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December 8, 2025 • 42 mins

Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon talk College Football Playoffs, Notre Dame Football, and The Godfather.

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Speaker 4 (01:07):
I remember two Tucky Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven,
text machine is seven to seven two seven four five
two five four. A lot of good comments on the
text machine. One person writes, Matt, you all can talk
effort all you want. This team is poorly constructed. That
is ultimately the problem. I don't disagree with you. It's
poorly constructed. I think there's gonna be a lot of
questions as to why that happened. I think Mark Pope

(01:30):
should be asked about it, probably in the offseason, though, Shanean,
you can't look at Mark Pope and go, why does
your team stink?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
While they still have the rest of the game, you
know what I mean? Right right right?

Speaker 6 (01:38):
And nine games into the season too, I mean yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
When it's over, though, he definitely should be he asked
questions about it, Which gets me to the second point
of somebody saying, Matt, why don't the media press harder
on Pope and talk and get him.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
To talk more about his deficiencies.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Well, I do think the media probably should ask a
little bit harder questions, but that's also easier said than done.
I mean, you gotta remember think about just what happened
last week with Mitch Barnhart when John Hale asked him
about in Ail.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
You remember that, Ryan, what happened to John Hale?

Speaker 7 (02:10):
He got yelled at it.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
He got yelled at so like people say they want
the media to do that, but then I mean these
people that they yell at him, And then when that happened,
you then have people who take up for Mitch and
get mad at you.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Like it's easy to say, go after these people.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Just remember what happened to me for four years for
questioning cal like you get black balled. Then you also
end up getting a group of fans who get mad
at you for asking anything. Heck, I'll even go back
to many years ago when Jerry Tipton was here. He
used to ask those kind of questions all the time,
and many people and you're listening to one of them.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Me.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
I used to criticize him for it, and in hindsight
I was wrong about that. You need Jerry Tiptons. They
can't all be Jerry Tipton then it's too negative. But
you need one or two of them. But the problem
is it's hard to be Jerry Tipton because when you're
Jerry Tipton, and you asked those questions, people Ryan get
mad at you.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, yeah, you need a guys always said he need
has a sharp pencil like Tipton, Alan Color. Those guys
are one of those people took questions.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yes, but that's a hard role to have because the
fans get mad. Yep.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Yeah, and sometimes and so like it's when things are bad,
people always go, why don't you ask hard questions? But
what you need to ask yourself is when things are
good and people ask hard questions, do you get angry
at them? Now that likes these reporters recoil a little bit,
but go ahead, what were we gonna say?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm sorry? I did like Jack Pilgrim asking Mark Pope
about the DeMarcus Cousins tweet after the game. You know
you haven't seen it yet, you know you gottam And.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
I thought his answer to that was good where he
said like DeMarcus has a right to say that.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
He's right he said I'm out at the coach too.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
I just thought that was a gonna answer by Mark
on that, Drew, I think you have been certainly with
Mitch Barnhardt and now with Mark Pope and even Mark Stoops.
In the last year or so, you've been a really
harsher critic. Does that make Do you find that difficult?
Because I mean I know that leads to difficult interactions
with people at UK et cetera.

Speaker 8 (04:15):
Oh yeah, and you know, I have a lot of
friends at UK Athletics. I'm sure they don't love me
here lately. It's it's not a fun role to play
and I try not to play it. But I mean,
just overall, sure, we have volleyball that's exciting coming up
this week, but overall UK Athletics has been in a
down spot, especially with their two big money makers lately,
and for me, it just got It's gotten so bad

(04:37):
I couldn't just sit here and put on a smile
and try to be the fun guy. I mean, this
has been an embarrassing run by basketball, not just with Pope,
going back to the last few years of cow how
that was all handled football with the big dip, We're
way behind an nil. Like, tell me something UK Athletics
is good at without saying the word volleyball.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Mitch says, we're not behind it.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Question eighteen times, I would say this garbage drew its garbage.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
I would say this to Mitch.

Speaker 8 (05:06):
If somebody asked me a question nineteen times, I wouldn't
get mad at them.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
I'd say, you know what, maybe I'm not good at.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
A correctly, I totally agree with you.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
When you get asked the same thing nineteen times, maybe
there's something.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
Uh, you get eighteen with Mitch you don't get nineteen.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Nineteenth is too much.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
I would say, our women's basketball team is good, and
our women's volleyball team is good.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
We're women's school.

Speaker 8 (05:24):
That's great, not downplaying any of that, but we need
football and basketball to not being the rut they're in,
and we need to figure out an aisle.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
Uh. Let's talk just a second about the playoff. Do
we want Oregon to win a lot? And let me
explain some timeline stuff. Organ's gonna beat James Madison uh
in the first round the playoffs. Then they're gonna play
Texas Tech. It's gonna be on New Year's If they
beat Texas Tech, they're gonna go to the semi final.
But the portal opens right after that game. Would you

(05:56):
rather will Stein win? Get to keep coaching Oregon, which
will also be a billboard for UK football, But he'll
be preparing during portal season or would you rather him
lose to Texas Tech and be able to focus on
the portal specifically, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I'm gonna come becoming a big Oregon Ducks fan. I
want them to win. I want them to score a
lot of points, and I want them Every time they
show him in the booth, they say, there's your new
Kentucky head football coach right there. They just put forty
two up on Texas Tech. I want him to thrive, So.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
You want him to win, all right, DRIs.

Speaker 8 (06:35):
I want them to lose seventy to sixty nine and
we talk about how good his offense was when he gets.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
His butt to Lexington. Okay, I'm selfish.

Speaker 8 (06:44):
I want him to do well, and I'll be rooting
for him, but I don't I don't have I don't
get an Oregon hoodie if they win.

Speaker 7 (06:48):
I don't cheer for Oregon.

Speaker 8 (06:50):
I'd be happy for him, but I'm selfish and I
need my cats having a good head start. So I
hope he looks great with the offense. He's on TV
a lot, and then he gets to come home right away.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
Shannon, Yeah, I mean we want what's best for Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
We don't care about Oregon, so I would rather than
lose and let him get to work right here with
this job at Kentucky or Team No Ducks.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Team No Duck. That's right, I'm quacking all time. I
want him to go. I want him to win the title.
I think it's good for us.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
There will probably be some small negativity about him not
being here during portal season, but I mean the phone works, right,
so I think that's fine. He'll have his full staff
in place. Chances of liar a lot of them do
the recruitment anyway. I think the best advertisement for coming
and playing will for will Stein is will Stein having

(07:40):
success and the more he wins. We can't at Kentucky
football wins the last time we've played a game Ryan
where there'll be as many people watching as there will
be the semi finals.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Of the playoff.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Maybe never never, right, So like we'll never get that
kind of advertisement, and players will sit there and say,
look at that guy, I want to go play in
that offense. Especially, I mean, they have a path where
they could legitimately get to the championship game. So I'm
gonna be an Oregon fan. I'm gonna We're gonna have
Oregon watch parties at the bar. I'm if I don't know,

(08:14):
anybody knows, may at the University of Oregon send us gear.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
I'm quacking, and Ryan you could quack with me.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
I don't know if Drew and Shannon will joined us,
but I'm I'm for Oregon. I think it's the best
thing that could happen to Kentucky football as them succeed.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I agree. We definitely give a quack, and we want
the quack to keep quacking all day and.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Say, Shannon, you had a good pund and now he
thinks he can do it.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Yeah, you gave you an encouraged Dan, which is not
what we want to do.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
All right.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Two quick things about the playoff Indiana. All right, all right, Drew,
I'm gonna just go ahead and admit they're good. I
didn't want to do it. For two years, I've not
wanted to do it, but that was a heck of
a win against Ohio State undefeated. I think you can
make a strong argument that what that guy has done
in Indiana.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Is maybe the greatest coaching job of all time.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Isn't it to in two years change it from maybe
the worst power five program in history to the number
one seed in the playoff.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
That's gotta be the greatest coaching job of all time.

Speaker 8 (09:18):
I can't think of when I could put it ahead
of it, like this year when you consider just be
number one Ohio State. You went to Oregon when they
were number two, number three, whatever they were, then all
the other big ten rivalries you have, you handle business there.
To run the table at Iu Deck I thought would
be insanity. I didn't think that ever be possible, and
he did it so quickly, So I agree with you.

(09:38):
I don't know what job you could say is better.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
It's the best in two years, and it also completely
changes the table on what is possible at any school.
I mean, you can't expect Ryan will Stein to go
do what Signetti did. I'm not expecting that Signetti had
been a head coach for fifteen years with Stein has
But now you can look at that and go, anything's possible, right,

(10:02):
anything is if they can do it in Indiana, then
why can't you do it anywhere?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
And to do it in Indiana where nobody ever thought that
would ever have any success in football ever, I mean
they have an overall losing record every coach has been
the loser. Even Lee Corso was a loser there, and
for him to come in and win. Well, they've lost
two games in the last two years is just amazing.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
There were three and nine in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
That's amazing.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Just two years.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
They've lost one game in two years. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
So you've got a like or two games.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
They've lost two games in two years if you count
the ball, So you gotta give him a lot of credit.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
All right, So Notre Dame, who.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
That ever won?

Speaker 5 (10:47):
That's the windiest whining group I've ever seen. I've always
disliked Notre Dame. But I'm done with Notre Dame. Okay,
not going and playing in the bowl. That's taking your
ball and going home. But the Notre Dame. If you
don't want to make the playoff, Notre Dame, join a conference. Okay,
join a conference. Your schedule is a joke. You played
two good teams this year and you lost to them both.

(11:08):
They should have been out. Miami beat them, had to
head drew, they should have been out. Alabama. I don't
you know, I do not think Alabama is great, but
you can't punish them for playing in a conference and
playing in the championship game. I'm fine with Notre Dame
being out and the fact that they skip the bowl.
That is the most chicken blank thing I've ever seen
of a team to do.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
I hate it.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
And next year, go look at their schedule. Next year,
they have the easiest schedule. You you're a Notre Dame.
And they don't play one good team next year, not one.
They're the worst And Drew, I'm glad they got left out.

Speaker 8 (11:46):
Did I hear Daring the selection thing yesterday? That next
year if Notre Dame is just inside the top twelve.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yes, how ridiculous is that?

Speaker 5 (11:55):
And they're gonna be in the top twelve because they
don't play anybody. Go look at they play Miami at home.
And besides that, they don't play anyone that's even decent.
They're like they I have never been anti Notre Dame,
but I am now anti Notre Dame. And their coach

(12:17):
Shannon he might be handsome, but who cares like he's
the worst. I cannot believe they refuse to play in.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
That the refusing to play the NCULE should say, Okay,
you don't want to play in the postseason next year.

Speaker 6 (12:28):
Your bann from the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Next year, I agree, I'd support it. Yep.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
True, they could have played BYU. Those were two teams
that both almost got in the playoff.

Speaker 8 (12:36):
That would have been a good game, could have been
a great game, and I don't I don't like that
they did it.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
I wish they'd play.

Speaker 8 (12:41):
But this actually makes me worried that this is just
gonna start a trend where any team, Oh I didn't
make the top twelve, well, all right, I'll try gain
next year.

Speaker 7 (12:48):
I'm not gonna go play into whatever.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Teams in the conferences. The conferences make too much money
from these bowl games, so the conferences are gonna make
it prohibitive that they can't do this. They'll find them
so much they can't do it. I State and Kansas
State didn't do it, but they're in unique situations. They
both both teams either don't have a coach or don't
have a roster because of what happened. I think they
should play too, but it's a little different. It would

(13:10):
be like if Kentucky had made a bowl game, we
wouldn't even really have a coach, so it would be
very difficult. But Ryan Notre Dames is the weakest I
think what and the reason they can get away with
it is because they're not in the conference. The conferences
wouldn't let their teams do this.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
So despite the Notre Dame snub, will you okay with
the other twelve team James Madison?

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Fine with it? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (13:29):
I mean, look, James Madison's gonna lose Shennon. But what
would you rather see Oregon play James Madison and beat
them by forty or Oregon play Duke and beat them
by forty.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
Oregon play Vanderbilt and beat them by four?

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Okay, I'm okay with having a James Madison like they're
gonna get beat but it's a cool story.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
If you're gonna let those teams be in D one, Shannon,
you gotta give them a chance to make it.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
But you know, yeah, you're right, they're just gonna get
destroyed the first round. But I mean, here's the bigger thing.
They're going to have to expand the football playoffs. You
know they are now because of teams like Vandy and
these teams that didn't get in well this year.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
The football playoffs being expanded would be good because Vandy's
good Texas is good, Notre Dame's good, But Drew there
have been years where if you expanded it, the teams
you would have let him would have been bad.

Speaker 8 (14:21):
Yeah, this year's unique. The snubs, even Notre Dame, have
an argument of why they shouldn't be in. You can't
let everybody in, But this one seems wild. You know,
there's the Alabama controversy. Everybody's arguing over this was of
all the ways this could play out. The committee must
have really hated this one because it was tough filling
that last spot for them.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
But if I remember correctly, like was it last year,
Like people didn't even think there were good enough teams
to get in. So I listen, I want them to
expand it, Ryan, because I want to make it one day.
So make it as big as you can for Kentucky
to make it.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
That's my view.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
So here's my question. How did Mississippi State edge out
Kentucky and the academic performance to get that bowl game?

Speaker 4 (15:01):
It's a good question. Our academic performance must not be
very good. I'd had to pretty high.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
I'd heard we were pretty high in that ranking, and
then Appalachian State and Mississippi State had better academic performance than.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Hound and Mississippi State.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
Yeah, well I never Mark Stoops was never big on
the school part of it.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
He wasn't making them do their homework on the sideline.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
I mean, I know, I'm not I'm not saying he
didn't care about school. I just don't think that was
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Speaker 9 (16:12):
Amen, thuds and prayers you and your family.

Speaker 10 (16:15):
Thank you, uh me and my wife went down to
the game, and that.

Speaker 11 (16:19):
Game was very laughable.

Speaker 9 (16:21):
It was pretty pathetic.

Speaker 11 (16:23):
I don't know what they're doing on offense, but it
is hard to.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Watch well that off it's brutal.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
I mean again, what is the change you're gonna make
that's gonna be better? Like I think low I mean
people look, Low played what fourteen minutes?

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Sixteen minutes?

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah, fourteen minutes, and by the time he got in
it was what eleven?

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Nothing?

Speaker 5 (16:47):
So I mean there were people sending me things like, oh,
low didn't end up his I mean, Low is not
I'm not who knows if Lowe will be a solution,
But I don't think yet, Drew, he's the problem?

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Would you No?

Speaker 8 (17:01):
I don't think you could pinpoint any one person's the
problem when the entire team looks like the problem.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
I think that's the best way to say it. Anything else, do? I, sir,
appreciate the call, Drew give.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
Me something positive? Was it awesome? Before the game down.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
There there was a shooting at my hotel as I
was checking in.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
That should have been that's not awesome.

Speaker 8 (17:24):
I I pulled up to the valet, give the valet
my keys, I go inside, drop my suitcase. I'm not
upstairs ten minutes and when I come back out, I
just walk into the crimeson the valet had been shot
like minutes. I missed the valet shooting maybe even by seconds.
So that had that going for me. That was that
was an interesting way to start, uh Friday. Straight from

(17:47):
that into the game where there was Yeah, so it
was it was a weird trip. I did have fun,
lots of friends there. Uh really the postgame scene on
Broadway was kind of weird, Like there were some fans
that were angry. There were some that were almost just
laughing it off, like this is so embarrassing, we can't
even process it. I mean you have bands like singing

(18:08):
sad songs to Kentucky fans and people giving out free
beer because they feel bad for Kentucky fans. It was
it was supposed to be a celebration, or maybe if
you didn't believe in the team would win, to be
a celebration.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
It just wasn't supposed to be that.

Speaker 8 (18:20):
It was like just a weird scene of people trying
to process what had happened just before them.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Shannon would have liked the free beer. I feel like
you enjoyed that I would have jumped in on the up.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Next, let's go to Randall.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Randall, how are you, Randall? I'm doing good?

Speaker 9 (18:36):
Yes, I would boo because these guys are getting paid,
you know, to currently pay play and you know, like
with them getting paid, I mean, you know, you gotta
sorry if I don't have a little sympathy for as
much money as they're making, more than I'm gonna make
it eight.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Ten years probably.

Speaker 9 (18:54):
But you know, I think that that Mark Pope and
the coaching staff looks more tense than two rams. And
he had a tap dance recital at the moment, and
I mean with the don't laugh, it ain't funny, hang.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
On, hang on more heat than two excuse me, more
tense than two rams in heat and a what dance recital?

Speaker 9 (19:19):
Tape dance recital?

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Tap dance? I've heard that? Is that a phraser? Did
you just come up with that?

Speaker 9 (19:26):
I just it's is country slang. I don't know, but
I mean he needs to get these guys in the
gym and work on those grandma arms. And I hope
when he goes down there to Atlanta, Rick Bettino, the
Godfather grabs old you know, Pope and shakeslem and says,
I act like a man after that loss, you know,

(19:46):
I mean, that's that's true.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
You want that Godfather moment where he smacks him and goes, yes,
that's right.

Speaker 9 (19:53):
Yeah, yeah, and merry Christmas feelings.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Merry Christmas. I like that. It's a good scene.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
What is it The singer from Vegas comes into town
and he's crying about his career. Remember that scene and
he smacks.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Him and go, that's like a man. Has anybody seen
The Godfather? Am I the only ones that's seen it? Definitely?

Speaker 8 (20:11):
Yeah, I've seen it, and that's the one that we've
Ryan's not seen her? Am I dreaming that I have
not seen it?

Speaker 4 (20:16):
That is? That is insane to me that you haven't
seen The Godfather? How First of all, you're old?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Did you're very old?

Speaker 4 (20:25):
How have you not seen it?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Not seen it?

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 6 (20:33):
No, I've never seen it.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Neither of you have seen The Godfather?

Speaker 6 (20:37):
Ryan, Let you and not go watch it together?

Speaker 4 (20:39):
In all seriousness?

Speaker 5 (20:40):
How you it's it's widely considered the greatest movie of
all time, and it's also, unlike a lot of old movies,
you can still watch it. You know, they'll say like
Citizen Kane's the greatest movie and then you start to
watch it and you just fall asleep. This is still good.
Will you two watch it please? As a favor to me.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
The only Godfather I've been to is a different Godfather.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
I understand you don't know that. I know you know
about it. Yeah, I know that one share Ryan? Will
you want you would like it? Ryan? Like it's your
kind of movie. It's like a guy's movie.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, younger girls trying to educate me and watch all
these old movies.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
So maybe this is not old movie. This is I'm
telling this is not Singing in the Rain. Okay, you
will like it. I promise this is not.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
This is your kind of thing.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
Is it like four hours long? Or is it?

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Well, it's like three and more.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Okay, god Father one's three and Godfather two is three,
but they're both good.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
I promise you.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
I watched the highlights. There's no highlights in the YouTube
version of it.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Then drew back me up on this, like this is
legitimately really good.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
I mean I love mafia type stuff anyway.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
But do you like mafia movies? Do you like mafia movies? Ryan?

Speaker 2 (21:50):
I don't know if I've seen hardly any Mafia movie.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Do you mean you haven't seen them? Have you seen Goodfellas?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I think I saw that. That's when Danny d Vite,
Not Danny Joe Pesci.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Danny DeVito No Joe, yes, Joe Pesci?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Have you seen that?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I've seen that one? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (22:06):
What about Casino?

Speaker 7 (22:08):
No great one? Scarface?

Speaker 2 (22:11):
No, not Scarface?

Speaker 4 (22:13):
What do you watch? Well? Last night? Yoga?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Maybe watch White Christmas with Bean Cross.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
That's a great I wish that would have been over
for that.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
You should the three of you need to get together
and watch White Christmas instead.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Of The Godfather was beautiful you Louke? Go ahead, Luke?
How do I get these two? Is my co host? Luke?
Go ahead? Guys?

Speaker 12 (22:40):
I don't know what I'm more disappointed than the basketball
team of the fact that Rotting and Chan haven't seen
The damn Father.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Are you crazy?

Speaker 12 (22:46):
I mean, my goodness, that's disgraceful. That's like a that's
like that should be like almost the capital punishment.

Speaker 13 (22:52):
Anyway.

Speaker 12 (22:53):
Uh, back to what I really wanted to say, Uh
the booing. I'll say this, the money has not changed
my team on the I've always believed this. You can
boot coaches, and you can boo the team collectively. We
don't boo individual players though, like when we booed BJ
Boston or our small portion of our fans did. That
pissed me off. But I fully, and not only except

(23:15):
I am race booing entire teams and coaches.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
I actually agree with that. I agree with that. I
appreciate the call. I agree I would. I don't think
you single out a guy. I'm gonna boot these two
for not having seen The Godfather now, unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Be right back, Hey, TJ.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
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Speaker 3 (23:39):
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Speaker 6 (23:43):
Here's Matt Jones.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
So this is the famous scene, Shannon Roy, you've never
seen this? No, nope, okay, So this is the wedding scene.
He's see right here and he's like this side, how
would you describe him? Shen't kind of a chubby guy
and he's like he's dancing.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
Right yes, old man, oh man.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
This wedding. The wedding scene.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
I'm not just saying this part, but it's like thirty
minutes they're having the wedding and then inside the Godfather's
meeting with all these various people, Johnny Ola, and then
Michael returns home from the war like it's the greatest
scene in movies. And the fact that you haven't seen it.
And Ryan, here's the thing. I know you would like it.
It's not like one of these things. It's like nerdy

(24:32):
that I'm telling you to watch and you wouldn't like.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
You will love it.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
How about if over Christmas break, I make that my homework.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
I'll watch it, but you actually, he says, Christmas break
Drew like he does something besides the show.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
I mean, Christmas Break for you is just the same as.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Now, you'll actually be working during Christmas break.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
No, we had a couple of days off for Christmas
New Year's so I can take some of that time off.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
And what what do you dru he's got He's done
in twenty five minutes.

Speaker 7 (25:09):
That's the afternoon nap. You can't nap and watch.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
When is he going out to eat by himself? By
the way, like, when is this happening?

Speaker 4 (25:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Things have kept coming up. We're gonna do it. I'm
not getting so I just had the thing is I
have to be able to monitor this Shandon, and I'm
really not in a position where I can monitor it
right away with it. I'm not this is not he's
doing it, and I may make him sit there and
watch The Godfather while.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
He's doing Yeah, it's a long lunch, three hours, all right, So.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
Jay, So they said Jayden Quaint's is gonna come back,
drew A. Do you think that happens?

Speaker 4 (25:42):
They say?

Speaker 5 (25:43):
Matt Norlanders said he thought by the Saint John's game.
Do you think that happens? And if so, does it matter?

Speaker 8 (25:49):
I still think it happens. I've not one time had
any shade sharp thoughts about him. I expect him to
play when he's able. I think he needs to show
the NBA that he's recovered from his injury. So I'm
part of it. I think he needs to do it
for the future. And you know, I still thinks he's
a good kid, wants to help the team. I don't
know how big of a help he can be to
this point if the guys are still just not making

(26:10):
the extra pass and moping up and down the court,
but maybe he can bring energy and the rest will
look around and see him doing it. Because when he's
playing at a high level, and giving it all. I mean,
he is a game changer, especially defensively where he's one
of those elite shot blockers.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Those are the two things I think I Drew just
hit it that I think he can bring Ryan. I
think he can protect the rim and block shots so
that we don't give up as many layups and that
we can get better rebounding.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
And then energy.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
I don't see that guy not like I don't see
that guy lolligag like he's not I'm not gonna be
worried about his effort.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
So I think those two things are important.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Now they don't sort of, they don't deal with some
of our major issues about shooting and ball handling.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
But I do think he would bring those two things immediately.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, definitely would help, bringing that effort, energy, toughness. So
if you get him back and you get about day back,
and all of a sudden, you've got a couple of
tough guys down there won't be buoying us around like
Gonzaga did the whole game.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
But I still don't know if we have guys who
can make shots.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Nope, And I don't know how you think that.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
I don't know how you fix that either, I do
not know how Mark Pope, a coach who literally built
his entire brand, his entire coaching philosophy around shooting, how
did he go recruit a team that can't shoot. I
just I don't know how that happened, especially when the

(27:31):
first team he brought in here everyone could shoot, like
that was the point is everyone can shoot, And then
the next year he was like, okay, how about no
one shoots.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
They're great in practice at least that's what we hear.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
But that doesn't mean you think about that thing.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
He said it was one of the greatest shooting teams
he's ever seen through a practice. How do we how
do we process that having watched them?

Speaker 7 (27:57):
I really don't know. I mean part of it I worry.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
You know, everything we kind of joke, but everything is
perfect and extraordinary and special. I hope he wasn't doing
that about the three point shooting. But you know, anytime
you try to get a little bit of criticize him,
it's like, well, this is gonna be special, this is
you know, And maybe the three point shooting was that
way too.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
It was ugly, it wasn't beautiful, it was.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Do you think he act? Do you think fit those
guys do shoot well in practice and they just can't
shoot in the game, or like he's not delusional, Like
I I don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Here's the other thing.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
We don't really see these guys except the once or
twice a year they open up. So part of it
is we have to rely to some extent on what
the coaches say. And Drew, I think in the future,
like next year, whatever he says, I just am gonna
probably be skeptical.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Aren't you.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
Yeah, that Ferrari comment got a lot of people excited,
and then that just keeps coming up about. I mean,
we're getting all the memes of the actual cars he
many has, you know, nineteen eight four Pentos, stuff like that,
But I mean he generated that excitement in these expectations.
There was national championship talk, Ferrari talk, and now it's like,
can you just win a game against a team that

(29:11):
has a pulse and then we'll figure out what kind
of car you've got and everything else.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah, all right, who's next? Mark Anthony, Mark Anthony, go.

Speaker 10 (29:18):
Ahead, morning, Matthew Roan, Drew Shannon, matt your dad is
in my mind.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (29:26):
If you leave the gun, bring the canoli, and thank you.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
There you go another Godfather Live. Oh?

Speaker 10 (29:33):
I love it anyway. I think Coach Pope is drowning
in his own analytics. I believe he's just putting way
too much stock in it. He won't do a post
game show that he doesn't quote you some analytics statistic
or another that we don't understand. He's got to explain it.
I think he's depending too much on it. I'm kind
of like Drew coach. Analytics are great running in the background,

(29:57):
but I don't want to see you refer to analytics
at all in games. Get halftime, give them a minute
after the game, go crazy with your analytics, but during
the game, Grew, use your as coach, coach your team.
And I think it'll make a big red Jaden quaintance
if it comes back, and I assume he will at

(30:18):
some point, but he's not in game shape. If he
gives you ten minutes, it's going to be good. And
he's not played with these dudes a minute, and so
I don't agree to do so that's fair.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
We'll see.

Speaker 13 (30:31):
Can't be worse, coach, can't be worse.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
Appreciate the call, the anger on uh the text machine
about you all not seeing Godfather is even more than
I have.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
It sounds like a problem.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
There are also like.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
A million cultural references from it. Do you do you
not ever get those?

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Like get you know, take the leave the gun, take
the Kenoi.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Like he just said, I never heard that before. I
heard a top second ago with the other guy, but
not before that.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Okay, make an offer you can't refuse?

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Heard Yeah, what about that one? He made an offer
he can't refuse.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
I mean that from the Godfather.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Nobody ever said that before the Godfather.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Actually the godfathers well, I mean every word has been
said before at some point. I mean people use the
number sixty seven at something point, but then it becomes
a thing.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
I just here's the thing. Here's what you have understand. Movies.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
I don't like old movies past like pre like nineteen
sixty eight. I think old movies like black and white
outside of a couple like The Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
You said, white Christmas whatever, wonderful life.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
If you try to watch old movies, in my opinion,
most of them don't hold up. It's like trying to
watch My Three Sons or something. Father knows best. It's
just too long ago.

Speaker 8 (31:52):
Now, you should have heard these two during the break.
I don't think you could hear them. They were just
reciting White Christmas, their favorite scenes. They're laughing, Yeah, are
you this this bromance?

Speaker 5 (32:03):
Is that what you could do when you go to
Florida is you just sit around and watch White Christmas.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
And like, well, if it's one.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
Sister. They were singing that together.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
You know, maybe they should be replaced by Billy Well.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
So we could break everything in the studio.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Speaking of breaking lamps, do you shandon?

Speaker 5 (32:32):
A lot of people are saying we did start playing
bad when Annabell.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Okay, I'm telling you, you know when you made you
made Bell.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Why is it not Annabelle Radio? Why is it less
and me than it is Annabelle showing up?

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Well, I think we could have just let her go,
but then you had to like pile on and say
this stupid doll. And when that happened, we had a
girl that got hurt and the team started sucking. And
it's it's your fault. Really, I mean, we blame you anyways.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
I think it's the fact that you all haven't seen
The Godfather. If you had, I think it would be fine.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
I'll tell you what, I'll go watch The Godfather and
we'll see if they can beat Indiana Saturday.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Okay, how about this? Okay, it's Godfather one and two.
I actually think two is better than one, but two,
forget about two.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Pick one. You need to watch. It won't make as
much sense. Ryan.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Can you watch Godfather one before Saturday so we can
beat Indiana?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I will absolutely watch it before Saturday.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
All right, And if you all both watch it and
then we lose to Indiana, I will concede that it's
Annabel that causes Okay, all right, See, you both have
to watch The Godfather in its cantirty before Saturday.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Okay, got it?

Speaker 5 (33:45):
God Father one, Godfather one, two, you get to you'll
want to watch two after you watch one.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
You're gonna you're both gonna like it. I'm telling it.
I shut up. Who's next?

Speaker 6 (33:55):
Martin?

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Martin? Go ahead? Martin?

Speaker 11 (33:59):
Hey man, kim me.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
You're having right now? All right?

Speaker 11 (34:03):
Sending you prayers to your family. And then I kind
of wanted to go back your comments on Notre Dame.
I'm Roman Catholic. I've always hated Notre Dame, primarily because
I have a lot of Catholic friends and they all
root for Notre Dame just because they're supposedly Catholic. So
couldn't agree with you more there?

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yes, well I don't.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
I've never understood that either, Like, because you're Catholic, you
have to be for Notre Day. There are a ton
of Christian schools. I don't have to root for them, right,
I mean, like that's ridiculous.

Speaker 11 (34:32):
Go ahead, I can never stand it. And the two
things about the basketball team, I'll reiterate what most of
the guys have already said regarding booing. I'm all for
booing a team and a coach, especially now that they're
getting paid the money that they do. You know, you
have guys working nine to five out in the eastern
coal mines who don't make near as much as that money.

(34:53):
And we're not going to feel sorry for these guys
just because they start feeling sorry for themselves on the sidelines.
They can't get along. You're making money, you get to
play for a D one school. Just try your butt
off and die for loose balls. I mean, if I see,
oh wait, look at another loose ball as it goes past,
I'm gonna throw something at my TV and then the
other thing, and I'll hang up Mark Cope. I feel

(35:14):
like his overthinking how to motivate these guys, Like when
you hear him say, turn a switch on, check their
emotions and all these different things. I'm like, dude, they're
eighteen year old young men. You know, I played rugby
when I was eighteen. Sometimes you just need to run
sprints and have a coach yell at you.

Speaker 13 (35:31):
That's the perfect age.

Speaker 11 (35:32):
For a young man to be molded into a warrior.
And he's not doing that with these players. I see
him on the sideline, clap in his hands, going, come on, guys,
Come on, guys, yell at these guys. I mean, these
guys are getting paid there.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Sometimes just sometimes people just don't connect. I remember I
appreciate Paul years ago, Drew. You may remember Patrick Patterson
visited Duke. Can you remember his quote after his visit.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Was not exact. I just wasn't feeling those.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Guys right, And the point of it was was like
he just kind of thought they were dorks. Sometimes people
just don't connect. And part of me wonders, Ryan, did
Mark Pope pick a group of guys he just doesn't
connect with.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I think you can make that argument. You know, most
staffs do have you know a bad cop good cop?
You know, Cal used to yell at him and then
Kenny Paine used to pat him on the back and
pick him back up. I don't know if if this
staff has that guy that can get in their face
and try to motivate them that way.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Last year, those dudes were older, they were kind of
dorky themselves, and maybe it worked. I don't know this group.
It just doesn't seem like when Pope. They just don't
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(37:11):
watching this movie. Will you actually say it though? If
you like it Ryan and don't.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Act like you, Yeah, yeah, I will definitely, we'll.

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This is why I love you, Shannon. You and I
we didn't even talk about this. You know, I was
reading that ad. You thought it was gonna keep the
music playing? Is what is the moment you started? I thought,

(38:01):
I hope he keeps his playing. And I didn't even
have to tell you just knew that's right.

Speaker 6 (38:06):
Well, that's what happens when you've been working together.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
For you, just the.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Fact that you knew that, that's like, only you're the
only person that would have known to keep doing that.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I just keep around, all right, all right?

Speaker 5 (38:20):
So people are noting these pop culture references. Do you
shoot me, Ryan?

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Have you ever heard?

Speaker 5 (38:27):
Uh, he sleeps with the fishes, right, Lucas with the fishes. Godfather? Okay,
just when I thought I was out, they pulled me
back in.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
You know that one.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I've heard that also, Godfather, Godfather?

Speaker 5 (38:41):
You ever heard like a group of siblings, the one
that's the stupidest, they'll call him Fredo No No, I
think Trump calls one of the Cuomo Duke kids Fredo.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
No.

Speaker 13 (38:54):
I do.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I think he does.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Get your other references, and I understand your references too,
without see in the movie sleeps with the Fishes.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
Yeah, he's dead, he's floating in the water.

Speaker 8 (39:03):
Think of any others, Drew, Keep your friends close and
your enemies closer.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Godfather too.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
That Yeah, like everything that we know came from the Godfather,
pretty much everything.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
Nothing didn't come from.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
The Brother's Keeper. That came from the Godfather.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
That was more the But that's the Godfather. Who's next?

Speaker 6 (39:30):
Adam?

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Adam?

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Go ahead at.

Speaker 10 (39:32):
Him, Matt.

Speaker 13 (39:35):
A man that can never spend time with his family.
He can never be called a truth.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
That's exactly right, can never be a true man that's
exactly right.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Also, the Godfather.

Speaker 13 (39:45):
Yeah, going to uh, you know, just Mark, Pope of
reference and Godfather. He might need to be hitting the
mattresses already. We got to figure something out.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yeah, well let me I mean, do you do you
all have confidence?

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Well, first of all, I'll ask you on the phone,
do you have confidence Pope can turn it around?

Speaker 13 (40:10):
Yes, because we've seen them do it. But good grace,
I mean that Gonzaga game, that's the worst. I mean,
you gotta go back to Billy Clyde to see that.
Just really.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Addition, we were bad during the COVID year, but I
don't know if we quit. Maybe we did, I can't remember.
I appreciate the call, Drew. Do you think he can
turn it around?

Speaker 8 (40:32):
No, not not this year. At least they just they
seem to really not like each other. And even if
he found the basketball answers like he did in some
of those big wins last year where he made in
game adjustments, even if he started putting the piece together
from a basketball standpoint, I don't know how you get
this group on the same page, especially if this just
keeps spiling.

Speaker 7 (40:51):
I mean, if they lose.

Speaker 8 (40:51):
To Indiana on Saturday, god it, we'll get nasty around here.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Ryan, you I mean, you've worked with people you didn't
like over the years. You just have to get over it,
don't you.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Usually you find, you know the common goal. You rally
around the common goal, and that's to play good basketball
and win games. This team just seems to be like broken,
and I don't know if it can be. They't have
some games they play really well and they may have
a big win, but they just seem to be broken.
And when you have a gutless performance like we had
on Friday, that's hard to recover from.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Yeah, I mean, I've worked with people I didn't like, Shannon,
but you know when it I mean, they said Mike
and Mike hated.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Each other, right, but they made it work.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
But every morning they came on and they made it work.
They got I mean, gotta do better than this. I
don't care. I don't care what happened between them. I
really don't. Whatever it is, it can't be like this.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
So what do you do? If you're Mark Pope? What
do you do right now?

Speaker 5 (41:55):
I think I think the best advice I've heard is
go back to the basics, Like just take a step
back and whatever is your most basic basketball knowledge, go
back to that. And then I also agree with the
person that said, forget your notions of who should play,
go out there and play the five guys given the
most effort, whoever that is.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
And he seemed to do that in the second half,
and he left those five guys out there.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
And I think I would learn from it. Even though
the second half didn't go great, it went better than
the first half. Right, Yeah, just play the guys who
were giving you effort and then go from there. Stop
trying to play everybody. They don't like it, then that's
the way it goes. Thank you, folks very much for
tuning in. We will be back tomorrow. Tough day, but

(42:40):
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