April 8, 2026 • 34 mins
The guys talk Lakers and how they are limping into the playoffs and the need for LeBron to elevate his game again. Former Dodgers great Ron Cey on the passing his friend and former teammate Davey Lopes. Dead and Alive Guy Birthday of the Day.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
That's that's not cool?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
No, no, okay?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Sucking down at nine and.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
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Speaker 3 (00:46):
How about that? Colin ye?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Petrosen Money five seventy eight Sports Live everywhere on the
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We'll have Dodgers Rangers Friday off day tomorrow. Steve Hartman. Yes,
it's here in place of pen By that still got
a little less than an hour.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I know you love hearing that, don't you.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I do. I have your conversations.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I want to ask you something because you are mister Laker.
Now we do have Ron calling I know is going
to be okay. Can I just get a quick thing
here on last night? I just want to get your
thoughts fifty Well, I look, I mean they played their
G League team. But anyway, Mark Walters and Guggenheim done
a phenomenal job of the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
They know how to wander.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
I mean with the Dodgers, they and they will with
the Lakers because they I know. It's a different dynamic
with this salary cap and everything.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
In the NBA, but lottery.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
This this is a company that understands how to build
a successful organization.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And this is no knock on the Bus family.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Look, I love Genie and I you know I have
nothing against the Bus Family.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Not worth. No, it's a different deal.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
So but are you are you a believer that we
are going to see sweeping changes after this year? I mean,
obviously it's building about Luca. How do you think it's
going to play out going into next season?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So I I did stories like the last I don't know,
a couple days or prior to the injuries, where I said,
oh I can see probably last two weeks I should say.
I was like, I know, where this is going. I
can figure. I see what's happening. Lebron does not want
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to leave. He recognizes that Mark Walter is not effing around,
and he's probably going to kick his ass out of
town because he doesn't need this guy poisoning the well
with his true superstar Luka Doncic and he takes the
back seat. No, I'm just filling in the cracks. And
look how good we are. And now we're in the
three seed and Luca's in the MVP conversation Sea boss.
(02:52):
This is going to work. Keep me around for a
couple more years at forty per and he can retire
a Laker, which is what he probably wants. If you
want a farewell tour, you'd want it in a Laker jersey,
not you know.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, I mean Cleveland would be the only other.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Certainly that would be the only other option. And they're
good enough where they could challenge for a championship, But
I don't know if they want that. Do you really
want Lebron?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
I think Cleveland was approached before the season. You remember
when he had the sciatica. Yes, I was suspicious about
that one. That was I think they were trying to
buy time see if they could get a deal done.
I don't think the Cavs are interesting.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And so I think he recognized that and that's why
they So my point where I'm getting with this because
I know we're so we're not going to get the
word number saw. So what I believed was Okay, if
they can make a run to the conference finals, he
can sell this idea, he can sell bring me back.
It's been another year. We'll find some other pieces. I
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don't need fifty three million bucks, give me, give me
thirty million bucks a year or something left forty million
bucks a year, which to I would say, no, I
don't I don't need. No one else is going to
pay you that, So why am I? But But now
that it's falling apart, and now that they're putting Brownie
out there and he's being post is not an NBA player,
I think they're just gonna cut it.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
And I think they're going to put a price tag
to Austin Reeves and they're gonna say this is this
is our offer.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, I mean I think Austin.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And he only played fifty one games this year.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Money, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
The injuries are an issue. Injuries with Luca are an issue. Uh,
it's But at the same time, I do think I
do think having another ball handler, someone Cap and he's
a hell I mean, he can really see the court
and tost the ball, and I do think there's a
lot of value in that. But yeah, is it going
to be a two hundred and seventy million dollar deal.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I don't think so. But I think they'll I think
they'll offer him a.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, I hope so much. I mean I would like
to see him still there.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
But but yeah, so that's my my thinking was Lebron's
going to sell them on the idea of him coming
back for one more year and possibly two, and and
I think that's all gone to hell with the injuries
because they're they are playing at Golden State Phoenix, Utah,
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who's already mailed the season in. So maybe one out
of those three games they'll win.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Well, you're looking at the Rockets, either you're gonna host
the first game or you're gonna be on the road.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
You're gonna be on the road. The Rockets have three
home games left. Yeah, uh, and they're tied right now.
And then and I think Oklahoma City is going to
play their ass off tonight against the Clippers so they
can rest these final two games. They do not want
the Nuggets sliding to the four. They want the Nuggets
in that three slot. So they're playing the Spurs in
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the second round, and Oklahoma City will gladly take the
winner of Houston, LA in the second round after they
dispatch with the playing team in the first round.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Nuggets are of the wildcard in the West.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
I mean, we've been sort of annoying the thinder Spurs,
but they're gonna rest.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
You watch, Oklahoma City will rest guys against the Nuggets.
They will lose that game to ensure, yeah, that they
stay in the three and play the Spurs. Because Jokic
Weenbin Yama. That talk about neutralizing you know, ween Beyama
with Jokic chump.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I mean, who's your MVP vote?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Oh it's it's it's Shade.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
I mean, it seems like it will be a runaway.
But I mean, Yokic is having a historic season.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I was going to say, wembin Yama with the defense.
I mean the fact that he's.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Like Yoga's first guy to ever lead the league of
rebounding assist the same year.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
It's ridiculous, like you can't go wrong. But to me,
wem ben Yama's gonna run away with Defensive Player of
the Year. He will win it unanimously and he will
win it. He is so far and away the best
defensive player.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
See my problem with him when people say is he
going to be the face of the NBA? It's hard
to relate to a guy from France, be a guy
that's seven to five. But Steph Curry is relatable.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Okay, that's fine. But if you had to buy a
ticket to go see one player right now in the NBA,
who would you like to go see?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, he is unique.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
It's not close.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, but it's he the face of the league.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
That it's the same thing. Who do you want to see?
If you had to buy, if you could only go
to one game, what one player do you want to see?
It's not close, it's not closely.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
I hope, So I agree, I hope.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So all right, Ron sayin yes, a sad day, but
Ron say kind of enough to join us as he
looks back on the career and the friendship with Davy Lopes,
who passed away earlier today.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
We will check in with him next.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Petros Papada kiss that money Smith. This is Petrol send
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Speaker 4 (07:38):
All right, Steve, Well excited to bring on our next guest.
Sadly bittersweet to always great to talk baseball with him,
but under the circumstances, certainly not ideal. Here on your
home of the Dodgers man that should be in the
Hall of Fame, part of the greatest infield in the
history of baseball, seven and a half seasons together, Uh
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with that greatest infield everybody in Los Angeles knows it,
Garvey Lopes, Russell Say, six time All Star World Series MVP,
and uh sadly the passing of Davy Lopes earlier, today's
kind of enough to join us. It is Ron Say
here on with Steve Hartman and me Matt money Smith. Ron,
thanks so much, and UH sad circumstances, but always great
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to hear your voice.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Thank you, Matt.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
Steve.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yes, it's a sad day for uh uh Dodger fans
baseball fans. You know, Davey had been struggling uh for
quite a few years. Uh back in Rhode Island is
where he decided to go back and spend time with
his family, and UH he's uh had a wonderful career
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a leader. UH ended up managing in Major League Baseball
as a coach and a coach with the Dodgers as well,
time All Star World champion, part of the longest running
and most successful infield in Major League history, and it
was really the catalyst at the top of the lineup
got things started for us. Pun intended he could steal
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runs without us having to do much at times, and
just a tremendous asset to our club. A special guy.
The the greatest second basement in La Dodger history, second
in Dodger history to Jackie Robinson. He certainly was a
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great performer and he deserves all the accolades that he
should be receiving.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Ron Hartman here, it's good to talk to you again. Man,
I haven't seen in a while. And obviously his money said,
it's it's a tough time to talk right now, you
know for someone of my generation. Obviously I was there
watching you guys. I was in high school when that
quartet was put together at the start of that nineteen
seventy three season. A lot of people don't remember that.
You know, Davy was twenty eight years old that year.
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I mean, you know, I was his first full year.
He had a Cup of coffee the year before. You
and Bill and Steve were younger guys, and this guy
paid his dues. He was also a converted outfielder, just
like Billy Russell was. So how did it How long
did it take for you guys that first season to
really mesh? Because I know Buckner got moved to the outfield,
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they moved Garvey to first base to free up third
base for you. But how long did it take for
you to really feel like this is working, this new
infield for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, you know, it didn't quite happened that way, but
it was Monti Bascal's recommended because of their athleticism and
their foot speed and their bats may not have been
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big enough to command a spot in the outfield, but
it certainly worked in the infield. And both of them
could run like hell. They were the two fastest guys
on our team, Billy from a longer distance, Davy from
a shorter distance. They both had great arms. They both
did at the top of the lineup. You know, they
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were durable. You look at that infield and you're going
to see that every member of the infield was playing
one hundred and fifty games a year and then the
Dodgers don't have one player that plays one hundred and
fifty games anymore. Times have changed dramatically, but it was
a special time we had a Davy was part of
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a four world series, world championship. You know, he was
so important to our cause he was vocal. Tommy even
named him captain to even bring him further out of
his shell, to to basically take advantage of what assets
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that he did in terms of leadership, bring those forward. So, yes,
we had a great mix. He was one of my
better friends. Spent a lot of time with him away
from the game, and we bonded on the road. Everybody
at home went home after the games because we lived
primarily in the San Fernando Valley in the Orange County,
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and so you know, we're sixty parts sixty miles apart
at the end of the night, and we didn't have
time because we wanted to spend time with our families.
But the road was where we bonded, and you know,
we had a lot of great conversations on you know,
how we were going to get this done, and everybody
understood the challenges and responsibilities of representing the Dodgers, and
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we had quite a one man. Davey was right at
the top of the list that who made major contributions.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
World Series, MVP, Legend of the Dodgers, and one of
the all time greats. Ron say with us, I cheated
you out of a year. Eight and a half years
you guys all spent together on that infield. You mentioned
it's the greatest infield in the history of the game,
the longest running infield in the history of the game.
You mentioned hanging out with them and friends and that
when you have I think between you four guys, it's
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you know, twenty five All Star games. Like what's it
like mesh personalities and what was that like, you know,
for you guys to just kind of make it right
there on the infield chemistry wise.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You know, you know, I have, you know, always pretty much,
you know, been pretty candid with the way that I
address things. I think Davy was maybe even a step
further at times. Billy was the one that was kind
of shine reserved, and uh, you know, Garb was kind
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of in the middle. So uh yeah, I you know,
we were all we all had different backgrounds, but we
were all homegrown. We all came from from the Dodger
organization in the minor leagues. And that's what makes it,
you know, even more special because you know, today there's
you know, not there's a whole mix. You look at
the Dodger lineup today and how many of those guys
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are homegrown? Not too many, and uh it's it's you know,
the money that is involved in the game today. They
they don't wait around much and they rush the minor
league players at a rate that is kind of alarming
to me. They don't have an opportunity to really grow into,
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uh and experience everything that they need to know when
they get to the big leagues. And uh, you can't,
you can't. You can't teach learn at the big leagues
what you need to teach and learn in the minor leagues.
That when you you should be a finished product or
a real, uh fine, finally processed a player by the
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time that you get there, and sometimes it doesn't work out.
And the worst thing for you know, a young player
is to you know, have to go up and down,
up and down. Its psychologically, it's it's very difficult to down.
But when we came in as a group, we stayed
here and that meant that we were ready and We
won ninety five games our rookie year, and that was
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back in the time of you know, one division and
you know, excuse me, two divisions, so only winners went
forward and there was only one five game series to
determine who went to the World World Series, and it
was either Cincinnati and US in the National League West,
and it was a combination of teams from the East.
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But we had a great rival Cincinnati, and you know,
it was more than a game when we played. And
you know, Davis contributions to all of that. You know,
he was the catalyst at the top of the lineup.
He did what Morey Wills did for Dodger teams in
the past, led the league and stole the basis a
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few times. He's got to be top ten, top fifteen
base dealers of all time. Really made his mark and
he was instrumental to our success.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
So Ron again, your guys, run was during my high
school in college years when I was at UCLA. The
losses in seventy and seventy and seventy eight to the Yankees,
I'm still feeling the pain. And then came nineteen eighty one.
I remember I was there opening day. Jerry Royce was
scheduled to start that day. He was a late scratch.
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They threw in a kidnamed Fernando Velenzuela's first major league
start shut out the Astros.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I wish he.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Had started that playoff game against the Astros in nineteen
eighty knowing that he was throwing a shut out that day.
But that was just a crazy season, Ron, and you know,
he had a split season and everything else. Rick Monday
hit the big home run against Montreal to get you
into the World Series. You lose the first couple of games,
No one things. You guys have a chance, and then
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you rattle off four in a row. You took a
fastball in the head from Goose gotstage. I mean, there
were so many things about that year, but for you
guys to keep that infield intact long enough, and of
course Davy left the Dodgers after that season, as Steve
Sacks would come in the following year, but to have
held that team intact, that infield intact, and to culminate
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it by winning the World Series. Now people talk about
eighty eight. I talk about eighty one because for me,
as a Dodger fan growing up, it had been sixteen
years since the Dodgers had won a World Series and
that was incredible. But what was it like for you
guys to just acknowledge the fact that this nine year
run that you'd had as an infield culminated winning that
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World Series.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, we've been knocking on the door so many times,
you know. Seventy eight was probably the hardest loss, simply
because of the interference call when we didn't have instant
replay back then. That changed the complexion of the entire series.
And unfortunately, we did not regroup from that eventual loss,
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and instead of being up three games to one and
pretty much be assured of that title, the way that
we were playing threw us in a tailspin and we
paid the ultimate price for that decision by losing. And
to be able to have this team together to finally
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achieve what we all had wanted so badly, to finally
have that, you know, be in so many World Series
and the part of a very dominant era in baseball
along with the Cincinnati Reds, a big red machine and
all the great players that they had a very special
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time for us and for us to be able to
you know, carve out our own niche in Dodger history.
You know, we had the first thirty home run for us,
and also, if you remember, we had the longest running infield,
most successful infield. As you know, all the All Star
games that the infield played in, there was only one
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member of that nineteen eighty one team that was on
the roster that did not play in an All Star game.
Everyone else at some point in time was an All Star.
So it was all very special historical things. It was
the last game that the infield would play together. The
four infielders that night were the first four hitters in
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the lineup. All kinds of things that you know weren't
necessarily present in your mind, but after you've had a
chance to review what took place, you see all these
things kind of symbolically, you know, be put in place.
And yeah, all kinds of crazy things happened that year.
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But the bottom line is, you know, we were able
to prevail and bring the World Series Championship back to
Los Angeles, and that was say I will never ever
forget the parade that we had. It was incredibly amazing
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and I'm just so happy that we had an opportunity
to you know, be able to do what we did,
which was written on the walls of in walls of
Dodger Town, Vero Beach, Florida. You know, all the great
players and all the great teams were up there, and
subliminally it left a mark because every time you went
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down a hallway, you ran into some other great player
or a great team that was on the wall. So
you automatically wanted to, you know, have your picture on
the wall and your team's pictures on the wall, which
eventually did happen. So it was all very special, all
very special.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Well, we know, like we said, Ron, just bittersweet to
have you on, but always great to hear the stories.
They're not told enough. And I guess I'll just kind
of finish with this because you know, whatever, you if
you do something in life that that you're with a partner.
I mean, for me, it's a stupid radio show. And
half the time I run into people, the first thing,
that's where's Petros? What's he doing? Is it like that
for you guys to do? Do people just kind of
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connect you, like, Hey, what's what's the what I would assume, right,
every every baseball conversation probably revolves around you four guys.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Uh, you know, we're you know it was you know,
like I said, it was special and I hate to
be redundant, but you know, uh, you know, we we've
made an incredible impact back then, you know, I mean
we were the game in town. Uh. You know, we
we had an infield that stayed together so long that
we became household names. And and you know, it's not
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it's not a matter of you know, uh bragging about it.
It's just simply a matter of fact, you know.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
And Russell, it was like one continuous name.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Ron Well it fits that way, you know. I mean
it went right around the horn from first second shorts
the third and you know, if you if you try
to mix it in differently, it doesn't sound the same,
but it kind of rolls together, you know, and and
and and uh and I and we all liked that,
you know that we were you know, uh, you know, uh,
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we're a team. Everybody shares and what we experience. Uh,
you can't you can't share the same thing individually. But
at the end of the day, you know, we win
or we lose. And when we were finally able to
do that, you know, no matter what kind of an
individual season players have, you want you want it all.
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And there's not too many guys to get to stand
at the top of the mountain, and you know, we
had our turn, and I'm certainly glad we did, because
not only did I think we deserve it earn it,
but so did our fans, so did the organization and
the people that sit behind us well.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And a great opportunity to have you on to remind
people how special Davey Lopes was, one of the all
time greats and the reason why the Dodgers became as
popular as they are in this town thanks to that run.
Like you said, eight and a half years, the best
infield in the history of baseball, the great, ron say.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Should be in the Hall of Fame. But the Hall
of Fame sucks.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
So they don't like third basement out what's going on?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
They don't, They really don't.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, I thank you for your confidence in that, but
I think I've the fact that I'm a Dodger legend.
I think that's as good as it's going to get,
and I can live with that.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Yeah, not a bad thing at all.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
They will forever be the greatest third baseman in Dodger
history period.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Exclamation point.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Thanks you so much, Matt Steve. I really appreciate you
having me on so that we could express our gratitude
and respect for Davey Lopes as a player and a person.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Thank you, Thank you, Ron. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Thanks Ron.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
There he goes Ron saying, you lived at Steve I did.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Yeah, you have to understand. So the first Dodger game
I went to, I was eight years old. I saw
Sandy Kofax pitch. So that was his last year in
nineteen sixty six. So I don't really remember really following
the Dodgers during that run. Yeah, I'm just on the cusp.
And then the next year I'm into it. Now I'm
listening to Dodger baseball. And they went right into the toilet.
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So they suffered for a number of years, and then
came nineteen seventy three. They were on the cusp, but
all of a sudden, Garvey was not doing the job
at thirty, couldn't throw the ball straight.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
They pulled him.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
At first Billy bucknerry young player, was moved to left field.
Now they bring in this rookie name, Ron say, they
bring in another rookie, Davy Lopes. What was interesting about
Lopes and Russell at second and short? So their second
year together they win the Nation League pennant, they get
to the World Series and lose to the A's. When
they won their third straight World Series, you weren't upset.
That was a young Dodger team, right, You knew they'd
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get other opportunities. But the two guys in the middle
Lopes had twenty four aers that you Russell had thirty nine,
and they won one hundred and two games. But they
were more offensive players. They were converted outfields. They were
learning how to really play the middle of the infield.
So despite the fact that their middle infield committed sixty
three airs, they still won one hundred and two games.
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Obviously things got a lot better defensively as the years
went by. But if you're a Dodger fan at.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
That point, I just can't overstate how special Garvey Loops
Russell say. I just it can't be overstated. They were
that dynamic, they were that legendary, and their legendists forever.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, eighty years old, and as Ron just mentioned, coach
for a long time, got right into it in eighty
eight when he was finished playing.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
And uh man, oh.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
He was a natural coach. Yeah, because he was captain
of the Dodgers as well.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
So sad day, but always enjoyable to catch up and
talk about those great Dodger teams with the great Ron Say,
we'll be back to your dead and the live guy
birthday of the day, and then handed off to Adam
Austlin for Clipper basketball.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
This is Petros Money on Demand.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
All right, that's gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Celebratory day here on the Petros and Money Show with
the Great Steve Hartman in for p taking the day off.
Well it was, you know, it would have been nice
to have two hours, Steve. We ended up getting a
little over ninety minutes.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
You know, I didn't know how much time I was
going to get today, but I appreciate every second I've
had with you, Money.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It's always great.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Reuniting with you every single time feels so good. It
feels so good, I know I can. I always love
looking and hearing you guys.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
When you talk about those that are alive and those
that are no longer with us, right, it sort of
irks me though, when I realize someone that seems like
they've been around forever still alive, is actually younger than me.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Well, before you get to that, yes, before you get
to the alive Gay a reminder that the Dodgers are
off tomorrow. Back on Friday, gaalpin Ford broadcast booths seven
o'clock first pitch against the Rangers. And the reason it
is such a short show is because we were sandwiched.
Coming up next Adam Oslin, we'll have his Clippers pregame,
and then the Clippers. We'll see if they can avoid
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losing to the Thunder by fifty like the Lakers did
last night. Let's see if they can make it less
than fifty. With the Thunder in town, only needing one
more win in their final three games to lock up
the number one seed. I'm sure they'd like to get
that out of the way tonight. Rest their guys going
into the postseason tip off coming up at seven o'clock.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
You're a dead guy.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Somebody that I believe will be right in your wheelhouse
here Steve Edward Moore. Harry, he is Irish, he was
Devon from Night Rider. You had Michael Knight, David Hasselhoff.
Of course, you had Kit the voice of the Car,
and then you had Devin Miles.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
I would have preferred you to have let me open
the door first.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
However, as you see, no harm has come to the car.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You also told me this machine couldn't have a collision
and not if the system is operable, and to.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Do that you have to switch it on first. You
telling me I can't hit anything trust me, I'll never
trust anybody again.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that Dame song.
Here you go. He's a Corker. He was born in Cork.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
He studied medicine at university before falling in love with
a theater. They loved him at the Gate in Dublin,
so he was recruited to Lon didn't worked with Orson
Wells in nineteen fifty one on a fellow so he
was big time pigmailion at the West End and then
he took off for the US on Broadway, My Fair Lady,
splendid reviews, Hollywood Came Calling, starred on The Telly You
(29:16):
Gunloader Adventures of Robin Hoood, Daniel Boone, Twelve o'clock Eye,
He starred and The Ghost and Missus Muir.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Now that is where I grew up.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
With the Ghost of Missus Muir with Hope Lang and
Edward Mulhane.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I saw you champion at the bit.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I just could not wait till you mentioned The Ghost
of Missus Muir. Loved that show when it first came out. Uh,
sixty episodes.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Oh yeah, we had a good run. Hope Lang was
an Oscar nominated actress. I thought she was beautiful wo
and Moulhair.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Was a young old man just hitting puberty, touching you
and junk and you know.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
What's happening there. It's like junior high school days. Yeah,
oh yeah, Lang, I see you hello.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
And then the film Von Ryan's Express, an all time
great capricep'sily a TV guy though a lot of one offs.
After starring in the Ghost and Missus Muir, Hunter Battlestar Galactica,
Heart the Heart eighty two, He Lands the Big One,
Devin Miles and night Rider eighty six episodes before they
killed him off in night Rider two thousand. Spoiler alert,
heavy smoker lung cancer got him in ninety seven. He
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never married, but they say Mulhair a real ladies man. Wow, yes,
I could see that would have been one hundred and
three today, Edward Mulhair.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
All right, Well, I have someone a little bit younger
than that of someone that's actually alive right now. And
again a little distressing because it seems like he was
starring in a show that was a long time ago,
and yet I find out he's actually younger than me.
A happy sixty six birthday to actor and singer John Schneider.
Oh yeah, best on a.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Course for his portrayal of Bo Duke in The Dukes
of Hazzard as Clark Kent's father, Jonathan Kent in the
television series Smallville, and Jim Quier in the television series
That Have and Have Nots, which aired.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
From twenty thirteen to twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Never heard of it? Have you?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
For eight years? I have never heard, never heard of it?
And it was on for Jim Cryer. Wow, okay, anyway, Duke, Yeah,
I'm talking. Not to be confused with John Cryer.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Obviously now born in New York, his parents divorced when
he was young.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
His dad was an Air Force pilot, so.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
He lived with his mom in Florida and then moved
to Atlanta Military nineteen seventy seven, lanted a small background
role in Smoky and the Bandit You see the connection now.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
A year later, in nineteen seventy eight, eighteen years old,
he landed the role of Bo Duke in the TV
series The Duke.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Soon Hazard Schneider as like the ultimate hark Throp.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
He was on the buffer of Tiger Beat and Bop
and all of.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
That blonde hair.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Yeah, you know, the jeans were tight, very tight in
those days. By the way, At the height of the series,
Popularity also became a recording artist and faced a merchandise
nineteen eighty two, a tangle of legal suits and with
the producers over the distribution of merchandising royalties caused him
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and his co star Tom Wopat to leave the show
for most of the season. They returned to their roles
the next season nineteen eighty three, only after their claims
were satisfied. The show was canceled in eighty five after
seven season.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
That's Good Run.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Then in twenty and one, he portrayed Jonathan Kent, the
adoptive father Clark Kent in one hundred episodes of Smallville.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Remember Smallville?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I do two.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
I don't remember him in Smallville, but I remember small
I just remember it being a big well.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
He looked different by this time, he was growing up.
And then This is the Mystery Show.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
From twenty thirteen to twenty twenty one, John had a
role in the TV series The Haves and The Have Nots,
a Tyler Perry produced series that aired on the own network,
Sobrah's Network twenty one. His role in the Canadian movie
this year, So hearned him a nomination for Best Supporting
Actor in several independent film festivals. Alongside his acting career,
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Schneider has been a country singer since the early nineteen eighties,
releasing nine studio albums.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Do you ever cross paths with him in your music days?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Not once? Not once.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
He had the Greatest Hits Package eighteen singles. He won
an ACM for Top Newcomer in nineteen eighty two, went
on to win a few Grammys. Four of his songs
reached the top of the Billboard Country Singles charts.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
He's been married four times and only has three kids.
Who actually has more wives than kids.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
So happy sixty sixth birthday to actor and musician the
great John Schneider.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Hard to be the Dukes of Hazzard. It was a
cultural phenomena, Oh back in the day. That is the
end of our show. We will hand it off here
to adam ouslind He will take it with Clippers pregame
Clippers Thunder coming up Tipping off seven tomorrow. A full
four hour Petro Send Money shows. The Dodgers and Clippers
both have the day off, but the Dodgers will be
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back on Friday at three to six show for US
that day as they will be hosting the Texas Rangers,
and we will find our way out to Dodger Stadium
during his homestand as well, I believe we'll be out
there on Monday.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Hartman, You're the best. Thank you very much. Money always
a pleasure. I think the Lakers can win it.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Perfect still feel that way.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
No, they may probably not gonna win another game, but
it sounded good at the time.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Podcasted an hour and a half with Hartman was freaking
great sports talk, great sports talk, Hall of Fame caliber,
Marconi winning production. Thank you, Ronnie, tim Kates. Coming up next,
Adamost Pleasure
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
No, no, okay?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Sucking down at nine and.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
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Speaker 3 (00:46):
How about that? Colin ye?
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We'll have Dodgers Rangers Friday off day tomorrow. Steve Hartman. Yes,
it's here in place of pen By that still got
a little less than an hour.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I know you love hearing that, don't you.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I do. I have your conversations.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I want to ask you something because you are mister Laker.
Now we do have Ron calling I know is going
to be okay. Can I just get a quick thing
here on last night? I just want to get your
thoughts fifty Well, I look, I mean they played their
G League team. But anyway, Mark Walters and Guggenheim done
a phenomenal job of the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
They know how to wander.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
I mean with the Dodgers, they and they will with
the Lakers because they I know. It's a different dynamic
with this salary cap and everything.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
In the NBA, but lottery.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
This this is a company that understands how to build
a successful organization.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And this is no knock on the Bus family.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Look, I love Genie and I you know I have
nothing against the Bus Family.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Not worth. No, it's a different deal.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
So but are you are you a believer that we
are going to see sweeping changes after this year? I mean,
obviously it's building about Luca. How do you think it's
going to play out going into next season?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
So I I did stories like the last I don't know,
a couple days or prior to the injuries, where I said,
oh I can see probably last two weeks I should say.
I was like, I know, where this is going. I
can figure. I see what's happening. Lebron does not want
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to leave. He recognizes that Mark Walter is not effing around,
and he's probably going to kick his ass out of
town because he doesn't need this guy poisoning the well
with his true superstar Luka Doncic and he takes the
back seat. No, I'm just filling in the cracks. And
look how good we are. And now we're in the
three seed and Luca's in the MVP conversation Sea boss.
(02:52):
This is going to work. Keep me around for a
couple more years at forty per and he can retire
a Laker, which is what he probably wants. If you
want a farewell tour, you'd want it in a Laker jersey,
not you know.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, I mean Cleveland would be the only other.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Certainly that would be the only other option. And they're
good enough where they could challenge for a championship, But
I don't know if they want that. Do you really
want Lebron?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
I think Cleveland was approached before the season. You remember
when he had the sciatica. Yes, I was suspicious about
that one. That was I think they were trying to
buy time see if they could get a deal done.
I don't think the Cavs are interesting.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And so I think he recognized that and that's why
they So my point where I'm getting with this because
I know we're so we're not going to get the
word number saw. So what I believed was Okay, if
they can make a run to the conference finals, he
can sell this idea, he can sell bring me back.
It's been another year. We'll find some other pieces. I
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don't need fifty three million bucks, give me, give me
thirty million bucks a year or something left forty million
bucks a year, which to I would say, no, I
don't I don't need. No one else is going to
pay you that, So why am I? But But now
that it's falling apart, and now that they're putting Brownie
out there and he's being post is not an NBA player,
I think they're just gonna cut it.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
And I think they're going to put a price tag
to Austin Reeves and they're gonna say this is this
is our offer.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, I mean I think Austin.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And he only played fifty one games this year.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Money, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
The injuries are an issue. Injuries with Luca are an issue. Uh,
it's But at the same time, I do think I
do think having another ball handler, someone Cap and he's
a hell I mean, he can really see the court
and tost the ball, and I do think there's a
lot of value in that. But yeah, is it going
to be a two hundred and seventy million dollar deal.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I don't think so. But I think they'll I think
they'll offer him a.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, I hope so much. I mean I would like
to see him still there.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
But but yeah, so that's my my thinking was Lebron's
going to sell them on the idea of him coming
back for one more year and possibly two, and and
I think that's all gone to hell with the injuries
because they're they are playing at Golden State Phoenix, Utah,
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who's already mailed the season in. So maybe one out
of those three games they'll win.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Well, you're looking at the Rockets, either you're gonna host
the first game or you're gonna be on the road.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
You're gonna be on the road. The Rockets have three
home games left. Yeah, uh, and they're tied right now.
And then and I think Oklahoma City is going to
play their ass off tonight against the Clippers so they
can rest these final two games. They do not want
the Nuggets sliding to the four. They want the Nuggets
in that three slot. So they're playing the Spurs in
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the second round, and Oklahoma City will gladly take the
winner of Houston, LA in the second round after they
dispatch with the playing team in the first round.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Nuggets are of the wildcard in the West.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
I mean, we've been sort of annoying the thinder Spurs,
but they're gonna rest.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
You watch, Oklahoma City will rest guys against the Nuggets.
They will lose that game to ensure, yeah, that they
stay in the three and play the Spurs. Because Jokic
Weenbin Yama. That talk about neutralizing you know, ween Beyama
with Jokic chump.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I mean, who's your MVP vote?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Oh it's it's it's Shade.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
I mean, it seems like it will be a runaway.
But I mean, Yokic is having a historic season.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I was going to say, wembin Yama with the defense.
I mean the fact that he's.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Like Yoga's first guy to ever lead the league of
rebounding assist the same year.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
It's ridiculous, like you can't go wrong. But to me,
wem ben Yama's gonna run away with Defensive Player of
the Year. He will win it unanimously and he will
win it. He is so far and away the best
defensive player.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
See my problem with him when people say is he
going to be the face of the NBA? It's hard
to relate to a guy from France, be a guy
that's seven to five. But Steph Curry is relatable.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Okay, that's fine. But if you had to buy a
ticket to go see one player right now in the NBA,
who would you like to go see?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, he is unique.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
It's not close.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yeah, but it's he the face of the league.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
That it's the same thing. Who do you want to see?
If you had to buy, if you could only go
to one game, what one player do you want to see?
It's not close, it's not closely.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
I hope, So I agree, I hope.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So all right, Ron sayin yes, a sad day, but
Ron say kind of enough to join us as he
looks back on the career and the friendship with Davy Lopes,
who passed away earlier today.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
We will check in with him next.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Petros Papada kiss that money Smith. This is Petrol send
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Speaker 4 (07:38):
All right, Steve, Well excited to bring on our next guest.
Sadly bittersweet to always great to talk baseball with him,
but under the circumstances, certainly not ideal. Here on your
home of the Dodgers man that should be in the
Hall of Fame, part of the greatest infield in the
history of baseball, seven and a half seasons together, Uh
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with that greatest infield everybody in Los Angeles knows it,
Garvey Lopes, Russell Say, six time All Star World Series MVP,
and uh sadly the passing of Davy Lopes earlier, today's
kind of enough to join us. It is Ron Say
here on with Steve Hartman and me Matt money Smith. Ron,
thanks so much, and UH sad circumstances, but always great
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to hear your voice.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Thank you, Matt.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
Steve.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yes, it's a sad day for uh uh Dodger fans
baseball fans. You know, Davey had been struggling uh for
quite a few years. Uh back in Rhode Island is
where he decided to go back and spend time with
his family, and UH he's uh had a wonderful career
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a leader. UH ended up managing in Major League Baseball
as a coach and a coach with the Dodgers as well,
time All Star World champion, part of the longest running
and most successful infield in Major League history, and it
was really the catalyst at the top of the lineup
got things started for us. Pun intended he could steal
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runs without us having to do much at times, and
just a tremendous asset to our club. A special guy.
The the greatest second basement in La Dodger history, second
in Dodger history to Jackie Robinson. He certainly was a
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great performer and he deserves all the accolades that he
should be receiving.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Ron Hartman here, it's good to talk to you again. Man,
I haven't seen in a while. And obviously his money said,
it's it's a tough time to talk right now, you
know for someone of my generation. Obviously I was there
watching you guys. I was in high school when that
quartet was put together at the start of that nineteen
seventy three season. A lot of people don't remember that.
You know, Davy was twenty eight years old that year.
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I mean, you know, I was his first full year.
He had a Cup of coffee the year before. You
and Bill and Steve were younger guys, and this guy
paid his dues. He was also a converted outfielder, just
like Billy Russell was. So how did it How long
did it take for you guys that first season to
really mesh? Because I know Buckner got moved to the outfield,
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they moved Garvey to first base to free up third
base for you. But how long did it take for
you to really feel like this is working, this new
infield for the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, you know, it didn't quite happened that way, but
it was Monti Bascal's recommended because of their athleticism and
their foot speed and their bats may not have been
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big enough to command a spot in the outfield, but
it certainly worked in the infield. And both of them
could run like hell. They were the two fastest guys
on our team, Billy from a longer distance, Davy from
a shorter distance. They both had great arms. They both
did at the top of the lineup. You know, they
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were durable. You look at that infield and you're going
to see that every member of the infield was playing
one hundred and fifty games a year and then the
Dodgers don't have one player that plays one hundred and
fifty games anymore. Times have changed dramatically, but it was
a special time we had a Davy was part of
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a four world series, world championship. You know, he was
so important to our cause he was vocal. Tommy even
named him captain to even bring him further out of
his shell, to to basically take advantage of what assets
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that he did in terms of leadership, bring those forward. So, yes,
we had a great mix. He was one of my
better friends. Spent a lot of time with him away
from the game, and we bonded on the road. Everybody
at home went home after the games because we lived
primarily in the San Fernando Valley in the Orange County,
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and so you know, we're sixty parts sixty miles apart
at the end of the night, and we didn't have
time because we wanted to spend time with our families.
But the road was where we bonded, and you know,
we had a lot of great conversations on you know,
how we were going to get this done, and everybody
understood the challenges and responsibilities of representing the Dodgers, and
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we had quite a one man. Davey was right at
the top of the list that who made major contributions.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
World Series, MVP, Legend of the Dodgers, and one of
the all time greats. Ron say with us, I cheated
you out of a year. Eight and a half years
you guys all spent together on that infield. You mentioned
it's the greatest infield in the history of the game,
the longest running infield in the history of the game.
You mentioned hanging out with them and friends and that
when you have I think between you four guys, it's
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you know, twenty five All Star games. Like what's it
like mesh personalities and what was that like, you know,
for you guys to just kind of make it right
there on the infield chemistry wise.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You know, you know, I have, you know, always pretty much,
you know, been pretty candid with the way that I
address things. I think Davy was maybe even a step
further at times. Billy was the one that was kind
of shine reserved, and uh, you know, Garb was kind
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of in the middle. So uh yeah, I you know,
we were all we all had different backgrounds, but we
were all homegrown. We all came from from the Dodger
organization in the minor leagues. And that's what makes it,
you know, even more special because you know, today there's
you know, not there's a whole mix. You look at
the Dodger lineup today and how many of those guys
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are homegrown? Not too many, and uh it's it's you know,
the money that is involved in the game today. They
they don't wait around much and they rush the minor
league players at a rate that is kind of alarming
to me. They don't have an opportunity to really grow into,
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uh and experience everything that they need to know when
they get to the big leagues. And uh, you can't,
you can't. You can't teach learn at the big leagues
what you need to teach and learn in the minor leagues.
That when you you should be a finished product or
a real, uh fine, finally processed a player by the
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time that you get there, and sometimes it doesn't work out.
And the worst thing for you know, a young player
is to you know, have to go up and down,
up and down. Its psychologically, it's it's very difficult to down.
But when we came in as a group, we stayed
here and that meant that we were ready and We
won ninety five games our rookie year, and that was
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back in the time of you know, one division and
you know, excuse me, two divisions, so only winners went
forward and there was only one five game series to
determine who went to the World World Series, and it
was either Cincinnati and US in the National League West,
and it was a combination of teams from the East.
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But we had a great rival Cincinnati, and you know,
it was more than a game when we played. And
you know, Davis contributions to all of that. You know,
he was the catalyst at the top of the lineup.
He did what Morey Wills did for Dodger teams in
the past, led the league and stole the basis a
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few times. He's got to be top ten, top fifteen
base dealers of all time. Really made his mark and
he was instrumental to our success.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
So Ron again, your guys, run was during my high
school in college years when I was at UCLA. The
losses in seventy and seventy and seventy eight to the Yankees,
I'm still feeling the pain. And then came nineteen eighty one.
I remember I was there opening day. Jerry Royce was
scheduled to start that day. He was a late scratch.
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They threw in a kidnamed Fernando Velenzuela's first major league
start shut out the Astros.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I wish he.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
Had started that playoff game against the Astros in nineteen
eighty knowing that he was throwing a shut out that day.
But that was just a crazy season, Ron, and you know,
he had a split season and everything else. Rick Monday
hit the big home run against Montreal to get you
into the World Series. You lose the first couple of games,
No one things. You guys have a chance, and then
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you rattle off four in a row. You took a
fastball in the head from Goose gotstage. I mean, there
were so many things about that year, but for you
guys to keep that infield intact long enough, and of
course Davy left the Dodgers after that season, as Steve
Sacks would come in the following year, but to have
held that team intact, that infield intact, and to culminate
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it by winning the World Series. Now people talk about
eighty eight. I talk about eighty one because for me,
as a Dodger fan growing up, it had been sixteen
years since the Dodgers had won a World Series and
that was incredible. But what was it like for you
guys to just acknowledge the fact that this nine year
run that you'd had as an infield culminated winning that
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World Series.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well, we've been knocking on the door so many times,
you know. Seventy eight was probably the hardest loss, simply
because of the interference call when we didn't have instant
replay back then. That changed the complexion of the entire series.
And unfortunately, we did not regroup from that eventual loss,
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and instead of being up three games to one and
pretty much be assured of that title, the way that
we were playing threw us in a tailspin and we
paid the ultimate price for that decision by losing. And
to be able to have this team together to finally
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achieve what we all had wanted so badly, to finally
have that, you know, be in so many World Series
and the part of a very dominant era in baseball
along with the Cincinnati Reds, a big red machine and
all the great players that they had a very special
(19:10):
time for us and for us to be able to
you know, carve out our own niche in Dodger history.
You know, we had the first thirty home run for us,
and also, if you remember, we had the longest running infield,
most successful infield. As you know, all the All Star
games that the infield played in, there was only one
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member of that nineteen eighty one team that was on
the roster that did not play in an All Star game.
Everyone else at some point in time was an All Star.
So it was all very special historical things. It was
the last game that the infield would play together. The
four infielders that night were the first four hitters in
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the lineup. All kinds of things that you know weren't
necessarily present in your mind, but after you've had a
chance to review what took place, you see all these
things kind of symbolically, you know, be put in place.
And yeah, all kinds of crazy things happened that year.
(20:17):
But the bottom line is, you know, we were able
to prevail and bring the World Series Championship back to
Los Angeles, and that was say I will never ever
forget the parade that we had. It was incredibly amazing
(20:38):
and I'm just so happy that we had an opportunity
to you know, be able to do what we did,
which was written on the walls of in walls of
Dodger Town, Vero Beach, Florida. You know, all the great
players and all the great teams were up there, and
subliminally it left a mark because every time you went
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down a hallway, you ran into some other great player
or a great team that was on the wall. So
you automatically wanted to, you know, have your picture on
the wall and your team's pictures on the wall, which
eventually did happen. So it was all very special, all
very special.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Well, we know, like we said, Ron, just bittersweet to
have you on, but always great to hear the stories.
They're not told enough. And I guess I'll just kind
of finish with this because you know, whatever, you if
you do something in life that that you're with a partner.
I mean, for me, it's a stupid radio show. And
half the time I run into people, the first thing,
that's where's Petros? What's he doing? Is it like that
for you guys to do? Do people just kind of
(21:39):
connect you, like, Hey, what's what's the what I would assume, right,
every every baseball conversation probably revolves around you four guys.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Uh, you know, we're you know it was you know,
like I said, it was special and I hate to
be redundant, but you know, uh, you know, we we've
made an incredible impact back then, you know, I mean
we were the game in town. Uh. You know, we
we had an infield that stayed together so long that
we became household names. And and you know, it's not
(22:07):
it's not a matter of you know, uh bragging about it.
It's just simply a matter of fact, you know.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
And Russell, it was like one continuous name.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Ron Well it fits that way, you know. I mean
it went right around the horn from first second shorts
the third and you know, if you if you try
to mix it in differently, it doesn't sound the same,
but it kind of rolls together, you know, and and
and and uh and I and we all liked that,
you know that we were you know, uh, you know, uh,
(22:42):
we're a team. Everybody shares and what we experience. Uh,
you can't you can't share the same thing individually. But
at the end of the day, you know, we win
or we lose. And when we were finally able to
do that, you know, no matter what kind of an
individual season players have, you want you want it all.
(23:02):
And there's not too many guys to get to stand
at the top of the mountain, and you know, we
had our turn, and I'm certainly glad we did, because
not only did I think we deserve it earn it,
but so did our fans, so did the organization and
the people that sit behind us well.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And a great opportunity to have you on to remind
people how special Davey Lopes was, one of the all
time greats and the reason why the Dodgers became as
popular as they are in this town thanks to that run.
Like you said, eight and a half years, the best
infield in the history of baseball, the great, ron say.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Should be in the Hall of Fame. But the Hall
of Fame sucks.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
So they don't like third basement out what's going on?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
They don't, They really don't.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Well, I thank you for your confidence in that, but
I think I've the fact that I'm a Dodger legend.
I think that's as good as it's going to get,
and I can live with that.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Yeah, not a bad thing at all.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
They will forever be the greatest third baseman in Dodger
history period.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Exclamation point.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Thanks you so much, Matt Steve. I really appreciate you
having me on so that we could express our gratitude
and respect for Davey Lopes as a player and a person.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
Thank you, Thank you, Ron. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Thanks Ron.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
There he goes Ron saying, you lived at Steve I did.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Yeah, you have to understand. So the first Dodger game
I went to, I was eight years old. I saw
Sandy Kofax pitch. So that was his last year in
nineteen sixty six. So I don't really remember really following
the Dodgers during that run. Yeah, I'm just on the cusp.
And then the next year I'm into it. Now I'm
listening to Dodger baseball. And they went right into the toilet.
(24:47):
So they suffered for a number of years, and then
came nineteen seventy three. They were on the cusp, but
all of a sudden, Garvey was not doing the job
at thirty, couldn't throw the ball straight.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
They pulled him.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
At first Billy bucknerry young player, was moved to left field.
Now they bring in this rookie name, Ron say, they
bring in another rookie, Davy Lopes. What was interesting about
Lopes and Russell at second and short? So their second
year together they win the Nation League pennant, they get
to the World Series and lose to the A's. When
they won their third straight World Series, you weren't upset.
That was a young Dodger team, right, You knew they'd
(25:19):
get other opportunities. But the two guys in the middle
Lopes had twenty four aers that you Russell had thirty nine,
and they won one hundred and two games. But they
were more offensive players. They were converted outfields. They were
learning how to really play the middle of the infield.
So despite the fact that their middle infield committed sixty
three airs, they still won one hundred and two games.
(25:40):
Obviously things got a lot better defensively as the years
went by. But if you're a Dodger fan at.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
That point, I just can't overstate how special Garvey Loops
Russell say. I just it can't be overstated. They were
that dynamic, they were that legendary, and their legendists forever.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, eighty years old, and as Ron just mentioned, coach
for a long time, got right into it in eighty
eight when he was finished playing.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
And uh man, oh.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
He was a natural coach. Yeah, because he was captain
of the Dodgers as well.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
So sad day, but always enjoyable to catch up and
talk about those great Dodger teams with the great Ron Say,
we'll be back to your dead and the live guy
birthday of the day, and then handed off to Adam
Austlin for Clipper basketball.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
This is Petros Money on Demand.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
All right, that's gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Celebratory day here on the Petros and Money Show with
the Great Steve Hartman in for p taking the day off.
Well it was, you know, it would have been nice
to have two hours, Steve. We ended up getting a
little over ninety minutes.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
You know, I didn't know how much time I was
going to get today, but I appreciate every second I've
had with you, Money.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It's always great.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Reuniting with you every single time feels so good. It
feels so good, I know I can. I always love
looking and hearing you guys.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
When you talk about those that are alive and those
that are no longer with us, right, it sort of
irks me though, when I realize someone that seems like
they've been around forever still alive, is actually younger than me.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Well, before you get to that, yes, before you get
to the alive Gay a reminder that the Dodgers are
off tomorrow. Back on Friday, gaalpin Ford broadcast booths seven
o'clock first pitch against the Rangers. And the reason it
is such a short show is because we were sandwiched.
Coming up next Adam Oslin, we'll have his Clippers pregame,
and then the Clippers. We'll see if they can avoid
(27:37):
losing to the Thunder by fifty like the Lakers did
last night. Let's see if they can make it less
than fifty. With the Thunder in town, only needing one
more win in their final three games to lock up
the number one seed. I'm sure they'd like to get
that out of the way tonight. Rest their guys going
into the postseason tip off coming up at seven o'clock.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
You're a dead guy.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Somebody that I believe will be right in your wheelhouse
here Steve Edward Moore. Harry, he is Irish, he was
Devon from Night Rider. You had Michael Knight, David Hasselhoff.
Of course, you had Kit the voice of the Car,
and then you had Devin Miles.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
I would have preferred you to have let me open
the door first.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
However, as you see, no harm has come to the car.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You also told me this machine couldn't have a collision
and not if the system is operable, and to.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Do that you have to switch it on first. You
telling me I can't hit anything trust me, I'll never
trust anybody again.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that Dame song.
Here you go. He's a Corker. He was born in Cork.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
He studied medicine at university before falling in love with
a theater. They loved him at the Gate in Dublin,
so he was recruited to Lon didn't worked with Orson
Wells in nineteen fifty one on a fellow so he
was big time pigmailion at the West End and then
he took off for the US on Broadway, My Fair Lady,
splendid reviews, Hollywood Came Calling, starred on The Telly You
(29:16):
Gunloader Adventures of Robin Hoood, Daniel Boone, Twelve o'clock Eye,
He starred and The Ghost and Missus Muir.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Now that is where I grew up.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
With the Ghost of Missus Muir with Hope Lang and
Edward Mulhane.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I saw you champion at the bit.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I just could not wait till you mentioned The Ghost
of Missus Muir. Loved that show when it first came out. Uh,
sixty episodes.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Oh yeah, we had a good run. Hope Lang was
an Oscar nominated actress. I thought she was beautiful wo
and Moulhair.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Was a young old man just hitting puberty, touching you
and junk and you know.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
What's happening there. It's like junior high school days. Yeah,
oh yeah, Lang, I see you hello.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
And then the film Von Ryan's Express, an all time
great capricep'sily a TV guy though a lot of one offs.
After starring in the Ghost and Missus Muir, Hunter Battlestar Galactica,
Heart the Heart eighty two, He Lands the Big One,
Devin Miles and night Rider eighty six episodes before they
killed him off in night Rider two thousand. Spoiler alert,
heavy smoker lung cancer got him in ninety seven. He
(30:18):
never married, but they say Mulhair a real ladies man. Wow, yes,
I could see that would have been one hundred and
three today, Edward Mulhair.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
All right, Well, I have someone a little bit younger
than that of someone that's actually alive right now. And
again a little distressing because it seems like he was
starring in a show that was a long time ago,
and yet I find out he's actually younger than me.
A happy sixty six birthday to actor and singer John Schneider.
Oh yeah, best on a.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Course for his portrayal of Bo Duke in The Dukes
of Hazzard as Clark Kent's father, Jonathan Kent in the
television series Smallville, and Jim Quier in the television series
That Have and Have Nots, which aired.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
From twenty thirteen to twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Never heard of it? Have you?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
For eight years? I have never heard, never heard of it?
And it was on for Jim Cryer. Wow, okay, anyway, Duke, Yeah,
I'm talking. Not to be confused with John Cryer.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Obviously now born in New York, his parents divorced when
he was young.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
His dad was an Air Force pilot, so.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
He lived with his mom in Florida and then moved
to Atlanta Military nineteen seventy seven, lanted a small background
role in Smoky and the Bandit You see the connection now.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
A year later, in nineteen seventy eight, eighteen years old,
he landed the role of Bo Duke in the TV
series The Duke.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Soon Hazard Schneider as like the ultimate hark Throp.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
He was on the buffer of Tiger Beat and Bop
and all of.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
That blonde hair.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
Yeah, you know, the jeans were tight, very tight in
those days. By the way, At the height of the series,
Popularity also became a recording artist and faced a merchandise
nineteen eighty two, a tangle of legal suits and with
the producers over the distribution of merchandising royalties caused him
(32:15):
and his co star Tom Wopat to leave the show
for most of the season. They returned to their roles
the next season nineteen eighty three, only after their claims
were satisfied. The show was canceled in eighty five after
seven season.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
That's Good Run.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Then in twenty and one, he portrayed Jonathan Kent, the
adoptive father Clark Kent in one hundred episodes of Smallville.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Remember Smallville?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I do two.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
I don't remember him in Smallville, but I remember small
I just remember it being a big well.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
He looked different by this time, he was growing up.
And then This is the Mystery Show.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
From twenty thirteen to twenty twenty one, John had a
role in the TV series The Haves and The Have Nots,
a Tyler Perry produced series that aired on the own network,
Sobrah's Network twenty one. His role in the Canadian movie
this year, So hearned him a nomination for Best Supporting
Actor in several independent film festivals. Alongside his acting career,
(33:10):
Schneider has been a country singer since the early nineteen eighties,
releasing nine studio albums.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Do you ever cross paths with him in your music days?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Not once? Not once.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
He had the Greatest Hits Package eighteen singles. He won
an ACM for Top Newcomer in nineteen eighty two, went
on to win a few Grammys. Four of his songs
reached the top of the Billboard Country Singles charts.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
He's been married four times and only has three kids.
Who actually has more wives than kids.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
So happy sixty sixth birthday to actor and musician the
great John Schneider.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Hard to be the Dukes of Hazzard. It was a
cultural phenomena, Oh back in the day. That is the
end of our show. We will hand it off here
to adam ouslind He will take it with Clippers pregame
Clippers Thunder coming up Tipping off seven tomorrow. A full
four hour Petro Send Money shows. The Dodgers and Clippers
both have the day off, but the Dodgers will be
(34:07):
back on Friday at three to six show for US
that day as they will be hosting the Texas Rangers,
and we will find our way out to Dodger Stadium
during his homestand as well, I believe we'll be out
there on Monday.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Hartman, You're the best. Thank you very much. Money always
a pleasure. I think the Lakers can win it.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Perfect still feel that way.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
No, they may probably not gonna win another game, but
it sounded good at the time.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Podcasted an hour and a half with Hartman was freaking
great sports talk, great sports talk, Hall of Fame caliber,
Marconi winning production. Thank you, Ronnie, tim Kates. Coming up next,
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