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It's eight hundred nine to four one. Sean.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
If you want to join us. This was a big
decision yesterday. We had Riley Gaines on Hannity last night.
For women that have had to compete with biological men,
I don't think people fully recognize the the trauma, the
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the difficulty, the challenges that people have had to face.
Title nine was designed to allow women to have the
same opportunities as men when it comes to collegiate sports.
That means the same number of scholarships, et cetera, et cetera.
And it has worked out phenomenally well for young female athletes,
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and it's just been great. And then all of a sudden,
this becomes you know, put this in the category of
an issue that I never really thought i'd be talking
about when I started my radio career just a couple
of years ago. So the US Supreme Court, there's an
article out there, Mary Kate Marshall wrote it. The US
Supreme Court just moved us closer to leveling the playing field.
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It says, in a decision that defends justice and biological reality,
the Court upheld laws in West Virginia and Idaho that
preserve fairness and safety for female athletes by keeping men
out of women's sports. I mean it's hard to imagine
that so many Democrats this year. And this goes back
to I think the most important midterm elections in our lifetime,
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that there are so many Democrats you know, that are
out there still championing the right of men to play
women's sports and the right of men to be in
women's locker rooms. I just I really don't understand the
mindset here. There are biological differences between men and women.
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I look at somebody like, you know, Taller Rico, who's
running for Senate in Texas, and he thinks there's six genders,
and he thinks God is non binary, and he is
championing the right of biological men to have access to abortion.
Maybe I have to go back to school. Maybe I
need to update my classes in biology, because I didn't
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even know that was physically possible. But anyway, the Supreme
Court affirming a very clear meaning of the law common sense,
and the Supreme Court decision affirming the state's government ability
to recognize the inherent, frankly obvious biological differences between men
and women, and in doing so, the justices they threw
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cold water on years of what has been a cultural
political pressure to deny that simple reality. That's simple truth anyway,
So we are trying to get to the bottom of
this anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Here to weigh in on this is Kristin Wagener.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
She's the President's CEO of Alliance Defending Freedom and they
are the nation's top legal group that has been fighting
to protect women's sports and biological reality. And by the way,
she is joined by her client, Mary Kate Marshall, who
wrote the piece I was just reading from, who happened
to be a former collegiate athlete who ran track and
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cross country at Idaho State University. And she and her teammate,
Madison Kenyon, who both received scholarship to run track, and
she had invested years in years, years of effort into
becoming the great runner she was and is, and she
felt the thrill when she finished a race, but that was,
you know, swept away when she and her teammates were
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then displaced by a male athlete. Now, I've had two
of my own children that are into athletics, and you
know the amount of time, effort, energy, sacrifice that goes
into being being an athlete, whatever sport it happens to be.
It's an enormous amount of sacrifice for these young people. Anyway,
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we welcome both of you to the program. Let me
ask you, Mary Kate, because you live this, what was
it like for you? I've talked to Riley Gaines at
length about it, but what was it like for you?
Speaker 8 (05:46):
Well?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Growing up, I was always into sports, and I always
dreamed about being a collegiate athlete and the hours that
goes into the sacrifice, and then getting to the collegiate level,
getting a scholarship, getting an education, and then being told
that I have to compete against the man stepping on
the line, seeing him next to me, knowing that the
race hadn't even started, but the result was already in Like,
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it's deflating and it's.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Unfair, you know, And to do that, I can imagine
it's the flighting When it first happened to you, what
was running through your head?
Speaker 8 (06:21):
You know?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Again, when I started radio a number of decades ago,
I don't think this was an issue that was on
my mind that I'd ever be talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And here we are.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, I never thought this would be an issue. Our
coach sat us down before our first cross country season
that we were going to be competing against him, and
told us he had taken the year off to transition,
so we were unsure, but it was clear as day
after the first race that this was unfair. He beat
out a bunch of women, pushed my teammate off the podium,
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and yeah, we were afraid for what was next if
this was allowed to keep happening.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, let me get your involvement in all of this,
Kristin Wagner, because you really went to the mat for
Mary Kate and for other people as well. Tell us
about your involvement and your involvement in this case and
what this decision yesterday by the Supreme Court means to you.
Speaker 9 (07:17):
We're rejoicing, We're just so delighted. But I do you
think it's important not just for Americans to understand what
happened yesterday, about what it took to get there, because
it's tenacity and it's required by all of us. First
of all, Maddie and MK, they have been courageous. They
aren't just former athletes, They were actual parties to the
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US Supreme Court case yesterday. So we heard a lot
and you'll hear a lot in the media about this
boy who identifies as a girl in the case. But
Maddie and MK were also they were representing the girls
in the case, and yeah, they took a lot of
heat for that for a number of years, six years,
and just grateful for their courage, as well as the
attorneys general of both Idaho and West Virginia who we
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were able to represent these athletes in the case as
well as the states of Idaho and West Virginia. But
that team was led by those courageous attorneys general. So
in terms of what the court's decision was, it basically
told us what we all already knew. Biology is real
and it matters in sports. But it highlighted the fact
that neither the Constitution nor Titlenning require an overhaul of girls' sports,
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and that we are right to make the distinction in
sports on sex. That's the clearest, most objective, workable line.
So it was a great victory. But what it answered
was whether the twenty seven states that have passed laws
to protect women and girls can still do so. So
we're going on to the twenty three states to fix
those as well.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I mean, Kristin, would you define my viewpoint as toxic
masculinity if I just pointed out what I think is
pretty obvious is that generally speaking, and there are exceptions.
That men biologically are stronger than women physically doesn't mean
they're better, doesn't mean they're smarter, doesn't mean women don't
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have incredible gifts that men don't have. It just means
that biologically, men physically, overall, in most cases, not all cases,
tend to be stronger than women.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Is that a fair statement.
Speaker 9 (09:23):
Yes, And it's what the Court actually found, which was thrilling.
I mean, there's overwhelming science to this. Yes, we can
see it with our own eyes, but it also there's
overwhelming scientists that they're stronger, they hit harder, they jump higher,
they run faster, bigger lungs, bigger aerobic capacity, bigger hearts.
I mean, there's just no question that we're made differently,
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and those differences should be celebrated, not erased. The court's decision,
the majority decision was written by Justice Kenna Kind to
tell you, after ten years of working on us, we
filed the first case in twenty seventeen on behalf of
high school athletes. After ten years of working through this,
to finally see Justine Cavanaugh write this decision, you can
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tell he's a father of girls, he's a coach of girls.
And he said the girls matter. And in the case
the male who was an issue in the West Virginia case,
during just a couple of years, he displaced four hundred
and seventy girls fourteen hundred times, took two regional championships
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and a state championship away from those girls, and then
he threatened our client who was on his team with
sexual assault as well in the locker room, referring to
his male genitalia and what he was going to do.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
To the woman.
Speaker 9 (10:37):
Girls don't talk like that. So again, as you led
in your comments, it's not just about sports. It's about privacy,
it's about safety, and it's about celebrating who we were
created to be, male and female.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So what do you think the ramifications of this are.
When Title nine was first created, I actually think it
was a very good thing for women because gave them
an equal playing field. Historically, prior to Title nine, scholarships,
athletic scholarships tend would tend to go to men and
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men's sports. But you see an explosion in terms of
women's sports. I don't care if it's the WNBA or
you know, they even have a women's professional hockey league now,
I mean whatever, sport. It happens to be women are
competing at the highest levels, but they're competing against other women.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
You're absolutely right, and the core in the decision itself
documented those facts. There was a significant amount of briefing
that occurred that went, you know, to talk about what
happened over the last fifty years. Why was Title nine important?
It was important because girls weren't getting equal opportunities. And
it wasn't just on the athletic field. It was you know, curriculum.
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There was discrimination on the basis of what classes you
could enroll in, discrimination on what majors you could specialize
in college. But in terms of the athletic competitions, we
know that, for example, women's sports accounted for only two
percent of annual college athletics spending prior to nineteen seventy two,
and this statue has led to much more significant spending,
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but also significantly more women participating and ninety four percent
of senior female executives they participated in collegiate athletics. Because
it doesn't just produce strong bodies, it also can produce
strong minds, character and virtue.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
All right, quick break more on the Supreme Court decision
as it relates to men biological men playing women's sports.
More with Kristin Wagner on the other side. Also will
continue more with Mary Kate. She wrote this OpEd on
Foxnews dot Com yesterday. This was a big win for
her and much more coming up straight ahead, eight hundred
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right now.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
All right, we'll fallout from yesterday's Supreme Court decision as
it relates to biological men and women's sports. We continue
with Kristen Wagoner and Mary Kate is with us. You
know you wrote Mary Kate and you and Madison rodesope.
It was featured on Foxnews dot Com yesterday. You wrote,
we didn't compete to win participation trophies. We didn't train
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to lose before even stepping at the starting line. So
we're very grateful that now, by supporting states legal authority
to keep men out of women's sports, the Court has
reasserted decades long efforts to promote women's athletics as separate
and apart from men's sports. Let me ask you this question,
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if there are enough trans athletes and they want to
have their own athletic league.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Would you be against that?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I can't really speak to that. I just know what
I know that women competing against women is fair and
men competing against men is fair. So beyond that, I
can't really see.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I bet that you could outrun me by a long
shot because you've been training. You know one thing that
I learned from Riley Gains. Do you know she would
spend about eight hours a day in the pool training
and she did that for years of her life. How
many hours a day as an athlete were you training
before you participated in collegiate sports.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Well, in high school, just getting myself to the level
to get a scholarship, I was doing five hours a
day before school, after school lifting weights, as well as
just the sacrifice of my diet, my lifestyle, and it's special.
It's led me to where I am today. So to
have that challenge by men is deflating.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Would you say ruined your experience something that you had
aspired to your whole life and then this happened.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I would say a part of it, But the friendship
that I made, the career I'm in now, like where
it's led me that can't be taken away by any man.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well, we really appreciate your courage and I'm very grateful
to you also, Kristen Wagener, for what you did and
you know, putting in the time the effort to support
I'm sure a lot of money was spent on this
process of getting to the Supreme Court. It's not easy
to get there, and then to win is even harder.
Congratulations to both of you, and I think this is
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going to help young women many many decades to come,
and you should be very proud of that.
Speaker 9 (16:11):
Well, thank you so much. Thanks for sharing the truth
about biology because it does matter.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I was thinking after Talla Rico said that he's fighting
for the right of biological men to have abortions. I
thought I had to go back to school and take
more biology classes because I don't remember biological men being
capable of having babies. I just don't remember. But I
might be wrong. It's possible, but I'm learning more every day.
He says, there are six genders, I can only name two.
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So we're trying to get answers to all of these
very important questions before the midterm election.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Anyway, appreciate you both. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
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Speaker 1 (17:12):
So if you recall when President Trump was elected in
twenty twenty four and he gave a joint Session speech
before Congress, something happened that night that even shocked me.
I'm not sure what has happened to the heart, the soul,
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the conscience of the Democratic Party, but in many ways
it was kind of like a preview of coming attractions.
They just hate him so much that anyway, during this
joint Session speech, the President recognized the families of Laken
Riley and Joscelyn Nungary and Rachel Morin, and the Democrats
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they didn't stand, they didn't applaud, they didn't.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Do a thing.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And these every one of these families lost loved ones
because of the unvetted Biden, Harris Mayorcis, the illegals, and
they couldn't even recognize families that have suffered so severely.
And I just said at that time, I said, this
is a soulless party. I mean, if you don't care
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about moms and dads and families that lost loved ones,
whose lives will never be the same again.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
There's something really off about you. Now.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
In Congress yesterday, a woman by the name of Jessica Gorman,
she's the mother of Sheridan Gorman, who was murdered by
an illegal immigrant in Chicago before Congress is asking you know,
why did protecting American citizens stop being your first priority?
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And she just eviscerated Congress. Here's what she said.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Hi, my name is Sheridan Gorman.
Speaker 10 (19:01):
I'm sorry. My name is Jessica Gorman. I'm the mother
of Sheridan Grace Gorman. Sheridan was eighteen years old. She
was a freshman at Loyola University Chicago.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
She was beautiful, she was funny, faithful.
Speaker 10 (19:13):
Loving, full of plans to build something with her life.
On March nineteenth, Sheridan went with friends to the Lakefront
in Chicago because they hoped they might see the northern lights.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
She never saw those lights.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
The man accused of murdering my daughters, Jose Medina, an
a legal immigrant from Venezuela who should not have even
been in this country. And even after committing a crime
and having an outstanding warrant, he was left on the
streets of Chicago to murder my innocent American child. But
this story it's not about him. The story is about
my Sheridan. It's about how failed border policies, sanctuary city laws,
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and twisted leaders refused to cooperate with Ice.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
They sent her to her grave.
Speaker 10 (19:52):
It's about a government and politicians that forgot their first priority.
And the question before this committee is painfully simple. When
did protecting our American citizens stop being your first priority?
And even more important, why did protecting our American citizens
stop being your first priority? I want an explanation, I
need one, and I deserve one.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And the last thing she said is she challenged these
members of Congress to explain to her why people here
illegally matter more than American citizens, which they really can't answer.
I want you to listen to this, and then on
the other side of it, I want you to hear
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the heartless comments of squad Member Jayapal and her response
to this mother who is pouring her heart out to
Congress in testimony. Listen now, cold and callous and soulless,
these comments by this congresswoman are so today.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
I bring this back to the buddy bench. I think
Congress needs one.
Speaker 10 (21:02):
I think every governor, every mayor, every sanctuary city official
and politician shifting blame and interest, hiding behind their slogans
and talking points, should have to all sit on one
and I challenge you all to sit down with me,
take my hand, look me in the eye, and then
explain to me, because I just don't understand. Explain why
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people here illegally matter more than your American citizens. Explain
why sanctuary policies matter more than my share.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
In his life. Explain why cooperation with.
Speaker 10 (21:33):
Ice was too much to ask for, but asking our
American parents to bury our children is somehow acceptable. Ask me.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I need you to tell me.
Speaker 11 (21:43):
I want you to imagine that that little girl on
the buddy bench, that innocent college freshman with a heart
full of compassion and a head full of dreams, that
was gunned down by an illegal immigrant.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
I want you to imagine that was your daughter, not mine.
What if she was yours? Would you even hesitate for.
Speaker 10 (22:01):
One second to act to make changes?
Speaker 11 (22:05):
My Sheridan spent her whole life choosing others. Today, I'm
just asking this committee, this committee in our Congress, in
our country, to choose her.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Unfortunately, this hearing is it's the fourth time in this
committee that we've had a hearing on sanctuary cities the
fourth time, and there's many other things that we could
be doing other than this. I would have loved to
have had some hearings on the unconstitutionality of the president's
executive order on eliminating birthright citizenship. This is something that
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the Supreme Court just ruled today in a six' to
three majority was. Unconstitutional and yet this was an executive
order that caused so much fear and trauma across the.
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Speaker 8 (24:50):
OKAY a couple couple quick. Things one is on THIS
ai discussion Regarding, oh it's gonna take away jobs and
things like. That i'm surprised that no one has mentioned
that that's the exact same thing critics were saying of
The Industrial revolution back in the late eighteen, hundreds you.
Know and and of course it didn't take away jobs
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as they were. Predicting it just created a ton of.
Jobs and so it's just you, KNOW ai is eventually
it's going to be the same sort of a.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Thing, LOOK i think there will be some. DISPLACEMENT i
think there will be some.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
CHANGES i think there will be people that might have
to make career.
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WHAT i to, me one of the most interesting Articles
i've read in the last year is the next generation
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electricians they're gonna be, plumbers they're gonna be, contractors they're
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Hands and by the, way And i've seen the future
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in terms OF ai generated home, building et, cetera AND
i follow it very. Closely, however there are certain things
that you cannot THAT ai is not going to be
able to. Fix have you ever needed a plumber at
like three in the. Morning do you ever need an
electrician at three in the.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Morning, YEAH i had my computer fix. It just.
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Kidding, WELL i mean you can Ask. AI i Ask
ai questions every.
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Day. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:30):
No and that's What i'm saying is that ultimately it's
going to actually create a lot of jobs because it
is going to do things that you, know generate more,
sales which means you're going to need more people to
build your, products et, cetera et, cetera and ultimately it
will make more. Jobs the other.
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That's by the, Way you're not the only one saying.
That you, know who else is saying that Is Elon.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
Musk, well, yeah And i'm just saying that the industrial,
evolution you, know back in the eighteen, hundreds they said
the same thing was going to eliminate jobs and you,
know and all that kind of, thing and it actually
created a. Ton the other THING i wanted to, say
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that PEOPLE i wish they could have. SEEN i went
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of allowed to be, there and it was, unbelievable how
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that that couldn't really be. Happening and it was a
man on his knees banging his head bloody against the
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sidewalk to try to get people to maybe give him some.
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feel LIKE i, said people just see the practical results
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Speaker 7 (28:31):
Incredible, right that's gonna wrap things up at.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
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