September 3, 2026 • 34 mins
Evita Duffy Alfonso joins Joe Pags to talk about becoming an outspoken conservative at the University of Chicago after a simple anti-socialism message triggered harassment, attacks, and even a death threat. She explains why conservative students should not abandon elite institutions, how parents can decide whether their children are prepared for hostile campus environments, and why reclaiming universities matters to the broader culture. Pags also breaks down the U.S.-Canada trade dispute, while Linda shares the remarkable story of rescuing a dog from highway traffic and reuniting him with his family. :::
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm watching AOC.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
She's saying, I was only kidding about the things I
used to say. But they'll go back to those things.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
We must pass my trans bill of rights.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
If Democrats were able to take back the gavel in
the House, would you support impeaching Donald Trump?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
On day one, Peter. I am so thankful that young
activists have really drawn the link between climate change and
white supremacy and capitalism. Hannity's on!
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On!
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And so is the countdown.
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T-minus 61 days until Election Day.
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Speaker 4 (01:33):
Joe Pag's in for Sean Hannity. Glad to be here.
It's 1-800-941-SEAN, 1-800-941-7326, along with Linda and Ethan and my daughter, Sam.
We're getting it done today. Bottom of the hour, a
fun interview with Evita Duffy. Now, Evita Duffy Alfonso is
her full name. She's married now. It's a fun interview
because she's a young conservative. She's the daughter of Rachel
(01:54):
Compost Duffy and Sean Duffy. He's the secretary of transportation. She,
of course, is a great host over on Fox. But
Evita also had a great podcast herself, decided to be
a stay-at-home mom. But they're doing something, it's called the
Great American, Sam, what is it called? The Great American Trip?
The Great American Tour? You can go and check that
out over on YouTube. The entire Duffy family is like
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loading up on a bus or something and going around
the country. It's actually pretty fun. We have a great
conversation with her. The Clancy case, they've sent the jury
home again today. They are still not able to come
to a verdict. The judge looks like he wants a verdict.
He's not playing around. He interviewed each of them individually.
It looks like there's one juror that's holding out. We're
not sure which way that juror is going. No idea
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which way the other 11 are going. And I talked
to Greg Jarrett about this right when this news broke
about an hour and a half ago. And what Greg
said was, it looks like the defense attorney is trying
to suggest that the one holdout is somebody who wants
to find her guilty. Everybody else wants to find her
not guilty. We don't know that. I think that's just
this person putting this into the ether. But there is
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the possibility of removing the one juror that will not decide.
But you can only do that if they're not following
the rules and the instructions. We don't know if that
juror is saying, listen, I'm following the rules and the instructions.
I really believe this way. Or if they're fingers in
the ears and they're going, no, no, no, no, no, no,
we're not listening to you. So we'll find out. If
anything else breaks in this hour, we'll make sure we
bring it to you. Again, if he's at the bottom
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of the hour, I want to make fun of Canada
a little bit. A, coming up this half hour as well.
But nothing is more important on the agenda today for me.
Then Linda McLaughlin saved a dog, I understand. Linda, is
this true? You saved a dog's life? What the hell happened?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
So last night I was on the highway.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And I was going to my son's back-to-school night, and
I basically.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Was driving.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
It was very, very busy. It had just gone off
the air. I was on this really busy highway in
rush hour, and I saw something white coming in, like
opposing oncoming traffic, and I'm like, what the hell is that?
And then I looked over and I was like, oh,
my God, it's a dog. And no one is stopping.
Everyone's doing 70 miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
So I slow down to about 40. Then I come
to a complete stop. I take over the right lane.
I put my flashers on. I jump out of my car.
I run after the dog. This other car comes up
behind me and manages to kind of curtail the shoulder.
So he's kind of like stuck. And I'm like, tell him, baby,
come to me. Come to me, please, because I love animals.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
And he runs to me and I said, come on,
get my car, get my car. And this woman gets
out to help me. And it ends up being my mother.
Like totally randomly. It's my mom behind me on the highway.
And she goes, she goes.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I swear to God.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
She said, I saw this car pull over and I'm thinking, oh,
thank God somebody's stopping. I'll stop too. And I'll help.
And she goes, and then I see this woman running
down the highway. I'm like, look at this woman. She's
running for the dog. And then I go, oh my God,
that's my kid. And I started laughing. So then she
followed me because I'm on my way to the school
for the parent teacher meeting. And long story short, I
transferred the dog into her car. We got him to
the police station and his very, very happy owners We're
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so grateful, and we were able to match him back
up with his family and get him home. So I
was really happy. He had blood on his head, and
he was really dirty.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Wow, but he's going to be okay.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
He's fine. His name is Rex. He's a three-year-old, and
he's a beautiful white. I mean, my God, he had
these gorgeous light blue husky eyes, just a stunning dog.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
But yeah, funny story, really random.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, obviously, your mom raised you right, but I just
got to tell you, I needed to hear the story
because you say dog like my mom says dog.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I love your mother.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You know what I mean? Sam, you know what I mean?
Grandma says dog. And we make fun of it every time,
but it's so endearing.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
What you mean is grandma says it right. That's what
you meant.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Oh, exactly right. I used to say dog, but I
moved to Florida when I was seven, so I lost
the accent. I got the radio Midwestern nothing now, unless
I'm mad, then you'll hear the New York come out.
What a great story. Now, I've got a couple of dogs.
Sam has a couple of dogs. We love our dogs
in the PAGS houses. And I just think that's awesome.
We probably would have done the same thing. I know
Sam would have. Me, I'm a little heavy on the
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right foot in the car, so maybe I would have.
But Sam, without a doubt, would have stopped in. But
Sam probably would not have found the owners if it's
a beautiful dog. she probably would have said, you know,
this dog would get along with my dogs.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Oh, whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
No, I would read the collar.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I would call them, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Oh, you would call them? Don't start.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Well, that was the problem. The dog didn't have anything.
The dog didn't have, it was completely no collar, no tags,
no nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
How did you find the owners?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
We got to the police station. We called ahead and
we went to the police station. If you can believe it,
this is not the first time I've done this. So
when I got to the police station, I'm like, what
is it with you? I'm like, hi, how are you?
Here I am again. And anyway, so I had the
dog and the the family had actually called the police
station and said, has anybody called in a dog? And
they said, actually, we have a woman here sitting with
this beautiful dog in her back seat. And they're like,
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that's our dog. And as soon as they got there,
the dog ran to the owners. It was really nice.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
The dog just got away from the yard? I mean,
what happened?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I honestly don't know. And the woman was so hysterical
that my mother could not even ask her. She was
just so happy to see the dog and was like,
oh my God. I mean, the dog was only three.
And I think it's probably like, you know, it was
so beautiful and so happy. And we were just kind
of like, okay. And she's like, I want to give
you that. I said, I don't want anything. I'm just
glad the dog is safe. Have a nice night. Please
keep your dog on a leash so I don't have
to stop on the highway again. See you later.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
What a great story. I love it. Linda, that's awesome. Uh,
we've got to make fun of Canada a little bit.
I love Canada. Those who are listening in Canada, I
know that you listened to Sean Hannity show. I know
that you listened to his podcast. Uh, I'm all, I'm,
I don't know why, but I'm moving up the charts
in Canada, too, which is kind of dumb. Probably because
I keep on going, oh, Canada, on my show, and
I think they get angry at me. But we've been
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to Canada several times. We lived in Michigan seven or
eight years. We lived in New York, upstate New York,
for a long time. And we would go through Canada
to go between Michigan and New York. It's a great place.
We've had breakfast there. We've spent a little bit of
time there. They're great people. I just think you keep
electing idiots. And the problem is we're getting the lie
from Carney, the sort of Justin Trudeau 2.0. We're getting
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the word from him that he wants America to play
seriously now. Stop playing games. Let's get serious. Well, I wondered,
is there something to why the talks broke down? The
trade talks between Canada and us, we are 13 times
the economy candidates, 13 times. They need us way more
than we need them. Plus, I don't know if anybody
told them, we protect them from being like taken over
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by anybody who would want to take Canada. We are
their protectors. We're their big brother to the South. But
when it comes to trade, They've been screwing us for
a long time. So Howard Lutnick sits down and he
gives the truth about what happened because the word that
we got, and I'm sure Linda got this, Ethan, Sam
certainly heard this on my show. I'm sure Sean knows
this very well. The word was the deal was done.
(08:26):
We have a trade deal with Canada. All good. Nothing
to see here. Have a nice day. But that's not
really the case because at the last minute, suddenly Carney's
calling President Xi in China. Maybe he wanted help from
Daddy in China. I don't know. But Lutnick breaks it down.
He tells the truth about what happened. And he lays
all the responsibility on the shoulders of Carney.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
What happened was we negotiated. Canadians approached us and said,
come on, let's try to get an interim deal done.
So we worked, you know, before we start doing the
big USMCA sort of big, big thing. And we sat
with them six weeks of negotiations and we hammered out
a deal. Mark Carney starts talking to the president.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Calls him multiple times.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I'm in the room with the president and.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
They reach agreement.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And the president, like, truth's out.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
We have a deal. Have you guys heard this? The
president truth's out. We have a deal. They came to terms.
It was done. All good. Then this happened.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
He had a.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Deal because he talked to Mark Carney, right? And then
we were just putting the finer points on it. And
Friday at four o'clock, for example, my Canadian counterparts, they
called me and said, we'd.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Like heavy trucks. And I said, no, no, listen, listen.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
It's Friday at four o'clock.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
We're signing it at like six or seven.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
There's no new.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Topic that you're coming up with now. And I said
to him, are you trying to blow this up? And
the answer was, and I quote, I'm not allowed to
say that. They decided for political reasons, domestic. domestic Canada
they'd rather fight with Donald Trump even if it's bad
for the economy of Canada for their political ambitions to
(10:09):
get certain elections. Now remember, Quebec has, the sovereign party
was in the lead. So that's why they came up
with this French nonsense. You think the American side talked
about how people speak in Quebec?
Speaker 7 (10:22):
We do have a deal with France. We have a
deal with Italy.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We have a deal with Germany.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
We don't care about their language. None of that was true.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Alberta's got an independence vote.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
This is the Canadian Liberal Party using their economy to
get themselves elected, even if they're selling their own citizens
down the river. It's sad and disappointing, but that's just
the way it is.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
He explained it well. Let me add a little bit
to that, a little context, a little color to that,
if I can. Carney won. Polyev was in the lead,
who's the more conservative guy. Carney won because he started
a fight about how Donald Trump wants Alberta, about how
Donald Trump is calling Canada, called Trudeau the governor of Canada,
the 51st state. Now, I'm not saying the president was
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right or wrong in doing that. He's the trolling chief.
This guy will troll anybody, and he's not going to
stop even if I say so. It doesn't matter. But
this is what Carney learned in that election cycle. I
can win even if I suck, and he does. I
can win over the guy who doesn't suck, Poliev, and
Poliev doesn't suck. I can win if I run against
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Donald Trump. I can win if I say Poliev is
Donald Trump. Because keep in mind, this guy Poliev was
killing it. And he was saying the right things, doing
the right things, making the Canadian people feel nationalistic about
their country again. And he wanted to work hand in
hand with the United States of America, which is, by
the way, hello, very, very smart to do. So really
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laid out by Lutnik there. We now know, because remember
the president doesn't truth it out unless it's done. So
he thought it was done. Two hours later, maybe three
hours later, they were going to sign the paperwork and
probably take a group photo. And then Carney, somebody got
in Carney's ear and said, you know, if you fight
with Trump, any elections we have coming up, you can
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go against Trump and those who are going and voting,
those who just don't feel good about him trying to say,
you don't have any sovereignty in Canada or you're the
51st state or whatever. They will vote against that idea,
even if they really agree with the conservative policies of
it all. I hope that makes sense. When we come back,
I've got a couple of soundbites from President Trump where
he talks about the trade issues with Canada, and I
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want to hear from you. Should we treat Canada like
an equal? I don't think so. Not economically. Canada's not
an equal. I mean, people are equal one-to-one, but economically speaking, population-wise,
we're not, and we protect them. We are the ones
that should benefit from the deal much more than they do,
and so far they've been making sure they benefit more
than we do. Your thoughts on this? 800-941-SHAWN, 1-800- 941-7326.
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Joe Paggs in for Sean Hannity. Stay here.
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Entertaining Americans coast to coast.
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Sean Hannity is on right now.
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1-800-941-SHAWN, 800-941-7326. Joe Pags in for Sean Hannity today. Bottom
of the hour, Evita Campos, not Campos, that's her mom,
Evita Duffy Alfonso. Her mom is, of course, Rachel Campos Duffy.
Her dad is Sean Duffy, the Secretary of Transportation. Great
conversation with this young mother who's building a family. Her
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husband's actually running for U.S. Representative in Wisconsin, so go
and check him out. I think it's Michael Alfonso. Um,
but just a great young conservative. And I wanted to
hear about this, this, this tour, the great American tour
that she and her family are taking around the country
and also get a young person's perspective. She was the
person that made a really big noise at the university
of Chicago by saying, I'm going to be conservative. I'm
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not going to have people tell me which way to go.
So make sure you stick around for that. A fun
interview at the bottom of the hour, right now talking
about Canada and how it's been treating us very unfairly
for a long time. Don't take my word for it.
Listen to the president.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Canada's been ripping off the United States for many, many years,
for decades, many decades. We lost anywhere from $ 60 to
$ 100 billion with Canada. We traditionally lose that for the
last 15 years. It's a very unfair deal. They charge
tremendous tariffs.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
To our farmers.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
They take advantage of our farmers. They take advantage of
our tourists. They take advantage of airlines. something that nobody
brought up. I'll bring it up right now. They think
it's so sensitive, but I don't find it sensitive. Canada
has all of its major banks here, and we're their
biggest source of income, far bigger than they are in Canada.
They basically don't allow banks of America to be in Canada.
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That's sort of emblematic of the way they treat us.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Think of it.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
So they have their banks here, Bank of Canada, all
of their big banks, big, beautiful banks. I think they
have six or seven major banks here We don't have
our banks there. You know why?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
They don't allow it.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Big, beautiful banks. Oh, Canada, why not treat us right?
Why not treat us right? Xi is not going to
protect you if somebody were to come and invade. He's
not going to say, let me send some troops from China.
It's a long way away. We're right here. You are protected.
You are safe because of the United States. You might
as well be fair about it. And the president continues,
one would assume that Trade would be really, really rough
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with other countries, not with Canada.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
People are surprised when I say it. Like, I have
China coming here. A lot of people say, who's the
toughest one to deal with?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Is it China, sir? Is it China?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Is it Vietnam? I said, no, actually, it's Canada. Canada
has felt emboldened. They had presidents that didn't know what
was happening. Not only the last one, all of them.
I mean, they just were taken into... Our country's been
taken advantage of by... Canada, they took 20% of our
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car industry out. I don't blame them for that, but
if we would have had a president that knew what
was happening, nobody would have left. Now they're all coming back.
All they would have had to do is charge tariffs,
and they would have put tariffs on it. If you
build a car in Canada, you have to pay a 25% tariff.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I mean, that's such a salient point that I want
to make sure before we hit the break that I
fill you in on. People complain about tariffs as if
they're somehow bad. They're not. If you don't want tariffs
on the stuff, make the stuff here. I'll never forget.
I'm a Chevy guy. I love Chevys, Corvettes, Camaros. I've
always been a GMC Chevy guy, just a General Motors guy,
not a Ford guy. If you're a Ford guy or whatever,
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Mustangs are cool cars, I wouldn't have one. Having said that,
I was always surprised they were making the Camaro in Canada.
I'm like, what? It's a great American sports car. What
are you talking about? They were making the Targa engines,
the small block Chevys, in Mexico. I'm like, what? Why
are you doing that? So when you add a tariff
to something coming in from Mexico or add a tariff,
something coming in from Canada, it now tells General Motors, Ford, Chrysler, whomever,
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if you make it here, you're not going to have
to worry about that added percentage of a fee or
a tax or a tariff. If you make it here,
you employ American workers and we're not going to charge
you that extra something, something. But why would we employ
a bunch of Canadians or employ a bunch of Mexicans
and then say, well, we're not really worried about it
that much here on this side of the border. This
is a very, very smart move. Carney is not going
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to win. The president's going to win. He's a great negotiator.
But wouldn't you like to have all the manufacturing back here?
And there's a real big push right now from this
administration to make that happen. When we come back, it's
going to be Evita Duffy. You're going to like this
conversation a lot. She's a young conservative mom, and she
also is the daughter of two people you like. Keep
it here.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Exposing government waste and abuse of your liberties every day.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Sean Hannity is on right now. Joe Pag's in for
Sean Hannity. I really love the family. I love the
Duffy family. I've had Rachel compost Duffy on several times.
We're friends. I've had Sean Duffy on the Secretary of Transportation.
several times. We're friends. I love these guys, but I
don't know all of their children. They've got like nine
kids or something. So here is one of them. It's
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Evita Duffy. Evita, how are you? Nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Hey, good.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
By the way, does that ever get old?
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Being the daughter of Sean and Rachel?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
No, no, no, no, not at all. Your name is Evita.
So clearly everybody comes up and says, don't cry for me, Argentina.
They always do that, right?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Some do, but actually, you know, a lot of people
don't even know what it is.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Oh, stop it.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
It's true. It's a specific type of person that has
seen it, and not many have.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Clearly, you're named for either the movie. I'm guessing that
I want you to be like Evita Peron. I mean,
she wasn't a very great person, but were you named
for the movie, for the play, for all of that?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
You know what? I was named Evita because my mom
loves Madonna, and Madonna played Evita in the movie.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Madonna was not a great singer in the 80s. When
she did Evita, this woman became a great singer. She
did such a great job in that movie. I don't
blame your mom for doing that. My wife loves that
movie as well and loved Madonna in that movie. Have
you ever met Madonna?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
No, I've never met Madonna.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And you know what?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I think my mom has soured on her a little
bit over the years. You know, she's a lot cooler
back in the 80s than she is today.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I don't blame your mom for souring on Madonna. She
has gone a little nuts about blowing up the White
House and so on. All right. So your dad's a
transportation secretary. You, of course, an accomplished podcaster who's now
being your stay-at-home mom, which is awesome. Did you want
to plug your husband and the race that he's in?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Yeah, so my husband, Michael Alfonso, he's running for Congress
in Wisconsin's 7th Congressional District. It's where we're from. It's
where my husband and I met in 8th grade. And
if he wins in November, he won his primary. If
he wins in November against the Democrats, he will be
the youngest member of Congress and the first member of
Congress born this century. He's a 2000s baby.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Man, I am old. There's a guy born in 2000
or later that he's going to run for Congress and
hopefully win. I am getting very old.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, good.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Now, is he Italian? Is it Alfonso? Is that what
it is?
Speaker 6 (20:31):
He's actually Cuban, and that's part of why Michael has
been really inspired to run. He is the grandchild of
Cuban refugees, and he is deeply concerned about America, this
homeland of ours of prosperity and freedom, turning into exactly
what his grandparents fled.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
How does a Cuban guy end up in Wisconsin? What
is that?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
It's so funny. So Michael's grandfather, he actually hated the heat.
And the first thing he did when he came to
the land of prosperity, he came to the Midwest. He
actually first moved to Chicago as he bought an air conditioner.
And Michael is like that too. Michael, Michael is a
Wisconsin boy through and through because he hates the heat.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Well, I got to tell you, I grew up in
South Florida from New York originally, but I grew up
in South Florida and we of course had little, little Havana.
We had plenty of Cubans. I worked with Cubans. I mean,
Just wonderful people who finally realized in the last couple
of elections they're very conservative people. And I think for
a long time they were indoctrinated with this garbage that
you probably faced in college. We'll talk about it in
a second. But they were indoctrinated with this garbage that, well,
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you're Hispanic or you're Latino, so you therefore must be
somebody who votes blue or somebody who votes Democrat. Did
his grandfather find that? And as Michael was growing up,
did he find, did you find with your mother being
Hispanic that you were told you must be, because you're
a Latina, you must be a left-leaning person, you must
be a blue person?
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Yeah, well, I think that's the experience of the vast
majority of Hispanics. Democrats feel like they They own you. Right.
They think that they are entitled to your vote and
your support. But, you know, Hispanics are very traditional at
our core. I think, you know, most of us, you know,
we were family oriented. A lot of times we fled
countries where collectivism has literally destroyed the homeland. And so
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we are we are very I think we're actually much
more in line with with conservatism and the Republican Party
than we are the radical left in many ways.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Well, I mean, clearly, and again, they woke up and
I think probably the Republican Party wasted too much time
and didn't go and talk to black Americans and go
and talk to Hispanic Americans. They just assumed that they
were going to be blue voters. But I mean, again,
you can go through those communities. They're very much like me.
I grew up Italian and Catholic. Of course, we're conservative.
Of course, we're anti-abortion. Of course, we're for the family unit.
Of course, you know, we believe in Jesus as our savior.
(22:45):
So was there something when you went to college and
I'm stunned that you're in your mid-20s now, you look
like you're about 19. When you went to college, was
it just a bombardment constantly that you have to be
for things like socialism, the DSA, the right is bad,
conservatives are bad, Republicans are evil somehow? What was it
when you got there? Did you take a pounding about
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all that stuff?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Yes, I did. Actually, I very publicly and famously I did.
So when I first got into campus, my dad at
the time was a member of Congress, but it was
in Chicago and I was from Wisconsin. So I didn't
necessarily people didn't necessarily know who I was. My parents,
I kind of kept a low political profile. But I
joined the Institute of Politics at UChicago, which was at
the time run by David Axelrod, Obama's former chief advisor.
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And David Axelrod had this little project at the Institute
of Politics where he had all these students pose with
a whiteboard. and it said, I vote because, and you
would write on the whiteboard why you wanted to vote,
and they would post these images of the students on
their social media, sort of to say, here's all these
reasons that you Chicago students want to vote. Some of
them said, I vote because children shouldn't be put in cages.
(23:51):
This was at the time when the Democrats were really
freaked out about Trump and lying and saying you would
using children. Some said, I believe healthcare is a human right.
I wrote, I vote because the coronavirus won't destroy America,
but socialism will. And this was like 2020. We hadn't
even gone into lockdown yet. So the post went viral.
(24:12):
My classmates freaked out. They said, I didn't deserve to
be on campus. They said that they would personally stop
me from voting. They compared me to animals and said
I was ugly. They attacked my family. They attacked me
for everything until I eventually got a death threat from
one of my classmates. The Chicago police had to get involved.
And David Axelrod himself, again, Obama's former chief advisor, had
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to come out with a statement and say, please stop
harassing this girl. It's having a chilling effect on free
speech at our school.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
That's how bad it got.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Well, Evita, tell my audience again, what did your board say?
Speaker 6 (24:48):
The coronavirus won't destroy America, but socialism will.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
And you were attacked and got death threats over that?
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Viciously, yes.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
It's not like you said Democrats should die or Obama's
a piece of garbage. You simply said what most of
us believe. I mean, let's be honest. Most Americans just
get in line with what you said. Maybe not at UChicago, obviously.
Why do you decide to go to UChicago? You know
it's a liberal school. You know that it's run by
David Axelrod. He's got a big voice there. Why go there?
Did you want to prove a point? Did you think, well,
(25:18):
they really do have, they offer something that I want?
in my education? Why is that the choice?
Speaker 6 (25:23):
I was honored to get into UChicago. You know, for
a Midwesterner, I mean, UChicago is called the Harvard of
the Midwest. It has an amazing name brand. It's supposed
to be a very, very good school. And it also
has this thing called the Chicago Principles, which dozens of
schools across the country and Canada have adopted themselves. It
essentially says, this school is not about safe spaces. We
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believe in free expression and in public discourse. And we
want our school to be committed to free inquiry, really.
And that's why I chose it. I said, well, here's
an elite institution, but it actually is committed to free expression,
unlike Harvard or Yale or Dartmouth or some of these
other name brand schools. And when I got there, the school,
(26:06):
the administration was allegedly committed to this, but the student
body was actually deeply hostile to intellectual diversity. And that
became the real problem for me But I would never
take back going there. I would say this all the
time because I came as a strong conservative student. Others
maybe would fall by the wayside. But I felt that
I became a stronger, better conservative, having my ideas constantly challenged.
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And I did a lot of good for the school.
I started a conservative newspaper called The Chicago Thinker. Our
content was shared by The Wall Street Journal, by Tucker Carlson,
by tons of different conservative outlets. We did a lot
of really great work there.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
It is a Vita Duffy. Where can people go? Where's
the best way to follow you? Instagram X. What is it?
Speaker 6 (26:50):
So a Vita Duffy underscore one is my, my account
and my Instagram account. You can follow me there. I
put out lots of pieces freelance at the federalist.com and
at foxnews.com, even though I don't, don't necessarily work for
either of them. I just kind of do a little
freelance work.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
So do we follow each other on Instagram? I hope so.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
I don't know if we do, but I'm going to
give you a follow for sure.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Well, how many do you have? How many Instagram followers?
Speaker 6 (27:11):
I think I have like 130,000.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I am kicking your ass, Evita. I'm just going to
put it out there. I've got 585,000. So let's follow
each other and share stuff. I saw your sister Paloma
in some video that for some reason CNN thought was
proving a point. Look how smart this young woman is
telling her father the way it is. But it seemed
to be a nice discussion between your dad, and I'm
guessing you probably had these discussions too, and your sister.
(27:37):
And your sister was saying, yes, I'm conservative. Yes, I
have these beliefs. Shouldn't I go and be exposed to
the other side? Was that sort of your decision when
you went to college as well? Let me go and
be exposed to the other side. And again, maybe I can,
I can affect some change on campus, which clearly you did.
Was the same sort of thing going on in your head?
Speaker 6 (27:53):
No, I didn't go to college to be a cultural
warrior or like a beacon of conservatism.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
They forced it on you, though, didn't they? They forced
it on you.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Yeah, it kind of fell onto me, but I didn't
intend to do that. But I think the reason my
dad had that conversation with Paloma is because of the
traumatic experience that I had. You know, my parents afterwards.
What happened to me said, you know, we don't want
to pay for schools that are going to, you know,
essentially indoctrinate my children. And and we know are contrary
to our own values, schools that hate us. And so
(28:22):
they wanted to have a sincere conversation about is this
is this education worth paying for? And that's ultimately the
kind of back and forth that went that we that
they had. And Paloma did get waitlisted at Harvard and
she got into a lot of other really good schools,
including UChicago, which she ultimately decided to go to. It
was just my alma mater.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Well, you guys grew up in a house where obviously
the conservative values are ingrained. Now that you're an adult,
you could have said, yes, I grew up that way,
but I don't agree with that. I'm going to go
this way. You didn't. You decided, you know what, that's
a pretty good upbringing, and they were right in what
it is that I learned, and then I'll expand my
family with the same sort of value system. So that's great.
You guys going to college like that, and I would
think that my children, I've got five daughters, I would
(29:02):
think that they would go to college in the same
sort of thing. I know how I grew up. The
values make sense to me. Whatever they try to push
on me, I'll learn about it, and I'll get that
side of it. but it's not going to change me. Unfortunately,
everybody isn't raised by your parents. Everybody isn't raised by
my wife and me. So some children, when they go
to college, are very, very sponge-like. And they're going to
be hit at 17, 18, 19 years old with all
(29:23):
of this stuff about how wrong your upbringing is, about
how your parents have been wrong the entire time, that
Trump is a fascist and so on. What advice do
you have for people that are in the same position
that you and your family have been in when you
go to a college and then you get bombarded with
this lefty stuff? Because it does affect a lot of people.
You know this. You probably saw that. How do you
stop that from changing who they are as a person?
(29:44):
If there's any advice you can give, what would that be?
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Well, the conclusion that my parents came to, and I
think it's the correct one, is to personally assess your child.
And not every kid from the same family is the same.
Does my child specifically have the character and the conviction
to withstand what what they're going to be bombarded with
when they get to one of these schools. And some
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kids can handle it and some kids can't. And it
really is up to a parent to know their kid
and know if they're able to handle that. And if
you can send your kid to a school like Harvard
or UChicago, and you think they can handle it, that's
actually a really net positive on our culture. You know,
a lot of people say they want to opt out
of Harvard. opt out of Stanford or of Dartmouth or whatever,
(30:28):
I say we need to take those schools back for
the same reason that I don't want to cede our
government and I don't want to cede our media to
the left. I don't want to cede our elite institutions
to the left as well. I want to take those
schools back. That starts with sending good students there, but
also I think using the power of the federal purse
to pressure them to do what's right. If you're going
(30:48):
to have fake fields of study inspired by Marxism, like
post-colonial studies and critical race theory and fat studies and
queer studies, then you are entitled to federal money.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
That entire interview with Evita Duffy Alfonso, that's her full name,
will be on my program tomorrow for a free speech
Friday there. Also, we'll have it up on YouTube in
the next coming days. Go to JoePags.com slash YouTube. JoePags.com
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(32:32):
And John, I don't have a ton of time, but
you're in Kansas. You've got some comments on Lindsey Clancy.
A lot happened in that case today. Got about a
minute for you.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
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Speaker 7 (32:41):
Thank you very much, Joe. Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
You bet.
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My question is this. Did she go back to work
Was she in the medical field and back at work
during this time period? Because if she's a nurse, then
obviously there has to be some competency there to do
her job. And if that's the case, I got a
feeling that they ought to attack that.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
John, I appreciate the call out of Kansas. Thanks for
waiting so long. Linda, do you know she was still
an active working nurse? Yes, she was.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
She was a labor and delivery nurse. And I don't
know if she whittled down her hours, but I do
know that she was a working nurse. So competency would
have to be there in order for her to be
able to do such a job, I would think.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Those who missed any of it earlier, you had a
big dust up in the courtroom. You had a note
that was passed to the judge from the jury. The
jury's still deadlocked. They are not. They're not going to
call a mistrial. This judge appears as though he wants
a solution to this case. And I think all of
humanity wants a solution to this case. They should have
sequestered this jury from day one. You should not have
access from these pink shirt-wearing idiots going and bothering jurors
(33:44):
as they come out. We now understand there's one juror
that's the holdout. We don't know what the holdout, which way,
either not guilty or guilty. We don't know. And we're
not going to know. They sent the jury home for today.
Hopefully they'll get back at it tomorrow and maybe come
to a conclusion tomorrow. Because at the end of the day,
you've got three dead kids. And if she somehow gets
off on this, then there will be no justice for
those children. We need to get some sort of a resolution.
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And I'm stunned, startled, and dismayed that so many people
are somehow on her side. You can be on her
side and feel for her as a human being. But
to be on her side and act like, well, it's
okay that she killed her three kids because of this
medication or this psychosis doesn't make sense. Got to get
out of here. Sean, thank you very much. Come back
and you'll hear Sean again very soon. Linda, thank you
for taking the time and having me on. Ethan, thank you. Sam, thanks.
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We'll see you later. Take care.
Thank you.
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It's 1-800-941-SEAN, 1-800-941-7326, along with Linda and Ethan and my daughter, Sam.
We're getting it done today. Bottom of the hour, a
fun interview with Evita Duffy. Now, Evita Duffy Alfonso is
her full name. She's married now. It's a fun interview
because she's a young conservative. She's the daughter of Rachel
(01:54):
Compost Duffy and Sean Duffy. He's the secretary of transportation. She,
of course, is a great host over on Fox. But
Evita also had a great podcast herself, decided to be
a stay-at-home mom. But they're doing something, it's called the
Great American, Sam, what is it called? The Great American Trip?
The Great American Tour? You can go and check that
out over on YouTube. The entire Duffy family is like
(02:15):
loading up on a bus or something and going around
the country. It's actually pretty fun. We have a great
conversation with her. The Clancy case, they've sent the jury
home again today. They are still not able to come
to a verdict. The judge looks like he wants a verdict.
He's not playing around. He interviewed each of them individually.
It looks like there's one juror that's holding out. We're
not sure which way that juror is going. No idea
(02:36):
which way the other 11 are going. And I talked
to Greg Jarrett about this right when this news broke
about an hour and a half ago. And what Greg
said was, it looks like the defense attorney is trying
to suggest that the one holdout is somebody who wants
to find her guilty. Everybody else wants to find her
not guilty. We don't know that. I think that's just
this person putting this into the ether. But there is
(02:58):
the possibility of removing the one juror that will not decide.
But you can only do that if they're not following
the rules and the instructions. We don't know if that
juror is saying, listen, I'm following the rules and the instructions.
I really believe this way. Or if they're fingers in
the ears and they're going, no, no, no, no, no, no,
we're not listening to you. So we'll find out. If
anything else breaks in this hour, we'll make sure we
bring it to you. Again, if he's at the bottom
(03:19):
of the hour, I want to make fun of Canada
a little bit. A, coming up this half hour as well.
But nothing is more important on the agenda today for me.
Then Linda McLaughlin saved a dog, I understand. Linda, is
this true? You saved a dog's life? What the hell happened?
Speaker 5 (03:34):
So last night I was on the highway.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And I was going to my son's back-to-school night, and
I basically.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Was driving.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
It was very, very busy. It had just gone off
the air. I was on this really busy highway in
rush hour, and I saw something white coming in, like
opposing oncoming traffic, and I'm like, what the hell is that?
And then I looked over and I was like, oh,
my God, it's a dog. And no one is stopping.
Everyone's doing 70 miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
So I slow down to about 40. Then I come
to a complete stop. I take over the right lane.
I put my flashers on. I jump out of my car.
I run after the dog. This other car comes up
behind me and manages to kind of curtail the shoulder.
So he's kind of like stuck. And I'm like, tell him, baby,
come to me. Come to me, please, because I love animals.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
And he runs to me and I said, come on,
get my car, get my car. And this woman gets
out to help me. And it ends up being my mother.
Like totally randomly. It's my mom behind me on the highway.
And she goes, she goes.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I swear to God.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
She said, I saw this car pull over and I'm thinking, oh,
thank God somebody's stopping. I'll stop too. And I'll help.
And she goes, and then I see this woman running
down the highway. I'm like, look at this woman. She's
running for the dog. And then I go, oh my God,
that's my kid. And I started laughing. So then she
followed me because I'm on my way to the school
for the parent teacher meeting. And long story short, I
transferred the dog into her car. We got him to
the police station and his very, very happy owners We're
(04:55):
so grateful, and we were able to match him back
up with his family and get him home. So I
was really happy. He had blood on his head, and
he was really dirty.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Wow, but he's going to be okay.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
He's fine. His name is Rex. He's a three-year-old, and
he's a beautiful white. I mean, my God, he had
these gorgeous light blue husky eyes, just a stunning dog.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
But yeah, funny story, really random.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, obviously, your mom raised you right, but I just
got to tell you, I needed to hear the story
because you say dog like my mom says dog.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I love your mother.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
You know what I mean? Sam, you know what I mean?
Grandma says dog. And we make fun of it every time,
but it's so endearing.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
What you mean is grandma says it right. That's what
you meant.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Oh, exactly right. I used to say dog, but I
moved to Florida when I was seven, so I lost
the accent. I got the radio Midwestern nothing now, unless
I'm mad, then you'll hear the New York come out.
What a great story. Now, I've got a couple of dogs.
Sam has a couple of dogs. We love our dogs
in the PAGS houses. And I just think that's awesome.
We probably would have done the same thing. I know
Sam would have. Me, I'm a little heavy on the
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right foot in the car, so maybe I would have.
But Sam, without a doubt, would have stopped in. But
Sam probably would not have found the owners if it's
a beautiful dog. she probably would have said, you know,
this dog would get along with my dogs.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Oh, whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
No, I would read the collar.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I would call them, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Oh, you would call them? Don't start.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Well, that was the problem. The dog didn't have anything.
The dog didn't have, it was completely no collar, no tags,
no nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
How did you find the owners?
Speaker 5 (06:13):
We got to the police station. We called ahead and
we went to the police station. If you can believe it,
this is not the first time I've done this. So
when I got to the police station, I'm like, what
is it with you? I'm like, hi, how are you?
Here I am again. And anyway, so I had the
dog and the the family had actually called the police
station and said, has anybody called in a dog? And
they said, actually, we have a woman here sitting with
this beautiful dog in her back seat. And they're like,
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that's our dog. And as soon as they got there,
the dog ran to the owners. It was really nice.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
The dog just got away from the yard? I mean,
what happened?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I honestly don't know. And the woman was so hysterical
that my mother could not even ask her. She was
just so happy to see the dog and was like,
oh my God. I mean, the dog was only three.
And I think it's probably like, you know, it was
so beautiful and so happy. And we were just kind
of like, okay. And she's like, I want to give
you that. I said, I don't want anything. I'm just
glad the dog is safe. Have a nice night. Please
keep your dog on a leash so I don't have
to stop on the highway again. See you later.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
What a great story. I love it. Linda, that's awesome. Uh,
we've got to make fun of Canada a little bit.
I love Canada. Those who are listening in Canada, I
know that you listened to Sean Hannity show. I know
that you listened to his podcast. Uh, I'm all, I'm,
I don't know why, but I'm moving up the charts
in Canada, too, which is kind of dumb. Probably because
I keep on going, oh, Canada, on my show, and
I think they get angry at me. But we've been
(07:21):
to Canada several times. We lived in Michigan seven or
eight years. We lived in New York, upstate New York,
for a long time. And we would go through Canada
to go between Michigan and New York. It's a great place.
We've had breakfast there. We've spent a little bit of
time there. They're great people. I just think you keep
electing idiots. And the problem is we're getting the lie
from Carney, the sort of Justin Trudeau 2.0. We're getting
(07:42):
the word from him that he wants America to play
seriously now. Stop playing games. Let's get serious. Well, I wondered,
is there something to why the talks broke down? The
trade talks between Canada and us, we are 13 times
the economy candidates, 13 times. They need us way more
than we need them. Plus, I don't know if anybody
told them, we protect them from being like taken over
(08:05):
by anybody who would want to take Canada. We are
their protectors. We're their big brother to the South. But
when it comes to trade, They've been screwing us for
a long time. So Howard Lutnick sits down and he
gives the truth about what happened because the word that
we got, and I'm sure Linda got this, Ethan, Sam
certainly heard this on my show. I'm sure Sean knows
this very well. The word was the deal was done.
(08:26):
We have a trade deal with Canada. All good. Nothing
to see here. Have a nice day. But that's not
really the case because at the last minute, suddenly Carney's
calling President Xi in China. Maybe he wanted help from
Daddy in China. I don't know. But Lutnick breaks it down.
He tells the truth about what happened. And he lays
all the responsibility on the shoulders of Carney.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
What happened was we negotiated. Canadians approached us and said,
come on, let's try to get an interim deal done.
So we worked, you know, before we start doing the
big USMCA sort of big, big thing. And we sat
with them six weeks of negotiations and we hammered out
a deal. Mark Carney starts talking to the president.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Calls him multiple times.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I'm in the room with the president and.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
They reach agreement.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And the president, like, truth's out.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
We have a deal. Have you guys heard this? The
president truth's out. We have a deal. They came to terms.
It was done. All good. Then this happened.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
He had a.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Deal because he talked to Mark Carney, right? And then
we were just putting the finer points on it. And
Friday at four o'clock, for example, my Canadian counterparts, they
called me and said, we'd.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Like heavy trucks. And I said, no, no, listen, listen.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
It's Friday at four o'clock.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
We're signing it at like six or seven.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
There's no new.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Topic that you're coming up with now. And I said
to him, are you trying to blow this up? And
the answer was, and I quote, I'm not allowed to
say that. They decided for political reasons, domestic. domestic Canada
they'd rather fight with Donald Trump even if it's bad
for the economy of Canada for their political ambitions to
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get certain elections. Now remember, Quebec has, the sovereign party
was in the lead. So that's why they came up
with this French nonsense. You think the American side talked
about how people speak in Quebec?
Speaker 7 (10:22):
We do have a deal with France. We have a
deal with Italy.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We have a deal with Germany.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
We don't care about their language. None of that was true.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Alberta's got an independence vote.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
This is the Canadian Liberal Party using their economy to
get themselves elected, even if they're selling their own citizens
down the river. It's sad and disappointing, but that's just
the way it is.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
He explained it well. Let me add a little bit
to that, a little context, a little color to that,
if I can. Carney won. Polyev was in the lead,
who's the more conservative guy. Carney won because he started
a fight about how Donald Trump wants Alberta, about how
Donald Trump is calling Canada, called Trudeau the governor of Canada,
the 51st state. Now, I'm not saying the president was
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right or wrong in doing that. He's the trolling chief.
This guy will troll anybody, and he's not going to
stop even if I say so. It doesn't matter. But
this is what Carney learned in that election cycle. I
can win even if I suck, and he does. I
can win over the guy who doesn't suck, Poliev, and
Poliev doesn't suck. I can win if I run against
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Donald Trump. I can win if I say Poliev is
Donald Trump. Because keep in mind, this guy Poliev was
killing it. And he was saying the right things, doing
the right things, making the Canadian people feel nationalistic about
their country again. And he wanted to work hand in
hand with the United States of America, which is, by
the way, hello, very, very smart to do. So really
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laid out by Lutnik there. We now know, because remember
the president doesn't truth it out unless it's done. So
he thought it was done. Two hours later, maybe three
hours later, they were going to sign the paperwork and
probably take a group photo. And then Carney, somebody got
in Carney's ear and said, you know, if you fight
with Trump, any elections we have coming up, you can
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go against Trump and those who are going and voting,
those who just don't feel good about him trying to say,
you don't have any sovereignty in Canada or you're the
51st state or whatever. They will vote against that idea,
even if they really agree with the conservative policies of
it all. I hope that makes sense. When we come back,
I've got a couple of soundbites from President Trump where
he talks about the trade issues with Canada, and I
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want to hear from you. Should we treat Canada like
an equal? I don't think so. Not economically. Canada's not
an equal. I mean, people are equal one-to-one, but economically speaking, population-wise,
we're not, and we protect them. We are the ones
that should benefit from the deal much more than they do,
and so far they've been making sure they benefit more
than we do. Your thoughts on this? 800-941-SHAWN, 1-800- 941-7326.
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Joe Paggs in for Sean Hannity. Stay here.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Entertaining Americans coast to coast.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Sean Hannity is on right now.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
1-800-941-SHAWN, 800-941-7326. Joe Pags in for Sean Hannity today. Bottom
of the hour, Evita Campos, not Campos, that's her mom,
Evita Duffy Alfonso. Her mom is, of course, Rachel Campos Duffy.
Her dad is Sean Duffy, the Secretary of Transportation. Great
conversation with this young mother who's building a family. Her
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husband's actually running for U.S. Representative in Wisconsin, so go
and check him out. I think it's Michael Alfonso. Um,
but just a great young conservative. And I wanted to
hear about this, this, this tour, the great American tour
that she and her family are taking around the country
and also get a young person's perspective. She was the
person that made a really big noise at the university
of Chicago by saying, I'm going to be conservative. I'm
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not going to have people tell me which way to go.
So make sure you stick around for that. A fun
interview at the bottom of the hour, right now talking
about Canada and how it's been treating us very unfairly
for a long time. Don't take my word for it.
Listen to the president.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Canada's been ripping off the United States for many, many years,
for decades, many decades. We lost anywhere from $ 60 to
$ 100 billion with Canada. We traditionally lose that for the
last 15 years. It's a very unfair deal. They charge
tremendous tariffs.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
To our farmers.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
They take advantage of our farmers. They take advantage of
our tourists. They take advantage of airlines. something that nobody
brought up. I'll bring it up right now. They think
it's so sensitive, but I don't find it sensitive. Canada
has all of its major banks here, and we're their
biggest source of income, far bigger than they are in Canada.
They basically don't allow banks of America to be in Canada.
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That's sort of emblematic of the way they treat us.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Think of it.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
So they have their banks here, Bank of Canada, all
of their big banks, big, beautiful banks. I think they
have six or seven major banks here We don't have
our banks there. You know why?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
They don't allow it.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Big, beautiful banks. Oh, Canada, why not treat us right?
Why not treat us right? Xi is not going to
protect you if somebody were to come and invade. He's
not going to say, let me send some troops from China.
It's a long way away. We're right here. You are protected.
You are safe because of the United States. You might
as well be fair about it. And the president continues,
one would assume that Trade would be really, really rough
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with other countries, not with Canada.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
People are surprised when I say it. Like, I have
China coming here. A lot of people say, who's the
toughest one to deal with?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Is it China, sir? Is it China?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Is it Vietnam? I said, no, actually, it's Canada. Canada
has felt emboldened. They had presidents that didn't know what
was happening. Not only the last one, all of them.
I mean, they just were taken into... Our country's been
taken advantage of by... Canada, they took 20% of our
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car industry out. I don't blame them for that, but
if we would have had a president that knew what
was happening, nobody would have left. Now they're all coming back.
All they would have had to do is charge tariffs,
and they would have put tariffs on it. If you
build a car in Canada, you have to pay a 25% tariff.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I mean, that's such a salient point that I want
to make sure before we hit the break that I
fill you in on. People complain about tariffs as if
they're somehow bad. They're not. If you don't want tariffs
on the stuff, make the stuff here. I'll never forget.
I'm a Chevy guy. I love Chevys, Corvettes, Camaros. I've
always been a GMC Chevy guy, just a General Motors guy,
not a Ford guy. If you're a Ford guy or whatever,
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Mustangs are cool cars, I wouldn't have one. Having said that,
I was always surprised they were making the Camaro in Canada.
I'm like, what? It's a great American sports car. What
are you talking about? They were making the Targa engines,
the small block Chevys, in Mexico. I'm like, what? Why
are you doing that? So when you add a tariff
to something coming in from Mexico or add a tariff,
something coming in from Canada, it now tells General Motors, Ford, Chrysler, whomever,
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if you make it here, you're not going to have
to worry about that added percentage of a fee or
a tax or a tariff. If you make it here,
you employ American workers and we're not going to charge
you that extra something, something. But why would we employ
a bunch of Canadians or employ a bunch of Mexicans
and then say, well, we're not really worried about it
that much here on this side of the border. This
is a very, very smart move. Carney is not going
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to win. The president's going to win. He's a great negotiator.
But wouldn't you like to have all the manufacturing back here?
And there's a real big push right now from this
administration to make that happen. When we come back, it's
going to be Evita Duffy. You're going to like this
conversation a lot. She's a young conservative mom, and she
also is the daughter of two people you like. Keep
it here.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Exposing government waste and abuse of your liberties every day.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Sean Hannity is on right now. Joe Pag's in for
Sean Hannity. I really love the family. I love the
Duffy family. I've had Rachel compost Duffy on several times.
We're friends. I've had Sean Duffy on the Secretary of Transportation.
several times. We're friends. I love these guys, but I
don't know all of their children. They've got like nine
kids or something. So here is one of them. It's
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Evita Duffy. Evita, how are you? Nice to meet you.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Hey, good.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
By the way, does that ever get old?
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Being the daughter of Sean and Rachel?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
No, no, no, no, not at all. Your name is Evita.
So clearly everybody comes up and says, don't cry for me, Argentina.
They always do that, right?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Some do, but actually, you know, a lot of people
don't even know what it is.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Oh, stop it.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
It's true. It's a specific type of person that has
seen it, and not many have.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Clearly, you're named for either the movie. I'm guessing that
I want you to be like Evita Peron. I mean,
she wasn't a very great person, but were you named
for the movie, for the play, for all of that?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
You know what? I was named Evita because my mom
loves Madonna, and Madonna played Evita in the movie.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Madonna was not a great singer in the 80s. When
she did Evita, this woman became a great singer. She
did such a great job in that movie. I don't
blame your mom for doing that. My wife loves that
movie as well and loved Madonna in that movie. Have
you ever met Madonna?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
No, I've never met Madonna.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And you know what?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I think my mom has soured on her a little
bit over the years. You know, she's a lot cooler
back in the 80s than she is today.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
I don't blame your mom for souring on Madonna. She
has gone a little nuts about blowing up the White
House and so on. All right. So your dad's a
transportation secretary. You, of course, an accomplished podcaster who's now
being your stay-at-home mom, which is awesome. Did you want
to plug your husband and the race that he's in?
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Yeah, so my husband, Michael Alfonso, he's running for Congress
in Wisconsin's 7th Congressional District. It's where we're from. It's
where my husband and I met in 8th grade. And
if he wins in November, he won his primary. If
he wins in November against the Democrats, he will be
the youngest member of Congress and the first member of
Congress born this century. He's a 2000s baby.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Man, I am old. There's a guy born in 2000
or later that he's going to run for Congress and
hopefully win. I am getting very old.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, good.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Now, is he Italian? Is it Alfonso? Is that what
it is?
Speaker 6 (20:31):
He's actually Cuban, and that's part of why Michael has
been really inspired to run. He is the grandchild of
Cuban refugees, and he is deeply concerned about America, this
homeland of ours of prosperity and freedom, turning into exactly
what his grandparents fled.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
How does a Cuban guy end up in Wisconsin? What
is that?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
It's so funny. So Michael's grandfather, he actually hated the heat.
And the first thing he did when he came to
the land of prosperity, he came to the Midwest. He
actually first moved to Chicago as he bought an air conditioner.
And Michael is like that too. Michael, Michael is a
Wisconsin boy through and through because he hates the heat.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Well, I got to tell you, I grew up in
South Florida from New York originally, but I grew up
in South Florida and we of course had little, little Havana.
We had plenty of Cubans. I worked with Cubans. I mean,
Just wonderful people who finally realized in the last couple
of elections they're very conservative people. And I think for
a long time they were indoctrinated with this garbage that
you probably faced in college. We'll talk about it in
a second. But they were indoctrinated with this garbage that, well,
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you're Hispanic or you're Latino, so you therefore must be
somebody who votes blue or somebody who votes Democrat. Did
his grandfather find that? And as Michael was growing up,
did he find, did you find with your mother being
Hispanic that you were told you must be, because you're
a Latina, you must be a left-leaning person, you must
be a blue person?
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Yeah, well, I think that's the experience of the vast
majority of Hispanics. Democrats feel like they They own you. Right.
They think that they are entitled to your vote and
your support. But, you know, Hispanics are very traditional at
our core. I think, you know, most of us, you know,
we were family oriented. A lot of times we fled
countries where collectivism has literally destroyed the homeland. And so
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we are we are very I think we're actually much
more in line with with conservatism and the Republican Party
than we are the radical left in many ways.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Well, I mean, clearly, and again, they woke up and
I think probably the Republican Party wasted too much time
and didn't go and talk to black Americans and go
and talk to Hispanic Americans. They just assumed that they
were going to be blue voters. But I mean, again,
you can go through those communities. They're very much like me.
I grew up Italian and Catholic. Of course, we're conservative.
Of course, we're anti-abortion. Of course, we're for the family unit.
Of course, you know, we believe in Jesus as our savior.
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So was there something when you went to college and
I'm stunned that you're in your mid-20s now, you look
like you're about 19. When you went to college, was
it just a bombardment constantly that you have to be
for things like socialism, the DSA, the right is bad,
conservatives are bad, Republicans are evil somehow? What was it
when you got there? Did you take a pounding about
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all that stuff?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Yes, I did. Actually, I very publicly and famously I did.
So when I first got into campus, my dad at
the time was a member of Congress, but it was
in Chicago and I was from Wisconsin. So I didn't
necessarily people didn't necessarily know who I was. My parents,
I kind of kept a low political profile. But I
joined the Institute of Politics at UChicago, which was at
the time run by David Axelrod, Obama's former chief advisor.
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And David Axelrod had this little project at the Institute
of Politics where he had all these students pose with
a whiteboard. and it said, I vote because, and you
would write on the whiteboard why you wanted to vote,
and they would post these images of the students on
their social media, sort of to say, here's all these
reasons that you Chicago students want to vote. Some of
them said, I vote because children shouldn't be put in cages.
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This was at the time when the Democrats were really
freaked out about Trump and lying and saying you would
using children. Some said, I believe healthcare is a human right.
I wrote, I vote because the coronavirus won't destroy America,
but socialism will. And this was like 2020. We hadn't
even gone into lockdown yet. So the post went viral.
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My classmates freaked out. They said, I didn't deserve to
be on campus. They said that they would personally stop
me from voting. They compared me to animals and said
I was ugly. They attacked my family. They attacked me
for everything until I eventually got a death threat from
one of my classmates. The Chicago police had to get involved.
And David Axelrod himself, again, Obama's former chief advisor, had
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to come out with a statement and say, please stop
harassing this girl. It's having a chilling effect on free
speech at our school.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
That's how bad it got.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Well, Evita, tell my audience again, what did your board say?
Speaker 6 (24:48):
The coronavirus won't destroy America, but socialism will.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
And you were attacked and got death threats over that?
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Viciously, yes.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
It's not like you said Democrats should die or Obama's
a piece of garbage. You simply said what most of
us believe. I mean, let's be honest. Most Americans just
get in line with what you said. Maybe not at UChicago, obviously.
Why do you decide to go to UChicago? You know
it's a liberal school. You know that it's run by
David Axelrod. He's got a big voice there. Why go there?
Did you want to prove a point? Did you think, well,
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they really do have, they offer something that I want?
in my education? Why is that the choice?
Speaker 6 (25:23):
I was honored to get into UChicago. You know, for
a Midwesterner, I mean, UChicago is called the Harvard of
the Midwest. It has an amazing name brand. It's supposed
to be a very, very good school. And it also
has this thing called the Chicago Principles, which dozens of
schools across the country and Canada have adopted themselves. It
essentially says, this school is not about safe spaces. We
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believe in free expression and in public discourse. And we
want our school to be committed to free inquiry, really.
And that's why I chose it. I said, well, here's
an elite institution, but it actually is committed to free expression,
unlike Harvard or Yale or Dartmouth or some of these
other name brand schools. And when I got there, the school,
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the administration was allegedly committed to this, but the student
body was actually deeply hostile to intellectual diversity. And that
became the real problem for me But I would never
take back going there. I would say this all the
time because I came as a strong conservative student. Others
maybe would fall by the wayside. But I felt that
I became a stronger, better conservative, having my ideas constantly challenged.
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And I did a lot of good for the school.
I started a conservative newspaper called The Chicago Thinker. Our
content was shared by The Wall Street Journal, by Tucker Carlson,
by tons of different conservative outlets. We did a lot
of really great work there.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
It is a Vita Duffy. Where can people go? Where's
the best way to follow you? Instagram X. What is it?
Speaker 6 (26:50):
So a Vita Duffy underscore one is my, my account
and my Instagram account. You can follow me there. I
put out lots of pieces freelance at the federalist.com and
at foxnews.com, even though I don't, don't necessarily work for
either of them. I just kind of do a little
freelance work.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
So do we follow each other on Instagram? I hope so.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
I don't know if we do, but I'm going to
give you a follow for sure.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Well, how many do you have? How many Instagram followers?
Speaker 6 (27:11):
I think I have like 130,000.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
I am kicking your ass, Evita. I'm just going to
put it out there. I've got 585,000. So let's follow
each other and share stuff. I saw your sister Paloma
in some video that for some reason CNN thought was
proving a point. Look how smart this young woman is
telling her father the way it is. But it seemed
to be a nice discussion between your dad, and I'm
guessing you probably had these discussions too, and your sister.
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And your sister was saying, yes, I'm conservative. Yes, I
have these beliefs. Shouldn't I go and be exposed to
the other side? Was that sort of your decision when
you went to college as well? Let me go and
be exposed to the other side. And again, maybe I can,
I can affect some change on campus, which clearly you did.
Was the same sort of thing going on in your head?
Speaker 6 (27:53):
No, I didn't go to college to be a cultural
warrior or like a beacon of conservatism.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
They forced it on you, though, didn't they? They forced
it on you.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Yeah, it kind of fell onto me, but I didn't
intend to do that. But I think the reason my
dad had that conversation with Paloma is because of the
traumatic experience that I had. You know, my parents afterwards.
What happened to me said, you know, we don't want
to pay for schools that are going to, you know,
essentially indoctrinate my children. And and we know are contrary
to our own values, schools that hate us. And so
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they wanted to have a sincere conversation about is this
is this education worth paying for? And that's ultimately the
kind of back and forth that went that we that
they had. And Paloma did get waitlisted at Harvard and
she got into a lot of other really good schools,
including UChicago, which she ultimately decided to go to. It
was just my alma mater.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Well, you guys grew up in a house where obviously
the conservative values are ingrained. Now that you're an adult,
you could have said, yes, I grew up that way,
but I don't agree with that. I'm going to go
this way. You didn't. You decided, you know what, that's
a pretty good upbringing, and they were right in what
it is that I learned, and then I'll expand my
family with the same sort of value system. So that's great.
You guys going to college like that, and I would
think that my children, I've got five daughters, I would
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think that they would go to college in the same
sort of thing. I know how I grew up. The
values make sense to me. Whatever they try to push
on me, I'll learn about it, and I'll get that
side of it. but it's not going to change me. Unfortunately,
everybody isn't raised by your parents. Everybody isn't raised by
my wife and me. So some children, when they go
to college, are very, very sponge-like. And they're going to
be hit at 17, 18, 19 years old with all
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of this stuff about how wrong your upbringing is, about
how your parents have been wrong the entire time, that
Trump is a fascist and so on. What advice do
you have for people that are in the same position
that you and your family have been in when you
go to a college and then you get bombarded with
this lefty stuff? Because it does affect a lot of people.
You know this. You probably saw that. How do you
stop that from changing who they are as a person?
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If there's any advice you can give, what would that be?
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Well, the conclusion that my parents came to, and I
think it's the correct one, is to personally assess your child.
And not every kid from the same family is the same.
Does my child specifically have the character and the conviction
to withstand what what they're going to be bombarded with
when they get to one of these schools. And some
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kids can handle it and some kids can't. And it
really is up to a parent to know their kid
and know if they're able to handle that. And if
you can send your kid to a school like Harvard
or UChicago, and you think they can handle it, that's
actually a really net positive on our culture. You know,
a lot of people say they want to opt out
of Harvard. opt out of Stanford or of Dartmouth or whatever,
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I say we need to take those schools back for
the same reason that I don't want to cede our
government and I don't want to cede our media to
the left. I don't want to cede our elite institutions
to the left as well. I want to take those
schools back. That starts with sending good students there, but
also I think using the power of the federal purse
to pressure them to do what's right. If you're going
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to have fake fields of study inspired by Marxism, like
post-colonial studies and critical race theory and fat studies and
queer studies, then you are entitled to federal money.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
That entire interview with Evita Duffy Alfonso, that's her full name,
will be on my program tomorrow for a free speech
Friday there. Also, we'll have it up on YouTube in
the next coming days. Go to JoePags.com slash YouTube. JoePags.com
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(32:32):
And John, I don't have a ton of time, but
you're in Kansas. You've got some comments on Lindsey Clancy.
A lot happened in that case today. Got about a
minute for you.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Thank you very much, Joe. Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
You bet.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
My question is this. Did she go back to work
Was she in the medical field and back at work
during this time period? Because if she's a nurse, then
obviously there has to be some competency there to do
her job. And if that's the case, I got a
feeling that they ought to attack that.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
John, I appreciate the call out of Kansas. Thanks for
waiting so long. Linda, do you know she was still
an active working nurse? Yes, she was.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
She was a labor and delivery nurse. And I don't
know if she whittled down her hours, but I do
know that she was a working nurse. So competency would
have to be there in order for her to be
able to do such a job, I would think.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Those who missed any of it earlier, you had a
big dust up in the courtroom. You had a note
that was passed to the judge from the jury. The
jury's still deadlocked. They are not. They're not going to
call a mistrial. This judge appears as though he wants
a solution to this case. And I think all of
humanity wants a solution to this case. They should have
sequestered this jury from day one. You should not have
access from these pink shirt-wearing idiots going and bothering jurors
(33:44):
as they come out. We now understand there's one juror
that's the holdout. We don't know what the holdout, which way,
either not guilty or guilty. We don't know. And we're
not going to know. They sent the jury home for today.
Hopefully they'll get back at it tomorrow and maybe come
to a conclusion tomorrow. Because at the end of the day,
you've got three dead kids. And if she somehow gets
off on this, then there will be no justice for
those children. We need to get some sort of a resolution.
(34:05):
And I'm stunned, startled, and dismayed that so many people
are somehow on her side. You can be on her
side and feel for her as a human being. But
to be on her side and act like, well, it's
okay that she killed her three kids because of this
medication or this psychosis doesn't make sense. Got to get
out of here. Sean, thank you very much. Come back
and you'll hear Sean again very soon. Linda, thank you
for taking the time and having me on. Ethan, thank you. Sam, thanks.
(34:26):
We'll see you later. Take care.
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