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Speaker 4 (01:14):
Said about it, Matt, I mean you upset about the Clippers.
I mean they're playing better. I mean, I know there
was a lot of bitterness leading up into the vacation
and the twenty twenty five part of the NBA season
for the Clippers. I mean there was a lot of
sour feelings in your mouth.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
There were. But I feel a lot better about it now,
I'll be honest like that. That was just a I
just had a little bit of a hiccup there, like
a literal hiccup.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
The Clippers made you sick, you know, like you were
you disgusted.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
They used to when they were.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Able to stomach them a little more.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, you know, six and twenty one makes you sick.
But winning seven out of eight and playing, you know,
one of the three or four Marquis franchises, you know,
much like the back of the LA Times purchase clip
per season tickets and see the Knicks, the Bulls, the Celtics,
the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
You know, that was a different time. Okay, that was
before they had Kawhi Leonard and the Beard and Chris
Paul and Blake Griffin. Okay, Matt, it was it was
a different time.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Seems like, you know, seems like the row anyway. Clippers
Knicks Madison Square Garden four to thirty pre game three
thirty with Adam Auslin, see if they can win their
eighth out of nine and continue their assault on achieving
a five hundred mark before the All Star break.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
That is I mean, I said, before the end of
the season, but you're giving it to him before the
All Star break. Maybe they're gonna be five hundred. Man.
That kind of talk, that kind of salty sports talk,
that kind of guy talk, and nobody's been doing it
better than us for the last twenty years. That kind
of talk, I believe is gonna get people excited for
(02:51):
Adam Ouslin's pregame show coming up at three point thirty tonight.
But between then and now, it is Matt and I's
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Speaker 1 (03:12):
Hopeful music at noon, hopeful music at noon.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
We are hopeful in our ability to do that. It's
not easy. We make it look easy because we're great
sports talk experts, but it is not easy. So godspeed
to us. For the next two and a half hours,
we will have a top story of the day featuring
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Matt Muney Smith and maybe some hair brain scheme to
make money, which we have never made a dime, not
a dime in twenty years on any of one dime.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That's because no one's supported me. No follow through that
will follow through. If I had more support, could get
followed through. You know, it's like like localized venture capital,
you know, seed money. If you believe if they heard
me present the idea and you say, you know what
I'm in, that's a great idea we need to follow
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up on.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I'm a real influencer. I hold a lot of weight.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, I think when they see that both both parties
are on board and has the full force in support
of the Petros and Money show, we can lead.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Someone to get along. So, I mean, you know, if
we can't get along, they're saying, why would I give
these guys my millionaire? Right?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
How we going to get someone? Are we going to
get someone to stroke a check?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
You know? I mean somebody in our listener base has
just like somebody in the world of Arizona State and
the Valley of the Sun like their coach Kenny Dillingham said.
Somebody in the Petro said money listener Globe, which is
international on the iHeartRadio app. As you were pointing out
in the intro of the show, Matt, somebody's got to
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be able to stroke a check for thirty million in right,
Like somebody's gotta be able or not even that, like
twenty what's it gonna take for us to open the
Stickenstein restaurants.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Stickenstein, We could have purchased the property for less than
a million dollars. That's for those of.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
You international listeners and maybe not from the South Bay area.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
The city was less than a million dollars to purchase
the property.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
This was a famous bar in El Segundo that was
most famous when the Los Angeles Raiders under Al Davis
worked out of El Segundo in a facility and Bob
golic the famous Notre Dame, Not not Mike Golick or
the other the son who's on TV now on Twitter
and stuff, but Bob Golick famously threw a man through
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a window there and the front window. And Matt wanted
us to buy the Stickenstein or rent the stick at
least the Stickenstein and open a Petros and money themed
sports bar to where I'd be filling up marrying ketchup
bottles at the end of the night. And what was
the And now we had the Delta.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Now if we had opened that place up a it
would be a thriving business and be the land which
we had purchased, it'd be worth like fifteen million bucks
right now. We just needed someone to stroke a check
if we don't have her the land.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I mean, if we could have owned the land right
there on the on Sepulvito or a PC that that
might have been a horse of a different color, Matt.
But nobody, You're right, nobody's stepped up and just stroke
a check. And that's the problem. That's why Sam Levitt
is leaving Arizona State, their quarterback to greener pastures. Because
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nobody in the Valley of the Sun is inspired by
Kenny Dillingham. Though he is great, not as great as us,
but he's great. Nobody's gonna stroke a check for him.
Why won't anybody stroke a check for us? Now, in
Matt's that was a very old hair brain scheme, maybe
not that old, maybe four or five years old right
the Stickenstein. It was post COVID. I remember because I
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was like, right now, now you want to open a restaurant, and.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It's like, yes, right now is when we do it.
When everyone else is running away, we run two.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Then Matt's other, yeah, everybody else, we're like, we're buying,
We're buying, and uh yeah, we run into the fire,
we run into the chaos. Yeah we run. Yeah, We're
like first responders. And then Matt even became Instead of
just saying talking about a great scheme and trying to
inspire a rich listener to stroke a check, Matt got
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even more.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Detailed, specific, very specific.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
In twenty twenty five, where he insisted the recently ousted
Joey and Jesse Buss we could facilitate because.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Their new found hundreds of millions of.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Dollars because I eventually or or usually every year, eventually
end up calling a Wyoming game on television. Matt's idea
was that I facilitate, even though I've never met the
Wyoming athletic director, that I facilitate Wyoming football, which is
the alma mater of doctor Jerry Buss, and what some
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kind of meet up.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
With the bus like you say, hey, this is a
way for you to carry on your father's legacy and
really give double middle fingers to all the siblings for
selling when you didn't want to sell and getting you
booted out of the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And you could say, look what I've done with Wyoming football.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Right, you're the money man, much like that Cody guy
at Texas Tech turned the Red Raiders into a national
powerhouse in one off season. Through the nil portal, you
could make Laramie Wyoming the center of the college football universe.
Which they can happen in Bloomington, Indiana. Why can't it
happen in Laramie Wyoming is a.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Hell of a pitch, it really is, and it might
even work. However, I barely have an association with the
university other than calling their football game.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You walk in with Joey Buss's bank account. You're gonna
have a relationship, right.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I don't know why, But why do they need us? See,
Like Matt, thanks, because we're going to middleman this situation
and no one else has thought of it that somehow
the Bus brothers are going This is where it's a
real leap of faith that somehow the Bus Brothers are
going to turn around and give us a bunch of
money to open a Del Taco. And I don't know
why you want to open a restaurant Like I grew
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up lit Matt like thirty. I don't know how old
was I when the restaurant closed, like thirty five. You know,
I grew up for my dad had a restaurant since
before I was born, until I was in my mid thirties,
long into my radio and television career, whatever it is
I do here locally and beyond. My father owned a restaurant.
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It was a family owned business that we all worked at.
We're at each other's throats constantly. It was wild, it
was contentious. It was restaurant life that everybody that has
ever worked or lived in a restaurant knows. And you
want to throw hurl me back into it through a
Del Taco. Well, but you know the Del Tacos.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And that's the thing with the Del Tacos right now,
that was a separate Remember that was a separate hair
brain scheme.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Uh well, you tried to marry them together like ketchup
bottles at the end of the night, at the stickings
time when I'm going to be working late like a
coach and cheers wiping down the bar.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Right, that's right. The Del Taco idea came from Deltaco
selling out to a place called Taco Cabana or something along. Yeah,
I believe it was the the parent company of some
spot called Taco Cabana bought all the Del Tacos. Wasn't
sure what they were going to do with all the locations,
and the number of locations they got for the paid
price came out to about six hundred grand per location,
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and we were like, if we could buy a top
Del Taco for six hundred k and make it the
petros and money Del Taco talk about injecting life into
the franchise.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Here the pitch kids. You hear the pitches in there, right.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
How many people would days on air of being pitched
every day?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Nothing is ever We've not made a dime a dime,
not one of your elaborate international trips, because there's never
been a pure sponsorship for going to Sochi, going to Cutter,
going to South Africa for the World Cup. None of
this stuff has ever happened. We the Olympics have come
(11:21):
all the way back around to Los Angeles before you
and I have ever made any kind of trip the
super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Everything good ideas. Though these are good ideas, we just
need seed money, belief buying commitment, Like if we think
about it, if we said we'll we'll do a Petrosen
money show live from our del Taco at least once
a week, if not more, right, we're doing.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
To get over it.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
No chance, that's appointment, Like, hey, what are you doing today?
What am I doing today?
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Wiener Schnitzel and Bourbono Dower.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's that's part. That's part. The is weekend we get beer.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
We need a liquor license. That's gonna cost a lot
more out of the bus brothers pocket.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You know beer and wine.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Are we gonna serve buzzballs? We need a liquor license.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
No buzzballs. Well, although I think our buzzball's malt liquor,
I think they're just molt right. I don't think buzzballs
are our actual hard liquor. Means, yes, Tim, I was
at Deltaco.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I was at Deltaco last night, through the drive through
on Glen Oaks and Alameda and Burbank, and uh can
never get tired of it. Matt's right, once a week,
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Right, All right, look at this now, we got kateson.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Ask somebody to stroke a check and we'll figure out
a centrally located. See, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
When I need to find one of these really rich
people in this city to step up and stroke a check,
and I'll do everything I can to make you the
most famous person in the city.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Straight check man, Hey Kenny, you didn't make me. I
have plaque psoriasis and I stroked a check and you
weren't able to make me the most famous person the city.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Can We need to find one of these really rich
people in this city to step up and stroke a check,
and I'll do everything I can to make you the
most famous person in the city.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Famous person in the city. And you know, if you
want to be famous, will make you famous because you're
going to be the money man behind the petros and
money shows expanded portfolio of our media empire. But more importantly,
you're going to be given back to the people and
be given back to the community because we're gonna after.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You stroke that you have to stroke a check first, though.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You gotta stroke a check first, and then and we
have to have.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
A stroke a check ceremony where you hand us a
big giant check.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
See exactly right. And what person with a bag full
of cash doesn't want to be part of a ceremony
like that.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Now, I don't wand one of these really rich people
in this city to step up and stroke a check,
and I'll do everything I can to make you the
most famous person in the city.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Thirty million, I mean, stroke a check. What we need?
We need one person.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
We live in Phoenix, Arizona. You're telling me there's not
one person who can stroke a twenty million dollar check
right now.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Right now. Don't say Phoenix, Arizona like you're saying Monaco.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know, like you mean to tell me there's not
one person that can't stroke a twenty million dollar check.
Uh yeah, I'm telling you that, Kenny. There is not
one person, not.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
For the purposes that you're asking the person. We live
in Phoenix, Arizona.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
You're telling me there's not one person who can stroke
a twenty million dollar check right now.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
For one season of Arizona State football, I need twenty
million dollars.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I am dumbfounded by that. And you know what, man,
I don't want to bring up a lot of old ass.
I really don't know what are we doing at now? Well,
I had one idea years ago, in twenty nineteen, right,
and you might recognize the date is right before COVID hit.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yes, I do remember this.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
And this idea was laughed at. I got laughed out
of them. I was. I left in shame and disgrace.
I remember driving home not even listening to the radio
that day, right.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Anything, it's completely silence.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Silence, just listening to the engine. It's just my thoughts
of my Chevy and uh. I wanted balaklava sweet James
style Bolla clavas because I was inspired by a British
dancehall reggae tune can't see Me face Bola clava and
next thing, you know, and we could have mass produced those.
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And I asked that what if we get ba clava's
and given away, everybody's gonna want one, And Matt said,
that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's hot, People's
heads are gonna get hot. And then you look like
a thief.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
You know who wears these things? Besides thieves?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Everybody wears them now, yes, stand thieves And that there's
thieves everywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Exactly right, vultures there it is.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Cloa Ba La Cloma, then balla clova one conson we
could have like that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I've been a real I admitted, I admitted my fault.
I admitted, Yeah, that's a that's bad on me. And
that was actually something that.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
We could have gotten Sweet James to do, make balla
clavas and giving them out and then COVID hits and
everybody would have been lining up for our balla clavas.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
And but what did we get out of that, because
it seems like it was just a Sweet James gets.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
There would have been a couple of markets features.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
News features. I do mean it, but Tim Knmy gets
news features.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
You know it would have been big.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But God doesn't show for a hot dog day.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I mean, look, if we buy the Sticking Stet, I
would imagine there'd be a few news features in the
Low and Uh and the Del Taco.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And just like Petros and Money are trying to save
the Del restaurant, a staff, not just Wyoming football and
Wyoming football all we'll be here.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
We get a lot, Yeah, we get a lot of
run in Laramie.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You think Kenny Dillingham can make you the most famous
person in Phoenix, wait till you see what petros and
money are in Laramie.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, I could see that, But then I could see
our competitors, you know, and and other sports talk shows
and and even our enemies from within, like Ruggin and
Rodney being like, do you want to hear about Laramie
or do you want to hear about La Sports tune in?
You know what I'm saying, they could attack us.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
He go ahead, I want to hear about Laramie.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Like they used to attack us for singing.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Mason and Ireland be like, We're not going to sing,
don't worry, and it's like, f you, buddy, Hey, enjoy me.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
We're only here because we have.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
To clobo the clobo that was before all the riots
and all that stuff. I mean, we would have been
on the cutting edge of the beach.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
We could have if we could have cornered the market
on balaclava manufacturing, you know, like we have the inroads
to all the balaclavas being made in Vietnam.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
You know, they all say Sweet James on them. So
we got our branding right. And think of it, it's
not just the whole ninety one and ten freeway that's
festioned with Sweet James billboards now Antifa everywhere around the world.
You see him, Sweet James Bola clavas. It's advertising on
the news.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Average back of one of those Nissan trucks with a
machine gun driving through a desert with a Sweet James
Bola clov on. It's incredible, incredible advertising.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Shirtless guy at burning Man holding like a smoke signal, right,
pants on, Sweet James Bola Clava to become a big
thing like Von Dutch and you and you denied it
like Peter denied Jesus thrice at least, and when I
pushed for the Bolla Clava and played the Bolla Clava song,
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and I still I guess, Matt, since I'm bringing it up,
I suppose I still harbor some resentments.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Clearly, and again I don't harbor resentment. I just say,
moving forward, more of these. And I'm using the air
quotes right now. Hair brain schemes are going to come up.
It's just the way the show works. And I'd like
a little bit of support, well listen, because I think
if we had a little bit of support, one of
our deep pocketed listeners would have been like, hey, reach
(19:18):
out to the Del Taco guy. Let's see what we
can find.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
One of these really rich people in this city to
step up and stroke a check, and I'll do everything
I can to make you the most famous person in
the city.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Oh, we could even open up if somebody stroked a check,
we could open up Petros and Money West in Maui.
The studio in Maui, no doubt. Even though I believelities
are endless. My in laws sold their property out there,
so I would be home. I'd be homeless. I could
live in the studio. But somebody, but I'm saying, we've stroke.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
We have listeners that show up to every one of
our events. We have listeners that Pepper us with you
know the comings goings. Yeah, they're fraggle Rock. And it'd
be hard to imagine taking a check, but you know,
the check is still a check.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
To check, you'd take a check. You're saying you just
mentioned a listener that we used to call fraggle Rock,
a woman who used to run up on our show.
And I don't even know if she lived.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
So close to your face.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I saw her on TV during the season.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
She was a Yeah, she's a she's a Dodger season ticket.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Holder, and she has premium seats.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yeah, she's but she's deeply, deeply evasive or invasive, I
should say.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yes, righte evasive. She would just kind of get in
your face and start thumbing through your papers, looking in
your backpack.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Was nos in my backpack like a raccoon. And anyway,
and we hated her, like we literally like we didn't
even we weren't nice to her because we wanted her
to go away, like she was so upsetting to us. Right,
And you're saying you take her money, I'm saying, you
know that was money. You take Fragle Rock's money.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
That was someone I mean, you just mentioned her, right,
But my point is this, My point is here, someone
has obviously had immense wealth based on the seats that
she purchased every single year, which are probably somewhere in
the quarter of a million dollars per season range, and
her level of entitlement. Right, that's someone to be like, Hey,
(21:17):
I like these guys. I every time they're at Dodger Stadium.
I hang out with them for an hour and a half.
Imagine if I could open a del taco with them.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I'm gonna stroke a check.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'm gonna stroke the six hundred thousand dollars check.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Really rich people in this city to step up and
stroke a check, and I'll do everything I can to
make you the most famous person in the city.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I would say we have a better chance in La
than than than in Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
No question, We're gonna make you the most famous person
in LA. I mean, you're bigger than yeasy.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
No doubt, bigger than easy for sure. And Matt, I
gotta say, what if there's somebody out in Phoenix, because
we have listeners out there that are listening, that are
listening on the iHeart and they were just about to
stroke a check to Dillingham and they quarter turned pivot
to us and they stroked the check instead. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, twenty million dollars for one season of ASU football
versus seven hundred k for a lifetime of Petros and
money in Del Taco.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I would like an extra hundred thousand dollars host fee.
I think you should demand that too.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So eight nine hundred, eight hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Kate's and Ronnie already got pizza from Jonas Knox, so
they're fine.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, they're out.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
How'd that go?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
By the way?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
This morning, I uh to Jose and a cup of
pro or whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
They said some words I said, I didn't appreciate. I
didn't appreciate what was happening. I didn't appreciate not getting
any pizza.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Brady got something, of course, and what.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Jonas and he has a thing for the blowtorch people
behind the scenes, Ronnie and Kates the blue torch.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Was it a textosaur that said he got him a
thumb ring?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I mentioned the thumb ring and they were like, oh,
he hasn't had a thumb ring in a couple of years.
I was like, okay, after you guys.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Did he get his technical director or anything?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Oh? Yeah. She got mad because I said I called
him like an engineer and she was like, weird production
director sound engineers. I was like, yeah, okay, anyway, those
are the answers to your questions. Tim Danny Canal He's
gonna join us in the very next segment. Danny Canal
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and champion lines, along with a plethora of props. Nobody's
got it down like Danny Canal and it's great that
we have him scheduled because of the situation with Demon
Williams of watching, which is a perfect segue to the
chaos of modern college football. How are you, Danny. Great
to have you.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
I am fantastic. Petros. You know you could add another
illustrious Twitter interaction with me with Jackson Dart's dad, I
had a take on I was working with CBS Sports
and they posted a video and me saying, yeah, I
mean I just I said, I'm not sure or if
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he's the future, I still have my doubts, and his
dad quote he quote tweeted it. He must have gotten
tips from uh Schdor's brother because he told me that
he told me to quote bro eat a fat one.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
I know a.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Couple of pretty pretty fun interactions on social media here
with some family members of NFL quarterbacks. Don't I feel
like I'm usually a pretty nice pain guy, but apparently, well, look,
I guess.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
You know, how dare you try to be a how
dare you try to be a football analyst and answer
a football question now that makes you that that you
deserve a fat one right in your mouth?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I guess so, I guess.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
So that's the one of the landmines in uh in
the work that you've chosen and you do a wonderful
job at it, and people pay attention, and you got
to fight it out in the streets. But not like
they're going to fight it out in the courts between
LSU and you dubbed Danny. I mean, obviously, this kid
who's a talented quarterback, he can't go back and play
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in Seattle. But but what's going to happen here? A
lot of litigation, I guess.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Geez, yeah, the attorneys once again, they are going to
get a boatload of money from all these legal fees
that they're starting to accumulate. This is a complete mess,
And I mean college football has been a mess. We're
going on almost five years of the transfer portal and
NIL and the wild West and the messy environment that
we're in. But this really is the worst of it.
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And like, I don't have any no one would have
had a problem with anybody if Demon Williams after the
season was done, or when January tewod hit. If you
would have entered the transfer portal, everyone including myself and
you and others would have said, yeah, I get it,
you had a great season for Washington, but you want
to kind of test the waters. You can be a
free agent every year in college football, so sure, no problem.
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But when you sign on the dotted line to return
to Washington for the reports are four million dollars. Who
that's a ton of money. That's a ton of money
that you signed up for. And then to just back
away from that and say, yeah, I know I signed
on the dotted line, but I've got to do what's
best for me and my future. That's where I do
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think Jiman Williams and his agency and his family and
whoever's helping him make this decision are worthy of criticism. Now,
it is a product of the system that is a
complete mess. But this does seem like an immature decision
to make. Now, granted, a lot of these kids making
millions of dollars, they are young. But here's the problem
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that bothers me. And here's where you know, I have
no ties to Washington. I met Jetfish. I appreciate him,
I like him. They are completely screwed. Now now they're
going to try to scramble and find another quarterback. But
think about what they were doing their priorities this offseason.
It was all right, let's make sure we secure our quarterback,
you know. So they think they do that and that
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was on front and I know it doesn't feel like
a long time, but think about the amount of quarterbacks
that have signed that. Washington probably said, thanks, but no thanks,
We've got our guy.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
We're good.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
And now they're kind of in this game of musical chairs.
They're trying to get the next guy, but most of
the good ones are taken, or the tough tier quarterbacks
worth four or five million bucks, they're gone. So now
they're scrambling to try to make sure they've got a quarterback,
and it really just leaves them with the short end
of the sticks. They asked about the litigation, there is
another circumstance that unfolded. It didn't get a ton of
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conversation because it wasn't a quarterback making millions. But Xavier Lucas,
who is a defensive player for the Miami Hurricanes who
actually played a lot this year. Last year, he signed
a deal with Wisconsin. Again, it wasn't four million bucks.
It was, but it was probably good money. Wisconsin tried
to sue. I remember that I didn't see any income
of it, and nothing happened. He's still playing. I don't
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know if they were covered. Like, I don't even know
if it was about the money. It really is about
the principle, And to me, that's what I would be
suing for because, like you said, I don't know if
you want a player like that back, Like, how do
you force him to play for you if he doesn't
want to be there. But at some point are we
going to find out if these contracts are enforceable or not?
Because if they're not, why do we even have them
in place? Like it's all a complete joke when you
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look at how flimsy a lot of these contracts the
players are signing.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Not trying to make this a hot take, just in observation. Yeah,
it sucks in moments like this stink Danny, But like
the overall nil transfer portal and the spreading of the
wealth has pretty much led to what we have starting tomorrow, right,
I mean Miami versus Ole, miss in Indiana versus Oregon,
And I mean I love it. I don't know if
you love it. I think it's freaking fantastic. Is it really?
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Is it that simple? Is this all boiled down to Hey,
when there's no rules, guess who suffers cheaters? And now
the level is, the playing field is leveled.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I do love that.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
I love that we've kind of broken First of all,
we've broken the SEC's dominance because they were the ones
that were doing it under the table forever and most egregiously,
and that's why they had a stranglehold on the national championship.
So we've seen that monopoly kind of broken up, which
is a good thing. And I think you've seen a
lot of the talent spread throughout the country. The other
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thing that's been incredibly fun is when there were twelve teams,
and I think you could even make a case for
fifteen or sixteen teams that didn't get in, they could
have won the national championship. And now that we've got
the field, even once it started, we've seen upsets like
we've never seen before. Like we saw the Buckeyes, who
were a team that everybody you know. Before the Big
Ten Championship, people were asking would you take Ohio State
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or the field and it was like, well, they're not
that good, and people are still even asking the question
now about Indiana, I still think they're gettable. So I
think in both of these points, spreads are three and
a half. You know what that feels like to me.
NFL lines like where there's just a lot more parody.
So I agree with you money, I do think it
is one of those where it is much more level,
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the playing field is much more fair, the landscape. It
just desperately needs some structure because the NFL has a
ton of parody too, look at their playoffs. But it's
not impossible to formulate a roster, which it does feel
impossible to formulate a roster outside of the next eight months,
Like you can't plan. You can't have a two or
three or four year plan in college football.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
You just can't.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
It doesn't exist because there's so much roster fluctuation across
the board. But you make a great point. It does
provide for some incredible excitement and opens up the door
for programs like Vanderbilt, Indiana, Arizona State be like programs
that never got into the college football playoff or really, really,
we're in the top ten to finish the season. Now
all of a sudden, they're playing for championships, which is great.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
I don't know how much attention you're paying, Danny, but
I'll take a swipe at it. Because this guy got
hired from JMU, Bob Chesney, and he's over at UCLA,
and he's in the portal, and he's at the Rose
Bowl out shaking hands and smiling and kissing babies, and
he's brought over a bunch of JMU guys, just like
Signetti did when he went over to Indiana from JMU.
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He staffed some southern California coaches, kept a couple of
guys that were popular on the staff, finally got rid
of Jerry Neuheisel. Is this guy building? I'm not saying
UCLA is going to be like Indiana, but can we
expect Ucla? I mean, this guy seems like he knows
what he's doing, and it's been a while since we've
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had that here in LA. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
I mean, it's got to be better than the Sean
Foster era, right, I mean, that was a little bit
of a disaster, you know, to start from. But I
do think when Chip Kelly decided to leave to take
an offensive coordinator position, it was a lot about UCLA's
lack of support in this space that we're talking about
in the nil landscape, and like, one thing that makes
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me a little bit nervous is you probably were able
to bring a lot of James Madison players that weren't
too expensive and like and I do think so that
was me the difference in year one in year two
for Indiana and Kirksinetti. Don't get me wrong, Kirkseyinetti is
a great football coach, but they're not winning just because
he's a great football coach. They're winning because they invested
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a ton of money in their roster. Like Fernando Mendoza
didn't come cheap from cal Pat Coogan, who was the
MVP of the Rose Bowl, did not come cheap from
Notre Dame. And I actually that was one of the
things I asked in Netti. I said, what do you
learn from year one to year two? And this was
like before the season, he said, we needed more dudes,
we need more dogs, and they went out and spent
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and got them. I mean, Mark Cuban just announced that
he's given again.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Like they have spent.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
They're one of the top spenders in college football, which
is kind of surprising without knowing If UCLA is that invested,
I think it'll be a step in the right direction.
But really, if you want to be a top tier,
like top twenty five team in college football, you do
have to spend like a top twenty five team in
college football. And I don't know the detail of just
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how much UCLA is doling out for an entire roster.
I know they've got some pieces, but I'll be really
curious to see, you know, how much are they spending
in totality, because you do really you need you need
to spend pretty you know, it's an expensive sport to
keep up with the Joneses.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You uh, you mentioned Indiana, they're the favorites. Miami is
second at eleven to four, Indiana at five to four
right now, that's courtesy of bet online. When it comes
to Miami, Look, they might not have got in. Right
if BUYU wins, maybe Miami isn't even in this playoff
in terms of the way that they're built, what they're doing.
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I'm going to try to put two questions into one here, Danny.
How much of them not being included and Notre Dame
getting excluded is the fallacy that the SEC should still
have all of these teams in there when they're getting
their d's kicked in year after year. I think they're
three and seven now the last three years in the
playoffs against non I should have seven teams.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
You heard what the guys? Seven teams?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah? And do you think that, like if we have
a Miami Indiana Final and it is as compelling as
we think it can be, do you think that might
be kind of that last straw that breaks their stranglehold
on We've got to put five teams or six teams
in this playoff because it's straight bs at this point.
They suck when they get to the playoffs the last
three years.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Yes, And you just tossed up the softball for me.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I mean, I will.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Knock this one out of the park for you because
I have been critical of the SEC for a long
long time. But I'll say this, they are not going
to go down quietly. They have the most powerful commissioner
in the sport in Greg Sankee. They have the most
power in college football because they have the contract with
the ESPN, and that does give them a lot of exposure.
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It gives them a lot of discussion. It helps them
dominate in the ap top twenty five preseason rankings. They
are the best at voting their conference. Think about and
I was thinking about this the other day, this precing all.
Look at all these tough schedules, how brutal the schedules are.
Oklahoma was one of those teams that was talked about
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having one of the most tough schedules in the entire country,
so that when Oklahoma goes ten and two, no one
blinked an eye. No one said, well, let's dive into
this and see who they really have beaten. While you
had teams like BYU were eleven and one, you had
Virginia from the ACC was ten and two, didn't even
sniff the top fifteen. They were way on the outside.
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And I know they had the opportunity because they would
have had to win the ACC and they choked and
missed that out on that opportunity, But they weren't even
close to being an out large bid and that wouldn't
have pounded the table for them. But the fact that
Oklahoma just gets a free pass essentially without really having
a signature win because a lot of their opponents that
were supposed to be good were garbage like that, to
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me is the biggest issue.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
That we have.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
But they are not going to go away quo. They
will once again pound the table and I will put
some of the onus on us and the media myself included.
When we make our preseason top twenty five, that's when
we have to remember that just because you've spent a
lot of money on the roster doesn't mean you just
get a top ten ranking. And yet it will happen.
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LSU is a good example. There's going to be so
much excitement around Lane Kiffen coming there and who he
gets in the portal. He's the portal king. They'll probably
start the season in the top fifteen, and yet their
program was trash this year. So then when they enter
next season, Oh, when you play LSU, oh it's a gauntlet.
What a tough game that is, you know, and if
you get beat by them, it doesn't hurt you at all.
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So it's like this cycle that just continues to move forward.
And I do hope that all of us look at
the way this season is unfolded, look at the last
few years, and there have been several big Big ten coaches.
Brett Deelam has been one that has really pointed out
it is not the conference that it used to be.
They do not have the dominant teams that they used
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to have. And yes they have some pretty good teams,
but they are not that much different. But even this season,
they got a lot of credit for regular season. That
was a big talking point. Oh, our strength of schedule.
Strength of schedule. When I look at some of those
teams that are playing, if they had such a tough
strength of schedule, why did they falter in the postseason?
And you know, why didn't Vanderbilt? Who everybody what a
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great story? Why did they lose to Iowa in the
bowl game? Iowa got no credit this year, and I
would every game they lost was by one possession, and
everybody's like, ah, it's just Iowa. You know that's not
a good win. But yet Vanderbilt gets beat by him
with full participation. They only had their tight end, whos
a good player. I don't know if he makes the difference,
but both teams were pretty evenly matched. Why don't they
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win that game? You know, there's a lot there's a
long list. There're two and seven this bowl season, but
then they have the out of well, nobody cares about
the bowl season. You can't live on that crap anymore
you've got, you know, because you had five players opt out.
A lot of teams have opt out, so then it's
really the majority of your roster is still there. Why
are you still a hot mess? Why can't you win
those games? It is becoming old, And I do think
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we're getting close to the inflection point. But I promise
you they are not going to stop pounding the table
saying how tough their schedule is every single year.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Well, listen to you say a lot of things here,
Danny Kanal, and maybe you did hit that answer out
of the park, but I will not sit here. Well
you tell me that ESPN is biased toward the SEC,
that is preposterous. I've never heard anything.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
You know, you know, Petrick, I've never said this, and
I would say, I'm gonna tweet it out here sometime soon,
so I might as well just be making it known
to the world. You want to talk about propaganda? Do
you realize if you work for the SEC network, you
will get reprimanded if you're too hard on the copp Like,
if you criticize a little bit too harshly, you'll get
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a scolding, you know, like, and but that's what they've
done so well is they've manipulated the conversation. And trust me,
a lot of the guys that played in the SEC
they have no problem talking about how tough it is.
But think about that mindset. So then when you cross
over and you're on ESPN and you're not on the
SEC network anymore, it's still in the back of your mind, like,
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I'd better not trash this team too hard because if
I do, it could infect my job status. You're telling
me that's not propaganda to prop up your conference. It's ridiculous,
But that's the lengths they've gone to to make sure
the perception of the SEC is godlike, like, oh and
there's the SEC and everybody else, when the Big ten
has already proven that they're right on par and I
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think the ACC and Big twelve aren't that far behind,
but they have been just look like they've been left
behind like another division, which is killing those conferences and
why they're quickly becoming one big leagues.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
The Great Danny Canal, Nobody's better, nobody makes more sense,
Nobody pisses people off more at Danny Canal. Courtesy of
bet Online. Danny, thank you so much, and Happy New Year.
And enjoy the playoff. Next time some crazy thing happens
in like three days, we'll call you back.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
You guys are awesome. I'm gonna go look in my
Christmas cards.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Is I can't.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
I don't have one from Greig.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (42:05):
I'm still looking.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
You know. That's the thing. You know, he wants you
to eat a fat one too.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
You have a fat one even you know you might
have not.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Worked at the SEC network, but he still has your number.
You know he'll go after you.
Speaker 6 (42:19):
That's that's right.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
We'll see you boy by day.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Thanks Danny Well.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
I enjoyed that conversation. I believe you did too, Matt.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
They eat a fat one. I guess I ran on
this young man's dad. Hey, Paul eat a fat one.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Straight An attacked him too. He's skin You've got a
contract after you played good a couple of games. It's like, okay, sorry, geez,
sorry that I'm a football analyst and somebody asked me
a football question.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Is Jackson Dart Mormon his family?
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Are they?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Do you allowed to say that?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I think that one could be anything?
Speaker 4 (42:57):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
You know a Jack Morman, Yeah, fat one could be
a fat crumble cookie, you know.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Good point. Good point, that's very Utah centric. Matt right,
it's good stuff. Yeah, you know we'll be back with
mar Petros and money some reaction. Oh we have what
are the headlines? And more great sports talks still to come.
That was Danny Canal from Ben Online.
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That's what we do.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
I have to say, Matt, I just I just heard
Rogan and very awkwardly recorded Rogan and Rodney Attorney commercial
with very you know, crumpled sound and awkward advert Yeah,
the things we've been complaining about for years. And I
looked at the time when I remembered you mentioning the
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flex alert just then too, and I remember something. I
think that's my favorite thing you've said all year so
far when we are talking about Mason and Ireland, is
enjoy the midday Losers, and.
Speaker 7 (45:21):
We're on right now in the midday. Hey, we are
just house sitting.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
We have been passed. This is not our regularly scheduled spot.
Speaker 4 (45:39):
We would never eat here.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
If we weren't so damn good at what we do,
we wouldn't be we'd have a half hour show to it.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
That's right, Matt, You're right. We're victims of our.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Own exactly right. It's exactly right. Why are we here?
Because we're so goddamn good at what we do? That's why?
Hey today, why are you? There? Were those guys on
an afternoon drive?
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Were those guys on at one o'clock saying enjoy the
midday losing?
Speaker 2 (46:10):
And by the way, if we were offered mid days
in our older age, we'd probably take it.
Speaker 4 (46:16):
You know.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Actually kind of sounds pretty good there.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
That show is stale. Those guys sound old. I got
a text for you real quick. This says, brought to
you by.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Fine, brought to you by your so called Toyota dealers.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
We make it easy, riots, face coverings, singing, Laramie and Tifa.
I didn't have those five things on my opening segment
bingo car today, Pee, the bus family would be fools
not to break you guys off a few million dollars.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Exactly exactly, and we're not asking them just to hand
it over. We were idea men. We want to turn
their millions into millions more. We want to turn their
lack of purpose in the sporting world into something fulfilling,
a legacy builder, if you will.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
That's us. That's a real quick Matt. I do have
one of the headlines, and.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
What should the headline be? Today sports? That's all we
think about.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Who's the yelbow story nobody's talking about.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
You know, I'm not a racist. He's a bad headline.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
What are the headlines?
Speaker 4 (47:21):
The headlines in this case are NFL dating related, Matt.
We don't just talk about Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift.
We try to cover everything. We covered Alex Earl and
Tom Brady and Brown was a big one. Cooper de Gene,
who I noticed when I was in Iowa doing a game,
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and I was like, good lord, who is this Cooper
Gene doing an Iowa game and the white corner is
dating a woman? Now, I don't know the hell the
w Yeah, he's great. I don't know, takeover games in college.
I was like, good lord, who's the white guy. We
gott to look him up at halftime.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
But it says he is white guy, not as who
he is.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
Uh, where's he from?
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (48:11):
He is dating now. I don't follow like which is
like the Midwest soap opera of today, which is like
the WWE. A lot of people are into it. We're
macho man ted Dbiassi people. We don't pay attention to
modern wrestling. It's fair to say none of us, not
Kate's no, not Ronnie even not you.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
We're grown men, yes.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
But there's a that doesn't. It's not usually a barrier.
There's a lot of grown men that are into this stuff.
This chick, Nikki.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
Bella, oh yeah, one of the Bella twins.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
She's forty four. And the jean is riding that horse
right now with no saddle on a beach. The Jean's
like ten years old.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, she's it's gotta be twenty years older than him.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
Yeah, and he is just they're not dating dating, I
mean they're dating, they're not you know, he's anyway, he's
climbing on that horse. And before that she dated he's
only twenty two, so she's twice his age literally. And
before that she was dating or married to a Dancing
with the Stars dancer, one of those Russian guys with
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a hog.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Oh yeah, they got hogs.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
Oh, come on, he wears those tight pants.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
I would assume like Cooper de Jean casually dating. They say, well,
he was like a ten year old kid, because I
remember the Bella Twins were big fantasy football players and
they used to come on our fantasy football show on
NFL Network.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Oh so you know this chick, Yeah, look at you, Matt,
look at you. And I feel old for her though.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
But like Cooper de gen would have been like an
eight year old when she because you know, he's what'd
you say he is?
Speaker 4 (49:54):
He's twenty he's twenty two years old.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, I mean I'm talking about they were on the
show like twelve years ago.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
She's enjoying life and very single, but she's enjoying riding
the the white Corner train. Oh yeah, I mean you
remember when Seahorned, the other white Corner was dating Angie Harmon,
So I do remember that you're a white or they
were married. So if you're a white corner, you're very
(50:23):
likely to hook up with a hot chick one of
the Bella Twins. That would be the moral of the story.
Maybe not one of the bellatwins. But some big cougar
horse is going to come around asking you to ride
it with no satellite beach, like the.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Black Stallion or the Black Widow.
Speaker 4 (50:45):
That Peter the little Asian chick. Yeah, we'll be back.
I think we got every reference we possibly could. And
at the first hour that of Petros and Muddy Obscurity.
We'll do the word number song of the day. Next
we'll have a top story. We'll do the Dead and Alive.
We'll overlap a little under the three o'clock hour and
(51:07):
that it's good night, Irene. Stay with us.