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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One hour two Sean Hennity Show, eight hundred and nine
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foot one Shawn, if you want to be a part
of the program, if you're just joining us. The FBI
released surveillance photos videos of a potential suspect and the
investigation into the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of
the co anchor of The Today Show, Savannah Guthrie. Four
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images depicting a person wearing gloves, mask, backpack appearing to
tamper with the camera and cover up the recording that
obviously they figured was going on. The FBI director Cash
Pattel said the potential suspect is armed. The FBI said
yesterday it had not identified any suspects or persons of interest,
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same with local law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Now. She's been missing since.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
She was dropped off outside of her home at her
home outside of Tucson on the night of January thirty.
First reported missing on February first. Today it is February tenth.
We're in day ten now. The FBI has launched a
web page with details about the disappearance. By the way,
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if you're in Tucson and listening to this program, though
the Sheriff's Department is asking Tucson residents to keep the
nine to one to one line open in case people
have real emergencies. The FBI director Cash Bettel visited the
Tucson command center in this case yesterday. The Guthrie family
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does not recognize the person in the surveillance images. They
are asking the public for help if anybody can maybe
have suspects that they might know who this person is.
The President has weighed in on this. He saw the
images the videos. His reaction was pure disgusted, according to
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Caroline Levitt, and also that the President again pledging his
support for the family and offering all federal assistants. And
you know, this is really the first break in the case.
Savannah Guthrie posts the video said someone out there recognizes
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this person. And again, everybody, if you have any information,
you know, call it in. What the videos show of
the potential suspect images, you know, person wearing gloves, mask,
khaki sneakers, backpack, appearing to tamper with the camera at
the front door of the morning on the morning of
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the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. The person's eyes are visible
through the holes in the mask. The images and videos
don't show a vehicle nearby, though it may be elsewhere
on the street, and you know that's where we are
at this particular time. But it's certainly the biggest break
we've had in ten days. He had to break it
all down and unpack all of this. Jason Pack retired
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FBI Supervisory special Agent and hostage nego negotiator. Nicole Parker's
with Us, author of the bestseller of the two FBI
is also a Box News contributor. Nicole's start with you,
what do you glean from all of this today? I
think the first breakthrough we've had. I think this may
be what ultimately cracks the case, and I'm certainly hopeful
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that it does.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I agree with you, Sean, this is monumental for this investigation,
and this is what the gut three family has been
waiting for.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Up until today, it seemed like things were kind of
stalling out with the ransom deadlines. Yesterday, nothing really seemed
to be happening. But rest assured that behind the scenes,
there's a lot more going on than we're aware of,
and the FBI is going full force. And this video
and these images, there will be someone who will watch
this and say, look, I recognize that person I have
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to turn them in, and you do have to turn
them in, and the tip line is eight hundred cll FBI.
So right now the FBI is gathering obviously all of
the tips coming in. But one thing that I think
is very interesting is that there are people that the
FBI had been looking at, I believe as potential persons
of interests although they have not named a suspect. They
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have not named, you know, a person of interest. Obviously,
right now I'm watching lives coverage, there are agents and
investigators that are at Annie Guthrie's neighbor's home. Okay, I
don't know that that's a coincidence, But what this does
is now, whoever did this and their image is now
has been seen by millions of people, and it will
be seen by millions more. They're on notice the gig
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is up?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
They do do you think celebrate? Is what? Actually?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
This technology that we've been discussing, you know, since this happened,
do you think that played a part in them able
to being able to retrieve this video?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So the private sector company, I'm not sure which one
it was that they worked with the FBI, because originally
they said, you know, we're not. The FBI didn't think
that they were going to be able to get these images.
But that's not going to work in this investigation. They're
going to keep digging in deep. Celebrate is actually used
to image cellular telephones, tablets, computers, things of that sort.
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So I think the actual image from this it may
have been used because again it can be used to
image doorbell cameras and things of that sort. But it
really was the private corporation that worked with the FBI
because originally they didn't think that they'd be able to
obtain this. They didn't accept no as an answer, and
they continue to get it because remember they said that
she didn't have a paid subscription. Well, depending on the
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type of camera that she had, potentially I'm not sure
in this instance, but you can get potentially three hours
of feed without a subscription. Let's say if it was
a Nest Aware Plus camera, but we don't know the
exact detail of what it was, but let me tell
you they celebrate. That's extremely crucial right now because remember
they've imaged the devices, likely of the surrounding family members,
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those in her immediate contact. They're going to be going
in and looking at communications and I just look at
these images. Sean. I don't know about you, but those eyes,
those are very telling. The eyebrows.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I totally agree with you. So you know. I have
my own theories.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I'm going to keep them to myself for now, but
I've got I would not be surprised if we have
an arrest tonight or within the next twenty four hours.
I would not be surprised at all. And hopefully the
recovery of Nancy Guthrie, I'm hoping and I'm not going
to give up on that hope. Let me ask you,
as a retired supervisory special agent and hostage negotiator, Jason,
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you know there was one FBI special agent's Lance Lessing
I think is his name, based in Arizona. You know
said in legitimate ransom case hidnappers usually move fast. They
established leverage quickly, Communication begins within hours, not days of abduction,
proof of life is produced early, and often the opposite
happened here. As a professional hostage and a gootiator, you know,
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how Will, what is the best way to handle this.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Well, Sean, I think the family handled it exactly correctly.
You have to treat it like it's real, even though
it doesn't fit any statistical patterns that may pop up.
So the family did exactly the right thing. They worked
with the FBI's crisis Negotiation Unit and the negotiators there
from the Tucson ra to craft these messages to see
if anybody would come back. And so when that didn't happen,
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as Nicole mentioned earlier, I've been on the work. I've
been in these command posts where I've been the one
working on these alternative theories and working on the not
the shiny object that everybody else is pursuing, but these
other alternative theories. And you've seen the results of that today.
So just think if they would have waited to start
doing that now, they haven't been. They've been working on
it hard. And it sounds like that this has gone
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all the way to the FBI's computer scientists, and they
it sounds like, I don't know if they're on the
same workbench and they're at Google and the Nest company
and trying to work with them to make sure to
get the state out. But whatever they did, they found
the proverbial needle in the haystack. It's actually remarkable work
by the agents.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I don't know, Nicole, have you been able to see
what people have been doing online. And I can't affirm
at one hundred percent, but they do reverse lighting and
you get a much clearer image.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Is that real?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I believe that they'll be able to refine these images
even more and I think that there's actually going to
be even more evidence coming out. Remember that they took
that camera off of the roof a few days after
the fact, and so I do think that they'll be
able to get it even more refined. But talking about
the ransom emails, and I agree, I think that these
ransoms are usually the more and more as times passing,
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I'm beginning to think it as a false flag. I'm
beginning to think that the offender actually used that to
distract law enforcement resources because the ransoms are usually very succinct.
They're usually straightforward, and the directions are minimal, and those
are the typical three key elements of a ransom, and
we didn't see that in this. We saw the two
tier deadline in between a Thursday and a Monday, and
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usually the ransom. You know, sometimes agrievance can be surmised
from the ransom, not always, but the ransom states what
the offender wants, how they want it and the timeframe
which they have to act and they want it to
move quickly. In this instance, they didn't want it to
move quickly. It's as if the offender wanted more time
to do what they needed to do. And if this
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was a false flag meaning that the offender was involved
in the ransom email is starting to make sense now,
or if it was just a full on hoax. But
what we do know is that, based on our understanding,
there was no ransom paid, and so it leads to.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Best do we know that for sure?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
We know it wasn't paid to the original letters wallet
their crypto wallet.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Again, we don't know for certain because again TMZ received
the first ransom email, they didn't receive the second. They
had the wallet address for the first email. Potentially the
second one may have had different instructions, but let's say
that it was the first. Hypothetically speaking, those are public.
The blockchain is public, like those transactions. That ledger is
public to the person that knows the wallet address.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And so to are not if they do transfer it
within minutes, they could be transferring it and buying other
crypto and selling it, and you know, they could be
doing a million different things that would not be traceable
at that point, am I right?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, no, it would always have to hit the ledger though,
that initial transaction to get to the six million dollars
that they required in bitcoin, that would that would show
up on the ledger.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Let me let me go back to this issue of
hostage negotiation. I mean, give us examples of what usually
happens in a hostage negotiation. Now, there are some people
that called me and said, under no circumstances do they
think anybody should ever pay? And I just flat out disagree.
I think that's got to be an individualized decision. And
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you know, I mean, how would you live with yourself
if you can afford to pay, or or raised the
money to pay, and it ends up because you didn't say,
they end up killing somebody. I don't know if I
could live with myself, Jason, right, Sean.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, you're right, Sean, It's absolutely correct. And these are
transactional things people plan. People who do kidnappings for ransom
want the money. They want to make it easy to communicate.
They certainly do not go on national television or local
TV stations with our ransom demand. They want to stay
in control of that. They want to have a private
line to the family so they can go back and
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forth and give that proof of life and get the
ball rolling. As far as making, you know, making that transaction,
we didn't see that here. I do want to point out, Sean,
I was on the stage at the Boston Marathon bombing
press conference. I flipped one of those posters over revealing
black hat and white hat, and that next twenty four
to forty eight hours after that photograph was out, there
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was super chaotic, and it's this is going to be
the best chance that law enforcement has, that the FBI has,
now that that subject's photos out there, to capture him.
He's these likely, like Jole said, has seen himself on
the news worldwide, on every phone, on every billboard, and
now what does he do. He's got some decisions to make.
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If he knows where Miss Nancy is, does he move her,
does he flee? What does he do? This puts a
tremendous amount of pressure, and that's what law enforcement is
counting on to make a mistake, to find this person.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, that's what everybody's hope is. Nicole, What do you
want to add?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You know, I kind of in law enforcement we talk
a lot about tickling the wire, and that's what you
kind of this is almost a form of tickling the wire,
like we want the suspect to know, hey, we're on you,
and we want to see how certain people respond. So again,
law enforcements can be looking closely at the people and
the guthries direct because I think everyone at this point
we're not certain, but a lot of people agree that
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it's probably someone that knew Nancy, that was either close
to her and her circle of close friends or contacts
or even family members. So right now law enforcement is
going to be seeing how certain people react the other thing.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That they or maybe people that worked on the prey at.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Some point, exactly a home care nurse, a pool cleaner,
any of those things that were you know, home care workers.
But again, John, it may not be the individual who
potentially had a grievance. It could be that they paid
someone to do it. I've worked murdered for higher cases.
The actual person who orchestrates it may never have entered
the crime scene. It could be the person with the issue,
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the offender could be on the scene, or it could
be the offender with the grievance behind the scenes, conspiring
and sending someone else in to do the dirty work,
and so there's many layers of complex you know, complexity
complexities here. But it's important to note that taking these
images and the tips, and now they're going to comb
it together and they're going to piece it with the
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technological artifacts and the evidence. They're going to look to
see what cell phones were trying to connect to that router,
that Wi Fi router. Were there any you know, people
that were trying to connect their phone, you know, like
when you go into a phone and says, would you
like to connect to the Wi Fi? Was that happening
between the hours that this individual within the home? How
were they And these are types of things that law
enforcement isn't giving to the public, but I guarantee you
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that's what's happening, and that the pacemaker, the pacemaker is huge.
That pacemaker a sess but cannot take that outside of
you know, it would take a lot of work for
them to you know, disconnect the pacemaker inside of her body,
whether the app was continuing to function or not. That
pacemaker continues to work, and there's an app and there's
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a cloud, and there's a company that has all of
that data, and I guarantee you the FBI is going
through that very very closely.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Would it give them the location?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I think, I'm not I can't speak certain of that,
but I believe if someone is alive, that pacemaker is
going to continue to work, and if someone is not,
that pacemaker is likely not going to continue to work.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Okay, And we appreciate both of you. Jason Pack, thank you.
Nicole Parker. We'll see you on TV tonight. We appreciate
you both. All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Let's say hi to Michael. He's in Saint Louis. Michael, Hi,
how are you glad you called?
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I just wanted to say, Number one, thank you for
all that you do.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Love listen, thank you for letting me do it. I
love doing what I do, and I'm blessed to do
what I do.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Well, anyway, I just wanted to say quickly because I
know I'm on the radio. Despite any political you know,
Savannah and this or that, I think we're blessed to
live in a country that this rarely happens. And I
think that even if she wasn't related to Savannah, that
this would be a big deal. And it's got me
feeling like Denzel Washington and Man on Fire.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
You know, I'm I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Denzel Washington is one of my favorite actors. I think
he's great. I think he's amazing. He's so good, so
he's so diverse in the roles that he can play.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
He's really good in his.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Personal life too, which I appreciate absolutely.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No, I agree.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Look, you know, but for whatever reason, and I guess
Linda could weigh more than me on this because she
reads a lot more social media than I do. But
I got word from Blair, who does our social media,
that I was getting hammered because one night I said,
I don't want this to be interpreted as being political,
but if you want to know, when I say, every
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life matters, That's why this story matters. That's why we
talk about how many people are shot and shot and
killed in Chicago every weekend. And it's it's mind numbing
to me that if you can't politicize it and weaponize
it or use it against Donald Trump, you don't know
the names of the people shot and shot and killed
every weekend, and nobody lifts a finger to help these people.
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That's why when ICE is risking their lives, to rescue
people and to arrest you know child, you know, molesters
and murderers and rapists, other violent criminals and terrorists.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I'm like, wow.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I mean, they get no credit for what they've been doing,
and they've done a tremendous job to make us more
safe and secure. I'm not saying they're perfect. I'm just saying,
you know, give them credit where credits due. You know,
every life really does matter, and I think maybe maybe
people will.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Think differently about it after this. I hope so, me too,
Me too.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
All right, my friend, God bless you. Let's stay with
another mic, this one in Ohio. Mike, how are you
glad you called?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Sang Sean? Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Thank you for calling. What's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
I love it. So I just want to say this,
and I haven't heard it said, and I almost feel
bad saying it. But I think missus gut three died
somehow shortly after I mean, within a day or two.
She's no longer with us, is my gut feeling. I
hate to even say that, and I feel like it
was just an amateurish thing that happened. Somebody screwed up
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she passed out, maybe had a stroke, whatever. She's an
older gale and I don't think there Ever, it's going
to be a long time before they find out whatever
happened to to her. That's just how I am.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm just not willing to go where you're going here.
You know, the family believes she's alive. I'm looking at
the how premeditated in these videos and pictures we now have.
This all seems to be how sophisticated the bitcoin ploy was.
And I'm going with she's alive. I want unless I
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hear otherwise. I'm not willing to think about a worst
case scenario.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Well, I hope she's alive. I mean everybody does, but
it just seems weird to me. I don't know. I
just think something went wrong and that's what happened. But
tell you, what do I know?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You know, I appreciate the call, my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn is on number
if you want to be a part of the program. Joe,
South Carolina. What's up, Joe, how are you?
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you on
this Sean. I'm just talking about the Don Lemon situation.
I've got to say, I don't think that he deserves
to be really recognized as a journalist. I've spent fifty
years in broadcasting, going back to the late nineteen sixties
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and traveled through all of that. And if he had
been working for me, the first thing I would have done,
since he had already spoken to the agitatortions, was actually
edging them on to come in. He wouldn't have been
working for me that long.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, I mean, I thought Pam Bondi described it perfectly
when we interviewed her about this case and the arrests
that have taken place. Is anybody that is a participant. Remember,
he was clearly in support of this group, what they
were doing, and giving them donuts and coffee. He seemed
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like an active participant in the whole thing, and very
different than just going in there and covering it. And
the Face Act is very very clear, and he's on
tape saying I didn't care what the Face Act says.
This is your constitutional right to protest and this is
what America is all about. Unfortunately that's not accurate with
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what And it's interesting the left lafe the Face Act
because it protects women's rights to go into an abortion clinic.
And that's very clear too. So you know the idea
that anybody can say, well, I've got an iPhone and
a camera and I'm acting as a journalist, and therefore
I'm not in trouble here. I don't think it's gonna fly,
but you know, let's see.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
How it plays out. Yeah, and make his case and
they'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
I don't think he should be protected in anyway. I
go back to the days of Walter Cronkite and I
like when we were actually licensed in the public interest
and to have a journalist quote unquote come out and
really side one way or the other, that's not the
public interest.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well said. Anyway, I appreciate the call. Thank you, Joe,
South Carolina. Good analysis. Eight hundred and nine four one
shown us number if you want to be a part
of the program. All right, let's get back to our
busy telephones. In the meantime, let us say hi to
George my free state of Florida.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
What's up, George? How are you glad you called.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Here, sir?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
How you doing?
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (21:00):
I watched the Super Bowl with with my eighty one
year old mom and my wife and uh, we got
our we had a choice of our halftime and we
quickly changed the channel and put on the turning Point Sean,
and we just are It was just awesome to know
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that we have choices. Now this is this is like
another turning point moment where we had six point two
million people turn on the YouTube just live and probably
by the end of the day when everything's totaled up,
it's gonna be forty to fifty million people choosing other
alternatives of media. And that's it's going to be so
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powerful that I'm just so excited that we were able
to have that opportunity because we're over that we're able
to talk over the heads of the legacy media who's
controlled by the Democratic Party, and this is this one
showing that we we have alternatives. That is it's gonna
awaken American people who realize, hey, we don't want to
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be said a group of twerking or watch something were
mostly can't.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
But I've given a pope on these halftime shows a
long time ago. To be very honest with you, there's
not that many that I want to see and I
kind of use it as my time to get food,
so it didn't matter. But I did watch this year
because I knew many of you would want to talk
about it, and I was watching both the turning point
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event and you know, bad Bunny or we affectionately refer
to them as bugs Bunny because I grew up watching
Bugs Bunny.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
What's up, Doc? But you know, it just is what
it is. I mean it.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I just kind of accept that they just make a
decision seemingly every year to play into this woke DEI
mindset mentality. They think it's beneficial to them. I guess
I don't no, don't really care. I was hoping more
for a good game. It wasn't a good game, and
I often say that the Super Bowls is very often
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anti climatic, especially when you consider, you know, the level
of play and the games and how close they were
in the comebacks, you know, leading up to I just
thought the game was self kind of boring to be blunt, Yeah,
but they.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Also said it's a learning for us to say, not
only you know, to get some food, but also realize, hey,
what's going on here. This is the first year they
had some alternative and just continue to build. So it's
just it's another point media, another point in our political
process that as long as we can we talk over
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the heads of the mainstream media directly two people people
are looking at say hey, I'm not the only one
who has these thoughts, and it gives us the power.
So I'm actually glad that Turning Point did that. But
so it was a learning process and we can continue
to show the power of the American people. We can
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always change channels on and I'm glad we have alternatives.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
That is the reason all these years, I've never called
for people to be canceled. I'm never part of a boycott.
I've never have been. I don't call for people to
get fired.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I don't. Just the opposite.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I've actually advocated for people I disagree with to remain
on the air, and sometimes I get criticized for it
because I know ultimately they're going to want to cancel
conservative voices like yours, truly, but it's bigger than that.
I mean, the beauty is in this day and age,
you have more choices, more options, and nobody's forcing you
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to watch or listen to anything. The only way I
can get people to listen to those radio shows to
do a good show every day and make it that
you don't want to miss it. And the same with television,
and I mean I have to do a good show
every night. I feel that pressure to be competitive and
put on the best show I can. I've got a
great show tonight. I think you're gonna like it. Oh,
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just is one way I handle it. Appreciate the call,
my friend. All right, we'll have more on these developments
from all throughout the day today coming up in mere moments,
and more of your calls coming up also. Eight hundred
nine point one, Shawn is a number if you want
to be a part of the program. Get back for
busy phones. Eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn, if
you want to be a part of the program. Doug
and Marilyn, Doug, how are you glad you called her?
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Sean, I got a question for you. How many times
have you and Mark Levin told us don't take anything
at face value with the Democratic Party? A bunch right?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
A million? Right, Mike.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
What I'm looking at for this Savannah's mother. If you
look at the timeline the friday before she went missing,
that Clintons came out and said they're going to talk
to Congress. Two days later she shows up missing. Now
you know, everything's not adding up. But if you look
at Savannah's husband, Michael Feldman, who was any administration for
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the Clintons and was called the scrubber for all that
bleach bit stuff, don't you find that a little odd?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Don't I don't see any grand conspiracy here. I'm what
I see and what I suspect is this is a
kidnapping ransom, you know, one oh One's what's frustrating to
me is the level of sophistication that whoever's involved in
this is shown up to. Now, whether that stays that way,
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I don't know. Usually these people think they're clever. They're
not so clever. They'll make a mistake and that's when
law enforcement will pounce, especially with their new advanced technologies
that they can use their ability to, you know, go
into our house and recover you know, even erased encrypted messages.
I mean, that's something most people don't know a whole
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lot about. So I'm just hopeful that they're My hope
is that there is good news at the end of
this story, and we may know by tonight by the
time we get on TV. That's actually my hope. But
I don't see any nefarious connections on this there may
be in the end, and if it is, you know,
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I'll tip my hat to you and say you are right.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I see a lot of connections, for example, with the
chaos that is organized and well funded as it relates
to this anti Ice mentality and attitude out there. But
that's separate a part anyway, my friend, I do appreciate
you being with us eight hundred and nine foot one Sean,
if you want to be a part of the program,
all right, when we come back, we're going to check
in with Mike van Apps, he sits on the Homeland
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Security Committee, joining us. Well we come back, we'll continue
with Congressman Matt van Apps of Tennessee. He's on the
Homeland Security Committee, following the hearing this morning to discuss
the testimony of the US Customs and Border Control Commissioner
and so on and so forth. And we're also obvious
following the new developments in the case of Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy,
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and the new developments video pictures that we now have
of the perpetrator. And hopefully this is the break that
everybody's been looking for, and we'll get to your calls.
Eight hundred and nine point one shat
One hour two Sean Hennity Show, eight hundred and nine
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foot one Shawn, if you want to be a part
of the program, if you're just joining us. The FBI
released surveillance photos videos of a potential suspect and the
investigation into the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of
the co anchor of The Today Show, Savannah Guthrie. Four
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images depicting a person wearing gloves, mask, backpack appearing to
tamper with the camera and cover up the recording that
obviously they figured was going on. The FBI director Cash
Pattel said the potential suspect is armed. The FBI said
yesterday it had not identified any suspects or persons of interest,
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same with local law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Now. She's been missing since.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
She was dropped off outside of her home at her
home outside of Tucson on the night of January thirty.
First reported missing on February first. Today it is February tenth.
We're in day ten now. The FBI has launched a
web page with details about the disappearance. By the way,
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if you're in Tucson and listening to this program, though
the Sheriff's Department is asking Tucson residents to keep the
nine to one to one line open in case people
have real emergencies. The FBI director Cash Bettel visited the
Tucson command center in this case yesterday. The Guthrie family
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does not recognize the person in the surveillance images. They
are asking the public for help if anybody can maybe
have suspects that they might know who this person is.
The President has weighed in on this. He saw the
images the videos. His reaction was pure disgusted, according to
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Caroline Levitt, and also that the President again pledging his
support for the family and offering all federal assistants. And
you know, this is really the first break in the case.
Savannah Guthrie posts the video said someone out there recognizes
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this person. And again, everybody, if you have any information,
you know, call it in. What the videos show of
the potential suspect images, you know, person wearing gloves, mask,
khaki sneakers, backpack, appearing to tamper with the camera at
the front door of the morning on the morning of
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the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. The person's eyes are visible
through the holes in the mask. The images and videos
don't show a vehicle nearby, though it may be elsewhere
on the street, and you know that's where we are
at this particular time. But it's certainly the biggest break
we've had in ten days. He had to break it
all down and unpack all of this. Jason Pack retired
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FBI Supervisory special Agent and hostage nego negotiator. Nicole Parker's
with Us, author of the bestseller of the two FBI
is also a Box News contributor. Nicole's start with you,
what do you glean from all of this today? I
think the first breakthrough we've had. I think this may
be what ultimately cracks the case, and I'm certainly hopeful
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that it does.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I agree with you, Sean, this is monumental for this investigation,
and this is what the gut three family has been
waiting for.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Up until today, it seemed like things were kind of
stalling out with the ransom deadlines. Yesterday, nothing really seemed
to be happening. But rest assured that behind the scenes,
there's a lot more going on than we're aware of,
and the FBI is going full force. And this video
and these images, there will be someone who will watch
this and say, look, I recognize that person I have
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to turn them in, and you do have to turn
them in, and the tip line is eight hundred cll FBI.
So right now the FBI is gathering obviously all of
the tips coming in. But one thing that I think
is very interesting is that there are people that the
FBI had been looking at, I believe as potential persons
of interests although they have not named a suspect. They
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have not named, you know, a person of interest. Obviously,
right now I'm watching lives coverage, there are agents and
investigators that are at Annie Guthrie's neighbor's home. Okay, I
don't know that that's a coincidence, But what this does
is now, whoever did this and their image is now
has been seen by millions of people, and it will
be seen by millions more. They're on notice the gig
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is up?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
They do do you think celebrate? Is what? Actually?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
This technology that we've been discussing, you know, since this happened,
do you think that played a part in them able
to being able to retrieve this video?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So the private sector company, I'm not sure which one
it was that they worked with the FBI, because originally
they said, you know, we're not. The FBI didn't think
that they were going to be able to get these images.
But that's not going to work in this investigation. They're
going to keep digging in deep. Celebrate is actually used
to image cellular telephones, tablets, computers, things of that sort.
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So I think the actual image from this it may
have been used because again it can be used to
image doorbell cameras and things of that sort. But it
really was the private corporation that worked with the FBI
because originally they didn't think that they'd be able to
obtain this. They didn't accept no as an answer, and
they continue to get it because remember they said that
she didn't have a paid subscription. Well, depending on the
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type of camera that she had, potentially I'm not sure
in this instance, but you can get potentially three hours
of feed without a subscription. Let's say if it was
a Nest Aware Plus camera, but we don't know the
exact detail of what it was, but let me tell
you they celebrate. That's extremely crucial right now because remember
they've imaged the devices, likely of the surrounding family members,
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those in her immediate contact. They're going to be going
in and looking at communications and I just look at
these images. Sean. I don't know about you, but those eyes,
those are very telling. The eyebrows.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I totally agree with you. So you know. I have
my own theories.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I'm going to keep them to myself for now, but
I've got I would not be surprised if we have
an arrest tonight or within the next twenty four hours.
I would not be surprised at all. And hopefully the
recovery of Nancy Guthrie, I'm hoping and I'm not going
to give up on that hope. Let me ask you,
as a retired supervisory special agent and hostage negotiator, Jason,
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you know there was one FBI special agent's Lance Lessing
I think is his name, based in Arizona. You know
said in legitimate ransom case hidnappers usually move fast. They
established leverage quickly, Communication begins within hours, not days of abduction,
proof of life is produced early, and often the opposite
happened here. As a professional hostage and a gootiator, you know,
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how Will, what is the best way to handle this.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Well, Sean, I think the family handled it exactly correctly.
You have to treat it like it's real, even though
it doesn't fit any statistical patterns that may pop up.
So the family did exactly the right thing. They worked
with the FBI's crisis Negotiation Unit and the negotiators there
from the Tucson ra to craft these messages to see
if anybody would come back. And so when that didn't happen,
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as Nicole mentioned earlier, I've been on the work. I've
been in these command posts where I've been the one
working on these alternative theories and working on the not
the shiny object that everybody else is pursuing, but these
other alternative theories. And you've seen the results of that today.
So just think if they would have waited to start
doing that now, they haven't been. They've been working on
it hard. And it sounds like that this has gone
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all the way to the FBI's computer scientists, and they
it sounds like, I don't know if they're on the
same workbench and they're at Google and the Nest company
and trying to work with them to make sure to
get the state out. But whatever they did, they found
the proverbial needle in the haystack. It's actually remarkable work
by the agents.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I don't know, Nicole, have you been able to see
what people have been doing online. And I can't affirm
at one hundred percent, but they do reverse lighting and
you get a much clearer image.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Is that real?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I believe that they'll be able to refine these images
even more and I think that there's actually going to
be even more evidence coming out. Remember that they took
that camera off of the roof a few days after
the fact, and so I do think that they'll be
able to get it even more refined. But talking about
the ransom emails, and I agree, I think that these
ransoms are usually the more and more as times passing,
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I'm beginning to think it as a false flag. I'm
beginning to think that the offender actually used that to
distract law enforcement resources because the ransoms are usually very succinct.
They're usually straightforward, and the directions are minimal, and those
are the typical three key elements of a ransom, and
we didn't see that in this. We saw the two
tier deadline in between a Thursday and a Monday, and
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usually the ransom. You know, sometimes agrievance can be surmised
from the ransom, not always, but the ransom states what
the offender wants, how they want it and the timeframe
which they have to act and they want it to
move quickly. In this instance, they didn't want it to
move quickly. It's as if the offender wanted more time
to do what they needed to do. And if this
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was a false flag meaning that the offender was involved
in the ransom email is starting to make sense now,
or if it was just a full on hoax. But
what we do know is that, based on our understanding,
there was no ransom paid, and so it leads to.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Best do we know that for sure?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
We know it wasn't paid to the original letters wallet
their crypto wallet.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Again, we don't know for certain because again TMZ received
the first ransom email, they didn't receive the second. They
had the wallet address for the first email. Potentially the
second one may have had different instructions, but let's say
that it was the first. Hypothetically speaking, those are public.
The blockchain is public, like those transactions. That ledger is
public to the person that knows the wallet address.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And so to are not if they do transfer it
within minutes, they could be transferring it and buying other
crypto and selling it, and you know, they could be
doing a million different things that would not be traceable
at that point, am I right?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, no, it would always have to hit the ledger though,
that initial transaction to get to the six million dollars
that they required in bitcoin, that would that would show
up on the ledger.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Let me let me go back to this issue of
hostage negotiation. I mean, give us examples of what usually
happens in a hostage negotiation. Now, there are some people
that called me and said, under no circumstances do they
think anybody should ever pay? And I just flat out disagree.
I think that's got to be an individualized decision. And
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you know, I mean, how would you live with yourself
if you can afford to pay, or or raised the
money to pay, and it ends up because you didn't say,
they end up killing somebody. I don't know if I
could live with myself, Jason, right, Sean.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, you're right, Sean, It's absolutely correct. And these are
transactional things people plan. People who do kidnappings for ransom
want the money. They want to make it easy to communicate.
They certainly do not go on national television or local
TV stations with our ransom demand. They want to stay
in control of that. They want to have a private
line to the family so they can go back and
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forth and give that proof of life and get the
ball rolling. As far as making, you know, making that transaction,
we didn't see that here. I do want to point out, Sean,
I was on the stage at the Boston Marathon bombing
press conference. I flipped one of those posters over revealing
black hat and white hat, and that next twenty four
to forty eight hours after that photograph was out, there
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was super chaotic, and it's this is going to be
the best chance that law enforcement has, that the FBI has,
now that that subject's photos out there, to capture him.
He's these likely, like Jole said, has seen himself on
the news worldwide, on every phone, on every billboard, and
now what does he do. He's got some decisions to make.
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If he knows where Miss Nancy is, does he move her,
does he flee? What does he do? This puts a
tremendous amount of pressure, and that's what law enforcement is
counting on to make a mistake, to find this person.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, that's what everybody's hope is. Nicole, What do you
want to add?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
You know, I kind of in law enforcement we talk
a lot about tickling the wire, and that's what you
kind of this is almost a form of tickling the wire,
like we want the suspect to know, hey, we're on you,
and we want to see how certain people respond. So again,
law enforcements can be looking closely at the people and
the guthries direct because I think everyone at this point
we're not certain, but a lot of people agree that
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it's probably someone that knew Nancy, that was either close
to her and her circle of close friends or contacts
or even family members. So right now law enforcement is
going to be seeing how certain people react the other thing.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That they or maybe people that worked on the prey at.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Some point, exactly a home care nurse, a pool cleaner,
any of those things that were you know, home care workers.
But again, John, it may not be the individual who
potentially had a grievance. It could be that they paid
someone to do it. I've worked murdered for higher cases.
The actual person who orchestrates it may never have entered
the crime scene. It could be the person with the issue,
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the offender could be on the scene, or it could
be the offender with the grievance behind the scenes, conspiring
and sending someone else in to do the dirty work,
and so there's many layers of complex you know, complexity
complexities here. But it's important to note that taking these
images and the tips, and now they're going to comb
it together and they're going to piece it with the
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technological artifacts and the evidence. They're going to look to
see what cell phones were trying to connect to that router,
that Wi Fi router. Were there any you know, people
that were trying to connect their phone, you know, like
when you go into a phone and says, would you
like to connect to the Wi Fi? Was that happening
between the hours that this individual within the home? How
were they And these are types of things that law
enforcement isn't giving to the public, but I guarantee you
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that's what's happening, and that the pacemaker, the pacemaker is huge.
That pacemaker a sess but cannot take that outside of
you know, it would take a lot of work for
them to you know, disconnect the pacemaker inside of her body,
whether the app was continuing to function or not. That
pacemaker continues to work, and there's an app and there's
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a cloud, and there's a company that has all of
that data, and I guarantee you the FBI is going
through that very very closely.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Would it give them the location?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I think, I'm not I can't speak certain of that,
but I believe if someone is alive, that pacemaker is
going to continue to work, and if someone is not,
that pacemaker is likely not going to continue to work.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Okay, And we appreciate both of you. Jason Pack, thank you.
Nicole Parker. We'll see you on TV tonight. We appreciate
you both. All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Let's say hi to Michael. He's in Saint Louis. Michael, Hi,
how are you glad you called?
Speaker 5 (15:01):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I just wanted to say, Number one, thank you for
all that you do.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Love listen, thank you for letting me do it. I
love doing what I do, and I'm blessed to do
what I do.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Well, anyway, I just wanted to say quickly because I
know I'm on the radio. Despite any political you know,
Savannah and this or that, I think we're blessed to
live in a country that this rarely happens. And I
think that even if she wasn't related to Savannah, that
this would be a big deal. And it's got me
feeling like Denzel Washington and Man on Fire.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
You know, I'm I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Denzel Washington is one of my favorite actors. I think
he's great. I think he's amazing. He's so good, so
he's so diverse in the roles that he can play.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
He's really good in his.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Personal life too, which I appreciate absolutely.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
No, I agree.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Look, you know, but for whatever reason, and I guess
Linda could weigh more than me on this because she
reads a lot more social media than I do. But
I got word from Blair, who does our social media,
that I was getting hammered because one night I said,
I don't want this to be interpreted as being political,
but if you want to know, when I say, every
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life matters, That's why this story matters. That's why we
talk about how many people are shot and shot and
killed in Chicago every weekend. And it's it's mind numbing
to me that if you can't politicize it and weaponize
it or use it against Donald Trump, you don't know
the names of the people shot and shot and killed
every weekend, and nobody lifts a finger to help these people.
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That's why when ICE is risking their lives, to rescue
people and to arrest you know child, you know, molesters
and murderers and rapists, other violent criminals and terrorists.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I'm like, wow.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I mean, they get no credit for what they've been doing,
and they've done a tremendous job to make us more
safe and secure. I'm not saying they're perfect. I'm just saying,
you know, give them credit where credits due. You know,
every life really does matter, and I think maybe maybe
people will.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Think differently about it after this. I hope so, me too,
Me too.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
All right, my friend, God bless you. Let's stay with
another mic, this one in Ohio. Mike, how are you
glad you called?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Sang Sean? Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Thank you for calling. What's on your mind?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
I love it. So I just want to say this,
and I haven't heard it said, and I almost feel
bad saying it. But I think missus gut three died
somehow shortly after I mean, within a day or two.
She's no longer with us, is my gut feeling. I
hate to even say that, and I feel like it
was just an amateurish thing that happened. Somebody screwed up
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she passed out, maybe had a stroke, whatever. She's an
older gale and I don't think there Ever, it's going
to be a long time before they find out whatever
happened to to her. That's just how I am.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm just not willing to go where you're going here.
You know, the family believes she's alive. I'm looking at
the how premeditated in these videos and pictures we now have.
This all seems to be how sophisticated the bitcoin ploy was.
And I'm going with she's alive. I want unless I
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hear otherwise. I'm not willing to think about a worst
case scenario.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Well, I hope she's alive. I mean everybody does, but
it just seems weird to me. I don't know. I
just think something went wrong and that's what happened. But
tell you, what do I know?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You know, I appreciate the call, my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn is on number
if you want to be a part of the program. Joe,
South Carolina. What's up, Joe, how are you?
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you on
this Sean. I'm just talking about the Don Lemon situation.
I've got to say, I don't think that he deserves
to be really recognized as a journalist. I've spent fifty
years in broadcasting, going back to the late nineteen sixties
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and traveled through all of that. And if he had
been working for me, the first thing I would have done,
since he had already spoken to the agitatortions, was actually
edging them on to come in. He wouldn't have been
working for me that long.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, I mean, I thought Pam Bondi described it perfectly
when we interviewed her about this case and the arrests
that have taken place. Is anybody that is a participant. Remember,
he was clearly in support of this group, what they
were doing, and giving them donuts and coffee. He seemed
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like an active participant in the whole thing, and very
different than just going in there and covering it. And
the Face Act is very very clear, and he's on
tape saying I didn't care what the Face Act says.
This is your constitutional right to protest and this is
what America is all about. Unfortunately that's not accurate with
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what And it's interesting the left lafe the Face Act
because it protects women's rights to go into an abortion clinic.
And that's very clear too. So you know the idea
that anybody can say, well, I've got an iPhone and
a camera and I'm acting as a journalist, and therefore
I'm not in trouble here. I don't think it's gonna fly,
but you know, let's see.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
How it plays out. Yeah, and make his case and
they'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:23):
I don't think he should be protected in anyway. I
go back to the days of Walter Cronkite and I
like when we were actually licensed in the public interest
and to have a journalist quote unquote come out and
really side one way or the other, that's not the
public interest.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well said. Anyway, I appreciate the call. Thank you, Joe,
South Carolina. Good analysis. Eight hundred and nine four one
shown us number if you want to be a part
of the program. All right, let's get back to our
busy telephones. In the meantime, let us say hi to
George my free state of Florida.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
What's up, George? How are you glad you called.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Here, sir?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
How you doing?
Speaker 8 (21:00):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (21:00):
I watched the Super Bowl with with my eighty one
year old mom and my wife and uh, we got
our we had a choice of our halftime and we
quickly changed the channel and put on the turning Point Sean,
and we just are It was just awesome to know
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that we have choices. Now this is this is like
another turning point moment where we had six point two
million people turn on the YouTube just live and probably
by the end of the day when everything's totaled up,
it's gonna be forty to fifty million people choosing other
alternatives of media. And that's it's going to be so
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powerful that I'm just so excited that we were able
to have that opportunity because we're over that we're able
to talk over the heads of the legacy media who's
controlled by the Democratic Party, and this is this one
showing that we we have alternatives. That is it's gonna
awaken American people who realize, hey, we don't want to
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be said a group of twerking or watch something were
mostly can't.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
But I've given a pope on these halftime shows a
long time ago. To be very honest with you, there's
not that many that I want to see and I
kind of use it as my time to get food,
so it didn't matter. But I did watch this year
because I knew many of you would want to talk
about it, and I was watching both the turning point
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event and you know, bad Bunny or we affectionately refer
to them as bugs Bunny because I grew up watching
Bugs Bunny.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
What's up, Doc? But you know, it just is what
it is. I mean it.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I just kind of accept that they just make a
decision seemingly every year to play into this woke DEI
mindset mentality. They think it's beneficial to them. I guess
I don't no, don't really care. I was hoping more
for a good game. It wasn't a good game, and
I often say that the Super Bowls is very often
(23:08):
anti climatic, especially when you consider, you know, the level
of play and the games and how close they were
in the comebacks, you know, leading up to I just
thought the game was self kind of boring to be blunt, Yeah,
but they.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Also said it's a learning for us to say, not
only you know, to get some food, but also realize, hey,
what's going on here. This is the first year they
had some alternative and just continue to build. So it's
just it's another point media, another point in our political
process that as long as we can we talk over
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the heads of the mainstream media directly two people people
are looking at say hey, I'm not the only one
who has these thoughts, and it gives us the power.
So I'm actually glad that Turning Point did that. But
so it was a learning process and we can continue
to show the power of the American people. We can
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always change channels on and I'm glad we have alternatives.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
That is the reason all these years, I've never called
for people to be canceled. I'm never part of a boycott.
I've never have been. I don't call for people to
get fired.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I don't. Just the opposite.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I've actually advocated for people I disagree with to remain
on the air, and sometimes I get criticized for it
because I know ultimately they're going to want to cancel
conservative voices like yours, truly, but it's bigger than that.
I mean, the beauty is in this day and age,
you have more choices, more options, and nobody's forcing you
(24:48):
to watch or listen to anything. The only way I
can get people to listen to those radio shows to
do a good show every day and make it that
you don't want to miss it. And the same with television,
and I mean I have to do a good show
every night. I feel that pressure to be competitive and
put on the best show I can. I've got a
great show tonight. I think you're gonna like it. Oh,
(25:10):
just is one way I handle it. Appreciate the call,
my friend. All right, we'll have more on these developments
from all throughout the day today coming up in mere moments,
and more of your calls coming up also. Eight hundred
nine point one, Shawn is a number if you want
to be a part of the program. Get back for
busy phones. Eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn, if
you want to be a part of the program. Doug
and Marilyn, Doug, how are you glad you called her?
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Sean, I got a question for you. How many times
have you and Mark Levin told us don't take anything
at face value with the Democratic Party? A bunch right?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
A million? Right, Mike.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
What I'm looking at for this Savannah's mother. If you
look at the timeline the friday before she went missing,
that Clintons came out and said they're going to talk
to Congress. Two days later she shows up missing. Now
you know, everything's not adding up. But if you look
at Savannah's husband, Michael Feldman, who was any administration for
(26:07):
the Clintons and was called the scrubber for all that
bleach bit stuff, don't you find that a little odd?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Don't I don't see any grand conspiracy here. I'm what
I see and what I suspect is this is a
kidnapping ransom, you know, one oh One's what's frustrating to
me is the level of sophistication that whoever's involved in
this is shown up to. Now, whether that stays that way,
(26:36):
I don't know. Usually these people think they're clever. They're
not so clever. They'll make a mistake and that's when
law enforcement will pounce, especially with their new advanced technologies
that they can use their ability to, you know, go
into our house and recover you know, even erased encrypted messages.
I mean, that's something most people don't know a whole
(26:56):
lot about. So I'm just hopeful that they're My hope
is that there is good news at the end of
this story, and we may know by tonight by the
time we get on TV. That's actually my hope. But
I don't see any nefarious connections on this there may
be in the end, and if it is, you know,
(27:17):
I'll tip my hat to you and say you are right.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I see a lot of connections, for example, with the
chaos that is organized and well funded as it relates
to this anti Ice mentality and attitude out there. But
that's separate a part anyway, my friend, I do appreciate
you being with us eight hundred and nine foot one Sean,
if you want to be a part of the program,
all right, when we come back, we're going to check
in with Mike van Apps, he sits on the Homeland
(27:41):
Security Committee, joining us. Well we come back, we'll continue
with Congressman Matt van Apps of Tennessee. He's on the
Homeland Security Committee, following the hearing this morning to discuss
the testimony of the US Customs and Border Control Commissioner
and so on and so forth. And we're also obvious
following the new developments in the case of Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy,
(28:05):
and the new developments video pictures that we now have
of the perpetrator. And hopefully this is the break that
everybody's been looking for, and we'll get to your calls.
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