July 16, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of "Hart-Knox" filling in for Petros and Money. Jerry Rice takes on a heckler. Host of "Hoops Talk" Allen Sliwa joins the show to talk about the Lakers offseason. The World Cup Final between Spain and Argentina is the most expensive sporting event in U.S. history.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's a Petrosen money show here on AM five seventy
LA Sports as I like to refer to it the
Blowtorch here in Southern California.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
He is Steve Hartman.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm Jonas Knox, a Little Heart Knox Edition in for
the guys here on AM five seventy, your home of
the back to back World Series champion Dodgers, and a
reminder the Dodgers do start the second half of the
season tomorrow right here, Dodgers on deck. Pregame at three o'clock,
first pitch at four to five. Now, Steve, I, you know,
(00:34):
sometimes in today's climate, when you see stories pop up,
I have to kind of take a step back and go,
all right, is it either a fake account?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
AI Like some of the stuff that goes on now
that we have video of just seems a.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Little bit outlandish.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I didn't realize that the Jerry Rice altercation at the
golf tournament up in Lake Tahoe was a real thing
that actually happened, that he got somebody was heckling him
and instead.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Of just wearing it, Jerry's at the point in.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
His life where he's like, f this, I got a
callaway nine iron or whatever. I got in my hand
and I'm going to go approach this guy and ran
down to try and get a hold of him. Your guy,
Jerry Rice, a little bit volatile at a golf tournament.
Have a cocktail, dude, Relax.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
So this golf tournament. I covered this golf tournament for
a number of years. I was actually there the second
year they ever had the golf tournament, which was nineteen
ninety one, and then I ended up doing it for
six right years ten years later, from two thousand and
one to two thousand and six. So Jerry Rice's last
year playing in the NFL was two thousand and four,
(01:43):
and he was always part of this golf tournament. Obviously,
all these years later, he's stills up there. So I
never get this. So we have a hotel room where
I was staying in the hotel rooms up there in
Lake Tahoe, and I'm leaving my hotel room to go
out to the golf course. And as I I approached
the door to leave my room, I hear like the
(02:06):
like like the the ground is shaky okay outside my door,
And I'm like, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Sound like an emergency? I just I get here.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
So I immediately opened the door and I look to
my right and down at the end of this hallway
is Jerry Rice.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
And I'm looking at him like, are you okay? I mean,
I knew who.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
He was, obviously he didn't know who I was, but
I'm just like, you know, and he's like, yeah, I'm
just doing my wind sprints. I'm like, what, I thought
you were retired? He goes, no, I'm going to have
a workout with the Broncos. I think I can still play.
And he's like talking to me, like literally, and then
as as he had, he was running sprints up and down.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
The hallway at the hotel.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
At the hotel, I was like, dude, if I do
you what to say? Like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
By the way, how long was he with the Broncos? Forty?
He make it to the season? Oh, he did it.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
He went to training. I guess he had a workout.
He never played. He never played that season. The last
team he played with was the Seahawks. Yeah, after got
let go by the Raiders, and you know, he actually
stuck for seconds. I told him, you know, I worked
for the Raiders way back in the day. Obviously when
he was I was actually there on draft day when
the forty nine ers jumped us in the draft.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
To take Jerry Rice. I'll never forget.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Everyone was like, gee, you know with the Raiders interested
in Jerry Rice. I'm like, no, he runs a four
six forty.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
No, we're not interested in him. We took a different guy.
But this guy is.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
He is very intense. There is a reason why he is.
In the opinion of many people. We always talk about
the goat. You talk about guy, a guy who has records.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
That will never be broken. That is Jerry Rice. No
one is ever gonna come close to his all time
receiving records, never ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Look, man, and I get it. You deal with a heckler.
The guy's a clown. He had probably been drinking a
little bit, not Jerry, the other guy. If Jerry was drinking,
he wouldn't have ran after the guy. He'd just be
more a little bit more relaxed. But it's like, dude,
this is my problem with golf tournaments.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You have the Waste Management Open in Phoenix where anything goes,
I mean anything goes. They're throwing you know, bras ball gags,
you name it, on the course. They're like anything you
want to happen at the waist Management opened in Phoenix
is fine. This whole idea that, hey man, it's golf,
got a hush hush, gotta.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Keep it down over there. Jerry should be used to this.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
He played at Candlestick all those years he played at
the coliseum, like, he's played in some pretty rough environments
with some pretty rough people. The idea that some goofball
running around yelling at athletes at a golf tournament would
set him off to where he's got to run after
the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And be like, which one, which one? What are we
doing here? Do you know what.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Lisorti used to say about golf. He goes, let me
get this straight. These guys are standing over a ball
that's not moving, okay, just sitting on the ground, and
they're trying to hit this ball, you know, like on
a green or off the tee or wherever.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
In baseball.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I'm standing at the plate and I got a guy
thrown one hundred miles an hour, or he's got a
you know, a sinker that drops four feet.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I got people.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Screaming at my ear, strike out, you bum, And I
got to focus on.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Trying to hit this moving.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Baseball, but you got to look out for the golfers,
like you got to think. And by the way, forty
to sixty thousand people at Dodger Stadium is a little
bit more than what was there, like two to three
hundred people maybe at this golf.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
The golfers will tell you it's that sudden in his section.
It's that sudden noise. So if it is absolutely silent
and you're just standing there, you know, that was the
thing about Tiger.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
You know, Tiger was like one of.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
The first named golfers that would curse, you know, because
the you know, the mic was always on Tiger and
he would people.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Like, oh, you can't say that. He's like, no, I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Gonna say that.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I'm trying to hit the stupid ball, and you're so
golfer's argument it is, it's not the if you have
that constant noise, which obviously every other sport has, you know,
then it's sort of tuned out. It's the idea of
going from complete silence and you're standing and focused on
that shot.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
All of a sudden, that sudden you know somebody yelling out, sid.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Hey, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
My son and I frequent golf and stuff, okay in Ventura,
and look, he doesn't give a rip that I'm in
my back swing, like he's going to either hit my
ball or he's going to bump into me, or he's
gonna yell something, and it's probably gonna be in Spanish, which.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Is really gonna throw me off.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So this whole idea that Jerry Rice is going to
get uptight about a guy yelling at him, I don't
get it. Here's the other place where I don't understand.
And I didn't realize that this was actually the case.
Bowling events, Professional bowling events. So Brady Quinn told me
a story that Rob Stone was calling a PBA event
in Florida, and so it was not far from where
Brady was living at the time, so he him and
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his daughters and his wife wanted to go see Rob Stone.
They worked together on Big Noon Kickoff. They made signs,
they made all this stuff to show up and we're like, yeah,
we're gonna cheer on rub and they were told no, no,
you got to keep it quiet, like you got to
it's a it's a bullying you gotta keep it quiet.
It's like really like it's a bowling alley and it's
not like it's a partially open bowling alley because it's
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not open to the public that day. But we got
to keep it quiet. I just think for for these
guys that are so worried about a little bit of
crowd noise, like a mouse cuts a fart three rows
up and they've got to throw their club for them
to worry about that. To Tomylasorda's point to go be
go go stand in there. Yeah, when a guy's throwing
ninety eight at your eyebrows and you've got people screaming
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because they've been drinking since the parking lot before the game,
and they tell me something.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Yeah, I don't I got sort of was like, I
don't get it. I don't get it. The ball's not moving.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
It's just wherever you're hitting the ball, it just sitting
there all It's not like your hidio moving by the
balls is sitting there and you got to hit the.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Ball by the way.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I've seen uh so, I've interviewed Jerry Rice could not
have been nicer. I've seen him, I think once in
person outside of a media event and can't even make
this up. He was at I'm pretty sure it was
Burbank Airport. It might have been lax, but he was
at Burbank Airport getting his shoes shined on one of
(08:31):
those platforms where you sit ups.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Sit up and somebody shines your shoes. And every time
I walk by those, I'm like, there's no way anybody
uses those.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
There's no way anybody uses those except for Jerry.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
He is the ticket.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
He was so notorious as a player. Everything was perfect.
That's Jerry Rice, right, He is.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
A When we say perfectionists, that.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Can be a little overused cliche. Jerry Rice is that.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And again, if you're doing something to disrupt his stride
for perfection, yes, even on the golf course, you will
face the wrath.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
And that's exactly what hey, dude, you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Jerry the greatest of all time. He is Steve Hartman.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I'm Jonas Knox here on AM five seventy l a
Sports Little Heart Knox Edition, filling in for Petro some
money on this Thursday. Up next, we're gonna get to
the bottom of this.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Who broke up with? Who was it Lebron? Was it
the Lakers? The answer is yours.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Next, Petro send money with La Sports.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
No, it's a Petro's Money Show Here on AM five
(10:15):
to seventy LA Sports Steve Hartman Jonas Knox in for
the guys here a little Hard Knocks edition, by the way,
coming up in a little over fifteen minutes from now.
We are going to tell you about how things are
a little pricey in the world of sports. But don't worry,
somebody kind of has your back. That'll be yours again
fifteen minutes from now. Right now, though, he is the
great Alan Sleie with joining us here on AM five seventy,
(10:37):
the host of Hoops Talk on YouTube and you can
hear it on the iHeartRadio app. Alan never a dull moment.
Did you think you were gonna get a little bit
of a break or is the NBA off season just
been a roaring success for you and yours?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Well, if you know Lebron hits free agency, I think
we could excit. I don't know what's gonna come first,
if his decision or the start of NFL full So
it's neck to neck right now. It can go either way,
but I'll take the content. I'm sure you guys are
enjoying the content as well.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, I mean, Steve's fired up about having to talk
Lebron for the next company.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, I mean, Alan, look, we need to separate fact
from fiction here. I mean this whole thing that Rich
Paul has been orchestrating. The best was I actually did
this on TV the other day. I guess they had
to run a story during the week that he was
getting like voice messages, and I'm thinking, sure, yeah, like
you're getting voice messages, like, let me get this straight.
So a GM in the NBA is calling you about
maybe making a deal, you know, to sign Lebron James,
(11:34):
and you good put him on voicemail like that.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
None of this makes sense.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
The only thing that has ever made sense to me
is the fact that he wants to finish his career
with the Cavaliers where it all started. They're trying to
work a deal, trying to leverage as much money as
they can get out of the Calves, maybe find a
way to bring Browny from the Lakers into a Calves uniform.
All the other stuff, to me is pure fantasy land.
So I want to hear it from someone far closer
(12:01):
to the situation than I am.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
That is Alan Sleewah.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Do you believe there's any legitimacy to the Sixers, or
the Heat or the multitude of teams. According to rich Ball,
everyone wants Lebron James. Every player, every general manager, every
coach is just begging, begging to get Lebron James to
sign with them. I maintain there's only one team that
and I don't even know if they're interested, and that's
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the cast.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
But tell us the truth.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Where are we right now legitimately in terms of the
future of Lebron James in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Well, I'll say this, I'll say that, Yeah, I think
there's you know, obviously the likelihood of him going to
one of these other teams maybe not as high, But
I don't think it was crazy to think that Ken
Draymond and Steph and Steve Kerr convince him to just
take a look and see what the Warriors are doing
and see if there's a way that Jimmy Butler gets healthy.
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That'd be pretty fun. Or if the Philadelphia seventy sixers
come knocking and say, look, look at your team with
the Cavs, look at our team here in Philly. Which
one would you think would give you more opportunity to
compete in the Eastern Conference. Philly is always going to
have the path, and I think it makes the most
sense from a He could end his career there and
he could eventually get his retirement tour there, and he
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won an NBA championship with the Cleveland Cavaliers. But I
don't think it's absurd for some of these other teams
to have a shot or to at least pitch Lebron.
I mean, the whole thing. It's before free agency started.
It was the day before free agency started, Sham's came
out with a tweet basically saying he's not coming back
to the Lakers. Here we are two and a half
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weeks later and he still has yet to make a decision.
And what was he teasing today? He was doing that
Fanatics thing with and he's doing the Mind the Game
podcast with Tyrus Alberry. He's like, I'm just not ready
to make a decision yet. The whole thing is absurd.
Of course, it's just to grab attention, and we know
how much and Rich Paul loved their attention at the
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same time, we're the ones talking about it. So I
don't know, am I the idiot? I've been talking about
it and I think we've all kind of consumed it.
But is it annoying, of course it is.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well. I mean, if Team USA wouldn't have crapped down
their leg and Seattle against Belgium, we could be talking
about that.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So I blame them.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I put all the blame on US Soccer for putting
in this point to where we've got to go down
the Lebron decision yet again. I am curious though, for
people you've talked to or at least in your mind,
who broke up with who, because it was Lebron and
them that came out with the initial statement that he
would be continue his career, just.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Not with the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
But was this really did they do him a solid
and say, look, we'll let you release the news first,
but we're out on this whole thing together.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I mean, I think down the road maybe we'll get
more details. And both sides have been very professional about it.
But didn't the Lakers kind of give their indication a
year ago when they didn't give Lebron that they didn't
give him a one plus one. It was the first
time Lebron and I don't know how many years was
going to become an unrestricted free agent, and I think
the Lakers were kind of prepared for that, I think
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they understood that eventually, if last year's run was going
to be their final one with Lebron, what was it
going to look like. Were they really going to be
competing in the Western Conference to or competing for an
NBA championship? And I think it was apparent. I mean,
if you brought Lebron back, does it get them any closer?
And I'm not telling you that they'll be closer with
the new roster that they have, but I do think
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that I think ultimately, I thought the Lakers gave indications
a year ago when they didn't allow Lebron to hold
the keys anymore, and it wasn't just going to be
like it has been for Lebron James kind of dictating
with every franchise that he's been So I think both
sides approached it very professional, But I would look a
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little bit more into the details of what happened a
year ago to tell a little bit more of the story.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, as far as the Laker organization is concerned, obviously
with the Guggenheim Group, Mark Walter and company learning a
new game because obviously with the Dodgers of Major League Baseball,
they don't have to deal with a salary cap.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
So this is a process.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Obviously, Rob Polink is still there, but they're adding to
their management team, and you know, my guess is they're
learning on the fly right now how to deal with
this salary cap and really trying to squeeze every cent
out of it. So that being said, right now, we
know what they did in less than twenty four hours
after Lebron you know, said it's.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Time to move on. But where are they going next?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I mean, you know, Jonas and I were talking about
this yesterday where we were saying, you know, this is
the first step.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
But do you get a sense.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Right now that they're just sort of feeling their way
through this and then trying to build over the next
couple of years what they hope plan on having a
championship level team.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I think they're doing what any new ownership does when
they come in, or at least good ownership. Is I
kind of assess internally, all right, what's it look like.
Do they have to make changes right away? Not necessarily
eventually they started making changes internally, I think that they
have to be looking at where there is no salary cap.
Is the front office, all right, how can we add
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to what we already have. I'm sure they're looking at all, right,
who would be the top five president of basketball operations
around the NBA. Would you put Plank on that list?
I wouldn't. I think most people wouldn't. So I think
they're certainly assessing what Rob Polanka is doing on a
day to day basis. But it is a process, and
I think that you know, and I don't think Laker
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fans are delusional on this side. And maybe I'm wrong
on this. I think they do know that it's going
to take a second. And you know, the Oklahoma City
th Under weren't built overnight. Neither were the San Antonio Spurs.
I mean, technically you drafted Wemby and maybe maybe that's
a different maybe that's not the best example. But in
today's NBA, you have Luka Dancic, you have one of
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the top five players in the NBA. You got to
build around him. You have to be very strategic of
what you do with every single position that you have
out there. But I think equally as important, if not
more important, you've got to make sure that the front
office and your scouting and your development and your analytics team,
they don't have a salary cap in that department. So
I think as much as we all want to see
they signed this player, they signed that player, I would
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pay just as much attention to what are they doing
with their front office.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Allen Sleewood joining us here on AM five to seventy
LA Sports Steve Hartman, Jonas Knox in for Petro some money.
So in saying that, have they closed the gap at
all in the Western Conference? Or is this a situation
where they're taking one step back to take two steps
forward down the road.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, I don't think they've closed the gap, but I
really think it's also incredibly tough to If you told
me what I have rather seen the Lakers run it
back with Ruley and Marcus Smart and Luke Kennard and
Lebron and Jackson Hayes and DeAndre Ayten or take the
route that they took. I'd rather see this route that
they're taking because I think there's more question marks about
the ceiling is and what the bottom is. But I
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do think it's an organization that look like they have
a plan around building you know, obviously around Luka Doncic,
but I don't know what that's going to translate to
Can I sit here and confidently tell you that the
squad that they put together is top three in the West.
I'm not sure if they're going to be top three.
I think they're going to be one of the toughest
teams to figure out coming into the season because they
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made so many drastic changes. Walker Kessler played five games
last year. Austin Reeves now is going to have a
completely different The expectations Foster, He's going to be completely
different than it was in the past. I mean, hell,
this last playoff run, he was making fourteen to fifteen
million dollars and people were already all over him. What
is it going to be like if he plays like
that and he's making forty million a year. So I
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think it's going to be really really tough to kind
of gauge what the Lakers are today. But just based
off of who they lost, the vets that they had on,
I think this is a take a step back, try
to take a step forward in the near future.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Totally unrelated to the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
What is your read on what's happening with the Kawhi
Leonards situation right now? I mean, why is there in
this delay on this investigation that you know. I remember
Commissioner Silver was talking about this at the beginning of
June that they were close to a decision, and here
we are a month and a half later. Obviously a
trade has been made, at least on paper, but it
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won't go through until they come to some resolve on
this situation. And now they're investigating another level on this.
So what's happening? Is there any danger that this trade
will not actually happen?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I think it's a bad look for everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I know.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I don't know have to explain that to you guys.
It's a bad look for the NBA, it's a bad
look for the Clippers, it's a bad look for Kawhi.
I think it's natural to think. And I know Adam
Silver what he talked yesterday the day before. It's like, no,
you know, everything's fine. I mean, that's what he's going
to say. But I think it's it's more than fair
to look at the situation and say, wait a minute, here,
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is there something more that you know, we don't know about.
Can this actually be something that affects the uh, you know,
the organization, or it stops the trade from going through.
I think Toronto's trying to be incredibly responsible. But at
the same time, you know, they kind of everything was
already on the table when they did agree to a deal,
so the whole thing seems a little funky. I've heard
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some people say, well, if they're making if, if we've
got to this point, maybe there's more there than we think.
I've heard Sean Sharania talk about nobody, you know, worst
case scenario. No, he doesn't think worst case scenario is
going to happen. But it's left more questions than it
has answers.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It feels, and we were kind of mentioning this yesterday.
How many people would really care if it came out
that the Clippers had done you know, we're circumventing the
cap to bring Kawhi in. I almost look at it
as haven't they been through enough? Like can't we he
goes to Toronto. The Clippers, you know, are rebuilding and
going in a different direction. The idea that you're going
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to keep litigating this, you know, through this way, through
the media, through the reports over and over again. I
just don't know why they're the example the NBA wants
to make.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I would say this, I don't know if and again
we don't know what happens behind the scenes. But let's
just say hypothetically, this was their creative way of getting Kawhi,
and Kawhi comes to the Clippers and he doesn't go
to the Lakers or doesn't go to another team, I
think you have to I think you have to put
the hammer down. Now. Do I think the NBA is
going to do it? No, I don't, And I don't
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think this is a haven't the Clippers gone through enough?
I think this is more of a message around the
league that if you think that you can. You know,
one of the main reasons why I think the NBA
has had some of the success that they have. There's parody,
there's there's different champions every year, and you know, we'll
see what happens with baseball. But people a lot of
people look at baseball and say, hey, should they take
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a similar model to what the NBA, NFL and some
of these other leagues are doing. And you got a
team going rogue and saying, yeah, we're going to find
a creative way to pay Kawhi Leonard so that he
comes here. I think you have to set an example.
And if it is the Clippers and it is the
richest owner in all of sports in Steve Baumber and
this is what they get hit with. And I think
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they deserve every you know, everything that comes to them.
I think they would it would It's on them and
they would deserve it.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Getting back to Lebron for a moment here, Alan, Obviously,
last year was a very different year for Lebron for
the first time in his entire basketball life. And I
was telling Jonas yesterday the first time that I ever
heard the name Lebron James. I had Sonny Vacerro on
my show This is back in two thousand and I
asked him, you know, who's the best high school player
in the country.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
We had, you know, college recruiting going out at the time.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
He goes the best basketball high school is a ninth
grader out of Akron.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Ohio named Lebron James. And that was the first time
I heard the name.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
And ever since then, obviously he has been the dominant
force on any team played in with even though he's
obviously played with some great players over the course of
his career.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Last year was different.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
It wasn't his team, but then all of a sudden,
you know, with Luca getting heard and ar out, you know,
he took over and they beat Houston in that series.
Of course, people will commediately forget that Durant really was
out of that series, but nonetheless, he played well and
they won a playoff series.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
What exactly are you signing up for?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
In other words, whatever team does sign Lebron James at
this point of his career, is he a game changer?
Is he that last missing piece that could put the
Cavaliers or the Sixers or any other team over the
top and rain his NBA champions?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Is he still that kind of player?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
And would he play a supporting role or does he
still have to be the top dog?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah? I mean, honestly, like, I don't really see if
I could sit here and tell you that the decision
is annoying, and how come Lebron takes this long? And
oh my gosh, this guy wants all the attention. I
could go down the list of all that stuff. But
is he still a legit, legit player that can put
you over the top. Absolutely? I mean, you know, they're
going up last year against the Houston Rockets. He was
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the best player in the series. They had no shot
against the Oklahoma City Thunder. I understand Luca wasn't playing
it is what it is. But you put him on
a team that's already established, and he could be the
fourth best player on that team or the third best
player on that team, and you're not asking him to
give you thirty minutes a night, and you're not asking
him to carry the team, and you're not asking him
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to play eighty two regular season games. Look, he's one
of the greatest to ever play the game, and it's
not even a question. Stylistically, he was a combination and
still is a combination of magic. And you take all
these different types of players Paul alone, and you put
him together, and that's Lebron. I absolutely still think if
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he's in the right situation, he's used properly, they pace him.
Why can't he be a difference maker in the postseason
he's in the Eastern Conference, Sure absolutely he can. And
I think that that's what kind of makes his situation
so fascinating because every single year over the last three
four years, we keep saying it's done, it's done, it's done,
it ain't done. And you know, who knows, maybe his
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twenty fourth year there'll be a huge drop off. But
he's doesn't give us the indication that.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I don't know why I would bet against Lebron in
that type of predicament.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Alan quickly before we let you go favorite and least
favorite Lakers move this offseason as what.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Look, you needed a real center. And I know Walker
Kesler's got a lot to prove, and I know the
Lakers gave up draft compensation for him. But seven foot
two rebounds plays defense, will be an anchor on the
defensive side. I think that's just kind of for me.
It's a no brainer. Getting Walker Kesler, I thought was
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so big least favorite move. Yeah, this is gonna sound
like I'm critical about the player, which I'm not. I
think Austin Reeves is a phenomenal player, but they're going
to be paying a lot of money for aud There's
gonna be a lot of pressure on Austin Reeves. So
I do think they had to bring him back. I
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don't think that that was I don't think they had
an option on that. Maybe actually no, maybe I'll shift
here a little bit. I think the Marcus Smart not
having Marcus Smart on the Lakers is going to hurt
the Lakers. And I don't think he signed for much
in Houston and I know the Lakers are taking more
of a younger approach, but not bringing Marcus Smart back.
I think we will have an effect on the Lakers.
I was a big fan of him on and off
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the floor.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
He's the host of Hoops Talk on YouTube and on
the iHeartRadio app. He's the great Alan slee We spend
in a few minutes with us here on a Thursday.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Alan, thanks so much, man. We'll do it again soon.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Thank you, boys, appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
There.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
He is the great Alan Sleeer with us here at
Steve Hartman and Jonas Knox in for Petro some money
here on AM five to seventy LA Sports and hey,
somebody's looking out for your well being. They know it's
getting pricey out there, kind of we'll tell you who it.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Is next.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Ahead.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
That's one.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Right to me, Patrol send money available on the free
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Now, all right, rolling along here on another very very
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busy Thursday in the sports world.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I know that we don't have a full load.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Of games, and of course the Dodgers getting ready for
the weekend series against the Yankees, a great way to
open up the second half of the season. As far
as the Dodgers are concerned against their arch rivals, and
I've hated the Yankees my entire life, Jonas, So once again,
Steve Hartman, Jonas knocks in for petros and money here
on M five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Okay, Jonas, I.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Know that it's a little bit hard for some of
the listeners out there to relate to people like you
and I in this industry because we basically can get
pretty much a ticket for most sporting events that we
want to attend. We can credentials. You don't whoa whoa
whoa whoa. No, you got to talk to Scott, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I mean, first of all, you are a national Monday.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Through Friday superstar personality. You can pretty much go anywhere
you want, whenever you want to go.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Steve, I drive it six to coma. I'm not sure
you can get to where I.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Want to go.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Are we're talking about now?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I will say this, You're a luminary and a legend
and a Hall of famer in this town.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I'm some slappy with the rabbit chuck e cheese. Let's
not forget well.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I'll tell you where I can't go, and that is
World Cup. FIFA is an.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Operation that absolutely separates themselves.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Think about it.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
You can't call it so far right.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's La Stadium, stadium, was the Leattle Stadium.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I mean they would even allow the sponsors of these
stadiums to have their names uttered.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
In Foxboro where the Patriots play, they made them cover
up the sponsor on the back of the seats inside
the stadium, so it's almost like they had post it
notes covering up their sponsor and they were taking them
all off as the final game at Foxboro was being played.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I had to go through literally a two month process
to get a credential that I never actually used. I
never attended any of the World Cup matches, but they
wanted me to go through the process and it was
so complicated.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
It was absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Reason don't I heard you can't take a lengthy videos
there and posted on our social media.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You can't like it.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
It was like a real they're really grinding your nuts
and advice.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
But that's the way FIFA operates, all right.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
So we're almost to the end of This's got this
championship match obviously between Spain and Argentina out at MetLife,
so I'm trying to think about this because I have
some producers over at KTLA that.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Are really die hard soccer guys.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And the last match that was at Sofi Stadium. You know,
we were hoping it was going to be Spain US.
It ended up being Spain versus Belgium. He had already
attended one match, but at the last second he thought,
this is my last chance to go again.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
He spent thirteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
No, I'm out thirteen hundred.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I know the guy's not swimming in money.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Thirteen to ten a second match because it was the
World Cup to see Spain and Belgium.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Look, I know this.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
My brother, my oldest brother, Nick, told me a story
that he went to the ninety four World Cup. He
got free tickets Brazil Italy. That was the Bagio miss
over the goal that he still can't live down. He's
one of the greatest players of all time, but that's
almost like his Buckner moment, and he said it's one
of the greatest sporting events he's ever been to. Those
are free, so like that made some sense not paying
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thirteen hundred dollars or whatever it is to go watch
a bunch of players play, whose names I can't pronounce,
and I'm sorry, I'm not trying to friend like I'm
above it all.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I've paid a.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Hefty penny to go see certain games, but I just don't.
And this is what makes me laugh about like Arthur
Blank and the Falcon So Arthur Blank for Pulah don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
And Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
He's got this long standing tradition where the concession prices
are really low. It's almost like the Masters in Augusta
to where you can get, you know, a bag of
chips for three bucks, a hot dog for two fifty.
It's like it's it's a you know, completely different from
everywhere you go. The problem is it's sixty five hundred
dollars to get into the England Argentina game. So that like, listen,
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if I'm paying thirteen grand for two tickets to get
into a game, don't insult me by saying, oh, don't
worry about it. Here's a bag of rolled goals for
two fifty. I kiss my ass, like can I get
it for free? Like I don't want to shell out
two singles and two quarters so I can get a
bag of chips when I paid sixty five hundred dollars
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for nosebleeds Now.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Jonas, there's still time for you to be there on
Sunday at ment left. So the cheapest available resale tickets
right now are starting at about eight thousand.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Oh my god, that's the cheapest seat.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
In the house.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
The average is about eleven thousand per ticket. And by
the way, you could get a lower level midfield seat
for somewhere under two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, here's the part I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
The at home experience to watch sports now is better.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Than it's ever been.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
You literally have access to every angle, every everything. You
don't have to wait in a bathroom line. You can
go buy you know, a thirty pack and just time
travel while you watch any sporting event you want.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
You don't need to pay this amount to go watch.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
These or go to a sports bar. I told I
told you yesterday my brother's place. Best business they've done
in the month of June and human and they're fun like.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
It's a good time.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
That's the one thing and I've always said this the
one thing missing from Dodger Stadium, and they've done a
great job in kind of growing the outfield and having
different places for people to hang out, you know, the
the Leis Goo booth in the right field, the Medello
stuff they've got going.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
All of it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
The one thing they're missing is a place nearby that
you can go to like a Wrigley Field, like one
of these other places, to where maybe you can't get
into the game but you can be in the vicinity
of the game and really enjoy it. And I think
the World Cup has done that. I'm not paying whatever
these prices are to go watch a bunch of guys
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who I wouldn't know if they walked up to me
with a name tag.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
I'm the experience.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You're surrounded by these fanatical fans. They're unlike any fans
of any sports. I'm not to sland it and just
you just shared the story of your friends still remembers
nineteen ninety four branded But the tickets are free.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But that's but that again, that say hey man, it
was a great event, and him telling me like, you're
to see the fans and the way they were rallied
around it great event. But if I told him, hey,
nick man, that's going to cost you six grand to
go to that game, we said, no, I'm good man,
I'll go watch it at some place in Pasadena near
the Rose Ball.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I don't need to be at the actual event. I don't,
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
But I mean, you know, everybody has their own priorities
in life, and you know how they want to spend
their money.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
I'm always amazed.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I mean, it just seems like, you know, when we
talk about live sporting events, people just seem have bottomless
pits of money that didn't go anytime they won to
all these different events.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
But you would know how this works because you're you
know how sort of big events and venues and that
they're played at and how this stuff works. Are you
a little surprised that Sofi didn't get the final?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yes, I'm a little surprised, Tammy.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
If the Rosebull got the final, which we did in
nineteen ninety four, why did we not get there? I
don't know what met life throughout there money wise, but
it is very apparent that FIFA has no limits on
how much money they will take in on the World Cup.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
It has been unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
All right, coming up on the other side, we're gonna
get back to a little baseball in the all Star Game.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
How about Mike Trout, Love me Mike Trout?
Speaker 4 (36:32):
How about some Mike Trout And how much future does
he have left with the Angels. We're gonna get into that.
We're in for Petro some money today. Yeah it is heart,
knocks Hartman and knocks with you here on a five
seventy LA Sports
It's a Petrosen money show here on AM five seventy
LA Sports as I like to refer to it the
Blowtorch here in Southern California.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
He is Steve Hartman.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm Jonas Knox, a Little Heart Knox Edition in for
the guys here on AM five seventy, your home of
the back to back World Series champion Dodgers, and a
reminder the Dodgers do start the second half of the
season tomorrow right here, Dodgers on deck. Pregame at three o'clock,
first pitch at four to five. Now, Steve, I, you know,
(00:34):
sometimes in today's climate, when you see stories pop up,
I have to kind of take a step back and go,
all right, is it either a fake account?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
AI Like some of the stuff that goes on now
that we have video of just seems a.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Little bit outlandish.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I didn't realize that the Jerry Rice altercation at the
golf tournament up in Lake Tahoe was a real thing
that actually happened, that he got somebody was heckling him
and instead.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Of just wearing it, Jerry's at the point in.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
His life where he's like, f this, I got a
callaway nine iron or whatever. I got in my hand
and I'm going to go approach this guy and ran
down to try and get a hold of him. Your guy,
Jerry Rice, a little bit volatile at a golf tournament.
Have a cocktail, dude, Relax.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
So this golf tournament. I covered this golf tournament for
a number of years. I was actually there the second
year they ever had the golf tournament, which was nineteen
ninety one, and then I ended up doing it for
six right years ten years later, from two thousand and
one to two thousand and six. So Jerry Rice's last
year playing in the NFL was two thousand and four,
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and he was always part of this golf tournament. Obviously,
all these years later, he's stills up there. So I
never get this. So we have a hotel room where
I was staying in the hotel rooms up there in
Lake Tahoe, and I'm leaving my hotel room to go
out to the golf course. And as I I approached
the door to leave my room, I hear like the
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like like the the ground is shaky okay outside my door,
And I'm like, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Sound like an emergency? I just I get here.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
So I immediately opened the door and I look to
my right and down at the end of this hallway
is Jerry Rice.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
And I'm looking at him like, are you okay? I mean,
I knew who.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
He was, obviously he didn't know who I was, but
I'm just like, you know, and he's like, yeah, I'm
just doing my wind sprints. I'm like, what, I thought
you were retired? He goes, no, I'm going to have
a workout with the Broncos. I think I can still play.
And he's like talking to me, like literally, and then
as as he had, he was running sprints up and down.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
The hallway at the hotel.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
At the hotel, I was like, dude, if I do
you what to say? Like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
By the way, how long was he with the Broncos? Forty?
He make it to the season? Oh, he did it.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
He went to training. I guess he had a workout.
He never played. He never played that season. The last
team he played with was the Seahawks. Yeah, after got
let go by the Raiders, and you know, he actually
stuck for seconds. I told him, you know, I worked
for the Raiders way back in the day. Obviously when
he was I was actually there on draft day when
the forty nine ers jumped us in the draft.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
To take Jerry Rice. I'll never forget.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Everyone was like, gee, you know with the Raiders interested
in Jerry Rice. I'm like, no, he runs a four
six forty.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
No, we're not interested in him. We took a different guy.
But this guy is.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
He is very intense. There is a reason why he is.
In the opinion of many people. We always talk about
the goat. You talk about guy, a guy who has records.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
That will never be broken. That is Jerry Rice. No
one is ever gonna come close to his all time
receiving records, never ever, ever, ever.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Look, man, and I get it. You deal with a heckler.
The guy's a clown. He had probably been drinking a
little bit, not Jerry, the other guy. If Jerry was drinking,
he wouldn't have ran after the guy. He'd just be
more a little bit more relaxed. But it's like, dude,
this is my problem with golf tournaments.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You have the Waste Management Open in Phoenix where anything goes,
I mean anything goes. They're throwing you know, bras ball gags,
you name it, on the course. They're like anything you
want to happen at the waist Management opened in Phoenix
is fine. This whole idea that, hey man, it's golf,
got a hush hush, gotta.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Keep it down over there. Jerry should be used to this.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
He played at Candlestick all those years he played at
the coliseum, like, he's played in some pretty rough environments
with some pretty rough people. The idea that some goofball
running around yelling at athletes at a golf tournament would
set him off to where he's got to run after
the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And be like, which one, which one? What are we
doing here? Do you know what.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Lisorti used to say about golf. He goes, let me
get this straight. These guys are standing over a ball
that's not moving, okay, just sitting on the ground, and
they're trying to hit this ball, you know, like on
a green or off the tee or wherever.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
In baseball.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I'm standing at the plate and I got a guy
thrown one hundred miles an hour, or he's got a
you know, a sinker that drops four feet.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I got people.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Screaming at my ear, strike out, you bum, And I
got to focus on.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Trying to hit this moving.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Baseball, but you got to look out for the golfers,
like you got to think. And by the way, forty
to sixty thousand people at Dodger Stadium is a little
bit more than what was there, like two to three
hundred people maybe at this golf.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
The golfers will tell you it's that sudden in his section.
It's that sudden noise. So if it is absolutely silent
and you're just standing there, you know, that was the
thing about Tiger.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
You know, Tiger was like one of.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
The first named golfers that would curse, you know, because
the you know, the mic was always on Tiger and
he would people.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Like, oh, you can't say that. He's like, no, I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Gonna say that.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I'm trying to hit the stupid ball, and you're so
golfer's argument it is, it's not the if you have
that constant noise, which obviously every other sport has, you know,
then it's sort of tuned out. It's the idea of
going from complete silence and you're standing and focused on
that shot.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
All of a sudden, that sudden you know somebody yelling out, sid.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Hey, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
My son and I frequent golf and stuff, okay in Ventura,
and look, he doesn't give a rip that I'm in
my back swing, like he's going to either hit my
ball or he's going to bump into me, or he's
gonna yell something, and it's probably gonna be in Spanish, which.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Is really gonna throw me off.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So this whole idea that Jerry Rice is going to
get uptight about a guy yelling at him, I don't
get it. Here's the other place where I don't understand.
And I didn't realize that this was actually the case.
Bowling events, Professional bowling events. So Brady Quinn told me
a story that Rob Stone was calling a PBA event
in Florida, and so it was not far from where
Brady was living at the time, so he him and
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his daughters and his wife wanted to go see Rob Stone.
They worked together on Big Noon Kickoff. They made signs,
they made all this stuff to show up and we're like, yeah,
we're gonna cheer on rub and they were told no, no,
you got to keep it quiet, like you got to
it's a it's a bullying you gotta keep it quiet.
It's like really like it's a bowling alley and it's
not like it's a partially open bowling alley because it's
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not open to the public that day. But we got
to keep it quiet. I just think for for these
guys that are so worried about a little bit of
crowd noise, like a mouse cuts a fart three rows
up and they've got to throw their club for them
to worry about that. To Tomylasorda's point to go be
go go stand in there. Yeah, when a guy's throwing
ninety eight at your eyebrows and you've got people screaming
(07:48):
because they've been drinking since the parking lot before the game,
and they tell me something.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Yeah, I don't I got sort of was like, I
don't get it. I don't get it. The ball's not moving.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
It's just wherever you're hitting the ball, it just sitting
there all It's not like your hidio moving by the
balls is sitting there and you got to hit the.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Ball by the way.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I've seen uh so, I've interviewed Jerry Rice could not
have been nicer. I've seen him, I think once in
person outside of a media event and can't even make
this up. He was at I'm pretty sure it was
Burbank Airport. It might have been lax, but he was
at Burbank Airport getting his shoes shined on one of
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those platforms where you sit ups.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Sit up and somebody shines your shoes. And every time
I walk by those, I'm like, there's no way anybody
uses those.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
There's no way anybody uses those except for Jerry.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
He is the ticket.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
He was so notorious as a player. Everything was perfect.
That's Jerry Rice, right, He is.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
A When we say perfectionists, that.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Can be a little overused cliche. Jerry Rice is that.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And again, if you're doing something to disrupt his stride
for perfection, yes, even on the golf course, you will
face the wrath.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
And that's exactly what hey, dude, you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Jerry the greatest of all time. He is Steve Hartman.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I'm Jonas Knox here on AM five seventy l a
Sports Little Heart Knox Edition, filling in for Petro some
money on this Thursday. Up next, we're gonna get to
the bottom of this.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Who broke up with? Who was it Lebron? Was it
the Lakers? The answer is yours.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Next, Petro send money with La Sports.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
No, it's a Petro's Money Show Here on AM five
(10:15):
to seventy LA Sports Steve Hartman Jonas Knox in for
the guys here a little Hard Knocks edition, by the way,
coming up in a little over fifteen minutes from now.
We are going to tell you about how things are
a little pricey in the world of sports. But don't worry,
somebody kind of has your back. That'll be yours again
fifteen minutes from now. Right now, though, he is the
great Alan Sleie with joining us here on AM five seventy,
(10:37):
the host of Hoops Talk on YouTube and you can
hear it on the iHeartRadio app. Alan never a dull moment.
Did you think you were gonna get a little bit
of a break or is the NBA off season just
been a roaring success for you and yours?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Well, if you know Lebron hits free agency, I think
we could excit. I don't know what's gonna come first,
if his decision or the start of NFL full So
it's neck to neck right now. It can go either way,
but I'll take the content. I'm sure you guys are
enjoying the content as well.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, I mean, Steve's fired up about having to talk
Lebron for the next company.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, I mean, Alan, look, we need to separate fact
from fiction here. I mean this whole thing that Rich
Paul has been orchestrating. The best was I actually did
this on TV the other day. I guess they had
to run a story during the week that he was
getting like voice messages, and I'm thinking, sure, yeah, like
you're getting voice messages, like, let me get this straight.
So a GM in the NBA is calling you about
maybe making a deal, you know, to sign Lebron James,
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and you good put him on voicemail like that.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
None of this makes sense.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
The only thing that has ever made sense to me
is the fact that he wants to finish his career
with the Cavaliers where it all started. They're trying to
work a deal, trying to leverage as much money as
they can get out of the Calves, maybe find a
way to bring Browny from the Lakers into a Calves uniform.
All the other stuff, to me is pure fantasy land.
So I want to hear it from someone far closer
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to the situation than I am.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
That is Alan Sleewah.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Do you believe there's any legitimacy to the Sixers, or
the Heat or the multitude of teams. According to rich Ball,
everyone wants Lebron James. Every player, every general manager, every
coach is just begging, begging to get Lebron James to
sign with them. I maintain there's only one team that
and I don't even know if they're interested, and that's
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the cast.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
But tell us the truth.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Where are we right now legitimately in terms of the
future of Lebron James in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Well, I'll say this, I'll say that, Yeah, I think
there's you know, obviously the likelihood of him going to
one of these other teams maybe not as high, But
I don't think it was crazy to think that Ken
Draymond and Steph and Steve Kerr convince him to just
take a look and see what the Warriors are doing
and see if there's a way that Jimmy Butler gets healthy.
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That'd be pretty fun. Or if the Philadelphia seventy sixers
come knocking and say, look, look at your team with
the Cavs, look at our team here in Philly. Which
one would you think would give you more opportunity to
compete in the Eastern Conference. Philly is always going to
have the path, and I think it makes the most
sense from a He could end his career there and
he could eventually get his retirement tour there, and he
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won an NBA championship with the Cleveland Cavaliers. But I
don't think it's absurd for some of these other teams
to have a shot or to at least pitch Lebron.
I mean, the whole thing. It's before free agency started.
It was the day before free agency started, Sham's came
out with a tweet basically saying he's not coming back
to the Lakers. Here we are two and a half
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weeks later and he still has yet to make a decision.
And what was he teasing today? He was doing that
Fanatics thing with and he's doing the Mind the Game
podcast with Tyrus Alberry. He's like, I'm just not ready
to make a decision yet. The whole thing is absurd.
Of course, it's just to grab attention, and we know
how much and Rich Paul loved their attention at the
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same time, we're the ones talking about it. So I
don't know, am I the idiot? I've been talking about
it and I think we've all kind of consumed it.
But is it annoying, of course it is.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Well. I mean, if Team USA wouldn't have crapped down
their leg and Seattle against Belgium, we could be talking
about that.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So I blame them.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I put all the blame on US Soccer for putting
in this point to where we've got to go down
the Lebron decision yet again. I am curious though, for
people you've talked to or at least in your mind,
who broke up with who, because it was Lebron and
them that came out with the initial statement that he
would be continue his career, just.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Not with the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
But was this really did they do him a solid
and say, look, we'll let you release the news first,
but we're out on this whole thing together.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I mean, I think down the road maybe we'll get
more details. And both sides have been very professional about it.
But didn't the Lakers kind of give their indication a
year ago when they didn't give Lebron that they didn't
give him a one plus one. It was the first
time Lebron and I don't know how many years was
going to become an unrestricted free agent, and I think
the Lakers were kind of prepared for that, I think
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they understood that eventually, if last year's run was going
to be their final one with Lebron, what was it
going to look like. Were they really going to be
competing in the Western Conference to or competing for an
NBA championship? And I think it was apparent. I mean,
if you brought Lebron back, does it get them any closer?
And I'm not telling you that they'll be closer with
the new roster that they have, but I do think
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that I think ultimately, I thought the Lakers gave indications
a year ago when they didn't allow Lebron to hold
the keys anymore, and it wasn't just going to be
like it has been for Lebron James kind of dictating
with every franchise that he's been So I think both
sides approached it very professional, But I would look a
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little bit more into the details of what happened a
year ago to tell a little bit more of the story.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, as far as the Laker organization is concerned, obviously
with the Guggenheim Group, Mark Walter and company learning a
new game because obviously with the Dodgers of Major League Baseball,
they don't have to deal with a salary cap.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
So this is a process.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Obviously, Rob Polink is still there, but they're adding to
their management team, and you know, my guess is they're
learning on the fly right now how to deal with
this salary cap and really trying to squeeze every cent
out of it. So that being said, right now, we
know what they did in less than twenty four hours
after Lebron you know, said it's.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Time to move on. But where are they going next?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I mean, you know, Jonas and I were talking about
this yesterday where we were saying, you know, this is
the first step.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
But do you get a sense.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Right now that they're just sort of feeling their way
through this and then trying to build over the next
couple of years what they hope plan on having a
championship level team.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I think they're doing what any new ownership does when
they come in, or at least good ownership. Is I
kind of assess internally, all right, what's it look like.
Do they have to make changes right away? Not necessarily
eventually they started making changes internally, I think that they
have to be looking at where there is no salary cap.
Is the front office, all right, how can we add
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to what we already have. I'm sure they're looking at all, right,
who would be the top five president of basketball operations
around the NBA. Would you put Plank on that list?
I wouldn't. I think most people wouldn't. So I think
they're certainly assessing what Rob Polanka is doing on a
day to day basis. But it is a process, and
I think that you know, and I don't think Laker
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fans are delusional on this side. And maybe I'm wrong
on this. I think they do know that it's going
to take a second. And you know, the Oklahoma City
th Under weren't built overnight. Neither were the San Antonio Spurs.
I mean, technically you drafted Wemby and maybe maybe that's
a different maybe that's not the best example. But in
today's NBA, you have Luka Dancic, you have one of
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the top five players in the NBA. You got to
build around him. You have to be very strategic of
what you do with every single position that you have
out there. But I think equally as important, if not
more important, you've got to make sure that the front
office and your scouting and your development and your analytics team,
they don't have a salary cap in that department. So
I think as much as we all want to see
they signed this player, they signed that player, I would
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pay just as much attention to what are they doing
with their front office.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Allen Sleewood joining us here on AM five to seventy
LA Sports Steve Hartman, Jonas Knox in for Petro some money.
So in saying that, have they closed the gap at
all in the Western Conference? Or is this a situation
where they're taking one step back to take two steps
forward down the road.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, I don't think they've closed the gap, but I
really think it's also incredibly tough to If you told
me what I have rather seen the Lakers run it
back with Ruley and Marcus Smart and Luke Kennard and
Lebron and Jackson Hayes and DeAndre Ayten or take the
route that they took. I'd rather see this route that
they're taking because I think there's more question marks about
the ceiling is and what the bottom is. But I
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do think it's an organization that look like they have
a plan around building you know, obviously around Luka Doncic,
but I don't know what that's going to translate to
Can I sit here and confidently tell you that the
squad that they put together is top three in the West.
I'm not sure if they're going to be top three.
I think they're going to be one of the toughest
teams to figure out coming into the season because they
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made so many drastic changes. Walker Kessler played five games
last year. Austin Reeves now is going to have a
completely different The expectations Foster, He's going to be completely
different than it was in the past. I mean, hell,
this last playoff run, he was making fourteen to fifteen
million dollars and people were already all over him. What
is it going to be like if he plays like
that and he's making forty million a year. So I
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think it's going to be really really tough to kind
of gauge what the Lakers are today. But just based
off of who they lost, the vets that they had on,
I think this is a take a step back, try
to take a step forward in the near future.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Totally unrelated to the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
What is your read on what's happening with the Kawhi
Leonards situation right now? I mean, why is there in
this delay on this investigation that you know. I remember
Commissioner Silver was talking about this at the beginning of
June that they were close to a decision, and here
we are a month and a half later. Obviously a
trade has been made, at least on paper, but it
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won't go through until they come to some resolve on
this situation. And now they're investigating another level on this.
So what's happening? Is there any danger that this trade
will not actually happen?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I think it's a bad look for everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I know.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I don't know have to explain that to you guys.
It's a bad look for the NBA, it's a bad
look for the Clippers, it's a bad look for Kawhi.
I think it's natural to think. And I know Adam
Silver what he talked yesterday the day before. It's like, no,
you know, everything's fine. I mean, that's what he's going
to say. But I think it's it's more than fair
to look at the situation and say, wait a minute, here,
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is there something more that you know, we don't know about.
Can this actually be something that affects the uh, you know,
the organization, or it stops the trade from going through.
I think Toronto's trying to be incredibly responsible. But at
the same time, you know, they kind of everything was
already on the table when they did agree to a deal,
so the whole thing seems a little funky. I've heard
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some people say, well, if they're making if, if we've
got to this point, maybe there's more there than we think.
I've heard Sean Sharania talk about nobody, you know, worst
case scenario. No, he doesn't think worst case scenario is
going to happen. But it's left more questions than it
has answers.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
It feels, and we were kind of mentioning this yesterday.
How many people would really care if it came out
that the Clippers had done you know, we're circumventing the
cap to bring Kawhi in. I almost look at it
as haven't they been through enough? Like can't we he
goes to Toronto. The Clippers, you know, are rebuilding and
going in a different direction. The idea that you're going
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to keep litigating this, you know, through this way, through
the media, through the reports over and over again. I
just don't know why they're the example the NBA wants
to make.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I would say this, I don't know if and again
we don't know what happens behind the scenes. But let's
just say hypothetically, this was their creative way of getting Kawhi,
and Kawhi comes to the Clippers and he doesn't go
to the Lakers or doesn't go to another team, I
think you have to I think you have to put
the hammer down. Now. Do I think the NBA is
going to do it? No, I don't, And I don't
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think this is a haven't the Clippers gone through enough?
I think this is more of a message around the
league that if you think that you can. You know,
one of the main reasons why I think the NBA
has had some of the success that they have. There's parody,
there's there's different champions every year, and you know, we'll
see what happens with baseball. But people a lot of
people look at baseball and say, hey, should they take
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a similar model to what the NBA, NFL and some
of these other leagues are doing. And you got a
team going rogue and saying, yeah, we're going to find
a creative way to pay Kawhi Leonard so that he
comes here. I think you have to set an example.
And if it is the Clippers and it is the
richest owner in all of sports in Steve Baumber and
this is what they get hit with. And I think
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they deserve every you know, everything that comes to them.
I think they would it would It's on them and
they would deserve it.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Getting back to Lebron for a moment here, Alan, Obviously,
last year was a very different year for Lebron for
the first time in his entire basketball life. And I
was telling Jonas yesterday the first time that I ever
heard the name Lebron James. I had Sonny Vacerro on
my show This is back in two thousand and I
asked him, you know, who's the best high school player
in the country.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
We had, you know, college recruiting going out at the time.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
He goes the best basketball high school is a ninth
grader out of Akron.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Ohio named Lebron James. And that was the first time
I heard the name.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
And ever since then, obviously he has been the dominant
force on any team played in with even though he's
obviously played with some great players over the course of
his career.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Last year was different.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
It wasn't his team, but then all of a sudden,
you know, with Luca getting heard and ar out, you know,
he took over and they beat Houston in that series.
Of course, people will commediately forget that Durant really was
out of that series, but nonetheless, he played well and
they won a playoff series.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
What exactly are you signing up for?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
In other words, whatever team does sign Lebron James at
this point of his career, is he a game changer?
Is he that last missing piece that could put the
Cavaliers or the Sixers or any other team over the
top and rain his NBA champions?
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Is he still that kind of player?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
And would he play a supporting role or does he
still have to be the top dog?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah? I mean, honestly, like, I don't really see if
I could sit here and tell you that the decision
is annoying, and how come Lebron takes this long? And
oh my gosh, this guy wants all the attention. I
could go down the list of all that stuff. But
is he still a legit, legit player that can put
you over the top. Absolutely? I mean, you know, they're
going up last year against the Houston Rockets. He was
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the best player in the series. They had no shot
against the Oklahoma City Thunder. I understand Luca wasn't playing
it is what it is. But you put him on
a team that's already established, and he could be the
fourth best player on that team or the third best
player on that team, and you're not asking him to
give you thirty minutes a night, and you're not asking
him to carry the team, and you're not asking him
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to play eighty two regular season games. Look, he's one
of the greatest to ever play the game, and it's
not even a question. Stylistically, he was a combination and
still is a combination of magic. And you take all
these different types of players Paul alone, and you put
him together, and that's Lebron. I absolutely still think if
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he's in the right situation, he's used properly, they pace him.
Why can't he be a difference maker in the postseason
he's in the Eastern Conference, Sure absolutely he can. And
I think that that's what kind of makes his situation
so fascinating because every single year over the last three
four years, we keep saying it's done, it's done, it's done,
it ain't done. And you know, who knows, maybe his
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twenty fourth year there'll be a huge drop off. But
he's doesn't give us the indication that.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I don't know why I would bet against Lebron in
that type of predicament.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Alan quickly before we let you go favorite and least
favorite Lakers move this offseason as what.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Look, you needed a real center. And I know Walker
Kesler's got a lot to prove, and I know the
Lakers gave up draft compensation for him. But seven foot
two rebounds plays defense, will be an anchor on the
defensive side. I think that's just kind of for me.
It's a no brainer. Getting Walker Kesler, I thought was
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so big least favorite move. Yeah, this is gonna sound
like I'm critical about the player, which I'm not. I
think Austin Reeves is a phenomenal player, but they're going
to be paying a lot of money for aud There's
gonna be a lot of pressure on Austin Reeves. So
I do think they had to bring him back. I
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don't think that that was I don't think they had
an option on that. Maybe actually no, maybe I'll shift
here a little bit. I think the Marcus Smart not
having Marcus Smart on the Lakers is going to hurt
the Lakers. And I don't think he signed for much
in Houston and I know the Lakers are taking more
of a younger approach, but not bringing Marcus Smart back.
I think we will have an effect on the Lakers.
I was a big fan of him on and off
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the floor.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
He's the host of Hoops Talk on YouTube and on
the iHeartRadio app. He's the great Alan slee We spend
in a few minutes with us here on a Thursday.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Alan, thanks so much, man. We'll do it again soon.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Thank you, boys, appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
There.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
He is the great Alan Sleeer with us here at
Steve Hartman and Jonas Knox in for Petro some money
here on AM five to seventy LA Sports and hey,
somebody's looking out for your well being. They know it's
getting pricey out there, kind of we'll tell you who it.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Is next.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Ahead.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
That's one.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Right to me, Patrol send money available on the free
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Now, all right, rolling along here on another very very
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busy Thursday in the sports world.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
I know that we don't have a full load.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Of games, and of course the Dodgers getting ready for
the weekend series against the Yankees, a great way to
open up the second half of the season. As far
as the Dodgers are concerned against their arch rivals, and
I've hated the Yankees my entire life, Jonas, So once again,
Steve Hartman, Jonas knocks in for petros and money here
on M five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Okay, Jonas, I.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Know that it's a little bit hard for some of
the listeners out there to relate to people like you
and I in this industry because we basically can get
pretty much a ticket for most sporting events that we
want to attend. We can credentials. You don't whoa whoa
whoa whoa. No, you got to talk to Scott, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I mean, first of all, you are a national Monday.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Through Friday superstar personality. You can pretty much go anywhere
you want, whenever you want to go.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Steve, I drive it six to coma. I'm not sure
you can get to where I.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Want to go.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Are we're talking about now?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I will say this, You're a luminary and a legend
and a Hall of famer in this town.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I'm some slappy with the rabbit chuck e cheese. Let's
not forget well.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I'll tell you where I can't go, and that is
World Cup. FIFA is an.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Operation that absolutely separates themselves.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Think about it.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
You can't call it so far right.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's La Stadium, stadium, was the Leattle Stadium.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I mean they would even allow the sponsors of these
stadiums to have their names uttered.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
In Foxboro where the Patriots play, they made them cover
up the sponsor on the back of the seats inside
the stadium, so it's almost like they had post it
notes covering up their sponsor and they were taking them
all off as the final game at Foxboro was being played.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
I had to go through literally a two month process
to get a credential that I never actually used. I
never attended any of the World Cup matches, but they
wanted me to go through the process and it was
so complicated.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
It was absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Reason don't I heard you can't take a lengthy videos
there and posted on our social media.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You can't like it.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
It was like a real they're really grinding your nuts
and advice.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
But that's the way FIFA operates, all right.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
So we're almost to the end of This's got this
championship match obviously between Spain and Argentina out at MetLife,
so I'm trying to think about this because I have
some producers over at KTLA that.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
Are really die hard soccer guys.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And the last match that was at Sofi Stadium. You know,
we were hoping it was going to be Spain US.
It ended up being Spain versus Belgium. He had already
attended one match, but at the last second he thought,
this is my last chance to go again.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
He spent thirteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
No, I'm out thirteen hundred.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I know the guy's not swimming in money.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Thirteen to ten a second match because it was the
World Cup to see Spain and Belgium.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Look, I know this.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
My brother, my oldest brother, Nick, told me a story
that he went to the ninety four World Cup. He
got free tickets Brazil Italy. That was the Bagio miss
over the goal that he still can't live down. He's
one of the greatest players of all time, but that's
almost like his Buckner moment, and he said it's one
of the greatest sporting events he's ever been to. Those
are free, so like that made some sense not paying
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thirteen hundred dollars or whatever it is to go watch
a bunch of players play, whose names I can't pronounce,
and I'm sorry, I'm not trying to friend like I'm
above it all.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I've paid a.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Hefty penny to go see certain games, but I just don't.
And this is what makes me laugh about like Arthur
Blank and the Falcon So Arthur Blank for Pulah don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
And Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
He's got this long standing tradition where the concession prices
are really low. It's almost like the Masters in Augusta
to where you can get, you know, a bag of
chips for three bucks, a hot dog for two fifty.
It's like it's it's a you know, completely different from
everywhere you go. The problem is it's sixty five hundred
dollars to get into the England Argentina game. So that like, listen,
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if I'm paying thirteen grand for two tickets to get
into a game, don't insult me by saying, oh, don't
worry about it. Here's a bag of rolled goals for
two fifty. I kiss my ass, like can I get
it for free? Like I don't want to shell out
two singles and two quarters so I can get a
bag of chips when I paid sixty five hundred dollars
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for nosebleeds Now.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Jonas, there's still time for you to be there on
Sunday at ment left. So the cheapest available resale tickets
right now are starting at about eight thousand.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Oh my god, that's the cheapest seat.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
In the house.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
The average is about eleven thousand per ticket. And by
the way, you could get a lower level midfield seat
for somewhere under two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, here's the part I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
The at home experience to watch sports now is better.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Than it's ever been.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
You literally have access to every angle, every everything. You
don't have to wait in a bathroom line. You can
go buy you know, a thirty pack and just time
travel while you watch any sporting event you want.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
You don't need to pay this amount to go watch.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
These or go to a sports bar. I told I
told you yesterday my brother's place. Best business they've done
in the month of June and human and they're fun like.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
It's a good time.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
That's the one thing and I've always said this the
one thing missing from Dodger Stadium, and they've done a
great job in kind of growing the outfield and having
different places for people to hang out, you know, the
the Leis Goo booth in the right field, the Medello
stuff they've got going.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
All of it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
The one thing they're missing is a place nearby that
you can go to like a Wrigley Field, like one
of these other places, to where maybe you can't get
into the game but you can be in the vicinity
of the game and really enjoy it. And I think
the World Cup has done that. I'm not paying whatever
these prices are to go watch a bunch of guys
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who I wouldn't know if they walked up to me
with a name tag.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
I'm the experience.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You're surrounded by these fanatical fans. They're unlike any fans
of any sports. I'm not to sland it and just
you just shared the story of your friends still remembers
nineteen ninety four branded But the tickets are free.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
But that's but that again, that say hey man, it
was a great event, and him telling me like, you're
to see the fans and the way they were rallied
around it great event. But if I told him, hey,
nick man, that's going to cost you six grand to
go to that game, we said, no, I'm good man,
I'll go watch it at some place in Pasadena near
the Rose Ball.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I don't need to be at the actual event. I don't,
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
But I mean, you know, everybody has their own priorities
in life, and you know how they want to spend
their money.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
I'm always amazed.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I mean, it just seems like, you know, when we
talk about live sporting events, people just seem have bottomless
pits of money that didn't go anytime they won to
all these different events.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
But you would know how this works because you're you
know how sort of big events and venues and that
they're played at and how this stuff works. Are you
a little surprised that Sofi didn't get the final?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yes, I'm a little surprised, Tammy.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
If the Rosebull got the final, which we did in
nineteen ninety four, why did we not get there? I
don't know what met life throughout there money wise, but
it is very apparent that FIFA has no limits on
how much money they will take in on the World Cup.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
It has been unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
All right, coming up on the other side, we're gonna
get back to a little baseball in the all Star Game.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
How about Mike Trout, Love me Mike Trout?
Speaker 4 (36:32):
How about some Mike Trout And how much future does
he have left with the Angels. We're gonna get into that.
We're in for Petro some money today. Yeah it is heart,
knocks Hartman and knocks with you here on a five
seventy LA Sports
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