April 8, 2026 • 37 mins
A late start after the Dodgers-Blue Jays game in Toronto. Matt is joined by Steve Hartman today. Great memories and stories from Money and Hartman. Fun Fact: They wrote a book together back in 2009.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Blake not being able to carry cakes to four to
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twenty pm, the Dodgers drop their road finale, likely excited
to get back after a state after a slate of games.
Pardon me in the Eastern time zone had that three
to one lead, That is Tim Kates just detailed David
Vasse get away on the plane back. They'll start a
series against the Rangers from the gallpin Ford broadcast booths
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seven to ten pm on Friday, Petros out today and in.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I think the Lakers can win it.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
The Great State Harmony. Wow, I'm gonna be honest with you, Kates.
As Tim Kates just walked into the studio to hand
us the rundown, I wasn't able.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
To hear postgame Dodger talk, okay, because I was at
the point of Steve's career when Barack Obama had just
been inaugurated. Yes, remember that is that is where we
that is where we got it. I'll never forgets his story.
I hate that day. I was promised a dire Need
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reunion today.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
D y r E Need d y r E one
of the great bands the eight one eight produced. Was
it the eight one eight back then or was it
still the two one three? I don't even think we
had still the eight's back of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
That would be nineteen seventy seven, Doctor David Dyer, Steve
Need on bass, that was what I was, Doctor Need,
David Dyer, that's right. Uh be Paranoid, Bob Heberrit Paranoid
on drums and Evan James on the keyboards. Video Vomit Monkey, Pyromania.
Some of the great songs Steve, Steve Need Steve need On.
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Steve need On bass, that is dire need How how
proficient of a bass player were you? Were you in
lockstep with your drummer? What was the same paranoid I know,
be paranoid on the drums section. Were you guys in
lockstep or was it we actually? Were we? Actually? It
was my first roommate at u c l A. He
and I went to u c l A. Doctor David
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dye Er Evan James are going to U see San
Diego at the time, but we want to see the documentary.
Kids are all right, So I'm watching Whistle play the bass,
arguably the greatest bass player in concrestation, in conversation, and
he was just you know, I tried to emulate what
he did on the base. I could not do that.
I was I was blister on your literally blisters on
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your fingers. No, I wasn't. I was doing the I'm
plucking and literally callouses on the Yeah television late edition
soothing as cocaine. Yeah, oh yeah, I watch. I wasn't
that much. We would drink Old English eight hundreds. It
was just like drinking motor oil. There's always that. I
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don't know what reds do at the bottom of it.
And you know we also would smoke clove cigarettes crett
I mean close yeah, smell. Yeah. High school, there was
a doctor Kranna who had an unusual dilemma. He liked
to set monkeys on fire. Our great song Monkey Pyromania. Okay,
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that was the lyric.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That was the lyrics Here, I am reading some pink
Floyd and who knew I could have been so Kate's
my point being when you and I had the discussion
that you were going to take at the four twenty. Yeah,
Steve was in the midst of some legal issues that
he was facing. Yes, and he'll never forget the day
that he was threatened with legal action because it was
Barack Obama's inauguration in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I should just clarify I said I hate that day.
It wasn't because anything political. It was because I was.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Let go that day by the company.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Look at that when iHeart blew out like nine thousand
people across the countries that day. It was inauguration day.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It was that day I sare in Obama.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I literally get a phone called Boss needs to see
I'm like, oh, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah. They were escorting people out of this building. They
were escorting people out of the Sherman Oaks Fox Sports Studios. Yeah,
one of those days shows you what I know, but
you and patros affected in your twenty year Steve, you're twenty.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
What was the loose cannons? I know, multiple iterations, but
what was the how long was the run?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well? The truth story about you and La, Well, my
first partner at six ninety was brad Cessmatt. So the
idea of that show is he was San Diego, was La.
They were trying to incorporate the LA audience and then
we hired Chep forty, So it was really Hacksaw that
came up with it. So what happened was, you know,
you can't give yourself an a few loose cannons. So
what happened was we were going to calls and we
(05:28):
were on the show before Hacksaw and this guy said, yeah,
I was listening to Hacksaw yesterday and he called you
a couple of loose cannons. We're like, well, we could
be that next caller. Hey, loose cannons. So you can't
give yourself a nickname, right, it has to be good.
So we had one of these consultants that was working.
So by this time it's like a runaway train. Everyone
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would just call him loose Cannons. So this guy is like,
you know, well, I sort of like what I hear
from you guys, But that loose can't lose that. That's
that's not that's not gonna fall best I know.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Never mind, they've never been on the radio once in
their lives.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I think he's managing in a dairy queen. But after
that he was yeah, So that's that was how that
all started.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
All right, ran into Philly Billy when the Eagles were
in town last year. He had mentioned that he was
going to lunch with you, and you shared with me.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
By the way. I got him to pay, which was
a miracle. Right we went to shakesheck. I think he
says the same thing about you. I know, Wellane is
a miracle. I don't know something along it's more about
Philly Billy. So Steve, it is great to have you
money mine, it's great to have you. By the way,
how many people have our book, which came out, by
the way in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I still have I still have three copies. My older
brother has one, my parents have one, and I have one.
I think I have like the same I have one.
When they sent me the last time that the publisher
sent us our I guess it would be kind of
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a revenue statement and it showed like minus five thous
and books. Oh no, no, we still get the statements,
like you know, yeah, I don't get them any more
because I've moved, I believe.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh no, I still get the statement. It basically says
what we owe them. Yeah, yeah, like after our advance. Well,
the problem with that book was it was a lot
of work. Is it's a very good book. It's one
of the great battery reads.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Ult Los Angeles, The Great Book of Los Angeles Sports list.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
We polled, put a lot of work into last thing
we did was we had to list the one hundred greatest.
They didn't have to be born and out with some
tie to Los Angeles. And it really came down to
Korean versus Magic.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I remember the Kareem Magic conversation, and I felt like
it was an easy selection. Yeah with Koreem because of
obviously the domination of UCLA. But yeah, yeah, that was
a good time us kicking around a lot of LA
sports and the photo shoot was horrible.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, hold on, v did that one very it did
that one. They did.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But but I remember they told me to take off
the shoes. They were like, ah, you're on the sand,
take off your shoes. You know, it's an la vibe.
And I look at the cover and I'm like, I'm
in a Laker shooting shirt, a Dodger hat, my feet
are I've got no shoes on. But at least I
wasn't like in a button down and holding a football
or something that.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You mean I had a volleyball in my hand. You
had the flip flops and uh yeah, it wasn't you know.
My hair looked up though. It was like exactly the same, Steve,
I'm doesn't even cut. But it's great to have you.
Hartman's here. Yes, we got ninety minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
We're off at six or just before that because we
have Clippers basketball against the Thunder. Uh we'll get into
what the thunder did in town. But you know, Kate's
handing it off to us.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So look at that.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Kate's has got the photo up on his computer. Am
I right about that?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Kate's?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Am I wearing a Dodger hat and a Laker shooting shirt?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah? Yes you are, and I have no shoes on. No,
Steve's got.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Slides on, like a fancy version of like old man slides.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Are they sandals? Jes Yeah, they're just like slides like
the others lies. Maybe we actually shot very We went
to a couple of locations. That was at the Santa Monica.
That is at the Santa Monica behind.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
The pier kind of by where that lemonade stand is.
There's a set of bleachers. Yes, we shot it there.
I forgot that it was Varion that did that. Yeah,
how did you find that?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Kates? Did you just google? Uh? I'm on Amazon right now.
I would assume how much can you buy that book
for right now?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Paperback? Five dollars and seventy nine? So, Kendall, did you
actually go.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
To the bookstore and see it on when it came out?
I did too. I did. It was very excited and
I took a photo. It was very exciting, and then
we got our first statement and it stopped being exciting
in a hurry because it was a colossal failure. Well
it was. It was dated the day it came out,
you know. It's one of those things. Unfortunately, and by
the way, uh D Max still has not forgiven me
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for that. For what well, I talked about guys that
were great UCLA basketball players one of my lists that
didn't make it in the NBA. I acknowledged that he
was the most improved player, but injuries, which is what
haboed d Mac at the NBA, is not that he
didn't have the talent obviously, and he just absolutely torched
me for that, I bet. Yeah. So yeah, I started murray. Well,
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there was just guys that you know, usually it's kinds
of injuries that they didn't make it at the NBA level.
But yeah, it is a hell of them mine.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
We're a little more positive. But you know, that's the difference.
So we just get handed the Dodger game, yeah, or
the postgame Dodger talk. Dodgers not able to sweep, the
road trip, they lose the final one always hurts most
when the when the folks blow it in the bullpen.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, I mean o Tani, you know he puts six strong.
I mean, he's he's pitching really well right now. But
Dryer came in and just didn't have it. Yeah, But
I think because we have you here and Tim Case
just got done with a sensational Sensational edition of Postgame
Dodger Talk.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I would have loved to have heard it, but I
heard stories about multiple San Diego radio station locations. I
found out that Steve spends a considered bottom of time
at Phoenix. Yes, you should see the studio apartment, all
the mount of amenities and you walk in. It's glorious.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I have friends everywhere, but I love you about all
your cities, the great sports city as well.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Happy to catch up on your kids. That they're all
doing great. That makes it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
As our years. The daughters are doing great.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Drake, Garrett and Paris, that is correct. Still remember their names.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And then I think, because you're here, it's a sad
day in Los Angeles for those that lived in you
know that were sports fans from the mid seventies through
the mid eighties or early eighties, I should say, when
they broke up the infield with some trades as Davey
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Lopes passed away. And I assume that is someone who
had a serious impact on your sporting childhood.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Really did, and you know those were that infield was
together eight and a half years, really the seventy three
through the eighty one. Seasons, and uh, they made a switch.
This is one Walter Olson was still a manager of
the Dodgers. Steve Garvey at third base was he just
honestly was an error machine. He didn't throw the ball accuracy.
So Billy Buckner was actually a first base so they
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wanted to get say, Ron Say into the lineup a
third and so they moved Buckner into the outfield. And
then Davey Lopes had been a longtime minor leaguer. In fact,
he got a cup of coffee at the end of
the seventy two season, made his major league debut aged
twenty seven. So by the time the seventy three season
rolled around, he became the regular second baseman. He's already
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twenty eight years old, and like he's like a twenty
eight year old rookie. And they moved him from the outfield.
They moved Bill Russell from the outfield. So these converted
outfielders are the new middle infield. They moved Garvey to
first base. They bring up the other rookie, Ronsea at third.
It's the longest running infield. That record will never be broken. Obviously,
nine seasons together the exact same infield, and you know,
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you know, they won the Pennant the next year in
seventy four. They got to the World Series again. In
seventy seven, he ate the heartbreaking losses to the Yankees.
What team did you hate the most? Well, well, the
Big Red Machine. You hate the Reds both, but I
mean really was the Reds first, because the Reds, you know,
in their first year together, they actually were leading that
division pretty much till the end. And in fact, my
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dad had gotten his tickets to go so I'll be
fifteen years old to go to a Dodger game late
in that season, but when the Reds overtook him, my
dad had work and we didn't go. So that really
made me hate the Reds. But then the Dodgers got
the best of them, and so be four. By the way,
it's hard to believe you just had the Reds, Yeah,
he said, the Reds. You know, Houston was in the West.
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It was weird, right, and the Reds were in the West.
But the Dodgers beat him out. In seventy four lost
the World Series to the A's, who had won their
third straight World Series. But then the Big Red Machine
really took over seventy five to seventy six, then the
Dodgers got back in top seventy seven to seventy eighty.
So really was those two teams. And the great thing
about Davey Lopes West is that he was able to
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stay around long enough for that great eighty one World
Series where everybody, I think Cosell went on ABC said
that Dodgers literally are worse than every single position. Going
head ahead with the Yankees that year, they lose the
first two games at Yankee Stadium. Come back to Dodgers Stateum,
of course it was Fernando's magical rookie year. They went
three in a row. Ron say, I know we're talking
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to Ron Later he got hit in ahead, he got
hits in. That was Steve Jeger. There was Pedro Guerrero
who was the young star of that team, and obviously Ronsea,
but say took that gotsage, I mean right to the
freaking helmet. But the fact that Davey was able to
stay long enough to be part of that finally World Series.
I remember when they won an eighty one money they
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had won a World Series in sixteen years, So I
know a lot of attention, Rightfley is given to the
eighty eight World Series time yeah, so they lost in
seventy four, lost seventy seven, lost seventy eight, so winning
an eighty one as a Dodger fan, that was my
high school in college years I graduated.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
That was the strike year, so it was like they
took the winner of the first half and the winner
of the second half.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You know. The crazy thing about that year, money was,
is that the Reds that year had the best record
in baseball, but it was the winner of the first
half and the winner of second half, which was the Astros.
Dodgers won the first half, so they had the Dodgers Astros.
It was the first Division series. By the way, they
wouldn't have a Division series again until nineteen ninety five,
but that one year they had to figure out a
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way to piece together two half seasons, and so the
Dodgers played the Astros, then they played the Expos. Are
dear from Rick Monday hitting the game winning home run
top of the ninth and eighty of the deciding Game five,
and then the World Series. They were down in every
one of those series two oh and they won all
three series. Crazy, so they were a team of destiny
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and Davey Lopes, one of my favorite Dodgers. I mean
he was such a catalyst at the top of that
line of stealing bases, setting the table for Garvey and
Reggie Smith and obviously Ron Say and all the other
hitters in the lineup. Bill Russell would hit behind David
a great hit run guy. But Davey Lops was a captain.
I mean he was. He was really a catalyst on
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those Dodger teams.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
What you know, it's interesting when you think about that
infield and how you're you're talking about Steve Garvey should
be in the Hall of Fame. Ten time All Star.
That's ridiculous. Ron Say probably what six? I think six,
because we're happening. He's going to join us. By the way,
Ron's gonna join us in an hour. So I already
looked up it. So Ron was six, Billy Russell I
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think was three, Yes, Davey Lopes was fourn Maybe Lops
was four in a row. Yeah, and started and started
three of those All Star games. So you're talking about whatever,
twenty to twenty five something All Star games between the infield.
What Jersey did you see more than any other in
the stance when you went to a Dodger game.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Well, I mean Garvey was it was Gary? It was
Garvey six, I mean, yeah, I mean Garv done. What
about behind?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Was it say? Was it Lopes? Was it Russell? Who
would be next? A?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Probably the penguin, I would say, you know it was
it was different. You didn't have as many I want
to quite a few dogs. The best way to ask
favorite player. It's like you could pick any of those
four guys as your favorite player, and your friends wouldn't
give you the business for being like, you're kidding me.
You like Say more than Garby, you like Lopes more
than Say. You couldn't separate the money. That was the
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whole point. It was Garvey, Lopes, Russell say. I mean
it was like their names were linked, right, so you
just and they just sort of rolled right, you know, Garvey, Lopes,
Russell say right. And so really they were known together
because they were together so long, so you never really
spoke about one without the other. It was really I mean,
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Garvey obviously was the star of that group. His absence
from the Hall of Fame is just by the way.
In our book, I have a whole chapter about Garvey.
Lot of Amazon thirteen cents. If you have not bought
this book. Yet you need to buy this play down
if you can get it for six bucks. It's the
best bathroom reading you'll ever have it. Yes, and it's
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so outdated already. That's okay, that's okay. Well I'll bring
you back to a certain time. But no, I mean
when you when you think about Davy Loops, you have
to link him. It's great, we're gonna have Penguin on.
But you know, Bill Russell, Steve Garvey again, Garvey loves Russell. Say,
that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, And obviously, uh it was. It's it's he was eighty.
Sad that he's passed away. But the fact that they're
all still going strong, you know, obviously Loop's the first
one to pass away. We see Garvey out at the
stadium quite a Weea, he looks great.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I see Penguin. I you know, I was covering a
little more Dodger Stadium stuff television wise a few years ago.
I'd always see Ron Say out there all the time.
And we had a Woodland Hills connection. Well, you have
a Woodland Hills I.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Lived in Woodland Hills for three and a half years.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So he always lived in Woodland Hills.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
My parents were the degree summers. You know what, I
don't want to live here anymore. This is not for me.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
We moved there. My dad loved heat. We had no
air conditioning for the first seven years. That's insanity. Can
you imagine? So, of course, I'm a kid, so I
don't know any better. I just assume the entire summers
we had no air conditioning for the first seven years
we lived in with hills. Yeah, my dad would say,
open a window. I'm like, open a window, more hot
air in. But I didn't. I would literally I can
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remember as a kid in my room, I would literally
just sit on top of the sheet. I could not
put a cover of My dad was in the heat.
How do you not have any like that? You know
what happened? My grandmother, my mom's mom, my grandmother had
to move in with us. She bought the air condition Well, yeah,
she would have died if exactly. So that's how we.
My dad finally succumbed and said, fine, Well say that
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for a fact.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean she was too old to live through one
hundred and twenty degree days in the summer.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's not I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Now, look, I think temperatures obviously have gotten considerably warmer,
but I would I assume back then it was still
one hundred and ten plus.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Oh yeah, well, I went to Taft High School out
in the valley. I can remember we did. I played
one year if I was a tackling dummy on the
beef football team, literally and we did two a days
first week in the summer in August and could not
take our helmets off full uniform. About that. Kids, they
wouldn't even allow this. They would arrest the coaches on
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site if they would try to put kids through that ordeal.
But that's it was. Some guys did I didn't. I
weighed one hundred and thirty three pounds. I mean that
was like, you know, lie, No, I was literally the
I never suited up for a game. I was a
tackling dummy. I refused to quit the team, you know,
I just I hung in there the entire year, never
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got a uniform, and I would be practiced. They would
just stick me wherever, you know, say anything else. No,
that was the that was the only Basketball was my
favorite sport. But they they it was like you know
how it is, you go to high school and they
already have it predetermined who's going to be on the team.
Because the Woodland Hills kids. I was like from the
poor side. So all these Ino and Tarzana kids were there.
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I should have gone to El Camino, but somehow they
drew the line where I m up tafft and so
I said, screw it. I'm going to try football, which
is ridiculous. Dates.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
With the Olympics coming up in twenty twenty eight, maybe
a good time for you guys to revisit an updated
version of your book and maybe a little voice on tape,
a little uh.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Oh, little kindle act yeah or audible have you what's called? Yeah? Yeah,
maybe think about this. We we divided the book. Is
what we did was you you took to certain sports.
I took certain sports. H I think we just took.
We had to come up with like one hundred lists.
We had a one hundred lists and we and we
had to get celebrity lists, so we also had to
find celebrities to put the list. We put a lot
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of books, and the book is a really good book.
I would disagree you didn't like the book. I did
not like that it was such a colossal failure. Well,
I mean, but that was an argantuan failure. I think
because I had to run point with the publisher and
I had to hear. I had to take the calls
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of him screaming, are you even promoting this? Are you
talking about it on your radio shows? I've already got
audition three coming out for volume three coming out for Philadelphia.
Well that's what the first one had started in Philadelphia.
And I and my argument to him was, Philadelphia sports
fans are different than LA sports fans. Period. It was
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it was a positive experience working with you. It was
a negative experience. They're looking for you, yes, feeling how
and I don't remember what our advance was. I think
it was five gess apiece. We actually got five each
when we started in five each when tally, yeah, they
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might have made back five hundred bucks. Well if we
can link up to h buying them all there. Yeah.
By the way, every every review I ever saw was
five stars. People enjoyed it. They did people enjoyed it. It
was a negative experience, all right. We got to get
our word number song, we got to get our top story.
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We got ron say calling in dead and alive. So
we're going till six.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It is great to have Steve Hartman here as we
talk about all things, Steve Hartman.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Number word song got Look. The Masters is one of
my favorite events of the year, but we have an
especially interesting storyline surrounding the year's Masters. We'll share that
with you and the number the day. We'll do all
that next.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
This is Petro send.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Money on demand, demand.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And a midday show, says Steve Hartman. Yes, you need
a midday show. Yes, I love my mid days. The
loose Cannons, long run, the hell of a run. We're
on our twentieth year. It seems like you just got here.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
By the way. Uh now I know this. I don't
know if I can share this, but I'm going to
anyway because you know me. So when you first came
to our station two thousand and five, the reason you
came to our station is that we were the Laker stages.
I was hired and you are. When you went to Pepperdine,
(24:33):
I did, migrated out from Chicago and you come to and.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
You just nineteen ninety one, you were a Laker diehard.
I took my first job. I had two offers from
two separate record labels, and as a signing bonus, I
requested Laker season tickets right.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So as you were making in the business obviously and
working with Kevin and being the whole shebang, the opportunity
to be part of the Laker broadcast dream come true.
It was a dream come true. So that was your
main draws to come here. I, uh, yes, I didn't
even think about the fact that. Truly, I did not
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think that having an afternoon show was like the bigger
piece of it. Yes, for me, it was just, hey, dude,
I'm gonna be on the Laker broadcast and I'm going
to figure out a way to work my way up
from pre half and post to play by play. And
that's ultimately when I had set my sights on it.
I was like, Yeah, whatever you want me to do afternoon,
I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You want to put me with Joe grunnit great, whatever,
find whoever you want to put them in that chair.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I can talk. It's not a problem. We'll do that.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But but what's the you give me the details on
the Lakers. Yes, you're absolutely right, that is exactly you know.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
When I think about that, and I just remember time.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
In LA and I didn't even think, truly, I was like, whatever,
I don't know, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
When we're in Boston for the NBA Finals in two
thousand and eight. I remember we're all hanging out the pubs, Carrie,
and you're just getting loaded up, and it was just
I mean, being at TV Garden game one. Oh, man,
you're supposed to babysit, vic you away, and you got
upset on me because James Taylor came and I'm like
(26:13):
j T, and You're like, have a conversation. You're like,
why are you calling him? Ja? That's what they called
mister Taylor.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
The first question you asked him was, hey, man, are
you freaking out?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Are you nervous? This is the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I believe his response was in a very as you
would imagine James Taylor, soft spoken way. Yeah, well, I
have sung the national anthem many times here at the Garden,
at the Boston Garden, and I've played shows in front
of one hundred thousand people before, so I think I'll
(26:52):
be able to manage this.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Beautiful You're freaking out, man, how bet you're freaking out? Taylor?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Oh, it was so great to witness that. And I'll
tell you the highlight of that, and look the trip
in itself with all of us there and hanging out
at the Boston what was the name of our It
was a historic hotel that we still was, and the
inventor of the Boston cream Pie was the bakery in
the bottom that we all ate. But what I'll always
(27:25):
remember from that trip I had been part of the
Laker broadcast now five six oh six oh seven, so
it was my second year. First year, they should have
knocked off the Suns, but blew that three to one
series lead. Freaking Tim Thomas and that unbelievable that that
shot earned him an eighty million dollar contract. But what
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I'll always remember about that final is, I want to
say it was the start of the second half. It's
the NBA Finals. It's game one, very back and forth affair,
and I think we were probably somewhere around the nine
and a half minute mark when Spiro turned off his
(28:09):
microphone and said to Michael Thompson, you know, this is
the NBA Finals, and you haven't said a word for
two and a half minutes, and you've been eating that effing.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Popcorn non stuff. Michael had gone two and a half minutes. Oh,
the popcorn ear is so good. I can't get enough
of it, Mamon. Yeah, Spiro had to turn his mic
off and say, will you quit eating the popcorn? This
is the NBA Finals. Well, my first year working with
(28:43):
Michael was the four Finals when we went to longest
week of my life in Detroit. Yeah, so, you know,
we think we're gonna blow out the Pistons. I mean,
come on, the Laker's gonna blow out the Pistol Pistons
and they win the first game, you know, over at
Staples and then Kobe hits the game when he shot
and too. So we go back to Detroit. We're talking
to Kobe. We'll be fly blah blah blah blah. Michael
(29:05):
is staying with the Lakers. Station has me. They said
it a whole I was in a motel motel with
a candy machine, right. But my favorite about Michael was
he flies in his two youngest sons, fourteen year old
Clay and thirteen year old Trace. They were still living
in Portland because they had to finish the school year
(29:27):
before they moved to LA And he flies them to
Detroit and we had an off day to go to
Camerica Park to see the Tigers play, then in a
league game with the Marlins. So it's all planned. So
they flew out with their uncle. And now it's the
day of the game. We don't every rate. It's a week,
it's like a Sunday. Michael calls me. He goes, I
(29:48):
really don't want to go? Can you take the boys
of the game. I'm like, I don't want to go
to the game. I'm like, well, wait to say you
fly your boys out here. And this is a true
story that sounds checks out. So the uncle and I
took the boys to the game.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
We had great work for the NBA. NBA TV. Yeah
the television guy. Yes, Michael's brother, the nicest guy in
the world.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, great guy. So anyway, two years ago, I uh,
I went to Dodger spring training first time after I
got vass A all nervous. I don't know why he
was so nervous. He goes, why are you following me around?
I said, I just wanted to hang out. You know,
I'm not doing any but hanging out. And we walk
into the Dodger clubhouse and there's Trace Thompson. He looks
(30:31):
right at me, mister hart I'm like to mister Hartman,
and he knew it too. He remembered every good detail
of that game years old. Every detail the life. It
was unbelievable. I was like that, So yeah, so the.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Uh, we're gonna have to push the word number song
to the next segment. But I do want to share
because we often tell this story without you as we're
just this is just a a reminisce with Steve Hartman,
because there's a many great stories that we've that we've
experienced with Steve. He was a joy to be on
the road with and in the office with every day.
But when we would hit the road, we would you know,
(31:09):
get after it a little. Oh yeah, same experience two
thousand and eight run when they when they we are
the two thousand and nine season, when they win the title,
we have to go through Utah. I think it was
the conference semis right, because I think the conference this
was actually two thousand and eight, so this was yeah,
this was this is the VIC story. Yeah, yeah, two
(31:31):
thousand and eight, and I wanted, I want as we
went to Denver, went to Utah, went to sant Antela.
The so Utah is this conference Semi's Denver first round,
knocked him out second round Utah. I'm staying at the
Grand American, the finest hotel in all of Salt Lake
because I'm with the team. You're staying at the Little
American across the street. Petrose me Vic, which and Michael
(31:53):
Thompson and I are across the street at the Grand American,
which Don Martin.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Said is just like the other one. Guys, it's like
the same hotel. It's just across the street. They got
the Grand American. It's got like four extra floors, and
then they got Little American and it's just like a
two store, you know, it's just like a small or
more quaint version.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, it was a motor in you know, it's one
where you parked and then you walked out of your
car and you walked in the front door of your
motel kind of thing. But why don't you talk us
through what you remember the day you departed Utah and
what was supposed to happen and what did happen?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well, usually what would happen When I'm traveling, especially at
that time, I have to be the someone has to
be in charge, Okay, I I you know, I in
charge you mean in charge of I mean p was
a kid, right, I mean he's gonna sort of do
the pe thing, right, sure? And Vic, I mean I
could literally I could write a book on traveling with
Vic the brick. Okay. So anyway, we had a time
(32:47):
that we had to get up because we had to
go do the radio show. You had to do a
radio show. So Vic doesn't show up in the lobby
in the law You've got the Renolds car. So we're
we're calling Vic's room and there's no answer.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
At any point. Are you concerned for his health or no?
You just know that he's.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You know what I at that point, honestly, in my mind,
having roomed with Vic on the road, I was the
one guy that said he's there. They're like, Sir, he's
not there. We've called many times, We've knocked on the door.
I said, no, I'm telling you he's in that room.
I'm telling you I know he is in that room.
The room. So he walked to the room and at
(33:30):
this point I am like, I'm not knocking, I am
pounding on the door. That's Vic, come to the door.
What time is it? Is it six am? No? It was.
It was fairly early, but not that early.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Again, this is a motor in you're talking about every
room faces the parking lot, and everyone's.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Looking at me like he's not there. I'm telling you,
he's there banging on the door. All of a sudden,
there's like a little curtain. I see the curtain move
a little bit, and then he opens the door. Everyone
was like stun like they've seen a ghost. I couldn't
believe it. Do you remember what he's wearing? Like a
night shirt? Right, it's something like that, I go, Vic,
(34:12):
do you remember, because Petros remembers vividly, he says, there
is a line that you screamed at him. Do you
remember what It was? Probably something like we we got
to go something like, uh, you blew it, you blew
it exactly. Well, we also had that in Boston. You
you didn't, you missed all those So Sharon belly Oh,
by the way, I saw Sharon here today, you know.
(34:33):
So Sharon was Sharon p me and Vic and we're
traveling to Boston, and we got a hotel room because
you were traveling with the team. So we had in Connecticut,
like we had a room to sleep for like four hours.
It was a weird thing where we took a red
eye and done said my man, well we'll get you
like a hotel so you can get a little sleep.
(34:55):
So I'm when telling the guy at the desk, look,
we have a we got to have this wake up call.
So they sort of hit the hay and all of
a sudden, I look up at the clock. It's like
twenty minutes pass of wake up. I get up. I go.
There's people in the lobby and I'm just dropping out
boats you blew it and I'm dropping f Box and
Pe and Sharon and Vicker just looking at me like dude,
(35:18):
and I'm like screaming in the nightmare with you. Oh.
And then we had to pick up the credentials right
and there was no parking, and I'm like, screw this,
We're triple parking. We got to get we have to
get the credentials. We got to get in because all
this is the same day.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Was it Sharon Bell that was navigating with the map
or was Vic trying to navigate?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I think it was. I mean I was driving, yeah,
so that I knew. Yeah, I was driving, and I
and I had driven. Driving in Boston's a night because
it's a series of one way streets. It's an old city,
wasn't built for cars. It's the worst. It's really the worst.
When you're a downtown Boston. You could go in a
circle forever. So but you know what survived. But you
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will relaxed because you know you're traveling big time with
the team. You know s.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Cargo, caviare, champagne, sees beers. I'll tell you man, that
was Lamar odom knew how to take care of people.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Lamar.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
He was the host with the most everywhere we went Lamar,
everybody was all right, what do you want for the flight?
What do you like to I'm like, I don't drink
some beer?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Is a rice cake? He's like, I think about that.
You're playing in the NBA playoffs and you're like, what
do you like to drink? On playing? What do you
you want to? You want beers? What do you want
me to buy? Him like, hey, buy whatever, I don't care.
Come on, man, tell me how did Petro survive that trip?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
We had a good time, man. We walked the Freedom Trail. Yeah,
walked the Freedom Trail. Chrispus atticist Steve.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
There was a place we walked into a potatic They said,
this is the only place where you can drink of
Sam Adams and his grave is across the street. Yeah,
come on to are live good stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Smoking cigarettes, drinking beers, staying out till five am. Alright,
word number song when we return h
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Blake not being able to carry cakes to four to
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twenty pm, the Dodgers drop their road finale, likely excited
to get back after a state after a slate of games.
Pardon me in the Eastern time zone had that three
to one lead, That is Tim Kates just detailed David
Vasse get away on the plane back. They'll start a
series against the Rangers from the gallpin Ford broadcast booths
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seven to ten pm on Friday, Petros out today and in.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I think the Lakers can win it.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
The Great State Harmony. Wow, I'm gonna be honest with you, Kates.
As Tim Kates just walked into the studio to hand
us the rundown, I wasn't able.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
To hear postgame Dodger talk, okay, because I was at
the point of Steve's career when Barack Obama had just
been inaugurated. Yes, remember that is that is where we
that is where we got it. I'll never forgets his story.
I hate that day. I was promised a dire Need
(02:04):
reunion today.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
D y r E Need d y r E one
of the great bands the eight one eight produced. Was
it the eight one eight back then or was it
still the two one three? I don't even think we
had still the eight's back of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
That would be nineteen seventy seven, Doctor David Dyer, Steve
Need on bass, that was what I was, Doctor Need,
David Dyer, that's right. Uh be Paranoid, Bob Heberrit Paranoid
on drums and Evan James on the keyboards. Video Vomit Monkey, Pyromania.
Some of the great songs Steve, Steve Need Steve need On.
(02:41):
Steve need On bass, that is dire need How how
proficient of a bass player were you? Were you in
lockstep with your drummer? What was the same paranoid I know,
be paranoid on the drums section. Were you guys in
lockstep or was it we actually? Were we? Actually? It
was my first roommate at u c l A. He
and I went to u c l A. Doctor David
(03:02):
dye Er Evan James are going to U see San
Diego at the time, but we want to see the documentary.
Kids are all right, So I'm watching Whistle play the bass,
arguably the greatest bass player in concrestation, in conversation, and
he was just you know, I tried to emulate what
he did on the base. I could not do that.
I was I was blister on your literally blisters on
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your fingers. No, I wasn't. I was doing the I'm
plucking and literally callouses on the Yeah television late edition
soothing as cocaine. Yeah, oh yeah, I watch. I wasn't
that much. We would drink Old English eight hundreds. It
was just like drinking motor oil. There's always that. I
(03:46):
don't know what reds do at the bottom of it.
And you know we also would smoke clove cigarettes crett
I mean close yeah, smell. Yeah. High school, there was
a doctor Kranna who had an unusual dilemma. He liked
to set monkeys on fire. Our great song Monkey Pyromania. Okay,
(04:10):
that was the lyric.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That was the lyrics Here, I am reading some pink
Floyd and who knew I could have been so Kate's
my point being when you and I had the discussion
that you were going to take at the four twenty. Yeah,
Steve was in the midst of some legal issues that
he was facing. Yes, and he'll never forget the day
that he was threatened with legal action because it was
Barack Obama's inauguration in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I should just clarify I said I hate that day.
It wasn't because anything political. It was because I was.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Let go that day by the company.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Look at that when iHeart blew out like nine thousand
people across the countries that day. It was inauguration day.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It was that day I sare in Obama.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I literally get a phone called Boss needs to see
I'm like, oh, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah. They were escorting people out of this building. They
were escorting people out of the Sherman Oaks Fox Sports Studios. Yeah,
one of those days shows you what I know, but
you and patros affected in your twenty year Steve, you're twenty.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
What was the loose cannons? I know, multiple iterations, but
what was the how long was the run?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well? The truth story about you and La, Well, my
first partner at six ninety was brad Cessmatt. So the
idea of that show is he was San Diego, was La.
They were trying to incorporate the LA audience and then
we hired Chep forty, So it was really Hacksaw that
came up with it. So what happened was, you know,
you can't give yourself an a few loose cannons. So
what happened was we were going to calls and we
(05:28):
were on the show before Hacksaw and this guy said, yeah,
I was listening to Hacksaw yesterday and he called you
a couple of loose cannons. We're like, well, we could
be that next caller. Hey, loose cannons. So you can't
give yourself a nickname, right, it has to be good.
So we had one of these consultants that was working.
So by this time it's like a runaway train. Everyone
(05:49):
would just call him loose Cannons. So this guy is like,
you know, well, I sort of like what I hear
from you guys, But that loose can't lose that. That's
that's not that's not gonna fall best I know.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Never mind, they've never been on the radio once in
their lives.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I think he's managing in a dairy queen. But after
that he was yeah, So that's that was how that
all started.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
All right, ran into Philly Billy when the Eagles were
in town last year. He had mentioned that he was
going to lunch with you, and you shared with me.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
By the way. I got him to pay, which was
a miracle. Right we went to shakesheck. I think he
says the same thing about you. I know, Wellane is
a miracle. I don't know something along it's more about
Philly Billy. So Steve, it is great to have you
money mine, it's great to have you. By the way,
how many people have our book, which came out, by
the way in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I still have I still have three copies. My older
brother has one, my parents have one, and I have one.
I think I have like the same I have one.
When they sent me the last time that the publisher
sent us our I guess it would be kind of
(06:55):
a revenue statement and it showed like minus five thous
and books. Oh no, no, we still get the statements,
like you know, yeah, I don't get them any more
because I've moved, I believe.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Oh no, I still get the statement. It basically says
what we owe them. Yeah, yeah, like after our advance. Well,
the problem with that book was it was a lot
of work. Is it's a very good book. It's one
of the great battery reads.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Ult Los Angeles, The Great Book of Los Angeles Sports list.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
We polled, put a lot of work into last thing
we did was we had to list the one hundred greatest.
They didn't have to be born and out with some
tie to Los Angeles. And it really came down to
Korean versus Magic.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I remember the Kareem Magic conversation, and I felt like
it was an easy selection. Yeah with Koreem because of
obviously the domination of UCLA. But yeah, yeah, that was
a good time us kicking around a lot of LA
sports and the photo shoot was horrible.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, hold on, v did that one very it did
that one. They did.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But but I remember they told me to take off
the shoes. They were like, ah, you're on the sand,
take off your shoes. You know, it's an la vibe.
And I look at the cover and I'm like, I'm
in a Laker shooting shirt, a Dodger hat, my feet
are I've got no shoes on. But at least I
wasn't like in a button down and holding a football
or something that.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You mean I had a volleyball in my hand. You
had the flip flops and uh yeah, it wasn't you know.
My hair looked up though. It was like exactly the same, Steve,
I'm doesn't even cut. But it's great to have you.
Hartman's here. Yes, we got ninety minutes.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
We're off at six or just before that because we
have Clippers basketball against the Thunder. Uh we'll get into
what the thunder did in town. But you know, Kate's
handing it off to us.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So look at that.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Kate's has got the photo up on his computer. Am
I right about that?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Kate's?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Am I wearing a Dodger hat and a Laker shooting shirt?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah? Yes you are, and I have no shoes on. No,
Steve's got.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Slides on, like a fancy version of like old man slides.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Are they sandals? Jes Yeah, they're just like slides like
the others lies. Maybe we actually shot very We went
to a couple of locations. That was at the Santa Monica.
That is at the Santa Monica behind.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
The pier kind of by where that lemonade stand is.
There's a set of bleachers. Yes, we shot it there.
I forgot that it was Varion that did that. Yeah,
how did you find that?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Kates? Did you just google? Uh? I'm on Amazon right now.
I would assume how much can you buy that book
for right now?
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Paperback? Five dollars and seventy nine? So, Kendall, did you
actually go.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
To the bookstore and see it on when it came out?
I did too. I did. It was very excited and
I took a photo. It was very exciting, and then
we got our first statement and it stopped being exciting
in a hurry because it was a colossal failure. Well
it was. It was dated the day it came out,
you know. It's one of those things. Unfortunately, and by
the way, uh D Max still has not forgiven me
(09:51):
for that. For what well, I talked about guys that
were great UCLA basketball players one of my lists that
didn't make it in the NBA. I acknowledged that he
was the most improved player, but injuries, which is what
haboed d Mac at the NBA, is not that he
didn't have the talent obviously, and he just absolutely torched
me for that, I bet. Yeah. So yeah, I started murray. Well,
(10:14):
there was just guys that you know, usually it's kinds
of injuries that they didn't make it at the NBA level.
But yeah, it is a hell of them mine.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
We're a little more positive. But you know, that's the difference.
So we just get handed the Dodger game, yeah, or
the postgame Dodger talk. Dodgers not able to sweep, the
road trip, they lose the final one always hurts most
when the when the folks blow it in the bullpen.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, I mean o Tani, you know he puts six strong.
I mean, he's he's pitching really well right now. But
Dryer came in and just didn't have it. Yeah, But
I think because we have you here and Tim Case
just got done with a sensational Sensational edition of Postgame
Dodger Talk.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I would have loved to have heard it, but I
heard stories about multiple San Diego radio station locations. I
found out that Steve spends a considered bottom of time
at Phoenix. Yes, you should see the studio apartment, all
the mount of amenities and you walk in. It's glorious.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I have friends everywhere, but I love you about all
your cities, the great sports city as well.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Happy to catch up on your kids. That they're all
doing great. That makes it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
As our years. The daughters are doing great.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Drake, Garrett and Paris, that is correct. Still remember their names.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And then I think, because you're here, it's a sad
day in Los Angeles for those that lived in you
know that were sports fans from the mid seventies through
the mid eighties or early eighties, I should say, when
they broke up the infield with some trades as Davey
(11:43):
Lopes passed away. And I assume that is someone who
had a serious impact on your sporting childhood.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Really did, and you know those were that infield was
together eight and a half years, really the seventy three
through the eighty one. Seasons, and uh, they made a switch.
This is one Walter Olson was still a manager of
the Dodgers. Steve Garvey at third base was he just
honestly was an error machine. He didn't throw the ball accuracy.
So Billy Buckner was actually a first base so they
(12:12):
wanted to get say, Ron Say into the lineup a
third and so they moved Buckner into the outfield. And
then Davey Lopes had been a longtime minor leaguer. In fact,
he got a cup of coffee at the end of
the seventy two season, made his major league debut aged
twenty seven. So by the time the seventy three season
rolled around, he became the regular second baseman. He's already
(12:32):
twenty eight years old, and like he's like a twenty
eight year old rookie. And they moved him from the outfield.
They moved Bill Russell from the outfield. So these converted
outfielders are the new middle infield. They moved Garvey to
first base. They bring up the other rookie, Ronsea at third.
It's the longest running infield. That record will never be broken. Obviously,
nine seasons together the exact same infield, and you know,
(12:55):
you know, they won the Pennant the next year in
seventy four. They got to the World Series again. In
seventy seven, he ate the heartbreaking losses to the Yankees.
What team did you hate the most? Well, well, the
Big Red Machine. You hate the Reds both, but I
mean really was the Reds first, because the Reds, you know,
in their first year together, they actually were leading that
division pretty much till the end. And in fact, my
(13:18):
dad had gotten his tickets to go so I'll be
fifteen years old to go to a Dodger game late
in that season, but when the Reds overtook him, my
dad had work and we didn't go. So that really
made me hate the Reds. But then the Dodgers got
the best of them, and so be four. By the way,
it's hard to believe you just had the Reds, Yeah,
he said, the Reds. You know, Houston was in the West.
(13:39):
It was weird, right, and the Reds were in the West.
But the Dodgers beat him out. In seventy four lost
the World Series to the A's, who had won their
third straight World Series. But then the Big Red Machine
really took over seventy five to seventy six, then the
Dodgers got back in top seventy seven to seventy eighty.
So really was those two teams. And the great thing
about Davey Lopes West is that he was able to
(14:00):
stay around long enough for that great eighty one World
Series where everybody, I think Cosell went on ABC said
that Dodgers literally are worse than every single position. Going
head ahead with the Yankees that year, they lose the
first two games at Yankee Stadium. Come back to Dodgers Stateum,
of course it was Fernando's magical rookie year. They went
three in a row. Ron say, I know we're talking
(14:22):
to Ron Later he got hit in ahead, he got
hits in. That was Steve Jeger. There was Pedro Guerrero
who was the young star of that team, and obviously Ronsea,
but say took that gotsage, I mean right to the
freaking helmet. But the fact that Davey was able to
stay long enough to be part of that finally World Series.
I remember when they won an eighty one money they
(14:44):
had won a World Series in sixteen years, So I
know a lot of attention, Rightfley is given to the
eighty eight World Series time yeah, so they lost in
seventy four, lost seventy seven, lost seventy eight, so winning
an eighty one as a Dodger fan, that was my
high school in college years I graduated.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
That was the strike year, so it was like they
took the winner of the first half and the winner
of the second half.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
You know. The crazy thing about that year, money was,
is that the Reds that year had the best record
in baseball, but it was the winner of the first
half and the winner of second half, which was the Astros.
Dodgers won the first half, so they had the Dodgers Astros.
It was the first Division series. By the way, they
wouldn't have a Division series again until nineteen ninety five,
but that one year they had to figure out a
(15:27):
way to piece together two half seasons, and so the
Dodgers played the Astros, then they played the Expos. Are
dear from Rick Monday hitting the game winning home run
top of the ninth and eighty of the deciding Game five,
and then the World Series. They were down in every
one of those series two oh and they won all
three series. Crazy, so they were a team of destiny
(15:47):
and Davey Lopes, one of my favorite Dodgers. I mean
he was such a catalyst at the top of that
line of stealing bases, setting the table for Garvey and
Reggie Smith and obviously Ron Say and all the other
hitters in the lineup. Bill Russell would hit behind David
a great hit run guy. But Davey Lops was a captain.
I mean he was. He was really a catalyst on
(16:09):
those Dodger teams.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
What you know, it's interesting when you think about that
infield and how you're you're talking about Steve Garvey should
be in the Hall of Fame. Ten time All Star.
That's ridiculous. Ron Say probably what six? I think six,
because we're happening. He's going to join us. By the way,
Ron's gonna join us in an hour. So I already
looked up it. So Ron was six, Billy Russell I
(16:32):
think was three, Yes, Davey Lopes was fourn Maybe Lops
was four in a row. Yeah, and started and started
three of those All Star games. So you're talking about whatever,
twenty to twenty five something All Star games between the infield.
What Jersey did you see more than any other in
the stance when you went to a Dodger game.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Well, I mean Garvey was it was Gary? It was
Garvey six, I mean, yeah, I mean Garv done. What
about behind?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Was it say? Was it Lopes? Was it Russell? Who
would be next? A?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Probably the penguin, I would say, you know it was
it was different. You didn't have as many I want
to quite a few dogs. The best way to ask
favorite player. It's like you could pick any of those
four guys as your favorite player, and your friends wouldn't
give you the business for being like, you're kidding me.
You like Say more than Garby, you like Lopes more
than Say. You couldn't separate the money. That was the
(17:27):
whole point. It was Garvey, Lopes, Russell say. I mean
it was like their names were linked, right, so you
just and they just sort of rolled right, you know, Garvey, Lopes,
Russell say right. And so really they were known together
because they were together so long, so you never really
spoke about one without the other. It was really I mean,
(17:48):
Garvey obviously was the star of that group. His absence
from the Hall of Fame is just by the way.
In our book, I have a whole chapter about Garvey.
Lot of Amazon thirteen cents. If you have not bought
this book. Yet you need to buy this play down
if you can get it for six bucks. It's the
best bathroom reading you'll ever have it. Yes, and it's
(18:09):
so outdated already. That's okay, that's okay. Well I'll bring
you back to a certain time. But no, I mean
when you when you think about Davy Loops, you have
to link him. It's great, we're gonna have Penguin on.
But you know, Bill Russell, Steve Garvey again, Garvey loves Russell. Say,
that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, And obviously, uh it was. It's it's he was eighty.
Sad that he's passed away. But the fact that they're
all still going strong, you know, obviously Loop's the first
one to pass away. We see Garvey out at the
stadium quite a Weea, he looks great.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I see Penguin. I you know, I was covering a
little more Dodger Stadium stuff television wise a few years ago.
I'd always see Ron Say out there all the time.
And we had a Woodland Hills connection. Well, you have
a Woodland Hills I.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Lived in Woodland Hills for three and a half years.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So he always lived in Woodland Hills.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
My parents were the degree summers. You know what, I
don't want to live here anymore. This is not for me.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
We moved there. My dad loved heat. We had no
air conditioning for the first seven years. That's insanity. Can
you imagine? So, of course, I'm a kid, so I
don't know any better. I just assume the entire summers
we had no air conditioning for the first seven years
we lived in with hills. Yeah, my dad would say,
open a window. I'm like, open a window, more hot
air in. But I didn't. I would literally I can
(19:25):
remember as a kid in my room, I would literally
just sit on top of the sheet. I could not
put a cover of My dad was in the heat.
How do you not have any like that? You know
what happened? My grandmother, my mom's mom, my grandmother had
to move in with us. She bought the air condition Well, yeah,
she would have died if exactly. So that's how we.
My dad finally succumbed and said, fine, Well say that
(19:47):
for a fact.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean she was too old to live through one
hundred and twenty degree days in the summer.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's not I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Now, look, I think temperatures obviously have gotten considerably warmer,
but I would I assume back then it was still
one hundred and ten plus.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Oh yeah, well, I went to Taft High School out
in the valley. I can remember we did. I played
one year if I was a tackling dummy on the
beef football team, literally and we did two a days
first week in the summer in August and could not
take our helmets off full uniform. About that. Kids, they
wouldn't even allow this. They would arrest the coaches on
(20:24):
site if they would try to put kids through that ordeal.
But that's it was. Some guys did I didn't. I
weighed one hundred and thirty three pounds. I mean that
was like, you know, lie, No, I was literally the
I never suited up for a game. I was a
tackling dummy. I refused to quit the team, you know,
I just I hung in there the entire year, never
(20:46):
got a uniform, and I would be practiced. They would
just stick me wherever, you know, say anything else. No,
that was the that was the only Basketball was my
favorite sport. But they they it was like you know
how it is, you go to high school and they
already have it predetermined who's going to be on the team.
Because the Woodland Hills kids. I was like from the
poor side. So all these Ino and Tarzana kids were there.
(21:11):
I should have gone to El Camino, but somehow they
drew the line where I m up tafft and so
I said, screw it. I'm going to try football, which
is ridiculous. Dates.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
With the Olympics coming up in twenty twenty eight, maybe
a good time for you guys to revisit an updated
version of your book and maybe a little voice on tape,
a little uh.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Oh, little kindle act yeah or audible have you what's called? Yeah? Yeah,
maybe think about this. We we divided the book. Is
what we did was you you took to certain sports.
I took certain sports. H I think we just took.
We had to come up with like one hundred lists.
We had a one hundred lists and we and we
had to get celebrity lists, so we also had to
find celebrities to put the list. We put a lot
(21:52):
of books, and the book is a really good book.
I would disagree you didn't like the book. I did
not like that it was such a colossal failure. Well,
I mean, but that was an argantuan failure. I think
because I had to run point with the publisher and
I had to hear. I had to take the calls
(22:13):
of him screaming, are you even promoting this? Are you
talking about it on your radio shows? I've already got
audition three coming out for volume three coming out for Philadelphia.
Well that's what the first one had started in Philadelphia.
And I and my argument to him was, Philadelphia sports
fans are different than LA sports fans. Period. It was
(22:33):
it was a positive experience working with you. It was
a negative experience. They're looking for you, yes, feeling how
and I don't remember what our advance was. I think
it was five gess apiece. We actually got five each
when we started in five each when tally, yeah, they
(22:54):
might have made back five hundred bucks. Well if we
can link up to h buying them all there. Yeah.
By the way, every every review I ever saw was
five stars. People enjoyed it. They did people enjoyed it. It
was a negative experience, all right. We got to get
our word number song, we got to get our top story.
(23:16):
We got ron say calling in dead and alive. So
we're going till six.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It is great to have Steve Hartman here as we
talk about all things, Steve Hartman.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Number word song got Look. The Masters is one of
my favorite events of the year, but we have an
especially interesting storyline surrounding the year's Masters. We'll share that
with you and the number the day. We'll do all
that next.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
This is Petro send.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Money on demand, demand.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And a midday show, says Steve Hartman. Yes, you need
a midday show. Yes, I love my mid days. The
loose Cannons, long run, the hell of a run. We're
on our twentieth year. It seems like you just got here.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
By the way. Uh now I know this. I don't
know if I can share this, but I'm going to
anyway because you know me. So when you first came
to our station two thousand and five, the reason you
came to our station is that we were the Laker stages.
I was hired and you are. When you went to Pepperdine,
(24:33):
I did, migrated out from Chicago and you come to and.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
You just nineteen ninety one, you were a Laker diehard.
I took my first job. I had two offers from
two separate record labels, and as a signing bonus, I
requested Laker season tickets right.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
So as you were making in the business obviously and
working with Kevin and being the whole shebang, the opportunity
to be part of the Laker broadcast dream come true.
It was a dream come true. So that was your
main draws to come here. I, uh, yes, I didn't
even think about the fact that. Truly, I did not
(25:12):
think that having an afternoon show was like the bigger
piece of it. Yes, for me, it was just, hey, dude,
I'm gonna be on the Laker broadcast and I'm going
to figure out a way to work my way up
from pre half and post to play by play. And
that's ultimately when I had set my sights on it.
I was like, Yeah, whatever you want me to do afternoon,
I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
You want to put me with Joe grunnit great, whatever,
find whoever you want to put them in that chair.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I can talk. It's not a problem. We'll do that.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
But but what's the you give me the details on
the Lakers. Yes, you're absolutely right, that is exactly you know.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
When I think about that, and I just remember time.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
In LA and I didn't even think, truly, I was like, whatever,
I don't know, that's nice.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
When we're in Boston for the NBA Finals in two
thousand and eight. I remember we're all hanging out the pubs, Carrie,
and you're just getting loaded up, and it was just
I mean, being at TV Garden game one. Oh, man,
you're supposed to babysit, vic you away, and you got
upset on me because James Taylor came and I'm like
(26:13):
j T, and You're like, have a conversation. You're like,
why are you calling him? Ja? That's what they called
mister Taylor.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
The first question you asked him was, hey, man, are
you freaking out?
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Are you nervous? This is the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I believe his response was in a very as you
would imagine James Taylor, soft spoken way. Yeah, well, I
have sung the national anthem many times here at the Garden,
at the Boston Garden, and I've played shows in front
of one hundred thousand people before, so I think I'll
(26:52):
be able to manage this.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Beautiful You're freaking out, man, how bet you're freaking out? Taylor?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Oh, it was so great to witness that. And I'll
tell you the highlight of that, and look the trip
in itself with all of us there and hanging out
at the Boston what was the name of our It
was a historic hotel that we still was, and the
inventor of the Boston cream Pie was the bakery in
the bottom that we all ate. But what I'll always
(27:25):
remember from that trip I had been part of the
Laker broadcast now five six oh six oh seven, so
it was my second year. First year, they should have
knocked off the Suns, but blew that three to one
series lead. Freaking Tim Thomas and that unbelievable that that
shot earned him an eighty million dollar contract. But what
(27:47):
I'll always remember about that final is, I want to
say it was the start of the second half. It's
the NBA Finals. It's game one, very back and forth affair,
and I think we were probably somewhere around the nine
and a half minute mark when Spiro turned off his
(28:09):
microphone and said to Michael Thompson, you know, this is
the NBA Finals, and you haven't said a word for
two and a half minutes, and you've been eating that effing.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Popcorn non stuff. Michael had gone two and a half minutes. Oh,
the popcorn ear is so good. I can't get enough
of it, Mamon. Yeah, Spiro had to turn his mic
off and say, will you quit eating the popcorn? This
is the NBA Finals. Well, my first year working with
(28:43):
Michael was the four Finals when we went to longest
week of my life in Detroit. Yeah, so, you know,
we think we're gonna blow out the Pistons. I mean,
come on, the Laker's gonna blow out the Pistol Pistons
and they win the first game, you know, over at
Staples and then Kobe hits the game when he shot
and too. So we go back to Detroit. We're talking
to Kobe. We'll be fly blah blah blah blah. Michael
(29:05):
is staying with the Lakers. Station has me. They said
it a whole I was in a motel motel with
a candy machine, right. But my favorite about Michael was
he flies in his two youngest sons, fourteen year old
Clay and thirteen year old Trace. They were still living
in Portland because they had to finish the school year
(29:27):
before they moved to LA And he flies them to
Detroit and we had an off day to go to
Camerica Park to see the Tigers play, then in a
league game with the Marlins. So it's all planned. So
they flew out with their uncle. And now it's the
day of the game. We don't every rate. It's a week,
it's like a Sunday. Michael calls me. He goes, I
(29:48):
really don't want to go? Can you take the boys
of the game. I'm like, I don't want to go
to the game. I'm like, well, wait to say you
fly your boys out here. And this is a true
story that sounds checks out. So the uncle and I
took the boys to the game.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
We had great work for the NBA. NBA TV. Yeah
the television guy. Yes, Michael's brother, the nicest guy in
the world.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, great guy. So anyway, two years ago, I uh,
I went to Dodger spring training first time after I
got vass A all nervous. I don't know why he
was so nervous. He goes, why are you following me around?
I said, I just wanted to hang out. You know,
I'm not doing any but hanging out. And we walk
into the Dodger clubhouse and there's Trace Thompson. He looks
(30:31):
right at me, mister hart I'm like to mister Hartman,
and he knew it too. He remembered every good detail
of that game years old. Every detail the life. It
was unbelievable. I was like that, So yeah, so the.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Uh, we're gonna have to push the word number song
to the next segment. But I do want to share
because we often tell this story without you as we're
just this is just a a reminisce with Steve Hartman,
because there's a many great stories that we've that we've
experienced with Steve. He was a joy to be on
the road with and in the office with every day.
But when we would hit the road, we would you know,
(31:09):
get after it a little. Oh yeah, same experience two
thousand and eight run when they when they we are
the two thousand and nine season, when they win the title,
we have to go through Utah. I think it was
the conference semis right, because I think the conference this
was actually two thousand and eight, so this was yeah,
this was this is the VIC story. Yeah, yeah, two
(31:31):
thousand and eight, and I wanted, I want as we
went to Denver, went to Utah, went to sant Antela.
The so Utah is this conference Semi's Denver first round,
knocked him out second round Utah. I'm staying at the
Grand American, the finest hotel in all of Salt Lake
because I'm with the team. You're staying at the Little
American across the street. Petrose me Vic, which and Michael
(31:53):
Thompson and I are across the street at the Grand American,
which Don Martin.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Said is just like the other one. Guys, it's like
the same hotel. It's just across the street. They got
the Grand American. It's got like four extra floors, and
then they got Little American and it's just like a
two store, you know, it's just like a small or
more quaint version.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, it was a motor in you know, it's one
where you parked and then you walked out of your
car and you walked in the front door of your
motel kind of thing. But why don't you talk us
through what you remember the day you departed Utah and
what was supposed to happen and what did happen?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Well, usually what would happen When I'm traveling, especially at
that time, I have to be the someone has to
be in charge, Okay, I I you know, I in
charge you mean in charge of I mean p was
a kid, right, I mean he's gonna sort of do
the pe thing, right, sure? And Vic, I mean I
could literally I could write a book on traveling with
Vic the brick. Okay. So anyway, we had a time
(32:47):
that we had to get up because we had to
go do the radio show. You had to do a
radio show. So Vic doesn't show up in the lobby
in the law You've got the Renolds car. So we're
we're calling Vic's room and there's no answer.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
At any point. Are you concerned for his health or no?
You just know that he's.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You know what I at that point, honestly, in my mind,
having roomed with Vic on the road, I was the
one guy that said he's there. They're like, Sir, he's
not there. We've called many times, We've knocked on the door.
I said, no, I'm telling you he's in that room.
I'm telling you I know he is in that room.
The room. So he walked to the room and at
(33:30):
this point I am like, I'm not knocking, I am
pounding on the door. That's Vic, come to the door.
What time is it? Is it six am? No? It was.
It was fairly early, but not that early.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Again, this is a motor in you're talking about every
room faces the parking lot, and everyone's.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Looking at me like he's not there. I'm telling you,
he's there banging on the door. All of a sudden,
there's like a little curtain. I see the curtain move
a little bit, and then he opens the door. Everyone
was like stun like they've seen a ghost. I couldn't
believe it. Do you remember what he's wearing? Like a
night shirt? Right, it's something like that, I go, Vic,
(34:12):
do you remember, because Petros remembers vividly, he says, there
is a line that you screamed at him. Do you
remember what It was? Probably something like we we got
to go something like, uh, you blew it, you blew
it exactly. Well, we also had that in Boston. You
you didn't, you missed all those So Sharon belly Oh,
by the way, I saw Sharon here today, you know.
(34:33):
So Sharon was Sharon p me and Vic and we're
traveling to Boston, and we got a hotel room because
you were traveling with the team. So we had in Connecticut,
like we had a room to sleep for like four hours.
It was a weird thing where we took a red
eye and done said my man, well we'll get you
like a hotel so you can get a little sleep.
(34:55):
So I'm when telling the guy at the desk, look,
we have a we got to have this wake up call.
So they sort of hit the hay and all of
a sudden, I look up at the clock. It's like
twenty minutes pass of wake up. I get up. I go.
There's people in the lobby and I'm just dropping out
boats you blew it and I'm dropping f Box and
Pe and Sharon and Vicker just looking at me like dude,
(35:18):
and I'm like screaming in the nightmare with you. Oh.
And then we had to pick up the credentials right
and there was no parking, and I'm like, screw this,
We're triple parking. We got to get we have to
get the credentials. We got to get in because all
this is the same day.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Was it Sharon Bell that was navigating with the map
or was Vic trying to navigate?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I think it was. I mean I was driving, yeah,
so that I knew. Yeah, I was driving, and I
and I had driven. Driving in Boston's a night because
it's a series of one way streets. It's an old city,
wasn't built for cars. It's the worst. It's really the worst.
When you're a downtown Boston. You could go in a
circle forever. So but you know what survived. But you
(36:01):
will relaxed because you know you're traveling big time with
the team. You know s.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Cargo, caviare, champagne, sees beers. I'll tell you man, that
was Lamar odom knew how to take care of people.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Lamar.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
He was the host with the most everywhere we went Lamar,
everybody was all right, what do you want for the flight?
What do you like to I'm like, I don't drink
some beer?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Is a rice cake? He's like, I think about that.
You're playing in the NBA playoffs and you're like, what
do you like to drink? On playing? What do you
you want to? You want beers? What do you want
me to buy? Him like, hey, buy whatever, I don't care.
Come on, man, tell me how did Petro survive that trip?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
We had a good time, man. We walked the Freedom Trail. Yeah,
walked the Freedom Trail. Chrispus atticist Steve.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
There was a place we walked into a potatic They said,
this is the only place where you can drink of
Sam Adams and his grave is across the street. Yeah,
come on to are live good stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Smoking cigarettes, drinking beers, staying out till five am. Alright,
word number song when we return h
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