December 9, 2025 • 39 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, pull up here, pull up, we got some
guests in the building. Hi, everybody, it's the After Show podcast.
Maddie Damon Power of Recovery, as teased, are here in
the studio. What's up, gentlemen already know not much, Maddie.
I'm looking at you right now, and I see you
have a power of Hope sweatshirt on. Congrats on the
grand opening that I was not invited to. But it's okay.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Apparently he doesn't have social media. It's broken.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, no, I know we're not really welcome. Did you
see that. I think there was several invice.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
No, I saw a post of everyone celebrating at the facility.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
So you didn't see the month and a half leading
out to and.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So you just don't follow us. And I had my
blinders on it.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Okay, So say that I wasn't paying attention, Maddie.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Sorry I missed you.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, yeah, but it looked amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I think we are the ones who should be offended.
To be honest, I believe he just didn't show up.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
This is not true. See how it turned on you though,
But also, when can I get a power of hope
sweat I'm wearing my power of recovery.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah you so fly in the flag man. We love that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We're gonna have to bring one next month.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I get a lot of compliments on this sweatshirt that
that's a nice it's a really nice one. It fits
me good. I have like three different ones. This one
fits me the best, but the other ones are great.
But I lost a little weight to the Okay, I've
been working.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Hard, guy, I haven't.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Then pepsides, you look fine, you look great. No, dude,
he's eating like a pig.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It's it's disgusting. Well you would know, yeah, I mean
I'm by his side all the time. I got to
feed him sloppy pizza and eating every day. He ate
like a three and two foot subjest that it was wild.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Are you okay? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Yeah, Well somebody gotta eat breakfast.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Are you hitting the gym at least?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Dude, you're breaking up with these headphones?
Speaker 6 (01:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
No, dude, he's like you. He he's in conjunction. So
if if if it's on, it's on, the eating's proper.
The gym's like. But when it's not, he's like, I'm
gonna eat myself to death. And then hopefully make it
to the gym next month.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I fail that so much.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah over here, like I'm just saying, I look good.
He lives on French fries and pizza.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Still look good.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah. We talked about your diet before. Damon, you're very
similar to my son, who's eight years old. You basically
eat like a child.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I see, I see what you did that, and uh yeah,
I'm not fighting it. I used to, you know, it
used to be a very difficult subject for me, and
Maddie would protect me, like you can't ask Damon about
his food. He's embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And okay, how about this one? So uh, I don't
know if he announced this at all. But Billy's son
Alex Costa, who everyone most of the people are listening
know he does consulting in the in the addiction community
and does work with you guys on power recovery. Do
you know about his diet or no?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I don't you know. What I know is exactly like you.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No, No, he's not had he never had meat, has
never had steak, has never had any kind of chicken.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I'm sure he said me no straight Waidoh then yeah, yeah,
you think you know somebody.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You know what's crazy. I was on I was on
a zoom meeting with the other day. He's he's all
of that going on, and he's drinking a giant bottle
of Saratoga water like this, like two foot long bodilies
like this. It was, yeah, I know, just like that.
I made sure to let him know what he looked like, like, oh,
I'm sure you never had meat before, bro, Like.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
No, it's a serious it's a serious thing. When they
were when they were he was a kid at Thanksgiving,
he would have a separate little table for himself and
then have to like feed him different food. When he
goes to restaurants, high end ones, he eats first. He's
only ever had pizza, French fries, chicken fingers, bread.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Sounds familiar.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
But I.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Have a new best friend, haha, Maddie.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, I'm on the outs with I always find myself
on the outs.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
You know what, though, like we can this is one
thing and you call it whatever you want to call it.
But when we go somewhere, he can he I can
sit down, I go to the bathroom, I can show
up late, and he can order my whole meal phone.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well, he knows you, Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I
know you can identify with this YouTube, Damon, but you
Maddie with the food thing. So I feel like when
I go off right, when I feel like I'm gonna
eat fucking ship food, this thing, this addiction kicks in,
and I'm like, I want to fucking eat myself to death,
Like I want to eat until I hate myself, and
(04:08):
then I do, and then I hate myself.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I welcome and identify. I told said it in a
meeting the other night. I can make anything unhealthy my
sick brain. I can make broccoli unhealthy. I can use
it to where it will hurts you.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Me too, It's horrible, me too, me too. Imagine imagine
living with me, my wife.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's my greatest strength and my greatest weakness is my
disease of addiction.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, it is kind of a superpower, but it can
also hold us back to That's how it is. If
you allow it, if you allow it, if.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You allow it, we now knowingly do that.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah, I know the result, and I say, ah, whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Listen, We're going to do it to this date and
then I'm gonna stop. And normally I can.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I pretty much cut.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It down Yeah, Well, we're continuously working on ourselves an
incurable disease, as we've talked about many times on this podcast. Okay,
so Power of Hope is open. It's a a adolescent
facility outpatient for you for you for mental health, yes right, yes,
and you obviously have Power of Recovery, which is addiction
treatments for adults. While so you have the adults here
(05:13):
and the kids here, but the kids is more for
the mental.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It is it is.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, we're trying to we're trying to help get into
that with them before they stop the kind of stuff
that him and I did, the self medication and all
the other things. So we know there was a lot
of underlying causes things that you know, him and I
probably could have had someone talking to I'm sure you
could added someone talking to us about before we went
a little bit off the tracks. We want to try
and you know, help get us out on that before
(05:38):
anyone's going too far off the track.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah. The last time you were here, I think you
were about to open. You had because when was the
opening date recently?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Right, it's been open probably about a month. I don't
know the exact date.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's far closer to two months.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But yeah, so it's been open two months.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, it's just Jamie.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
I wanted to thank you for having the Power of
Recovery guys on your show yesterday. I reached out and
have a call with one of the therapists from Power
of Hope today for my children. The teenagers need some
support in that area, and I just appreciate all that
(06:24):
they've done and I'm excited for this next chapter.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So thank you.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Wow, yeah, Sarah, she's glowing.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
That's amazing, man.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
That just made me feel good.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Thank you to just Jamie and for letting us know that,
and obviously to you justin we had I mean, you
don't know. We just do what we do and you
know it when it impacts people, it's it's it's a
lot of tumbling, man.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Well that's the thing about what you guys do, right,
So obviously you know you've started this amazing thing from
Power Recovery, not Power of Hope. You have tons of
sober houses and all that stuff, and it's what you
do for a living, right, that's what you do. But
also the other side of his you're helping people, right,
and so you must get that feeling over and over again.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I wish it was more often than not with power.
Hope you do get that feeling now more often than
you don't. Like just hearing that woman there, it just
made me feel some kind of way wow, dealing.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
With the other stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
You know how the statistics are so like, you feel bad,
you feel bad.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
What's the number, by the way, off the top of
your head that make it compared that don't? Is there no.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Idea, but sitting in this room, it's one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Wow, if you really think of it, one hundred percent
of us made it today today.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Today.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
The best feeling is to watch somebody come in broken
and empty and ashamed, and then you know how time goes.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's so fast.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And then four years later you see the man or
woman and they get their kids back, they have a job,
they have their own living situation, and like they're just regular, normal,
active members of society.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, I had a tiny pot in that.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yep, Yep, it's amazing. It's amazing. By the way, I
really like the post you guys put up on Instagram.
You didn't see this, Maddy, did you see it? Damon
of me? It went up on the Power of Recovery
Instagram yesterday it's me on stage when I spoke to Boston,
and it has the quote it was I Really. I
got a lot of good feedback on that post, so
thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But recently, how about this, right? So recently, I had
a best friend growing up that I used with. Okay,
and when I got clean, he didn't, So I had
to separate myself because I kept relapsing with him. Childhood
best friend, right, think about someone in your life.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
I have it.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, So we have not been friends since I've seen
him here or there, but he never got clean. Really sad, right.
I love him to death and I'm still waiting for
that day when he'll get clean. But when we were younger,
growing up, he had a younger brother that was like
five or six years younger, and the brother hated me
because he blamed me for his older brother's addictions. He
felt like I was the one taking him out. I
(08:56):
mean I had a part in it, but obviously his
own life, he chose to do whatever, so he always
hated me. Okay. Now fast forward to about a couple
of weeks ago. I wake up in the morning and
I have a message on Facebook. I'm not friends with
him on Facebook. But it comes in. I open it
and it's from the brother, and the brother says, I
remember you. I fucking hate you. I fucking hate you.
(09:20):
I've always hated you. You're the biggest piece of shit.
You owe me an apology all in caps, And so
I open it and look at it, and I'm like, first
reaction is anger. I'm like, this motherfucker, does he know
who the fuck I am?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And so then I get dressed and I'm thinking about
I didn't respond yet. I'm thinking about what I'm gonna respond.
So I drive all the way to work and I'm thinking,
and I'm thinking about it's festering. And I get almost
to work and then I start the recovery kicks in
right the seeing the other side of things, the playing
the tape through. And I thought to myself, what if
he doesn't know that I'm clean? Because my ego told
(09:55):
me I'm the radio guy. How does he not know?
And I go, but what if he does? And what
if whatever? So I said, you know what, I'm gonna
do the opposite. So I got here to work like
three in the morning, and I wrote this message to him,
and I go, hey, it's so good to hear from you.
I hope things are well. I don't know if you
know this about me, but I've been clean for seventeen
years now. I have a family. I didn't think about
where I work or anything. I just I have a family,
(10:17):
and I just want to say I'm sorry for anything
that I did in my past. Never meant to hurt you.
And he wrote back instantly. He was up and he
wrote back and he goes, oh my god, he goes,
thank you for responding. I had no idea. I'm so
proud of you. I didn't know you were clean. And
he goes, just so you know, my dad's dying in
the hospital and he only has a couple of days
to live. So I'm really emotional right now. And you
(10:38):
showed up on my Facebook. Dude lives in Canada, doesn't
even fucking live here, had no idea where I was.
I popped up on it. He was probably he sent
it home crying and upset, and I showed up on
his people you may know, and he was like, fuck
this kid, right, But that's the change in recovery, right,
that's the step work. That's the work that we do. Right.
Playing the tape through before the reaction. Does he know
who I am? You know what I mean? I would
(11:00):
have responded that way. Amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
So two people in my life do that to me,
Damon and my wife. When a bad text comes through,
please put the phone down because instantly I want to
spit best and I want to hurt that person and
moralize them, and I want to win. Yep, you gotta
have that pause. I never had it. Yeah, I do
now way better. Damon's good at it. Damon processes everything
(11:26):
to the point where it aggravates the shit out of it,
Like I'm waiting for a fight. Yeah, and he's processing.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I'm like, when's this kick going to kick?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So you should have a rule, you too, right, madd
You should have a rule where before you respond to anything,
you run it by Damon.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, that's pretty much the rule. It's already there. I
mean he tried.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I tried, but some of them slipped through the.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I say to listen. I say, I'll go to him. Hey, dude,
what's that going to get? He goes about twelve seconds
of pure bliss and then I know it's trash after that,
But for like twelve to fifteen seconds, I'm going to
feel fantastic.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, but it also knows that if he does do that,
you're gonna be there to pick up the pieces, Damon.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Sometimes it's still hard for me.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, I'm not gonna bulche it.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Like I texted Damon on his birthday and then I
texted them like a couple of days later, and I'm like, you, guys,
good for coming in for the podcast. I just text
Damon because Damon's the one that knows.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Though, here we go, all right, let's say from the people.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Yeah, okay, I just listened to the podcast with the
Power of Recovery. Guys, I've never been in recovery and
I don't know anyone, but I very much enjoy listening
to them. But this podcast, I realize you are a
next level you, meaning Justin are a next level of crazy.
So if you have your wife on, you definitely need
(12:40):
to have her share how she deals with all of
your ocdnis.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Lol.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Love listening, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Or we could have Maddie's wife on.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Oh you'll just have a competition of which one's more
OCD between.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Her and Justin.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, and there no not at.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
All this story, not even a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, he has to. He has to slide the lint
role in a specific direction for a certain amount of
time on each shirt every few minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
You're a clean freak.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Not really, but I don't like.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I like.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Dude. You can't do that. You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Buddy, It's okay you don't.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, dude, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I have my own corks. Damon probably has. Let's get Damon.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yes, let's get Katie down here.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, good luck.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, what's she going to say? We all have stuff
going on. Trust we trust me.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
By justin Hi, Damon, Hi, Maddie. I have a loved
one in PHP and attending sober living and they have
no job and no money. I am supporting them financially
and it is becoming draining. And I was wondering if
it is a good idea for this person to get
a job while they're in this recovery process, or if
(13:59):
they should just focus on recovery. I'm just not sure
what to do anymore, and I would appreciate your guidance.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, guidance man.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Two sides to that, though, When you say, big guy one.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
You don't want to rush somebody right back into the
forty hour work week stress them out any more than
they have to.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But at some point they have responsibility.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
You know what they say for guys like us early on,
depending on where they are in the program and and
stuff like that, Like some of them are in patient
programs and they want to get what's called the get
well jump, where you might not like fly back into
your career if you were a career person or you
know it, we're in a high stress environment, but you
get something that will kind of help cover a little bit.
You work in a little pot time job that you
(14:41):
know you can make a couple hundred bucks a week
to ease the burden on the family. But again, it's
like Maddie said, and like you're saying, justin there's a
lot to it because you've got to figure out where
they are in program, how much clean time they have,
and how it's going to impact their recovery, because at
the end of it, you cannot do anything unless you
are clean and sober first.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Right social way, she said, he was in PHP sober living.
What's that?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I know?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Sober living is.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
So it's essentially what we do, right, Like, so, Power
of Recovery is a PHP. It's it's it stands for
partial hospitalization. It's basically day treatment that you go to
for a few hours during the day and then you know,
you live in in sober living.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Uh oh, I got you. So he's in both. He
goes to a day program and then lives in sober living.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It's just where he lives.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and what she's talking about is
is you know, sober living costs money. It's not something
like if you're in an inpatient program, all of it's
under one roof and it's and it's all covered right.
When you go into an outpatient program and you go
into a separate sober living, you have to pay for
the sober living There's different scholarships and stuff available too.
She should you know, if if if she's interested, we
(15:46):
can we might be able to help her out with
some more information to help figure out uh, you know,
a scholarship or something to help with the sober living
portion of it and stuff like that. So uh, she
can definitely give us a call, give me a call
and just call.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The office ask for him and they'll get the message
to him.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
What's the number, so uh for power They're gonna call
eight five seven five six seven six nights three seven.
I can't help, but it's eight five seven fifty six.
Power call us over there. You know, just mentioned mentioned
the podcast, mentioned that you heard us on there and
you had some information trying to get some assistance for you.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Loved one asked an answer it it's called the get
well job. Usually said it was for me. I sold
whale watch tickets down by the aquarium. That was in
the Ryan Hush.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I sold sell by the sea show.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, that's what I did. I stood a little booth
and sold whale whale watch tickets. That's what it was.
A get well job.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Was it at least as summertime?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It was? No, it wasn't actually well. No, it was
like fall, summer fall somewhere.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
That's not terrible in Boston.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's not bad.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
Hi, justin you're doing a great job on your podcast.
I love listening to your inspiration and your talks about addiction.
Wondering how you're going to talk to your kids about addiction.
Where you and your wife are, you know, recovering addicts.
How does that look for you? Like what advice can
you give to people parents who have you know, little children,
(17:10):
Our children are teens that might get influenced in that way. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, I saved this question for when you guys were
in that you could answer. Good luck.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I'm the only one. I'm the only one I can
answer right now. I got I recently found some vape
and weed pens on in my kids my old.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Way, so damon. So people should know you have four kids?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Are they fourteen? I hope I get this right? Fourteen, nine,
five and four? Wow?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think so this is the fourteen year old?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah, I hope it's not nine year old?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Would hope?
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
So you know, it was a few weeks ago, some whatever,
some weird thing happened. It was all the way it's
supposed to be, right, But it was discovered because my
phone was in a different room and I went into
my kids room and I found like he had stuffed
them somewhere, and I just happened upon it, and uh,
you know, so I grabbed my wife. I talked to
her and it's it's scary, man, it's not easy. And
(18:05):
for me personally, I just went about it. I think
a little differently than than some people do. I wasn't
in the yelling, screaming I'm gonna beat my kid up
kind of mode. It was. It was just like, all right,
here's the situation. What am I going to do? How
am I going to respond to it? And I had
a very calm and informative conversation with my wife and
(18:26):
and him and just told him, like, listen, dude, my
job is to protect you, and right now I got
to protect you from yourself. You're not making good decisions.
I took away a lot of his freedom with having
a cell phone and being able to go out and
and you know, told him that we'd be monitoring stuff
and wanted to provide him as much information as I could.
Myself and my wife are both in recovery, so we
told him he's a little bit behind the eight ball
(18:48):
when it comes to stuff like this that you know, uh,
he might be in a probably a potentially bad genetic
disposition being that where you know, everybody related to him
as a little bit of that in him. And and
then you know, I'll be honest with you. Is one
of the best things I could have done. Over the
next few weeks, I saw my son kind of return,
Like you know, he was a fourteen year ol kids
want to spend time around his family to begin with,
(19:09):
but he would either be out on his bike all
afternoon after he got home from school, which is cool,
but then he'd come home, go in his room, be
on his phone, come out for a meal, go back
to his room. We took all those things away from him,
and now he's like participating. He's being a big brother again,
he's a son. Like it's really it's really cool to watch.
So I think it was an error in our ways
(19:30):
that we didn't know until it was probably a little
bit too late, and that you know, kind of maintaining
some boundaries with some different freedoms that he had and
then when the conversation comes up, just inform and I'm like,
I told myself, dude, no matter what y'all gonna you
could still have friends at school. He's in high school, Like,
I'm sure there's other kids with weed pens in there.
There's there's other times he's gonna not be with us
(19:50):
that he's gonna have to make some decisions in those situations,
and and I'm hoping he has enough information and enough
way with all and strength to be able to to
make the right decision. And at the end of the day,
I don't honestly know if he's gonna be me either.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I mean, I mean he could. But here's the thing, right, Like,
I think that one of the best things we can
do for our kids is to be present. But on
the other hand, you know, you have four kids, if
you have multiple kids, even one kid, the bustle of life,
you know what I mean, You're very busy, so you're
present for your kids, but you can't watch everything that
they do, you know. And that's that's why when you
(20:25):
said that about maybe you should have done a better
job of, like whatever, catching it before it happened. You know,
I understand that because you know, days go by, you
know what I mean, and like, you know, you just
you try to keep track and then you know you
can't always keep track of everything they're doing. But I
wanted to ask, Damon, does he know your story, you
and your wife, your history? Yeah, how much of that
(20:45):
did you tell him?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I mean, I don't I don't really hide anything. I
don't think he knows specific details about about you know,
all this stuff, but he definitely knows without a doubt.
We have had conversations with them surrounding you know, our history,
hour story, and you know, how could how could you
know how that could potentially impact him. And again he
was informed and it's all real recent. He went from
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you know, he never picked up a vape to to
you know, he had a vape and then he had
weed bends. So it's you know what I mean. It
was a quick transition for us, far faster than we
thought any of this stuff was was happening, was going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
But you remember these days, those days being young at school,
all all the kids.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
The difference is, I told him, I said, when I
was a kid, we used to have that. We stunk
like weed. We didn't have edibles, we didn't have weed pens.
We didn't We had to make weed brownies in my
house to get edibles. Like there was no you know
what I mean. Like and I go ahead and try
and work that thing in a house where it's not allowed.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
But you guys are vote kids, right, Both went to
the vote in Wakefield.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, sure do.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I went to eleven schools in twelve nice los.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I graduated from the garage in Malden School in the basement.
So my son is eight years old. I never I
had no plans on talking to him about my past.
And for a couple more years, but Uh. Some kid
in the neighborhood showed him my news thing that they
did on me, which was upsetting to me because you know,
(22:08):
it was nice. But he had some questions. So I
had a conversation with him.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
That's how mine came out right around the same thing.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I never she had any My kids didn't know what
I did for work, none of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
They knew I helped people in houses. And then I
was on the That was the cover of the newspaper.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
They showed a picture of me strung out and the
picture of me clean.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
The writing said, nurse and a vicious heroin addiction.
Speaker 10 (22:33):
Oh my god, what's jad Is he gonna die?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Well?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I know the picture. It's one of you.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Now, like they know that, I don't go into detail
on anything I did. Now he's a little older and
he wants a couple like risky stories, So like between
me and Michelle, will tell him a couple of stories.
But just like damon my two kids. I see the
isms all over.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, the one more kids one?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
How about this one? You're doing something and not being
in the present.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
They want to be somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
What's next?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
O're the worst, the worst.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
So, like I already see it, like it obviously scares
you to death. And if this woman calling in knows
little to nothing about addiction and this is what we
do and it's scaring us, imagine for a regular person.
So my advice would be.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It's just education, education, education.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Saturday night, he's sleeping out my phone rings, it's ten thirty.
My son's thirteen. Here's the question, Dad, Yeah, painkiller is addictive.
I go, shit, yeah, And then I hear him tell
his buddy yelling I told you, I told you in
their research and his stuff, and tell them alcohols are drugs, right,
(23:51):
I go, yeah, drug?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
He goes, I told you. I go, hey, he goes
what I go, so at sugar? Yeah, gony.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
So like he educated on the fact, knock on wood.
I don't think he's done that yet. I know it's
a yet.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm not stupid. None of us are stupid.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Kids are gonna experiment, and just because they're experimenting don't
mean they're gonna end up homeless on the street like us.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Three Yeah, dude, And that's what I'm saying too about
my kid. At the end of the day, I think
he's in a toughest spot than other kids. But you know,
again diving in personally, I have a ton of nieces
and nephews and a bunch of my older nieces and nephews.
They recreate, Yeah, man, they don't. They live professional lives
and and good healthy lives. They get children they like,
(24:39):
and they drink a little bit. They might smoke a little.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Week and alcohol were made for you.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah you know what I mean. Like so, you know,
but again some of that early intervention in the education.
No matter what, at the end of the day, as
a parent, your kid is gonna be forced into some decisions.
And the best you can do, I think it is,
you know, being present and then also you know, making
sure that they don't feel uncomfortable coming to talk to
you like they you can't, I don't think personally. I
(25:04):
want my children to be able to come tell me
anything in their worst or best situation. I want to
be their first phone call, you know what I mean. So,
no matter what they don't like, oh my god, Dad's
gonna kill me, Oh my god, Ma's gonna come. I
don't want any of my kids to think like that.
I want them to know, no matter what they're dealing
with their parents. Are the safe place we do.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
We do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, ye, open communications.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I think he talks to my wife too much.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, yeah, what do you say. We had lunch and
meet him and and and his wife and you know,
Michelle and his oldest and I was like, oh that
was yeah, that was that was fun.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
That was different because you're not used to coming from that.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I don't talk to my parents.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I'm telling you, he's the kids, he's had kids. Mini
Maddie though, Dude, he's cracking jokes. He's he could wind
up being a stand up comedian and as a team dude,
justin hilarious.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Dude, is it interesting that you and your wife both
in recovery? Dame and your wife both in recovery? Me
and my wife?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Well, you go back to the statistics.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I think all statistics are bullshit because that's not supposed
to last either.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
So now it's sitting in this room. There's three of
us now the taro left.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah, all three of clean today. All three have successful relationships.
So what bat in a thousand in this wild true?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Oh speaking? Which can we are we allowed to mention
that the missus got uh oh got one twenty one
years imagine?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Oh really wait hold let me do the math here. Okay,
So I was in a sola house with with Maddie's
wife twenty one years.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Can we talk? Can we unpack that? Or don't know that?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
So?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, because it was two thousand and five, we were
in the house together. Yeah, so I was in Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
So one of your stayed clean?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yes, yes, so I was in jail. I got paroled
out to the Kingston House, which had a shelter.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Oh that's my spot case. Yeah, I love that place.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So then I was looking for solo houses to go in,
and in my head I was like, oh, I have
to go to the Link House or these houses that
were they had long waiting lists and you couldn't get
into right, And the only one that got accepted to
was the Ryan House, which is on Green Show and
not in the best area, right, but it was a
co head house house. So I thought I'm gonna go.
(27:20):
So I went and it did work for me. I
did stay clean for a little while after that. But
when I went there, Michelle, who was Maddie's wife, was
there and she had been there for like three or
four months and she fucking ran the house.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
No, she was not a surprise, dude, she changed.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
It was insane, Like I don't even like, no one
fucked with her.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
She does not play when it comes to recovery. And
and that dude she's literally with me and him would
just look up at her like, oh my god, like wow,
Like I get.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
To take my hat off to her when it comes
to the recovery stuff. You know how we veer off
course every now and then, and you have recovery to
a roller coaster.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
She don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, you don't miss noticeable.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
She's the adult in relationships. She's the adult for all
of us.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah. And she's also a fitness nut.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Unbelievable dude.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, Like I follow on Instagram, Like she's in the
gym every morning, four am routine. Then she does a
walk later on in the day.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yes, I got a I got one hundreds. And she
can suppressed Maddie right now.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Oh definitely.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
No, she's like for the people listening right now when
I say she's like, she's fucking ripped, just say what right, damon, dude,
she is.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
She's it's you know, not to get a little you know,
uh hair, nothing, but she looks good.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
He's about to step over.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
No, no, no, no, she she does a lot of
work on her body.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
She's beautiful. She's beautiful, but from a fitness standpoint. And
I did see yesterday. I think she was mail prepping
Maddie all of our meals. Yeahs, subs.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
She would dude in a happy she'd jump right in
and dude, don't get me wrong, he'll do it himself.
She would do it too. But when he's ready, he's ready,
and he does it, but she doesn't. There's no what
he's doing right, there's no what any of the three
of us of like, oh, I'm having like an off
day with this. She's like, no, I'm having an off day.
I'm gonna go do more of this to make my
(29:07):
to get better quicker.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
She has her cheatmails and stops and then that's it.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
She's very controlled, very very focused. Yeah, dialed in, I
will say though that. So that was in two thousand
and five. She stayed clean. I ended up relapsing. I
got clean in two thousand and eight, but I didn't
see Michelle obviously. Now when I was in the Ryan
House with her, we know we weren't working out or whatever. Right,
I don't know how much she was in the fitness
back then. I mean you.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Were still a little unhealthy back then.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Oh, I was very unhealthy. But for her, I didn't
see her for many years after. And then what happened
was years ago, like probably four or five years ago.
A friend of mine goes, remember Michelle from Ryan House
because he was there too. I go, yeah. He goes,
have you seen her lately? Because she married to Maddie Powers,
And I'm like, really pulled out the picture and showed me.
I was like, oh my god, like ripped.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I'm a lucky guy.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You're a lucky guy, Maddie.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, you're like people showing pictures of your wife.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
See how he steps over them.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I'm saying, because she looks good to relax brow.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
He's talking about but I like to look because I'm
into fitness.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, and gonna kill us.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
All all right? So Power Recovery dot org for addiction stuff, right,
power of Hope.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's power of Hope. M a dot com?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Oh don't forget the dot com?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Why I you'd be that's out of my pay range?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Who designs that?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I I think she just left. Oh, honestly, I think, dude, honestly,
if you want to know the truth, when when we stopped,
we had no idea what we were doing when we
started Power for Recovery, dude, so we just like, oh,
we need a dot org. Like we didn't know, dude.
We just so one said, dude, dot org, and so
we did dot org.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I don't even know that. I don't even know it.
Speaker 10 (30:51):
Wait, Matti, what's the Oh my hey, I swear to god,
he doesn't know the the the radio number, he doesn't
know the actual landline number isn't no.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
It's fine. I listen justin. It's a strange things. He's yeah,
because because he is like like the brains like so
it's tough to take that away. Like I have my
portion of the brains with stuff like remembering some things
and good with numbers like and a few other things
like that I'm really good at like other stuff he's
(31:22):
he's fantastic at too. It's really what's like the dynamic
for us is really what's worked over the years. It's crazy, dude,
like he.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
You guys are a great team.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
He got a great spell too much.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I don't know my where Semi colon goes I don't know.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
No.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And and just so you guys know, in the beginning,
the accounting that we did was Maddy would go, more
has to come in than goes out and we'll be fine.
That is dow is our accounting its level to this day,
my controller will go, I go, prove me wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah, let this business survive if more goes out then
comes in.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I mean it is true, it is true.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, But dude, honestly, I'll be honest with you, like
tip of the cat to the kid, Like he he spaces,
he spends like every week and moment trying to figure
out how to like improve our system and to do
better and to do more for the people that are
coming in the building. So like, honestly, without that, you know,
we're nowhere. We're not Chelsea's house, We're not Power of
recovery're not powerful. None of that's going on without how
(32:17):
crazy his brain gets. It's frustrating at times because it's
like he'll at three in the morning he's texted me like, dude,
I just came up. I'm like, dude, go to bed,
Like what are you doing? But like you know, at
the end of the day, you know we're very fortunate
and all the people, like he said, who's whose lives
we have a small touch and h super fortunate over
his craziness.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I told you that. My wife years ago told me
that one day she goes you know, she works in
addiction recovery, and she said it's well known for her
and the people that actually give a fuck that they
always refer to power of Recovery. That's the one, like
everyone knows them, trust them. Becau, there's a lot of
ship bags out.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Oh dude, it's gross.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
We have our fault.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I can guarantee you there's not a better staff in
the business. The people we have treating our people working
with us. It makes us able to go out and
do odd jobs. Like I told you my sponsors.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I know I was gonna say, you hired your own Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
God damn right.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
But the truth man, when somebody says, who's treating my kid,
the same person who's treating me, And I own the place,
So if his treatment's good enough for me.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
It'll be good enough for him.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, he's right, you know.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Put your mind at ease. I know how people are
being treated right now. I know for a fact, So
I can come sit here and talk to you guys
game and can come sit here.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
We don't have to be over everybody's shoulder. We can
go do what we do.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, And it's literally crazy, like every single person in
the building, like from people that are like essentially quote
unquote doing just billing stuff, like clients walking to their
office and sit down and they wind up having like
a thirty minutes that they'll be sitting there at the
desk because they're having like a tough day, tough moment
and they connected with that person. And and we're so
fortunate to have those people working with us. Man, we're
just super us.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's funny because remember when I first came to visit
and Revere to Power and it was before you you expanded,
and then you were like I remember you told me
you like, yeah, we want to knock down this wall.
It's gonna be all this flour over here. And then
you did it. It's beautiful. So Power of Recovery is
a day center, day treatment center located in Revere, right
Damon Power Recovery dot org or what's the phone number.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
It's eight five seven five six seven six ninety three
seven or fifty six Powers.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
So anybody struggling, needs help, doesn't know what to do,
way to turn they can call yeah, okay. And then
you also have the sober houses. Is that something you
want to know?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's yeah, that's our baby, that's where we started.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, how many do you own?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Thirteen and either open beds always or there's so many
beds and there's rotations.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
People graduate and we get you right in.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Oh really we're full one percent of the time.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah. Marie Santos is a intake coordinated that she's a
general manager. She's phenomenal, but she keeps the flow going
with all the beds. So it's definitely where console have
an applications and a wait list. But like Maddy said,
we have we have so many beds and his flips
throughout the week of people either graduating or unfortunately having
a restart the process that this beds open and she
(35:11):
manages it so well that you know, uh, we like
to have as much time as we can, but usually
within a week or two at the most, we have
somebody in a bed. And sometimes a lot of times.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
If you call that day, sometimes you're in a bed.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
What do they call for that? Is that the same number?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
No, no, that one is seven eight one, six six
six three seven five fine ou.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Wait, so what numbers that?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
That is Chelsea's house office number and I just happen
to remember it.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
We take back everything we say.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
On let me do it again.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
That is seven eight one six six six three seven
five two.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, and you gotta be careful because five three is
the fact.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah. Yeah, And if you want it's Chelsea's house dot
com if you want to go, we have an application
process on there that you can do right online and
then you can call that phone number and talk to
Mari direct. We should manage all of it.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And that's the sober living yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
In that and I'm not being conceited. I'm not I'm
not doooting my own horn. I can guarantee you for
a fact, they're the best sober homes and.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, I can, I can, I can back. I'm not
just saying that because you're on my podcast and like
you know, we work together. That's well known in the
recovery world in New England. Power of Recovery, Chelsea's House,
two great places, Yeah, fantastic and then lastly Power of Hope.
So you know we had that woman asked a question
about she called about her kids teenagers. So this is
(36:33):
kind of out of my realm. So this is more
for parents whose kids are struggling with mental health stuff,
right damon. And so if they need help for that,
where do they go.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
They're going to go to Power of Hope m A
dot com.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Power of Hope m A dot com. Okay, and it
is a day center. Yeah, how does that work? So?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Okay? Yeah, let me give you a little brief quick
thing about that. So where is it? It's Massachusetts, and
so quickly like kids that are struggling, sometimes kids are
struggling to the point where they can't even be in school,
and so they can come there for the full days
from nine in the morning till you know, we're open
till six pm. The other thing is in the state
of Massachusetts, if you get two hours of schooling and
(37:15):
during the day, it's considered a full day. So for
parents that want to still have their kids take get
credit for the full day and still get some of
the assignments and some in person work, they can go
to school from nine to eleven thirty and then come
to us from twelve to six and then still for
the parents that would prefer the kid do the entire
day at school from nine to say, two thirty. They
can still come over to us from three to six.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Ah, I got you.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, so we get it all covered. Yeah, whatever, whatever
they need. We're just trying to source it to the
needs of each individual, just like any other call.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
You talk to the ladies over there and they will
figure something out.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah. But it's open, it's doing good.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Running, it's doing great. A lot of kids.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Wow, Okay, what's the next power of.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
It's something, but we'll really yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Okay, tell me off the air and when it comes
all right, gentlemen, thank you so much. Congrats on everything,
and we'll see you next month. Yes, we'll be Remember
if you have any questions or comments for the guys,
you can send them in. I will save them for January.
When you come back in. You can leave it talk
back on the after show because sore the guys will
love to hear from You's my.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Favorite part of the show. So cool, right, don't be
scared to call them and ask questions.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, yeah, questions, comments, anything you have for the guys,
send them in. I will talk tomorrow. What's tomorrow, Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Tomorrow is Wednesday, that's our anniversary twenty Yeah, twenty one years.
You do something big for Michelle.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
We'll We're going to match Coach for Kids Drive and
Revere Drift tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Oh okay, coach another thing I'm not invited to. Okay,
I go.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
I'm just it's eight o'click. It's like six or seven
at night. You're in bed, dude, Dude, I go to bed.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Seven.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
We're going to dinner and then we're going to Coach
with Kids.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Magin invited me to the anniversary.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, Dame's coming to anniversary dinner with me and my wife.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Oh really, well you want you know, it's a work wife.
He's like your work wife.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
That's what I am.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah. Anyway, bye everybody, Bye bye
All right, pull up here, pull up, we got some
guests in the building. Hi, everybody, it's the After Show podcast.
Maddie Damon Power of Recovery, as teased, are here in
the studio. What's up, gentlemen already know not much, Maddie.
I'm looking at you right now, and I see you
have a power of Hope sweatshirt on. Congrats on the
grand opening that I was not invited to. But it's okay.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Apparently he doesn't have social media. It's broken.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, no, I know we're not really welcome. Did you
see that. I think there was several invice.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
No, I saw a post of everyone celebrating at the facility.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
So you didn't see the month and a half leading
out to and.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So you just don't follow us. And I had my
blinders on it.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Okay, So say that I wasn't paying attention, Maddie.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Sorry I missed you.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, yeah, but it looked amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I think we are the ones who should be offended.
To be honest, I believe he just didn't show up.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
This is not true. See how it turned on you though,
But also, when can I get a power of hope
sweat I'm wearing my power of recovery.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah you so fly in the flag man. We love that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We're gonna have to bring one next month.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I get a lot of compliments on this sweatshirt that
that's a nice it's a really nice one. It fits
me good. I have like three different ones. This one
fits me the best, but the other ones are great.
But I lost a little weight to the Okay, I've
been working.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Hard, guy, I haven't.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Then pepsides, you look fine, you look great. No, dude,
he's eating like a pig.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
It's it's disgusting. Well you would know, yeah, I mean
I'm by his side all the time. I got to
feed him sloppy pizza and eating every day. He ate
like a three and two foot subjest that it was wild.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Are you okay? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Yeah, Well somebody gotta eat breakfast.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Are you hitting the gym at least?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Dude, you're breaking up with these headphones?
Speaker 6 (01:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
No, dude, he's like you. He he's in conjunction. So
if if if it's on, it's on, the eating's proper.
The gym's like. But when it's not, he's like, I'm
gonna eat myself to death. And then hopefully make it
to the gym next month.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I fail that so much.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Yeah over here, like I'm just saying, I look good.
He lives on French fries and pizza.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Still look good.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah. We talked about your diet before. Damon, you're very
similar to my son, who's eight years old. You basically
eat like a child.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I see, I see what you did that, and uh yeah,
I'm not fighting it. I used to, you know, it
used to be a very difficult subject for me, and
Maddie would protect me, like you can't ask Damon about
his food. He's embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
And okay, how about this one? So uh, I don't
know if he announced this at all. But Billy's son
Alex Costa, who everyone most of the people are listening
know he does consulting in the in the addiction community
and does work with you guys on power recovery. Do
you know about his diet or no?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I don't you know. What I know is exactly like you.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No, No, he's not had he never had meat, has
never had steak, has never had any kind of chicken.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I'm sure he said me no straight Waidoh then yeah, yeah,
you think you know somebody.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You know what's crazy. I was on I was on
a zoom meeting with the other day. He's he's all
of that going on, and he's drinking a giant bottle
of Saratoga water like this, like two foot long bodilies
like this. It was, yeah, I know, just like that.
I made sure to let him know what he looked like, like, oh,
I'm sure you never had meat before, bro, Like.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
No, it's a serious it's a serious thing. When they
were when they were he was a kid at Thanksgiving,
he would have a separate little table for himself and
then have to like feed him different food. When he
goes to restaurants, high end ones, he eats first. He's
only ever had pizza, French fries, chicken fingers, bread.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Sounds familiar.
Speaker 7 (03:28):
But I.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Have a new best friend, haha, Maddie.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, I'm on the outs with I always find myself
on the outs.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
You know what, though, like we can this is one
thing and you call it whatever you want to call it.
But when we go somewhere, he can he I can
sit down, I go to the bathroom, I can show
up late, and he can order my whole meal phone.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well, he knows you, Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I
know you can identify with this YouTube, Damon, but you
Maddie with the food thing. So I feel like when
I go off right, when I feel like I'm gonna
eat fucking ship food, this thing, this addiction kicks in,
and I'm like, I want to fucking eat myself to death,
Like I want to eat until I hate myself, and
(04:08):
then I do, and then I hate myself.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I welcome and identify. I told said it in a
meeting the other night. I can make anything unhealthy my
sick brain. I can make broccoli unhealthy. I can use
it to where it will hurts you.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Me too, It's horrible, me too, me too. Imagine imagine
living with me, my wife.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's my greatest strength and my greatest weakness is my
disease of addiction.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, it is kind of a superpower, but it can
also hold us back to That's how it is. If
you allow it, if you allow it, if.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You allow it, we now knowingly do that.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah, I know the result, and I say, ah, whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Listen, We're going to do it to this date and
then I'm gonna stop. And normally I can.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I pretty much cut.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It down Yeah, Well, we're continuously working on ourselves an
incurable disease, as we've talked about many times on this podcast. Okay,
so Power of Hope is open. It's a a adolescent
facility outpatient for you for you for mental health, yes right, yes,
and you obviously have Power of Recovery, which is addiction
treatments for adults. While so you have the adults here
(05:13):
and the kids here, but the kids is more for
the mental.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It is it is.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, we're trying to we're trying to help get into
that with them before they stop the kind of stuff
that him and I did, the self medication and all
the other things. So we know there was a lot
of underlying causes things that you know, him and I
probably could have had someone talking to I'm sure you
could added someone talking to us about before we went
a little bit off the tracks. We want to try
and you know, help get us out on that before
(05:38):
anyone's going too far off the track.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah. The last time you were here, I think you
were about to open. You had because when was the
opening date recently?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Right, it's been open probably about a month. I don't
know the exact date.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's far closer to two months.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But yeah, so it's been open two months.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, it's just Jamie.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
I wanted to thank you for having the Power of
Recovery guys on your show yesterday. I reached out and
have a call with one of the therapists from Power
of Hope today for my children. The teenagers need some
support in that area, and I just appreciate all that
(06:24):
they've done and I'm excited for this next chapter.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So thank you.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Wow, yeah, Sarah, she's glowing.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
That's amazing, man.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
That just made me feel good.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Thank you to just Jamie and for letting us know that,
and obviously to you justin we had I mean, you
don't know. We just do what we do and you
know it when it impacts people, it's it's it's a
lot of tumbling, man.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Well that's the thing about what you guys do, right,
So obviously you know you've started this amazing thing from
Power Recovery, not Power of Hope. You have tons of
sober houses and all that stuff, and it's what you
do for a living, right, that's what you do. But
also the other side of his you're helping people, right,
and so you must get that feeling over and over again.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I wish it was more often than not with power.
Hope you do get that feeling now more often than
you don't. Like just hearing that woman there, it just
made me feel some kind of way wow, dealing.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
With the other stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
You know how the statistics are so like, you feel bad,
you feel bad.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
What's the number, by the way, off the top of
your head that make it compared that don't? Is there no.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Idea, but sitting in this room, it's one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Wow, if you really think of it, one hundred percent
of us made it today today.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Today.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
The best feeling is to watch somebody come in broken
and empty and ashamed, and then you know how time goes.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
It's so fast.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And then four years later you see the man or
woman and they get their kids back, they have a job,
they have their own living situation, and like they're just regular, normal,
active members of society.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, I had a tiny pot in that.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yep, Yep, it's amazing. It's amazing. By the way, I
really like the post you guys put up on Instagram.
You didn't see this, Maddy, did you see it? Damon
of me? It went up on the Power of Recovery
Instagram yesterday it's me on stage when I spoke to Boston,
and it has the quote it was I Really. I
got a lot of good feedback on that post, so
thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But recently, how about this, right? So recently, I had
a best friend growing up that I used with. Okay,
and when I got clean, he didn't, So I had
to separate myself because I kept relapsing with him. Childhood
best friend, right, think about someone in your life.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
I have it.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, So we have not been friends since I've seen
him here or there, but he never got clean. Really sad, right.
I love him to death and I'm still waiting for
that day when he'll get clean. But when we were younger,
growing up, he had a younger brother that was like
five or six years younger, and the brother hated me
because he blamed me for his older brother's addictions. He
felt like I was the one taking him out. I
(08:56):
mean I had a part in it, but obviously his
own life, he chose to do whatever, so he always
hated me. Okay. Now fast forward to about a couple
of weeks ago. I wake up in the morning and
I have a message on Facebook. I'm not friends with
him on Facebook. But it comes in. I open it
and it's from the brother, and the brother says, I
remember you. I fucking hate you. I fucking hate you.
(09:20):
I've always hated you. You're the biggest piece of shit.
You owe me an apology all in caps, And so
I open it and look at it, and I'm like, first
reaction is anger. I'm like, this motherfucker, does he know
who the fuck I am?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
And so then I get dressed and I'm thinking about
I didn't respond yet. I'm thinking about what I'm gonna respond.
So I drive all the way to work and I'm thinking,
and I'm thinking about it's festering. And I get almost
to work and then I start the recovery kicks in
right the seeing the other side of things, the playing
the tape through. And I thought to myself, what if
he doesn't know that I'm clean? Because my ego told
(09:55):
me I'm the radio guy. How does he not know?
And I go, but what if he does? And what
if whatever? So I said, you know what, I'm gonna
do the opposite. So I got here to work like
three in the morning, and I wrote this message to him,
and I go, hey, it's so good to hear from you.
I hope things are well. I don't know if you
know this about me, but I've been clean for seventeen
years now. I have a family. I didn't think about
where I work or anything. I just I have a family,
(10:17):
and I just want to say I'm sorry for anything
that I did in my past. Never meant to hurt you.
And he wrote back instantly. He was up and he
wrote back and he goes, oh my god, he goes,
thank you for responding. I had no idea. I'm so
proud of you. I didn't know you were clean. And
he goes, just so you know, my dad's dying in
the hospital and he only has a couple of days
to live. So I'm really emotional right now. And you
(10:38):
showed up on my Facebook. Dude lives in Canada, doesn't
even fucking live here, had no idea where I was.
I popped up on it. He was probably he sent
it home crying and upset, and I showed up on
his people you may know, and he was like, fuck
this kid, right, But that's the change in recovery, right,
that's the step work. That's the work that we do. Right.
Playing the tape through before the reaction. Does he know
who I am? You know what I mean? I would
(11:00):
have responded that way. Amazing.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
So two people in my life do that to me,
Damon and my wife. When a bad text comes through,
please put the phone down because instantly I want to
spit best and I want to hurt that person and
moralize them, and I want to win. Yep, you gotta
have that pause. I never had it. Yeah, I do
now way better. Damon's good at it. Damon processes everything
(11:26):
to the point where it aggravates the shit out of it,
Like I'm waiting for a fight. Yeah, and he's processing.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I'm like, when's this kick going to kick?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
So you should have a rule, you too, right, madd
You should have a rule where before you respond to anything,
you run it by Damon.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, that's pretty much the rule. It's already there. I
mean he tried.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I tried, but some of them slipped through the.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I say to listen. I say, I'll go to him. Hey, dude,
what's that going to get? He goes about twelve seconds
of pure bliss and then I know it's trash after that,
But for like twelve to fifteen seconds, I'm going to
feel fantastic.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, but it also knows that if he does do that,
you're gonna be there to pick up the pieces, Damon.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Sometimes it's still hard for me.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, I'm not gonna bulche it.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Like I texted Damon on his birthday and then I
texted them like a couple of days later, and I'm like, you, guys,
good for coming in for the podcast. I just text
Damon because Damon's the one that knows.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Though, here we go, all right, let's say from the people.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Yeah, okay, I just listened to the podcast with the
Power of Recovery. Guys, I've never been in recovery and
I don't know anyone, but I very much enjoy listening
to them. But this podcast, I realize you are a
next level you, meaning Justin are a next level of crazy.
So if you have your wife on, you definitely need
(12:40):
to have her share how she deals with all of
your ocdnis.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Lol.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Love listening, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Or we could have Maddie's wife on.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Oh you'll just have a competition of which one's more
OCD between.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Her and Justin.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, and there no not at.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
All this story, not even a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, he has to. He has to slide the lint
role in a specific direction for a certain amount of
time on each shirt every few minutes.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
You're a clean freak.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Not really, but I don't like.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I like.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Dude. You can't do that. You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Buddy, It's okay you don't.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, dude, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I have my own corks. Damon probably has. Let's get Damon.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yes, let's get Katie down here.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, good luck.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, what's she going to say? We all have stuff
going on. Trust we trust me.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
By justin Hi, Damon, Hi, Maddie. I have a loved
one in PHP and attending sober living and they have
no job and no money. I am supporting them financially
and it is becoming draining. And I was wondering if
it is a good idea for this person to get
a job while they're in this recovery process, or if
(13:59):
they should just focus on recovery. I'm just not sure
what to do anymore, and I would appreciate your guidance.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, guidance man.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Two sides to that, though, When you say, big guy one.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
You don't want to rush somebody right back into the
forty hour work week stress them out any more than
they have to.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But at some point they have responsibility.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
You know what they say for guys like us early on,
depending on where they are in the program and and
stuff like that, Like some of them are in patient
programs and they want to get what's called the get
well jump, where you might not like fly back into
your career if you were a career person or you
know it, we're in a high stress environment, but you
get something that will kind of help cover a little bit.
You work in a little pot time job that you
(14:41):
know you can make a couple hundred bucks a week
to ease the burden on the family. But again, it's
like Maddie said, and like you're saying, justin there's a
lot to it because you've got to figure out where
they are in program, how much clean time they have,
and how it's going to impact their recovery, because at
the end of it, you cannot do anything unless you
are clean and sober first.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Right social way, she said, he was in PHP sober living.
What's that?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I know?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Sober living is.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
So it's essentially what we do, right, Like, so, Power
of Recovery is a PHP. It's it's it stands for
partial hospitalization. It's basically day treatment that you go to
for a few hours during the day and then you know,
you live in in sober living.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Uh oh, I got you. So he's in both. He
goes to a day program and then lives in sober living.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It's just where he lives.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and what she's talking about is
is you know, sober living costs money. It's not something
like if you're in an inpatient program, all of it's
under one roof and it's and it's all covered right.
When you go into an outpatient program and you go
into a separate sober living, you have to pay for
the sober living There's different scholarships and stuff available too.
She should you know, if if if she's interested, we
(15:46):
can we might be able to help her out with
some more information to help figure out uh, you know,
a scholarship or something to help with the sober living
portion of it and stuff like that. So uh, she
can definitely give us a call, give me a call
and just call.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The office ask for him and they'll get the message
to him.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
What's the number, so uh for power They're gonna call
eight five seven five six seven six nights three seven.
I can't help, but it's eight five seven fifty six.
Power call us over there. You know, just mentioned mentioned
the podcast, mentioned that you heard us on there and
you had some information trying to get some assistance for you.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Loved one asked an answer it it's called the get
well job. Usually said it was for me. I sold
whale watch tickets down by the aquarium. That was in
the Ryan Hush.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I sold sell by the sea show.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, that's what I did. I stood a little booth
and sold whale whale watch tickets. That's what it was.
A get well job.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Was it at least as summertime?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It was? No, it wasn't actually well. No, it was
like fall, summer fall somewhere.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
That's not terrible in Boston.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's not bad.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
Hi, justin you're doing a great job on your podcast.
I love listening to your inspiration and your talks about addiction.
Wondering how you're going to talk to your kids about addiction.
Where you and your wife are, you know, recovering addicts.
How does that look for you? Like what advice can
you give to people parents who have you know, little children,
(17:10):
Our children are teens that might get influenced in that way. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, I saved this question for when you guys were
in that you could answer. Good luck.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I'm the only one. I'm the only one I can
answer right now. I got I recently found some vape
and weed pens on in my kids my old.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Way, so damon. So people should know you have four kids?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Are they fourteen? I hope I get this right? Fourteen, nine,
five and four? Wow?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think so this is the fourteen year old?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah, I hope it's not nine year old?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Would hope?
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
So you know, it was a few weeks ago, some whatever,
some weird thing happened. It was all the way it's
supposed to be, right, But it was discovered because my
phone was in a different room and I went into
my kids room and I found like he had stuffed
them somewhere, and I just happened upon it, and uh,
you know, so I grabbed my wife. I talked to
her and it's it's scary, man, it's not easy. And
(18:05):
for me personally, I just went about it. I think
a little differently than than some people do. I wasn't
in the yelling, screaming I'm gonna beat my kid up
kind of mode. It was. It was just like, all right,
here's the situation. What am I going to do? How
am I going to respond to it? And I had
a very calm and informative conversation with my wife and
(18:26):
and him and just told him, like, listen, dude, my
job is to protect you, and right now I got
to protect you from yourself. You're not making good decisions.
I took away a lot of his freedom with having
a cell phone and being able to go out and
and you know, told him that we'd be monitoring stuff
and wanted to provide him as much information as I could.
Myself and my wife are both in recovery, so we
told him he's a little bit behind the eight ball
(18:48):
when it comes to stuff like this that you know, uh,
he might be in a probably a potentially bad genetic
disposition being that where you know, everybody related to him
as a little bit of that in him. And and
then you know, I'll be honest with you. Is one
of the best things I could have done. Over the
next few weeks, I saw my son kind of return,
Like you know, he was a fourteen year ol kids
want to spend time around his family to begin with,
(19:09):
but he would either be out on his bike all
afternoon after he got home from school, which is cool,
but then he'd come home, go in his room, be
on his phone, come out for a meal, go back
to his room. We took all those things away from him,
and now he's like participating. He's being a big brother again,
he's a son. Like it's really it's really cool to watch.
So I think it was an error in our ways
(19:30):
that we didn't know until it was probably a little
bit too late, and that you know, kind of maintaining
some boundaries with some different freedoms that he had and
then when the conversation comes up, just inform and I'm like,
I told myself, dude, no matter what y'all gonna you
could still have friends at school. He's in high school, Like,
I'm sure there's other kids with weed pens in there.
There's there's other times he's gonna not be with us
(19:50):
that he's gonna have to make some decisions in those situations,
and and I'm hoping he has enough information and enough
way with all and strength to be able to to
make the right decision. And at the end of the day,
I don't honestly know if he's gonna be me either.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I mean, I mean he could. But here's the thing, right, Like,
I think that one of the best things we can
do for our kids is to be present. But on
the other hand, you know, you have four kids, if
you have multiple kids, even one kid, the bustle of life,
you know what I mean, You're very busy, so you're
present for your kids, but you can't watch everything that
they do, you know. And that's that's why when you
(20:25):
said that about maybe you should have done a better
job of, like whatever, catching it before it happened. You know,
I understand that because you know, days go by, you
know what I mean, and like, you know, you just
you try to keep track and then you know you
can't always keep track of everything they're doing. But I
wanted to ask, Damon, does he know your story, you
and your wife, your history? Yeah, how much of that
(20:45):
did you tell him?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I mean, I don't I don't really hide anything. I
don't think he knows specific details about about you know,
all this stuff, but he definitely knows without a doubt.
We have had conversations with them surrounding you know, our history,
hour story, and you know, how could how could you
know how that could potentially impact him. And again he
was informed and it's all real recent. He went from
(21:07):
you know, he never picked up a vape to to
you know, he had a vape and then he had
weed bends. So it's you know what I mean. It
was a quick transition for us, far faster than we
thought any of this stuff was was happening, was going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
But you remember these days, those days being young at school,
all all the kids.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
The difference is, I told him, I said, when I
was a kid, we used to have that. We stunk
like weed. We didn't have edibles, we didn't have weed pens.
We didn't We had to make weed brownies in my
house to get edibles. Like there was no you know
what I mean. Like and I go ahead and try
and work that thing in a house where it's not allowed.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
But you guys are vote kids, right, Both went to
the vote in Wakefield.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, sure do.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I went to eleven schools in twelve nice los.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I graduated from the garage in Malden School in the basement.
So my son is eight years old. I never I
had no plans on talking to him about my past.
And for a couple more years, but Uh. Some kid
in the neighborhood showed him my news thing that they
did on me, which was upsetting to me because you know,
(22:08):
it was nice. But he had some questions. So I
had a conversation with him.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
That's how mine came out right around the same thing.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I never she had any My kids didn't know what
I did for work, none of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
They knew I helped people in houses. And then I
was on the That was the cover of the newspaper.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
They showed a picture of me strung out and the
picture of me clean.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
The writing said, nurse and a vicious heroin addiction.
Speaker 10 (22:33):
Oh my god, what's jad Is he gonna die?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Well?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I know the picture. It's one of you.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Now, like they know that, I don't go into detail
on anything I did. Now he's a little older and
he wants a couple like risky stories, So like between
me and Michelle, will tell him a couple of stories.
But just like damon my two kids. I see the
isms all over.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, the one more kids one?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
How about this one? You're doing something and not being
in the present.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
They want to be somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
What's next?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
O're the worst, the worst.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
So, like I already see it, like it obviously scares
you to death. And if this woman calling in knows
little to nothing about addiction and this is what we
do and it's scaring us, imagine for a regular person.
So my advice would be.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It's just education, education, education.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Saturday night, he's sleeping out my phone rings, it's ten thirty.
My son's thirteen. Here's the question, Dad, Yeah, painkiller is addictive.
I go, shit, yeah, And then I hear him tell
his buddy yelling I told you, I told you in
their research and his stuff, and tell them alcohols are drugs, right,
(23:51):
I go, yeah, drug?
Speaker 5 (23:53):
He goes, I told you. I go, hey, he goes
what I go, so at sugar? Yeah, gony.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
So like he educated on the fact, knock on wood.
I don't think he's done that yet. I know it's
a yet.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm not stupid. None of us are stupid.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Kids are gonna experiment, and just because they're experimenting don't
mean they're gonna end up homeless on the street like us.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Three Yeah, dude, And that's what I'm saying too about
my kid. At the end of the day, I think
he's in a toughest spot than other kids. But you know,
again diving in personally, I have a ton of nieces
and nephews and a bunch of my older nieces and nephews.
They recreate, Yeah, man, they don't. They live professional lives
and and good healthy lives. They get children they like,
(24:39):
and they drink a little bit. They might smoke a little.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Week and alcohol were made for you.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah you know what I mean. Like so, you know,
but again some of that early intervention in the education.
No matter what, at the end of the day, as
a parent, your kid is gonna be forced into some decisions.
And the best you can do, I think it is,
you know, being present and then also you know, making
sure that they don't feel uncomfortable coming to talk to
you like they you can't, I don't think personally. I
(25:04):
want my children to be able to come tell me
anything in their worst or best situation. I want to
be their first phone call, you know what I mean. So,
no matter what they don't like, oh my god, Dad's
gonna kill me, Oh my god, Ma's gonna come. I
don't want any of my kids to think like that.
I want them to know, no matter what they're dealing
with their parents. Are the safe place we do.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
We do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, ye, open communications.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I think he talks to my wife too much.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, yeah, what do you say. We had lunch and
meet him and and and his wife and you know,
Michelle and his oldest and I was like, oh that
was yeah, that was that was fun.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
That was different because you're not used to coming from that.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
I don't talk to my parents.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I'm telling you, he's the kids, he's had kids. Mini
Maddie though, Dude, he's cracking jokes. He's he could wind
up being a stand up comedian and as a team dude,
justin hilarious.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Dude, is it interesting that you and your wife both
in recovery? Dame and your wife both in recovery? Me
and my wife?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Well, you go back to the statistics.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I think all statistics are bullshit because that's not supposed
to last either.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
So now it's sitting in this room. There's three of
us now the taro left.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah, all three of clean today. All three have successful relationships.
So what bat in a thousand in this wild true?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Oh speaking? Which can we are we allowed to mention
that the missus got uh oh got one twenty one
years imagine?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Oh really wait hold let me do the math here. Okay,
So I was in a sola house with with Maddie's
wife twenty one years.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Can we talk? Can we unpack that? Or don't know that?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
So?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, because it was two thousand and five, we were
in the house together. Yeah, so I was in Okay, So.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
So one of your stayed clean?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yes, yes, so I was in jail. I got paroled
out to the Kingston House, which had a shelter.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Oh that's my spot case. Yeah, I love that place.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So then I was looking for solo houses to go in,
and in my head I was like, oh, I have
to go to the Link House or these houses that
were they had long waiting lists and you couldn't get
into right, And the only one that got accepted to
was the Ryan House, which is on Green Show and
not in the best area, right, but it was a
co head house house. So I thought I'm gonna go.
(27:20):
So I went and it did work for me. I
did stay clean for a little while after that. But
when I went there, Michelle, who was Maddie's wife, was
there and she had been there for like three or
four months and she fucking ran the house.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
No, she was not a surprise, dude, she changed.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
It was insane, Like I don't even like, no one
fucked with her.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
She does not play when it comes to recovery. And
and that dude she's literally with me and him would
just look up at her like, oh my god, like wow,
Like I get.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
To take my hat off to her when it comes
to the recovery stuff. You know how we veer off
course every now and then, and you have recovery to
a roller coaster.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
She don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, you don't miss noticeable.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
She's the adult in relationships. She's the adult for all
of us.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah. And she's also a fitness nut.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Unbelievable dude.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, Like I follow on Instagram, Like she's in the
gym every morning, four am routine. Then she does a
walk later on in the day.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yes, I got a I got one hundreds. And she
can suppressed Maddie right now.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Oh definitely.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
No, she's like for the people listening right now when
I say she's like, she's fucking ripped, just say what right, damon, dude,
she is.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
She's it's you know, not to get a little you know,
uh hair, nothing, but she looks good.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
He's about to step over.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
No, no, no, no, she she does a lot of
work on her body.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
She's beautiful. She's beautiful, but from a fitness standpoint. And
I did see yesterday. I think she was mail prepping
Maddie all of our meals. Yeahs, subs.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
She would dude in a happy she'd jump right in
and dude, don't get me wrong, he'll do it himself.
She would do it too. But when he's ready, he's ready,
and he does it, but she doesn't. There's no what
he's doing right, there's no what any of the three
of us of like, oh, I'm having like an off
day with this. She's like, no, I'm having an off day.
I'm gonna go do more of this to make my
(29:07):
to get better quicker.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
She has her cheatmails and stops and then that's it.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
She's very controlled, very very focused. Yeah, dialed in, I
will say though that. So that was in two thousand
and five. She stayed clean. I ended up relapsing. I
got clean in two thousand and eight, but I didn't
see Michelle obviously. Now when I was in the Ryan
House with her, we know we weren't working out or whatever. Right,
I don't know how much she was in the fitness
back then. I mean you.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Were still a little unhealthy back then.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Oh, I was very unhealthy. But for her, I didn't
see her for many years after. And then what happened
was years ago, like probably four or five years ago.
A friend of mine goes, remember Michelle from Ryan House
because he was there too. I go, yeah. He goes,
have you seen her lately? Because she married to Maddie Powers,
And I'm like, really pulled out the picture and showed me.
I was like, oh my god, like ripped.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I'm a lucky guy.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You're a lucky guy, Maddie.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, you're like people showing pictures of your wife.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
See how he steps over them.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I'm saying, because she looks good to relax brow.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
He's talking about but I like to look because I'm
into fitness.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, and gonna kill us.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
All all right? So Power Recovery dot org for addiction stuff, right,
power of Hope.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's power of Hope. M a dot com?
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Oh don't forget the dot com?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Why I you'd be that's out of my pay range?
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Who designs that?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I I think she just left. Oh, honestly, I think, dude, honestly,
if you want to know the truth, when when we stopped,
we had no idea what we were doing when we
started Power for Recovery, dude, so we just like, oh,
we need a dot org. Like we didn't know, dude.
We just so one said, dude, dot org, and so
we did dot org.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I don't even know that. I don't even know it.
Speaker 10 (30:51):
Wait, Matti, what's the Oh my hey, I swear to god,
he doesn't know the the the radio number, he doesn't
know the actual landline number isn't no.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
It's fine. I listen justin. It's a strange things. He's yeah,
because because he is like like the brains like so
it's tough to take that away. Like I have my
portion of the brains with stuff like remembering some things
and good with numbers like and a few other things
like that I'm really good at like other stuff he's
(31:22):
he's fantastic at too. It's really what's like the dynamic
for us is really what's worked over the years. It's crazy, dude,
like he.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
You guys are a great team.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
He got a great spell too much.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
I don't know my where Semi colon goes I don't know.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
No.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And and just so you guys know, in the beginning,
the accounting that we did was Maddy would go, more
has to come in than goes out and we'll be fine.
That is dow is our accounting its level to this day,
my controller will go, I go, prove me wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah, let this business survive if more goes out then
comes in.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I mean it is true, it is true.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, But dude, honestly, I'll be honest with you, like
tip of the cat to the kid, Like he he spaces,
he spends like every week and moment trying to figure
out how to like improve our system and to do
better and to do more for the people that are
coming in the building. So like, honestly, without that, you know,
we're nowhere. We're not Chelsea's house, We're not Power of
recovery're not powerful. None of that's going on without how
(32:17):
crazy his brain gets. It's frustrating at times because it's
like he'll at three in the morning he's texted me like, dude,
I just came up. I'm like, dude, go to bed,
Like what are you doing? But like you know, at
the end of the day, you know we're very fortunate
and all the people, like he said, who's whose lives
we have a small touch and h super fortunate over
his craziness.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I told you that. My wife years ago told me
that one day she goes you know, she works in
addiction recovery, and she said it's well known for her
and the people that actually give a fuck that they
always refer to power of Recovery. That's the one, like
everyone knows them, trust them. Becau, there's a lot of
ship bags out.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Oh dude, it's gross.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
We have our fault.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I can guarantee you there's not a better staff in
the business. The people we have treating our people working
with us. It makes us able to go out and
do odd jobs. Like I told you my sponsors.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I know I was gonna say, you hired your own Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
God damn right.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
But the truth man, when somebody says, who's treating my kid,
the same person who's treating me, And I own the place,
So if his treatment's good enough for me.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
It'll be good enough for him.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, he's right, you know.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
Put your mind at ease. I know how people are
being treated right now. I know for a fact, So
I can come sit here and talk to you guys
game and can come sit here.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
We don't have to be over everybody's shoulder. We can
go do what we do.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, And it's literally crazy, like every single person in
the building, like from people that are like essentially quote
unquote doing just billing stuff, like clients walking to their
office and sit down and they wind up having like
a thirty minutes that they'll be sitting there at the
desk because they're having like a tough day, tough moment
and they connected with that person. And and we're so
fortunate to have those people working with us. Man, we're
just super us.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's funny because remember when I first came to visit
and Revere to Power and it was before you you expanded,
and then you were like I remember you told me
you like, yeah, we want to knock down this wall.
It's gonna be all this flour over here. And then
you did it. It's beautiful. So Power of Recovery is
a day center, day treatment center located in Revere, right
Damon Power Recovery dot org or what's the phone number.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
It's eight five seven five six seven six ninety three
seven or fifty six Powers.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
So anybody struggling, needs help, doesn't know what to do,
way to turn they can call yeah, okay. And then
you also have the sober houses. Is that something you
want to know?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's yeah, that's our baby, that's where we started.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, how many do you own?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Thirteen and either open beds always or there's so many
beds and there's rotations.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
People graduate and we get you right in.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Oh really we're full one percent of the time.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah. Marie Santos is a intake coordinated that she's a
general manager. She's phenomenal, but she keeps the flow going
with all the beds. So it's definitely where console have
an applications and a wait list. But like Maddy said,
we have we have so many beds and his flips
throughout the week of people either graduating or unfortunately having
a restart the process that this beds open and she
(35:11):
manages it so well that you know, uh, we like
to have as much time as we can, but usually
within a week or two at the most, we have
somebody in a bed. And sometimes a lot of times.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
If you call that day, sometimes you're in a bed.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
What do they call for that? Is that the same number?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
No, no, that one is seven eight one, six six
six three seven five fine ou.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Wait, so what numbers that?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
That is Chelsea's house office number and I just happen
to remember it.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
We take back everything we say.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
On let me do it again.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
That is seven eight one six six six three seven
five two.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, and you gotta be careful because five three is
the fact.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah. Yeah, And if you want it's Chelsea's house dot
com if you want to go, we have an application
process on there that you can do right online and
then you can call that phone number and talk to
Mari direct. We should manage all of it.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And that's the sober living yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
In that and I'm not being conceited. I'm not I'm
not doooting my own horn. I can guarantee you for
a fact, they're the best sober homes and.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, I can, I can, I can back. I'm not
just saying that because you're on my podcast and like
you know, we work together. That's well known in the
recovery world in New England. Power of Recovery, Chelsea's House,
two great places, Yeah, fantastic and then lastly Power of Hope.
So you know we had that woman asked a question
about she called about her kids teenagers. So this is
(36:33):
kind of out of my realm. So this is more
for parents whose kids are struggling with mental health stuff,
right damon. And so if they need help for that,
where do they go.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
They're going to go to Power of Hope m A
dot com.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Power of Hope m A dot com. Okay, and it
is a day center. Yeah, how does that work? So?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Okay? Yeah, let me give you a little brief quick
thing about that. So where is it? It's Massachusetts, and
so quickly like kids that are struggling, sometimes kids are
struggling to the point where they can't even be in school,
and so they can come there for the full days
from nine in the morning till you know, we're open
till six pm. The other thing is in the state
of Massachusetts, if you get two hours of schooling and
(37:15):
during the day, it's considered a full day. So for
parents that want to still have their kids take get
credit for the full day and still get some of
the assignments and some in person work, they can go
to school from nine to eleven thirty and then come
to us from twelve to six and then still for
the parents that would prefer the kid do the entire
day at school from nine to say, two thirty. They
can still come over to us from three to six.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Ah, I got you.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, so we get it all covered. Yeah, whatever, whatever
they need. We're just trying to source it to the
needs of each individual, just like any other call.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
You talk to the ladies over there and they will
figure something out.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah. But it's open, it's doing good.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Running, it's doing great. A lot of kids.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Wow, Okay, what's the next power of.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
It's something, but we'll really yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Okay, tell me off the air and when it comes
all right, gentlemen, thank you so much. Congrats on everything,
and we'll see you next month. Yes, we'll be Remember
if you have any questions or comments for the guys,
you can send them in. I will save them for January.
When you come back in. You can leave it talk
back on the after show because sore the guys will
love to hear from You's my.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Favorite part of the show. So cool, right, don't be
scared to call them and ask questions.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, yeah, questions, comments, anything you have for the guys,
send them in. I will talk tomorrow. What's tomorrow, Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Tomorrow is Wednesday, that's our anniversary twenty Yeah, twenty one years.
You do something big for Michelle.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
We'll We're going to match Coach for Kids Drive and
Revere Drift tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Oh okay, coach another thing I'm not invited to. Okay,
I go.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
I'm just it's eight o'click. It's like six or seven
at night. You're in bed, dude, Dude, I go to bed.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Seven.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
We're going to dinner and then we're going to Coach
with Kids.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Magin invited me to the anniversary.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, Dame's coming to anniversary dinner with me and my wife.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Oh really, well you want you know, it's a work wife.
He's like your work wife.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
That's what I am.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah. Anyway, bye everybody, Bye bye
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