel and have holidays in South Africa, which his
new wife's second home or original home, but he's not
(18:54):
there all the time. He's constantly popping up in California
at various places that expensive restaurants, at swanky digs of billionaires,
where I suppose he's still getting free holidays, free vacation time.
And in fact, London Roberts his baby mama, whose little
(19:16):
girl Navy must be God, she'd be six by now,
I think, and Hunter. She kindly agreed to Hunter reducing
his child support payments, and then he renigged on the
new cheaper deal been paying her, so she's had to
go back to court. And as her lawyer, who's fantastic
(19:36):
Clint Lancaster pointed out in the Arkansas court, Hunter has
been living the high life. And Clint Lancaster just listed
out a whole lot of the swanky restaurants and you
know the expensive rentals that he has. How on Earth,
when the man does not have a job he can
(19:59):
afford to live the way he does and you can
I mean, the trips back and forward to South Africa
are not cheap, and you can bet he's not flying economy.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So he has a current wife. You say, how desperate
do you have to be to marry Hunter Biden?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Well, I guess she was from South Africa, so she
didn't know any better. The only thing I can think.
And look, a lot of people are very attracted to celebrity,
and Hunter Biden is a sort of a celebrity. You know,
he's the son of the notorious son of who was
then the president when they got married, So that, I
(20:38):
guess is a pretty heady combination power and celebrity to
a young woman. So she's there, she seems to be.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
She's still with him.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
They have a son together, so they seem to be
happy enough, but who knows.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, I'm sure this will have a very happy ending,
this marriage. But what does Joe Biden do all day?
We don't hear from What do is think he does
all day?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Well? I actually quite like the fact that it's the
one good thing I will say about Joe Biden, although
he may not have any control over it. We haven't
seen very much of him at all. He gives the
occasional ridiculous speech, but he's obviously his services are not
sought after as a speech giver. But the person that
(21:22):
we see ad nauseum the former president is Barack Obama.
Unlike all other past presidents, he inserts himself repeatedly into
the political process in a very slimy, cunning, sly way.
And whenever I see Barack Obama pop up, I think
(21:42):
to myself, there's trouble brewing. Trouble always follows him. I
think part of the reason that he's so frenetically involved
in the Democrats issues now is not because he's a
great party man and he wants to help the party
that's in dire straits. I think it's because he's concerned
(22:02):
that the Trump doj is closing in on him. That
there's a attorney in Florida, Jason Miarez, who is looking
at a conspiracy case which involves all of those people
James Comey, John Brennan, James Clapper, etc. Who were involved
(22:24):
in that dodgy intelligence assessment just after the election in
twenty sixteen that basically fingered Donald Trump or framed Donald
Trump I should say, as an agent of Vladimir Putin,
and kept that Russia hook collusion hoax going right through
(22:46):
the Muller investigation and crippled Donald Trump at least the
first half of his presidency and has left, you know,
attained ever since. There's still some people who still believe
that Donald Trump is a rush An agent. So Barack Obama,
he was the one who held the meeting, who came
(23:07):
up with this, or instructed his minions Brennan and co.
To do his bidding and create this false intelligence assessment.
And he's gotten off scott free. And you just hear
rumbles sometimes, you know, when I interview some senior administration people,
that maybe Barack Obama is not going to get off
(23:28):
scott free. So I think he might be worried and
he's trying to keep his profile high so that it
seems like if they do in diet him, will come
after him in some way that he can pretend that
it's because he's such a potent political adversary, they're trying
to neutralize him.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Ah. Interesting, So hey, Miranda Devine, your latest calm. It's
a great combat the violence, which is all coming from
the left. Yet all the you know, the Biden types
kept talking about ultra maga domestic terrorists. Will the public
ever get the story straight from the regular media?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I don't think so. It really is quite scary and
sinister that you still have the New York Times talking about,
you know, domestic terrorism being a right wing issue and
talking about right wing violence that is so outdated if
it was ever true at all. And they always rely
(24:31):
on January sixth, which was a riot at the Capitol
and reprehensible those people who broke in and you made
a mess, I guess, and fought with police more importantly,
but they were a minority of the Trump supporters who
turned up at the capitol, and many of those who
(24:51):
were indicted in the biggest FBI investigation in its history. Ridiculously,
we didn't even go into the Capitol. They were totally peaceful.
This was an unarmed protest or turned into a riot,
and only one person was killed, and that was Ashley
Babbitt by a Capital police officer who was then protected
(25:15):
and his name was suppressed, etc. Unlike all the cops
we had seen on the other side, and unlike the
reaction to the Summer of Love, the BLM and TIFA
riots that we all suffered through in twenty twenty, this
was brought up as if it was worse than Pearl Harbor.
(25:36):
That's what Kamala Harrison, Joe Biden said, worse than nine
to eleven the Capitol right. That went on for a
couple of hours. So the New York Times and the
Washington Posts go along with that narrative. And I don't
see them ever breaking from the Democrat narrative. And you're
seeing them even with their anti Israel, the New York
Times with its disgusting anti Israel lies, there's still running
(26:00):
the left wing playbooks.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah. Yeah, and you've had how many three assassination temps
on the president, plus if you count the guy with
the bomb heading to mar Alago. That's for you were
sitting there right at the White House Correspondence dinner when
that happened.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Yes, I was, and you know, it was remarkable how
calm and sanguine Donald Trump was just even while it
was all happening. He sort of just surveyed the room,
and I guess he saw that there was an immediate
danger from his vantage point up high, looking towards the
(26:38):
back of the room. I was sitting up the front,
facing towards him the stage, and so all I heard
was some plates what sounded like plates or glasses breaking,
and I just thought, Oh, a waiter's dropped a tray.
How embarrassing for them. And then everyone around me just
(26:59):
got under the table because I think, if you grew
up in America, which I didn't, you maybe I used to.
You've been trained, you've been drilled into, you know, take cover.
So I wasn't. So I was sitting there like a
bunny looking around and would have been a sitting duck
if if there had been a gunman in there, which
(27:21):
there could have been. And then I eventually went down,
and then Scott Bessant, who was I was sitting next
to Treasury Secretary by kindly offered me to go with him.
So we went back to his house and I continue
doing some work from back there. But it was, you know,
another frightening reminder of the fear. And well he doesn't
(27:45):
feel fear, it doesn't seem, but certainly the threat around
Donald Trump, they're never going to stop trying to kill him,
whether it be left wing assassin's young men who have
been groomed I believe, like Thomas Crooks, or whether it's Iran.
You know, whether Iran is behind any of these other attempts.
(28:06):
We know certainly there was one Iranian well he was
not Iranian, but he was ordered by the IRGC in
Iran to take out Donald Trump. And he was convicted
recently in New York. So these threats are known by
the Secret Service, by the CIA, by the FBI. I
(28:27):
think we just see the tip of the iceberg. And
it's really remarkable that President Trump just you know, popped
up just very shortly after that, gave a press conference
in his tuxedo and was just you know, making jokes
and on top of things and making everybody calm, because
I think you had the whole press gallery who then
(28:49):
had to assemble over at the White House, and they
I think they were calmed by the fact that he
wasn't panicked. I think the entire country gets calmed, just
like at Butler when he stood up and raised his
fist in the air, blood streaming down his face, and
said fight, fight, Fight. It just makes you realize that
things are not spiraling out of control. The president is
(29:12):
still the president, He's still in charge. And for most
Americans who aren't psychopaths or totally unhinged, that's a good thing.
And let's hope on keeping on well.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Miranda Divine brilliant as always. Great talking to you. Everybody
listened to her podcast, You'll love it. It's Pod force
one Interviews with Everybody, the President, the Vice President, pod
Force one. Get her best selling books, The Big Guy
and Laptop from Hell. Read her column of course The
New York Post. Miranda Divine, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I take care. Hey, well, we've got a lot more
coming up. We'll take some calls. I'd lots to talk about.
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