July 15, 2026 • 39 mins
Last hour of Steve Hartman and Jonas Knox guest hosting PMS. Is the MLB heading for Doomsday? Replay of Bob Nightengale interview. A reporter tries to keep her cool as a cockroach lands on her chest during a live report.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's a Petro Some Money Show here on AM five
seventy LA Sports. Steve Hartman Jonas Knox in for the
guys final hour on this we team guy, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Listen, it flies, It flies, by the way, We're going
to do it again tomorrow, that's right, so you will be.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We'll be in for the guys coming up tomorrow as
well too, on a Thursday edition of The Petro Some
Money Show.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Now, look, it's been fun.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We've had a lot of conversation, a lot of goofing around,
a lot of enjoyable stuff. But apparently things not so
fun when it comes to Major League Baseball. And I know, obviously, look,
we've we've discussed this in the past, and there's been
rumblings about this, but apparently, according to a report, MLB
players and team owners aren't just far apart on the
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specific proposals of on going labor talks, they also don't
have remotely the same view on the state of the
game that according to Yahoo Sports.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And I hear that and I go, look, I know,
deadlines do deals.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
But.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Maybe it's past trauma of this happening in baseball before
that I can remember that sort of changed and altered
the future and direction of organizations careers back you know,
in ninety four. But I look at this and I go,
that ain't great. That doesn't seem like when dealing with
the power that is the MLB Players Association, that maybe
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this whole idea of there being a stoppage and not
getting the baseball we want next year could be a
reality sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, going back to nineteen ninety four, Jonas, obviously back
in the old six ninety days, Tony gwyn was sitting
three ninety four, like we were talking about could he
do it?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I mean, Tony Winn actually at four hundred this year,
not for a millionaires? Do we think?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I mean, if they shut down, what do you mean,
like they're going to cancel the World Series? Like really,
it never will happen. They will never do that. And
they did it. Yeah, and people forget this. They did
not start the next season. Eighteen games were canceled. The
next year was either Bruce Bochi took over as the
manager of the Podres and that season was only one
hundred and forty four games. So even though they wiped
out the postseason in ninety four, they still did not
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have an agreement in place until they'd already canceled eighteen
games into the next season.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You remember the Expos that year was the best team
in baseball.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I mean loaded, I mean just loaded with everybody. I
mean from Larry Walker to Pedro Martinez Martinez.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, I mean it was just freaking loaded, was it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Matt Williams on that team was Matt Williams and I
think Gla Guerrero.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I mean they had everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean it was the best, best record in baseball,
no question about that.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So nothing has changed. That's that's the crazy part.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You know, we were talking earlier about nineteen ninety four
World Cup here in the United States and where we
are in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Well, this is the same thing in baseball in nineteen
ninety four.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I understand this about the Major League Baseball Players Union.
It is not only the strongest union in sports, it
is the strongest union in this country.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
They never break rank ever, respect ever. Literally nobody walks, nobody.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And they are making it infinitely clear, no matter how
much Rob Manfred, the Commissioner of Baseball, tries to say, well, gee,
everybody has you know, this is a different time.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Everyone loves a salary cap. It will never happen. Never. Never.
Players will sit out and sit out and sit out
and sit.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Out if your only alternative is a salary cap. The
only thing that the players want is to raise the
basement and those teams that refused to spend money.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, raise that basement level.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But as far as putting a cap on the top spenders,
it's ever going to be approved by the players union.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. It didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Bryce Harper almost beat up Rob Manford in the locker
room last year when the subject was even brought up,
and they got into each got in each other's faces,
and we're about ready to throw down.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I'm with you, man, And this this idea that all
of a sudden, after all these years, they're gonna cave
with the salary skyrocketing and with you know, the and
the part about ninety four.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And I still remember this, and.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It didn't I understood it at the time, but I
was so young that I didn't really understand the grand
scale of it. But my older brother was a diehard
Cincinnati Reds fan. And he was a Reds fan because
when he grow up, the Reds and the big Red
Machine and all that stuff. So he loved the Cincinnati Reds,
really never followed the team after ninety four. He was
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so disgusted by the stoppage and not being able to
be on the same page that he just kind of
was over and after that, and it's what led to
maguire and so and the steroid era and all that.
That's why whenever Major League Baseball comes out and condemns
those guys for taking steroids after the fact, it's like, stop.
You needed them to get people to fall in love
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with baseball again. Like, because so many people were disenchanted
with the idea of baseball based on what happened in
ninety four that it just really lost a lot of momentum.
And I look at baseball now and I go, look,
the World Baseball Classic is awesome. I know there's some
people here, especially at the blow towards, and aren't fans
of the WBC.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think the game is at a point to where
it's speeding up the you know, the pitch clock.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I'm with you, Jonas. Baseball is in a great, great spot.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And I look at it and I go, if you
all of a sudden, stop the momentum.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Now everybody suffers.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But it feels like that's where we're headed because the
MLBPA is doing their job and people cannot like it
all they want, but they're standing their ground and they're
looking after the players that they represent. And those players
have stuck by that players Association for since the beginning
of time, and I don't see that stopping now just
because Rob Manford wants to give a couple of press
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conferences about it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
All right, So here's what you need to do. This
is where the players argument. The reason the NFL is
healthy is that it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Goes all the way back to.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Pete Roselle, who made a decision for the Green Bays
of the world to survive on the same level as
the New York and la of the world, we have
to have an equal distribution of the television money, which
by the way, coincides with the salary cap every year.
So if you look at the dynamic of the salary
cap in the NFL, the salary cap is set with
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the equal distribution of the network TV money. In other words,
all that money is, it's all paid for it and okay,
so how you run your operation, that's up to you.
How much money you want to spend on coaches or
front office or your scouting department. That's the difference between
the organizations. But as far as the salaries are concerned,
it's basically a wash. At least the under the cap
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based on the equal distribution of the network television money. Now,
I know, we don't have that in Major League Baseball.
You have regional contracts, right so you got Spectrum, you
got the Yes Network, you got you know, some of
these powerhouse television networks for some of these teams. There
are other teams that don't even have a TV contract
right now. And so what the players are saying is, look,
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your inability to figure out the dynamic of the economics
on the owner side is your problem.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
It's not our problem.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You guys have got to figure out how all thirty
teams get on the same page and figure out how
to lump all that money together, and then we don't have.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
To worry about a salary cap, because.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Then there'll be an equal distribution of the money, just
like the NFL has.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Look in the NBA, right, you have a salary cap.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And yet we have teams that are perpetually at the bottom.
I mean the idea that the owner's throat the salary cap.
Jonas is like, well we got equal to playing field.
Well there's no equally you know the playing field. Bad
organizations are always going to be bad organizations.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So that is a weak argument.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
So I understand from the player's standpoint that, And again
the owners are going to try to blame the players.
They do the same thing in nineteen ninety four. It's
all your fault. It's all your fault.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
There is equal share here, believe on both sides.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
But again the owners are going to have to go
back to the drawing board because if this is their
only card they're playing is to have a salary cap,
there will not be a baseball season in twenty twenty seven.
There will not be a baseball season next year at all,
which just sucks.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I mean the thought of that, because I don't know
how how you feel about it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Maybe this is just you know, having you know, a
kid now and sort of going through the process. But
I get excited for spring training. Man, I know it's exhibition.
I know it's oh listen, you know, I mean, you
know what split squads and.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The cac distingres. I love baseball. I love it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Man, I think it's like you say, all the changes
that made you know, the idea of a pitch clock,
to me was like, that's not going to it's worked it.
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I go to a Dodger game, now two and a
half hours, we're out of there. Great game, love it,
it's great.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's still not a big fan of interleague players, really
diminished the All Star Game and some of the other things,
but there are things they have done recently. It's a
TikTok's plus it has become a TikTok sport.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It's in a very healthy spot. Don't screw it up.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And there's so many great players and great stories. And look,
I've always said with the Dodgers, I mean, the season
can be I don't want to say boring, but predictable
because you look at it and go, well, what does
it matter. They're just going to win the division anyways
and hopefully get a buy in the postseason, even though
they didn't last year. But I look at it, I
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go but it's still the opportunity for you to go
and see Hall of Fame players any night of the
week at Dodger Stadium, and they've got plenty of them.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Oh here.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
It's Freeman Otani movie. That's I mean, you name it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
So when I see baseball in this spot to where
now they find themselves looking at a work stoppage, you
would hope cooler heads prevail. I don't think it's happening, man.
I think we are headed towards a work stoppage, which
I think is a bummer for everybody. And I can't
see how this gets resolved in time that we're not
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getting to talk spring training and get ready for that.
And I hate talking like that because it's so much
fun to watch and so enjoyable, and the sport has
come so far, but it feels like it's going to
be ninety four all over again.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, going back to ninety four ninety five because it
carried into the next year.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
How is that resolved? He said, Well, how is the resolved?
I don't know. We don't have a salary cap, do you.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So the owner's cave to the players demands players won.
I mean I remember talking to the late great Marvin Miller.
This guy changed. There is no more consequential person in
the history of Major League Baseball than when Marvin Miller
took over the Players Union in the mid six these
which went to free agency. You know, I mean, I
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hate to use the word, you know, like a slave.
I mean, it's nothing like that. The players are compensated.
But you had no freedom. You had no freedom of choice.
You were owned by a team until they either traded
you to a team that you had no choice where
you were traded, or they released you and you were
out on the street. So he changed that whole dynamic.
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But in the process and Donald Fair took over. You
remember how this this is never they have never waivered.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
They did.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The strength of this Major League Baseball's players is like unlike.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Any any union in this country.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's how powerful they are. They will not chip away,
break rank, no chance.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I mean, look the astros cheating scandal, Like what did
they guys have to do? Come out and release a
statement a couple of statements, and it's like, all right,
I mean, you're gonna get booed for the rest of
your career when you go to Dodger Stadium or but
you know, listen, this is because the MLBPA, because the
strength of the Players Association, and it's the envy. I mean, look,
you ask NFL players like, hey, how would you feel
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about having the MLBP, they would love it. I mean,
you imagine having somebody that strong to be able to
stand their ground and win time after time after time
to get the owners to cave. Like you pointed out,
if you're the owners, just understand that that's the reality
of where this is going.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Otherwise the deal is not getting done.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Think about players to get pusted for pds, right, they
may serve a fifty games set, spinch o one hundred
games even the entire season.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
But you know what, they don't lose their contracts. Yep,
they're not voided. They still get paid. A Rod still
got paid at the end of his deal. How about
Ryan Bryan remember him in Milwaukee? He got busted and suspended.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
He played out the rest of his contract in Milwaukee,
not a shadow of what he had been as a player,
got paid every single cent of it.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Look at the Fernando Tazzis junior and it's why you know.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
There was a guy for the Mets, I forget his name,
who got popped. He pissed hot a few years ago,
and it's like, man, how could you do that?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Such he needate. He ruined his career.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
He he came from a small country. He came from nothing.
He's still got every cent of that deal, and maybe
with the steroids, maybe with that extra help that helped
get him that deal never been and he gets to
take two to three to four million dollars whatever it was,
back home to his country, where that dollar is going
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to go a lot farther than what I had here.
So yeah, I'm with you, man. I think ultimately the
players are going to win this thing. I just don't
know how long it's going to take before we get
to that conclusion. He's Steve Hartman, I'm Jonas Knox in
for Petros and Money here on the Blowtorch AM five
seventy LA Sports. Up Next, does this person feel as
down on the whole situation as we do? You'll get
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the answer right here on AM five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The Petrone Show podcasted at A five seventy LA sports com.
You are listening to the Petros and Money Show PMS.
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But PMS, well, Petros money aren't here right now. Yours truly,
Steve Harbin, along with a great Jonas Knox, we are
hanging out not only today, but we're gonna hang out tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I know that you talked to pee quite a bit.
Do you have any clue what the guys are doing
over the next.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Couple of days or as far as what do you mean.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Are they hanging out or are they just taking day? So,
I mean, what what do they do on their day safe?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So, like I've heard rumblings about you know, money, uh
maybe being in Hawaii. I think Petros is at the
Mountain West Media days in Vegas. I think he went
to Vegas for that, So he's, uh, you know, going
to catch up with guys like luminaries like Timmy Chang,
you know, and and a couple of new members of
the U of the Mountain West.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So I mean, look, this is people spend their off
time in different places.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
They like to like to bounce it around, and Matt's
out surfing and Petrous's you know, grinding in Vegas, you know,
and smoke filled casinos.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
More power to them.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Are we all ready to bring on the great Bob
Nightingale Because joining us right now is a man that
has covered baseball for a long time. I've talked Abob
many times over these many many years Jonas, and it's
great to have on the man from USA today. Of course,
he's worked for everyone, including the LA Times back in
the day, the great Bob Not and Gale, Bob, Steve
Harbin here along with Jonas Knox.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
How you doing today, Bob, Yeah, I'm doing great.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Good to your voice again and.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
It's great to hear you as well, Bob.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
All right, So before we get to the future of
Major League Baseball, Jonas and I were talking about the
All Star Game, and you know, I thought they did
a pretty good job in Philadelphia. We like the signing routine,
you know, but that was sort of cool. And but
you know, Bob, you and I go back to a
time and you know it was nationally versus America League.
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There was clear divisions between the two leagues that in
the World Series with the only time you got to
see the best of the best of the two leagues
on the same field. At the same time, we've seen
the end of the Pro Bowl, We've seen the end
of the NBA All Star Game, the NHL All Star
Game died years ago.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Would you do anything to help save the Baseball All
Star Game?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Or are you convinced that the way it's formata right
now is good enough to hang on for the next
twenty thirty fifty years.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Well, you'd wish the players wouldn't back out of it,
you know. I know some managers and I think DM
Roberts came alluded to it, like, hey, if you don't
play an end, if you don't show up.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
You shouldn't get your All Star bonus.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
You know, you should you get a thing in your
resume that you made the All Star team, you know
that sort of thing. I think that's why Rob Manford
in the Commissioner's office said, Okay, if you guys want
to do Olympics, that's fine, but you'd back out. You know,
you're not gonna play for three weeks. You give me
us a spinning list for Major League Baseball, you know
that sort of thing. So that's a part. Too many
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players back.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Out, and it's you know, it's not the same.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I don't think we've ever had the same We're not
going to have the days of you know, Pete Rose
not going to over Ray Fosse, that that sort of thing,
and not having the big speeches by former ALE and
n All players say hey, we got to win this
one for pride. You know, I don't think people have
been really you know, even realize, okay, you know who
won the last few All Star games, West streak. You know,
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nobody really cares. It's just all kind of blending together. Bob.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
We were talking about just sort of the differences between
the MLB All Star Game and say, you know, the
NFL and the Pro Bowl or the NBA All Star Game,
And in my mind, it's the best all star game.
Major League Baseball's All Star Game is the best of
the bunch because you can replicate an exhibition baseball game.
You can't really replicate an exhibition NFL game, and the
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intensity of the NBA All Star Game just isn't there.
But have you noticed any sort of a maybe there's
a disinterest just from when you started covering baseball, started
going and covering the event to now that would make
you concerned about what the future could look like for it.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yeah, I mean, like you said, it's so by far
the best one. You know, in the NFL, it was
kind of abandoned it. You know, Hockey is you know,
done completely different.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
You know, even the NBA.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
With their different things with the quarters and stuff like that.
So I'm not sure you know what you could do
unless you just say, you know what they what the
winning players get you know, two hundred thousand dollars, losing
player gets nothing, you know, that sort.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Of thing, you know, And I think it did kind.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Of you know, people made fun of it. This game
shouldn't count when when whoever you know won the All
Star Game at the sadding home field advantage, you know,
at least that was something. So yeah, they're just so
little incentive or really known sent them to win these
All Star games.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Now, Bob, I was sharing the story with Jonah Steve
Garvey's first All Star Game in San Diego in seventy four,
he was a writing candidate. Not only was the MVP
of the game, he played all nine innings. Bob and so,
one of the suggestions I've had, and I don't know
if the players would ever go for this, but the
idea of bringing somebody back into the game. Let's use
show Hey as an example. Let's say show he had
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played in this game. He's batting lead off, gets a
couple of bats in, and then he's done for the day.
Maybe he gets out of his clothes. But I would
like to reserve the possibility maybe one player, two players,
where the game's now in the ninth inning, games on
the line, it's a one run game, and we have
an option to bring somebody back.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Into the game.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Okay, I know you can't do this in a regular game,
but it is an exhibition game.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
A would you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Buy into something like that? Be Do you think any
player would go along with that? Because I think Cody
Bellinger said it best when he got the MVP where
you're still in his Yankee uniform and they said.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
You know, there's a chance he could be the MVP.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Maybe stay in your uniform instead of getting back in
your street close but something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Would that appeal to you or that's just too outrageous?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
No, it is a good idea, I really do. I mean,
why not they uh, because you kind of want to
let everybody play. But say it's the key moments to
the game's tied in the ninth or tenth inning, Well
you know, now they have a home run derby. Instead
of doing that, you know, let's let the stars come back.
That would prevent actually a lot of players from leaving.
So you know, I'm not sure they go. You know,
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when you win that clubhouse after the games, you don't
have to have the teams are done.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
So but no, that that would be cool do something
like that.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
I mean, as it is, you know, the the two
managers have to designate a few hitters in case there
is a home run derby to decide it, you know,
like like last year. So uh but yeah, I'm I
think two with with Bellinger what he said. It also
shows you, you know, how dull that game was yesterday
in the sense where he gets a two run two
runs single the first inning in the A hold on
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you might be the m v P.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It was that kind of night, Bob Night and gooil
and joining us here on a five seventy l A
sports Steve Hartman, Jonas Knox in perpetual some money. So
you know, obviously we're gonna Steve and I will get
into this a little bit later on, But what are
your vibes or your feelings in talking with people around
the league about whether or not we're going to have
a season next year, whether.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Or not it's going to start on time?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
With all the stuff out there, whether it's the owners,
the players association, from people you've talked with, what's sort
of the expectation for how this thing is going to go.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Well, well, I think we'll definitely have a season. It's
just a question. I know, how long is it? I
still think it will be a minimum one hundred and
forty games. I want to be shocked with.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
One sixty two.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
But you know the last time it was a nine
nine day lockdown in twenty twenty one, and just you know, barely,
you know, barely.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Got in the double hitters and things.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Like that started late. I think you know, one thing,
as you talked to both sides, is okay, it's going
to probably take one missed paycheck. Find the players to
see how they react. Is it gonna be panic? Are
they stayst wrong? And then if the owners send said okay,
they're not budging, you know, then maybe they'll move off
the US salary cap. But the censor's weakness, you know,
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it may go on for a little while, but I
think you know, nothing big is going to happen unless
there's a serious threat, if not an actual miss paycheck,
you know which you don't You get paid every two weeks,
so you're talking about two weeks after the season starts.
You know that would be laid by that, and then
of course you got the spring training.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Well, for those of us that were a round Bob
back in nineteen ninety four, and I was down in
San Diego doing our show when they shut down the season.
Tony Gwynn, of course, was hitting three ninety four at
the time. We were talking about a possible four hundred season.
And what people may forget is the season the next
season nineteen ninety five, missed eighteen games and they still
didn't have this thing resolved to even start the next
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season on time.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
The idea of a salary cap is it's a deal breaker.
I mean, the players will never go this, Bob, you
know as well as I do.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Not only is the MLB Players Union the strongest union
in sports, this is the strongest union in America.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
They never break rank ever.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And so you know, I think the owners are gonna
have to figure out an alternative here. And part of
it is just figuring out some kind of revenue share
because we know that you know, we have spectrum here,
We got Yes Network with the Yankees. There are certain
teams that are bringing a whole lot more as far
as their television deals are concerned than some other teams
that have no television deals at all. But if you're
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sitting there, the players that are like, you know, this
is this is really a problem amongst you owners to
figure out how you can you know, share some of
the wealth that you have amongst you. Yes, somebody are
more rich, Well, you have to share it, just like
the NFL agreed, you know, many many years ago with
Pete Roselle to share all the television network money equally,
so everyone's on an equal playing field. And I guess
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from the player standpoint, I think that's that's what they're
looking at. Say, don't look at us. I mean, I
know you're trying to paint us out to be the
bad guys here, but you need to get your house
in order before you come back to us with some
kind of proposal.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Well yeah, I mean it's the thing that's been going
on forever.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I mean, look at the owner's latest proposal. That proposal
has every team sharing the TV money equally. So the
Dodgers are sharing their three hundred and thirty million dollars
with the Brewers, who we're getting about twenty twenty five million.
Now that's only if the players, you know, take a
salary cap. If you know, the no salary cap. The
owners aren't sharing. So you know, you can understand both sides.
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I can understand why the small market teams would love
to get one at TV money. But then the large
market teams are saying, wait a minute. Now, you know
we just paid you know, two billion dollars for our team.
You spent you know, two hundred million dollars to buy years.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
You know, they.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Shouldn't be equal. You know, the Yankees and Dodgers shouldn't
have have equal value as Milwaukee Brewers.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
You know, it's not.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
It's not the NFL, you know, with the pack, you know,
the NBA as big as you know, the Rams or
something else. You know, it's just you know that horses
at the barn. So you know, I know you're saying, Steve,
and I think the owners are trying to jump on
what happened in twenty one. In twenty one, member the
executive committee of the eight guys said hey, we're not
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returning to play. We wanted to keep negotiating. Then they
went to the rank and file, went off thirty teams and
the team's go to twenty six to four waymnue. Now
we're playing. So our teams are kind of trying to
feed off that said, Okay, if that kind of worked
in twenty one, maybe it'll work now. I think they
realized this is are probably their best and last chance
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for a salary cap and say if it works, And
that's why I think they're going to, you know, right
now at the minimum salary you know, is seven hundred
eight thousand, I think they're going to jump that thing
up to at least one point two million, at one
point twenty five. I think the arbitration guys will be
a bigger pool. I think pre agency will drop down
to five years instead this if you're a thirty year older.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So I think they're going.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
To try to get the lower class and middle class
to agree with them. And like Bruce Meyers.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Said the other day in this meeting, it's that, you know.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
That's what you owners do, not just baseball but all
sports is you know, kind of dibide and trying to
trying to pit the the young guys and the middle
class against the rich players.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Bob Nightingale joining us here from USA today on AM
five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Steve Hartman, Jonas Knox in for Petro some money.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So I want to ask you, because obviously there was
a trade that went down in Major League Baseball earlier
to where you had Lance McCullers go from Houston to Milwaukee.
Not the biggest blockbuster trade there is. But we are
getting to the point in the year where now teams
are trying to figure out where they stand. And I'm
just wondering how much has the wild card impacted what
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teams are going to do at this deadline because obviously
out here the Dodge j there's been ter schooble, but
now Detroit's, you know, maybe a little bit back into
the mix. Where what are you hearing from people in
and around the league about how active this summer could
be from a trade standpoint?
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Well, yeah, I mean, just say, what's going to happen
the next three weeks. They're really going to decide everything.
The trouble is, you get about you know, twenty three,
twenty four teams still in this thing in all about
two teams in the American League. So if you're a
nationally team, if you want to be realistic, you know,
instead just playing in the playoffs, So you have to think, Okay,
do we have enough, you know, shure we go for it.
(27:34):
Do we have enough to beat up the Dodgers, Appillies
or Atlanta? You know, you know, three three huge teams
obviously lived by the Dodgers in the American League. You say,
you know what, we just get in the dance. We're
okay because there's no there's not one super team in
the American League. You know, then they don't have a
Dodgers in the American League.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
So, uh, I.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Think it's all going to come down to what happens here,
you know, in these you know, these next two to
three weeks. I think it's gonna be tough. You know,
take a trek Scooba. If you're the Tigers, you're with
the like three games of wild card spot. I don't
know how the world you can trade Eric Scuba. You
got to go for this thing. Uh, you know, you
(28:14):
know that, you know, people bring up the Angels, but
the Angels want about four games back and you know
in that wild card race, and it didn't make sense
at the time. So but I think in the Tiger's case,
you know, you look at a week to AL centralist
and how weak to AL is in general, why you know,
why not why not go for it?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Well, I tell you what, I think we can all
agree on this, Bob. Baseball is in a good spot
right now in terms of the popularity of the sport.
You know, I'm old school, but the pitch clock has
been genius. I mean, to cut the games down from
three hours plus the two and a half hours has
been great for the sport.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It's a TikTok sport.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Young people are into baseball, and to screw this whole
thing up, you got to come to some resolt from
the player's side, from the owner side. Figure this out.
Don't screw it up, because right now things are great
in baseball. Things always go with Bob Nightingale. Bob, it's
great to catch up with again. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Sure my pleasure.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Thank you, guys.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Take care.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
That's Bob Nightingale ussay today. So we can only hope
Jonas that they can figure this thing out, because we
do not want to. I mean, obviously greater things are
great here in Dodgers Lamb, but just in general, baseball
is in a good spot.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I don't know. I mean, look, we're gonna get into
it later, but a lot more optimistic than I am.
I'll just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I'm keeping my fingers crossed right now. All right, much
more coming up, Steve Harbin. Jonas knocks in for Petro
some money. This is a in five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Petrol Send Money available on the free iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Now it's a Petro Some Money Show here on A
(30:08):
and five seven of the LA Sports Steve Hartman Jonas
knocks in for the guys. A reminder we will be
back in for tomorrow's show here on a Thursday here
on the Petro Some Money Show. So to be Steve
and I hanging out with you again as we get
you set for a Friday and a busy weekend as
the Dodgers return from the All Star break Steve, before
(30:30):
we wrap up here, and if you've missed any of
today's show, you can check out the podcast. So if
you've got any complaints against Steve, go check out the podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Is Now Wait a second, I've heard your weekend show
and you know you get.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Is that for real? Because I know everybody at Fox
loves you. I mean, you do an unbelievable All those tweets,
all those are all real.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I Mean, I got a guy who calls me Monica
Lewinski Junior every week.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
It's wondering, it's unbelievable. Play off my boys, Jonas, come on,
my wife, It's like, why do you post that stuff?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Because sometimes I'll throw it on my Instagram page and
he's like, why do you post that stuff?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I'm like, cause it's funny.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I don't you know, way back in the day when
when Chet forty had passed away and Philly Billy Warrendale
took over as my new co host, and these are
the days when we only had fax machines back in
the day, and so you.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Know, he was East Coast.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
So initially everyone seemed, you know, sympathetic to the cause.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But it didn't take long, like, get.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
This guy off the air, and I'm going back checking faxes,
you know, during the breaks, and they're just stacking up.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
So I just went on there.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I go, hey, Billy, we got some faxes. Here says oh,
this guy says you suck. Here's another guy says why
is this guy.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
On the air?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I hope this guy is the same fate as Chet,
I mean, and he's.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Looking at me like what are you doing? Why you know,
on the air, but he's like, why are you doing this?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And I realized I needed to have people sympathetic to him.
I realized I'm going to be the bad guy here.
I want people to like him. And then they turned
on me to be the bad guy, which I can
I can handle. It is one thing for somebody to
tweet at you to sit in a fact, it was
we'd gotten past the curly facts and we actually got
(32:10):
like faxes like this, but they would float in and
as soon as you start radium, you know how it
is that Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Because that everyone's like, well, I want to get on
the air too, and so I'll just clile on and
take it to another level.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Now, speaking of where we spend our time.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
On the weekends, uh and and another parts during the
week there Steve over in Sherman Oaks, we got an
issue here. A cockroach made this, according to the report,
an unexpected appearance. During a live kt L A weather
report on Tuesday night. Rachel Mentov was reporting live from
(32:46):
Sherman Oaks on the lingering effects of Southern California's heat
wave and when the insect landed on her shoulder and
appeared to crawl across her chest. Now that feels like
a salt the way that that is. That's that's described there.
I would also say this for anybody that's been in
Sherman Oaks, specifically in the Fox Sports radio studios. I
(33:06):
mean cockroaches are just part of the family there, Like yeah,
I mean, like that's just that's part of the deal.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Is there any time of the day you haven't been
in those studios?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
No, But I remember years ago, the great Frank Pollock. Yeah, Frank,
when he worked over there, every time a cockroach popped
up in the building, he would say and out chafe.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
This used to be a Denny's.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
It's like, Frank, there's no cockroach that's still for fishing bait.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Because you know, I love this, I mean the same thing,
all right, So what's going on here with this? Steve?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So when I see this story about Rachel, and obviously
I work at KTLA, so I know all the names here.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
My first thought about this is.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
When you're doing live TV, and I've done obviously a
lot of live TV over the years, especially when you're
on location, right, I would say this, like, you know,
I've done live shots outside of many arenas. Now, when
you're on the floor, it's easy, you're you're secluded, but
if you're outdoors, you're open into the elements. And I
was sharing this story with Adam. I was talking about
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there was a game. It was a pac twelve championship
basketball game between Colorado and Oregon at Staplesenter.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
But there's nobody there. Nobody there, and so we're.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Doing I don't know, I'm doing a live shot outside
of Staple Center.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
There's literally ghosts.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'm literally thinking, is there anybody actually inside to do this?
So as I literally camera goes on for my live shot,
I can hear behind me somebody running, but I can't
turn around. So as I start to talk, some kid,
college kid comes running up right into the shot next
to me, turns into my left ear and just screams
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as loud as he can into my ear on live television.
Now I've seen the tape. I did not even flinch.
I finished my report. All I kept thinking is if
that kid is standing next to me when I'm done.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
He's dead, Like this kid will be dead. Of course,
as soon as he screamed, of course, he ran off
and he was gone.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Even my camera guy, who had done a lot of
live shots, he goes, Harvin, that was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
That was pretty good. You did not even flint.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So the idea that you know, Rachel's standing there and
she literally has this cockroach apparently crawling all over and
groping her exactly. Doesn't really surprise me, because when you
do enough live shots, and she's been a reporter for
quite a while, you're so focused on your report. Something
like that really is not gonna face, you see.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Sometimes you just turn things over to Mother Nature and
hope that they're a decent co host, and sometimes they're not.
You know, like I just you know, doing the challenge.
We were, you know, live from City Walk with a
giant Bubba Gump shrimp logo behind us, spinning around in circles.
We kept we were bragging for the first two three years, like,
hey man, there's never been rain out here, It's never
rained before.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We got dumped on and there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
There's literally nothing you can in standing water.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
There's boards everywhere.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
You're just hoping there's no elect electrical issues and they're
gonna pop up.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
It's just so.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
But you got to be a professional, Okay, you got
to be a professional. And she did a tremendous job.
And now did you see that kid afterwards? Did you
beat his ass or no?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Oh, he was gone, Like I said, he literally ran up.
I didn't. I wasn't watching him because my camera guy
could see him. He says, as soon as he ran.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Up, he literally screamed like half an inch from my
ear at the top of his lung, and then immediately
turned around and just ran off.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Okay, Oregon or Colorado fan, would you say?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I think it was a Buffalo fan. So it was
a Colorado fan apparently, so he might have been high too.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I'm sure any on both sides, whether it was an
Oregon Duck fan or Colorado Buffalo fan.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
But no, I've had, I've had, I had so many.
I had.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
One time I was out at the Riva or country club,
you know, for the LA Open. You know, he's had
different names over the years, and I was out on
a balcony where it had been empty the day before,
so they thought perfect spot for you. The next day
there was an actual party and we're already committed to
the spot. So I'm on this crowded balcony with my
camera guy and they're people all around us, and this
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woman who's very drunk. As I'm doing my opening, she
literally walks into the shot. She's like, what's your name?
But obliviously in fact, I'm holding a mike and I'm
talking into a camera, and I you know it was
a quick toss, you know, but she.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Literally walks into the Camprah. It's great.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
It's funny too because Jim Hillsar in the camera shot
he said, oh shoot, sought her out afterwards a.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Puff puff pass.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I mean we we did a remote for the draft
that I think it was twenty twenty one or twenty
twenty two when they had the draft, the NFL Draft
in Las Vegas, and so they sent Brady couldn't make
the draft, so they sent LeVar and I to MGM
Grand and they put us in this little it's like
a little gaming like sports bar area and like, yeah,
(37:57):
you guys are gonna do your remote there because it's
three in the morning. But they didn't realize that three
in the morning in Vegas when you're next to Hakkasan
is a problem. So we're on the air as all
the drunks are filtering out from a Thursday into a Friday.
It's Friday morning in Vegas and walking by us and
this woman who was not attractive, but it's worth pointing
(38:21):
that out was all over LeVar. She was all like
she was a huge fan. And it was, you know,
during where people were still paranoid about COVID. So she's
wearing nothing but has a mask on, and we're sitting
there going how are we supposed to handle this by?
Speaker 3 (38:37):
What are you supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
You got people that are annihilated, that are falling down
the escalators, they're going up the wrong one to try
and get upstairs to go back to their room. It's
a mess, but you grind through it exactly.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
You have to. You know, again, how do you handle
these situations? You just do what you have to do. Yeah,
well we're going to do what we have to do.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Coming up tomorrow, same time, same place for Steve Hartman.
I'm Jonas Knox. Thanks for having me hanging out with
us here. Thanks for having us, to Adam, to Zach,
to Ronnie, to all of you who listened, and thank
you to Petro some money for giving us the opportunity.
We'll be back coming up tomorrow for a Thursday tradition
right here on AM five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Check out This is LA Sports.
It's a Petro Some Money Show here on AM five
seventy LA Sports. Steve Hartman Jonas Knox in for the
guys final hour on this we team guy, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Listen, it flies, It flies, by the way, We're going
to do it again tomorrow, that's right, so you will be.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We'll be in for the guys coming up tomorrow as
well too, on a Thursday edition of The Petro Some
Money Show.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Now, look, it's been fun.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We've had a lot of conversation, a lot of goofing around,
a lot of enjoyable stuff. But apparently things not so
fun when it comes to Major League Baseball. And I know, obviously, look,
we've we've discussed this in the past, and there's been
rumblings about this, but apparently, according to a report, MLB
players and team owners aren't just far apart on the
(00:58):
specific proposals of on going labor talks, they also don't
have remotely the same view on the state of the
game that according to Yahoo Sports.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And I hear that and I go, look, I know,
deadlines do deals.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
But.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Maybe it's past trauma of this happening in baseball before
that I can remember that sort of changed and altered
the future and direction of organizations careers back you know,
in ninety four. But I look at this and I go,
that ain't great. That doesn't seem like when dealing with
the power that is the MLB Players Association, that maybe
(01:39):
this whole idea of there being a stoppage and not
getting the baseball we want next year could be a
reality sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, going back to nineteen ninety four, Jonas, obviously back
in the old six ninety days, Tony gwyn was sitting
three ninety four, like we were talking about could he
do it?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I mean, Tony Winn actually at four hundred this year,
not for a millionaires? Do we think?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I mean, if they shut down, what do you mean,
like they're going to cancel the World Series? Like really,
it never will happen. They will never do that. And
they did it. Yeah, and people forget this. They did
not start the next season. Eighteen games were canceled. The
next year was either Bruce Bochi took over as the
manager of the Podres and that season was only one
hundred and forty four games. So even though they wiped
out the postseason in ninety four, they still did not
(02:24):
have an agreement in place until they'd already canceled eighteen
games into the next season.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You remember the Expos that year was the best team
in baseball.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I mean loaded, I mean just loaded with everybody. I
mean from Larry Walker to Pedro Martinez Martinez.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, I mean it was just freaking loaded, was it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Matt Williams on that team was Matt Williams and I
think Gla Guerrero.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I mean they had everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I mean it was the best, best record in baseball,
no question about that.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So nothing has changed. That's that's the crazy part.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
You know, we were talking earlier about nineteen ninety four
World Cup here in the United States and where we
are in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Well, this is the same thing in baseball in nineteen
ninety four.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I understand this about the Major League Baseball Players Union.
It is not only the strongest union in sports, it
is the strongest union in this country.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
They never break rank ever, respect ever. Literally nobody walks, nobody.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And they are making it infinitely clear, no matter how
much Rob Manfred, the Commissioner of Baseball, tries to say, well, gee,
everybody has you know, this is a different time.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Everyone loves a salary cap. It will never happen. Never. Never.
Players will sit out and sit out and sit out
and sit.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Out if your only alternative is a salary cap. The
only thing that the players want is to raise the
basement and those teams that refused to spend money.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, raise that basement level.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But as far as putting a cap on the top spenders,
it's ever going to be approved by the players union.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. It didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Bryce Harper almost beat up Rob Manford in the locker
room last year when the subject was even brought up,
and they got into each got in each other's faces,
and we're about ready to throw down.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I'm with you, man, And this this idea that all
of a sudden, after all these years, they're gonna cave
with the salary skyrocketing and with you know, the and
the part about ninety four.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
And I still remember this, and.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It didn't I understood it at the time, but I
was so young that I didn't really understand the grand
scale of it. But my older brother was a diehard
Cincinnati Reds fan. And he was a Reds fan because
when he grow up, the Reds and the big Red
Machine and all that stuff. So he loved the Cincinnati Reds,
really never followed the team after ninety four. He was
(04:49):
so disgusted by the stoppage and not being able to
be on the same page that he just kind of
was over and after that, and it's what led to
maguire and so and the steroid era and all that.
That's why whenever Major League Baseball comes out and condemns
those guys for taking steroids after the fact, it's like, stop.
You needed them to get people to fall in love
(05:11):
with baseball again. Like, because so many people were disenchanted
with the idea of baseball based on what happened in
ninety four that it just really lost a lot of momentum.
And I look at baseball now and I go, look,
the World Baseball Classic is awesome. I know there's some
people here, especially at the blow towards, and aren't fans
of the WBC.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I think the game is at a point to where
it's speeding up the you know, the pitch clock.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I'm with you, Jonas. Baseball is in a great, great spot.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
And I look at it and I go, if you
all of a sudden, stop the momentum.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Now everybody suffers.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But it feels like that's where we're headed because the
MLBPA is doing their job and people cannot like it
all they want, but they're standing their ground and they're
looking after the players that they represent. And those players
have stuck by that players Association for since the beginning
of time, and I don't see that stopping now just
because Rob Manford wants to give a couple of press
(06:08):
conferences about it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
All right, So here's what you need to do. This
is where the players argument. The reason the NFL is
healthy is that it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Goes all the way back to.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Pete Roselle, who made a decision for the Green Bays
of the world to survive on the same level as
the New York and la of the world, we have
to have an equal distribution of the television money, which
by the way, coincides with the salary cap every year.
So if you look at the dynamic of the salary
cap in the NFL, the salary cap is set with
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the equal distribution of the network TV money. In other words,
all that money is, it's all paid for it and okay,
so how you run your operation, that's up to you.
How much money you want to spend on coaches or
front office or your scouting department. That's the difference between
the organizations. But as far as the salaries are concerned,
it's basically a wash. At least the under the cap
(07:01):
based on the equal distribution of the network television money. Now,
I know, we don't have that in Major League Baseball.
You have regional contracts, right so you got Spectrum, you
got the Yes Network, you got you know, some of
these powerhouse television networks for some of these teams. There
are other teams that don't even have a TV contract
right now. And so what the players are saying is, look,
(07:24):
your inability to figure out the dynamic of the economics
on the owner side is your problem.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
It's not our problem.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You guys have got to figure out how all thirty
teams get on the same page and figure out how
to lump all that money together, and then we don't have.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
To worry about a salary cap, because.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Then there'll be an equal distribution of the money, just
like the NFL has.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Look in the NBA, right, you have a salary cap.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And yet we have teams that are perpetually at the bottom.
I mean the idea that the owner's throat the salary cap.
Jonas is like, well we got equal to playing field.
Well there's no equally you know the playing field. Bad
organizations are always going to be bad organizations.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So that is a weak argument.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
So I understand from the player's standpoint that, And again
the owners are going to try to blame the players.
They do the same thing in nineteen ninety four. It's
all your fault. It's all your fault.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
There is equal share here, believe on both sides.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
But again the owners are going to have to go
back to the drawing board because if this is their
only card they're playing is to have a salary cap,
there will not be a baseball season in twenty twenty seven.
There will not be a baseball season next year at all,
which just sucks.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I mean the thought of that, because I don't know
how how you feel about it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Maybe this is just you know, having you know, a
kid now and sort of going through the process. But
I get excited for spring training. Man, I know it's exhibition.
I know it's oh listen, you know, I mean, you
know what split squads and.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The cac distingres. I love baseball. I love it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Man, I think it's like you say, all the changes
that made you know, the idea of a pitch clock,
to me was like, that's not going to it's worked it.
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I go to a Dodger game, now two and a
half hours, we're out of there. Great game, love it,
it's great.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's still not a big fan of interleague players, really
diminished the All Star Game and some of the other things,
but there are things they have done recently. It's a
TikTok's plus it has become a TikTok sport.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It's in a very healthy spot. Don't screw it up.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And there's so many great players and great stories. And look,
I've always said with the Dodgers, I mean, the season
can be I don't want to say boring, but predictable
because you look at it and go, well, what does
it matter. They're just going to win the division anyways
and hopefully get a buy in the postseason, even though
they didn't last year. But I look at it, I
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go but it's still the opportunity for you to go
and see Hall of Fame players any night of the
week at Dodger Stadium, and they've got plenty of them.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Oh here.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
It's Freeman Otani movie. That's I mean, you name it.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
So when I see baseball in this spot to where
now they find themselves looking at a work stoppage, you
would hope cooler heads prevail. I don't think it's happening, man.
I think we are headed towards a work stoppage, which
I think is a bummer for everybody. And I can't
see how this gets resolved in time that we're not
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getting to talk spring training and get ready for that.
And I hate talking like that because it's so much
fun to watch and so enjoyable, and the sport has
come so far, but it feels like it's going to
be ninety four all over again.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, going back to ninety four ninety five because it
carried into the next year.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
How is that resolved? He said, Well, how is the resolved?
I don't know. We don't have a salary cap, do you.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So the owner's cave to the players demands players won.
I mean I remember talking to the late great Marvin Miller.
This guy changed. There is no more consequential person in
the history of Major League Baseball than when Marvin Miller
took over the Players Union in the mid six these
which went to free agency. You know, I mean, I
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hate to use the word, you know, like a slave.
I mean, it's nothing like that. The players are compensated.
But you had no freedom. You had no freedom of choice.
You were owned by a team until they either traded
you to a team that you had no choice where
you were traded, or they released you and you were
out on the street. So he changed that whole dynamic.
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But in the process and Donald Fair took over. You
remember how this this is never they have never waivered.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
They did.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
The strength of this Major League Baseball's players is like unlike.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Any any union in this country.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's how powerful they are. They will not chip away,
break rank, no chance.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I mean, look the astros cheating scandal, Like what did
they guys have to do? Come out and release a
statement a couple of statements, and it's like, all right,
I mean, you're gonna get booed for the rest of
your career when you go to Dodger Stadium or but
you know, listen, this is because the MLBPA, because the
strength of the Players Association, and it's the envy. I mean, look,
you ask NFL players like, hey, how would you feel
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about having the MLBP, they would love it. I mean,
you imagine having somebody that strong to be able to
stand their ground and win time after time after time
to get the owners to cave. Like you pointed out,
if you're the owners, just understand that that's the reality
of where this is going.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Otherwise the deal is not getting done.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Think about players to get pusted for pds, right, they
may serve a fifty games set, spinch o one hundred
games even the entire season.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
But you know what, they don't lose their contracts. Yep,
they're not voided. They still get paid. A Rod still
got paid at the end of his deal. How about
Ryan Bryan remember him in Milwaukee? He got busted and suspended.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
He played out the rest of his contract in Milwaukee,
not a shadow of what he had been as a player,
got paid every single cent of it.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Look at the Fernando Tazzis junior and it's why you know.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
There was a guy for the Mets, I forget his name,
who got popped. He pissed hot a few years ago,
and it's like, man, how could you do that?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Such he needate. He ruined his career.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
He he came from a small country. He came from nothing.
He's still got every cent of that deal, and maybe
with the steroids, maybe with that extra help that helped
get him that deal never been and he gets to
take two to three to four million dollars whatever it was,
back home to his country, where that dollar is going
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to go a lot farther than what I had here.
So yeah, I'm with you, man. I think ultimately the
players are going to win this thing. I just don't
know how long it's going to take before we get
to that conclusion. He's Steve Hartman, I'm Jonas Knox in
for Petros and Money here on the Blowtorch AM five
seventy LA Sports. Up Next, does this person feel as
down on the whole situation as we do? You'll get
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the answer right here on AM five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The Petrone Show podcasted at A five seventy LA sports com.
You are listening to the Petros and Money Show PMS.
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But PMS, well, Petros money aren't here right now. Yours truly,
Steve Harbin, along with a great Jonas Knox, we are
hanging out not only today, but we're gonna hang out tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I know that you talked to pee quite a bit.
Do you have any clue what the guys are doing
over the next.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Couple of days or as far as what do you mean.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Are they hanging out or are they just taking day? So,
I mean, what what do they do on their day safe?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
So, like I've heard rumblings about you know, money, uh
maybe being in Hawaii. I think Petros is at the
Mountain West Media days in Vegas. I think he went
to Vegas for that, So he's, uh, you know, going
to catch up with guys like luminaries like Timmy Chang,
you know, and and a couple of new members of
the U of the Mountain West.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So I mean, look, this is people spend their off
time in different places.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
They like to like to bounce it around, and Matt's
out surfing and Petrous's you know, grinding in Vegas, you know,
and smoke filled casinos.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
More power to them.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Are we all ready to bring on the great Bob
Nightingale Because joining us right now is a man that
has covered baseball for a long time. I've talked Abob
many times over these many many years Jonas, and it's
great to have on the man from USA today. Of course,
he's worked for everyone, including the LA Times back in
the day, the great Bob Not and Gale, Bob, Steve
Harbin here along with Jonas Knox.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
How you doing today, Bob, Yeah, I'm doing great.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Good to your voice again and.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
It's great to hear you as well, Bob.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
All right, So before we get to the future of
Major League Baseball, Jonas and I were talking about the
All Star Game, and you know, I thought they did
a pretty good job in Philadelphia. We like the signing routine,
you know, but that was sort of cool. And but
you know, Bob, you and I go back to a
time and you know it was nationally versus America League.
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There was clear divisions between the two leagues that in
the World Series with the only time you got to
see the best of the best of the two leagues
on the same field. At the same time, we've seen
the end of the Pro Bowl, We've seen the end
of the NBA All Star Game, the NHL All Star
Game died years ago.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Would you do anything to help save the Baseball All
Star Game?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Or are you convinced that the way it's formata right
now is good enough to hang on for the next
twenty thirty fifty years.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Well, you'd wish the players wouldn't back out of it,
you know. I know some managers and I think DM
Roberts came alluded to it, like, hey, if you don't
play an end, if you don't show up.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
You shouldn't get your All Star bonus.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
You know, you should you get a thing in your
resume that you made the All Star team, you know
that sort of thing. I think that's why Rob Manford
in the Commissioner's office said, Okay, if you guys want
to do Olympics, that's fine, but you'd back out. You know,
you're not gonna play for three weeks. You give me
us a spinning list for Major League Baseball, you know
that sort of thing. So that's a part. Too many
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players back.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Out, and it's you know, it's not the same.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I don't think we've ever had the same We're not
going to have the days of you know, Pete Rose
not going to over Ray Fosse, that that sort of thing,
and not having the big speeches by former ALE and
n All players say hey, we got to win this
one for pride. You know, I don't think people have
been really you know, even realize, okay, you know who
won the last few All Star games, West streak. You know,
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nobody really cares. It's just all kind of blending together. Bob.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
We were talking about just sort of the differences between
the MLB All Star Game and say, you know, the
NFL and the Pro Bowl or the NBA All Star Game,
And in my mind, it's the best all star game.
Major League Baseball's All Star Game is the best of
the bunch because you can replicate an exhibition baseball game.
You can't really replicate an exhibition NFL game, and the
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intensity of the NBA All Star Game just isn't there.
But have you noticed any sort of a maybe there's
a disinterest just from when you started covering baseball, started
going and covering the event to now that would make
you concerned about what the future could look like for it.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yeah, I mean, like you said, it's so by far
the best one. You know, in the NFL, it was
kind of abandoned it. You know, Hockey is you know,
done completely different.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
You know, even the NBA.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
With their different things with the quarters and stuff like that.
So I'm not sure you know what you could do
unless you just say, you know what they what the
winning players get you know, two hundred thousand dollars, losing
player gets nothing, you know, that sort.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Of thing, you know, And I think it did kind.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Of you know, people made fun of it. This game
shouldn't count when when whoever you know won the All
Star Game at the sadding home field advantage, you know,
at least that was something. So yeah, they're just so
little incentive or really known sent them to win these
All Star games.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Now, Bob, I was sharing the story with Jonah Steve
Garvey's first All Star Game in San Diego in seventy four,
he was a writing candidate. Not only was the MVP
of the game, he played all nine innings. Bob and so,
one of the suggestions I've had, and I don't know
if the players would ever go for this, but the
idea of bringing somebody back into the game. Let's use
show Hey as an example. Let's say show he had
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played in this game. He's batting lead off, gets a
couple of bats in, and then he's done for the day.
Maybe he gets out of his clothes. But I would
like to reserve the possibility maybe one player, two players,
where the game's now in the ninth inning, games on
the line, it's a one run game, and we have
an option to bring somebody back.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Into the game.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Okay, I know you can't do this in a regular game,
but it is an exhibition game.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
A would you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Buy into something like that? Be Do you think any
player would go along with that? Because I think Cody
Bellinger said it best when he got the MVP where
you're still in his Yankee uniform and they said.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
You know, there's a chance he could be the MVP.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Maybe stay in your uniform instead of getting back in
your street close but something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Would that appeal to you or that's just too outrageous?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
No, it is a good idea, I really do. I mean,
why not they uh, because you kind of want to
let everybody play. But say it's the key moments to
the game's tied in the ninth or tenth inning, Well
you know, now they have a home run derby. Instead
of doing that, you know, let's let the stars come back.
That would prevent actually a lot of players from leaving.
So you know, I'm not sure they go. You know,
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when you win that clubhouse after the games, you don't
have to have the teams are done.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
So but no, that that would be cool do something
like that.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
I mean, as it is, you know, the the two
managers have to designate a few hitters in case there
is a home run derby to decide it, you know,
like like last year. So uh but yeah, I'm I
think two with with Bellinger what he said. It also
shows you, you know, how dull that game was yesterday
in the sense where he gets a two run two
runs single the first inning in the A hold on
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you might be the m v P.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It was that kind of night, Bob Night and gooil
and joining us here on a five seventy l A
sports Steve Hartman, Jonas Knox in perpetual some money. So
you know, obviously we're gonna Steve and I will get
into this a little bit later on, But what are
your vibes or your feelings in talking with people around
the league about whether or not we're going to have
a season next year, whether.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Or not it's going to start on time?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
With all the stuff out there, whether it's the owners,
the players association, from people you've talked with, what's sort
of the expectation for how this thing is going to go.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Well, well, I think we'll definitely have a season. It's
just a question. I know, how long is it? I
still think it will be a minimum one hundred and
forty games. I want to be shocked with.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
One sixty two.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
But you know the last time it was a nine
nine day lockdown in twenty twenty one, and just you know, barely,
you know, barely.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Got in the double hitters and things.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Like that started late. I think you know, one thing,
as you talked to both sides, is okay, it's going
to probably take one missed paycheck. Find the players to
see how they react. Is it gonna be panic? Are
they stayst wrong? And then if the owners send said okay,
they're not budging, you know, then maybe they'll move off
the US salary cap. But the censor's weakness, you know,
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it may go on for a little while, but I
think you know, nothing big is going to happen unless
there's a serious threat, if not an actual miss paycheck,
you know which you don't You get paid every two weeks,
so you're talking about two weeks after the season starts.
You know that would be laid by that, and then
of course you got the spring training.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Well, for those of us that were a round Bob
back in nineteen ninety four, and I was down in
San Diego doing our show when they shut down the season.
Tony Gwynn, of course, was hitting three ninety four at
the time. We were talking about a possible four hundred season.
And what people may forget is the season the next
season nineteen ninety five, missed eighteen games and they still
didn't have this thing resolved to even start the next
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season on time.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
The idea of a salary cap is it's a deal breaker.
I mean, the players will never go this, Bob, you
know as well as I do.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Not only is the MLB Players Union the strongest union
in sports, this is the strongest union in America.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
They never break rank ever.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And so you know, I think the owners are gonna
have to figure out an alternative here. And part of
it is just figuring out some kind of revenue share
because we know that you know, we have spectrum here,
We got Yes Network with the Yankees. There are certain
teams that are bringing a whole lot more as far
as their television deals are concerned than some other teams
that have no television deals at all. But if you're
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sitting there, the players that are like, you know, this
is this is really a problem amongst you owners to
figure out how you can you know, share some of
the wealth that you have amongst you. Yes, somebody are
more rich, Well, you have to share it, just like
the NFL agreed, you know, many many years ago with
Pete Roselle to share all the television network money equally,
so everyone's on an equal playing field. And I guess
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from the player standpoint, I think that's that's what they're
looking at. Say, don't look at us. I mean, I
know you're trying to paint us out to be the
bad guys here, but you need to get your house
in order before you come back to us with some
kind of proposal.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Well yeah, I mean it's the thing that's been going
on forever.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I mean, look at the owner's latest proposal. That proposal
has every team sharing the TV money equally. So the
Dodgers are sharing their three hundred and thirty million dollars
with the Brewers, who we're getting about twenty twenty five million.
Now that's only if the players, you know, take a
salary cap. If you know, the no salary cap. The
owners aren't sharing. So you know, you can understand both sides.
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I can understand why the small market teams would love
to get one at TV money. But then the large
market teams are saying, wait a minute. Now, you know
we just paid you know, two billion dollars for our team.
You spent you know, two hundred million dollars to buy years.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
You know, they.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Shouldn't be equal. You know, the Yankees and Dodgers shouldn't
have have equal value as Milwaukee Brewers.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
You know, it's not.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
It's not the NFL, you know, with the pack, you know,
the NBA as big as you know, the Rams or
something else. You know, it's just you know that horses
at the barn. So you know, I know you're saying, Steve,
and I think the owners are trying to jump on
what happened in twenty one. In twenty one, member the
executive committee of the eight guys said hey, we're not
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returning to play. We wanted to keep negotiating. Then they
went to the rank and file, went off thirty teams and
the team's go to twenty six to four waymnue. Now
we're playing. So our teams are kind of trying to
feed off that said, Okay, if that kind of worked
in twenty one, maybe it'll work now. I think they
realized this is are probably their best and last chance
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for a salary cap and say if it works, And
that's why I think they're going to, you know, right
now at the minimum salary you know, is seven hundred
eight thousand, I think they're going to jump that thing
up to at least one point two million, at one
point twenty five. I think the arbitration guys will be
a bigger pool. I think pre agency will drop down
to five years instead this if you're a thirty year older.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
So I think they're going.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
To try to get the lower class and middle class
to agree with them. And like Bruce Meyers.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Said the other day in this meeting, it's that, you know.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
That's what you owners do, not just baseball but all
sports is you know, kind of dibide and trying to
trying to pit the the young guys and the middle
class against the rich players.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Bob Nightingale joining us here from USA today on AM
five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Steve Hartman, Jonas Knox in for Petro some money.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So I want to ask you, because obviously there was
a trade that went down in Major League Baseball earlier
to where you had Lance McCullers go from Houston to Milwaukee.
Not the biggest blockbuster trade there is. But we are
getting to the point in the year where now teams
are trying to figure out where they stand. And I'm
just wondering how much has the wild card impacted what
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teams are going to do at this deadline because obviously
out here the Dodge j there's been ter schooble, but
now Detroit's, you know, maybe a little bit back into
the mix. Where what are you hearing from people in
and around the league about how active this summer could
be from a trade standpoint?
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Well, yeah, I mean, just say, what's going to happen
the next three weeks. They're really going to decide everything.
The trouble is, you get about you know, twenty three,
twenty four teams still in this thing in all about
two teams in the American League. So if you're a
nationally team, if you want to be realistic, you know,
instead just playing in the playoffs, So you have to think, Okay,
do we have enough, you know, shure we go for it.
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Do we have enough to beat up the Dodgers, Appillies
or Atlanta? You know, you know, three three huge teams
obviously lived by the Dodgers in the American League. You say,
you know what, we just get in the dance. We're
okay because there's no there's not one super team in
the American League. You know, then they don't have a
Dodgers in the American League.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
So, uh, I.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Think it's all going to come down to what happens here,
you know, in these you know, these next two to
three weeks. I think it's gonna be tough. You know,
take a trek Scooba. If you're the Tigers, you're with
the like three games of wild card spot. I don't
know how the world you can trade Eric Scuba. You
got to go for this thing. Uh, you know, you
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know that, you know, people bring up the Angels, but
the Angels want about four games back and you know
in that wild card race, and it didn't make sense
at the time. So but I think in the Tiger's case,
you know, you look at a week to AL centralist
and how weak to AL is in general, why you know,
why not why not go for it?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Well, I tell you what, I think we can all
agree on this, Bob. Baseball is in a good spot
right now in terms of the popularity of the sport.
You know, I'm old school, but the pitch clock has
been genius. I mean, to cut the games down from
three hours plus the two and a half hours has
been great for the sport.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
It's a TikTok sport.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Young people are into baseball, and to screw this whole
thing up, you got to come to some resolt from
the player's side, from the owner side. Figure this out.
Don't screw it up, because right now things are great
in baseball. Things always go with Bob Nightingale. Bob, it's
great to catch up with again. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Sure my pleasure.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Thank you, guys.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Take care.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
That's Bob Nightingale ussay today. So we can only hope
Jonas that they can figure this thing out, because we
do not want to. I mean, obviously greater things are
great here in Dodgers Lamb, but just in general, baseball
is in a good spot.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I don't know. I mean, look, we're gonna get into
it later, but a lot more optimistic than I am.
I'll just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I'm keeping my fingers crossed right now. All right, much
more coming up, Steve Harbin. Jonas knocks in for Petro
some money. This is a in five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
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Speaker 1 (29:47):
Now it's a Petro Some Money Show here on A
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knocks in for the guys. A reminder we will be
back in for tomorrow's show here on a Thursday here
on the Petro Some Money Show. So to be Steve
and I hanging out with you again as we get
you set for a Friday and a busy weekend as
the Dodgers return from the All Star break Steve, before
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Speaker 2 (30:38):
Is Now Wait a second, I've heard your weekend show
and you know you get.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Is that for real? Because I know everybody at Fox
loves you. I mean, you do an unbelievable All those tweets,
all those are all real.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I Mean, I got a guy who calls me Monica
Lewinski Junior every week.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
It's wondering, it's unbelievable. Play off my boys, Jonas, come on,
my wife, It's like, why do you post that stuff?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Because sometimes I'll throw it on my Instagram page and
he's like, why do you post that stuff?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I'm like, cause it's funny.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I don't you know, way back in the day when
when Chet forty had passed away and Philly Billy Warrendale
took over as my new co host, and these are
the days when we only had fax machines back in
the day, and so you.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Know, he was East Coast.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
So initially everyone seemed, you know, sympathetic to the cause.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But it didn't take long, like, get.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
This guy off the air, and I'm going back checking faxes,
you know, during the breaks, and they're just stacking up.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
So I just went on there.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I go, hey, Billy, we got some faxes. Here says oh,
this guy says you suck. Here's another guy says why
is this guy.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
On the air?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I hope this guy is the same fate as Chet,
I mean, and he's.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Looking at me like what are you doing? Why you know,
on the air, but he's like, why are you doing this?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And I realized I needed to have people sympathetic to him.
I realized I'm going to be the bad guy here.
I want people to like him. And then they turned
on me to be the bad guy, which I can
I can handle. It is one thing for somebody to
tweet at you to sit in a fact, it was
we'd gotten past the curly facts and we actually got
(32:10):
like faxes like this, but they would float in and
as soon as you start radium, you know how it
is that Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Because that everyone's like, well, I want to get on
the air too, and so I'll just clile on and
take it to another level.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Now, speaking of where we spend our time.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
On the weekends, uh and and another parts during the
week there Steve over in Sherman Oaks, we got an
issue here. A cockroach made this, according to the report,
an unexpected appearance. During a live kt L A weather
report on Tuesday night. Rachel Mentov was reporting live from
(32:46):
Sherman Oaks on the lingering effects of Southern California's heat
wave and when the insect landed on her shoulder and
appeared to crawl across her chest. Now that feels like
a salt the way that that is. That's that's described there.
I would also say this for anybody that's been in
Sherman Oaks, specifically in the Fox Sports radio studios. I
(33:06):
mean cockroaches are just part of the family there, Like yeah,
I mean, like that's just that's part of the deal.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Is there any time of the day you haven't been
in those studios?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
No, But I remember years ago, the great Frank Pollock. Yeah, Frank,
when he worked over there, every time a cockroach popped
up in the building, he would say and out chafe.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
This used to be a Denny's.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
It's like, Frank, there's no cockroach that's still for fishing bait.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Because you know, I love this, I mean the same thing,
all right, So what's going on here with this? Steve?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So when I see this story about Rachel, and obviously
I work at KTLA, so I know all the names here.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
My first thought about this is.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
When you're doing live TV, and I've done obviously a
lot of live TV over the years, especially when you're
on location, right, I would say this, like, you know,
I've done live shots outside of many arenas. Now, when
you're on the floor, it's easy, you're you're secluded, but
if you're outdoors, you're open into the elements. And I
was sharing this story with Adam. I was talking about
(34:05):
there was a game. It was a pac twelve championship
basketball game between Colorado and Oregon at Staplesenter.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
But there's nobody there. Nobody there, and so we're.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Doing I don't know, I'm doing a live shot outside
of Staple Center.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
There's literally ghosts.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'm literally thinking, is there anybody actually inside to do this?
So as I literally camera goes on for my live shot,
I can hear behind me somebody running, but I can't
turn around. So as I start to talk, some kid,
college kid comes running up right into the shot next
to me, turns into my left ear and just screams
(34:46):
as loud as he can into my ear on live television.
Now I've seen the tape. I did not even flinch.
I finished my report. All I kept thinking is if
that kid is standing next to me when I'm done.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
He's dead, Like this kid will be dead. Of course,
as soon as he screamed, of course, he ran off
and he was gone.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Even my camera guy, who had done a lot of
live shots, he goes, Harvin, that was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
That was pretty good. You did not even flint.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So the idea that you know, Rachel's standing there and
she literally has this cockroach apparently crawling all over and
groping her exactly. Doesn't really surprise me, because when you
do enough live shots, and she's been a reporter for
quite a while, you're so focused on your report. Something
like that really is not gonna face, you see.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Sometimes you just turn things over to Mother Nature and
hope that they're a decent co host, and sometimes they're not.
You know, like I just you know, doing the challenge.
We were, you know, live from City Walk with a
giant Bubba Gump shrimp logo behind us, spinning around in circles.
We kept we were bragging for the first two three years, like,
hey man, there's never been rain out here, It's never
rained before.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We got dumped on and there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
There's literally nothing you can in standing water.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
There's boards everywhere.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
You're just hoping there's no elect electrical issues and they're
gonna pop up.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
It's just so.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
But you got to be a professional, Okay, you got
to be a professional. And she did a tremendous job.
And now did you see that kid afterwards? Did you
beat his ass or no?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Oh, he was gone, Like I said, he literally ran up.
I didn't. I wasn't watching him because my camera guy
could see him. He says, as soon as he ran.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Up, he literally screamed like half an inch from my
ear at the top of his lung, and then immediately
turned around and just ran off.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Okay, Oregon or Colorado fan, would you say?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I think it was a Buffalo fan. So it was
a Colorado fan apparently, so he might have been high too.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I'm sure any on both sides, whether it was an
Oregon Duck fan or Colorado Buffalo fan.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
But no, I've had, I've had, I had so many.
I had.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
One time I was out at the Riva or country club,
you know, for the LA Open. You know, he's had
different names over the years, and I was out on
a balcony where it had been empty the day before,
so they thought perfect spot for you. The next day
there was an actual party and we're already committed to
the spot. So I'm on this crowded balcony with my
camera guy and they're people all around us, and this
(37:07):
woman who's very drunk. As I'm doing my opening, she
literally walks into the shot. She's like, what's your name?
But obliviously in fact, I'm holding a mike and I'm
talking into a camera, and I you know it was
a quick toss, you know, but she.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Literally walks into the Camprah. It's great.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
It's funny too because Jim Hillsar in the camera shot
he said, oh shoot, sought her out afterwards a.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Puff puff pass.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I mean we we did a remote for the draft
that I think it was twenty twenty one or twenty
twenty two when they had the draft, the NFL Draft
in Las Vegas, and so they sent Brady couldn't make
the draft, so they sent LeVar and I to MGM
Grand and they put us in this little it's like
a little gaming like sports bar area and like, yeah,
(37:57):
you guys are gonna do your remote there because it's
three in the morning. But they didn't realize that three
in the morning in Vegas when you're next to Hakkasan
is a problem. So we're on the air as all
the drunks are filtering out from a Thursday into a Friday.
It's Friday morning in Vegas and walking by us and
this woman who was not attractive, but it's worth pointing
(38:21):
that out was all over LeVar. She was all like
she was a huge fan. And it was, you know,
during where people were still paranoid about COVID. So she's
wearing nothing but has a mask on, and we're sitting
there going how are we supposed to handle this by?
Speaker 3 (38:37):
What are you supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
You got people that are annihilated, that are falling down
the escalators, they're going up the wrong one to try
and get upstairs to go back to their room. It's
a mess, but you grind through it exactly.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
You have to. You know, again, how do you handle
these situations? You just do what you have to do. Yeah,
well we're going to do what we have to do.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Coming up tomorrow, same time, same place for Steve Hartman.
I'm Jonas Knox. Thanks for having me hanging out with
us here. Thanks for having us, to Adam, to Zach,
to Ronnie, to all of you who listened, and thank
you to Petro some money for giving us the opportunity.
We'll be back coming up tomorrow for a Thursday tradition
right here on AM five seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Check out This is LA Sports.
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