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It's time for three Things Thursday.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It one three things all right.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Three things there gets started with a topic that we
rarely discuss, rarely discuss. Okay, if Steve Hartman were here
and the fusion still existed, no doubt in my mind,
Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame talk would have been
on the agenda. The Hall of Fame game is going
on right now. Just kicked off.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
H o F.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You're not missing much unless you really wanted to see
that QB battle between Davis Mills and Tyson Beagent Beagent's
old man with them big arms and an arm wrestling championship,
kind of a cool little chess big two and a
chess piece and Mills with a great history at Stanford
and a nice arm. But let's move to Hall of
Fame week. In a Steve Hartman esque dissertation, I never
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saw Baigent in college, but I saw Mills. The inductees
will go in on Saturday. Davis Mills will never be
inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's safe
to say, but you know, I think that's insulting. He's
still a viable athlete, still a viable athlete. Backup quarterback
good in a pinch, has started a number of games.
There's a chance to celebrate some dudes to put in
big work while we were on the air as a
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show together and long before this show was started. But
a special class. Now, I'm going to start with one
of the things that drives me absolutely crazy, and we
bring it up every time one of our dear friends
joins the show. I would hate to see this. Well,
I shouldn't say it that way, but it's the Steve
Garvey treatment. Steve Garvey's a Hall of Famer. It is
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asinine that a ten time All Star, a League MVP,
a two time NLCS MVP, a World Series Champion, a
four time Gold Glover is not in the Hall of Fame,
a decade of All Star appearances, and the greatest All
Star game player ever is not in the Hall of Fame.
It took the freaking pad race to the World Series.
For god's sakes, He's going to be seventy six this year.
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Put Steve Garvey in before he's too freaking old.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It is because finally this don't ask Ron say about it, No,
what about me? Forget Garvey, because this year one of
the great monsters of the Midway is going in. Steve McMichael,
mongo one of the great all time interior pass rushers
from the defensive tackle position that starred with Dan Hampton
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Richard Dent already in shrine. McMichael was an All Pro
five times, part of the nineteen eighties NFL All Decade
Team ninety five sacks in the eighties as a defensive tackle.
And they waited until the guy was diagnosed with als,
confined to a wheelchair. Geez to put him in, like
poor Hank Stram. Yes, he looked like a death warmed
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over up there. It's like, really, you can't get one
of the great characters in the history of a man
who went into a very successful pro wrestling career. His
personality was so dynamic. You couldn't put him in when
he was in his post playing prime. You have to
wait to say, are bad, he's got als, he's fighting
the fight. Let's get McMichael in. Put him in when
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it's time to put him in. Another dude in our wheelhouse, Pee,
I'm sure one of your family's favorites. Randy Gratishar Orange Crush,
Heart and Soul of the seventy seven Broncos. First playoff
time for Super Bowl team, my dad says, you know
seventy seven was a great year because you were born,
but also it was Randy Gratishaw.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Time, right.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I did not realize that Gratishar is the first guy
from the Orange Crush to be inducted. Now, we think
of the Orange Crush uniforms and the guys like Steve Atwater,
but the Orange Crush defense.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I think the snow Goose, Carl Mecklenberg.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
But Gratishar was the guy, the man who PI And
this is another part of the theme. Joe Collier, the
man who pretty much pioneered the three four defense the
Orange Crush, which dominated the league from seventy five to
nineteen eighty three, just passed away two months ago. Never
got a chance to see any of his stars from
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the Orange cr Rush defense get inducted into the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
And so now they're like, oh, I guess we'll put
gratis Shar in. Might as well.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
He's a five time All Pro Defensive Player of the Year.
Let's put him in now in twenty twenty four, when
the guy retired in nineteen eighty five, you finally decide
to put him in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I mean, I hate to act like I am an
expert on this, Like when we're watching team handball and
we're like that sucks, you know, like, but isn't there
Can't they do a better job at this? You'd like
to think so, Like, I mean, can't they There's a
lot of people that work at the NFL, you.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Would fit you think they could figure this out. And
I understand it's the pro football writers that do it,
and they're very they're just a very prickly bunch.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Well, they're controlled by the NFL two now, you know,
Ram Farmer. Yeah, yeah, I mean exactly, the NFL can
control this.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So thanks for putting Gratishar in after call you're passed
away three months ago. And thanks for putting McMichael in
when he's confined to a wheelchair and fighting als.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
It's a terrible thing. Matt's good, right, But the Hall
of Fame is happening now out in cow Julius Peppers
is going in first ballot dominant football player. One of
the interesting thing about Peppers, of course, that whole argument
that took place the basketball players playing football or football
players playing basketball. Well, I think Peppers is kind of
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the perfect example, right, Or you could even just extend
it to the next three Hall of Famers, Peppers, Tony Gonzalez,
Antonio Gates, guys that were completely mediocre rotation players in
basketball and went on to have Hall of Fame football careers.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, they could take a hit exactly. Those basketball dudes,
they might have proprioception, they might be able to jump
like pogo sticks, but you take one hit from Leonard
Marshall and you ain't playing no more.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
No.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And football players, you can't play basketball, well you're not
playing can, but you're likely to look a lot more
plotting yes out on that court than you would out
on the football field. Though, Tony Gonzalez really stood out
to me because I played with Himcoal and I just
I couldn't believe what a ballerina he was on the on
the football field.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And you know, fifteen minutes a night for cal Basta
very year.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
You know, I mean he played well, you know, he's
a rebounder, and he you know he'd made.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But you know, I'm saying NBA NFL level very different, Uh,
very Charlie Ward got robbed. If it was a different time,
Charlie Warard would have been the number one pick in
the NFL draft.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Maybe Devin Hester, be tall, Tyler Murray great.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Devin Hester.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Great to see finally a specialist, the best return man
of his era and perhaps the best return man of
all time. Get in Andre Johnson, Patrick Willis, Dwight Freeney.
Nice story about Patrick Willis. Saw this today. Jim Harbaugh
scheduled the off day for the Bolts on Saturday, so
he and a bunch of former forty nine Ers coaches
and players can hop a plane to get to Canton
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to support Patrick Willis. Charted a jet called it the
Willis Express. He's got Navarro Bowman on the staff coaching
up linebackers, Delaney Walker, Deshaun Golston, Jonathan Goodwin, Mike you Potty.
I've seen big I've seen very big legs on football
players in my life. But the other day when I
saw Mike you potty walk around, those might be the
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biggest calvs I think I've ever seen on a human being.
And will to kuafu all going out on the Willis
Express on a scheduled off day for the Chargers Saturday
before they play the Rams at eleven am. Also with
the Bolts. I don't know if you heard Justin Herbert
he hurt his foot. Matt two weeks in a boot
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and then he will gradually ramp up to football activities
and they say be ready for the regular season on
September eighth. I believe it's their first game. So good
luck to Herbert. Seems like he's someone the Chargers will
need if they plan to have the type of season
they are hoping to have.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah, I mean there's that rag game against the Raiders early.
You know, I hope ready for it week one.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I have been to quite a few practices, was over
there yesterday doing a couple interviews. But I will say
we do have a rooting interest. We do have a
Chargers player of record for the twenty twenty four campaign.
Oh Brendan Rise, so cool to come out to El
Segundo at our summer tour stop. Was great with us,
was gracious with his time, hung out with the boss.
My man, that's a class guy right there. That is
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a class individual, hung out with a bunch of listeners,
took pictures. Great interview as a seventh round pick, a
wide receiver, no less on a team in this particular
offense of what they want to run with Josh Palmer
and Lad mcconkeye, DJ Hark, Quinton Johnston, Darius Davis. Always,
I must say, I'm almost all locks to make the team.
We knew his path was going to be tough, but
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he's pushing guys. Made at least one big play every
single training camp practice, and it rarely makes sense. But
in this case, it might that he might be a
better NFL player than a college player because he blocks
his ass off in the run game. He loves contact.
He has been great with those fifty to fifty balls,
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and when you do that in the end, you aren't
playing time. You do it in college, well, he didn't
really do it a whole lot in college. And then
you show up for the combine, he'd run a four
to five forty and you don't jump forty one inches,
and everyone's like, what the hell is your problem? And
you put them on a football field, you're like, oh, yeah,
he's beating the hell out of guys and he's playing
a real physical brand of football. So maybe, outside chance,
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we certainly hope it to be the case he can
end up being part of that fifty three when the
roster is set.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I mean he got picked in the draft.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, Usually those guys should make it.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
They shouldn't be you know.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Practice squad guy not cut right and finally on the
on the bolts before we shift real quick p or
I should say technically our third thing Hall of Fame
Brennan Rice. What is it like to cover? Jim Harbaugh
in a presser? Here is a question about the absence
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of a lowe Gilman. Why was it a lowe Gilman
on the field today? Was it injury? Was it a
vet day off? And Harbaugh gives his answer and pauses
and looks around the room as though everybody's supposed to
know what he's talking about, before he expands and explains
what he means.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
We didn't see a LOGI out there. Is he working
through something?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
The team got bigger and stronger.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Alowie had and his wife had a baby. Congratulations, And
the measurables are good. I mean really close to nine pounds,
close to nine pounds. I got some length close to
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twenty one inches. Haven't gotten a wingspan yet, but hopefully
we'll get that today. But yeah, just thank you girl.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
The team got bigger.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
That's stronger, working through something.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
The team got bigger and stronger. Geez context, The team
got bigger and stronger.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Jim Harba pressers are probably gonna be well for now
without games being played, They're gonna be pretty fun. So uh,
maybe go ahead and tune into those. And those are
your three things.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
And we'll be back with more great sports talk, great
sports talk. Our team gets more atrophied and weaker every day.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I have terrible measurables. The team got bigger and stronger.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Andy McCullough will join us next talking about Clayton Kershaw
and the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
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No Dodger game tonight. It was a short one in
San Diego, swept at the hands of the Padres. They
start up in Oakland tomorrow for a three gamer over
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Speaker 4 (16:11):
All right, it is time to talk about Clayton Kershaw
and some perspective on that sweep that you just mentioned.
I senior MLB writer at The Athletic, former Dodgers beat
rider for the La Times, of course, author of the
book The Last of His Kind, Clayton Kershaw and The
Burden of Greatness, a biography of Clayton Kershaw. Bye, Andy
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McColl a seam head if there ever was one with
a hipstere vibe, Matt, Like you said, the new Taking
Back Sunday is out.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Gotta get my way out of this, gotta god.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
He's joining us on her Southern California to tell you
to the other celebrity hotline.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
What's cracking? Andy? How are you?
Speaker 7 (16:52):
I'm good? Is any Taking Back Sundays?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
No, we didn't need to get your get a little
freelance review in there. Run a review freelance sells to Pitchfork.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
And what is the point.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
We're sorry, Andy, I don't know why you make stuff up,
but we're happy to have you on. You know, it's
tough to see Clayton Kershaw struggle because you know how
hard it was for him to come back from this injury.
Never have surgery and all that. But some perspective for
Dodger fans, what are we watching here with Kershaw this season, Well, I.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Think it's you know, it's a unique situation for him,
right because, like he is dealing with a far more
significant sort of recovery than he had before. You know,
as you said, he'd never had a surgery in his life,
and so he's been someone who has dealt injuries and
has basically whenever he's on the field has been really good.
I think it's a matter of you know, kind of
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just figuring out, you know, kind of how his delivery
is working, you know, getting sort of knocking off the
rust all that sort of stuff at a time when
the Dodgers are a little more pressed for you know,
hell from him than maybe anyone expected heading into this year.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
How do you think it ends, Andy, I know we
can't project the future, but you know, the regular.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Season we can not at all, Andy can I mean,
you know we can.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
The regular season's one thing, and I think the Doctor's
probably got to be a little bit worried with how
hot every one of these wild card teams is right
now in the National League. But do you envision Clayton
Kershaw starting a postseason game if everyone is healthy in
this rotation?
Speaker 7 (18:28):
Well, I mean, who is who's everyone like, is that
is that Bueller? Is that you know, is Bob Miller pitching?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Well?
Speaker 7 (18:35):
I mean, you know, there's a lot of sort of
factors that go into that. Ye know, is Yamamoto make
it all the way back? Is does Glad now stay
completely healthy? I mean, like there's a ton of things
that could go sideways in that scenario. So I think
just a lot is going to depend on what he
looks like, you know, and I think it's gonna, you know,
for the first it seems like it's going to vary
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from start to start for a little while. You know,
he looks pretty solid against San Francisco, though they did
have some hard contact. You know, there was that one
sort of bigger inning where they were able to get
to him a little bit. And then you know, last night,
just the command was not there, The slider was not there,
you know, clearly sort of working through things, and when
you know, the Padres has seen him well in the
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past and they kind of know what he's going to
be doing against them is arsenals. Arsenal is what it is,
and like he attacks hitters in generally the same way,
and if his command is off, you know, the results
won't be there all the time. So I think it's
just a matter though, like if you can sharpen that up,
if you can get back to being able to get
the swing and miss with the slider, maybe more so
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like he did in that first game, if he can
continue to throw strikes where he wants them to. Yeah,
sure he could start a playoff game. But there's just
a lot of things, but a lot of factors of play,
you know, both involving his performance and just the health
of everyone else on the on the staff.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So do you like this team? Like, do you think
this is a team and I know where we've got
so many guys hurt. I mean, now, like when you
look at the way it is constructed, and if Mookie
comes back and Yamamoto can start a game and Glass
now stays healthy and all that sort of stuff, Like,
does this look like a World Series caliber team to you? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:11):
Sure? I mean have you seen the other teams around
the league, Like it's just a.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Bunch as these guys.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Andy, Gotta be honest with you, We see these guys
most of the time.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
I no, no, no, no, I understand, Sorry I was
being confucious. I mean I think that like This is
not a season we've had years before where there's like
one hundred and five to one hundred and ten win teams.
There's like Juggernauts. I think there's not really a super
team this year. I think there's a lot of pretty
good teams. There's probably you know, five or so that
have really separated themselves, and the Dodgers are one of those.
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But yeah, they're going through a rough stretch. You know,
San Diego is really you know, kind of hit their
stride recently. The Diamondbacks look pretty good, and so it's
gonna end up being probably more of a race in
the division than they expected. But I still expect them
to win. And so, like, look, if they're getting the
version of Jack Flaherty, who you know, you've seen in
Detroit for the past few months, that would, you know,
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make their chances of being in the World Series a
lot better. If Tommy Edmond can come back healthy and
be that sort of league average hitter who can play
four or five different positions, that's a huge help. If
Beth comes back, if Yamamoto comes back, if Glasmouse stays healthy. Like, so,
they need a lot of things to click in order
to you know, win obviously, but they're a really good club.
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They have as good a chance to win the World
Series as anyone. Right now.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Well, around here we have something, we have something called
the Panic Brothers, and we all sit up straight when
the Dodgers start losing, We stay up late, we freak out.
So you're saying the panic, Uh, the Dodger fans should
not be in a panic over this rash of injuries,
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this uh losing of the games, the sweeping that the
Padres just gave them. Uh, no panic there, You don't
You don't do you think there should be a modicum
of panic, any panic?
Speaker 7 (21:59):
I think there should be concerned. Yeah, for all the
reasons you mentioned and all of that. Yeah, Like I
just I totally understand the you know, like if you're
watching them every day, you're like, this team isn't a
super team. It's like, no, it turns out they're not.
It turns out they're you know, they're going to fall
short of the expectation of this club. You know that
maybe they thought they might be in part because of
injury and under performance in a few ways. But like
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they're still very well situated for the rest of the year,
and we'll see how it plays out. I mean, I
think they have some clause, but there is no obvious
team that they're like, well, they just they can't be
for these guys, there's just no way if they can
get by them.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
You know.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
And as you guys know, like there have been seasons
when the Dodgers have been that team where it's like
no one is beating them. They are so well set
up for October and then the NLCS starts and they're
not playing. So playoffs are you know, obviously a pretty
random affair, and like they just really they need their
best players to collect some hits in the postseason onlike
the past couple of years, and they'll probably have a
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better shot.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Going back to your earlier point asking us, if we
have seen the other team teams in the league, you have, did.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
This Dodge what look like what's going on on that?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Did this Dodger team and stuff?
Speaker 7 (23:08):
They're great?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Did this Dodger team need someone like Tommy fam at
the trade deadline? It does seem like, you know, they've
got ta Oscar and and he is, you know, kind
of the emotional guy. But it does seem like this
is a collection of stars that are kind of flatline
guys that that don't really get that kind of thing going,
and Fam just seem like the perfect dude you could
drop into this mix. Not to mention a clutch postseason performer.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
Yeah, I mean I think that is one thought for sure,
Like you know, you're looking to uh sort of inject
some life. Tommy Fam is a man who lives life
to the fullest in a variety of different ways. I
think that the counter argument would be, like, if you've
got a bunch of guys who are more, you know,
sort of low heartbeat type players, like do you want
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to inject that into the mix? Is that the right
way to sort of handle it? And I think, look,
at the end of the day, like he is a
he is a good player, Like how often would he
beginning it? That's for this team? You know, he basically
be sort of a platuned guy who you might have
to you know, defend for late in games. So the
utility is kind of limited. I don't think they're not
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a club that sort of needs like a spark. You know,
they needed like Garrett Crochet to not be requesting a
extension contract extension, so they could have done that right,
Like they needed like Trek Scoogle to be slightly worse
than he is, the Tigers would be considering trading him.
They need your chanel, We have a moto to be healthy,
like they need those of bigger things to happen rather
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than I think adding on the margins.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
How big of a deal is the bullpen issue in
this moment? Is it just that they're overworked? Is it
that these guys are old and Joe Kelly and Blake
trying In and Daniel Hudson, they just don't you know,
it's kind of weird to trust guys that are all
on the wrong side of thirty five at this point. Like,
what would your level of concern be, because we know
what that looks like in the postseason and man it
has bit them in the ass way too many times.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's a that's a source
of concern obviously. You know, Evan Phillips has not been
as good as maybe you would of liked. I still think,
you know, you feel okay with Hudson and trying and
you know, even Kelly pitching in the protseason, maybe Kelly
less so than the other two. It's but yeah, like
it's a relievers are weird because they have like a
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bad two week stretch. It just looks awful, Like there's
no sort of part of a team that when it
goes bad, looks worse because when the bullpen stops working,
you're like, this team is doomed because they kind of
are blowing leads and you know the game is not
sort of following the natural progression. But I think, you know,
someone like Brent Honeywell has been a real good addition.
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They have a lot of you know, sort of younger
players who might be able to slot into different roles.
I mean, I would I think if they are in
still this sort of mess on like September fifteenth, Yeah,
that's when you really hit the panic button. Right now
they have some time to sort of sort things through
for guys to you know, maybe not be you know,
sort of beaten into the ground for a month. The
rotation can give them a little bit more length and
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to get situated for October.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Andy McCullough, senior MLB writer at The Athletic. He wrote
the Kershaw Book. Of course, you've been around Kershaw a
whole bunch. Just to steer it back to the book, Andy,
you don't think he's deflated incorporated after being so old
and in the league so long after last night, I
think he's going to bounce back.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
I mean, yeah, that's generally how he's been in his career.
You know, it seems dumb to bet against him. I
do think though, that you're just dealing with sort of
physical complications that are a little different, and that is
more of a process to wait to sort of get
through and to sort of get back to normal than
he had been accustomed to. But you know, you saw
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in the first outing like the stuff can still be
there and if the slider is working, like he's still
going to be pretty good.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
The great Andy McCullough always appreciate it when he checks in.
Been a little too long since we last talked to him.
A great book, great insight and a long time Dodger
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at the Athletic Go. Get you to a subscription and
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We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Andy.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Thanks Andy, Hey, thanks much for having me, guys, and.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
We'll be back with more great sports talk in the
very next segment.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Film No Wark Corner.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
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Speaker 4 (28:02):
All right, Matt, we're very excited to present a film Noir.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Corner PMS Film Noir Corner.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
He'll be too sure. I'm a going up as I'm
supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I thought a reputation might be good business.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Here's a gay petrol stipe perks all right, Matt.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Because the Olympics are in France, and there's been so
much talk of the French and how filthy they are
and how dirty their river is.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We have to start things off French connection too.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Oh hell yeah, yes, hell yes. Nineteen seventy one, Gene Hackman,
Can he get his man?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
The evil heroin dealer Alaine Shannie Hackman as Popeye Doyle,
who was a real dude based on a real New
York cop who tracks Shannye to the filthiest city in
all of France. And no it's not Paris, it's Marseille,
play the massive and he shoots him off a boat
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right at the end. Spoiler alert, But not before.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Why would you do that? Why would you spoil this
film like that. It's quite old. It's only fifty three
years old. Good math.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Not before though, Matt, he gets addicted to heroin, has
to row dog rehab in a French jail, come back strong,
work out in a leather jacket, and in pure Popeyed
Doyle fashion, he kills and gets people killed at an
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unbelievable clip, and he doesn't care about it. He just
keeps going. I don't give it, damn. This is a
special film and considered to be one of the truly
great sequels of all time, along with Empire, Godfather too.
Of course Karate Kid Part two and D two. Team
USA is going down. That's where they're going. Jazz star
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Don Allis did the soundtrack cop Jazz. He did the
soundtrack for the first one too, and uh it is
a really underrated sequel, one of the all time greats.
Here is a very culture shocked Gene Hackman as Popeye
Doyle trying to order a drink in a Marseilles bar.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Like a forros straight up, waters straight up and water on.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
The side of.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Herman.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
M h, can you give me some help here?
Speaker 5 (31:07):
No help?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Jack Daniels, Jackie.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Jackie, Jackie Daniels, jack Jackie. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Scotch Y right there?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Hell Scott Joe whiskey glass any glass?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Maybe? No?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I don't want.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
All right whiskey whiskey? Yes, no, I don't want the
ice all right, Matt Now, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Four, Fast forward, Thinks have changed fifty one years the
world fifty three years.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Love Lies Bleeding twenty twenty four, Making the rounds on
TV Right now here you have Kristin Stewart from Twildlight,
Ed Harris big, I mean right stuff, Jennam alone, one
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of the Franco brothers. Kind of a brutal movie Matt.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Which one of the Franco brothers got in a lot
of trouble with James.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
That was the that was the This is the other
brother who's like a better actor.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Good guy, right, I guess maybe.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Based in New Mexico in nineteen eighty nine, Stewart plays
a lonely, reclusive gym manager who is a lesbian named Lou.
She falls for Jackie, a homeless lesbian bodybuilder in nineteen
eighty nine. Now, Lou's family has criminal ties. That's Ed Harris,
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her dad.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Yeah, he's a good criminal guy.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
And things are very complex. There's wife beating, there's steroid abuse.
That's the best part is that Lou has all these
steroids at the gym because it's nineteen eighty nine in
New Mexico. And she pumps her homeless friend full of
all these.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Roids, Mexican veterinary grade roids, and.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
She flips her lid.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
She beats James Franco's brother into a coffee table so
hard that his jaw flies off and he dies.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Does she didn't pick up the jawbone and beat somebody else?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
No, No, they bury the body, although she does kill
somebody else, but no, not in a Sampson like jawbone
of an ass killing all the philistines. Well done, man,
great late eighty steroid wackiness here.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
And you just can't. You just can't.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
It's hard to replicate that.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Like Latimer and the program, you just can't write. You
can't overstate how great that is for guys like us.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
The person that made this movie wrote and directed an
English lady named Rose Class and she she made a
movie called Maud of horror.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Movie that everybody liked that.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Here are the women meeting some dudes from the gym,
you know, try to take the hot bodybuilder out and
steal her from the lesbian is. It's your place.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
No, I just work here.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Okay, you're looking pretty good in there. Yeah, I guess
some pretty serious lines going.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Jackey, and there.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
You are.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
A couple of beefcakes ladies. That's right with you, lou Hey,
I want to go grab a drink right now, if
you want to come with us here, babe, here is
a great age, right is so.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yeah, come on, yeah, No, she don't want to go
with you.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
She wants to create a lesbian There's a.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Lot of lesbian sex scenes. Matt, just like that Giniker,
Sean Jennifer Tilly movie Bound Bound.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
It's about to say money Train.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
I was like, no, oh, money Train's got j Lo
Yes Bound and Woody and Wesley Bound. Uh well, cough
the Matrix people. I think did Bound right?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I don't know. I know Joey Pants is in it. Yeah,
we'll be back.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
I like that. Kristen Stewart.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
We have another hour of great sports talk. That is
your film Noir Corner Today from nineteen sixty one, French
Connection two and from twenty twenty four, Love Lies, Bleeding,
the Dodgers Lied, Bleeding Tim Kates with Dodger Talk at seven.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
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