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I am actually splitting up this show into two because
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he's so phenomenal and we talked for an hour and
I was like, ah, so good, I can't get rid
of any of it. So Part one today with Peter mcelvenna.
He is the host of Hearts of Oak podcast, former
advisor to the UK Parliament and former campaign manager for
the UK Independence Party. He had an awesome article out
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in the Daily Signal. He writes for a bunch of
different publications, but he had this article out and it
was all about the grooming gangs in London and what
is happening in the UK and the rape inquiry that's
currently happening with a Member of Parliament by the name
of Rupert Lowe, and it's behind closed doors. Unfortunately, they
were hoping for a transparent hearing, but it's not what
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we got in any event. Here's part one of my
interview with Peter mcleven. Welcome everybody to the Rogue Recap.
I am Lynda McLaughlin, your host. Follow us at Rogue
Recap at Linda mik YadA, YadA, YadA. You know what
to do, please do it. So I've got a great
guest today. As you guys know, I don't do a
lot of guests because most people are dumb. This guy's
actually wicket smart. It's a great friend. He and I
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share a common friend and Sarah Potter also wicket smart,
but she's the drugsar. Right now, you can't talk shit anymore.
You just got to play it straight. So we're going
to do it for her. So Peter Mclevinnett is the
founder and co host of the Hearts of Ook podcast.
He's the former campaign manager for the UK Independence Party
and now he's here with us because he's gotten smarter, wiser, brighter, younger,
all the things. He's got a great article in the
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Daily Signal. For those of you that follow the podcast,
follow my social media. You know how much I love
babies and puppies. Don't mess with the kids, don't mess
with the animals, and we're going to be fine. But
in UK they got a massive grooming problem. Massive So
they've had this ongoing rape trial that was supposed to
be fully transparent, unfettered access to what was happening, and
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Rupert Lowe is handling it over there right, Peter, welcome
to the show. Jumping right in. I know you're shocked,
and I'm really I'm really upset about the fact that
he did this crowdfunding. He raised like eight hundred thousand
dollars or something, and now we don't know what's going on.
We're getting bits and pieces, but I feel like between
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Sadikon and between Curestormer and then we've got Evett Cooper
And as you can see, I'm really following this because
I feel like whatever's happening in Europe is going to
happen in the United States in five years. Quite frankly,
I think it's already happening here, but people are just
like asleep at the switch.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So I agree, And as I haven't had a job
offer with the Trump administration, well so's I'll say what
I like and I fin with your sentiments that we
can talk whatever fits. But this is and my I
mean I was on on Opening War Room yesterday and
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talking about that this is all pattern recognition. This is
what is happening in the UK, This is happening in Europe,
and this is why your American audience need understand because
whatever happens across the pond will move over and Islam
does not respect that little stretch of waters, not respect borders,
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and you're finding that on your southern border with your
mass immigration from the southern border, and there's no respect
of oh this is a border, let's get our passports. No,
hell no, we just pile in. And that's what we
are scene in Europe. That's what we're scene in the UK.
And that the article I wrote on Daily Signal was
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was highlighting the good and the frustration of the what
Rupert lewe member of parliament for in the southeast of
England in Great Yarmouth, and he was a member with
Nigel Farage, who your audience I think will know well
because he is a figure on the national stage and
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Rupert Nigel had a clash whatever that was, I have
no idea, but they fell out and Rippert went to
become an independent member of parliament and he launched this
inquiry in the grooming gangs, the Muslim rip gangs that
have been happening since at least nineteen seventy five. That's
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the first report we had in the Rotherham Advertiser, in
that local newspaper. So this will be going on for
fifty one years plus and everyone has failed to grasp this.
We are now up to one million girls affected. That
was Sarah Champion, who is a Member of Parliament for
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one of the epicenters of this area in Rotherham, and
she is a Labor MP, so someone on the left
who wouldn't expect to actually highlight this issue, but simply
because where she is the member of parliament, she has
had to talk about this and credit to her she
has been vocal on this issue. She has been too
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vocal and has been sacked by the Labor Party on
at least on occasion, I think on a second occasion,
because she highlighted the failures of the institutions to recognize
the huge problem that we face with these Muslim rape gangs,
and she talked about I think in a Daily Mirror article,
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one of our UK newspapers, she talked about up to
one million girls being affected. That was about six years ago.
And you look at the figures of what has happened
in the UK.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
We have had.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Ninety trials in forty times. Some of those trials, those
legal trials have been up to thirty individuals. We have
had five hundred and fifty individuals prosecuted, sentence prosecuted and
serving time in jail for mass rape of children and
funnily enough or not funny enough, over ninety percent of
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those individuals or Muslim Pakistani. So we do have a problem,
a religious problem, a cultural problem. But of course the
media don't want to talk about that because he don't
want to risk rats. So that's kind of a little
intro into where we are. And Ripert Lew as an
independent MP, has decided to do an inquiry because the
government don't want to do one. The government said they'll
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do one, or We've had ten prior kind of inquiries
into this issue, but all of them have gone wrong
the issue. All of them said, this is local issues,
not national issues, not religious, it's cultural blah blah blah.
We've had recommendations. Now they're implemented. And because of all
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of those failings, ripper Low, credit to him, has started
this inquiry and that's happening this week, is happening next week.
My frustration is that he didn't make it public. It
was going to be a public inquiry, live stream for
the public sea and for me on this issue, you
need transparency in the openness the public hapency was had.
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You can cut the feed for some and for some witnesses.
You can change the voice. You can say for the
next two hours, we're going to cut the feed. We'll
come back to you in two hours. You can do
all different things. It's called technology. And he's decided just
to do a full full stop And I wanted to
go as a journalist and report on it and right
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for many US publications to highlight what was happening. But
it was a you're not coming in doors locked, So
I don't even know where it is. And it's for
any journal is there MA understanding no, even GB News,
MA understanding is no.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And I've looked into this. I even so Rupert Loewe.
So this is just just jud and me, Linda.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
So Rippert Lou put a picture on X and he
said a picture of where it's a picture of him
on the front table with a barter, the legal representative
and Sammy.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Woodhouse is a survivor.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
And I tried to locate it, you know, use chat
and use yeah, but AI failed miserably. So I don't
know where it is. And even if it's happening, you
need transparency. The public need to know what's happening, and
transparency will expose the evils and therefore we get justice.
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And if you do pink closed doors, it's not good.
So there's my and true to you, Linda.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
So my question to you, and thank you for that intro,
because you are a wealth of knowledge on this subject.
And honestly, I read your article on the Daily Signal
and if you haven't read it, everybody please Peter mcklevan
an amazing article. I'm actually going to bring it up
because there was a point in here that you made
that I thought was really poignant and important, And the
title of it is the urgent need for the UK's
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Muslim Rape Gang Inquiry and lessons for the United States,
which I agree with your categories with it too, But
it says here that there's over fourteen hundred reported rapes
that they have just in botherdom. And I'm trying to understand,
you know, I always say, when you read things like
that and you see these these you know estimates, that's
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just what we know about. That's not that's not at
all the number, right, So it's kind of like when
we talk about Iran when they say, oh, how many
people have been slaughtered in the streets of Iran. Well,
if you read you know, any of the woke left mainstream,
they'll tell you it's, you know, eight thousand. Maybe, first
of all, eight thousand should not be you should not
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be apathetic to eight thousand. Let's just start there. But
the bottom line is you go to WhatsApp and you're
in a chat with people that are on the ground
in Iran, and they're telling you there might be forty
to seventy thousand people dead. We don't even know but
I digress. I think for this issue, there's there's two
main questions I have for you. The first is because
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of the onslaught of this Pakistani migration, and it's overwhelming.
I will tell you I was in London five years
ago and I was in Trafalgar Square and I felt
like I was in Pakistan. There were no white people,
there were no black people, there were no Asian people,
there were just Pakistanis. And I was walking through the
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streets and I was like, man, this is a little
this is weird, you know, I feel out of place.
And I hadn't been there. I think I was there
one time before, but I hadn't been there in many years.
So it was a shock, to be honest. And I
asked other people who worked there, you know, at the
hotels and such, and they were like, oh, yeah, we
are the unicorns here, like everyone else is Pakistani. So
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my question to you is who is implementing this need
for this migration, Where is this coming from? Who is
okay with it? Because I have to assume that everyday
British people, I mean, we look at Tommy Robinson. Both
of us are friends with him, and he is out
there crushing it every day and millions of people are
showing up. You know, true British citizens. They're not okay
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with this.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
So and you're right.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I wish I could take you to London, liand A,
but actually it may not be a great experience. So
with you go with the history and what you remember.
But it is mass immigration. And look we had and
you get on your southern border. We in the UK
have that little stretch of water called English Channel and
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that separate France from England. I believe it's the busiest
stretch of water for that size, about thirty miles wide,
and every ship goes through that because of course Britain
is an island and therefore you need to bring in
the goods either by air or by sea, and by
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sea is the way you do it. So we've got
massive ports. Sadly, our biggest port on the side issue
is owned by Dubai Ports, so sown by the Middle East.
Just to fit into this of islam dominance. But we've
had mass immigration. I think it changed in the nineties.
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It changed under Tony Blair as Prime Minister, who brought
in a new labor wave from ninety seven to two
thousand until the Conservatives came back in. Conservatives and name
only came back in under David Cameron and then lots
of other prime ministers, ending the Boris Johnson, Rishisu Nak.
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But under that labor we had prior to that, we
had maybe thirty forty thousand net migration figures. That was
actually you could cope with that, You could those people
could integrate, those could fit into society, jobs, they get it,
fit into public transport. All of that worked. It was
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a juggling knac but that absolutely worked. Then as you
have faced on your southern border, suddenly the figures went
up exponentially and we have now gone from thirty forty
thousand net migration figure to nine hundred thousand, just under
a million. So if you increase it by thirty times,
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you've got an issue. But second to that, if you
have that massive immigration from cultures and religions that don't
fit into your way of life, you've got a problem.
If you've got a million coming in from cultures that
want to integrate and be part of your society, then
there's an argument to be made on whether that's good
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or bad. Whenever that culture and religion or alien to
your society and that's where the problem fits. That we
have got individuals coming over from society is that don't
have any respect women, because Islam teaches women or second
class citizens, they have half or a quarter of the right. Legally,
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if there are any custody cases, the man gets automatic
right to the children, the woman does not. If there's
any divorce, the man decided divorce you three times, the
woman is divorced, she's on the street. So none of
this fits in too. We are all equal because we
are all made in the image of God. And that's
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where it fits. If you abandon your Christian principles, if
you abandon your understanding that we are all made in
the image of God, we are all equal, whatever religion, risk, color, creed, sexuality, whatever,
we are all equal because we are made the image
of God. When you move outside that to Islam, and
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Islam doesn't recognize made an image of God at all.
Therefore you've got this inequality, and you've got women being
treated differently.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
You've got those.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Who leave Islam as apostas treated horrendously and often subject
to punishment of death. You've got the whole issue of
shame and honor and how women are treated if they
leave Islam, or if there is a divorce, or if
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a man sleeps the woman outside marriage, I believe it's
the man to prove.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
The man was not wrong.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
The woman needs to produce up to four witnesses in
a in a rip situation, that's not going to happen.
So it is all geared towards against the woman and
for the man. And because of all of these we
have got a sudden imbalance.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
We've got women being treated as dirt.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
We've got men having the right to do what they
want to do and take the woman if they feel
they want to take them, because that is how they believe.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
So whenever you a.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Belief system, a way of viewing others that are.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Not you, you've.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Got a problem. And that is the dire problem we
have in the UK. That's the dire problem. In Germany.
I've seen many signs, I know, but in swimming pools
they have signs telling men not to sexually abuse women.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I kind of learned that in school.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Oh but if you people who didn't come up in
school in the UK or in Ireland, maybe they saw
things differently. And that is the problem. We are expecting
everyone to think the same despite the fact that maybe
you have a different educational upbringing, and therefore you bring
men who have only seen women covered head to foot,
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which is what I see anywhere I.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Go out in London.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Bar a handful of places, but ninety percent of London
you see the women head to fit, Friday prayers, the
mental filling out in the footpaths, blocking the footpaths. The women,
of course don't have a right to go. They need
to go to a separate entrance because they're unclean. All
of this, and we haven't had this grown up conversation
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of whether this is positive for society or negative. And
then into that you've got the ripe gangs, because the
men see women not fully clued. Maybe the only woman
they've seen fully unclued is their mother or their sister,
and they see these women and they think they have
their right to take them and do as they want.
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And we simply are not having an adult, grown up
conversation of is this good for society or is this bad?
And you will have the same conversation in America. It's
not only a problem up in Michigan. It's a problem
in Texas, a problem in California, it's a problem in
New York and ex and Florida and on. And you
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need bull leaders to actually stand against this, and not
just as the I don't mean the de size. And
if your politicians, but as one of your governors have
annoynced we're baling Sharia.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
What does that mean? You need to go through the House.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
And the Senate of the state, past legislation and do
it step by step. A decree does not stop anything.
You need to legally go through the process.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, I think, first of all, I agree with you.
I mean one hundred times over. I you know, when
I was in school, I studied the Quran. I wanted
to understand my enemy, and I was I mean, I
remember people saying, well, you shouldn't say they're your enemy.
I'm like, they are my enemy because Allah and Islam
is not compatible with anything other than Allah and Islam.
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It's not they're not compatible with the West or the East,
or they're not compatible with anything. There is no place,
no time in history ever, anywhere, past or present, that
we have ever seen Islam come into any society and
not take over, maim, rape, kill in the name of
their God. And obviously when you talk to people, they
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know nothing they don't know what a kafir is, which
is a non Islam person. They don't know what the
practice of takia is. They don't understand that people who
practice Islam think all of what we're seeing is horrible
as completely and utterly accepted by Allah. Now, Allah obviously
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was a pedophile. Those of us who actually read and
know our history are fully aware that this man thought
it was fine to take a child and rape them,
and rape them again until they were able to procreate,
and then rape the kids that he made with the child.
I'm like, what is happening now? What I am having
trouble with? And this is what I continue to say
to many people when I look at Kure Starmer, now
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I think, here Starmer is a feckless moral So we'll
put that over there. I don't want to get you
in trouble because you have to live there. I am afraid,
sincerely for you, guys. What in God's great name is
going on with Cure Starmer? He's married, he has kids, right,
doesn't he have children?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I believe he has two children.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yes, yes, I'm trying to understand as a parent, like
there are certain people like Angela Merkel, right, it's just
like a complete silo weirdo. No kids. You want to
pass laws about children and all the things. It's ridiculous,
Like you don't have kids. You don't know what it
is to talk about vaccines or schooling or like, it's
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it's an unknown area for you. You speak of things
you know nothing about. That to me is very irritating.
You can give an opinion, but you can't speak from
a place of knowledge. Now when it comes to Islam,
I felt like, oh, I need to speak from a
place of knowledge, so I'm gonna study this. Then we
have cure Starmer and here he's like, Nope, ex is terrible.
We're gonna scan all your phones when you come into
the country. We're gonna arrest you for social media posts.
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And that Muslim guy over there who's sixty three years
old who just raped a little boy, he's fine, he
can go. And I'm like, I'm sorry what I just
don't understand either. They've got pictures of him, they have
paid him off. I just don't like. It's kind of
like when you look at the Epstein files and everybody
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in our country's freaking out about the Epstein files, and
I'm like Okay, Like for me, it's not that I'm
not interested, it's just that there is so much demonic
behavior happening. And I say that with sincerity, not as
you know, sort of this adjective to be tossed lightly.
It is demonic. You are tapping into something that is
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so evil. And I truly feel like, if you're not
taking care of your elderly and you're not taking care
of your kids, we got a massive issue. So this
is an entire culture that does not like women, likes
to abuse children, thinks dogs are dirty, like all these
help things, and it seems like, oh, but you know,
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every culture is different. I'm like, no, I don't ever
see a Hasidic person or a Sikh person or a
Buddhist person and think, oh, I hope they don't stab me.
I hope they don't rape me. You know, we got
all these two A freaks here in the United States
and they're like, oh, that's I'm like, are you going
to ban knives in the UK because we got a
massive stabbing problem going on, Like, it's it's not it's
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not your weapon of choice, it's the person using the weapon.
And to your point, until we can have an adult conversation,
we never get to the answers, and so I guess
my question is when you're having this rape inquiry as
it is, and I think you make excellent points about
Lowe's decision, because I thought we were going to get
to watch this. I thought we were going to get
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to hear from the victims, because when you hear from
the victims. There's a child bride. I'm sure you've seen
her out on X right now, and she's been giving
her testimony when she was sold into sex slavery from Iron.
She managed to escape. I don't know how, and I'm
not gonna I wouldn't even if I knew, I wouldn't
divulge it because I would hope somebody else could use
that same path. Right, But she talks about what it
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is like to be seven and married to a fifty
year old man who probably could be your grandfather and
instead is raping you every day and being and you're
being passed around and what that is. And I don't
Whenever I hear things like sexually assaulted or sex trafficked,
I get very upset. I'm like, it's not sex, it's rape,
it's assault of the worst kind. And so when I
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see krestarmer full circle back to him not speaking out
but instead clamping down on transparency, shutting down X, shutting
down social media posts. Why what's he getting out of it? Peter?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
So that is a big question, right, Wow?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
So okay, so kearstar.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Look, we've just seen the rids on the X offices
in France and the UK have got some of the
most stringent restrictions on free speech in the Online Safety Act.
The Europeans did the Digital Services Act within days of
the UK, so obviously they're working together. Australia have been
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working on other restrictions as well. We seem to have
to me, it boils down that we seem to have
the elites worried about the transfer of information and they're
no longer controlling it because in the UK, the BBC,
just like the PBS and the US, they no longer
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had their hands on. They no longer control the flow
of information and we must come in for all his faults. Actually,
he shook the whole system up and he said actually
X is going to be a free speech platform, and
he has done a great deal on highlighting the rip
gangs in the UK. I remember wakening up it's not
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a year ago. Oh my goodness. When I was over
Northern Ireland to Christmas a year ago and wakening up
on the first of January twenty twenty five looking at
my phone and seeing Elon Musk was promote was posting
about Tommy Robinson and I thought, maybe I'm dreaming. This
is just a good dream. I should go to bed again.
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But no, he was highlighting the work that Tommy was doing.
He'd highlighted the work of others in opposing mass immigration
in a couple of months up to them, and then
has highlighted the feelings of these Muslim rip gangs, the
groomy gangs across the UK. And without him, actually this
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would not be an international incident, this would remain a
UK problem. But because of individuals like Elon Musk, we've
had a light shone on this and has been exposed
and Kearstormer well, Elon Musk calls them two tier care
for the two tier legal system and judicial system of
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political system that we have in the UK and Carestormer,
as many others, was happy to turn a blind eye
to rip gangs. But and it could take two years,
three years for those individuals to get to court and
get the trial. But hey, if you stand up against
mass immigration, we will make the courts run day and
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night and we will send you to jail in forty
eight hours. Where was that urgency for the rip gangs?
And it is it is. I share your anger, lind
at times ten living here and other anger at our
politicians for thinking the problem is those who hide out
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the injustice as opposed to problem being those who commit
the crimes. And that is where we are.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
In the UK.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
That's where we are in Europe in terms of Sweden
having fallen, in terms of Germany haveing huge issues, in
terms of France having Spain and Spain. But in Europe
we've got a politico uprising. We've got Maloney in it
doing what she can do, less than what we thought,
but actually maybe getting on board the FD pulling top
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in Germany, the FU pulling top in Austria, or band
doing what he is doing, pulling together I know the
patriots of your So there's a lot.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Happening in Europe.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Sadly in the UK and Ireland we are on the
back foot and despite the good work I think that
Nigel frag is doing on the Reform Party despite the
fact that actually he could be Prime Minister in twenty
twenty nine at the next next election. He is afraid
of tackling the issue of and that's why I think
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we will fail in the UK to address this problem.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
So to that point, I was looking at, you know,
Marine Penn and how now they're trying to completely block
her from doing anything because she did just that. She
spoke out and she said, I will clear the streets
of Paris. I will make sure that you guys are
all repatriated to wherever the hell you came from. You know,
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if you're from North Africa, if you're from Tunisia, if
you're from Pakistan, where the hell you're from, get on
a boat, paddle your ass back. We're not even going
to send you. Use that energy that you're using to
tackle every single single woman at the Champsalis or beneath
the Eiffel Tower. You know, a good kick in the
pants never hurt anybody. But Macron, I mean, where do
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you go with Macron? What a douche. But I mean
it's just I mean, how much time do you have, right?
I mean, everybody gets so caught up in him and
his wife or whatever she is I could give a
shit less. Honestly, I only care about one thing. What
you do in your personal life. I really don't care
about I don't I really care when you try to
push that shit on kids, when you hurt kids, when
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you hurt puppies. I stick to those things. That's where
I live. If you as too consenting adults, want to
do whatever you want to do and act like a
bunch of freaks in your bedroom, knock yourself out, just
leave everybody else out of it. That's all. That's where
we get lost with them, because again it comes back
to being demonic. And when I look at what's happening
in Ireland, I mean, my god, they not only they
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have problems, right then they elect the most socialist leader
of their time. Now, I will say this very gently,
I do not believe that the Irish people elected this woman.
I do not. I believe that what we are uncovering
now in the United States and what be known since
we've seen the twenty twenty election, and I think that
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what we will begin to discover more if the people
at the helm of it keep up their courage, you know,
have the bulls to continue to look into what actually
is happening with elections, which I believe is nefarious and
it's not about any particular company. I think this has
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probably been going on for twenty five thirty years, but
I truly believe that it is worldwide, and I think
it is global terror. You know, in some countries, they
don't give a shit, right, They're like, oh, you want
an election, we'll tough. Shit, We're not doing it. I'm
the boss. Get in line. Fine, Okay, that happens. At
least we know where everybody stands. All right, you guys,
We're gonna leave it right there for now. So check
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