2025-12-03- KSR - Hour 2

Ryan, Drew, and Shannon are joined by Steven Peake to talk Kentucky's loss to North Carolina at Rupp Arena and take your calls.

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Speaker 2 (02:07):
Thank you, Shannon T. Dude, Drew Franklin here and we're
joined now by ksrs on Steven Peak. Before we get
to his best friend, will Sein, we do want to
go to your take on the basketball game. You were
there last night at Roperina. You've covered the catch now
for several years.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
He slept less than us somehow?

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Would you said he got four hours sleep last week?

Speaker 4 (02:26):
I got about four hours. Yeah, I stay up a
little bit going through some film. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Why would you want to rehash that last night?

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Because I was coming on here. I wanted to be
able to see some parts of the game. But yeah,
it was not a good night, Ryan. I'm not feeling
too good today, not too feeling too good about the
rest of the season. But you know, am I crazy
for thinking maybe maybe they can win the next three
non conference games?

Speaker 6 (02:48):
I'm crazy, right, No, they can't. Okay, that's the optimism
we need. I was being too negative. You stick with that,
all right? You're going to Nashville? Yeah, I do out
there together.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
They've done well when I go to Nashville usually.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
How's that? Uh, you don't want to answer that.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
What was the question? Sorry?

Speaker 5 (03:02):
How do they do in Nashville when you're there?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
I don't know, man.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
We haven't been to the weekend of the SEC tournament
in its true five years, so it can't be doing
that well.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
No, and they lost to Vanerbilt last time I was
there in football and in basketball, so well.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Obviously, the big talking point today is the ten minute
drought where they could not get a field goal. They
finished the game two of sixteen from the field. What
went wrong?

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Well, I'll just say this. We are shooting twenty seven
percent from three against teams with the pulse. It was
our fears going into the season, right we were. We
didn't sign the shooters that we went after. You, Colin
Chandler's your best three point shooter right now, he's your
best shooter. What how many threes you take last night?
Two to over series? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Over two?

Speaker 4 (03:47):
That's I mean, it's all of our fears coming to
fruition this team. To me right now, it feels like
twenty twenty two to twenty three again, it feels like,
you know you got you got this one of the
stars back of the a potential player of the year,
and it'll take away, much like with Oscar and then
it I don't know, man, Like I think the biggest

(04:08):
non conference when they got there was Michigan, and it
feels like you're kind of I'm reliving that one. I
feel like I'm reliving a lot of you K seasons
here lately. I mean, just injuries piling up. I win,
Will Kentucky be dominant again? Like That's what I'm waiting for.
I'm not asking for it every single season, but I
need it. I need Kentucky to be one of the

(04:28):
top four or five teams again like that. That's Kentucky basketball.
And I'm feeling like right now, the standard over the
last eleven years is that we could be really good,
but we're not really ever great, and I'm getting kind
of tired of that.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
You're not wrong.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
You mentioned how they had Oscar that year, and I'm
not trying to say this is Oscar. But one more
bright spot is think God Malaca Marino has turned into
something his fresh year, right I did not expect him
to play that much. Honestly, I watched him at a
high school high school game, and he looked good. He
was still very and I just wondered how that would
translate to college. But my god, what would they look

(05:03):
like if he wasn't playing the way he's been playing,
because he's been pretty steady, especially since taken over in
the starting five. He was the only one that wanted
to rebound last night, and then, as we mentioned the
first hour, made those two big free throws that I
was hoping it would be a little more meaningful than
they ended up being. But thank god he's playing well.
I mean, they at least have a post presence in there,
one of them while waiting for Quaintness to get healthy.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
And we mentioned this, you know, Pope ran with him
those five guys most of the second half. Yellovich, Marino, Chandler,
Otega and Aberdeen. He ran with those guys. Trent cam
Brandon Garrison did not play second half of them. Played
very little. We need more Yellovich. I know in practice
he keeps messing up and Pope makes some run stairs. Okay,

(05:46):
that's fine. Whatever put him in the damn game like
we saw last night how he could guard Caleb Wilson
highlights of the game. That's one of the toughest matchups
we'll see this year. I mean that that kid's legit.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
We saw that fancy turn around he had late.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
I mean, he could do some special things and for
the most part, Yellowvitch Garden really well. He'll rebound. Still
isn't hitting the outside shot, but I think it's in him.
Maybe if he gets out of there and gets comfortable,
gets more minutes. So I know everybody wants to do
about tay Back and that's a weird situation itself, but
I'm like, just put Yellow Bitch in more of him, please.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
So another analogy I came up with. I felt like
when they during that stretch, they started playing like they
were behind. They actually had to leave, but they were
playing like they were behind, coming down, rushing shots early
in the shot clock, taking taking a bad shot. Do
you agree with that or not?

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, I mean this looks like like I said that
twenty twenty two twenty three team where it's just kind
of like five guys playing pickup ball out there. I
went back last night and watched that video. The video
that kind of sold me on on Mark Pope that
YouTube video from Hoop's Vision where it shows that Kentucky
or shows Byu flying down the court one two passes
and pulling from three. This this is not the offense

(06:54):
that I was sold, Like the offense I've been seeing
in some of these games is not. And I will
grant you like it will look different when Jalen Lowe's
out there. But I was told after the Michigan State
game that you can't build this around one player, So
then it feels like we kind of did. You're right,
and that's kind of that's frustrating.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
And after last year when you saw what happens when
your guard gets hurt, I mean you never should have
just had one ball handler to begin with. I mean,
we don't want the injury to happen, But after you
just saw it last year, you should be the team
should be built better to handle it, especially with the
investment made and all the advantages. Kentucky has to just
be like, well, our guard's hurt. I guess that's it.
I mean, that should be how it goes.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Shannon, Is is it as simple as that they built
this team around Jalen low He was going to be
your leader, your point guard, and now with him out,
they've just been in a spiral that it can't recover from.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I think I think that's a lot of it.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
But at the same time, we also heard about how
deep this team is and we're not seeing it right now,
you know, like the lineup last night that they put
out there. I don't have any confidence that if that's
the lot we have to stick with for the rest
of the season.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
I do not have very.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Much optimism at all moving forward. So they've got to
get healthy.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
The other big stat last night's Steven twenty offensive rebounds
for North Carolina twenty two second chance points.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah, and that's where Modiabate helps, right, I mean, that's
where you'd like to you'd like to have had him,
but it you know, and JQ obviously, But those two
guys don't really fix for me. What is my biggest concern?
Because I thought, like, defensively, I mean, Kentucky played all right,
they held him to sixty seven points. I think that
if you hold him to sixty seven, regardless of how
many offensive rebounds. Now, I mean, you only get thirteen

(08:24):
threes off, I guess you could contribute, contribute some of
that to they stole twenty possessions from Kentucky or just
you know, from getting the offensive offensive boards. But I've
been concerned about the shooting since the summer, and I
don't know, I just felt like, I know you guys
have talked about it, but it felt like maybe an
overcorrection happened in the roster construction or you just missed

(08:46):
on the guys, so you kind of it kind of
just ended up being this way. But I felt like,
last year's team, do you take out the injuries, they're
top five to eighteen? Am I wrong?

Speaker 6 (08:57):
No, not at all. I'm thinking back at last year's team.
I miss Amari just fast and how much motion was it?
Even when they were hurt, they would still move on offense.
It looked like the way Pope wants to play. This
team just gets stuck and the ball gets stuck and
they just started looking at each other. And that is
not at all what Mark Pope is why he's here.
That's supposed to be the advantage, not a disadvantage on offense.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
You know, you're the biggest football fan of any of us,
but we brought you here for one reason. Will william
Stein's like your best friend. You're just your best friend.
You guys, we'll slip in bunk beds. No, we told
the story of the pregame show. You and will William
Stein played on a baseball team and you were sixteen
years old together the Louisville Lumbers.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Louisville Lumber.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, and you wore the jersey last night to the game.
Did you show it to Will Stein? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:45):
I was actually walking over the student section and looked
in front of me. I heard certain somebody say, hey, Steve,
and so my dad's name is Steve Peaks, so he go,
Will's gonna call me Steve. But I but when I
had to apply for jobs later on, they got real confusing.
Apparently I was trying to get money out of the
bank or something like that, and so they had to
put Steven. So and I'll go by Steven. But I
was doing by Steve in high school. So I hear that,

(10:07):
and he showed him the jersey and I got that.
I'm video put it on my Twitter. It was because
it's pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Did you ever think you would your childhood friend and teammate. No, Like,
you know, it's already weird that he's what he's thirty
six years old. Yes, me, me, I've never felt older
than being old real the coaches that I cheer for,
of the team that I cheer for.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
But what's your brain like? You go to these press conferences.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
You've been going to Stoops and cow and Pope and
you name it for years, and now you're gonna be
set up the tripod waiting for your Louisville lumber short
stock to come out and do an interview.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
That's it's so weird. I've had so many people text
me and ask me like the same thing. How how
strange is it that it's not even just somebody who's
our age. It's somebody I grew up playing sports against
and was on his team for you know, a couple
couple of years. So yeah, it's gonna be really, really weird.
But I'm I'm so excited. I'm excited for today. I

(10:59):
need to here will say some inspiring stuff to pick
me up. So hopefully he's gonna he's gonna deliverate for.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
You all obviously went your separate ways. He went and
did all the football you went. You went to Murray
out of high school, probably hadn't stayed in touch a lot.
But I mean you know him and what he's like,
what kind of guy are we getting with Will Stein?

Speaker 4 (11:15):
That he's like such a good guy, Like he's he
is a really good person, but he's a he's a
competitor and a winner. Like wherever that dude goes, he wins.
Like you know, he was at Trinity, played a quarterback
for his senior season, led him to a state championship,
had one of the biggest drives in Trinity football history.

(11:36):
It's the little play action bootleg to tie the games
and it's overtime got the win there. So Kentucky's getting
a really good guy and somebody who I think I
fully believe in that he's gonna take Kentucky football uh
to a good place.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
That that uh, that emotion he showed last night when
he was pumping him off, is that his personality or
is that to him just getting kind of caught up
in roperena because that was that he brought to the Lexington.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
No, that's that's Will. That's Will. That's that's the that's
the kind of guy you're gonna get. I am interested
because you all seen the YouTube videos in but kind
of breaking. Yeah, that's that's the nerdy side of them.
I love the side we saw last night. Yes, I
think that's what I love. You're gonna get both. You're
gonna get that that that excitement, and you're gonna get
You're getting somebody, uh, very intelligent that's gonna be able
to break down stuff for us in post games. So

(12:17):
maybe we'll learn. I think we're gonna learn some stuff.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Love it.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
You are.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Your best friend, is the head coach, best friend, childhood
best friend you have? You guys shared a crib together.
I think yeah, little little lumber, little lumber. All right,
we're gonna take our break. We'll go back to the
phone line. If you have a collee talk basketball or football.
Steven Peak joined us from KSR. Drew Franklin, Shannon t Dude,
Ryan liv and we're right back. This is Kenteky's Portradio.
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Speaker 5 (13:10):
You're so joyous and saying joy joy.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I need some joy in my life. After last night
with the postgame show and got over at two in
the morning, you had to blog till four in the morning, Stephen,
When did you get to bed?

Speaker 6 (13:20):
My last text from Steven was it like at three
forty five am. Now, I'm not gonna read it on
there because we're buffalo upset, but we were. We were
firing off text pretty late.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Well, I do want to read a tweet from one
of our coworkers, mister Jack Pilgrim. He did the pregame
show with us yesterday. He's his inn tune with the
UK basketball as anybody, okay, his finger on the pulse
of what's going on in UK basketball. This is his
tweet after the game last night. This is a season
from hell for Mark Pope and the Kentucky Wildcats. Just

(13:47):
an inexcusable product, no matter the injury situation, bad basketball team.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
We did our rapid reaction pretty late in reperena and
uh yeah, Jack was pretty down down then too.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
It was that tweet this morning or last night?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
That was last night?

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Okay, I didn't know if he had slept it off,
but yeah, he had a new one this morning. Okay?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Was this one this morning? Then the one this morning
where he's got feeding the duds? Kentucky's got an identity
crisis with no immediate answers in sight. Is it time
to shift expectations? I don't how do you answer that question?

Speaker 6 (14:20):
I mean, I feel the same way. We were all
pretty down last night, thought about kicking the Christmas tree
at one point. I'm excited for Nashville. I've been looking
forward to this Nashville trip since it was announced. I
bought tickets the moment you could buy tickets, taking vacation time.
I'm not gonna be yapping with you all. I'm not
gonna be writing. I'm gonna be rapid reacting. I'm going
as a fan and I'm so excited, but on the inside,

(14:43):
I'm dead. I'm like, please, I would love to be surprised.
But like, I'm still excited to go and get down there.
But I just thought we would be looking much better
than we are right now heading into that matchup.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
So Shannon, is it time to alter our expectations?

Speaker 3 (14:57):
M Maybe a little bit, because what did we all have?
What were your expectations going into the season. How many
losses did you think we would have?

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Six?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
What did most of us pick?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah? Five, six or seven?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Because I think if that's the case, there's a good
chance you got that going into the SEC.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
I got tricked a little bit. Stephen recorded my preseason
predictions video.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
The whole thing. Yea too if you had a light
and a microphone.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
But he asked me after the Purdue exhibition, so I
was in a great place. I don't even remember what
I said, but it was I don't think I did
forty no, but I'm pretty sure it was one non
conference loss with absolutely whiff on that prediction. But that's
what mine was. I I had high expectations, just like
everyone else. If you open my DraftKings account and go
to open bets, there's Kentucky to win the national championship

(15:42):
sitting right there. I gotta look at it every day
that I go to gamble. I know many people people
were saying final four or bust about Oh yeah, now,
like can we just can we beat a team and
then we'll go from there. We'll figure it out. Let's
get one and then stack a couple and then set
the expectations, which is just crazy to say in December
with the opportunities they've already had.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
So Steven, how do you answer Jack's question? Is it
time to alter our expectations?

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah? Yeah, I did that after the Michigan State game.
I think when Mark Pope came out and did that
press conference, to me, as upset as he was, I
think that for me that was kind of telling that
he may see some of the writing on the wall
with this team and the limitations that it might have.
Partovic currently has us. He's pretty good at predicting stuff
he has. I mean he's perfect. But Partovic has Kentucky

(16:27):
at nineteen and twelve to finish the season. That's a
sixth seed. Oh wow, that would be That would be
kind of a nightmare scenario considering what the expect I mean, well,
what are the expectations for Kentucky basketball? Always would know
we moved, we slightly moved the goalpost a little bit
last year to give you know, it's a it's a
kind of a grace period. But I don't want to
keep saying this, but I kind of missed last year's
team a little bit. I miss a lot of the

(16:49):
guys on the team. You brought up a Mario. I
kind of miss having a Jackson Robinson obviously at Kobe Braya.
So yeah, my expectations have have have changed. I still thing, now,
what if we can get to SEC play January first,
to get Jayalen Low and JQ back. We just reset things.
We're zero and zero. Let's try to win the SEC.
We haven't done that since since the world shut down.

(17:10):
Maybe we can do that again. We haven't won the
SEC tournament since twenty eighteen.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Can we just get to Saturday?

Speaker 4 (17:15):
That'd be great, babe.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
We're doing baby steps.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah, let's try to get that.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
We got the Friday last years Saturday this year.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
It's such a sad conversation. Yeah, Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
But you know, going into the season, we all thought,
looking at this was the perfect roster. We were too
deep at every position, we were over we had loaded
in the back court.

Speaker 6 (17:31):
What's happened, Well, we assume some guys, I'm crazy for
us to think that they would improve. I mean, whoops,
that's my bad for expecting a returning player to get
a little bit better and not go the other.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Way, because that was Pope's mantra. Second players take a
big jump in the second year. That's not happened for
a couple of guys.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, Colin Chandler is the only one that I feel
like has really taken that that big step. Is there
anybody else? I mean, I feel like Collins is really
the only one and in and thank goodness he did.
What would this team be if Colin Chandler didn't take
that massive step, if he was still the guy averaging
two point seven points per game last year or whatever
it was.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
And Steven mentioned how Pope kind of talks like the
writings on the wall. I do feel like like he's
our leader, and sometimes I think he's more scared than I. Yeah,
Like it's like we're in Brave Heart and he's in
the back of the line, like, wait, you're the code.
You get up here and lead us, please and stick
your chests out and have some confidence. Sometimes I'm looking
at him like, oh no, what do you know? Because
you're not exactly making me feel any better. And how
you're explaining this either.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I want to ask you, guys, you were there last night,
how was the crowd for his post game crowd conference?

Speaker 6 (18:35):
First that ever? I mean part of it. It's almost
one in the morning on a week night. So I
don't blame him.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
He just lost.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Losing.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Didn't know that was the lowest we'll probably ever see. Yeah,
A lot of that was it was very late at night.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
I was surprised when we walked out from the player
interviews and there was nobody there. I I mean it
was almost one in the morning, so I kind of
get it. But I think all the people in the
media were, like, never seen it like this.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
If he were to win, I think maybe some people
would tough it out just to show him some support, like,
all right, let's figure this out.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
But being a loss, everybody was quick to get on home.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Shannon on the Avis and Glass text Machine overwhelming disdain
for Kentucky Joe's new song.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I know I've been reading the comments too. Maybe we
shouldn't have doubled down and let him do both.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Amen, Yeah, yeah, all right? Eight five nine two two
two eighty seven who's our next collor Mike, Mike, go ahead, mikey.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
Guys think I picked up bad time to stop drinking.
But anyway, I was just gonna say, you know, sometimes
I just don't understand Hope, because last night I thought,
you know, everything went wrong on offense. But the hind
an obvious advantage With yellow bitch down alone and you
go ten minutes without a bucket, why not put him

(19:49):
and Chandler on the same side and just let him
play some two man and get him a bucket man,
Because I mean, only is a bucket or two in
that ten minute stretch and we win that game. And
I know it was ugly, but it's better than the.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Elves appreciate it, man, you know. And like Drew said earlier,
a lot of those misses we had good looks. They
just couldn't knock him down. It was a three point
one time YELLOWVI. It shot from the wing. It was
dead on, but it came up short. I think because
these legs. He was tired. He'd been playing so many minutes.

Speaker 8 (20:16):
Yeah, can't be playing all the those now that that
talk is actually kind of annoying. Most teams play seven
or eight guys, right and that how many guys in
North Carolina played last night like with a lot of minutes?

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Because I felt like they how come they had the.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Three guys that played thirty five or more?

Speaker 4 (20:32):
So okay, so where were why weren't their legs given out?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I don't know, can't have an answer. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
You know, Cali Perry, we had a quote a couple
of years ago where he said that doing the platoon
system made it to where he couldn't recruit for a
couple of years. Cal not known Fry purplely obviously, but uh,
you know, you look at some of the guys you missed.
Donovan Dent. I don't know how good he's actually hey
actually is, but somebody Kentucky wanted I guess that was
the first pick plays over thirty minutes you had Lamar Wilkerson.

(21:02):
How many minutes is he averaging? Drew thirty over thirty?

Speaker 6 (21:04):
Also, don't look up his three point shooting Sea's shooting
lights out. Yeah, it's best for our mental state if
we just don't look that up.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
And he's coming to rough Brain in a week or so.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yeah, I mean, and so you look at the guys
you're missing out on and those are the guys that
are playing. Caleb Wilson, I think playing over thirty minutes
a game. Kentucky did have four guys that played over
thirty minutes, but that's because you have three starters hurt.
How do how is this happening? How am I still
reliving Kentucky basketball seasons with all these injuries. I'll say
it again, thirteen injuries in thirteen months of the Mark
Pope era. I'm losing my mind.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
You include Quaintens on that because I don't give him
quaints Quaintances was already hurt. No, I don't think I
don't think we can throw that one low and whatever
going on with the No he thought the thirty experienced
thirteen injuries. Yeah, thirteen months, okay, because I mean he
built the roster with the guy with the torn aco.
I'm still for it. I think it'll work out. I
think it'll be good. But I don't count that one
as much as holding this team back because you knew
when you first called the guy how that would play out.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Let's get another call, Shannon, who we got Crease?

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Crease?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Go ahead, Crease.

Speaker 9 (22:01):
Hey, guys, I really am just disgusted with the state
of the program, and I really just think Pope's in
over his head with his job, and I know we're
probably stuck with him next year. The guy can't recruit,
and we're quickly slipping into any Indiana territory in my opinion,
as a program, and it's just disgusting.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Appreciate it, Crease. I mean, there's starting some rumblings. They're
seeing it on social media, people you know, questioning now
is Pope the guy? The honeymoon I think is definitely
over because some of the fans are already starting to
sour a little bit. How how much credit do you
give him? And how much credit do you not give him?
At this point?

Speaker 6 (22:35):
I also keep thinking he came here, he's the one,
like I'm here to win championships, criticize me, like I
know the standard, we're not moving the standard, and now
it's like.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
We are way off course here. If that's the game plan.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
It will help him if he's able to land one
of the top recruits. That's still a big knock on him.
He hasn't checked that box. Can you get a top
recruit that's not a Kentucky kid?

Speaker 6 (22:55):
And Steven's right about Resett in January, go win the
SEC and all that can happen when they get healthy.
But I'm worried about you're gonna have so many losses
in the non conference when we want to get to
our real goal. What kind of seed and what kind
of path are you gonna have in front of you,
because you can't just keep taking losses this early in
the season and expect to be in a good spot
at the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well, thankfully the SEC is not as strong as it
was last year, or maybe you can make up some
ground in the SEC season this year. All right, Well,
take our break, we'll come back. Go back to the
phone lines eight five nine two, eight h two to
eighty seven. Ryan, Drew, Shannon and Stephen Peak will be
right back.

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Speaker 10 (24:51):
Hey, guys, how we doing?

Speaker 11 (24:53):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (24:54):
I feel like we haven't talked about yet his coaches challenges.
There was a clear play in the first apps that
the ball looked like it went off you and see
they called it U and C ball. They immediately score. Meanwhile,
you know you watched the Duke and sport A game
last night. Golden and shi are both used challenges fairly

(25:15):
early in the first half. So I mean, why are
we why are we holding onto those?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I appreciate the phone call. I I don't know. I mean,
whatever analytics tells you that's what they're gonna go with
lexing data.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Well, they used one in the Michigan State game pretty
early on a call that really might have actually wanted
to hold on to it.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Truly, you're right about that.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Was there a play last night?

Speaker 6 (25:35):
Was I need to I need to do my rewatch?
We sit up there on the moon, So a lot
of time we don't get replaced. So a lot of
times those close calls, I mean, you have just as
much luck go and asking someone sitting outside. So I
don't know particular like close things like that until I
go watch the bright.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
What are you laughing at? I didn't mean that. It's
like a complaint.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
I'm just saying there are things that happened in the
game where you know, I truly don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Steve, you said you've already watched it, especially the second half.
Why would you want to go back and watch that disaster?

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Because I was coming on here. I wanted to because
we don't know what we're talking about. No, And I well, yeah,
I mean I would. I just, uh, when you're at
the game. When I'm at the game, I'm roaming around.
I'm also nervous and pacing, so I don't feel like
when I'm at the games that I'm actually seeing the game.
So usually when I go back and watch it, I
actually try to figure out what happened.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
We're working here, so half the time my nose is
in my computer and I look up and I'm like, well,
hope they show a replay.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
I've missed whatever that was. Why Steven is all over
the place.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I recommend everybody go watch your rapid reaction. That's that's
worth a watch.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
We appreciate the views, but it's not won't be the
most joyous conversation.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
You'll watched better than rewatch the game. Go watch the
rapid reaction.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Who's da watch Steven's video? You tweeted it? What your
s PK?

Speaker 4 (26:43):
What is stephen p K?

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Because Will really does walk by, he's like Steve and
he pulls up the lumber jersey.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
That's a cool video.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
You'll gotta watch that one. All right, here's next Shannon Randall. Randall,
go ahead, and Randall.

Speaker 12 (26:55):
See, I believe that Will Stein's here at Kentucky. We're
really gonna see some good quarterbacks come through his programmer developed.
You know, that seems like a real positive as far
as his you know, tenure as an oct at the
Oregon and uh and another thing about the basketball, you know, uh,

(27:19):
Jack Gibbons was saying on the post game show that
that you know, they need one of these guys to
come into the huddle. And I think it's to take
you all the way that like, hey, feed me the rock,
you know, I mean like kind of be like that guy.
That's because he's supposed to be. I believe the preseason
best player on the team, and I mean, you know,
you need that strong leadership. You need that guy to

(27:42):
just be like, hey, I'm the guy that you need
to try to get the ball to.

Speaker 11 (27:47):
In this moment.

Speaker 12 (27:49):
I mean, and and I mean I'm not saying ballhog,
but I mean like when you when you zero in
on that one guy and you open up the floor
for these other guys like at the wing or something,
you dish it out to like Conlin Chandler over there
with open three hours a lot of times and seen
that Aberdeen go down and and Taydler's over there wide open,
and and but Aberdeen didn't dish it out. He just

(28:11):
go I mean, you know, it's it's it seems like
something that Pope would definitely be expressive. And maybe that's
what he means in in his most game conference where
he's talking about, you.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Know, play for each other. Yeah, okay, all right, man,
appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
You know, Otega is a guy that we saw signed
to the old Otega and I heard Jack say that
one time he's got to go tell these guys get
me the ball. Stephen.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
I think you might have even counted how many times
that happened then than not kicking the ball out to
your open teammates. Yeah, yeah, it was like four times.
Instead we're just taking contested.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
During that stretch of ten minutes without scoring.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, there's guys open. And what we saw even in
the Purdue game, guy drives baseline, he kicks it out
to the corner. That guy doesn't shoot. He gives up
a shot, a good shot for somebody who's got a
better sh shot, better shot. Yeah, and in the Perdue
game one time it was Jasper Johnson who then got
to catch shoot wide open and he buried the three.
That's mark Mark Pope's offense. That's the ball movement that

(29:09):
I want to see. That's what we've seen. I mean,
what we saw last night and what we've kind of
seen outside of the louisvill game and against these big
teams is the kind of offense we saw under John Caliparium.
I wrong, without the the creators, without the without the
lottery picks.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
We've brought up.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Travis Ford has said a few times so our boy
Cutler unfiltered about the team chemistry, and I think some
people interpreted it as like locker room, and that might exist,
But what Travis Ford was saying is the not passing
to your teammate, like they don't have on court chemistry correct,
Like they're not making that extra pass for the easy shot.
And I think that's really showing. Now I've heard him
say that a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
So as they go back to Jalen Lowell, they need
that guy, that strong point guard leading the team out there.
I think it all goes back to when they lost
him and they just went to tail spin that they
haven't recovered from.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
Yeah, I mean that is definitely a big part of
it getting him back. But I mean he wouldn't have
helped with twenty offensive rebounds and effort and just the
three times we've played a team that has any kind
of physicality, the moment we turned the lights up and
get excited about a game that it's like they just
they completely fold. Do they have at least in the
three trials so.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Far, I'll tell you he would have helped with eight assists,
nine turnovers last night.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Definitely there, Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. And you
know I was looking at Otega always numbers, he's got
to get to the free throw line more. Last year
he was getting to the free throw line. I think
he had five point three attempts last season. He's three
point three so far this year. Some of that is
just having guys be able to make shots, to spread
the floor so that he can get downhill.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I think Otega was listening to Drew or Drews. They
want to go back to the old Otega. Just get
the ball, immediately go because he did that. He did
that last night better than he's done all season.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
Now, he does need the spacing and that, you know,
got to hit the threes all that, but he's still
It was better last night. But he hadn't had that
aggression in that attitude that he had a year ago.
But maybe a light turned on last night, even though
it didn't result in a win, because he he seemed
to have taken a step forward, even though it didn't
help in the outcome.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Who's next, Shannon, Let's go to Joe.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Joe.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Go ahead, Joe. You're on with Steven Peake, Drew Franklin,
and Shannon the dude.

Speaker 11 (31:13):
Okay, this is Joe, Taygert Faxbell Gang.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Is she cutting out on a Shannon?

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Okay, I don't know, can't tell.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Go ahead, Okay, all right, okay, okay, okay, all right.

Speaker 11 (31:33):
Baxball Gang, okay gang.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
The basketball game. Yes, yeah, it didn't go very well.
We we appreciate phone call. Yeah, I think we're all upset.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Having a hard time.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
You need it out of that run, Yeah, I think
so quick appreciate the call.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Well, I don't know where it was going. That's so
I apologize.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Shannon's just doing his job over your job. You're cue.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Let's let's try another with Wayne, Dwayne go ahead.

Speaker 9 (32:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (32:08):
I think it's gonna have to come. I think there's
a lot of it's gonna have to come from the
players that sell themselves. Like, for instance, somebody like take
a oh Way. You know, they used to back in
the day, thirty years ago, they would they would start
the black Watch like early in the morning and go
in and shoot, and they spend that extra time, and uh,

(32:31):
you know, Coach Patino would always encourage them, get in there,
get your extra shooting in. If you're not shooting, if
you're not shooting at least forty percent from the field,
you need to be shooting. And he tall you look
up and he'd see who's in there. And there was
a direct correlation between the extra shooting and uh, they're
they're shooting percentage and uh, but some of some of

(32:53):
these guys can't even I mean they were missing layups
from writing.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
You know.

Speaker 11 (32:57):
It wasn't just three pointers. They were shooting it come
over the goal from two feet away. I mean it
was get back threes are awful too.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Okay, all right, I don't appreciate the call. I don't
doubt that they're working and working hard and going in
and getting extra shots up.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I mean, I remember I was in we went we
learned this summer, we went through the crafts Inner. We
were giving somebody a tour and it's ten o'clock at
night and Colin Chandler's in there shooting, you know. And
this was in the summer. So I think those guys
still get in there early on their own time and
do get their shots up.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
We saw from looking in that Joe Craft Center, the
Noah Art System, what's our ROI on that this year,
But guys were putting in thousands of shots. So I mean,
I don't think that they think that's the issue.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
No, no, no, I don't either. I mean sure we don't.
It's not branded as the breakfast club and some of
the things we've had in the past where they've just
openly bragged about, Wow, these guys are just always here.
We're not hearing that that much. But I'm not going
to criticize their work ethic. I'm not over there. I
assume they're in the gym. I do think they're trying
really hard. I really do.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Let's talk about something positive. The UK volleyball team hosting
first round in the NCA Tournament tomorrow night over at
Historic Memorial Coliseum. It's the second game of the night,
so it could start anywhere between seven seven thirty somewhere
in that ballpark.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
First one's a four thirty.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
So if you're not going, if you can't get tickets,
come here. We'll have it on here at kas Bar
and Grille, kind of like a volleyball watch party. We
had a great watch party the other night when they
won the SEC tournament. It was a lot of fun.
They started winning when Drew walked out of the building,
told you, yeah, trust me, I won't be here for
the next one. Drew, stay away me. We want to win.
So it's tomorrow night. Now. Tonight, the UK women basketball
team plays on ESPN. They play Miami right down at Miami.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
I have o'clock game a little earlier than we typically get,
so maybe they'll cheer us up tonight. They're on ESPN two,
ESPN two, okay in Miami, but uh, you know, big
night for women's basketball and volleyball tomorrow. I saw Craig
Skinner was on top of the fifth third building promoting it.
He just keeps getting higher and higher. That's the tallest
building in the world. So if they win tonight, I
don't know what he's doing next. Maybe we'll get him
on the moon. Maybe Jeff Bezos can shoot Craig Skinner

(34:59):
in the space to promote the second round. But uh, there,
I guess we have will Stein now. But the volleyball
team has been the only reason to smile very sure
a few weeks. I'm very excited for them to start
their NCAA run.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
All right, Wrawford, We'll take our final break, come back
our final segment eight five nine two eight oh two
two eight seven. This is Kentucky's Ports Radio. All right,
welcome back, Final segment Kentucky's Ports Radio. Ryan Lemon, Drew Franklin,
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Speaker 2 (36:26):
I want to read his car tweet from our big
toe Matt Jones. So in case you missed it, you
know why he's not here, he said, Just so folks know,
I am at the hospital with my dad who had
an unexpected heart surgery yesterday. He is doing a little better,
which I care about more than the game last night
because people were getting some pushback. You know why he's
not here or why he wasn't on the show. Come on, man,

(36:47):
read the room.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
We were pretty committed to the grind and we're we
know this is busy times, but family comes first, especially
while you're having a procedure. Glad it went well, and
if Matt needs to take however long you.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Need, that's right. Family is more important. So man, it's Larry.
Everybody loves Hilarry. Larry is one tough dude. They're making
knockoff heart surgery. It's Larry Blonddale, that's right.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
I think people just you know, when there was tough
losses before I was working in ks Are, I wanted
to hear what Matt had to say, but it kind
of yeah, it kind of made me feel feel a
little bit better, validated how I was feeling. So I
know we're missing Matt today.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
He'll be back.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, well so far, maybe even tomorrow. We'll hear his
take on the game and stuff. So back off, people
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Speaker 5 (37:31):
Give defensive Ryan.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
You can come at me, but don't come at my boys.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Don't come with Larry.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Don't come at Larry crying out loud.

Speaker 6 (37:38):
People have told me, Frank, it's getting a little stale
over here, and then I'm being too negative. Come we
in with some positivity.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Let's do it.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
I don't have any but we can do it.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
Okay, Before we get people are complaining about me complaining.
I don't want to be that guy. I don't want
to be the complain Nobody likes that person.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
We'll take a couple of calls, but before we hang
up tonight, today has to give us something positive.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
I love that, all right, I'm smiling now.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Look, I'm good ready, Shannon, who's next? Cole Cole?

Speaker 13 (38:02):
Go ahead, Cole, Hey, guys, first time, long time listen
every day.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Appreciate your call.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Cole.

Speaker 13 (38:10):
I had two quick questions here, one football, one basketball.
I'll start with the football. I think, for first, I
think Will Sein is a phenomenal hire, arguably could be
potentially the best hire so far in college football, maybe
second behind Lane Kiffin if you count that. But I
will say, for a long time now, I've been saying,

(38:31):
even before Stupis was fired, I said, we really need
an offensive minded coach. We need somebody like Sein or Heartline.
And I had always kind of given Brian Hartline the
edge just because he's kind of known for his recruiting
and sending these guys to the NFL, not that Will
sign hasn't. I just don't know as much about his recruiting.
I was gonna say, if you guys, do we know
what happened with Heartline or if he was even interviewed,

(38:52):
And it just made me think of it because I
saw that he's going to be hired at at South
Florida today. And then I had a basketball question.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
But okay, about that.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
What's your basketball question, We'll do both of them.

Speaker 13 (39:03):
Then, okay, yeah, So I was gonna say, so not
to be negative, I know you're just talking about positivity,
but this question here. I hadn't even thought about this
till this morning. I saw some people saying, you know,
mentioning it on Twitter, just you know, negative fans. But
should we be slightly concerned that Quaintons may not ever
end up playing for US? I know we need him

(39:24):
pretty bad, but you know, with his injury and everything,
I thought maybe if the season's kind of going downhill,
I kind of feel like this has happened to us before.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
All Right, you guys, thank you, Okay, all right, I
appreciate the phone call you take. The Jaden Quainton's question.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
First, I don't expect that at all. I know I've
heard people saying he could Shade and Sharpest. Those are
completely different situations. Sharp actually had the benefit of being
a mystery, having never played like he had amazing high
school highlights. He set out and the NBA rolled the
dice top five pick and it worked. Quainten's kind of
needs to show them that he didn't lose a step
in his rehab because he had good tape at Arizona

(39:59):
State and he blows out his knee and he I mean,
he would still be a high pick. Somebody would take
that chance. But he also can do make himself a
lot of money if he plays and shows that he's
didn't lose a step with that injury and his attitude
has been right from the beginning. I would be surprised
if he doesn't play that.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
I don't think. I think they're completely different scenarios.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Steven, since you're will Stein's twin brother, you take the
will Stein hartline question.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
About whether they which which one they reached out to.

Speaker 6 (40:26):
Yeah, it's I'll answer for Steven well. Stephen was also
he was one of the first to put it out
there about Stein on the job.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
But you won't.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
You've Trinity people. I don't know what's going on there.
If y'all just have these like these underground tunnels and
a little bit and talk to each other, yeah, regardless,
it seemed Stein was high on Kentucky's list early in
the processing one and Kentucky was high on Stein's list,
nailed the interview. They might have had a few conversations
with others, but it looks like they got their number

(40:53):
one guy, and and Stein was a quick yes because
he wanted to be here.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
I feel like they hadn't have make contact with Stein's
people weeks ago. That happens yeah, it should. That happens
all the time. I think Heartline was a good fallback plan.
But obviously he took the job to day at South Florida,
so it all worked out the way it was supposed to.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
Ye, we could all live in a fantasy land where
people wait till the portal to make calls. No, they
are coaches talking to players and coaches talking to school
all season long.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
We didn't act like that doesn't happen, but that happened.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Yeah, absolutely. You know what I thought was weird is
how they've talked about, you know, how young will Stein
is and he's can't he handle this being thirty six
years old? In the SEC. I mean I was looking
up Jim Bayheim. I know, this is basketball. He just
hired a thirty one years old. This used to not
be so crazy. Well old was Rick Patino when he
was at Kentucky thirty seven? Yeah, Mike s Seski, these
are basketball guys. I know, there were just the easy

(41:40):
ones for me to look up. He was thirty three.
I mean, he took over a duke, So it used
to not be that weird, but it's felt like hiring
somebody who was in their thirties felt like like, oh,
we're just hiring somebody straight out of high school. Now,
Like that's what it felt like. So, you know, I'm excited.
Is this the only millennial coach in the athletic department?

Speaker 5 (42:00):
I guess so.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Uh interesting.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I had to think about that.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
It might be, but we.

Speaker 6 (42:04):
Needed the youth. I think it'll be good for him.
As you saw last night, just that energy. Stoops had
a style is more go to work, keep your head down.
Looks like we're gonna have a little more fire with stun.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
All right, thirty seconds, rapid reaction positive before we get
out of here, Drew.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
We're going to Nashville, Western Kentucky's gonna show up, good crowd,
We'll beat Gonzaga.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
We're beating Gonzaga, Steven.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna win one of these next
three games in the don Con and then we're gonna
have a good sec run. I think so, Shannon.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
They didn't score a point in ten minutes and still
one of the lost bout three defense.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Was decent volleyball. Gonna win the title.

Speaker 11 (42:36):
There you go,