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May 5, 2026 30 mins

Sean Hannity focuses on sanctuary jurisdictions, ICE enforcement, and the growing conflict between federal immigration authorities and local Democratic officials. Congressman Jim Jordan joins the show to discuss House Judiciary investigations into jurisdictions like Philadelphia and Arlington, where local policies allegedly limit cooperation with immigration enforcement. Jordan explains proposed legislation that would restrict federal funding for sanctuary jurisdictions and create legal consequences when released illegal immigrants harm American citizens. The hour also returns to Iran, with Hannity and Jordan arguing that President Trump’s military and economic pressure is necessary to prevent Iran from ever obtaining a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Sean Hannity Show, Tolfree. It is eight hundred and
nine four one, Shawn. If you want to be a
part of the program, we're getting reports almost now on
a daily basis that you have elected Democrats that are
doing everything within their power in terms of aiding and

(00:20):
a betting, law breaking and obstructing the work of immigration
enforcement and ICE enforcement. Now there is a new investigation
into corrupt states Virginia, Pennsylvania, Arlington, and it's only getting worse.
And the question is how much longer are these elected
officials going to get away with aiding and a betting

(00:40):
in the law breaking. Now, if you look at, for example,
Philadelphia and the district attorney there, Larry Krasner, you know,
he's threatening to arrest ICE agents working at airports who
break the law, according to him. In meanwhile, they're not
breaking the law, they're enforcing the law.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Listen, this is how it works.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
You commit crimes within the jurisdiction that is the city
and County of Philadelphia, I prosecute you.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
That is how it works.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
No, I don't take a phone call from the President
saying let them go. No, the President cannot pardon you.
I'll say it again, the President cannot pardon you. And yes,
I will put you in handcuffs, and I will put
you in a courtroom, and if necessary, I will put
you in a jail cell. If you decide to make
the torazzo floor of this airport anything like what you

(01:29):
did in the streets of Minneapolis, which involved the criminal
homicide of unarmed, innocent people, we are not having that here.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Never mind the thousands and thousands of people that ICE
has taken off the street. They are arresting known terrorists
and murderers and child molesters and other violent criminals and
cartel members and gang members. And they don't get an anulyci
of credit from any of these people. In other words,
they're making cities and towns safe and secure. But finally

(02:01):
people are doing something about it. Congressman Jim Jordan, chairman
of the all powerful House Judiciary Committee, is with us
with a new investigation into these corrupt states. What can
be done about it? Because they're now targeting, for example,
all three of Arlington in Virginia, their main criminal justice
agencies and local policies that restrict contact with immigration enforcement.

(02:25):
I mean, I mean, how is that possible when this
is you know, we have the supremacy Clause to the Constitution.
The supremacy clause is clear that federal laws are enforced
by the federal government, not by local jurisdictions. Anyway, Congressman
Jordan of Ohio's with us, sir, Hew, are you undo.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Fue Sean, And you explained it well and listen to Crassler.
It's like he cares more about protecting pollitgal migrant than
he does about the citizens that he's supposed to be serving.
That is the bottom line, and that's exactly what happens
in these sanctuary jurisdictions. So we're looking at Arlington, PHILADEPI.
But remember Sean, almost a third of the country now
lives in a sanctuary jurisdiction. I mean, you've got eighteen

(03:04):
of the big blue cities, eleven states, three counties, discrup
Columbia sanctuary.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Wait a minute, what percentage now live under a sanctuary
of protections?

Speaker 4 (03:11):
Thirty one point five. Almost a third of this nation
live in a sanctuary jurisdiction where the politicians tell local
law enforcement not to work with federal law enforcement when
it comes to enforcing federal law. Now, we've passed the
bill out of our committee. We're going to have it
on the House floor, I think real soon and passed
out of the House. That does the way that this says,
We're not going to give you a grand dollars pure
sanctuary jurisdiction. We're going to give community to local law

(03:33):
enforcements who want to work with federal law enforcement. And
you've got politicians, left wing politicians, you say otherwise, and
we're going to say to this think about this. In
twenty twenty five, seventeen thousand times a detainer was not honored.
They let out a bad guy, an illegal microan who
has done some crime, some other crime, and he goes
out and commits another crime against an American citizen. Seventeen
eight hundred and sixty four times that happened. And we're

(03:54):
going to say to those individuals who were harmed, you
have recourse now to bring cause of action against that
in see that city, of that state. That's the sanctuary jurisdiction.
So that's how bad this problem is and how these
these left wing policies are hurting American citizens.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, I love the cause of action, and I like
that people will have the option of being able to remedy,
you know, a wrong such as this, but it's institutionalized
as what you're describing here. How is it that these
elected officials get away with aiding and abetting in the
law breaking? And how come they're not held accountable. But
let's put it this way. If I were to protect

(04:30):
somebody in this country illegally, what would happen to me?

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah, we'd all be we'd all be in trouble. And
I do think that that the Justice farm is going
to start looking at this in that light. We're we're
going to uh, we're going to have the hearings, We're
going to do our oversight work. We can't prosecute We've
had this conversation eight times before. Some we can't prosecute everyone,
you know that. But what we can do is get
the facts out there and highlight what's going on, and
then look at legislation like the bill I just described
that we've already passed through our committee and are and

(04:55):
are going to move on the House floor with it
real soon. So that's what we can do in the House.
But and then also just talk about how most people,
I think in this country don't realize that a third
of the population lives in a sanctuary jurisdiction where they're
they're not owning a detainer. When Ice finds out there's
an illegal migrant in the local detention center who's committed
a crime and other crime, and they say, hey, we're

(05:15):
going to let this individual give us the heads up,
And Krasner and Philadelphia won't do it, and folks and
Arlington won't do it. No, they let him out on
the street, and they do terrible things, as they said
seventeen thousand times, over seventeen thousand times in twenty twenty five,
where a citizen was harmed by someone where they could
have just turned them over to Ice and the Ice
would have deported them. But no, no, no, we're going to
let them out on the streets because of this left

(05:36):
wing ideology, and they're going to they're going to harm
American citizens. That's what's got to stop.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
So whatever happens really is because of their actions. Okay,
so you can hold the jurisdiction, I guess responsible. There'll
be a they'll now be remedy and recourse for people.
But the question is what happens to the people that
are making the decisions and making the threats against vice
agents Now to the credit of Tom Homan, and I've

(06:03):
interviewed him many times about it. He's he's not swayed
in any way, shape, matter of form. As a matter
of fact, when these threats are usually made, he shows
up in their city the next day and lets him know, Sorry,
there's a new sheriff in town.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
You don't get to tell me what to do.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, Well, at some point you have to have the
local voters say enough is enough. We're not going to
tolerate our local DA, our local police chief or whatever.
We're not going to tolerate them going against the will
of the people and letting bad guys onto our streets.
And they're going to have to elect someone who says, no,
we're gonna we're going to enforce the law, and we're
going to work with federal law enforcement when it comes

(06:39):
to enforcing federal law. So that's that's the ultimate remedy.
And I do think more than more of these community
as saying, wait a minute, this, this is ridiculous, this
is crazy. We're not going to tolerate it anymore, all right.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
You have said a number of letters to the Arlington
County Police Department, the Arlington County Sheriff's office, the Arlington
Commonwealth's Attorney's office. You did send a letter to this
guy Krasner in Philly because instead of complying with simple
ice detainers, they're choosing to put quote so called rights

(07:12):
of illegal immigrants that didn't respect our laws, borders and sovereignty.
They are in the country illegally and then committing more
crimes when they get here. So what is the next
steps to this? I mean, they come before committee, I
have a hearing and nothing gets done. Or is it
time now to maybe prosecute those people that refuse to

(07:33):
enforce the law and aid in a bed in the
law breaking.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, and I think that that, in may of fact
be time for that. I leave that question to Attorney
General Blanch, who I think is doing an outstanding job.
Might have, you know, you think about what he did
with Southern Poverty Law Center, what we learned from them,
what he did with mister Comy who threatened the President
of the United States. But I'll leave that to talk.
What we can do is continue to do oversight, get
the acts, call these guys in for hearings, raise attention

(07:59):
to hopefully that has an impact on the voters in
their respective jurisdiction and then pass legislation and frankly, maybe
limit the amount of money these guys get some federal
grant programs and federal money that that is that is
given to these communities who apply for these certain grants.
Maybe we've got to start using the power the person
a little bit more as well.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
So all those are the.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Remedies we have in the legislative branch, and we intend
to exercise.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
All of them.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
All right, well, I have you on the phone, let
me let me shift gears on you a little bit.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
The President's blockade has been working very effectively. It seems
that if there's if, if the Iranians keep sending out
these small little pontoon boats that they have left because
they don't have a navy anymore, and try to disrupt
the free flow of oil at market prices in the
straight or horn moves, it seems that the next step

(08:46):
is that the President is not going to wait and
stand back much longer, and that there'll be more strikes
on Iran. Do you think it needs to be blockade
embargo plus? Do you think the president needs to now
reconsider going back militarily and how far should he go
if he wipes out the infrastructure, And the President told
me this personally, he feels like, well, that will remove

(09:08):
any possibility that the Iranian people, some ninety plus million
of them, will ever have a chance to rebuild their economy.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
What are your thoughts, Well, I think whatever it takes
to achieve the goal. The President is more than any
elected officials, certainly in our lifetime, does what he said
he was going to do. And he told the American people,
I Am not going to let Iran get a nuclear weapon.
We cannot have this regime get there. So whatever tactics, strategy,

(09:35):
whatever missions they have to do to accomplish that goal,
that's what I'm for because this regime, I think we
talked about this before sewn in Iran wrestling is huge
and this regime is so evil. They took their nineteen
year old junior champion, according to press reports, and they
hung this individual in a public in a public square
to send a message, we don't care piece to our

(09:55):
star athlete in our key sport. We are going to
show you that we're in charge. That is how evil
they are. So you cannot let them get a nuclear weapon.
President Trump understands that I think most Americans was common
since understand that, and I'm for whatever it takes to
accomplish that goal. The other goals that have been talked about,
that's different.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Change everything else. But you cannot let them get a
nuclear weapon for the safety of Americans, Israelis, and for
everyone around the world. You just cannot let that happen.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
All right, quick break more with Congressman Jim Jordan, chairman
of the House Judiciary Committee on the other side. Then
we'll get to your calls coming up eight hundred and
nine to four one, Shawn, if you want to be
a part of the program.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
As we continue the.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Coast to coast quarter the water, Sean Hennity is on
the radio right now.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
All right, we continue with Jim Jordan, He's the chairman
of the House Judiciary Committee, congressman from Ohio. You know,
you know what I find remarkable in all of this,
and I've listened to a lot of commentary, and there's
so much fake news out there. I mean, you've got
two news channels that did just pedal propaganda. Then you've
got this whole you know, isolationist podcast wing was that

(11:36):
are perfectly fine with the notion that our children and
grandchildren will inherit a world with a nuclear armed Duran.
I don't think that goes very well with radical Islamis
that think that virgins await them in heaven. If they
killing us, amend women and children, that is an existential threat.
We also learned in this process that their ballistic missile
range is much further than anybody ever bel leaved it

(12:00):
to be, which means they have the ability now to
strike cities like Paris and London and other European countries,
which then, you know, begs the question why haven't these
European countries gotten involved and why don't they have the
moral clarity and what the future of NATO will be at.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
The end of this.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, I mean they didn't get involved because it's easier
not to. It's always the United States. It does, it's
help work, and particularly when you have a president like
President Trump, who is a guy who does what he
said he's going to do. So I think that's that's
that's that's been the concern. Let's hope they understand that
the threat is real to them. I mean the weapons
Iran is going to get, You're us a lot closer

(12:38):
than the United States of America, and I think they
they should, they should recognize that fact. What I know
is this president keeps his words. This president told the
American people, I will cut your saxes, the largest tax
cut in American history.

Speaker 7 (12:48):
He did it.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
This president said I will secure the border. He did it.
I still remember that that joint addressed to Congress last
year when he said, you know, everyone needed a new
new law to secure the border. Turned out all you
needed was a new president. And then this president and
said he would not let her rank get a nuclear weapon.
And he's determined to do what he said because it's
for the good of this country and frankly, the good
of the world.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
You know, beyond the interviews that I had with Steve
Witkoff on this radio program and on my TV show,
and he was negotiating with the Iranians, and they're bragging
about their four hundred and sixty kilograms about one thousand
pounds of sixty percent enrich enriched uranium, which can be
enriched to weapons grade ninety percent in less than twelve days.

(13:28):
Every single person that actually knows people that would have
access although they didn't share that part with me. For example,
to the Presidential Daily briefings where our intelligence community was
uniform in their belief and their understanding that they really
had it and that this was a clear present danger

(13:49):
not only to the US but to the entire world.
And then you have these these people spreading these just
outright lies. Well, he's President Trump's only listening to Nathan Yahoo.
President Trump's only doing this for Israel. President Trump's listening
to Mark Levin and Sean Hannity. And I'm listening to
these people and I'm like, are you out.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Of your mind?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, because we both know we've known President Trump for decades,
and I'm like, do you know anything about this man?
He listens to everybody. As a matter of fact, some
of the people saying it, you know, we're pleading with
him not to engage in Operation Epic Fury. He listens
to everybody. But then he does make up his own mind.

(14:28):
How come people can't get that part of him?

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, you've been around. That is exactly how he operates.
He gets all the inputs from everybody. He asked probing questions,
what do you think, what do you think? How about this?
And then he makes a decision. And he makes a
decision again in the best interest of the United.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
States, and I wish he would, by the way, I
wish he would listen to me more. Yeah, but he
also made me I wish I could just call up
the President say I think you need to do a
B and C. I expect it done by noon tomorrow.
It's just about how this guy rolls. He does listen
to everybody, but then he makes his own mind up.
And everybody that knows told me the same thing. This

(15:05):
is what they told me. He didn't have a choice.
The people that know, the people that see the intelligence,
probably people like you.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well, I listened to your interview with wik kaff I
heard markle Vin when he had Steve Baugh, and when
Steve walked through what him and Jared were doing, everything
we offered Iran that was reasonable, that made sense that
any irrational person, rational regime would have accepted. When he
walked all through it, You're like, he didn't have a
choice because he told the American people, we're not going

(15:34):
to let this regime forty seven years largest state sponsored terrorism,
doing all the things they done. We're not going to
let him get a nuclear weapon. He had to take
that action, and I'm my belief is do whatever it
takes to achieve that.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Objective, and by the way, he's been saying it since
twenty fifteen, which is in keeping with the Trump doctrine
and defeating ISIS and Solomani and Bagdaddy and also Operation
Midnight Hammer. Jim Jordan, We appreciate your House Judiciary Committee chairman, Sir,
thank you, appreciate.

Speaker 8 (16:06):
You standing up for what's right with America. We're back

(16:28):
on the Sean Hannity Show.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
All right, twenty five till the top of the hour,
eight hundred and nine four one Shawn our number. If
you want to be a part of the program. We'll
get to your calls coming up in mere moments. All right, JB. Pritzker. Now,
remember it's Donald Trump who has now been the victim
of not one, not two, but three assassination attempts.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Three would be assassins. But JB.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Pritzker is blaming Trump, saying Trump set the tone where
political violince is okay. Listen to what this idiot in
Illinois had to say.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think the environment.

Speaker 7 (17:05):
Look, our leaders set the tone in this country, and
I think that the President of the United States has
set a tone where political violence is okay. He's advocated
it himself before. It's a terrible thing. I mean, he's experienced,
That's what I'm saying. He's experienced the other side of that.
We got to stand up against this. We need to

(17:26):
be speaking out against political violence.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
He set the tone. It's a terrible thing. He's been
the victim of three assassination attempts. Let's listen to the
tone set by, which is such a terrible thing by JB.
Pritzker himself.

Speaker 7 (17:44):
I studied the Holocaust. I'd helped to build a Holocaust museum.
This is what happened in the early days of the
Nazi regime in Germany. Everything that he has done has
been tearing down constitutional democracy, and that's what it happened
in Nazi Germany. It doesn't take very long to tear
apart a constitutional republic. Indeed, the Nazis did it in

(18:07):
fifty three days, and our democracy is almost as fragile,
and we're seeing it right now. The dangers that we
saw in Nazi Germany, especially in the earliest days of
Nazi Germany, are the dangers that we need to react
to now. People have criticized me for talking about the

(18:31):
Nazi regime. It's the one I know most about because
I helped to build a Holocaust museum.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
This is what happened.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
People's rights started getting taken away, people got accused of
being immigrants. This is before the Holocaust really took place.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
That small clips six Nazi references to Donald Trump, and
that setting the tone. And that's being a terrible thing.
Only an idiot like JB. Pritzker Here's that's the sad part.
Nobody else will ever talk about it.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Anyway. Let's get to our busy phones.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Jay is in Charleston. He's in South Carolina. Have you
ever been to Hall's Steakhouse in Charleston?

Speaker 9 (19:14):
No, sir, but I have heard of it. It's a
fantastic privilege to talk to you.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
Again.

Speaker 9 (19:19):
I have never been there, but I have heard of
all steak house Yester.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Oh, it's great if you ever get a chance and
you're like a great steak it's a great place.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (19:30):
I love a great steak. Also, I wouldn't to mention
that I love Linda and I love Katie. They're fantastic.
You're okay to by the.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Way, Why why are you sucking up? I love them,
but you're okay? I love them, but you're Okay, okay,
you keep going with this call because it's not going
well for you so far.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Keep going.

Speaker 9 (19:49):
No, I just wanted to. I just wanted to. I
just wanted Sean to discourage you from going to China.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Uh, you want to discourage me from going to China?
Why is that?

Speaker 9 (20:01):
Because, Sir, I think it's very dangerous. I think it's
very dangerous. I don't want the President to go there either.
But there are only a handful of real conservative voices
that we have, and we can't afford to lose one
of the greatest ones, that being the user.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
And well, I take that as the highest compliment. Let
me let me ask you, and I want to just
take this a little bit deeper. Now, should fear govern
our decisions in life?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
In your view?

Speaker 9 (20:38):
I fear if fear based on experience?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Well, I mean we are on Air Force One. I've
been on Air Force one before with the President Trump.
They often have fighter jets surrounding it. I'm sure without
I mean, well, actually, the History Channel, I believe it's
either that or NATCHI or one of them, you know,
has a whole documentary on Air Force one and the

(21:06):
protections around it. I look, I appreciate the sentiment, but
I'm going to tell you I'm never gonna make a
decision out of fear of doing something, because I can't
live my life that way. But God forbid if something
did happen to me. This is my message to all
of you. My first thing I would say to you
is God bless all of you and your families. I

(21:29):
thank you so much from the bottom of my heart
for allowing me into your homes on radio, TV and
now the podcast, and that whatever you do, I want
you to just pick up the mantle and keep fighting
for the greatest country God gave man. And that that
is my message to you, you know, because we never

(21:51):
know when God is going to call us home, and
we're not on our time, We're on His time. And
at the end of the day, I'm not I will
have no fear, no trepidation.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I'm planning to go on the trip and I don't
like that. I'm not going to be on the air
as much as I normally am. However, it is historic.
I will cover it. I'll get the first interview with
the President after his meeting with President she and I
think it's important for my audience that I'd be able
to do that and do my job to the best

(22:22):
of my ability. But I do appreciate the sentiment. I
really do. When I went to a rack many years
ago and I went with Don Romsfeld, and it was
a very cool trip because you fly in a C
one thirty and you have in air refuelings and twenty
one year old pilots. I mean, it was crazy, and

(22:42):
I learned so much about how great our heroes are
and they do this every single day, and you have
a corkscrewed down landing. And then we got on helicopters
with the doors open and guys manning guns on the
outside of it. We went into the red zone, which
is combat has taken place, and you know, did I

(23:03):
think something could happen? Of course, something can happen. They
knew Don Rumsdell was there. They knew he was in
one of those helicopters. You know, when we're corkscrewing down
on a C one thirty, they're telling everybody on the
C one thirty to look out the window to see
if they see anything anything from the surface coming up
to the air that might be coming at the plane
so they can dodge it. But that's what our military

(23:26):
faces every day. We wouldn't be able to defend freedom
because they define courage in ways that we can't even imagine.
So you know, doing what I do is relatively, you know,
risk free in some senses. I've had my share fair
share of threats over the years, and I take them seriously.
But then I move on and I don't I don't

(23:47):
dwell on it. I don't think you can live your
life that way.

Speaker 9 (23:50):
Well, mister Hannity, if you would do us all a
favorite and be very careful, please, sir, Well.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I appreciate your kind words.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
My hope is is that I'll be back on the
air when I get back. If I go home, I'm
very grateful to everyone in this audience for all that
you've given me in my life that is undeserved. And
you know, keep up the good fight. No, I loved you,
appreciated you, and I'll be looking down praying for all
of you. Okay, anyway, appreciate the call. Eight hundred. Linda

(24:20):
will miss me. I don't think you really will, not that.

Speaker 10 (24:23):
I gotta tell you something. I haven't told you this
because you always think I'm doing it because I don't
want you to go because either you're gonna go and
you're gonna do the thing, or you're going to stay
and you're gonna do the show. But I have gotten
a lot of emails like that, call a lot of emails.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Don't go.

Speaker 10 (24:37):
It's not safe. They could hurt you, they could hurt
the president. YadA YadA, yadda. There's a lot of people
who feel that way.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I just how could I possibly not go and do
my job when our brave men and women are right
now in the strait of horror? Mooz, how do I
look myself in the mirror if I'm not willing to
do my part? I can't do that with who I am.
Get at it, I can't. And whatever happens, just just

(25:04):
everybody on this team though I loved all of you too,
even Linda.

Speaker 10 (25:09):
Listen, we're gonna miss you, but I promise I'll say
nice things. I'm gonna play all your favorite songs.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, play you know, play my songs. Have fun. I
don't want any If I haven't. My will no crying
at my funeral help that. I think that's why you will.
You can be the enforcer of that and say he
said no crying stop.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Get out.

Speaker 10 (25:29):
Stop it, take it outside.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
We don't do that in here, oh man.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Eight hundred nine one Shawn is a number you want
to be a part of the program, Quick break right back.
More of your phone calls coming up. Eight hundred and
nine four one, Shawn, if you want to be a
part of the program. As we continue up next our
final roundup and information overload hour, All right, let's get

(26:24):
back to our busy phones. Eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean.
If you want to be a part of the program,
let us say hello to Patrick in California, Avin Newsom's
communist utopia.

Speaker 11 (26:37):
Hello, you got that right, Hey, Sean. If I'm not
watching it on TV, I'm listening to you on the radio.
Thank God, there's somebody of a voice for the little
guy out there, because we sure need it.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Well, I'm blessed to do it.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
And the people that are out there that are making
commentary that is so insane, I have a very hard
time understanding where they're all coming from.

Speaker 11 (27:00):
Hey, I heard you talking about Awake the other day,
and I have the origins of it. I'm also Irish
and around the thirteen hundred and fifteen hundreds, the men
would walk to the pub, from their house to the pub,
or from pub to pub, and they had their own
mug or steying, and sometimes those things were made out
of lead, and what would happen is inevitably they'd get

(27:24):
lead poisoning, and so on their way back to another
pub or home, they'd pass out and they'd be lying
there alongside the road and they couldn't tell if they
were still alive or they'd passed on, so they'd take
them home, put them on a table, the kitchen table.
A lot of times are caught and they'd wait three
days to see if they woke up or passed on.

(27:45):
And that's where that came from. They're waiting for them
to wake up.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I just, as a kid founded the creepiest thing in
the world, you know, open casket and then watching everybody react, I.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Didn't learn a lot from it.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
And you can't judge people based on how they react
to death. I mean, there's one group of people that's
telling jokes, they're laughing up a storm, another group of
people they're drinking and having a great time. Another group
of people that are just they can't stop crying. They're
hysterically crying. And then the weirdest group to me are
the people that go up to the dead body, touch

(28:21):
the dead body, kiss the dead body, hold the hand
of the dead person. I'm like, that freaks me out.
I don't want to touch a dead person. I want
to be remembered as I was alive. I don't want
to be you know, when certain people in my life
died and I was young, and I'd go to one
of these Irish wakes and you know, you'd stare at
the body for three days, that was the image that

(28:44):
was burnt into my memory. It's it's not the good
times that I had with that person. Hence I have
in my will put in I want to close casket.
I want to be remembered as I was alive. Hence,
if I ever got if I ever became you know, incapacitated.
You know, I want to be sent somewhere so that,

(29:06):
you know, my family doesn't remember me like I remember.
My poor grandfather had a stroke and he was living
in my room at the time when I was growing up,
and you know, he's paralyzed on half his body and
this this vibrant, strong, you know, Irish man, you're a
damn fool, you are, He used to say to me,
you know, all of a sudden, is you know, screaming

(29:26):
out his daughter's name. And I'm like, oh, this is horrible.
I don't want to be remembered that way. I just
maybe that's just my weird way of thinking. Maybe it's
morbid to think that way. I'm just I don't know.
I don't I want to live life to its fullest.
And if I had my choice, I'd rather go quick,
boom out.

Speaker 11 (29:45):
In your sleep.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (29:48):
And when my mom passed away, she had sound mind
the thirty six hours I ever get. We she did have
an open casket, and we're Catholic, and she never looked
so good. They did such a good job on her.
But I had gone to.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Another Everybody says that the person dead person looks great.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Don't they look great? I'm looking at them, they're dead.
What are you talking about? They look good. I don't
understand that.

Speaker 11 (30:13):
The makeup.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Why we're make up every night, so I'm used to it.
People will say, oh, he looks like he's on a
show with his eyes closed.

Speaker 11 (30:23):
Open casket. And it was a guy and I was
working with and he'd got in a plane accident and
I didn't want to go to work and I was
encouraged just just look at him one more time, and
I thought, oh my god, I saw them has like
a bad wax dummy version of the guy. I wish
I've never seen it.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
It's terrible, I know, and that memory gets etched into
into your brain. I appreciate the call.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Thank you,

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