May 12, 2026 • 34 mins
Rose Tennent is joined by Newt Gingrich for a conversation on President Trump’s China trip, the role of major U.S. business leaders, Taiwan, Iran, artificial intelligence, and the path to Republican victory in the midterms. Gingrich argues that Republicans need to communicate their achievements clearly while drawing sharper contrasts with Democrats on culture, policy, and faith. The hour also features J.P. DeGance of Communio, who discusses how strong marriages, family life, church engagement, and conversations with children about faith are central to rebuilding American culture. Rose frames the discussion around America’s 250th anniversary and the importance of faith and family in preserving the nation’s future.
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Speaker 3 (01:23):
Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose.
Joining me now is former Speaker of the House and
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Welcome to the shows, Speaker, How are you much doing well?
Thank you? I was hoping we could start with President
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Trump's visit to China and the number of business leaders
that are traveling with him. We have Tesla CEO Elon Musk,
we have Apple CEO Tim Cook, You've got Boeing CEO.
That's just a name a few. How closely does this
reflect how investment strategy is tied to policy direction between Washington.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It's there are a couple of different things going on.
I mean, I think we're interested in more investments from
China and more investments in China, and frankly, for a
lot of our biggest companies, China is just a huge market.
And so I think you have people who are interested
in protecting themselves in that market and then showing their
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support for a US China agreement on trade. And I
think that's probably a positive. I mean, it's an important visit,
and I know that on both sides they have been
from weeks preparing and planning and trying to get it right.
So this is not a small thing.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
No, it's not. And you've been known to be a
great strategist. I mean, what do you anticipate being the
primary purpose of the visit and what outcomes do you
think are necessary? Or even possible moving forward. And also
will Taiwan be a major discussion point? Yeah, I think
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we might have lost the speaker, So all right, so
we will hopefully maybe we'll get him back. If not,
we'll just continue without him until he does come back.
But I do think it's interesting, you know. It's when
we talk about all of the CEOs that are joining them,
the other business leaders from this country, and I know
that it's important to them, but I just I want
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to find out about the fine line there though, too,
because we talk about trying to limit what we've sent
out to China and what we are establishing here in
our own country. For example, let's talk about prescriptions and
drugs and medications and how we really should start manufacturing
those things right here in this country. So how do
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we kind of balance all of that? That was one
of the things I wanted to ask him, And I
do hope that I have a chance. Okay, great, he
is back with us. Okay, So I don't I think
that you heard my question. I asked about Taiwan being
a major discussion point and what you really anticipate as
a primary purpose of the visit and the outcome.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Well, I think both Taiwan and Iram will be major
discussion points. But as I started to say earlier, I
think historically the biggest breakthrough may be on how do
we manage artificial intelligence, because we are beginning to have
systems that are frankly scary, that have such an enormous
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ability to learn that we have to really take seriously
how we are going to deal with it, and that
can only be done if the US and China work together.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Do you anticipate them agreeing to work together on that
or do they really care how we feel about all
of that?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
No, No, I think I think this is such a
big threat to all of us that I think, you know,
your Kissinger said before before he passed away that he
thought artificial intelligence might be the greatest single event in
human history and how much it changes everything. And there's
some evidence now some breakthroughs that are that are really
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so uncertain about how the system could learn on its
own and do things on its own. But I think
there's a very real sense that only the unitized states
in China could could develop a system for monitoring and
trying to make sure that we don't end up with
some kind of system which is a direct threat to
human beings.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And I'm certain you're right. I'm sure they share that
concern as well. One of the things too. And then
we're going to move on to your run. I think,
but this trip may or may not determine whether America
and China cooperate, because I mean, it could reveal whether
the next decade will be defined by more more by
competition or confrontation. Would you agree, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I think I think that's right. And I think I
think both Jiji and Brown and President Trump are trying
to walk a tightrope. There's a lot of pressures that
move them towards constant conflict, and there are other pressures
that move them towards trying to find a way to
live together. And I think they're trying to balance that.
And you know, but in the process, frankly, the Chinese
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for a long time took so much advantage of us.
They're just getting back to a balanced system causes the
Chinese a lot of problems.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Interesting, now you mentioned Iran, and I did want to
play a sound bite for you real quick. We won't
go into it too long, but it is remarks that
were made by President Trump just today. Take a listen
at what point are you done negotiating with a rod Well,
we're going to see what happens.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
We're only making a good deal.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
We have.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Their military is.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
Gone, it's wiped out, and we're.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Only going to make a good deal.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
And we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
But I believe that one way or the other, it's.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Going to be very good for the American people, and
I think actually very good for the Iranian people.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
To take it from there, speaker, my curiosity is, at
what are we done negotiating with Iran? I mean, because
it does seem you do, you seem to move the
line a little bit, and it does seem to drag
out quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Well, I mean, I don't I think the President is
sort of being overly optimistic, certainly in terms of closing
off the Strait of Homs. The Iranians are not yet
defeated in terms of their using various missiles against some
of our allies. They're not yet defeated, and they certainly
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don't think they're defeated.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
People now in charge of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, their
leader who fought for eight years with the Iraqis, and
they took about a million casualties, including three hundred thousand dead.
So there, these are very tough people, and I think
that there was a belief that if we hit them
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hard enough that somehow we would do Okay, and we
hit them pretty darn hard, and they're still there and
they're very defiant. If you look at the most recent proposals,
they were all it's almost like they were taunting President
Trump with ideas like we should pay them reparations for
the war damages and so forth. So I think this
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is sooner or later he's going to have to find
a way to open the straight up amos because if
that's opened, the price of gasoline will drop. And if
the price of gasoline drops, the Republicans will win a
huge victory this fall. But if they don't solve the
price of gasoline, the Democrats are going to win. It's
not complicated.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, you know, In fact, I was That was exactly
where I was going to go next, because I know
that you have a path. I've seen it on social media.
You've posted that you believe there is a path to
Republicans victory, but that it has three components. So, okay,
you just mentioned the first, because that would be my concern.
Anything that prolongs what's happening between the US and Iran
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is going to have an effect on the midterm election.
So let's talk about what else will have an effect
and what we need to do to find that victory
at the midterm.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Well, look, I actually developed sort of four box model
in which the first box is the things we have
done right and the things we will do next two
years if we keep all of power. And you know,
they had a press conference yesterday and they had all
sorts of people there. We're talking about mom dot org,
which is a site the government's put up the shows
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how many different ways you can save money and is
really moving towards affordability and healthcare. We have a good
story in terms of you know, no tacks on tips,
a whole range of other tax breaks that will passed
last year. So there are things we could report to
the country that are pretty good in the presidents made
really good progress and lowering the price of prescription drugs
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and so forth. I think the second box is we
run a project called the practice New Majority Project and
which people can see it by going to America's New
Majority Project dot com. And we do lots of polling
and the Democrats in the sensor at war with the
American people. I mean, one issue after issue there down
at about fifteen percent twelve thirteen percent, with everybody else
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agains of the most recent example is the man who
won three contests against women in California this week, and
the anger among women about the idea that these guys
are now pretending to be women for the purpose of
winning when they shouldn't be. I mean, it's a re
markable moment. And then third, frankly, you've got to recognize
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that Schumer and Jeffrey's the two Democratic leaders would represent
sort of do dangerous things to destructive things Congress that
there I got a majority. And the first the first
thing they would try to do is in peach President
Trump and lock Washington up. They already locked Washington up
on things like the Department of Homeland Security, so imagine
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they were in charge. We would get nothing done for
two years.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You know. One of the things that you said, and
I'm going to go back to it real quick, is
communicate clearly the number of positive achievements in the first
two years. Well, here's the thing, Speaker, the very first
time that he served this country, we could go to
numerous sites and find the list of accomplishments, all the
great things for myself and others who are in the media.
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It was great. It was a great resource for us.
But right now I don't see that kind of messaging
and so basically the bottom line is messaging here and
I'm not seeing it to the degree that we did
during his first term.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Well, I think that's right, And just you know, between
now and Labor Day, they've got to get all that
up and out in the open into the country when
they have a great story to tell. But if you
don't tell it, nobody knows that's true.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You know, There's one thing I did want to bring
up because you wrote a book. The thing is, you
wrote this particular book back in nineteen ninety six and
I was just beginning my own journey in radio, and
I've always had an interest in American history. But your
book was to renew America. And I just have to
ask you, when you think about what you wrote then,
and as we approach America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
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what do you see as the most significant cultural or
even political shifts that would have surprised you back in
nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Well, I mean in nineteen ninety six I could work
with Bill Clinton because there were still moderate Democrats who
were in touch with reality, and we could reform welfare.
We passed the only four balanced budgets in the last
hundred years. But we could work together. The Democratic Party
has gone crazy. When the President said in the State
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of the Union, when Democrats were Tea used to stand
and applaud for protecting children, and the President said, you
people are crazy, He's right, They're not liberal. They're not
so it's still crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Oh, he's absolutely.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It's a not almost change from when I was speaker.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, it really is, and the craziness becomes more and
more obvious. But I do think that we have to
include that in our messaging as we go forward. And
there is one other thing I want to ask you too,
because we've seen moments of spiritual renewal in parts of
the country over the past few decades, and especially in
the last i'd even say five years. There's revivals, church
growth in some areas, and there's a renewed interest among
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the younger generation. We've just heard about that recently in
the news. So do you see this as an ongoing
thing that we're going to continue to see renewal, because
it really does tie into what you talked about very
much in your book.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I think there are younger people who look at their
older brothers and sisters, or look at their parents' generation,
and they think, you know, their lives are hollowed it.
You have to have something at the center of your
life to make it worth living. And I think that's
why you've had, for example, so many suicides among the people.
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And I think that the return to faith, seeking to
have God fill up that vacuum. I think that's very real,
and it's a great American tradition. We've had several waves
of revivals going all the way back to the seventeen
thirties and forties, and again in the eighteen thirties and
forties and in the nineteen twenties, and so every once
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in a while, suddenly the American people look up and go,
you know, a life without God is a very lonely life.
And suddenly you get a wave of recommitment that's very
healthy for the country.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, I agree, one hundred percent. Former Speaker of the House,
you can great joining us today on the Sean Hannity show.
Thank you so much, speaker for spending time with me today.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Glad to do a roast. Care have a good one,
take care.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah you too, Thank you. We'll be back with more
of the Sean Hannity Show after this. Love talking to
new Gingrich. She's awesome. He's always got the perfect thing
to say because I know he thinks very strongly about
certain issues and he's very thoughtful in his responses. We'll
be right back after this.
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Sean Hannity. It's just awesome that we even have a
director of the White House in the area of faith, right,
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I mean, when's the last time something like that happened,
and then right now it is just more important than ever.
And when you think about some of the things that
New Kingridge talked about about faith, when you look back
at his nineteen ninety six book when he talked about
renewing America, all of this is so important and we're
all a part of it. Just pray about what part
you play in that renewal. So we'll be back with
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Speaker 3 (18:24):
My first guest, though, I want to talk to him
because it's so important. We've been talking about America and
as we're approaching its two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, we're
taking a closer look at the faith, family and biblical
values that help shape this nation from the very beginning.
So to help me talk about that right now is
JP Deganz. He's the founder of Communo and he's the
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co author of the book Endgame, the Church's strategic move
to save faith and family in America. Jp is a
ministry leader helping churches strengthen marriages, families, and this is
very important the next generation of faith across America. Hi JP,
thanks for being on today.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Hey Rose, thanks so much for having me. What a
great topic.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, we owe it to our
founding fathers to keep the spirit of America alive. And
that spirit is the one that we find through our
belief in God and the idea that all men are
created equal and that freedom can only be just given
to us by God and God alone, not by men
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because they can take it away. But as we prepared
to celebrate America two fifty, why is it important to
remember that faith was foundational to the birth of this country.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Look.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Look, it's super important for us to recognize that the
ideas of liberty weren't just pulled out of some thought experiment.
They were born out of a very real people with
a very real anthropology and history. And our civilization was
built by pilgrims and settlers. It was not built by
a government, government king. From the civilization built by these
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pilgrims and settlers. And what motivated these people to come
across the sea in such a way that they were
isolated from everything, No earthly king could come to their aid.
They were motivated on a deep faith in Christ. These
were Christian pilgrims, Christian settlers that came. It was their
strong moral commitment that that gave them the self discipline
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to be able to forge civilization out of a wilderness.
And the early the early American experience Alexicatapeville and his
Democracy in America were in the eighteen thirties. He's trying
to understand when you look at republican France, right, it
was so it was so broken, it was so problematic.
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And when we looked at the health of a republic
in America, he saw such a contrast. And he really
his great work of political science was also really a
work of social science. He he recognized that America had
a unique commitment to strong marriages. There were there was
a strong morality born in those strong families. And and
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he saw religion as as the first of their of
their political institutions, not political in the sense of you
derive power from it. It was the first institution that
gave rise to self governance, right. And and so you
can't have a self governing people without the faith of
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early Americans, right.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And without a morality. Right. You know, it's interesting because
you spent years studying how faith is passed down through families,
and you did. There was recent research with Harvard University
that revealed something very surprising to some of us that
read that, could you share that with the audience right now?
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What your recent research with Harvard revealed that surprised you most?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
The reality is faith and family are a double helix.
They mutually reinforce and support each other, and when one
comes on glued, so does the other. We had a
research partnership that was trying to understand how faith moves
from one generation to the next. And what we recognize,
of course is healthy marriages are key there. But then
also certainly getting to church regularly matters. But what was
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the big factor that came up with having open conversations
with your kids about their Christian faith that that kind
of regular conversation, just having those conversations weekly. You were
an adult who said they had those weekly conversations when
they were a child, were two point five higher odds
of having those conversations with their own with their own children.
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And if you remembered having those conversations as much as
even daily with your parents when you were a child,
you had nearly eight times higher odds of having those
same conversations with your own kids. Nothing else. That was
a huge The researcher said, that's a huge finding that
even the action of going to church as a kid
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did not have the same level of replicability. So so
what we thought we have, you know, we uncovered is
is kind of a key specific thing that any parent
can do right now. Like if you're listening to this,
you're driving with your son or daughter running an errand
you can have a conversation with him right now that
has a profound long term impact on their future attack
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their future faith when they're adults.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I think that is so important because I have
an image in my mind of me standing in our kitchen.
I can see it clear as day. So often while
my mom was cooking, I would badger her. My biggest
thing was revelation, Mom, what do you think about this?
And what about that? And I'm talking even as a
younger person, But I think the thing is that we
can integrate, as you said, some aspects of our faith
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into almost every situation. Really, if we would just take
the time to do that and make ourselves aware, because
I feel like jp that we owe this to our
founding Fathers. We owe it to the Puritans. We owe
it to those pilgrims that came over here because they
believed in something so strongly. They believed in freedom of religion,
and they were willing to risk so much to establish
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that freedom as one of our freedoms here in this country.
And we owe it to them. We owe it to
them to continue making this and keeping this a faithful country.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Look, you're not going to have a self governing people
without a virtuous and moral people. And the government can't
form that. The government can't form morals in the way
that a private family can, as John Adams said. And
the reality is is you don't have to be a
biblical scholar to have these conversations. You don't have to
be a theologian to have these conversations. You might just
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ask your son or daughter you're driving, what are you
grateful to God for today? For this week. I do
that regularly with my children. We're just driving around running errands.
And then you can be creative. I love. I was
with my thirteen, ten and seven year old driving in
the car and I said, you know, if you can
go back in time to any any story or passage
in scripture and you could be there and witness it.
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What would it be? And my thirteen year old said, oh,
I'd want to see he was my fourth thirteen year
old boy wanted to be there for David and Goliath.
He wanted to see David out Goliath. And then we
talked about that for a few minutes and how cool
it was, how much how scary it must have been.
And I have my ten year old son and he said, oh,
I'd want to be there in the storm and see
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Jesus and Peter walk on the water. And we talked
about that and the faith there that must have been required.
And then I turned my now because she's six years old,
six year old daughter about to be seven, and she said,
she said, you know, I want to be there and
see Tane and Abel. We look at you.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Oh my goodness, we all start laughing.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
She goes, well, I want to go and slap Tane
and tell him, you know, why do you do that?
Why do you do that? But the point is is
you can have fun with these conversations. You don't have
to be a deep scholar. Okay, there's what you want
to do is help your kids make their make the
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faith their own by by engaging them and dialogue in it.
It's important to form them, to teach them the truths
of the faith and the scriptures that that's also super important.
But having these open conversations, you know, asking them what
do they want to pray for today? Right, and then
offer a short prayer while you're driving around, while you're
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running an errand those are good, good, simple habits to
do each day and it'll have a profound impacts what
the research suggests.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
So I love that you start with family because really
it starts there and it's about you know, saving faith
and family in America, and that's important. Those are two
things that are really inseparable. But what rule should churches
play in helping rebuild a culture? And in that culture
we're talking marriage, commitment, biblical discipleship, those kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Look, it's absolutely vital. Anybody who's sitting in a church
needs to know that the collapse of the family and
marriage preceded and really cause the societal wide decline in
Christian faith. Right, you start to have a d coupling
of sex from marriage in the nineteen sixties, marriage from parenting,
parenting from partnering, and as non marital households grew you had.
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About twenty five years later, the rise of religious nonaffiliation
starts to grow. I write about this in our nationwide
study on Faith and Relationships Goroes. Eighty percent of everybody
sitting in church on Sunday grew up in an intact
married family. And so if there's a man sitting in
church born in the year two thousand, and he's single,
and he's sitting in church, and he's sitting next to
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a guy who's born in nineteen sixty five and he's married, Okay,
both guys, eighty one percent of those men from both
those groups, some of them grew up in a home
where mom and dad stayed continuously married. And so if
we want to understand why there's a lot fewer men
born around the year two thousands sitting in church on
Sunday on average, it's because so many fewer of them
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grew up in an intact married home than those who
grew up in the nineteen sixties. And so our big
message to churches is that the restoration of Christian marriage
is actually an evangelical necessity. We got to bring that about.
The original small group is the family, Okay, that's God's
plan for sharing and passing the faith and marriage is
that covenental sign of salvation, right. We see it in
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Genesis at the beginning of salvation history, and it's there
again at the end in Revelation with the eschatological wedding
of the Lamb. And then you have and then you
have it dripping the nuptial meaning of scripture is dripping
throughout scripture in the Old Testament and into the New,
from the minor prophets like Hoseiah, the Psalms of Solomon,
to the major prophets like Isaiah. And you see it
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in Paul's writing when he lays out that great mystery
in a Fees five where he gives us a window
into Christ's love for his church as a bride and
as a sacrificial love of the bridegroom for his bride.
And so it shouldn't be surprising. I tell pastors and
church leaders that when the human story of love breaks down,
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when less and less people experience the human love story,
less and less people experience the love of an earthly father.
And when less and less people experience the love of
an earthly father, less and less accept the love of
the heavenly Father, and so these things are deeply interrelated.
And the goodness is God's hardwired us for this. God
has hard wired us for love and for relationships, for marriage.
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And so the world has been selling some bad goods
over the last number of decades. And so the overwhelming
science keeps showing the happiest people are married people who
have kids, and married people who have kids who go
to church are happier still. And so the church can
be a place where our folks learn to love, learned
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the love well, and then decid piple our kids well,
and then it can be a front porch. It can
be a way to draw people in with you know,
in a situation with such loneliness and isolation and growing
mental health challenges and suicidal ideation, the church has to
sell to the world. And that's the gospel.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, you know, And as we had towards this historic
two hundred and fiftieth celebration, you can see that you
have hope about the future of faith in America. And
we have about a minute here I'd love for you.
We're talking to JP Ducan Begins and he's the co
author of the book called Endgame. I think you should
all pick this up. It's very important, especially right now
as we do celebrate this specific anniversary the Church's Strategic
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Move to Save Faith and Family in America. How can
people learn more about your organization and about the book.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, go to Communia dot org and on there you
can set up for our free newsletter. You can download
you want some of the data that I share nationwide
setting faith relationships, you can download for free under the
research tab. And then you can buy the book right
from our website or from or from Amazon. End Game
the Church's Strategic Move to Save Faith and Family in America.
And it's co authored with my my friend doctor John
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van App. It's a great resource and action plan for
the church.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You know what. God bless you and thank you for
your efforts on behalf of this country and American families.
That's Communio c O M M you Nio dot com.
Thank you so much, JP, thank blessing it.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Troe's great to be with you.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
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I'm gonna take Bruce from Tennessee. He's been waiting. I'll
get to all of you, I hope this afternoon. Bruce.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
How are you, hey, Rose, I'm good, good shoe, thank you.
I'm a senior citizen, almost seventy army veteran conservative Republican patriots.
And I got to say, the best election in my
lifetime was the midterm election of nineteen ninety four. And
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that was organized and led. I demand you just had
on a little earlier Newt Gingris.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
And my statement about this is that's uh why that
it was a landslide victory for the Republicans and they
finally had everything organized, ten major issues that the American
public was interested in. And he organized Congress, all the Republicans,
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pretty much all the Republicans in Congress better than anyone
I had ever seen. Everyone was on the same page.
They were all giving the same message about these ten
issues and my promise. I haven't seen him do it
since that was the point.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Well, he hasn't had that opportunity, I would think, or
the people in agreement. You're right, the contract with America
was amazing. I do have to let you go, but Bruce,
I agree with you one hundred percent. Thank you for
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Joining me now is former Speaker of the House and
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Welcome to the shows, Speaker, How are you much doing well?
Thank you? I was hoping we could start with President
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Trump's visit to China and the number of business leaders
that are traveling with him. We have Tesla CEO Elon Musk,
we have Apple CEO Tim Cook, You've got Boeing CEO.
That's just a name a few. How closely does this
reflect how investment strategy is tied to policy direction between Washington.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
It's there are a couple of different things going on.
I mean, I think we're interested in more investments from
China and more investments in China, and frankly, for a
lot of our biggest companies, China is just a huge market.
And so I think you have people who are interested
in protecting themselves in that market and then showing their
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support for a US China agreement on trade. And I
think that's probably a positive. I mean, it's an important visit,
and I know that on both sides they have been
from weeks preparing and planning and trying to get it right.
So this is not a small thing.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
No, it's not. And you've been known to be a
great strategist. I mean, what do you anticipate being the
primary purpose of the visit and what outcomes do you
think are necessary? Or even possible moving forward. And also
will Taiwan be a major discussion point? Yeah, I think
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we might have lost the speaker, So all right, so
we will hopefully maybe we'll get him back. If not,
we'll just continue without him until he does come back.
But I do think it's interesting, you know. It's when
we talk about all of the CEOs that are joining them,
the other business leaders from this country, and I know
that it's important to them, but I just I want
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to find out about the fine line there though, too,
because we talk about trying to limit what we've sent
out to China and what we are establishing here in
our own country. For example, let's talk about prescriptions and
drugs and medications and how we really should start manufacturing
those things right here in this country. So how do
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we kind of balance all of that? That was one
of the things I wanted to ask him, And I
do hope that I have a chance. Okay, great, he
is back with us. Okay, So I don't I think
that you heard my question. I asked about Taiwan being
a major discussion point and what you really anticipate as
a primary purpose of the visit and the outcome.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Well, I think both Taiwan and Iram will be major
discussion points. But as I started to say earlier, I
think historically the biggest breakthrough may be on how do
we manage artificial intelligence, because we are beginning to have
systems that are frankly scary, that have such an enormous
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ability to learn that we have to really take seriously
how we are going to deal with it, and that
can only be done if the US and China work together.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Do you anticipate them agreeing to work together on that
or do they really care how we feel about all
of that?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
No, No, I think I think this is such a
big threat to all of us that I think, you know,
your Kissinger said before before he passed away that he
thought artificial intelligence might be the greatest single event in
human history and how much it changes everything. And there's
some evidence now some breakthroughs that are that are really
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so uncertain about how the system could learn on its
own and do things on its own. But I think
there's a very real sense that only the unitized states
in China could could develop a system for monitoring and
trying to make sure that we don't end up with
some kind of system which is a direct threat to
human beings.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And I'm certain you're right. I'm sure they share that
concern as well. One of the things too. And then
we're going to move on to your run. I think,
but this trip may or may not determine whether America
and China cooperate, because I mean, it could reveal whether
the next decade will be defined by more more by
competition or confrontation. Would you agree, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I think I think that's right. And I think I
think both Jiji and Brown and President Trump are trying
to walk a tightrope. There's a lot of pressures that
move them towards constant conflict, and there are other pressures
that move them towards trying to find a way to
live together. And I think they're trying to balance that.
And you know, but in the process, frankly, the Chinese
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for a long time took so much advantage of us.
They're just getting back to a balanced system causes the
Chinese a lot of problems.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Interesting, now you mentioned Iran, and I did want to
play a sound bite for you real quick. We won't
go into it too long, but it is remarks that
were made by President Trump just today. Take a listen
at what point are you done negotiating with a rod Well,
we're going to see what happens.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
We're only making a good deal.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
We have.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Their military is.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
Gone, it's wiped out, and we're.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Only going to make a good deal.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
And we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
But I believe that one way or the other, it's.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Going to be very good for the American people, and
I think actually very good for the Iranian people.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
To take it from there, speaker, my curiosity is, at
what are we done negotiating with Iran? I mean, because
it does seem you do, you seem to move the
line a little bit, and it does seem to drag
out quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Well, I mean, I don't I think the President is
sort of being overly optimistic, certainly in terms of closing
off the Strait of Homs. The Iranians are not yet
defeated in terms of their using various missiles against some
of our allies. They're not yet defeated, and they certainly
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don't think they're defeated.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
People now in charge of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, their
leader who fought for eight years with the Iraqis, and
they took about a million casualties, including three hundred thousand dead.
So there, these are very tough people, and I think
that there was a belief that if we hit them
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hard enough that somehow we would do Okay, and we
hit them pretty darn hard, and they're still there and
they're very defiant. If you look at the most recent proposals,
they were all it's almost like they were taunting President
Trump with ideas like we should pay them reparations for
the war damages and so forth. So I think this
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is sooner or later he's going to have to find
a way to open the straight up amos because if
that's opened, the price of gasoline will drop. And if
the price of gasoline drops, the Republicans will win a
huge victory this fall. But if they don't solve the
price of gasoline, the Democrats are going to win. It's
not complicated.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, you know, In fact, I was That was exactly
where I was going to go next, because I know
that you have a path. I've seen it on social media.
You've posted that you believe there is a path to
Republicans victory, but that it has three components. So, okay,
you just mentioned the first, because that would be my concern.
Anything that prolongs what's happening between the US and Iran
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is going to have an effect on the midterm election.
So let's talk about what else will have an effect
and what we need to do to find that victory
at the midterm.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Well, look, I actually developed sort of four box model
in which the first box is the things we have
done right and the things we will do next two
years if we keep all of power. And you know,
they had a press conference yesterday and they had all
sorts of people there. We're talking about mom dot org,
which is a site the government's put up the shows
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how many different ways you can save money and is
really moving towards affordability and healthcare. We have a good
story in terms of you know, no tacks on tips,
a whole range of other tax breaks that will passed
last year. So there are things we could report to
the country that are pretty good in the presidents made
really good progress and lowering the price of prescription drugs
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and so forth. I think the second box is we
run a project called the practice New Majority Project and
which people can see it by going to America's New
Majority Project dot com. And we do lots of polling
and the Democrats in the sensor at war with the
American people. I mean, one issue after issue there down
at about fifteen percent twelve thirteen percent, with everybody else
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agains of the most recent example is the man who
won three contests against women in California this week, and
the anger among women about the idea that these guys
are now pretending to be women for the purpose of
winning when they shouldn't be. I mean, it's a re
markable moment. And then third, frankly, you've got to recognize
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that Schumer and Jeffrey's the two Democratic leaders would represent
sort of do dangerous things to destructive things Congress that
there I got a majority. And the first the first
thing they would try to do is in peach President
Trump and lock Washington up. They already locked Washington up
on things like the Department of Homeland Security, so imagine
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they were in charge. We would get nothing done for
two years.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You know. One of the things that you said, and
I'm going to go back to it real quick, is
communicate clearly the number of positive achievements in the first
two years. Well, here's the thing, Speaker, the very first
time that he served this country, we could go to
numerous sites and find the list of accomplishments, all the
great things for myself and others who are in the media.
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It was great. It was a great resource for us.
But right now I don't see that kind of messaging
and so basically the bottom line is messaging here and
I'm not seeing it to the degree that we did
during his first term.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Well, I think that's right, And just you know, between
now and Labor Day, they've got to get all that
up and out in the open into the country when
they have a great story to tell. But if you
don't tell it, nobody knows that's true.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You know, There's one thing I did want to bring
up because you wrote a book. The thing is, you
wrote this particular book back in nineteen ninety six and
I was just beginning my own journey in radio, and
I've always had an interest in American history. But your
book was to renew America. And I just have to
ask you, when you think about what you wrote then,
and as we approach America's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,
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what do you see as the most significant cultural or
even political shifts that would have surprised you back in
nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Well, I mean in nineteen ninety six I could work
with Bill Clinton because there were still moderate Democrats who
were in touch with reality, and we could reform welfare.
We passed the only four balanced budgets in the last
hundred years. But we could work together. The Democratic Party
has gone crazy. When the President said in the State
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of the Union, when Democrats were Tea used to stand
and applaud for protecting children, and the President said, you
people are crazy, He's right, They're not liberal. They're not
so it's still crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Oh, he's absolutely.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It's a not almost change from when I was speaker.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, it really is, and the craziness becomes more and
more obvious. But I do think that we have to
include that in our messaging as we go forward. And
there is one other thing I want to ask you too,
because we've seen moments of spiritual renewal in parts of
the country over the past few decades, and especially in
the last i'd even say five years. There's revivals, church
growth in some areas, and there's a renewed interest among
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the younger generation. We've just heard about that recently in
the news. So do you see this as an ongoing
thing that we're going to continue to see renewal, because
it really does tie into what you talked about very
much in your book.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I think there are younger people who look at their
older brothers and sisters, or look at their parents' generation,
and they think, you know, their lives are hollowed it.
You have to have something at the center of your
life to make it worth living. And I think that's
why you've had, for example, so many suicides among the people.
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And I think that the return to faith, seeking to
have God fill up that vacuum. I think that's very real,
and it's a great American tradition. We've had several waves
of revivals going all the way back to the seventeen
thirties and forties, and again in the eighteen thirties and
forties and in the nineteen twenties, and so every once
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in a while, suddenly the American people look up and go,
you know, a life without God is a very lonely life.
And suddenly you get a wave of recommitment that's very
healthy for the country.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, I agree, one hundred percent. Former Speaker of the House,
you can great joining us today on the Sean Hannity show.
Thank you so much, speaker for spending time with me today.
I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Glad to do a roast. Care have a good one,
take care.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah you too, Thank you. We'll be back with more
of the Sean Hannity Show after this. Love talking to
new Gingrich. She's awesome. He's always got the perfect thing
to say because I know he thinks very strongly about
certain issues and he's very thoughtful in his responses. We'll
be right back after this.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
The world is a wait, wait and watching President Trump's
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The phone number here is eight hundred ninety four one Sewan,
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I'm gonna get you. Bruce. I think you deserve a
little more time, so we'll get to you soon. I
have a guest coming up. They're gonna talk about how
churches and parishes across America are emboldening their parishes and
what that means for us as a country. Also, I
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Sean Hannity. It's just awesome that we even have a
director of the White House in the area of faith, right,
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I mean, when's the last time something like that happened,
and then right now it is just more important than ever.
And when you think about some of the things that
New Kingridge talked about about faith, when you look back
at his nineteen ninety six book when he talked about
renewing America, all of this is so important and we're
all a part of it. Just pray about what part
you play in that renewal. So we'll be back with
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This is the Sean Hannity Show.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
My first guest, though, I want to talk to him
because it's so important. We've been talking about America and
as we're approaching its two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, we're
taking a closer look at the faith, family and biblical
values that help shape this nation from the very beginning.
So to help me talk about that right now is
JP Deganz. He's the founder of Communo and he's the
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co author of the book Endgame, the Church's strategic move
to save faith and family in America. Jp is a
ministry leader helping churches strengthen marriages, families, and this is
very important the next generation of faith across America. Hi JP,
thanks for being on today.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Hey Rose, thanks so much for having me. What a
great topic.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, we owe it to our
founding fathers to keep the spirit of America alive. And
that spirit is the one that we find through our
belief in God and the idea that all men are
created equal and that freedom can only be just given
to us by God and God alone, not by men
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because they can take it away. But as we prepared
to celebrate America two fifty, why is it important to
remember that faith was foundational to the birth of this country.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Look.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Look, it's super important for us to recognize that the
ideas of liberty weren't just pulled out of some thought experiment.
They were born out of a very real people with
a very real anthropology and history. And our civilization was
built by pilgrims and settlers. It was not built by
a government, government king. From the civilization built by these
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pilgrims and settlers. And what motivated these people to come
across the sea in such a way that they were
isolated from everything, No earthly king could come to their aid.
They were motivated on a deep faith in Christ. These
were Christian pilgrims, Christian settlers that came. It was their
strong moral commitment that that gave them the self discipline
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to be able to forge civilization out of a wilderness.
And the early the early American experience Alexicatapeville and his
Democracy in America were in the eighteen thirties. He's trying
to understand when you look at republican France, right, it
was so it was so broken, it was so problematic.
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And when we looked at the health of a republic
in America, he saw such a contrast. And he really
his great work of political science was also really a
work of social science. He he recognized that America had
a unique commitment to strong marriages. There were there was
a strong morality born in those strong families. And and
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he saw religion as as the first of their of
their political institutions, not political in the sense of you
derive power from it. It was the first institution that
gave rise to self governance, right. And and so you
can't have a self governing people without the faith of
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early Americans, right.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And without a morality. Right. You know, it's interesting because
you spent years studying how faith is passed down through families,
and you did. There was recent research with Harvard University
that revealed something very surprising to some of us that
read that, could you share that with the audience right now?
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What your recent research with Harvard revealed that surprised you most?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
The reality is faith and family are a double helix.
They mutually reinforce and support each other, and when one
comes on glued, so does the other. We had a
research partnership that was trying to understand how faith moves
from one generation to the next. And what we recognize,
of course is healthy marriages are key there. But then
also certainly getting to church regularly matters. But what was
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the big factor that came up with having open conversations
with your kids about their Christian faith that that kind
of regular conversation, just having those conversations weekly. You were
an adult who said they had those weekly conversations when
they were a child, were two point five higher odds
of having those conversations with their own with their own children.
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And if you remembered having those conversations as much as
even daily with your parents when you were a child,
you had nearly eight times higher odds of having those
same conversations with your own kids. Nothing else. That was
a huge The researcher said, that's a huge finding that
even the action of going to church as a kid
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did not have the same level of replicability. So so
what we thought we have, you know, we uncovered is
is kind of a key specific thing that any parent
can do right now. Like if you're listening to this,
you're driving with your son or daughter running an errand
you can have a conversation with him right now that
has a profound long term impact on their future attack
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their future faith when they're adults.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I think that is so important because I have
an image in my mind of me standing in our kitchen.
I can see it clear as day. So often while
my mom was cooking, I would badger her. My biggest
thing was revelation, Mom, what do you think about this?
And what about that? And I'm talking even as a
younger person, But I think the thing is that we
can integrate, as you said, some aspects of our faith
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into almost every situation. Really, if we would just take
the time to do that and make ourselves aware, because
I feel like jp that we owe this to our
founding Fathers. We owe it to the Puritans. We owe
it to those pilgrims that came over here because they
believed in something so strongly. They believed in freedom of religion,
and they were willing to risk so much to establish
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that freedom as one of our freedoms here in this country.
And we owe it to them. We owe it to
them to continue making this and keeping this a faithful country.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Look, you're not going to have a self governing people
without a virtuous and moral people. And the government can't
form that. The government can't form morals in the way
that a private family can, as John Adams said. And
the reality is is you don't have to be a
biblical scholar to have these conversations. You don't have to
be a theologian to have these conversations. You might just
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ask your son or daughter you're driving, what are you
grateful to God for today? For this week. I do
that regularly with my children. We're just driving around running errands.
And then you can be creative. I love. I was
with my thirteen, ten and seven year old driving in
the car and I said, you know, if you can
go back in time to any any story or passage
in scripture and you could be there and witness it.
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What would it be? And my thirteen year old said, oh,
I'd want to see he was my fourth thirteen year
old boy wanted to be there for David and Goliath.
He wanted to see David out Goliath. And then we
talked about that for a few minutes and how cool
it was, how much how scary it must have been.
And I have my ten year old son and he said, oh,
I'd want to be there in the storm and see
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Jesus and Peter walk on the water. And we talked
about that and the faith there that must have been required.
And then I turned my now because she's six years old,
six year old daughter about to be seven, and she said,
she said, you know, I want to be there and
see Tane and Abel. We look at you.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Oh my goodness, we all start laughing.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
She goes, well, I want to go and slap Tane
and tell him, you know, why do you do that?
Why do you do that? But the point is is
you can have fun with these conversations. You don't have
to be a deep scholar. Okay, there's what you want
to do is help your kids make their make the
(26:13):
faith their own by by engaging them and dialogue in it.
It's important to form them, to teach them the truths
of the faith and the scriptures that that's also super important.
But having these open conversations, you know, asking them what
do they want to pray for today? Right, and then
offer a short prayer while you're driving around, while you're
(26:34):
running an errand those are good, good, simple habits to
do each day and it'll have a profound impacts what
the research suggests.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
So I love that you start with family because really
it starts there and it's about you know, saving faith
and family in America, and that's important. Those are two
things that are really inseparable. But what rule should churches
play in helping rebuild a culture? And in that culture
we're talking marriage, commitment, biblical discipleship, those kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Look, it's absolutely vital. Anybody who's sitting in a church
needs to know that the collapse of the family and
marriage preceded and really cause the societal wide decline in
Christian faith. Right, you start to have a d coupling
of sex from marriage in the nineteen sixties, marriage from parenting,
parenting from partnering, and as non marital households grew you had.
(27:27):
About twenty five years later, the rise of religious nonaffiliation
starts to grow. I write about this in our nationwide
study on Faith and Relationships Goroes. Eighty percent of everybody
sitting in church on Sunday grew up in an intact
married family. And so if there's a man sitting in
church born in the year two thousand, and he's single,
and he's sitting in church, and he's sitting next to
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a guy who's born in nineteen sixty five and he's married, Okay,
both guys, eighty one percent of those men from both
those groups, some of them grew up in a home
where mom and dad stayed continuously married. And so if
we want to understand why there's a lot fewer men
born around the year two thousands sitting in church on
Sunday on average, it's because so many fewer of them
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grew up in an intact married home than those who
grew up in the nineteen sixties. And so our big
message to churches is that the restoration of Christian marriage
is actually an evangelical necessity. We got to bring that about.
The original small group is the family, Okay, that's God's
plan for sharing and passing the faith and marriage is
that covenental sign of salvation, right. We see it in
(28:34):
Genesis at the beginning of salvation history, and it's there
again at the end in Revelation with the eschatological wedding
of the Lamb. And then you have and then you
have it dripping the nuptial meaning of scripture is dripping
throughout scripture in the Old Testament and into the New,
from the minor prophets like Hoseiah, the Psalms of Solomon,
to the major prophets like Isaiah. And you see it
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in Paul's writing when he lays out that great mystery
in a Fees five where he gives us a window
into Christ's love for his church as a bride and
as a sacrificial love of the bridegroom for his bride.
And so it shouldn't be surprising. I tell pastors and
church leaders that when the human story of love breaks down,
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when less and less people experience the human love story,
less and less people experience the love of an earthly father.
And when less and less people experience the love of
an earthly father, less and less accept the love of
the heavenly Father, and so these things are deeply interrelated.
And the goodness is God's hardwired us for this. God
has hard wired us for love and for relationships, for marriage.
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And so the world has been selling some bad goods
over the last number of decades. And so the overwhelming
science keeps showing the happiest people are married people who
have kids, and married people who have kids who go
to church are happier still. And so the church can
be a place where our folks learn to love, learned
(29:57):
the love well, and then decid piple our kids well,
and then it can be a front porch. It can
be a way to draw people in with you know,
in a situation with such loneliness and isolation and growing
mental health challenges and suicidal ideation, the church has to
sell to the world. And that's the gospel.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, you know, And as we had towards this historic
two hundred and fiftieth celebration, you can see that you
have hope about the future of faith in America. And
we have about a minute here I'd love for you.
We're talking to JP Ducan Begins and he's the co
author of the book called Endgame. I think you should
all pick this up. It's very important, especially right now
as we do celebrate this specific anniversary the Church's Strategic
(30:42):
Move to Save Faith and Family in America. How can
people learn more about your organization and about the book.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, go to Communia dot org and on there you
can set up for our free newsletter. You can download
you want some of the data that I share nationwide
setting faith relationships, you can download for free under the
research tab. And then you can buy the book right
from our website or from or from Amazon. End Game
the Church's Strategic Move to Save Faith and Family in America.
And it's co authored with my my friend doctor John
(31:12):
van App. It's a great resource and action plan for
the church.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You know what. God bless you and thank you for
your efforts on behalf of this country and American families.
That's Communio c O M M you Nio dot com.
Thank you so much, JP, thank blessing it.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Troe's great to be with you.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Thank you. All right, So we'll be back with lots
more of the Sean Hannity Show. I'll be taking your
phone calls next so don't go too far away. Also,
we have Bill O. Rilly coming up next hour. And
Jenny Corn, the Faith director for the White House.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Kennedy Watch Gep been an eye on breaking news and
bringing it to you first.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Sean, Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. The phone
(32:26):
number here is one eight hundred and ninety four one Sean.
I'm gonna take Bruce from Tennessee. He's been waiting. I'll
get to all of you, I hope this afternoon. Bruce.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
How are you, hey, Rose, I'm good, good shoe, thank you.
I'm a senior citizen, almost seventy army veteran conservative Republican patriots.
And I got to say, the best election in my
lifetime was the midterm election of nineteen ninety four. And
(32:58):
that was organized and led. I demand you just had
on a little earlier Newt Gingris.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
And my statement about this is that's uh why that
it was a landslide victory for the Republicans and they
finally had everything organized, ten major issues that the American
public was interested in. And he organized Congress, all the Republicans,
(33:24):
pretty much all the Republicans in Congress better than anyone
I had ever seen. Everyone was on the same page.
They were all giving the same message about these ten
issues and my promise. I haven't seen him do it
since that was the point.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Well, he hasn't had that opportunity, I would think, or
the people in agreement. You're right, the contract with America
was amazing. I do have to let you go, but Bruce,
I agree with you one hundred percent. Thank you for
your service. By the way, Bruce, and he's a brilliant mind,
brilliant political mind. Please check me out on Real Life Network.
My show is Rose Unplugged. Sign in and Google or
search it. I'm sorry, Rose ugg on Real Life neetwork
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dot com. We'll be back with Bill O'Reilly coming up next.
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