December 8, 2025 • 42 mins
Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk Kentucky Basketball's loss to Gonzaga and take your calls.
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Now here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio. Monday, December the eighth.
I am Matt Jones, Ryan Lemon Drew Franklin in studio
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T J. Smith Law Office. If you call TJ He'll
make them pay. Uh. Ryan Drew A, I don't know
what you would say, sad or angry, probably moving towards
angry weekend across a big blue nation. Would you agree
with that?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (01:15):
It's been a long time I think that we've seen
the fan base like this about our basketball program.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
But it is. It is really bad, shockingly bad. I mean, Drew,
we'll get to the scene in Nashville, But would you
have thought ten games into year two you would have
seen this level of anger in BBN.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
No, not at all.
Speaker 7 (01:36):
And we've now it's been a few days since that game,
and I am actually still in the disbelief phase of
what I watched and mostly what I heard from the
fans in Nashville. I didn't have much faith in the game.
We've seen the team lately. They have big problems. But
to look that bad and get that response from some
of your most passionate fans, I still can't even believe
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it happened.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, well, aff nine two eight twenty two eighty seven,
you can give us a shout. Uh. Text machine is
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I'd be remiss if I didn't start off by saying
just a lot of gratitude towards all of you from
the weekend. You know, it's been it's been a tough
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week for uh, for for my family and me. And
you know, the various pieces of news about my dad
have actually come out during the games on the right
game days of Tuesday and Friday, and uh, but people
have had an amazing response, just overwhelming, and I we all, myself,
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my parents really appreciate everyone. Uh. You know, it's it's
it's a difficult situation, but my dad is is is
back home, and I'm gonna kind of leave the rest
of the stuff, uh, sort of private with my family.
But I I I hope you all will understand over
the course for me coming on and doing this show,
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to be quite frank frank with you can be a
good distraction from what's going on, and that's kind of
what I would like to do as much as possible.
But there may be times that I in the coming
weeks have to be gone and I hope people understand that.
And you know, Ryan Drew, thank you guys for stepping
in this weekend, and I'm sure stepping in the future.
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We were supposed to go next week, not this week,
but next week on our yearly kind of December road trip.
We're not gonna do that right now, we'll still be around.
I'm still gonna be around, but I think it's probably
better for us to maybe postpone that maybe until January.
We'll see what happens. But Ryan Drew, I want to
thank you guys and Shannon for really being such good
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friends during all this and helping out. Man.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
You know, we got your back to just hang in there,
be strong. We all love Larry life don't even a
couple of curve balls. But he's a tough old guy man.
And if they making beat fight this, it's Larry Vondelle,
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I'll tell him you said that tough old gosh. Make
sure that that's what we passed.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, we're all here for you, man, and keeping in
our thoughts and just let Larry know that that we're
thinking about them.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, well I appreciate that. And you know this, uh,
at times, sort of doing this and doing it in
a public way and having to go through situations like
this in a public way can sometimes actually make it
more difficult, but then also sometimes UH can can make
it really positive in terms of how people react. So
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but anyway, I hope you understand in doing this show
and kind of going forward. It's just it's it is
kind of a good distraction for me, and we will
we will progress on in that way. And you know,
I love my parents more than anything. And Larry, Larry's
a fighter and and and will continue to do so. So
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shifting gears. A lot of the stuff that happened happened
with me on Friday, So I missed a great deal
of the When I turned the game on, Drew it
was nineteen to two. Oh my, I thought I'm gonna
miss a little bit. Did not think I was gonna
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turn it on and it was going to be nineteen
to two. You were there. I want you to do
me two favors. First of all, explain to me the
scene in the arena, because I generally believe that Nashville
provides the best of Kentucky crowds, literally the best, even
better than Rapperena. Nashville is the best. What was it
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like leading into the game and then sort of what
happened not so much on the court, but in the
crowd during the course of the game.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Well, you're right about Nashville.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
That was BBN at its best, and then maybe it's
worst as it went on. I thought Gonzaga fans might
travel because when they played it up, they barred brought
a good crowd. Of course Seattle that's close to them,
but they had a lot of the fans there. There
weren't many Gonzaga fans in that arena. It was all blue.
I hung around. Yeah, it was full, and it's that
SEC tournament. The rowdy crew that you know you mentioned.
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It's not the normal season ticket holders that have been
spoiled by having seats for so many years. These are
the people that don't get to go to many games,
and they sure showed out. Going into it was a
little weird because everyone was excited, but the confidence wasn't high.
We kind of went in just waiting to see what
Kentucky could do. But then minutes into the game when
they're on that scoring drought, I mean, the reaction in
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there it was just truly shock. And then when they
finally scored to break the drought, the sarcastic cheering our
first basket whatever minutes into the game was I mean,
I couldn't help but laugh, but it was like I'm
ticked off laugh. I just I couldn't believe we were
in that state.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I you know, I want to talk about the buoy
because that's gotten a lot of attention amongst the fan
base and amongst the outside college basketball world, because it
is not something you see a lot in college basketball.
But let's first run, I guess talk about performance. I mean,
we got absolutely demolished, ninety four to fifty nine. I'm
not sure. I was trying to think of a time
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I think Kentucky has been more thoroughly dominated in a
way like that. I mean a couple times I think
we've lost by more points, but this was, in some
ways maybe the worst beating that I've ever seen Kentucky
take because it was from moment one. There was never
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one since where the game was even moderately competitive. And
I think it was a combination, and I think this
is part of why there's so much frustration with the
fan base. Combination of talent, which clearly is part of it,
but also a combination combined that with want to This
was it. I mean when I say they quit, that
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would assume that at some point it felt like they
were in it. Even with that crowd and even with
that Jews. It was a team of no energy and
just it was an embarrassment. It was. I'm not gonna
say it's the worst loss in UK history. There have
been worse, but you know, the Oakland's, the Saint Peters,
et cetera. But in terms of most humiliating performances, Ryan,
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I don't know if there's been one. Do you know?
Speaker 6 (08:22):
It was as poor a performance as I've ever seen.
And you mentioned there there's been some bad losses, but
this time they were they were gutless. There was no effort,
there was no energy, there was no focus. On the
postgame show, Jack Gibbons said, I knew it from the
pregame warm ups that there they were coming out flat
like they weren't ready to play.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well, let's talk about the pregame warm ups for just
a second, because Jack said that. But I was getting messages,
so you know, it was kind of weird because of
what was going on. I had my phone sometimes, I
didn't have it sometimes and I sort of looked like
an hour into it, I got on the text machine,
and Ryan, on your point about pregame warm ups, I
had multiple people writing me saying they were at the
game and they're like, Gonzaga is running like a military
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asque warm up where they're like doing drills, et cetera.
And the Kentucky guys are standing around talking to people.
Talk to me about that. What are they talking about there?
Because I got multiple people saying that before the game
even started.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Yeah, I think it was Gonzaga. They were getting themselves
mentally and physically ready to play, while Kentucky looked like
I think they were out there just shooting baskets, getting
ready to pay a pick up game. Like there was
no focus. A Jack kept using that word, like you
could tell they just weren't focused, no energy at all,
trying to get ready for to play this huge game.
But they have huge crowds. You chant and go big
blue although throughout the arena, and you can't get up
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for it.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I mean, we don't even like you don't even have
to really go over the details of the game because
it was everything you can do. We did poorly. We
did not have energy. The rebounding right after we'd had
multiple we talked about this offensive rebounding thing. Another game
where we get absolutely demolished, and there are multiple videos
online on Tick talking on on Twitter of showing our
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lack of hustle. Basically guys not getting back, guys not
in the right position. There's a really damning, like two
and a half minute clip of this guy just showing
all of Kentucky's errors, also showing Mark Pope making bizarre
coaching errors. They focus on inbounds place where we continue
to put our center guarding the inbounder and end up
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with their ciner being guarded by a six or three guard,
three different possessions, and Pope never changes it up. It drew.
It's I can keep saying embarrassing. I don't want to
keep doing that, but I can't think of a worse
Kentucky performance where they did the name on the jersey
less respect than that one.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
I know, just moping around like they don't even talk
to each other, talking about defending the realm. Grahamy k
could have had one hundred points if he wanted easy.
He was trust every single year. He at least the
last couple of years he had to earn it a
little bit. I mean there was It's like they didn't
have any defense on him whatsoever. And with Pope, yeah,
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he wasn't making the adjustments. But this was my first
game because I went as a fan. I'm not sitting
up in the media seats. I'm a little closer to
where Pope is and I was just watching him. I'm
just as frustrated with how he looks like. He looks
like he doesn't have a single care. Well, I's not
care about an answer or any enthusiasm at all. When
we talked about fans, we're supposed to be the crazy ones,
and we're the ones that are terrified. He looks like
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he's more afraid than any fan in the crowd.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He looks defeated. To me, he looks completely defeated, and
I am shocked by that. I thought, of all people
that have ever coached here, you would never be able
to defeat him in terms of energy. I mean, he's
the guy that when he got hired, Shandon was out
hugging people on the sidewalk like I mean, he's constant energy,
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and he looks defeated. He looks like a man who
just hates his life. And they're just and there comes
a point where you have to sit here and take
a step back from the game and go what has happened?
I mean, this program, it looks like the players cannot
stand each other. Yeah, it looks like they almost have
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zero desire to be on the court. They make terrible errors.
We can talk about the design and roster build, and
I think it's clearly faulty, But they're not even like
they look like a bunch of guys that just met
each other and don't and they and don't want to
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be around each other. I've never seen anything like it,
and I've never seen a coach that in four weeks.
Ryan seems like a more different person than he did
four weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
I'm sure you just got I am.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I am absolutely baffled by how bad they are.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Yeah, I'm sure you got get the same messages I did.
The people that were there, and Drew maybe can say this.
They look on Pope's face like they said, I feel
sorry for him. He looks like he has no idea
what to do, like he's feel sorry for him.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I mean, I like him a lot, but I don't
feel sorry for him like you. You can't. You're the leader,
like sometimes you just have to be the one, even
if it's put on a fake front. Drew, I don't
feel sorry for him. You put this team together, you
coached him. You told us when they were a ferrari
like what's going on?
Speaker 7 (13:30):
And that was a problem for me. Even before this game,
like stick your chest out and be the leader of
Kentucky basketball, Like why are you I keep using the
braveheart reference, like we're at war and he's in the
back of the pack, hiding behind the back line, back
there when he's supposed to be in the front, putting
on a good front. Some leadership here, Like just seeing
looks so scared makes everyone else so scared.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Let's quote our good friend John cal Perry. There's no
crime on the yacht.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
No, there's not.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You're in Kentucky. You spent more money on this roster
than anybody else in the country. You played here, you
don't get to like when the ship's going down, you
have to be at the front. And I I'm baffled.
I'm baffled looking at guys that like otega Oway, who's
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okay although sometimes quit on plays, and I I don't
know how much Shannon I can watch Denzel Aberdeen shoot anymore.
And I and no one just standing out at the
three point line, Like I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's it's like a personality issue that this team has
clashers and you see, like you know, loose balls that
they are just not going after even being.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Going for Look, this roster is poorly constructed, Okay, and
that's a different way. It's poorly constructed, but right, it
ain't getting beat thirty five points in Nashville poorly constructed.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
No, And I think that's the thing that scares me
the most is like they're getting worse, Like they're progressively
getting it's worse, getting worse.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
The Louisville game was a loss, but actually, don't I
think was something to be embarrassed by it. Agree, you
played Louisville on the road, you played them hard, you
came back, you had a shot. The Mischigan State loss
was kind of embarrassing, but they're pretty good. I thought
the North Carolina loss was embarrassing. But this is a whole,
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nother level. Yep, this is a whole Now. You don't
lose by thirty five points to anybody at Kentucky and
I am. I am at a loss for what has happened.
Their roster is bad, badly constructed, but it's not this bad.
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Something has happened with this group, and Mark Pope has
got to like, I don't want to say, hey, go
figure it out, but figure it out because this is
this is ridiculous. Now we do have to talk about
the booty because that's a lot of people have had
strong thoughts. We'll deal with that and take your calls
next to our KASR. Who is this shin Fleetwood Mac?
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What's his name?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
With song Monday Morning?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
So you know, I've actually decided I like Fleetwood Mac.
I had no exposure to them except for that song
that they sang at Bill Clinton's inauguration. I can't remember
what it is, and then silver Spring that was it.
That's all I knew about him. And then over the years,
whether it's that one that they say is the hardest
song to play or this one, I've decided I like
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Fleetwood Mac. Is it just because I'm getting older? I think? So?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, you guys hit the Fleetwood Mic age.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Where is it like forties or Fleetwood at Mac?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, like mid forties you start.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
To get Fleetwood Mac.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, yeah, you go from nineties hip hop to I still.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Like that too, but I kind of like Fleetwood Mac.
I meant to say this at the beginning and I forgot,
So let me just go quickly on the schedule. I'm
going to try to be here every morning show that
I can. I may not always be in uh in
studio or at the bar. I'll try to tell you
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when I am, but I'll try and trying to do
as many of these as I can. I won't be
doing the game stuff tomorrow. Hopefully going forward, I'll be
able to do most of them. But but but I
am going to try to do the morning shows. But
I've just got to say up front, I don't know
uh when I'll be like in person, but I'll be
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around as much as possible. So I just want I
feel like I should let people know that because I
know sometimes people come and want to see us and
remotes we're going to try to do as well. A
five nine, two eighth twenty two eighty seven. All right,
So the booing, I'm not a booer, Okay, Like, I
don't boo anyone except the umpires drew at the Reds game.
That's really the only people I ever bow, right. I
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do boo the umpires at the Reds game because they're
always cheating the Reds and I generally am a don't
boot college kids. Now, the Nile situation has changed stuff
a lot in that regard, and it has not changed
the mind of whether or not I would boo, but
I now understand why people boo a little bit more
you were at the game. One of the things about
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booing is it can be only a few people, and
it can sound like it's everybody, because booing's loud. Booing's
louder than clappy. Sometimes you'll see like the president or
something come to a game. It'll seem like the whole
crowd's booing, but then they show individual shots and it'll
only be a handful of people. It's just booing can
be loud. You're there. What percentage of the audience, Drew,
do you think was actually booing on Friday night?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Oh? It was a lot, is it?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Oh yeah, it was a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
And what do we say, what's a lot percent?
Speaker 5 (18:45):
I'll go twenty. You know, it was like half of
the crowd.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Twenty percent of the crowd was booing.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
It felt like it.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
And I didn't boo. And I'm not trying to say
I'm too good to boot. My jaw was on the
floor and just taking it all in. I'm looking around like,
oh my god, Kentucky fans are booming the home team
like again, that goes back to just the shock of
so many things that happened that night, And can you.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Remember can anybody ever remember booze like that at a
Kentucky It's happened sometimes in football. Can you ever remember
any of you that level booing at a Kentucky basketball They.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Got booed by in the UNC Wilmington lost, But it
wasn't a fraction of the booing.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But this was this was booing, was six minutes to
go in the first half booing. This wasn't at the
end of the game. There were only fourteen minutes into
the game.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Ryan, do you not all boozs are the same. This
was anger, This was coming from This was coming from
the belly. This was like maybe even pent up, going
back to past coaching eras and ok, this was like
a release of I am so disappointed in this program
the last several years.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Ryan, You've been around long as long as I have.
But actually, at the games, can you ever remember it worse? Never? Never?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I mean it was loud and deafening and in the
first half they booed our team off the court. At halftime,
I've never seen that. I mean, it was a bad
look for us, But I kind of outline, I'm like
you I'm not a boorer. I wouldn't do it, but
I understand why some of those people were. They spent
a lot of money to watch that team and then
they stunk it up.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I think it's a coll Okay, So I think I
think you guys hit a majority of why. I think
it happened, all right, So start with five or six
years of kind of being disappointed about UK basketball.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I think that's a part of it. Like we've we've
not been what's the steat We've been to the Saturday
of the SEC Tournament once in the last seven years,
something like that.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
I think the last time we were there is twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Yeah, uh only been far as we've been to Sweet
sixteen and that was last year in the last five
or six years. So I think that's part of it.
I think another part of it is that we've gotten
progressively worse as the season goes around. That we spent
allegedly twenty two million dollars on the roster. I think
that numbers high, but we still probably spend as much
as anybody in college basketball. That we were told by
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the staff and media who kind of believed it that
this was gonna be a Ferrari that we lost at
home to North Carolina on Tuesday, and then that we're
in Nashville. Everybody's been drinking and party and it's that rowdy,
fun Kentucky crowd. And the one thing Kentucky fans won't
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accept is quitting and not giving energy. We had a
team last year that wasn't quite as talented, but it
always felt like every single one of those guys gave
you everything they had, and now this year you get
the exact opposite, or at least it feels like the
exact opposite. Drew. I think it's the combination of all that,
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and then you come off that moment and there's just
this visceral sound and then when a couple people do it,
more join in and you end up with this sort
of chorus of booze. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
I think, you know, a lot of it was just
the excitement of that trip. As we've said, you know,
these this might be the only game a lot of
people see in person all year, might be their only
chance to show their frustration in the team. Then you
throw in all the cocktails that people probably had before
on the street, and just how bad that start was
to go nine minutes without a basket after you just
blew your last game by going ten minutes or whatever
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without a basket. A lot of people were bringing that
up in the arena. How we've almost had twenty minutes
of Kentucky basketball without a field goal?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
What was it? Nineteen and a half minutes of Kentucky
basketball with two field goals?
Speaker 7 (22:28):
And that's when it just snapped, and it was I mean,
I as that was a vicious boo. That wasn't all
we're kind of disappointed, let's play better. That was I
want you to feel how mad we are at you
right now.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Nighteen and a half minutes of consecutive basketball against North
Carolina and Gonzaga, basically at home with two field goals.
I wouldn't have gone ahead, but I kind of understand.
We'll take your calls. R after this KSR. Smith, personal
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injury attorney called TJ he'll make them pay.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. A five nine two eight
twenty two eighty seven on the text machine seven seven
two five two five four one person rights. Matt, I'll
tell you why you don't see the effort. It's in il.
These guys are making money, so they don't feel the
need to try as hard. I don't buy that in.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
The least other teams have nil guys.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Other teams are playing well. Like that. There's a high
level of college basketball being played all over the country.
I would argue outside of Lexington, Kentucky, this is some
of the best basketball I've seen him ten years. Yep,
you turn on these games. Dudes are giving it even
when they're not playing well. I watched some of Michigan
State duke guys diving everywhere, Dudes who are gonna have
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better pro futures than our guys, And yeah, I don't
buy that. We are not giving effort. But I don't
think it's the money. It's these guys in this team,
So you got to adjust. Listen. I watched some of
Shannon Ohio State Indiana football. Those dudes are making money.
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That game didn't even matter and they were going crazy, right,
So yeah, I just don't I don't buy that. All Right,
before we go to the phones, I want all four
of us to take a vote trying to faure out
what's the best way to worry about the booing acceptable
or not? In twenty twenty five Kentucky at Gonzaga, not,
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do you understand is it acceptable to boo your team
in that scenario?
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Ryan, I'm gonna say no.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
You're gonna say no, even though they make money.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That's predictable, even it is predictable.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Of all the four of us, that was the vote
I was most clear we were getting was Ryan was
an vote? Why NOx?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Why that you took it out of the equation understanding
why just understanding?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Is it acceptable?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
No?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
It's not not your own team. Not like that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Okay, Like if if somebody did harm to your child
and then you hurt that person, that might be you
might understand, but it's not acceptable. Right, Yes, so this
is a so but so you're saying that it's my vote?
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Yeah, all right, without hesitation. Yes, it's acceptable. They are
really so bad. I mean, when you don't even try,
that's a different story. If you're losing because shots aren't
going in, or your bad matchup or your coaching fills,
that's you take your loss and you go home. These
are guys that are giving no effort, and in four
games against teams with the pulse have lost by like
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a combined sixty five points.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
So sure, it's.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Stinks that you bow your own team, but it stinks
that your team doesn't show up when the lights come on.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
To Shannon, it.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Is acceptable Ryan to boo that team.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
When you're nine minutes into the game and your best
offense is two free throws, you boo that team. These
fans paid hundreds of not thousands of dollars to come
to Nashville to watch that, and that deserves to be booed.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
That was awful.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
What do you think that if I'm not to it,
I'll see I was hoping you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
No, no, no, no, you said all four of us, You're.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Including no I I was gonna just move on. No, Nope,
I would not do it. I would not recommend doing
But I also think because of the effort, it has
nothing to do for me with the money, and it
actually doesn't have to do with the performance. Okay, if
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I felt like everybody was given one hundred percent effort, engaged, connected,
doing all they can and they just weren't good, then
I can deal with that. That's then a problem of
roster construction, and you deal with the coach and the
people who picked the players, and I do think that's
part of it. But when you're not giving effort, and
(27:00):
that includes to me, the coaching staff. I sit there
and watched the coaching staff just stare straight ahead yep
for the entire game, like none the whole game. I like,
to me, they didn't do anything the entire game. I
think it is acceptable, And I can't believe I'm saying that.
(27:21):
Two years ago, I would have said, you never bow
college kids. Ever, I don't know. I think you never
bow college kids if they at least make it seem
like that doing this matters to them. If they're not
good enough, well that's life. Sometimes we don't get what
we want. But if they're not going to even give effort.
(27:45):
I can't think of the Kentucky team that didn't give effort.
Go to that terrible Kentucky team during COVID. They weren't good,
but they tried. Olivier Saar tried every way to make
a shot to win the game through it just never
went in.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
That was just a gutless It was a gutless performance.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I just can't remember. I can't remember a team that
seemed to lie. I cannot remember any team that liked
each other less than this.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
So that's that's the big, mean dother question. Do you
think a lot of it is internally?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
It had? Well, I mean, at this point it has
to be. Look, there have been teams that didn't like
each other. Okay, team Turmoil in two thousand and two,
they did not like each other. I don't really think
that COVID team liked each other. But even amongst those teams,
Severe Wheeler and Oscar didn't like each other. But even
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amongst those teams, they found ways on the court, sometimes
drew to play connected, and there were even groups of
players that liked each other. I'm not seeing these guys
off the court don't like each other. I don't know,
but I've never seen a team that is like not.
They don't they don't get They look like they've just
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met all of them.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
And I mean, he should have done it in a
while ago. But whatever's going on, Pope needed to have
a team meeting. Say y'all figure it out, because there's
a lot of bigger things going on than whatever y'all
have between yourselves. I mean, I don't Pope clearly doesn't
have the fire that maybe some the potatos, the Kala
Perrys have, but he's got to find something to light
into them.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Otherwise, I don't know what you do. Heck through me.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
I might start Walker Horn and Zach Talo tomorrow night
and try to send a message, because whatever he's telling
them in the locker room, it's not only not working,
it's making them go the opposite direction. They're getting worse
and seem to hate each other more and more by
the day.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
He doesn't scream like Callen Rick, but I know he cares.
I mean, I don't know. It is baffling to me
how they've played this last week. All right, who's up first, Donnie, Donnie,
go ahead, Donnie Man.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
I'm sorry to hear what you've been going through with
your family.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
So.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
I'm in my seventies, I go back a long way.
I've never seen a team this dysfunctional. I think it
goes to the coach, and I love this guy. Players
are dogging it. I would get in their face. I
would meet them on the court. I wouldn't wait for
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them to come to the bench. I would get in
their face. I'd send them to the locker room. I
don't care about the money. You're playing for the university
of Kentucky. This is unacceptable. I'd send them to the
locker room and I'd go through every one of them
until I got down to five players. You don't dog it.
You go to the locker room and when you decide
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you want to play, come back out and play. This
is totally unacceptable. And this didn't start in the Zaga game.
It goes back way before that. And the coach has
got to hold these players accountable. Matt, how do you
fix this problem?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I don't know. If I do how to fix it,
I'd say it. I appreciate the call. What's crazy is that?
Like when they play a bad team, Ryan, they look
really good.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yep, they're going to be.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
It's so crazy. I don't know. I don't know what
it is.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
In Central is ranked three hundred and fiftieth out of
sixty This is going to be a joke.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Like they're awful when but I don't I don't know.
I will tell you what Terrence Ogleby said, Ryan, Do
you know Terrence ogles ogle.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
By is or I don't know who that is.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
He's on field of sixty eight. I think he used
to be a coach, Drew, where is he a coach? Zavior.
Maybe where did he coach? I don't know. He's a
ball guy that's on field of sixty eight. Actually I
think he does a really good job. And he was
talking about Kentucky and he said, look, I really respect
Mark Pope, how smart he is, et cetera. But maybe
(31:58):
he's just too smart right now, he says, he keeps
talking about analytics, he keeps talking about inbound efficiency and
burber Burn, burber Burn, burber bun. He uses these big
words and he brings in four guys and takes him out,
and three guys he's says, they don't even do the
basic things. So he was like, if I was Mart Pope,
I'd throw out all of my catchphrases, all of my
(32:18):
numbers and say let's guard the pick and roll right.
And I actually thought, maybe he's in a case Ryan,
where as smart as he is, he's gotten into his
head and he's almost trying to be too smart, and
we've somehow gotten away from just the basics of basketball.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Yeah, this offense they're running is nothing like we saw
his offense BYU. Like we were so excited about how
they were going to pass the paths and look for
the three point shots.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
See sorry, go ahead, Ryan, No, let's go ahead. Yeah, Shannon, fine,
see if you can find that Terrence Oglesby clip. It's
on Twitter. Okay, and because he can say it better
than me. But I thought it was really good when
he was talking about it.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Who's next, Let's go to Braiden.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Braiden, go ahead and Breik.
Speaker 10 (33:07):
This fan base is broken, no hoping, pope.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
I got a very special song to play.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
All right. I appreciate the call. You're not it's not
a Kentucky fan. No, but that's not a Kentucky fan
because the fan base is not broken. We were very
I mean adam positive about will Stein's hiring. Go look
at the crowd for the volleyball games. That's a Louisville
fan so or an Arkansas fan. It is no one's
fault because they didn't know. But Shannon, this wasn't the
(33:41):
right week for me to have my old comments about
col going to Arkansas go viral.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Every time I got online, that's all I saw. It
was like great. So that made me stay away from
being us many. They really follow me. I think they
may be the fan base that follows me. Second most,
I used to think it was Louisville and Tennessee, but
it might be Arkansas now I'm not sure, but see
(34:09):
if you can find that during the break, Shannon, No,
it's on field of sixty eight. Maybe somebody else sends you, oklip.
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It's KASAR. Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. So the vote
on here looked like it was like three to one
that it would be acceptable to boo with Ryan in dissent. Uh,
let's take a vote on the text. I still think
you get the best cross section of his fans for
me on the text machine. I think Twitter runs a
(35:15):
little negative. Facebook definitely runs negative. Some things like the
postgame show I think run a little positive. So let's
do this just yes or no. Was it acceptable in
that moment for fans to boo? I'm not asking if
you would boo, but is it acceptable to do it?
Just yes or no? I just want to do a
little survey and we'll see. So seven seven two seven
four five two five four yes or no? Just texted him,
(35:38):
all right, So this is what drew This is Terrence
Elgillby when he was talking about maybe Mark Pope being
a little too smart to fix this this year, go
ahead and play.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Because he just doesn't know where to be.
Speaker 9 (35:49):
This is not what Kentucky basketball has become a known ass.
Even with Calipari, at least the effort was there. He
kept it simple. They switched a lot, that's fine, but
the effort was there. Sometimes when they weren't super talented,
the effort was there. Now you're over complicating things, and
I'm tired of hearing about like he talks about eccentric
(36:09):
loads and workloads and work output and all this stuff
that requires three degrees to listen to. How about you
just play off two feet, communicate and switch, and then
make sure when somebody curls you have post help, Like
what are we doing? Get back to the simple parts
of this game as opposed to seven three guys in
every substitution. It was a very frustrating game to watch.
(36:29):
That's kind of where I was at the entire game,
because these are very simple things.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Very well, you think, Drew, He's not wrong, It's a
good way to put it.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
We know Pope likes the analytics and all the detail,
but his guys obviously aren't getting the message. Whether he's
putting too much on him or he's not doing a
good job explaining it. But if they're clearly confused and
not doing what you're supposed to be doing, so he
should go to the very bare minimum of instruction at
this point because any of his ADVANCEDCS metrics and all
that is just going in one out the others. How
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it seems when the players are on the court, Ryan.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
You know this. We're in almost mid December. This is
when you're fine tuning things before you get into conference play,
and it's like we're just getting started, Like they have
no identity whatsoever on offense, I don't I don't know
what kind offen the team we're supposed to be and
this is a time of year where we should be
getting ready to head into like your best play, going
into conference play.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
When I was a kid Shennon in Middlesbrough, sometimes if
I would make a lot of my classmates mad, I
would have people say to me something to the effect of, yeah, Matt,
you might be books smart, but you ain't got no
common sense. They wouldn't say that to me sometimes, right, yep,
And I think I did have common sense, but that
was an interesting way of putting it of, Like you
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can know all the numerical formulas and all the analytic
you know, charts and all that, but sometimes you do
need to have common sense to be able to walk
into a room and like interact with people in a
normal way. I wonder if Mark Pope, just for whatever reason,
can't have the common sense to interact with this team,
(38:06):
they just don't get him. I don't know that that's true,
but Shannon, it could be. It could be. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I mean, analytics are great in certain situations, but they
don't They're not the end all be all When it
comes to winning a basketball game. You know, they don't
tell you a player's effort that they're putting out. They
don't tell you if a players having a personal issue
which is causing them to play bad that day. I mean,
there's certain things that you have to take into consideration
outside of analytics.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
About eighty twenty ryan, yes, of people saying you it's
acceptable to boot, maybe more maybe eighty five fifteen, does
that surprise you?
Speaker 6 (38:39):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
You think that would have been true five years ago.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
No, I've getting ready to say three years ago, maybe
not even true when all the nil stuff was starting
to get started. I think people would thought it would
be unacceptable to boo your own team at basically what
was a home game like that.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah, but that's changed, and I think you know, there's
good that comes within ile and that may be one
of the things you get with more with you know,
to who much is given, much is expected, And that's
probably part of it with this as well. What's next,
Todd Todd?
Speaker 10 (39:11):
Go ahead, Todd, Hey guys, sorry to hear about your dad.
Hope things get better on that end. I took off
Friday and I drove the five hours and spent the
weekend in Nashville, and I go disagree with Drew. I'd
say it's fifty percent booing because that was really really intense.
(39:32):
But another thing. The effort is one thing. But my
girlfriend even looked at me within first two minutes of
the game, she said, why are you guys not playing
with any effort? You guys just look like you're just
glad to be there. And then it was the one
arm passes and not hustling back. And I'm not trying
to say this to be funny by any means, but
our offense. I've seen fifth and sixth grade teams run
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better offense.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Oh, I agree than when I saw Friday night. We're
playing five out drew, five guys behind the three point line,
and we don't have anybody that can shoot or drive.
I mean, we literally are playing an offense. I appreciate
the call that you would play with five sharp shooters.
We're playing Golden State's offense, and Ryan, we don't have
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one guy who can make a three consistently except maybe
Colin Chandler.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
Once we get behind, we become a very selfish basketball team.
Speaker 9 (40:26):
Man.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
Yeah, shoot some bad shots at some bad times.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
It just I mean, Aberdeen's shot selection drives me crazy, Drew.
But at the same time, there's a part of me
that goes, I don't know, man, if you're just standing
out there and everybody's just standing around. But I mean, like,
there's a play that showcased to me how much this
team doesn't like each other. Drew. Aberdeen drives the pain.
He gets double team. He throws up a shot and
it goes nowhere, always opening the corner. He doesn't pass
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it to oh Way, and after he doesn't pass it,
Oway just acts like he shot it, like he does
the motion, and it was one of the most kind
of blank you things I've seen a plan to a teammate.
I mean, maybe those two like each other, but it
sure doesn't feel like it.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
Yeah, I saw that go pretty viral. I mean, always
pretty much just calling him out for not making the past,
which has been a problem all season with these guys.
That's on court chemistry that they have fallen apart, and
on the on the analytics, and Pope relyon on that
too much. When he says things like, well, you know,
Brandon Garrison's are most efficient, It's like, no, just use
your eyeballs, don't I don't please, do not tell me
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how efficient Brandon Garrison.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Is, but for one against Gonzaga.
Speaker 7 (41:38):
When he says stuff like that that he's locking too
much of the numbers, like no one else is seeing that?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
No?
Speaker 6 (41:43):
What?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
No? All right, so now we all know it's awful?
Can it be better? Jaden Quaintance is allegedly, according to
Matt and Orlander, going to return against Saint John's. Well
that helped. Do you think this can turn around? We
will deal with that. Plus I want to talk a
little UK volleyball. They make it to the second round,
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will Stein's making moves? Are you gonna pull for Oregon
in the playoff? We will deal with all that and
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make them pay. Uh. Ryan Drew A, I don't know
what you would say, sad or angry, probably moving towards
angry weekend across a big blue nation. Would you agree
with that?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (01:15):
It's been a long time I think that we've seen
the fan base like this about our basketball program.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
But it is. It is really bad, shockingly bad. I mean, Drew,
we'll get to the scene in Nashville, But would you
have thought ten games into year two you would have
seen this level of anger in BBN.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
No, not at all.
Speaker 7 (01:36):
And we've now it's been a few days since that game,
and I am actually still in the disbelief phase of
what I watched and mostly what I heard from the
fans in Nashville. I didn't have much faith in the game.
We've seen the team lately. They have big problems. But
to look that bad and get that response from some
of your most passionate fans, I still can't even believe
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it happened.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, well, aff nine two eight twenty two eighty seven,
you can give us a shout. Uh. Text machine is
seven seven two seven seven four five two five four Uh.
I'd be remiss if I didn't start off by saying
just a lot of gratitude towards all of you from
the weekend. You know, it's been it's been a tough
(02:18):
week for uh, for for my family and me. And
you know, the various pieces of news about my dad
have actually come out during the games on the right
game days of Tuesday and Friday, and uh, but people
have had an amazing response, just overwhelming, and I we all, myself,
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my parents really appreciate everyone. Uh. You know, it's it's
it's a difficult situation, but my dad is is is
back home, and I'm gonna kind of leave the rest
of the stuff, uh, sort of private with my family.
But I I I hope you all will understand over
the course for me coming on and doing this show,
(03:05):
to be quite frank frank with you can be a
good distraction from what's going on, and that's kind of
what I would like to do as much as possible.
But there may be times that I in the coming
weeks have to be gone and I hope people understand that.
And you know, Ryan Drew, thank you guys for stepping
in this weekend, and I'm sure stepping in the future.
(03:27):
We were supposed to go next week, not this week,
but next week on our yearly kind of December road trip.
We're not gonna do that right now, we'll still be around.
I'm still gonna be around, but I think it's probably
better for us to maybe postpone that maybe until January.
We'll see what happens. But Ryan Drew, I want to
thank you guys and Shannon for really being such good
(03:49):
friends during all this and helping out. Man.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
You know, we got your back to just hang in there,
be strong. We all love Larry life don't even a
couple of curve balls. But he's a tough old guy man.
And if they making beat fight this, it's Larry Vondelle,
There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I'll tell him you said that tough old gosh. Make
sure that that's what we passed.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, we're all here for you, man, and keeping in
our thoughts and just let Larry know that that we're
thinking about them.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, well I appreciate that. And you know this, uh,
at times, sort of doing this and doing it in
a public way and having to go through situations like
this in a public way can sometimes actually make it
more difficult, but then also sometimes UH can can make
it really positive in terms of how people react. So
(04:39):
but anyway, I hope you understand in doing this show
and kind of going forward. It's just it's it is
kind of a good distraction for me, and we will
we will progress on in that way. And you know,
I love my parents more than anything. And Larry, Larry's
a fighter and and and will continue to do so. So
(05:01):
shifting gears. A lot of the stuff that happened happened
with me on Friday, So I missed a great deal
of the When I turned the game on, Drew it
was nineteen to two. Oh my, I thought I'm gonna
miss a little bit. Did not think I was gonna
(05:23):
turn it on and it was going to be nineteen
to two. You were there. I want you to do
me two favors. First of all, explain to me the
scene in the arena, because I generally believe that Nashville
provides the best of Kentucky crowds, literally the best, even
better than Rapperena. Nashville is the best. What was it
(05:44):
like leading into the game and then sort of what
happened not so much on the court, but in the
crowd during the course of the game.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Well, you're right about Nashville.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
That was BBN at its best, and then maybe it's
worst as it went on. I thought Gonzaga fans might
travel because when they played it up, they barred brought
a good crowd. Of course Seattle that's close to them,
but they had a lot of the fans there. There
weren't many Gonzaga fans in that arena. It was all blue.
I hung around. Yeah, it was full, and it's that
SEC tournament. The rowdy crew that you know you mentioned.
(06:14):
It's not the normal season ticket holders that have been
spoiled by having seats for so many years. These are
the people that don't get to go to many games,
and they sure showed out. Going into it was a
little weird because everyone was excited, but the confidence wasn't high.
We kind of went in just waiting to see what
Kentucky could do. But then minutes into the game when
they're on that scoring drought, I mean, the reaction in
(06:35):
there it was just truly shock. And then when they
finally scored to break the drought, the sarcastic cheering our
first basket whatever minutes into the game was I mean,
I couldn't help but laugh, but it was like I'm
ticked off laugh. I just I couldn't believe we were
in that state.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I you know, I want to talk about the buoy
because that's gotten a lot of attention amongst the fan
base and amongst the outside college basketball world, because it
is not something you see a lot in college basketball.
But let's first run, I guess talk about performance. I mean,
we got absolutely demolished, ninety four to fifty nine. I'm
not sure. I was trying to think of a time
(07:12):
I think Kentucky has been more thoroughly dominated in a
way like that. I mean a couple times I think
we've lost by more points, but this was, in some
ways maybe the worst beating that I've ever seen Kentucky
take because it was from moment one. There was never
(07:33):
one since where the game was even moderately competitive. And
I think it was a combination, and I think this
is part of why there's so much frustration with the
fan base. Combination of talent, which clearly is part of it,
but also a combination combined that with want to This
was it. I mean when I say they quit, that
(07:53):
would assume that at some point it felt like they
were in it. Even with that crowd and even with
that Jews. It was a team of no energy and
just it was an embarrassment. It was. I'm not gonna
say it's the worst loss in UK history. There have
been worse, but you know, the Oakland's, the Saint Peters,
et cetera. But in terms of most humiliating performances, Ryan,
(08:20):
I don't know if there's been one. Do you know?
Speaker 6 (08:22):
It was as poor a performance as I've ever seen.
And you mentioned there there's been some bad losses, but
this time they were they were gutless. There was no effort,
there was no energy, there was no focus. On the
postgame show, Jack Gibbons said, I knew it from the
pregame warm ups that there they were coming out flat
like they weren't ready to play.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well, let's talk about the pregame warm ups for just
a second, because Jack said that. But I was getting messages,
so you know, it was kind of weird because of
what was going on. I had my phone sometimes, I
didn't have it sometimes and I sort of looked like
an hour into it, I got on the text machine,
and Ryan, on your point about pregame warm ups, I
had multiple people writing me saying they were at the
game and they're like, Gonzaga is running like a military
(09:03):
asque warm up where they're like doing drills, et cetera.
And the Kentucky guys are standing around talking to people.
Talk to me about that. What are they talking about there?
Because I got multiple people saying that before the game
even started.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Yeah, I think it was Gonzaga. They were getting themselves
mentally and physically ready to play, while Kentucky looked like
I think they were out there just shooting baskets, getting
ready to pay a pick up game. Like there was
no focus. A Jack kept using that word, like you
could tell they just weren't focused, no energy at all,
trying to get ready for to play this huge game.
But they have huge crowds. You chant and go big
blue although throughout the arena, and you can't get up
(09:38):
for it.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I mean, we don't even like you don't even have
to really go over the details of the game because
it was everything you can do. We did poorly. We
did not have energy. The rebounding right after we'd had
multiple we talked about this offensive rebounding thing. Another game
where we get absolutely demolished, and there are multiple videos
online on Tick talking on on Twitter of showing our
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lack of hustle. Basically guys not getting back, guys not
in the right position. There's a really damning, like two
and a half minute clip of this guy just showing
all of Kentucky's errors, also showing Mark Pope making bizarre
coaching errors. They focus on inbounds place where we continue
to put our center guarding the inbounder and end up
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with their ciner being guarded by a six or three guard,
three different possessions, and Pope never changes it up. It drew.
It's I can keep saying embarrassing. I don't want to
keep doing that, but I can't think of a worse
Kentucky performance where they did the name on the jersey
less respect than that one.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
I know, just moping around like they don't even talk
to each other, talking about defending the realm. Grahamy k
could have had one hundred points if he wanted easy.
He was trust every single year. He at least the
last couple of years he had to earn it a
little bit. I mean there was It's like they didn't
have any defense on him whatsoever. And with Pope, yeah,
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he wasn't making the adjustments. But this was my first
game because I went as a fan. I'm not sitting
up in the media seats. I'm a little closer to
where Pope is and I was just watching him. I'm
just as frustrated with how he looks like. He looks
like he doesn't have a single care. Well, I's not
care about an answer or any enthusiasm at all. When
we talked about fans, we're supposed to be the crazy ones,
and we're the ones that are terrified. He looks like
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he's more afraid than any fan in the crowd.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He looks defeated. To me, he looks completely defeated, and
I am shocked by that. I thought, of all people
that have ever coached here, you would never be able
to defeat him in terms of energy. I mean, he's
the guy that when he got hired, Shandon was out
hugging people on the sidewalk like I mean, he's constant energy,
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and he looks defeated. He looks like a man who
just hates his life. And they're just and there comes
a point where you have to sit here and take
a step back from the game and go what has happened?
I mean, this program, it looks like the players cannot
stand each other. Yeah, it looks like they almost have
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zero desire to be on the court. They make terrible errors.
We can talk about the design and roster build, and
I think it's clearly faulty, But they're not even like
they look like a bunch of guys that just met
each other and don't and they and don't want to
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be around each other. I've never seen anything like it,
and I've never seen a coach that in four weeks.
Ryan seems like a more different person than he did
four weeks ago.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
I'm sure you just got I am.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I am absolutely baffled by how bad they are.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Yeah, I'm sure you got get the same messages I did.
The people that were there, and Drew maybe can say this.
They look on Pope's face like they said, I feel
sorry for him. He looks like he has no idea
what to do, like he's feel sorry for him.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I mean, I like him a lot, but I don't
feel sorry for him like you. You can't. You're the leader,
like sometimes you just have to be the one, even
if it's put on a fake front. Drew, I don't
feel sorry for him. You put this team together, you
coached him. You told us when they were a ferrari
like what's going on?
Speaker 7 (13:30):
And that was a problem for me. Even before this game,
like stick your chest out and be the leader of
Kentucky basketball, Like why are you I keep using the
braveheart reference, like we're at war and he's in the
back of the pack, hiding behind the back line, back
there when he's supposed to be in the front, putting
on a good front. Some leadership here, Like just seeing
looks so scared makes everyone else so scared.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Let's quote our good friend John cal Perry. There's no
crime on the yacht.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
No, there's not.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You're in Kentucky. You spent more money on this roster
than anybody else in the country. You played here, you
don't get to like when the ship's going down, you
have to be at the front. And I I'm baffled.
I'm baffled looking at guys that like otega Oway, who's
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okay although sometimes quit on plays, and I I don't
know how much Shannon I can watch Denzel Aberdeen shoot anymore.
And I and no one just standing out at the
three point line, Like I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's it's like a personality issue that this team has
clashers and you see, like you know, loose balls that
they are just not going after even being.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Going for Look, this roster is poorly constructed, Okay, and
that's a different way. It's poorly constructed, but right, it
ain't getting beat thirty five points in Nashville poorly constructed.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
No, And I think that's the thing that scares me
the most is like they're getting worse, Like they're progressively
getting it's worse, getting worse.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
The Louisville game was a loss, but actually, don't I
think was something to be embarrassed by it. Agree, you
played Louisville on the road, you played them hard, you
came back, you had a shot. The Mischigan State loss
was kind of embarrassing, but they're pretty good. I thought
the North Carolina loss was embarrassing. But this is a whole,
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nother level. Yep, this is a whole Now. You don't
lose by thirty five points to anybody at Kentucky and
I am. I am at a loss for what has happened.
Their roster is bad, badly constructed, but it's not this bad.
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Something has happened with this group, and Mark Pope has
got to like, I don't want to say, hey, go
figure it out, but figure it out because this is
this is ridiculous. Now we do have to talk about
the booty because that's a lot of people have had
strong thoughts. We'll deal with that and take your calls
next to our KASR. Who is this shin Fleetwood Mac?
(16:07):
What's his name?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
With song Monday Morning?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
So you know, I've actually decided I like Fleetwood Mac.
I had no exposure to them except for that song
that they sang at Bill Clinton's inauguration. I can't remember
what it is, and then silver Spring that was it.
That's all I knew about him. And then over the years,
whether it's that one that they say is the hardest
song to play or this one, I've decided I like
(16:31):
Fleetwood Mac. Is it just because I'm getting older? I think? So?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, you guys hit the Fleetwood Mic age.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Where is it like forties or Fleetwood at Mac?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, like mid forties you start.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
To get Fleetwood Mac.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, yeah, you go from nineties hip hop to I still.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Like that too, but I kind of like Fleetwood Mac.
I meant to say this at the beginning and I forgot,
So let me just go quickly on the schedule. I'm
going to try to be here every morning show that
I can. I may not always be in uh in
studio or at the bar. I'll try to tell you
(17:07):
when I am, but I'll try and trying to do
as many of these as I can. I won't be
doing the game stuff tomorrow. Hopefully going forward, I'll be
able to do most of them. But but but I
am going to try to do the morning shows. But
I've just got to say up front, I don't know
uh when I'll be like in person, but I'll be
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around as much as possible. So I just want I
feel like I should let people know that because I
know sometimes people come and want to see us and
remotes we're going to try to do as well. A
five nine, two eighth twenty two eighty seven. All right,
So the booing, I'm not a booer, Okay, Like, I
don't boo anyone except the umpires drew at the Reds game.
That's really the only people I ever bow, right. I
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do boo the umpires at the Reds game because they're
always cheating the Reds and I generally am a don't
boot college kids. Now, the Nile situation has changed stuff
a lot in that regard, and it has not changed
the mind of whether or not I would boo, but
I now understand why people boo a little bit more
you were at the game. One of the things about
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booing is it can be only a few people, and
it can sound like it's everybody, because booing's loud. Booing's
louder than clappy. Sometimes you'll see like the president or
something come to a game. It'll seem like the whole
crowd's booing, but then they show individual shots and it'll
only be a handful of people. It's just booing can
be loud. You're there. What percentage of the audience, Drew,
do you think was actually booing on Friday night?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Oh? It was a lot, is it?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (18:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Oh yeah, it was a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
And what do we say, what's a lot percent?
Speaker 5 (18:45):
I'll go twenty. You know, it was like half of
the crowd.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Twenty percent of the crowd was booing.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
It felt like it.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
And I didn't boo. And I'm not trying to say
I'm too good to boot. My jaw was on the
floor and just taking it all in. I'm looking around like,
oh my god, Kentucky fans are booming the home team
like again, that goes back to just the shock of
so many things that happened that night, And can you.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Remember can anybody ever remember booze like that at a
Kentucky It's happened sometimes in football. Can you ever remember
any of you that level booing at a Kentucky basketball They.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Got booed by in the UNC Wilmington lost, But it
wasn't a fraction of the booing.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
But this was this was booing, was six minutes to
go in the first half booing. This wasn't at the
end of the game. There were only fourteen minutes into
the game.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Ryan, do you not all boozs are the same. This
was anger, This was coming from This was coming from
the belly. This was like maybe even pent up, going
back to past coaching eras and ok, this was like
a release of I am so disappointed in this program
the last several years.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Ryan, You've been around long as long as I have.
But actually, at the games, can you ever remember it worse? Never? Never?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I mean it was loud and deafening and in the
first half they booed our team off the court. At halftime,
I've never seen that. I mean, it was a bad
look for us, But I kind of outline, I'm like
you I'm not a boorer. I wouldn't do it, but
I understand why some of those people were. They spent
a lot of money to watch that team and then
they stunk it up.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I think it's a coll Okay, So I think I
think you guys hit a majority of why. I think
it happened, all right, So start with five or six
years of kind of being disappointed about UK basketball.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I think that's a part of it. Like we've we've
not been what's the steat We've been to the Saturday
of the SEC Tournament once in the last seven years,
something like that.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
I think the last time we were there is twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Yeah, uh only been far as we've been to Sweet
sixteen and that was last year in the last five
or six years. So I think that's part of it.
I think another part of it is that we've gotten
progressively worse as the season goes around. That we spent
allegedly twenty two million dollars on the roster. I think
that numbers high, but we still probably spend as much
as anybody in college basketball. That we were told by
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the staff and media who kind of believed it that
this was gonna be a Ferrari that we lost at
home to North Carolina on Tuesday, and then that we're
in Nashville. Everybody's been drinking and party and it's that rowdy,
fun Kentucky crowd. And the one thing Kentucky fans won't
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accept is quitting and not giving energy. We had a
team last year that wasn't quite as talented, but it
always felt like every single one of those guys gave
you everything they had, and now this year you get
the exact opposite, or at least it feels like the
exact opposite. Drew. I think it's the combination of all that,
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and then you come off that moment and there's just
this visceral sound and then when a couple people do it,
more join in and you end up with this sort
of chorus of booze. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
I think, you know, a lot of it was just
the excitement of that trip. As we've said, you know,
these this might be the only game a lot of
people see in person all year, might be their only
chance to show their frustration in the team. Then you
throw in all the cocktails that people probably had before
on the street, and just how bad that start was
to go nine minutes without a basket after you just
blew your last game by going ten minutes or whatever
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without a basket. A lot of people were bringing that
up in the arena. How we've almost had twenty minutes
of Kentucky basketball without a field goal?
Speaker 4 (22:24):
What was it? Nineteen and a half minutes of Kentucky
basketball with two field goals?
Speaker 7 (22:28):
And that's when it just snapped, and it was I mean,
I as that was a vicious boo. That wasn't all
we're kind of disappointed, let's play better. That was I
want you to feel how mad we are at you
right now.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Nighteen and a half minutes of consecutive basketball against North
Carolina and Gonzaga, basically at home with two field goals.
I wouldn't have gone ahead, but I kind of understand.
We'll take your calls. R after this KSR. Smith, personal
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Speaker 2 (23:03):
Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Here's Matt Jones.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. A five nine two eight
twenty two eighty seven on the text machine seven seven
two five two five four one person rights. Matt, I'll
tell you why you don't see the effort. It's in il.
These guys are making money, so they don't feel the
need to try as hard. I don't buy that in.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
The least other teams have nil guys.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Other teams are playing well. Like that. There's a high
level of college basketball being played all over the country.
I would argue outside of Lexington, Kentucky, this is some
of the best basketball I've seen him ten years. Yep,
you turn on these games. Dudes are giving it even
when they're not playing well. I watched some of Michigan
State duke guys diving everywhere, Dudes who are gonna have
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better pro futures than our guys, And yeah, I don't
buy that. We are not giving effort. But I don't
think it's the money. It's these guys in this team,
So you got to adjust. Listen. I watched some of
Shannon Ohio State Indiana football. Those dudes are making money.
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That game didn't even matter and they were going crazy, right,
So yeah, I just don't I don't buy that. All Right,
before we go to the phones, I want all four
of us to take a vote trying to faure out
what's the best way to worry about the booing acceptable
or not? In twenty twenty five Kentucky at Gonzaga, not,
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do you understand is it acceptable to boo your team
in that scenario?
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Ryan, I'm gonna say no.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
You're gonna say no, even though they make money.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That's predictable, even it is predictable.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Of all the four of us, that was the vote
I was most clear we were getting was Ryan was
an vote? Why NOx?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Why that you took it out of the equation understanding
why just understanding?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Is it acceptable?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
No?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
It's not not your own team. Not like that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Okay, Like if if somebody did harm to your child
and then you hurt that person, that might be you
might understand, but it's not acceptable. Right, Yes, so this
is a so but so you're saying that it's my vote?
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Yeah, all right, without hesitation. Yes, it's acceptable. They are
really so bad. I mean, when you don't even try,
that's a different story. If you're losing because shots aren't
going in, or your bad matchup or your coaching fills,
that's you take your loss and you go home. These
are guys that are giving no effort, and in four
games against teams with the pulse have lost by like
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a combined sixty five points.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
So sure, it's.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Stinks that you bow your own team, but it stinks
that your team doesn't show up when the lights come on.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
To Shannon, it.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Is acceptable Ryan to boo that team.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
When you're nine minutes into the game and your best
offense is two free throws, you boo that team. These
fans paid hundreds of not thousands of dollars to come
to Nashville to watch that, and that deserves to be booed.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
That was awful.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
What do you think that if I'm not to it,
I'll see I was hoping you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
No, no, no, no, you said all four of us, You're.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Including no I I was gonna just move on. No, Nope,
I would not do it. I would not recommend doing
But I also think because of the effort, it has
nothing to do for me with the money, and it
actually doesn't have to do with the performance. Okay, if
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I felt like everybody was given one hundred percent effort, engaged, connected,
doing all they can and they just weren't good, then
I can deal with that. That's then a problem of
roster construction, and you deal with the coach and the
people who picked the players, and I do think that's
part of it. But when you're not giving effort, and
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that includes to me, the coaching staff. I sit there
and watched the coaching staff just stare straight ahead yep
for the entire game, like none the whole game. I like,
to me, they didn't do anything the entire game. I
think it is acceptable, And I can't believe I'm saying that.
(27:21):
Two years ago, I would have said, you never bow
college kids. Ever, I don't know. I think you never
bow college kids if they at least make it seem
like that doing this matters to them. If they're not
good enough, well that's life. Sometimes we don't get what
we want. But if they're not going to even give effort.
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I can't think of the Kentucky team that didn't give effort.
Go to that terrible Kentucky team during COVID. They weren't good,
but they tried. Olivier Saar tried every way to make
a shot to win the game through it just never
went in.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
That was just a gutless It was a gutless performance.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I just can't remember. I can't remember a team that
seemed to lie. I cannot remember any team that liked
each other less than this.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
So that's that's the big, mean dother question. Do you
think a lot of it is internally?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
It had? Well, I mean, at this point it has
to be. Look, there have been teams that didn't like
each other. Okay, team Turmoil in two thousand and two,
they did not like each other. I don't really think
that COVID team liked each other. But even amongst those teams,
Severe Wheeler and Oscar didn't like each other. But even
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amongst those teams, they found ways on the court, sometimes
drew to play connected, and there were even groups of
players that liked each other. I'm not seeing these guys
off the court don't like each other. I don't know,
but I've never seen a team that is like not.
They don't they don't get They look like they've just
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met all of them.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
And I mean, he should have done it in a
while ago. But whatever's going on, Pope needed to have
a team meeting. Say y'all figure it out, because there's
a lot of bigger things going on than whatever y'all
have between yourselves. I mean, I don't Pope clearly doesn't
have the fire that maybe some the potatos, the Kala
Perrys have, but he's got to find something to light
into them.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Otherwise, I don't know what you do. Heck through me.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
I might start Walker Horn and Zach Talo tomorrow night
and try to send a message, because whatever he's telling
them in the locker room, it's not only not working,
it's making them go the opposite direction. They're getting worse
and seem to hate each other more and more by
the day.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
He doesn't scream like Callen Rick, but I know he cares.
I mean, I don't know. It is baffling to me
how they've played this last week. All right, who's up first, Donnie, Donnie,
go ahead, Donnie Man.
Speaker 8 (29:50):
I'm sorry to hear what you've been going through with
your family.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
So.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
I'm in my seventies, I go back a long way.
I've never seen a team this dysfunctional. I think it
goes to the coach, and I love this guy. Players
are dogging it. I would get in their face. I
would meet them on the court. I wouldn't wait for
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them to come to the bench. I would get in
their face. I'd send them to the locker room. I
don't care about the money. You're playing for the university
of Kentucky. This is unacceptable. I'd send them to the
locker room and I'd go through every one of them
until I got down to five players. You don't dog it.
You go to the locker room and when you decide
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you want to play, come back out and play. This
is totally unacceptable. And this didn't start in the Zaga game.
It goes back way before that. And the coach has
got to hold these players accountable. Matt, how do you
fix this problem?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
I don't know. If I do how to fix it,
I'd say it. I appreciate the call. What's crazy is that?
Like when they play a bad team, Ryan, they look
really good.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yep, they're going to be.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
It's so crazy. I don't know. I don't know what
it is.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
In Central is ranked three hundred and fiftieth out of
sixty This is going to be a joke.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Like they're awful when but I don't I don't know.
I will tell you what Terrence Ogleby said, Ryan, Do
you know Terrence ogles ogle.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
By is or I don't know who that is.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
He's on field of sixty eight. I think he used
to be a coach, Drew, where is he a coach? Zavior.
Maybe where did he coach? I don't know. He's a
ball guy that's on field of sixty eight. Actually I
think he does a really good job. And he was
talking about Kentucky and he said, look, I really respect
Mark Pope, how smart he is, et cetera. But maybe
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he's just too smart right now, he says, he keeps
talking about analytics, he keeps talking about inbound efficiency and
burber Burn, burber Burn, burber bun. He uses these big
words and he brings in four guys and takes him out,
and three guys he's says, they don't even do the
basic things. So he was like, if I was Mart Pope,
I'd throw out all of my catchphrases, all of my
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numbers and say let's guard the pick and roll right.
And I actually thought, maybe he's in a case Ryan,
where as smart as he is, he's gotten into his
head and he's almost trying to be too smart, and
we've somehow gotten away from just the basics of basketball.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Yeah, this offense they're running is nothing like we saw
his offense BYU. Like we were so excited about how
they were going to pass the paths and look for
the three point shots.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
See sorry, go ahead, Ryan, No, let's go ahead. Yeah, Shannon, fine,
see if you can find that Terrence Oglesby clip. It's
on Twitter. Okay, and because he can say it better
than me. But I thought it was really good when
he was talking about it.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Who's next, Let's go to Braiden.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Braiden, go ahead and Breik.
Speaker 10 (33:07):
This fan base is broken, no hoping, pope.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
I got a very special song to play.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
All right. I appreciate the call. You're not it's not
a Kentucky fan. No, but that's not a Kentucky fan
because the fan base is not broken. We were very
I mean adam positive about will Stein's hiring. Go look
at the crowd for the volleyball games. That's a Louisville
fan so or an Arkansas fan. It is no one's
fault because they didn't know. But Shannon, this wasn't the
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right week for me to have my old comments about
col going to Arkansas go viral.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Every time I got online, that's all I saw. It
was like great. So that made me stay away from
being us many. They really follow me. I think they
may be the fan base that follows me. Second most,
I used to think it was Louisville and Tennessee, but
it might be Arkansas now I'm not sure, but see
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if you can find that during the break, Shannon, No,
it's on field of sixty eight. Maybe somebody else sends you, oklip.
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(34:55):
It's KASAR. Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. So the vote
on here looked like it was like three to one
that it would be acceptable to boo with Ryan in dissent. Uh,
let's take a vote on the text. I still think
you get the best cross section of his fans for
me on the text machine. I think Twitter runs a
(35:15):
little negative. Facebook definitely runs negative. Some things like the
postgame show I think run a little positive. So let's
do this just yes or no. Was it acceptable in
that moment for fans to boo? I'm not asking if
you would boo, but is it acceptable to do it?
Just yes or no? I just want to do a
little survey and we'll see. So seven seven two seven
four five two five four yes or no? Just texted him,
(35:38):
all right, So this is what drew This is Terrence
Elgillby when he was talking about maybe Mark Pope being
a little too smart to fix this this year, go
ahead and play.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Because he just doesn't know where to be.
Speaker 9 (35:49):
This is not what Kentucky basketball has become a known ass.
Even with Calipari, at least the effort was there. He
kept it simple. They switched a lot, that's fine, but
the effort was there. Sometimes when they weren't super talented,
the effort was there. Now you're over complicating things, and
I'm tired of hearing about like he talks about eccentric
(36:09):
loads and workloads and work output and all this stuff
that requires three degrees to listen to. How about you
just play off two feet, communicate and switch, and then
make sure when somebody curls you have post help, Like
what are we doing? Get back to the simple parts
of this game as opposed to seven three guys in
every substitution. It was a very frustrating game to watch.
(36:29):
That's kind of where I was at the entire game,
because these are very simple things.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Very well, you think, Drew, He's not wrong, It's a
good way to put it.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
We know Pope likes the analytics and all the detail,
but his guys obviously aren't getting the message. Whether he's
putting too much on him or he's not doing a
good job explaining it. But if they're clearly confused and
not doing what you're supposed to be doing, so he
should go to the very bare minimum of instruction at
this point because any of his ADVANCEDCS metrics and all
that is just going in one out the others. How
(37:00):
it seems when the players are on the court, Ryan.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
You know this. We're in almost mid December. This is
when you're fine tuning things before you get into conference play,
and it's like we're just getting started, Like they have
no identity whatsoever on offense, I don't I don't know
what kind offen the team we're supposed to be and
this is a time of year where we should be
getting ready to head into like your best play, going
into conference play.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
When I was a kid Shennon in Middlesbrough, sometimes if
I would make a lot of my classmates mad, I
would have people say to me something to the effect of, yeah, Matt,
you might be books smart, but you ain't got no
common sense. They wouldn't say that to me sometimes, right, yep,
And I think I did have common sense, but that
was an interesting way of putting it of, Like you
(37:46):
can know all the numerical formulas and all the analytic
you know, charts and all that, but sometimes you do
need to have common sense to be able to walk
into a room and like interact with people in a
normal way. I wonder if Mark Pope, just for whatever reason,
can't have the common sense to interact with this team,
(38:06):
they just don't get him. I don't know that that's true,
but Shannon, it could be. It could be. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I mean, analytics are great in certain situations, but they
don't They're not the end all be all When it
comes to winning a basketball game. You know, they don't
tell you a player's effort that they're putting out. They
don't tell you if a players having a personal issue
which is causing them to play bad that day. I mean,
there's certain things that you have to take into consideration
outside of analytics.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
About eighty twenty ryan, yes, of people saying you it's
acceptable to boot, maybe more maybe eighty five fifteen, does
that surprise you?
Speaker 6 (38:39):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
You think that would have been true five years ago.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
No, I've getting ready to say three years ago, maybe
not even true when all the nil stuff was starting
to get started. I think people would thought it would
be unacceptable to boo your own team at basically what
was a home game like that.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Yeah, but that's changed, and I think you know, there's
good that comes within ile and that may be one
of the things you get with more with you know,
to who much is given, much is expected, And that's
probably part of it with this as well. What's next,
Todd Todd?
Speaker 10 (39:11):
Go ahead, Todd, Hey guys, sorry to hear about your dad.
Hope things get better on that end. I took off
Friday and I drove the five hours and spent the
weekend in Nashville, and I go disagree with Drew. I'd
say it's fifty percent booing because that was really really intense.
(39:32):
But another thing. The effort is one thing. But my
girlfriend even looked at me within first two minutes of
the game, she said, why are you guys not playing
with any effort? You guys just look like you're just
glad to be there. And then it was the one
arm passes and not hustling back. And I'm not trying
to say this to be funny by any means, but
our offense. I've seen fifth and sixth grade teams run
(39:55):
better offense.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Oh, I agree than when I saw Friday night. We're
playing five out drew, five guys behind the three point line,
and we don't have anybody that can shoot or drive.
I mean, we literally are playing an offense. I appreciate
the call that you would play with five sharp shooters.
We're playing Golden State's offense, and Ryan, we don't have
(40:18):
one guy who can make a three consistently except maybe
Colin Chandler.
Speaker 6 (40:22):
Once we get behind, we become a very selfish basketball team.
Speaker 9 (40:26):
Man.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
Yeah, shoot some bad shots at some bad times.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
It just I mean, Aberdeen's shot selection drives me crazy, Drew.
But at the same time, there's a part of me
that goes, I don't know, man, if you're just standing
out there and everybody's just standing around. But I mean, like,
there's a play that showcased to me how much this
team doesn't like each other. Drew. Aberdeen drives the pain.
He gets double team. He throws up a shot and
it goes nowhere, always opening the corner. He doesn't pass
(40:53):
it to oh Way, and after he doesn't pass it,
Oway just acts like he shot it, like he does
the motion, and it was one of the most kind
of blank you things I've seen a plan to a teammate.
I mean, maybe those two like each other, but it
sure doesn't feel like it.
Speaker 7 (41:09):
Yeah, I saw that go pretty viral. I mean, always
pretty much just calling him out for not making the past,
which has been a problem all season with these guys.
That's on court chemistry that they have fallen apart, and
on the on the analytics, and Pope relyon on that
too much. When he says things like, well, you know,
Brandon Garrison's are most efficient, It's like, no, just use
your eyeballs, don't I don't please, do not tell me
(41:30):
how efficient Brandon Garrison.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Is, but for one against Gonzaga.
Speaker 7 (41:38):
When he says stuff like that that he's locking too
much of the numbers, like no one else is seeing that?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
No?
Speaker 6 (41:43):
What?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
No? All right, so now we all know it's awful?
Can it be better? Jaden Quaintance is allegedly, according to
Matt and Orlander, going to return against Saint John's. Well
that helped. Do you think this can turn around? We
will deal with that. Plus I want to talk a
little UK volleyball. They make it to the second round,
(42:04):
will Stein's making moves? Are you gonna pull for Oregon
in the playoff? We will deal with all that and
more in the second hour. The A F I've nine
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