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June 11, 2026 40 mins

The World Cup is finally here, and the excitement is palpable. The first match is taking place in Mexico City today, with Mexico facing off against South Africa. But it's not just the soccer that's got everyone buzzing - it's the arrival of the French team in Boston, complete with a huge crowd of fans waiting outside their hotel. And if you thought that was impressive, just wait until you hear about the celebrity-studded Knicks game last night, where Taylor Swift was spotted courtside, fueling rumors of a possible wedding.

This episode of the podcast is a wild ride, covering everything from the World Cup to the latest celebrity gossip. The hosts dive into the details of the French team's arrival in Boston, including the fact that they rented out an entire hotel for their stay. They also discuss the upcoming World Cup matches, including the first match in Foxboro, Massachusetts. But it's not all about the soccer - the hosts also dish about the latest celebrity news, including Taylor Swift's possible wedding and her appearance at the Knicks game.

The conversation gets even more juicy as the hosts discuss the latest rumors and theories surrounding Taylor Swift's wedding. From the possibility of a bachelorette party to the idea that she's getting married in Europe, the hosts explore it all. And if you thought you knew everything about the wedding, think again - the hosts share some surprising new information that will keep you guessing.

So, if you want to stay up-to-date on the latest World Cup news and celebrity gossip, tune in to this episode of the podcast. The hosts dish about everything from the French team's arrival in Boston to the latest rumors surrounding Taylor Swift's wedding. With their trademark humor and insight, they'll keep you entertained and informed.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now this morning show in Boston.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Billy and Lisa in the morning.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's just a great start to my day. One. Wait, okay,
let's go to Billy at least the morning show. It's
a Thursday, and today is June eleventh, and today starts
the World Cup. Yes, finally here the first match happening
in Mexico City today. It's Mexico against South Africa.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
God, think about all the years of planning. Oh, but
all all these events around the world, the whole world.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Yeah, and the French team arrived in Boston. Yeah, their
home base for the weeks of the World Cup.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Which is cool.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, four seasons in Boston. How did the fans know?
There are a lot of fans waiting outside the home.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Think they were posting on social media when they landed.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
A few hotels that these athletes stay at.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
They rented out the entire hotel.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Oh, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, it's more than one hundred rooms.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Two hundred and eighty nine room or something, two hundred
and forty rooms, something like that.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Well, I don't know if that hotel has been open
for a long time.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
The restaurants haven't, but right, yeah, but the residences are
obviously Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
And bope.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I know he's the big guy, a friend.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
And I like their uniforms. I like that color that
like blue.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yet Viva la France is very cool.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
At last, he should have went down and greeted them.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
I know that too.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
A piece of cake.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, yeah, so the World Cup is underweight. You know
that fan fest on City Hall Plaza. It's gonna be awesome.
They're going to have food, food trucks, entertainment, large screens
to watch the game. But you have to register to
get in, and the weekend has already sold out, so
you're out of luck for the weekend unless you can
sneak in.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I would have as a kid. Oh yeah, talk about
good news bad news. Yeah, they have a fan fast, budd.
If you didn't register, you're not getting.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
In, giving you a lot of warning.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
But it's open until the twenty seven, so you have
a lot of time, so register for something.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, that's going to.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Be a cool event down on City Hall Plaza. But
I should mention as well, there are watch parties all
around the the and outside the city.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
So I did see we had Sewn and Boston on
last Friday. Yeah he did post I think yesterday a
whole list of the watch parties. Good out. Yeah, he's
all over it.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Sean and Boston from Meet Boston, Billy and Lisa on Nesson.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah he does a good job.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Now, Billy and Jenny on ness At least I put
you in the show.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
The other blonde Yeah, Billy, Jenny Johnson.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, Billy's rounded surrounded by blonde right. Think about that.
You got Lisa, and you got Jenny Johnson, your TV
co host, your wife Michelle, and your ex wife Lisa.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Okay, all blonde.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I want to go through the history of just saying yeah.
So yeah, anyway, happy world.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
I am actually going to the World Cup on Tuesday
when Norway plays Iraq. This up coming to day sixteenth.
Super excited. Norway hasn't been in FIFA World Cup since
nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 7 (02:55):
Huge deal.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
They actually send a chance because they have one of
their world's best players.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
So yeah, I'm super excited. I have a great day.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, that's a great match to go see.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
I saw our story last night I think it was
on Inside Edition or something, and there were three friends
from Argentina. I love this story. They're riding their bikes,
or rather did eleven thousand miles from Argentina to Kansas
City for a World Cup game, and they didn't even
have tickets.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
They got there, they defending.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yes, Oh they did get tickets.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, some organization was aware of the ride or something,
and when they crossed the line and got to Kansas City,
they gave each of them a ticket.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I don't know if I could ride from here to Boston.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, and then they're going on to Los Angeles, but
I think they're gonna fly.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
That's done with the ride. They probably threw their bike
in the river. Done with this, the Child's River. Everything's
in there. Added to the list.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Oh God from the planet Fitness Kiss one of eight studios.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
We're back with and Lisa in the morning and.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Did was a wild night in Madison Square Garden last night.
A lot of people up late last night. History was
made the Knicks coming back from twenty nine points down
in the third quarter and they won the game. Are
you ready for this? They won the game with just
under two seconds left in the game.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
It's over. The greatest come back and.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
End the playoff history.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
But the next pull off and lead at three games
for one.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, it was a wild night, start to finish, pandemonium.
Obviously in Madison Square Garden the nixt Jalen Brunson on
the court just seconds after history was made.

Speaker 8 (04:42):
One word that captures at all is just believe leave
it in the process, shipping away one possess in that time.
It wasn't gonna be one play to get us back.
It wasn't to be one momentum play. But there was
just hitting singles, getting on bass, getting on basis, just
keep shipping away.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
You gotta get on basely you know what you can
get it, get ahead.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Get ahead.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, the Spurs women Yama on the wrong side of
that win last night, and here he was after the game.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Explain it right now.

Speaker 7 (05:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I think it's just I mean, execution, greediness, some sort.
We clearly want the most hungry in the second hulf.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
You know they did. They let it get away.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, I couldn't believe it. I went to bed, like
most people, woke up, saw the score first and was
like what Yeah. Then I watched all the highlights. I mean,
they're calling it the greatest game ever. Yes, this could
be a thirty for thirty special one. Yes, you know,
And it was at home.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
The bad news is they may win it on the road,
the championship because they go to San Antonio.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Now, yeah, Saturday night thirty.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
I love a Saturday game.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
So good for us, and you gotta love Knicks fans.
They were throwing eggs at Wemby. Yeah, they's walking from
Madison Square to the bus.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, they whipped an egg. I think it hit him.
I was watching the video.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
It's like and theywing trash.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah that's not good.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Like I did see that. Emon Schumpert, who was married
to Tianna Taylor. Yeah, celebrated country in the studio. He
came in here and then he was hitting on Lisa
and the d ms. Remember that.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
That was so weird.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
He left the so weird, and it's like, what's going
on right in Lisa's dms?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Are you going?

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Every time I see him, I think about Lisa.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
It's so weird.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
It's like, okay, and a lot of people are calling
it the Wu Tang bump. Let's go because Wu Tang
did the halftime last night.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
So then we moved right down twenty nine points. Yeah,
at halftime, Wu Tang comes out and reignites the city.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, nothing more in New York than Wu Tang.

Speaker 9 (06:51):
No.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
By the way, they sounded great, much better than Cardi B.
I mean Cardi D.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, the nixt came crawling back.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
God, what a game that crazy.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, wool tank us for the children. We teach the children.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Okay, it was celebrity packed. Oh boy, you noticed that
right away before the opening tip, They're like, oh my god,
look who's there. Taylor Swift sitting courtside.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
We knew that yesterday morning going into the game, that
they that she was going to be there was announced.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, she let the Him sisters. Now someone needs to
explain that. What if ever did the Him sisters accomplish?

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Okay, so there's three of them and they are based
in LA. They have opened for Taylor over the years.
They've got their girl group and they're like best friends
with her.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
And they made the t shirts. Stevie Nicks the K
it was okay.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, they were all wearing like Nick's shirts.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was so cute.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Where was the third sister.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I don't know where she was.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Oh, she's out.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
But Alta made the shirts.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
A lot of made the shirts. So one said Stevie Nicks,
one said nickel Back. The K yeah, and then what
the other one say, I.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Don't know kid Nicole kidman.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
And then I know that Mariska Hardigay was there too
from Yeah, she's really good friends with Taylor and she
one of Taylor's cats is named after Muska Hardigay's cart.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Right right, all's right, but you gotta love I love
mask hard Wow. So now Taylor's everywhere, right, I mean,
in the football season, she took some heat, you know,
because she was at the game too much being shown
on cameras. So she's there last night and the broadcast
both the radio guys a I didn't know it was

(08:36):
Taylor Swift and be said, where's she going here? She's
not a next fan anyway.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Here they were with that long pony till Ain't that
her in the blue?

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (08:43):
That literally like that's her.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, sure, she's not here girl.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Oh boy, get out of here.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's I mean, we should play the intro for that,
you know, let's go, let's go to the candid microphone.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh god, wow, where are they working this morning? Exactly?

Speaker 3 (09:08):
But listen, Taylor was chairing the whole game. They were
down by twenty nine points and she was chairing dancing.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
Do you ever.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Notice, no matter what the event is, no matter what's
going on, Taylor is more surprised than anybody else.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Jilly said that this morning goes up just shocked.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
After the game, you should she was dancing, she was.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
So didn't this look like sort of a precursor to
a bachelorette party.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Or a bachelorette party, I don't know, could be. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah, And she was sitting right where she technically would
be getting married soon.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
And did you notice that Scooter Braun they are enemies now,
and they were like two or three roads apart. Scooter
Braun was at the game with Sydney Sweeney.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, he was sitting behind Taylor.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
He took a picture of her feet and posted she
had she had sandals on. She had little basketballs that
were hanging off the sides. So I showed Billy the
picture of her feet. You can look them up. Okay,
he was not pleased.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Does she have sausage?

Speaker 5 (10:09):
Man?

Speaker 3 (10:10):
You know Kim? I talked back, and much worse than that.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, kims are Sydney's.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Sydney's they were like bread. I haven't seen kims, but
you guys didn't said they weren't that bad.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, you know what I love. I love Timothy shallow May.
He is a legitimate Knicks fan. Okay, yeah, he sits
court side. He loves the Knicks. He was with Kylie
Jenner and he was going nuts.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Come on, Nick, baby Nicks in five Baby Jayleen, my god, baby,
oh g my god, oh g oh gee. Sounds like
bill o G.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
It's o G.

Speaker 7 (10:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
What weren't he and Kylie dressed the same.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
They were dressed exactly the same in chrome hearts. Is
that a thing though, denim mountfits.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I mean Sydney and Scooter bron had like similar jackets
on too, Like couples dressing alike.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Shall and I are going to a wedding this weekend.
Shout out to the Rocket family. By the way, Thomas
and Courtney are getting married.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Congratulations Thomas and Courtney.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
So should she and I dress alike?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
You could try?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I mean sometimes you come in dressed like Lisa, Yes,
matching on purpose.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, yeah, we got a vibe. Okay, we got a
vibe going.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I like how Timothy Shallomey when he grabbed the microphones
entertainment tonight. They was trying to get an interview, and
he was like give me.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
That started shouting to the crowd outside Madison Square. Hayley
Bieber was with Tate McCrae. H And Seinfeld was there,
Ben Steeler was there, Chris Rock was there. Ben Stiller
and his wife are huge Knicks fans.

Speaker 10 (11:44):
My wife, Christine and I came home after the last
game and burned the clothes we were wearing it.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
I'm not ever wearing that stupid final shirt that I
was wearing that was that was awful.

Speaker 10 (11:54):
Had the jeans and she had some like bracelets that
got thrown away.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, it's just you.

Speaker 10 (12:00):
You you wipe it clean and you know, these I've
been wearing for a while because I just I've had
good games with them too.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
But otherwise everything else, you start fresh.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's hard to pull off a vinyl shirt. Maybe it's
best to earned it. No, it's awesome, very hot out
for vinyl. It's very hot for vinyl. You could get
Game five Saturday night in San Antonio. World Cup starts today.
The first match of the Cup South Africa and Mexico
in Mexico City. The first match in Foxboro will happen

(12:31):
Saturday night, nine o'clock. That's eighty versus Scotland and I
got to love the guys from France arriving in Boston yesterday.
Nobody saw that coming except die hard fans. Four Seasons
Hotel were waiting outside the hotel. Pretty cool, very thick,
like a huge crowd. And don't forget Stanley Cupp Tonight,

(12:52):
Hurricanes and the Golden Knights. That series is heated, tied
to two games apiece. We got a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
So do we think the celebrities will go to Antonio Saturday?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Some will? I bet Schlamey does, definitely, Definitely, Ben Stiller
maybe and yes, Spike, Oh, Spike for sure. What is
his dress code?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I mean he's very eclectic.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, you know when he's there, I think somebody should
start dressing like Spike Lee just to throw people off.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Okay, he does have some exclusive shoes though, the sneakers
are pretty exclusive. But you know what they need to
do for San Antonio Saturday night, bring Wu Tang back.
Yeah Tang, buddy, come on, wool.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Tangers for the children.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
We teach the children what's.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Up question, and we're back with Billy and Lisa in
the morning.

Speaker 9 (13:39):
I'm not really a morning person, but if I got
a wake up early. Might as well get a good
laugh on Kiss went Away.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Thank you so much, so much going on out there?
Do a LiPo? Okay, that's what we're talking about. Uh,
you get a book come tonightly.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
I do so it's with Ampatch at a big night
Live and I opened up a private guest list yesterday.
That guest list is closed now, but if you want
to buy tickets to the event, you can buy a ticket.
Just go to kiss oneaway dot com slash Lisa's book
club and we'll see you there tonight starting at six.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Not getting in so no list tickets left.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
The LIS's ticket the list, the private list is closed,
so he didn't hear from me. I'm sorry, I had.
I had to get the names in by last night.
It's like a whole process because like Ticketmaster, it's like
a big it's like a bigger deal.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
So if you wanted to get on the list, unfortunately you're.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Not getting tickets. And by the way, you and your
husband send them down here and he'll tear his head
off of that.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Lisa.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Now the entertainment updates.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Billy got stuff on Kiss Away.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I have no explanation for what just happened. Okay, just
so you know, no defense, no explanation. All right, We've
been talking about the Knicks pers game last night, talk
about a historic finish, finish while it was history, was history,
the biggest comeback at NBA Final history. In Madison Square
Garden last night. They were down by twenty nine points

(15:05):
at the half and they came back to win it
in New York in Madison Square Garden. Absolute pandemonium. I
can't hear the final call enough.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
It's over.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Her greatest comeback in the.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
NBA playoff history. For the next pull off come on
lead at three games one, just amazing.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
That's why you can never give up, man, you know,
like I went to bed like you. Yeah, but you know, look,
I mean look at the twenty eighth to three game
against the Falcons the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, you never know, but if you watch the second
half play by play, point by point, it was incredible
to turn around for the Knicks. Yeah, Taylor Swift was there,
she was sitting courtside. She went with the Heims sisters.
Actually a lot of celebrities in Madison Square Garden last night.
But there's been all this talk leading up to the game.
It had nothing to do with the game. It was

(15:57):
all about the wedding that may or may not happen
inside Madison Square Garden. So it begs the question was
she scoping things out? Was it a bachelorette party? What's
going on there?

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Good morning?

Speaker 7 (16:07):
Everyone is book club Corney. I'm loving Taylor Swift at
the next game last night, her shirt was awesome.

Speaker 11 (16:14):
I was thinking, could this possibly be a bachelorette party.
I know they don't have the normal bachelorette party like
we do, but maybe this little Hayne could be part
of it.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
It definitely seemed like it could be.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
So when you came in, that's the first thing you asked.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
It read very much bachelorette party, so or like a
precursor to it.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Who knows.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
And she may have been there to kind of scope
out Madison Square Garden if in fact, the wedding is
going to be happening there, come up with some last
minute ideas of well what should go where.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
We were talking off the air this morning that maybe
all of these stories are true. Maybe she's getting married
this weekend in Rhode Island, like we had originally said
on June thirteenth at her house and then next door
at the what it's called ocean what is it the
own sort anyway? Yeah, and that Madison Square Garden a
month from now, right or a few weeks from now.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Could be the body a party for all of her.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Fans, like her number one fans through the years, right.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Twenty thousand people.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
It's a lot of NDAs now, but like eleven hundred
kind of like you know, people that are special to her.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, Producer Riley was telling me off the air that
or that you know, she's a pro at changing the narratives. Yeah, right,
and so her going last night could be to change
the narrative of that. That's where the wedding venue is. If
you google Taylor Madison Square Garden, all that comes up
is wedding, but now it's the Knicks game.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, you think Taylor goes to San Antonio?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
No, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I don't do what I mean because she's not really
a Knicks fan. She was there maybe because of the wedding.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
She's in New York. Right in New York's very close
to Rhode Island.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, we know who's going to be in San Antonio
in the Ta Lam Yes, definitely going.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Remember he came to Boston when the next bid. Yeah,
so he travels.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
If your Taylor Swift, does your mind ever stop working?

Speaker 4 (18:09):
It doesn't seem like it. It seems like she's up
at two am, like she has a thought. She's writing
it down in like a.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Notebook, creating music, creating tours, creating narratives like it just
seems like it's constantly swirling.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Well, that's how she came up with the song for
Toy Story. She saw the movie or the scene, yeah,
and she immediately started writing and then facetimed Jack Antonoff
and they wrote the song together.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I just don't see the wedding at Madison Square War.
I could be wrong, Lord knows, what do you think
at this point?

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Lis?

Speaker 4 (18:38):
I think everything's true. I think they're getting married maybe
this weekend. Then maybe it's like some big party a
couple weeks later.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
More importantly, what does our audience think? Yeah, let us
write and let us know right now. Hit the talkbacks.
iHeartRadio app tap that red microphone or you can call us.
We seven thirty will do right.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Do you have any tea on any of this? Like,
have you heard anything?

Speaker 3 (18:58):
We have gotten some tea from our listeners, especially talkbacker.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yes, isn't Travis and training you.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
You know I thought about that with the July third wedding. Yeah,
I mean he must have a deal obviously.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, we'll stay on it, We'll
stay on, but we got to move on because the
World Cup begins to day, the first match South Africa
versus Mexico in Mexico City. Shakira, by the way, is
going to do her anthem I die at the opening
ceremony today. Here's a tease. Got everything you need. That's

(19:37):
my favorite anthem so far, so far. Because another World
Cup anthem dropped yesterday. We're talking Megan Stallion, David Ghetta,
and Andrea Bocelli.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Fun.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Oh yeah, good sound. You gotta get excited. It's gonna
be crazy and it all starts this afternoon in Mexico City.
Team France arrived in Boston yesterday. This was a cool
moment outside the Four Seasons hotel list it.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Was they arrived.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
I think they put it on social all their fans
showed up. You're right, it's at the Four Seasons right
on Boylston straight at faces like the Calm in the
park and they rented out the entire hotel for the
entirety of their stay, so they will be traveling back
and forth like they have to go to New York
to play a match and then they'll come back here.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
And boy, that took to book out an entire host wait,
a whole hotel or a whole floor, the entire hotel.
It's over one hundred rooms.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, and there were fans waiting. How did they find out.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
He was in front of me? It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I have no words, honestly, crazy land and we're walking up.
We've seen it coming and bope I like embape.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
I do too.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
These guys are incredible athletes. Yeah, incredible athletes. Uh, don't forget.
We have the Olivia Rodrigo album listening party right here
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to send in a talk back and when your way
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Speaker 12 (21:11):
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hear Olivia Arrigo's new CD before anyone else. I am
already off of work tomorrow, so I am good to go.
You tell me when and where and I will be there.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
Thanks so much. Kiss Win.

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Pack going back to the French team. They're practicing at Bentley.

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While they're here.

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Is that where you graduated now, Babson.

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But that's but that's their practice facility, so they'll be
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Lisa was a Babs and Beaver.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, I'm sorry I messed that up here.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, but isn't that cool that you can go maybe see.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
See them practice?

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, that's cool, very good.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
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Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, what's really cool about that is the list to
get in for the listening party obviously is not that big.
We can't accommodate everybody. So if you do do not
get into that, you can tune in at nine and
hear the album.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
She went on Kimmel last night. This is her first
album release since turning twenty one. So what's the plan?

Speaker 5 (22:37):
I think sour I was seventeen when it came out Guts,
I was twenty and now I'm twenty three. So I'm
gonna get really drunk.

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Oh okay, I'm really excited about.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Now I'm of age. I can I properly do it?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
I see, yeah, I see get really drunk, just like Bill.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I'm already loopy.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay, it's all right. I don't apologize.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
I'm sorry, that's just why. Yeah. Earlier this week, we
talked about her song with Robert Smith of The Cure. So,
why Robert Smith and why the Cure?

Speaker 5 (23:13):
I think I was probably introduced to them through my parents.
My dad is a huge Cure fan. We saw him
at Primavera at the other day we saw we saw
the cure perfor him and he said that that was
his thirtieth time seeing the cure.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Wow, the diehards still not cured.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
He hasn't found it, no, no, no, So is he one.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Of those guys that Robert Smith like looks out in
the audience like, oh he's back.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Yeah, courteous doctor fan. No, he got to talk to
Robert when, you know, because we're kind of friends now,
and the first time he met him, I've never seen.
My dad's like very tough. You know, he's a dad.
He's he's like a protector. And I saw they saw
each other, and he just like the tears started welling
up in his eyes. His screensp on his phone is
a picture like him and Robert like that. It's so sweet.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
I think I saw the cure you did.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, it's actually when I was in fouths in I
don't know. I was thinking it was like depeche Mode
was there.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I don't know. I remember you saw depeche Mode.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Yes, I remember seeing the cure. I don't but it
was around that time. I don't know exactly where it was.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, they sing this song right here.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah okay, oh okay, yeah, yeah. Robert Smith had crazy hair,
like crazy hair, I.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Remember, and her dad is a big fan. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Okay, what Bill, I can't believe you did not write
the story in of our viral video that did you
not want to go there? We went viral. Billy and I.
You don't have to, It's fine, but if you want
to see the video, it's on the Billy and Lisa in.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
The you know what I say, Let's go there.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
No, it's just you know, we did a little video,
little triend.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I was ordered to do a video my producer Riley. Yeah, okay,
and I got talking to your wife got in trouble.
I got a talking I'm.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Not surprised because I was like, I.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Didn't see it coming walked in the door.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Can you well, it's the it's the Laine you shaved
your Bush challenge? Yeah, by Billy and I had to
say it in different kind of tones. Why was Michelle upset?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Well, she just thought it was kind of curious and
was wondering, are you talking about.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Well least you know what he said to her.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I've never been a fan of the bush, to be honest.

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Speaker 4 (25:52):
Lisa Kiss Wait, good morning everyone, listener.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
Lisa here watching the game last night. Nice sent justin Lee.

Speaker 13 (26:00):
There was a woman with a black jacket originally next
to her before the game. They were standing pointing.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Even when they sat down.

Speaker 9 (26:08):
They were pointing around. So was she trying to plan
her vision?

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Is the wedding really there?

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
So she was pointing at certain areas and certain things
within Madison Square Garden. Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
She could have been showing the person, Yes, he's going
to look like this, we're going to set this up here.
Who knows.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
So maybe she was scoping out the place, coming up
with some last minute ideas. I'm still not buying it,
but it still has me thinking. And I think that's
what Taylor Swift does to everybody. Right.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Well, okay, you brought up in earlier break about Travis's
football schedule. Yeah, so where is he right now? What
is he doing what's expected of him with the Chiefs?

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Well, he's in training camp.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Right, so is heing in trading?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Which is probably why he couldn't be there last.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Nightight, But is he in training camp this weekend?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I don't think it have enough time. I'm off to
do an entire wedding. Three day's a lot, okay, although
who knows. Maybe it took a while to do this
the last contract, but the Chiefs maybe they rode it
inside the contract that will allow you time away.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Remember they did that with Brady because Brady was like,
need some more family time, and then he didn't show
up to a lot of these pre you know, these
mini camps and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
But if there was any negotiation around a possible wedding,
we would have heard about that.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, so I'm looking it up now. The Chiefs training
camp kicks off mid July. Oh, so he's available, and
rookies typically report to the facility for their initial workouts
shortly after.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Why are the Patriots on the field already.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Well, because they have the off season workouts, they have
the OTAs, and they have the mandatory mini camp.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Hi.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
All right, so then that lends itself to maybe the
wedding is this weekend.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah. The mandatory mini camp, by the way, for the
Chiefs is the ninth through the eleventh, which is today,
so it ends today.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh God, I get exhausted just following Taylor Swift. Honey,
I saw it. How can she be her?

Speaker 12 (28:07):
Well?

Speaker 4 (28:07):
I saw something else on Instagram yesterday, like there's a
theory going on that they're already married like that.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
It's like, oh, that's out there too.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
See, I would not be surprised at that, even if
the Madison Square Garden thing is true, that that's not
where they're getting married, right, Like list said earlier.

Speaker 14 (28:23):
Yeah, high morning, team, it's Anny from SELFI I hope
you guys are all doing well listening back on the
podcast today. I just wanted to comment on Taylor Swift sweating.
I kind of feeling she's going to get married in Europe.
I think the past couple months she's been spotted there
a lot with Travis, and when she's not on tour,
they could be vacationing, but I think they were scouting

(28:45):
out wedding spots. I agree Madison Square gron in Rhode
Island of decoys, and she has the money in the
security to get married somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, I think Europe makes sense. It makes a lot
of sense, and she's right. They have spent a lot
of time there. What's been going on overseas?

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Or maybe they already had the wedding there.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I think we would have known.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
I know, you never know with her. She really never
a secret. She kept the Toy Story song secret.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, good point. You could all be I'll be off
on this. We probably are all off, but we like
to speculate.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
All I care about is the Heim sisters.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
He's stuck on my hand.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
What on earth is that?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
They've been friends forever?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
But okay, forever, but who's your best friend right now?
I know she've lost a couple of them.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Well, I think that she's really good friends with Selena Gomez.
And I think that Alana, Danielle and st are the
Him sisters, so I think they're in the mix.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I saw that Selena Gomez is a bridesmaid, possibly makes sense. Possibly,
and Gigi is a bridesmaid. Yeah, that's all I've seen.
It seemed definitive.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
But she's been a long time friend, longtime friends with
the Hypsist.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
I wonder if Marishka Hardigate will be a bridesmaid.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
How does she fit in?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
She's always been friends with Taylor.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Her cat's named after her character from SVU Yep, it's true.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
You're Marissa Hardigay, is that yes? And you're at the
next game. Are you wondering or worrying if anybody knows
who you are?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Now see you're off on, You're off on. She's a
New York legend. Yeah, she is an icon, definitely. And
by the way, I think the last game she went
with her co star Christopher Maloney. Yes, she went to
the game with.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I always like Chris, mother milaw.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Dude, the law and order people are gonna come for you, Bill,
They're gonna put you on child. Let's go to got
Candace in Lowell Line.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
One, Good morning, Candace. What do you think? What's up
with Taylor?

Speaker 8 (30:50):
So how do we not know that everyone is meeting
at Madison Square Gardens and being shuttled.

Speaker 10 (30:56):
Off to somewhere and nobody actually knows where the wedding is?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, like, how does somebody not follow the motor kit
that's the thing, they'd follow the buses somewhere. But they
say that's one of the reasons Madison Square Garden would
be perfect for the wedding because of all their different
private entrances. You never know who's coming and who's going.

Speaker 15 (31:15):
Okay, well, they could be flying somewhere.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
How do we know that.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
We don't like what from the roof.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
At THEO.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
They bust them to the airport and then someone would
would you know, track the tail number of the planes?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Well, they do track her plane?

Speaker 5 (31:34):
They do.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's creepy. There's a website that tracks the
planes of wealthy.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
It doesn't seem right they're allowed.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
It's there's a whole website. Yeah to it. Wow, I
can see where they fly. Remember the I think it
was Kylie Jenner got in trouble or Kim because they
flew like ten minutes the jet.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I think it was Kylie.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, cheeseburger.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, I'm telling you. I think they're gonna get married
in your I like that. You should play some vets.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
That's what we should do.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Like when are they getting married?

Speaker 12 (32:07):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, well when and where? Those are the two big questions.

Speaker 13 (32:09):
Can you imagine getting the invitation for Sailor Swift's wedding
on June thirteenth and you have FIFA soccer tickets, but
you got the invitation to Taylor Swift's wedding on the thirteenth, Like,
which one do you decide to go to?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Oh? That's a good point because a lot of celebrity friends,
maybe soccer fans, may have gotten the tickets. They've got
plenty of money to buy them, and well.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
They also have plenty of money to buy other tickets
to another match. I would go to the tailor wedding
if that was if I had to choose.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
I would too. Anyway, we want to continue this conversation.
Give us a call right now eight seven seven six
one seven one eight. What do you think You want
to speculate with us? Have some fun if you have
inside information too. We want to know. Hit the talkbacks
on the I hot app. Let us know. Wake up.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
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And I think that would pay off. I think too,
it was Taylor Swift right there. I never thought I'd
say these words, but I think that's my favorite Taylor

(33:26):
Swift's song, Opa Lite.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I love Opal.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
You know, it just makes you want to it makes you smile.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
What is that line? If you're picking out of the trash,
it's never gonna last. I mean that is.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Song right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (33:38):
That's world classes songwriting. But yeah, we're talking about Taylor
because obviously the big game last night. God, everybody is
a buzz about that game, historical finish. The Knicks win
it with like a second and a half left in
the game that were down by about twenty nine points.
There were so many celebrities at the game inside Madison
Square Garden. Of course, Taylor Swift with the first one

(33:59):
that popped up, and everybody said, oh my god, why
is she at Madison Square Garden? Why is she at
the next game? What's she getting married?

Speaker 5 (34:05):
The right?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Is there an easter egg here?

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Well, I mean every day, We've been reporting every days,
every news outlet that Madison Square Garden is a location
supposed supposedly or Rhode Island.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
It looks like a bachelorette party today.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah. Well we asked for tips, and what do you know,
so I.

Speaker 13 (34:21):
Have to follow this.

Speaker 16 (34:22):
My mom's best friend, her daughter in law, her best
friend was supposed to get married this summer at a
venue in Rhode Island.

Speaker 9 (34:31):
Which makes total sense, and was bought.

Speaker 15 (34:34):
Out for that specific fame by the one and only
Killer Swifts.

Speaker 10 (34:42):
It's it's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
That story before.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
We've heard this before, we had it on the show.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
We had a talkbacker.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Actually, someone DMed me yes and then told me the
whole backstory. There's more to this story, right, So that's
why it seemed so believable.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
That Taylor Swift bought out the venue you in Rhode Island,
near her home on the water there for the wedding.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
I am you know, I am leaning towards this weekend
as something is going on.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yes, makes sense to me, me.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Too, because she's in New York, it's very close to
Rhode Island. He's available, Travis isn't playing football right now.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
But if the wedding was this weekend, would she be
at the Knicks game last night?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yea, nothing makes sense.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
No, but it could be to throw people off.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Said, there's a lot of time, But what is the point.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Of throwing changing the narrative of the wedding being possibly being.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
There and she was with all her girlfriends.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah, and now the story is she was at the
Knicks game. Yeah, Good morning, gang, it's Doug.

Speaker 16 (35:42):
I really don't care all that much about Taylor Swift. However,
my roommate has a house in Westerly, so this weekend
we're going to go down and if she's getting married
in New York, well then I'm going to have a
good time in Westerlywood Island. If she's getting married at
her house or in Watch Hill, well I'm gonna go
and try.

Speaker 9 (36:01):
To see if I can people watch.

Speaker 16 (36:02):
But either way, I'm gonna have a good time.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
Would be cool to confidence of people.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Okay, that talkbacker. If something goes down this weekend, he
has to be our correspondent for The Billy at least
the morning show Monday morning. Yeah, well he'll be there,
and you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Okay, Well, if he's listening right now, I think his
name was what was his name, Doug? Let me say
good morning, gang, it's Doug Yug.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah remember yeah, you know I remember Doug when he
was just a chubby little kid. Yeah, Doug is going
to be in Westerly for the wedding.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
All right, Well, let's get to the controversy here, Billy.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I cannot believe that you just dis maris shame on you, Bill, Yeah,
she is.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
A New York legend.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Ohay, first of all, I will love kidding she's legend.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Don't walk it back now what I was only kidding.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
It's based on like all of the current celebrities that
were there. And oh there's Marissa.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Hargotay, shame on you, Bill, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Harry Combs, here comes Bill. I I don't think you were.

Speaker 9 (37:11):
To take about this wedding. The Medicine Square Garden has
an entire security team that she utilized. She has so
many high profile people coming to the wedding, so they
don't even need to go outside to come into the venue.
They can literally just go on her ground and be there.
And she has so much money that she can literally
just change the entire look of the venue for whatever

(37:32):
time she needs. It's not like there's going to be
like a hot.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
Dog sign in the back.

Speaker 7 (37:36):
She has so much money it doesn't even matter.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Well, we had the story yesterday that she supposedly rented
the garden already in advance for three days at a
million dollars a day. Yes, because you need it to
set up right for one day at least to set
up everything you're setting up you need a day for
the wedding and then a day for whatever breakdown.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
I think it could all be true. That's when I'm sticking.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Hi morning, Go ahead, Bill, Sorry, no way, Madison Square
Gard that's what you're saying. That's my vote, so we
bet this.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
No, But I think Madison Square Garden could be a
different type like a party, an after party.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
So wait, Bill, what are you saying. Are you saying
nothing is happening at all, no party or wedding, Nothing.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Is going to happen at Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Okay, okay, what are you saying?

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Fifty bucks?

Speaker 5 (38:24):
I see.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
I think she's getting married this weekend, and then she's
using Madison Square Garden as like a big party for
her like number one fans, like she always thinks about them.
So then that would make sense because it's like a
big sort of like public forum that she can really
make special. But I think she's getting married this weekend.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Okay, I'm gonna say just Rhode Island, just to be different,
Just Rhode Island.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Yeah, Hi, you're morning.

Speaker 7 (38:50):
This is from Ashby.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
I think Lisa is right.

Speaker 7 (38:53):
I think everything and anything.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Can and will happen. I think definitely Roade.

Speaker 15 (39:00):
On this weekend and then Madison Square Garden. Maybe something
in Europe, but where exactly in Europe at least knows
maybe more about that, but yeah, everything is possible, right
to Taylor World.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
That's right, okay on this Madison Square Garden thing. Just
to be clear on the bed oh okay, okay, I
don't lose if she goes to Disney on ice or
something at Madison Square Garden, it has to be something
related to the wedding. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not
going to the Monster Trucks wedding related?

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Yeah, yes, Bill, nothing at Madison Square Garden related to
the wedding.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, I'm still thinking they're going to get married in Europe.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
All right, Well, we'll see.

Speaker 9 (39:49):
What I really want to know is how all the
other celebrity invitees feel about the situation, Like at this point,
are they just like fed up by Taylor Swift and
her antics, like they have to sign and for all
of this stuff, and are they just sitting at home
being like here she goes again, like creating all kinds
of narratives for where she's getting married,
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Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.

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