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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's funny, Kevin's going to bring something up here right now,
(00:02):
and it reminds me of the time. And it was
right around this time of the year too that the
priest at our parish had to.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Do the whole.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We need to have a you know, meeting or a
conversation about something thing. And it was not them trying
to have you donate money to him, because usually when
they do that, I zone off. I'm like, all right,
here he goes he wants money again. It was even
more interesting than money. It was him telling people, you
are coming to the house of God, and just like
(00:36):
you would go to the house of your grandma, grandparents,
your parents, you know, distinguished people. You are to dress
appropriately because it was summertime, and like girls were showing
up in like bikinis and stuff, and guys guys were
wearing guys were wearing like jeorts.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So have made a huge comeback there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So cav witnessed this at at his church. He witnessed.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I kind of I want to stay in the middle
of the line on this one. I don't want to
sway either way. But I went to church and to
your point, I was raised where everybody was in there
with suits and ties on, and ladies had you know,
I'm saying, dresses down today ankles, And that was how
you showed up at church. Times have changed now and
(01:28):
more people have adopted to come as you are mentality
because a lot of people also feel like they may
not accept me if I come in a T shirt
and jeans, And it shouldn't be about that in the
first place. It should be about receiving the word. So
I'm receiving the word. And I showed I had some
bill bottoms on, had some shoes on, had a nice
little shirt on. Other people are wearing jeans and T
(01:49):
shirts because we're there for the Lord. I get up
to leave and I turn around and the first thing
I see is a pregnant beach ball belly seeking out
bear like bear like almost like if you were to
wear I'm seeing this, if you were to wear a
crop top. She had her her breasts were covered, but
her entire stomach was out and she was just rubbing
(02:12):
that thing. You know how pregnant women be. She was
just lebbing that thing at church. This is at church.
And I was like, I don't I don't you know,
because body positivity, you can't say nothing about pregnant women
are gonna run down your throat falls. So I was
just like okay, very nice and kept it moving like
I was like, wow, like I've never seen that in church. Yeah,
that's interesting. Pregnant bellies with a line on it too.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
She was almost I'm also conflicted on this because I've
had a priest tell me I went to Catholic school.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
They would tell us we're not allowed to wear jeans
to church. But I also feel like the come as
you are mentality is something.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That we're welcoming.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, you're more aligned with like, don't tell me what
I can and can't wear, but also you shouldn't have
your belly out.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I think jeans to me, you know, at least they're
you know, you're wearing jeans.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
You can dress up jeans a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I think the guy wearing the shirt that has like,
you know, sleeves cut off.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
A beer you know brand on it or something like
that with a pair of you know, cargo shorts, you
know what I mean, Like those.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Guys, what if it is cut off and they says
seek Jesus or something on their I'm not a.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Fan of those shirts. Anyway, but I will the sleeves
cut off.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
No.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Anytime i'm my stepson's laundries in the lunder room and
I find one of those, it disappears.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Do you guys have family members that when you have
like a big family event, like a wedding or something
like that, and they show up, they show up in
what is their dress clothes, but you look at it
and go, I would cut my lawn in that, you
know what I mean tail.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Just so you know this is a tie event or
you got over emphasized.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
My stepmom is going, yes, your father he has his
boob shirt. He loves wearing his shirt that I'll all
different kinds of boobs on it drugs and she's like,
you can't wear your boob shirt a London chop house.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
My favorite is my niece got married. And when my
niece got married, it was a very nice wedding. It
was in Miami. It was really nice, and one of
the family members from the other side was wearing the
nice car heart stuff, like the like not the car
heart that they would wear to work, but the nice
car heart stuff that they only wear to the fancy
things like the Miami.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I feel like there's two topics here, because it's the
church topic of like can you just show up as
as you are, like you said, keV?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And also the pregnant the pregnant.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I think that pregnant bellies are beautiful, But I also
think that there's a time and a place for him to.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Have made a good point earlier, like if it was
just someone with a bigger belly and they weren't pregnant,
would we want that out?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I never ever, ever, ever let that belly see the sunshine,
and if they were, that's not true. I was on
vacation and more bathing suit one time.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That was it. What's up, Chess?
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Not much.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
I was just wondering where where we're going to church?
Where there's bikinis? Because man loring.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Uh this this was this was a church in Orchard Lake, Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So I think they were. I think they were.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think they were going to cast Lake right afterwards,
CHESSI heading right out to the boat. We're going to
the boat right afterwards.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What's up? Merlen?
Speaker 8 (05:34):
Oh? You know, I guess thee come as you are saying,
because everything's so casual now. But I think for respect
for God, I think you should dress up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And look, I don't think God care about the clothes
I got on. I think he does why I was
born Nike.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Although although God war, God worm sandals pretty much everywhere,
Gud wore robes.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
He wore robes that you probably should have just worn
around the house or maybe.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Out of the shower. My God don't know, Gucci.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I do think that that's a level too. The people
that go to church dressed in all the blame and
stuff like who are you there for? Well, I think
they're there is a little bit of a fashion show.
So there is definitely the extremes.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You know, that's a great point. What's up, Toya, how
you doing?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (06:28):
My favorite people in the mornings.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
So so two things.
Speaker 9 (06:36):
One, I get the whole like not body sham and
all of that, but that is just straight up inappropriate
for one. For two, there literally is no skitcher in
the Bible that says come as you are and I
was born and raised in church.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
But what it is is it's.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
Just encouraging those that when you come, if you don't
have something to dress to the nines for church, because
historic they would like get dressed up for like temple
and things of that.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Nature, it's come.
Speaker 9 (07:04):
The important thing is to come and not worry about that.
But for those of us who know better and can
do better, I think it's just just a matter of respect,
Like just like you would respect like if a fancy
restaurant had a dress code or a club night had
a dress code, you can.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Respect all of that.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
So just respect you like that, you know.
Speaker 9 (07:25):
Yeah, And and to your point, like Kevin said, like yeah,
God don't care about the clothes per se. But I
think again it's just besides respect, it's just a matter of, like,
you know, presenting yourself in a way that is reasonable.
And I think that's the philosophy when we come to
church that we should have.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Isn't it always the thing that they've said that Jesus
would hang out with the hookers and the like, he
stood apart the hookers could not dress like hookers when
they were hanging.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Out with the Lord.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I love I love you to soya. But I do
think there are a lot of people who won't go
to church because they feel like they'll be judged.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, And can I be honest, the people they are
at church are judging more than any other people. That's
where the judgment goes right there judging everybody else. Yeah, uh,
I think Marcus uh is not with us here. Hi, Marcus, how.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
You doing good? How are you well?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I'm a little tired. I'll be honest with you. I'm
a little tired right now, Marcus.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
It's not gonna lie yet.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
A rough night also, But anyways, you know, I was
just gonna say the same thing you did. I'm like,
didn't God wear robe and sandals everywhere?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It is true? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:43):
Well, you know, I grew up in the fine dining industry,
and you know, I always, you know, people always judge people
how they looked when they came to the restaurant. I
didn't care if you wore shorts and a halter topic
you were spending one hundred and eighty on a steak,
I didn't care.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Can I tell you you though?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
There have been times where I have gone into uh,
for instance, Capital Grill, and I'll go into Capitol Grill
and there is like the guy that brings like the
trophy girl with him, and they're wearing crop tops and
stuff like that, and I'm like, you're gonna get cold
in hair, because.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That's what you think.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Because I've got like shorts and a quarter zip on
and you're in, You're in. I've gone out with Chelsea
before and Chelsea's actually had to ask if you have
like a shawl that you could wear, and I'm like,
this girl is for sure going to ask for a shawl,
And then I realized she doesn't. And then I think
to myself, she's got herself like warm blood.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Where what is that comment? That whole thing that you
just said. What does I have to do with the topic.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Because people something he was talking about one hundred and
eighty dollars steaks. You buy one hundred eighty dollars steaks. Yeah,
it's like a little chili. It's like, yeah, all right, well.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Warm block Mark. That was Marcus. This is Jordan.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Jordan says his pastor is the one that dresses inappropriately.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
What is your pastor?
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Where? No, it's not inappropriate. I mean so Hill were
Je's and Air Force ones?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Oh yeah, such a thing.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, so's he's cool pastor, He's the cool ones. How
are his services, Jordan? Are they good? Are they interesting
to listen to?
Speaker 8 (10:31):
Well, we have like fifteen hundred people in our church
every weekend, so you must be doing something.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Can I tell you?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
There was a pastor that used to be at Kensington
and I miss him like crazy. He's now over in
West Michigan and when he Steve, I love I love
him Pastor Steve. Every now and again we'll reach out
on social media. But that was one of those that
was one of those guys. He could have done a
three hour service and it would feel like it was
five minutes. And uh and you know mean like those
(11:01):
are the kind of the pastor that wears the jeans
kind of guy is usually the kind of guy I
want to see. Shut out Motorcy Church, Josh.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Who's that is that? Pastor Josh? Pastor? What does Pastor
Josh wear? Like a big old suit? He always wear black?
Is that that theater downtown they have they have meet
ups there.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Okay, what's the church that's just off of seventy five
Ebenezer or whatever?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It is the biggest building I have ever seen.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
That's a monument. I want to have a jingle ball there.
That's how that thing is so big. It's got it's
got to fit more people than the Masonic Temple.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Probably Great of Grace or Word of Faith. One of
them boys
It's funny, Kevin's going to bring something up here right now,
(00:02):
and it reminds me of the time. And it was
right around this time of the year too that the
priest at our parish had to.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Do the whole.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We need to have a you know, meeting or a
conversation about something thing. And it was not them trying
to have you donate money to him, because usually when
they do that, I zone off. I'm like, all right,
here he goes he wants money again. It was even
more interesting than money. It was him telling people, you
are coming to the house of God, and just like
(00:36):
you would go to the house of your grandma, grandparents,
your parents, you know, distinguished people. You are to dress
appropriately because it was summertime, and like girls were showing
up in like bikinis and stuff, and guys guys were
wearing guys were wearing like jeorts.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So have made a huge comeback there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So cav witnessed this at at his church. He witnessed.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I kind of I want to stay in the middle
of the line on this one. I don't want to
sway either way. But I went to church and to
your point, I was raised where everybody was in there
with suits and ties on, and ladies had you know,
I'm saying, dresses down today ankles, And that was how
you showed up at church. Times have changed now and
(01:28):
more people have adopted to come as you are mentality
because a lot of people also feel like they may
not accept me if I come in a T shirt
and jeans, And it shouldn't be about that in the
first place. It should be about receiving the word. So
I'm receiving the word. And I showed I had some
bill bottoms on, had some shoes on, had a nice
little shirt on. Other people are wearing jeans and T
(01:49):
shirts because we're there for the Lord. I get up
to leave and I turn around and the first thing
I see is a pregnant beach ball belly seeking out
bear like bear like almost like if you were to
wear I'm seeing this, if you were to wear a
crop top. She had her her breasts were covered, but
her entire stomach was out and she was just rubbing
(02:12):
that thing. You know how pregnant women be. She was
just lebbing that thing at church. This is at church.
And I was like, I don't I don't you know,
because body positivity, you can't say nothing about pregnant women
are gonna run down your throat falls. So I was
just like okay, very nice and kept it moving like
I was like, wow, like I've never seen that in church. Yeah,
that's interesting. Pregnant bellies with a line on it too.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
She was almost I'm also conflicted on this because I've
had a priest tell me I went to Catholic school.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
They would tell us we're not allowed to wear jeans
to church. But I also feel like the come as
you are mentality is something.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
That we're welcoming.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, you're more aligned with like, don't tell me what
I can and can't wear, but also you shouldn't have
your belly out.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I think jeans to me, you know, at least they're
you know, you're wearing jeans.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
You can dress up jeans a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I think the guy wearing the shirt that has like,
you know, sleeves cut off.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
A beer you know brand on it or something like
that with a pair of you know, cargo shorts, you
know what I mean, Like those.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Guys, what if it is cut off and they says
seek Jesus or something on their I'm not a.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Fan of those shirts. Anyway, but I will the sleeves
cut off.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
No.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Anytime i'm my stepson's laundries in the lunder room and
I find one of those, it disappears.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Do you guys have family members that when you have
like a big family event, like a wedding or something
like that, and they show up, they show up in
what is their dress clothes, but you look at it
and go, I would cut my lawn in that, you
know what I mean tail.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Just so you know this is a tie event or
you got over emphasized.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
My stepmom is going, yes, your father he has his
boob shirt. He loves wearing his shirt that I'll all
different kinds of boobs on it drugs and she's like,
you can't wear your boob shirt a London chop house.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
My favorite is my niece got married. And when my
niece got married, it was a very nice wedding. It
was in Miami. It was really nice, and one of
the family members from the other side was wearing the
nice car heart stuff, like the like not the car
heart that they would wear to work, but the nice
car heart stuff that they only wear to the fancy
things like the Miami.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I feel like there's two topics here, because it's the
church topic of like can you just show up as
as you are, like you said, keV?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And also the pregnant the pregnant.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I think that pregnant bellies are beautiful, But I also
think that there's a time and a place for him to.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Have made a good point earlier, like if it was
just someone with a bigger belly and they weren't pregnant,
would we want that out?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I never ever, ever, ever let that belly see the sunshine,
and if they were, that's not true. I was on
vacation and more bathing suit one time.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That was it. What's up, Chess?
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Not much.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
I was just wondering where where we're going to church?
Where there's bikinis? Because man loring.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Uh this this was this was a church in Orchard Lake, Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
So I think they were. I think they were.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think they were going to cast Lake right afterwards,
CHESSI heading right out to the boat. We're going to
the boat right afterwards.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
What's up? Merlen?
Speaker 8 (05:34):
Oh? You know, I guess thee come as you are saying,
because everything's so casual now. But I think for respect
for God, I think you should dress up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
And look, I don't think God care about the clothes
I got on. I think he does why I was
born Nike.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Although although God war, God worm sandals pretty much everywhere,
Gud wore robes.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
He wore robes that you probably should have just worn
around the house or maybe.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Out of the shower. My God don't know, Gucci.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I do think that that's a level too. The people
that go to church dressed in all the blame and
stuff like who are you there for? Well, I think
they're there is a little bit of a fashion show.
So there is definitely the extremes.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You know, that's a great point. What's up, Toya, how
you doing?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (06:28):
My favorite people in the mornings.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
So so two things.
Speaker 9 (06:36):
One, I get the whole like not body sham and
all of that, but that is just straight up inappropriate
for one. For two, there literally is no skitcher in
the Bible that says come as you are and I
was born and raised in church.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
But what it is is it's.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
Just encouraging those that when you come, if you don't
have something to dress to the nines for church, because
historic they would like get dressed up for like temple
and things of that.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Nature, it's come.
Speaker 9 (07:04):
The important thing is to come and not worry about that.
But for those of us who know better and can
do better, I think it's just just a matter of respect,
Like just like you would respect like if a fancy
restaurant had a dress code or a club night had
a dress code, you can.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Respect all of that.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
So just respect you like that, you know.
Speaker 9 (07:25):
Yeah, And and to your point, like Kevin said, like yeah,
God don't care about the clothes per se. But I
think again it's just besides respect, it's just a matter of, like,
you know, presenting yourself in a way that is reasonable.
And I think that's the philosophy when we come to
church that we should have.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Isn't it always the thing that they've said that Jesus
would hang out with the hookers and the like, he
stood apart the hookers could not dress like hookers when
they were hanging.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Out with the Lord.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I love I love you to soya. But I do
think there are a lot of people who won't go
to church because they feel like they'll be judged.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, And can I be honest, the people they are
at church are judging more than any other people. That's
where the judgment goes right there judging everybody else. Yeah, uh,
I think Marcus uh is not with us here. Hi, Marcus, how.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
You doing good? How are you well?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I'm a little tired. I'll be honest with you. I'm
a little tired right now, Marcus.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
It's not gonna lie yet.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
A rough night also, But anyways, you know, I was
just gonna say the same thing you did. I'm like,
didn't God wear robe and sandals everywhere?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
It is true? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:43):
Well, you know, I grew up in the fine dining industry,
and you know, I always, you know, people always judge people
how they looked when they came to the restaurant. I
didn't care if you wore shorts and a halter topic
you were spending one hundred and eighty on a steak,
I didn't care.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Can I tell you you though?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
There have been times where I have gone into uh,
for instance, Capital Grill, and I'll go into Capitol Grill
and there is like the guy that brings like the
trophy girl with him, and they're wearing crop tops and
stuff like that, and I'm like, you're gonna get cold
in hair, because.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That's what you think.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Because I've got like shorts and a quarter zip on
and you're in, You're in. I've gone out with Chelsea
before and Chelsea's actually had to ask if you have
like a shawl that you could wear, and I'm like,
this girl is for sure going to ask for a shawl,
And then I realized she doesn't. And then I think
to myself, she's got herself like warm blood.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Where what is that comment? That whole thing that you
just said. What does I have to do with the topic.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Because people something he was talking about one hundred and
eighty dollars steaks. You buy one hundred eighty dollars steaks. Yeah,
it's like a little chili. It's like, yeah, all right, well.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Warm block Mark. That was Marcus. This is Jordan.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Jordan says his pastor is the one that dresses inappropriately.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
What is your pastor?
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Where? No, it's not inappropriate. I mean so Hill were
Je's and Air Force ones?
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Oh yeah, such a thing.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, so's he's cool pastor, He's the cool ones. How
are his services, Jordan? Are they good? Are they interesting
to listen to?
Speaker 8 (10:31):
Well, we have like fifteen hundred people in our church
every weekend, so you must be doing something.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Can I tell you?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
There was a pastor that used to be at Kensington
and I miss him like crazy. He's now over in
West Michigan and when he Steve, I love I love
him Pastor Steve. Every now and again we'll reach out
on social media. But that was one of those that
was one of those guys. He could have done a
three hour service and it would feel like it was
five minutes. And uh and you know mean like those
(11:01):
are the kind of the pastor that wears the jeans
kind of guy is usually the kind of guy I
want to see. Shut out Motorcy Church, Josh.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Who's that is that? Pastor Josh? Pastor? What does Pastor
Josh wear? Like a big old suit? He always wear black?
Is that that theater downtown they have they have meet
ups there.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Okay, what's the church that's just off of seventy five
Ebenezer or whatever?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It is the biggest building I have ever seen.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
That's a monument. I want to have a jingle ball there.
That's how that thing is so big. It's got it's
got to fit more people than the Masonic Temple.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Probably Great of Grace or Word of Faith. One of
them boys
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