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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hold on, I want to know the doc of rock.
Look at this. I want to tell you someundthing. When
I heard this news, I actually said to myself, this
cannot be true. This guy works like four hours a day.
Why the hell would he quit that push job that
(00:22):
he has, the man who invented rock radio and for
so many years fifty years? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Or is it years fifty years with very little downtime.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Either this guy has gotten them the name. You don't
get the name the dock of rock without being literally
a legend. Doug Podell is retiring and the announcement was
made this morning live on his radio station that that
he's on one oh six seven Wheels w LZ. But
this guy's been associated with so many different call letters.
(00:57):
I think of these call letters and how you know,
I kind of they are W four the w Riff, which,
by the way, you built and made that station. Those
guys owe you some money right now, because they wouldn't
be where they are right now if it wasn't for you.
As well as you made some stops in other cities too.
You made some stops in Minneapolis, you made some stops
(01:19):
in Cleveland. Am I right in saying this, Doug were
you were you Howard's boss at one point? Yes, and
you guys had a little adversarial type of a relationship too. Well.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, but he told me that I was part of
the bit, so you know, to go along with it.
But we were actually friends at W four, yeah, six
point seven when he was here in Detroit, and when
he launched his syndication, he was looking for guys, at
least I think he was looking for guys that believed
in freedom of speech. You had to have that first,
(01:50):
or you just couldn't you couldn't deal with the situation.
So we were the third affiliate in Cleveland, and they
brought me in there to basically launch this thing and
help launch the syndication and you know, work with the
consultants to you know, get more stations for Howard. And
in the interim, we went number one and decimated America's
(02:16):
rock station, which was WMMS at the time, and we
went number one and had that his final funeral, which
was this one hundred thousand dollars concert that we threw
where he had Heidi Fleie there and you know, David
Lee Roth and America and of course Howard and all
(02:36):
of the Minions and Elephant Boy and Stuttering John, and
it was probably one of the greatest rock moments or
moments in radio for me. Really, the whole story of
not only going to Cleveland, but launching Howard and all
the things that happened to between, but then the funeral
(02:58):
and the wire cutting that happened.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, explain that. You guys got to hear this one.
The wire cutting.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So you know, we were broadcasting live, and the competition
really felt that they could stop it, and they did
several things to try and stop it, including I got
a call from the FAA saying that there's a plane
about to fly overhead with water and they were going
to drop it on us on twenty thousand people who
(03:26):
were there for this concert. And I said, well, if
they do that, you know, they'll lose their license forever.
And the FAA and the plane company actually decided not
to do it, you know, they weren't going to let
them do it. And so an engineer and I expected
(03:47):
something from this station and these people. So I had
plane codes, plane closed people everywhere, including right there by
this one little wire just like this that attached to
the building, to the trailer, and the engineer walked, snipped
it and then tried to head right to the edge
(04:09):
of the water there because we were in the flats
and throw his stuff away, and he they took him down.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
They cut the wire to stop the broadcast, to stop
the broadcast in.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The contistic you know, and within five minutes we had
the broadcast back up because we were ready, and uh,
there was there was some hell to pay for that, Mojo.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Have you heard from him since his retirement announcement.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Since the news came out? As Howard contacted contact you know,
we'll talk about it. He always does.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, I do get texts on occasion. Yeah, and they'll say,
Doug Howard's talking about you and he likes you.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I actually used to say to Doug all the time
because I I would listen to Howard and I would
hear that all the time and hear them talk about you.
And then I also wondered your relationship with Drew and
Mike because you came into RIFF and you were Drewing
Mike's boss. Yeah, you were the program director of RIFF
right and and honestly, eighteen years, the biggest numbers, the
(05:19):
biggest ratings that that station has ever had is under
the helm of Doug Podell the dock of Rock with
twenty something shares and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well, it was bigger than I ever imagined.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, for sure. How'd you get that name? Does somebody
give you that name or did you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, I was at W four, which was one six
point seven, and I was full time.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I was doing ten to two at.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Night when they had the four hour shifts and Sky
Daniels I don't know if you remember his name, but
he went on to the Loop and you know, he
was pretty famous and he was great, okay, and he goes, Doug,
you know, it was one Saturday afternoon, we were there
early year, and he goes, you know, you're missing something,
(06:04):
and I'm worried for you that they're going to let
you go. And I'm thinking, oh, man, what does he know?
Because he was a music director, so he was behind
the closed door, you know. And he goes, do you
have a nickname at all? And I said, well, well,
back in college at W A.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Y N.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
They used to call me the good doctor.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So, for some various reasons that we.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Won't get, were you were you a female doctor? Is
that what I'm college.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Street?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Okay, song about a nickelbag.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I look at you, Doug, and I got to tell
you something. The thing I don't this is I don't
get you are a great storyteller, and you can tell
a story. And it's the art of telling a story
over a fifteen second to twenty five second or thirty
second intro is lost because it's so hard to do.
(07:16):
But you did not deserve twenty five thirty seconds. You
deserved this, like the conversation, why did you ever never
try to do just do mornings or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I can't get up that tough time right now.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I see your wife would kick your ass out of bed,
and that's what my wife does. She just says it's
time to go to work. You know, you got to go.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I never really had a solid shift because I was
programming too, you know. So I did middays when I
was at RIFF yeah, because Arthur was there, so I
wasn't kicking Arthur out.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Of his Arthur P. Do you know who Arthur P is?
I've heard right. So you guys are all the younger
and stuff like that. Arthur P was a legend. The
guy made a living off of going baby yeah on
the radio. Well, I mean in saying baby.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
When he goes on Facebook right now it says bab
he gets three thousand likes baby.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, that's amazing likes. You know, so legend.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That was kind of part of uh my career was
working with legends.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I worked with Steve.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Doll for a while, Jay Jams or you know, I
hired them from Riff to come to Wheels.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So we were in gridlock.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Much like we are today.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And and we needed to make a change. And uh,
you know, we were looking for a morning show. And
I called Jim because he hired me at W four
full time, and I said, are you guys, are you
guys interested in you know, coming over here? And he goes, well,
we're having difficulty with our contract right now.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
He goes, it's perfect timing. So wow. A lot of
people their jobs to you, Doug, Doug, their jobs speaking questions.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
The one thing that as a PD though, and not
just to DJ. Yeah, uh, you do have to make decisions. Yeah,
you can't just you know, like fluff through you know. Oh,
I look at Tony's job all the time. I can't
imagine when Tony has to do these riffs where they
let people go and stuff like that. I guarantee you
it eats him up. I mean it does. It's tough,
(09:22):
and not all the decisions are made. You're not you're
making the decisions. They're made above you, right and so,
and a lot of them. Back then I did have
to make you know. You didn't have the luxury.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Then we talk about decisions. Why are you retiring and
what do you plan to do well retiring? Because tomorrow
is my seventy third berth.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And fifty years it's just you look great and then
nice little package.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, fifty years.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You don't get points for fifty one fifty two.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
You know, listen, I'm going to tell you this. I
said this. I feel like a poser. I should not be.
I should not have gotten inducted in the Radio Hall
of Fame. Doug Podel needs to be in the race.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
No I came and uh, you know, I'm going to
miss our conversations in the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
By the way, we talked all the time. We have
bad prostates, So he talked all the time in the bathroom.
That is the truth, Doug. Doug, you are and I'm
being as sincere as can be. You're you are one
of the top probably five to seven guys I've worked
with in this business as far as legends are concerned.
And I remember when you came over. You came out
of retirement. He was retired one time before, like jay Z.
(10:27):
It was I know, he came out. He's like Michael Jordan,
better than jay Z and he came out of retirement
to come back. And Uh, when Wheels got you, I'm like,
these guys are They're actually how great is this? And
I know you didn't do it for the money, because
I guarantee you that this company wasn't paying. You did
it because of the love of building something that was cool.
And honestly, when you and uh Intrudy and everybody over
(10:51):
there came over here and did that, it brought viability
to this signal that I still don't understand one O
six seven to me six, I mean, maybe it's the curse.
It's the Maybe it's the curse. It's the curse of
getting rid of the call letters. W four. It's probably
the curse of the cause of.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
The call letters. It's the signal.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
There's I I when Tony said, yeah, the good news
is we got w l Z I go, oh, what's
the signal in ninety eight and he goes, no, one
O six. Well, the good news is you got wheels.
The bad news is you got one O six point seven.
So it's a it's a battle uphill.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But nowadays with I heard app you know what I mean,
I always feel like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That is the truth there there. It's becoming more and more,
but it's still a battle. It's still an uphill battle,
but uh one that we're finally getting.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Over the hump on. So I'm so happy for you.
I'm happy for your family. Uh. I loved uh and
I still love Doug's daughter, Lauren. I used to love
having Lauren on our show all the time. You got
grand kids. Lauren gave you beautiful grandkids, and you have
a beautiful wife. You're gonna go home or you golf?
What do you do? You gonna do anything fun?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, you know what I'm gonna do, actually, Mojo, I'm
gonna do some record shows, okay, because I have a
lot of memorabilia. Tell that crowd, let's make some money
sell that and some sports shows.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I mean, I've had people who have studios already asked
me about podcasting and things I don't I don't think
I need to do any of that. When you've done
fifty years, there's no rush to get back to it
when you know you. We talked about me being retired, uh,
(12:31):
sort of without wanting to be. I felt that there
was still something in the take I had to get out.
I never thought it'd be seven years later when I
came here that you know, I would I would still.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Be in our business. They don't normally let you go
out and say goodbye. Yeah, so that's why it usually
doesn't have They walk you out, and when you're walked out,
you don't want you you got you know, no, I'm
finished business.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I have to say this is this is really special Tony.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
One of the things I will say about Tony and
con and this is no joke and iHeart for the
most sake. The You can give the company crap for
being the big guys they if you are, if you've
been good to them, which you have been, and you've
brought a lot of money to the company, a lot
of advertisers, they will let you pretty much go out
on your own accord. If you haven't been good to them,
(13:20):
they're gonna cut your ass in a second.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Colleen was at my last retirement and I was crying
my eyes out, and I looked across the room and
I could see her crying her eyes out, and I
said to myself, oh man, you know and then obviously
meeting up with her back here, I think she knew
in my heart of hearts, you know that I wanted
to go out this way.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Something could you give, like a quick piece of advice?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I think fifty years, no matter if it's radio, no
matter what the industry is, fifty years says a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
What sustains this law.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You got to be a hard worker, and I know
all of you are, and this family of races people
are that that. It's an amazing group of people because
it's some people who have gone through the same thing
that I've gone through, from call letter to call letter.
But it's also young people who have come up and
have been tutored by some of the best people in
(14:17):
Detroit radio and guys like yourself who just are brilliant,
who have the passion. And when I see a young
person with the kind of passion that I used to have,
you know, you want to nurture that and hone that
in and do everything you can and like my buddy
(14:39):
Zach Okay. I was really impressed with Zach when I
first met him, and I told a lot of people
in the building, you know, this is a young man
you don't want to lose, you know, because of his
you know, just enthusiasm for the medium.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
A lot of people have lost it.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And that said me, you know, but one of the
greatest honors you'll ever get. And you and I have
talked about this before, and you guys will experience this
in your lives with your children when your children say
I want to do what you're doing, which Doug has
had with Lauren getting into media, and then I have
had with Joe. And it's also a curse too, because
(15:20):
you know what I mean, you don't want them, you know,
the dirty part of the business and things. But I
will say this to you, man, you have left. There's
been a lot of people that got in this business
because of you. There's a lot of DJs out there.
I guarantee you that listen to Doug Podell on the air,
but also would send you tapes over the years and
you would air check them. And so I'm so happy
for you.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Buddy, Happy birthday. I know nobody that you're broadcasting to.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Knows who they do. Tex texting you man, Doug Podell, Zach,
Doug's leaving. Guess what you're Zach. Can Zach have the
moniker at the dock of Rock now? Because that was
a real quick no. Never was getting all warned when
Hold on, I want to know the doc of rock.
Look at this. I want to tell you someundthing. When
I heard this news, I actually said to myself, this
cannot be true. This guy works like four hours a day.
Why the hell would he quit that push job that
(00:22):
he has, the man who invented rock radio and for
so many years fifty years? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Or is it years fifty years with very little downtime.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Either this guy has gotten them the name. You don't
get the name the dock of rock without being literally
a legend. Doug Podell is retiring and the announcement was
made this morning live on his radio station that that
he's on one oh six seven Wheels w LZ. But
this guy's been associated with so many different call letters.
(00:57):
I think of these call letters and how you know,
I kind of they are W four the w Riff, which,
by the way, you built and made that station. Those
guys owe you some money right now, because they wouldn't
be where they are right now if it wasn't for you.
As well as you made some stops in other cities too.
You made some stops in Minneapolis, you made some stops
(01:19):
in Cleveland. Am I right in saying this, Doug were
you were you Howard's boss at one point? Yes, and
you guys had a little adversarial type of a relationship too. Well.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, but he told me that I was part of
the bit, so you know, to go along with it.
But we were actually friends at W four, yeah, six
point seven when he was here in Detroit, and when
he launched his syndication, he was looking for guys, at
least I think he was looking for guys that believed
in freedom of speech. You had to have that first,
(01:50):
or you just couldn't you couldn't deal with the situation.
So we were the third affiliate in Cleveland, and they
brought me in there to basically launch this thing and
help launch the syndication and you know, work with the
consultants to you know, get more stations for Howard. And
in the interim, we went number one and decimated America's
(02:16):
rock station, which was WMMS at the time, and we
went number one and had that his final funeral, which
was this one hundred thousand dollars concert that we threw
where he had Heidi Fleie there and you know, David
Lee Roth and America and of course Howard and all
(02:36):
of the Minions and Elephant Boy and Stuttering John, and
it was probably one of the greatest rock moments or
moments in radio for me. Really, the whole story of
not only going to Cleveland, but launching Howard and all
the things that happened to between, but then the funeral
(02:58):
and the wire cutting that happened.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, explain that. You guys got to hear this one.
The wire cutting.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So you know, we were broadcasting live, and the competition
really felt that they could stop it, and they did
several things to try and stop it, including I got
a call from the FAA saying that there's a plane
about to fly overhead with water and they were going
to drop it on us on twenty thousand people who
(03:26):
were there for this concert. And I said, well, if
they do that, you know, they'll lose their license forever.
And the FAA and the plane company actually decided not
to do it, you know, they weren't going to let
them do it. And so an engineer and I expected
(03:47):
something from this station and these people. So I had
plane codes, plane closed people everywhere, including right there by
this one little wire just like this that attached to
the building, to the trailer, and the engineer walked, snipped
it and then tried to head right to the edge
(04:09):
of the water there because we were in the flats
and throw his stuff away, and he they took him down.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
They cut the wire to stop the broadcast, to stop
the broadcast in.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The contistic you know, and within five minutes we had
the broadcast back up because we were ready, and uh,
there was there was some hell to pay for that, Mojo.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Have you heard from him since his retirement announcement.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Since the news came out? As Howard contacted contact you know,
we'll talk about it. He always does.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, I do get texts on occasion. Yeah, and they'll say,
Doug Howard's talking about you and he likes you.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I actually used to say to Doug all the time
because I I would listen to Howard and I would
hear that all the time and hear them talk about you.
And then I also wondered your relationship with Drew and
Mike because you came into RIFF and you were Drewing
Mike's boss. Yeah, you were the program director of RIFF
right and and honestly, eighteen years, the biggest numbers, the
(05:19):
biggest ratings that that station has ever had is under
the helm of Doug Podell the dock of Rock with
twenty something shares and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well, it was bigger than I ever imagined.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, for sure. How'd you get that name? Does somebody
give you that name or did you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, I was at W four, which was one six
point seven, and I was full time.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I was doing ten to two at.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Night when they had the four hour shifts and Sky
Daniels I don't know if you remember his name, but
he went on to the Loop and you know, he
was pretty famous and he was great, okay, and he goes, Doug,
you know, it was one Saturday afternoon, we were there
early year, and he goes, you know, you're missing something,
(06:04):
and I'm worried for you that they're going to let
you go. And I'm thinking, oh, man, what does he know?
Because he was a music director, so he was behind
the closed door, you know. And he goes, do you
have a nickname at all? And I said, well, well,
back in college at W A.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Y N.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
They used to call me the good doctor.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So, for some various reasons that we.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Won't get, were you were you a female doctor? Is
that what I'm college.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Street?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Okay, song about a nickelbag.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I look at you, Doug, and I got to tell
you something. The thing I don't this is I don't
get you are a great storyteller, and you can tell
a story. And it's the art of telling a story
over a fifteen second to twenty five second or thirty
second intro is lost because it's so hard to do.
(07:16):
But you did not deserve twenty five thirty seconds. You
deserved this, like the conversation, why did you ever never
try to do just do mornings or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I can't get up that tough time right now.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I see your wife would kick your ass out of bed,
and that's what my wife does. She just says it's
time to go to work. You know, you got to go.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I never really had a solid shift because I was
programming too, you know. So I did middays when I
was at RIFF yeah, because Arthur was there, so I
wasn't kicking Arthur out.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Of his Arthur P. Do you know who Arthur P is?
I've heard right. So you guys are all the younger
and stuff like that. Arthur P was a legend. The
guy made a living off of going baby yeah on
the radio. Well, I mean in saying baby.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
When he goes on Facebook right now it says bab
he gets three thousand likes baby.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, that's amazing likes. You know, so legend.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That was kind of part of uh my career was
working with legends.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I worked with Steve.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Doll for a while, Jay Jams or you know, I
hired them from Riff to come to Wheels.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So we were in gridlock.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Much like we are today.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
And and we needed to make a change. And uh,
you know, we were looking for a morning show. And
I called Jim because he hired me at W four
full time, and I said, are you guys, are you
guys interested in you know, coming over here? And he goes, well,
we're having difficulty with our contract right now.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
He goes, it's perfect timing. So wow. A lot of
people their jobs to you, Doug, Doug, their jobs speaking questions.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
The one thing that as a PD though, and not
just to DJ. Yeah, uh, you do have to make decisions. Yeah,
you can't just you know, like fluff through you know. Oh,
I look at Tony's job all the time. I can't
imagine when Tony has to do these riffs where they
let people go and stuff like that. I guarantee you
it eats him up. I mean it does. It's tough,
(09:22):
and not all the decisions are made. You're not you're
making the decisions. They're made above you, right and so,
and a lot of them. Back then I did have
to make you know. You didn't have the luxury.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Then we talk about decisions. Why are you retiring and
what do you plan to do well retiring? Because tomorrow
is my seventy third berth.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And fifty years it's just you look great and then
nice little package.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, fifty years.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
You don't get points for fifty one fifty two.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
You know, listen, I'm going to tell you this. I
said this. I feel like a poser. I should not be.
I should not have gotten inducted in the Radio Hall
of Fame. Doug Podel needs to be in the race.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
No I came and uh, you know, I'm going to
miss our conversations in the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
By the way, we talked all the time. We have
bad prostates, So he talked all the time in the bathroom.
That is the truth, Doug. Doug, you are and I'm
being as sincere as can be. You're you are one
of the top probably five to seven guys I've worked
with in this business as far as legends are concerned.
And I remember when you came over. You came out
of retirement. He was retired one time before, like jay Z.
(10:27):
It was I know, he came out. He's like Michael Jordan,
better than jay Z and he came out of retirement
to come back. And Uh, when Wheels got you, I'm like,
these guys are They're actually how great is this? And
I know you didn't do it for the money, because
I guarantee you that this company wasn't paying. You did
it because of the love of building something that was cool.
And honestly, when you and uh Intrudy and everybody over
(10:51):
there came over here and did that, it brought viability
to this signal that I still don't understand one O
six seven to me six, I mean, maybe it's the curse.
It's the Maybe it's the curse. It's the curse of
getting rid of the call letters. W four. It's probably
the curse of the cause of.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
The call letters. It's the signal.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
There's I I when Tony said, yeah, the good news
is we got w l Z I go, oh, what's
the signal in ninety eight and he goes, no, one
O six. Well, the good news is you got wheels.
The bad news is you got one O six point seven.
So it's a it's a battle uphill.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But nowadays with I heard app you know what I mean,
I always feel like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
That is the truth there there. It's becoming more and more,
but it's still a battle. It's still an uphill battle,
but uh one that we're finally getting.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Over the hump on. So I'm so happy for you.
I'm happy for your family. Uh. I loved uh and
I still love Doug's daughter, Lauren. I used to love
having Lauren on our show all the time. You got
grand kids. Lauren gave you beautiful grandkids, and you have
a beautiful wife. You're gonna go home or you golf?
What do you do? You gonna do anything fun?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, you know what I'm gonna do, actually, Mojo, I'm
gonna do some record shows, okay, because I have a
lot of memorabilia. Tell that crowd, let's make some money
sell that and some sports shows.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I mean, I've had people who have studios already asked
me about podcasting and things I don't I don't think
I need to do any of that. When you've done
fifty years, there's no rush to get back to it
when you know you. We talked about me being retired, uh,
(12:31):
sort of without wanting to be. I felt that there
was still something in the take I had to get out.
I never thought it'd be seven years later when I
came here that you know, I would I would still.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Be in our business. They don't normally let you go
out and say goodbye. Yeah, so that's why it usually
doesn't have They walk you out, and when you're walked out,
you don't want you you got you know, no, I'm
finished business.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I have to say this is this is really special Tony.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
One of the things I will say about Tony and
con and this is no joke and iHeart for the
most sake. The You can give the company crap for
being the big guys they if you are, if you've
been good to them, which you have been, and you've
brought a lot of money to the company, a lot
of advertisers, they will let you pretty much go out
on your own accord. If you haven't been good to them,
(13:20):
they're gonna cut your ass in a second.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Colleen was at my last retirement and I was crying
my eyes out, and I looked across the room and
I could see her crying her eyes out, and I
said to myself, oh man, you know and then obviously
meeting up with her back here, I think she knew
in my heart of hearts, you know that I wanted
to go out this way.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Something could you give, like a quick piece of advice?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I think fifty years, no matter if it's radio, no
matter what the industry is, fifty years says a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
What sustains this law.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You got to be a hard worker, and I know
all of you are, and this family of races people
are that that. It's an amazing group of people because
it's some people who have gone through the same thing
that I've gone through, from call letter to call letter.
But it's also young people who have come up and
have been tutored by some of the best people in
(14:17):
Detroit radio and guys like yourself who just are brilliant,
who have the passion. And when I see a young
person with the kind of passion that I used to have,
you know, you want to nurture that and hone that
in and do everything you can and like my buddy
(14:39):
Zach Okay. I was really impressed with Zach when I
first met him, and I told a lot of people
in the building, you know, this is a young man
you don't want to lose, you know, because of his
you know, just enthusiasm for the medium.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
A lot of people have lost it.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And that said me, you know, but one of the
greatest honors you'll ever get. And you and I have
talked about this before, and you guys will experience this
in your lives with your children when your children say
I want to do what you're doing, which Doug has
had with Lauren getting into media, and then I have
had with Joe. And it's also a curse too, because
(15:20):
you know what I mean, you don't want them, you know,
the dirty part of the business and things. But I
will say this to you, man, you have left. There's
been a lot of people that got in this business
because of you. There's a lot of DJs out there.
I guarantee you that listen to Doug Podell on the air,
but also would send you tapes over the years and
you would air check them. And so I'm so happy
for you.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Buddy, Happy birthday. I know nobody that you're broadcasting to.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Knows who they do. Tex texting you man, Doug Podell, Zach,
Doug's leaving. Guess what you're Zach. Can Zach have the
moniker at the dock of Rock now? Because that was
a real quick no. Never was getting all warned when
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