May 28, 2026 • 48 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The all right, here we go, Fred Rogan, and look
who's here today for Rodney. It's our dear friend, America's
All Star Jonas Knox. Jonas, good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, so Fred going on? You ready to have some fun?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Oh? Yeah? And the thing I want to start with today,
I do want to start with this if I can
just take a moment off the top to please, all Right,
I do not want to be misrepresented at any point
on today's program, and when you are on with me,
there seems to be a history of that. Somehow things
that might be said get lost in translation, and all
(00:36):
of a sudden it's as if I've attacked someone when
I've not even mentioned their name. So I would appreciate
it if we didn't go through that today. Can we
at least agree to that, please?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I have found that the people that I work with,
who I've had the best chemistry doing shows with, there's
a constant theme. And this could be Brady Quinn, this
could be LeVar Arrington, this could be Fred Rogan, this
could be anybody that I have a good chemistry with.
(01:07):
There's a theme. Okay, it's usually a race to see
who can misrepresent the other one first. That's the theme,
because that's the fun of it, because you're hoping that
somebody is tuning in for the first time and you
tell a tale about the other guy that's so unbelievable
to the common listener, but to the new one, they're like, wow, really,
(01:32):
So that's kind of the So I'm gonna I'll try,
but I feel like you also do that to me,
And it's kind of a little bit difficult for us
to just go and reject, reject that whole process and
that whole idea since we've been doing this since the
day we first worked together.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
All right, So the bottom line is this, first, I
don't do it to you. I feel that was a
rip in my emotional fabric and it's not me back
on my heels. I mean, I don't know. And if
you look at your childhood as you grew up, it
was it was me that told everybody the truth that
you were amish.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah. I was Cooper Cup before Cooper Cuff exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And no one knew that before we started working.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Together, okay, yeah, And and and a lot of people
would would question that, and they would doubt the validity
of that, and I would say, come on, man, you've
seen Fred would Fred Lae? Okay, what would what would he?
Would he spin a yarn like that? And and you know,
misrepresent somebody like that and not be honest about their
background and their upbringing and uh. And I think the
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universal answer to that would be, yeah, he probably would.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That doesn't mean that you're doing it with me.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
That's fair. I mean we figured that out when we
realized that your name and old biblical name Jonas was
actually used very much in the Amish community when your
parents were growing up in Pennsylvania, when when they would
travel around by Oxen.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I see because I see that what you're doing there,
you're trying to get me to because you're thinking about
the Kingpin, and you're thinking about you know, when he
when he thinks he's milking a cow it turns out
it's a bowl, and and so they're wondering, you know,
what what do you do with it? And I think
you're trying to that this is sort of a subtle
shot at me. And I don't know what you're getting at,
but in today's climate, I'm deeply offended by that threat,
(03:17):
really deeply offended.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, don't you don't you find it interesting. It doesn't
matter what you say to anybody, they're offended today.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, yeah, this is and I mean that's how things
are today. Nobody's got a sense of humor anymore. You've
got celebrity roasts that happen. It's it's a roast. The
idea and concept of a roast is that everybody gets
lit up. That's that's what a roast is. And yet
there's people that are on the roast who dish it out,
(03:48):
get ripped on themselves, and then complain after about the
content of the roast that they were a part of,
Like just yeah, you can't. It's just a whole vibe nowadays,
you know, you just can't. You can't mess around anymore.
Everybody's everybody's got a soft spot and they just expose
it more and more now often.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Let's make this a let's make this a safe zone today.
This is a safe zone. What happens here stays here.
It's just between us. Yeah, and I mean nobody's listening,
so it really is between us.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I'm into it. I mean, you could say whatever you
want to me. I don't care, really don't care. Doesn't
bother me. What joke any joke is on the table.
Whatever you want to use.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
What could I say to you that would not bother you?
What would be something if I said it that wouldn't
bother you?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I don't. I mean, look, Kevin knows me. Kevin and
I worked together a long time. There's just not really
anything that bothers me. I'm sorry, I just it just
doesn't to me. Whatever you got to say, you gotta say.
And you know, funny is funny. And so if you
want to, if you want to light me up and
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you want to tell people I'm amish, or that you
know I mistook a cow for a bowl, or if
you want to, you know, like any anything that you
want to get to at some point through the course
of the show, let's just do it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I mean, Kevin, do you believe that that Jonas does
not take anything seriously? He can deal with anything. You've
never seen Jonas upset in one moment of knowing him.
Any answer would be no, never, no, never, once no.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And if anything, the comments that he gets on X
are as vile as he gets and you know what
he does, he reads them on the air. Yeah, And
the ones that he can't read on the air, he
tries to censor as much as he possibly can. Yeah,
and sometimes I, you know, I'm not able to do that,
and I get dumped because I I maybe read a
little bit too much that I shouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So what would somebody say to you on extrage?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh my god, I mean I've been like, there's it's
a it's bad. It's uh, I mean, you know it's
it's bad. I mean any kind of slur you could
possibly think of if I make mention of it could
be if I make mention of Lebron James, it's you know,
Lebron Pom pom waiver fangirl go back to bleeping your
(06:09):
bleep to him while he's working out in his in
his tight pand like, I mean, it's just it's absurd.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You think Lebron's good, you think you think you're a
Lebron guy.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I wasn't aware of it, but that people hear what
they want to hear. Man Like, people will hear what
they want to hear and just insert and add whatever
they want to it to get them to believe that
that's exactly what they heard when it's completely the opposite.
And instead of me just being arguing the point being no,
that's not true. I don't believe that, and you say, yeah, whatever,
(06:42):
here it is. This is what they said. I think
it's funny. I just think it's it's funny, you know, like,
all right, hey, look, funny's funny. I'm just not gonna
not gonna take offense to it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Kevin, here's one for us. So last week I'm checking
X and I look and somebody sends this tweet out
and said, yeah, just like always, there's Fred and Rodney
ripping Lebron. I thought, do you even listen to the show? No? No, no, no, no,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry that was incorrect. It was just
like always, there's Fred and Rodney kissing Lebron's ass. That's what.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
That's what you do.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I just looked at it. I thought, there's no, there's
not even a reason to respond to that. Do you
even listen to the show?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Tend people hear what they want to hear. They go
in already expecting you to say something or feel a
certain way, and if you give them even the slightest
in that direction, they're gonna run with it and fill
in the blanks from there. There's no there is no
nuance anymore. There's no shades of gray. It's you're this
way or that way, and if and if you're one
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side or the other, you're gonna get destroyed for it.
It's just it's it's the way the world works these days.
You know, things have changed. But again, funny is funny.
If it's funny, I'm sorry, it's gotta be right on
the air.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I thought there was nothing. There was nothing funny about
Otani last night. Would you agree there was nothing funny
about that?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Guy?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Had no hitter?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
He had a no hitter. Apparently his English has gotten
better because some people have deciphered the F bomb that
he dropped on the mound.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So no, he said that in Japanese.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Are you sure?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, that he said that, But it was in Japanese.
It's said the same way in both languages. Really no,
I made that up.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh see, you know, there we go, and we're off
right there right there. Couldn't help himself, that whole diatribe
of let's do this all the up and up. Let's
be honest here, all right, No, no, no underhanded movement here, guys.
We're looking for a legit card game, and Fred's got
an ace of spades hidden but hitting on his lap
(08:50):
that he's gonna slide into the deck whenever he gets
an opportunity. He just can't help themselves. But you know,
but I don't know that he's caped, because this is
the same thing that we see with great athletes all
the time to where it's very rare you'll get a
great athlete who stops to smell the roses in real time.
(09:15):
It's usually not until after the fact that they go,
oh wow, you know that was that was pretty impressive
he's doing. I mean, he's arguably in the cy Young race.
You know, he's like, arguably in that conversation for real.
The home runs, the fact that he had no hitter
yet was sloppy, and he was walking guys left and right.
(09:38):
But he's such a perfectionist that I don't even know
if he's to the point where he can embrace, accept
and enjoy what it is that he's doing because he's
so locked in on No. But I could be better,
And I don't think that it's going to be until
he's gone long gone that he's going to look back
and go either maybe I should have enjoyed it a
(09:59):
little more, or damn, I was pretty good. Like that.
You know that no hitter, especially in today's day, that's
not normal. Oh and by the way, I also hit
to it. And you know Jacked wanted to start off
the game like I just yeah, he's a marvel to
watch man, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You know who had that mentality as a player, Kobe Bryant,
same thing.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Oh, not happy, like could always be better? Could always?
Yeah always.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I just scored forty I should have scored forty five. Man,
you just hit the game winning shot. Yeah, but I
turned the ball over in the first quarter. That was cooled.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's something like it's Kobe, it's Tom Brady, it's Jordan
had a little of that, it's it's rarefying air to
where you get. Yeah, I'm I'm happy about this, but
I could be way better and is way better. Because look,
if you're doing anything creative, or you're doing anything that
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involves a certain skill set, you're always striving for perfection.
Like I'll ask you, have you ever done a perfect
show in the history of your career?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Never?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I never have because I could literally nitpick every single
show and find something wrong. Ago, I could have done
that better, That could have been better, That could better
and some days there's more than others. And I'll be
honest with you, coming up on fifteen minutes, there's already
a couple. But I look at it and I go,
you're always driving.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Let me say this. You're right, there have been a couple,
but those are all on you.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Those are all on you.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
That's good. You know the philosophy of Fred Rogan. Point
the finger, not the thumb. Okay, you know what I mean.
If something goes wrong, keep the thumb tight and just
point the finger. But I just I look at I
watch it, and I go, I wonder, he's there's not
a lot of guys like that that come along where
(11:53):
he's so elite and so good that whatever he has
seen when nobody's around has shown him, oh, I could
do way better than that. It almost makes me wonder,
what are the bullpen sessions? Like when nobody's around? What
is we You know PMS has been at batting practice
(12:13):
before when he hit one out of the stadium, Like
what I would love to know to him? What is
your perfect game? Pitching? Hitting? What is your perfect game?
Because it's probably something that's never going to be attainable,
and as long as he's going to be chasing that.
He's never going to be happy.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
What do you mean it'll never be attainable. I'll give
it to you right now. You tell me this is
not attainable. Complete game, no hitter, plus a home run
every at bat. You're telling me that's not attainable.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Do you think they would keep him in for the
entire game?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It depends on how many pitches he threw.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I I think the I wonder if he would ever
be allowed to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Shoy would with the eighty pitches in the eighth inning,
shore he would.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
With the arm issues he's ad like, you have no
doubts that there would be hesitation to bring him back
out for the ninth with You know what, what if
he gets to the ninth, he's got a he's got
a no hitter going, he walks the first two batters.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
What's the score.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
To nothing?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I get him one more batter.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, I just I think that that would be a
no brainer in any other era. And I think now,
you like you just see you just see the way
teams operate. They're so fearful. And I was thinking about
this too. I don't know who was doing it right
and who's doing it wrong? Because it used to be
(13:49):
you know, it was it Johann Santana who threw the
no hitter the perfect game for the Mets, and he
ended up throwing like one hundred and fifty pitches in
that game, and he was never the same, like literally
never the same, like he emptied the chamber. I think
it was Johann Santana in that game, and you can
go back to look at his splits afterwards, and I
don't think he was ever the same. And I've thought
(14:09):
about this. You would just run guys out there and
if they had a no hitter in the sixth, it
really didn't matter what the pitch count was. They've got
a no hitter. And nowadays, because of the deep dive
on analytics and arm injuries and velocity and matchups and
(14:30):
all of that stuff that goes along with it, you
just don't see it anymore. Like you don't see perfect
games the way you did before. You don't see no hitters.
And I've thought about this recently, who was doing it right?
Are all those guys because it seems like nowadays arm
injuries are up, sure, it seems like that they're up
(14:52):
more so nowadays than they were back then when you
were running guys into the ground. It's same with the
NBA to where they were playing all eighty two games
on you know, basic converse sneakers, running up and down
the floor without you know, the luxurious flights and all
that stuff. They were playing back to backs, left and right,
(15:12):
and nobody missed a game. And nowadays you've got players
campaigning that they should be eligible for an award because
they got to sixty five or they missed sixty five,
but they had a legitimate reason why they missed seventeen
games in a season. You'd never hear of that back then,
And I just wonder who was doing it right? Were
you running them into the ground back then, or was
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this is the approach nowadays better for long term safety.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
For longevity. Money wise, for the players, it's better today
for their money, for their career, for their income. It's
better today. For the fans, it was better back in
the day because for the fans back in the day,
you'd see the guys every game, and you would if
they were hurt or they were battling through something, you
(15:59):
kind of battled through with them. Today, that's not the
way it works because today they're worried about their livelihood,
and their livelihood dictates on their availability, and they got
to be available, so they're not going to push anything
past the point to that point, all right, key K hurt.
He comes back a couple of games and he's hurt.
(16:19):
And now last night Tayo Hernandez gets hurt. It's a hamstring.
They don't know how long he'll be out, so I
guess you could say shoot him up and let him play.
That's not gonna do anybody any good. So suddenly the Dodgers, well,
ki K just came back, Blake Snell comes back and
then he's out. Blake Snell comes back and he's gone.
(16:39):
Key K comes back and he's gone, and Tayo, who's
finally hitting, is now gone. I mean, bam, bam bam.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And by the way, the Keik injury, you don't have
to be that one, seems because I guess the ti
Oscar injury is. They're considered, you know, a lot less
serious than the keyck A injury. The kick A injury
feels like that could be long term. Maybe you don't
see him for a while, and by a while, maybe
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you don't see him the rest of the regular season.
That that like, just the vibe, the energy you got
from it. Players usually know, and when you saw his
emotions and the fact he needed to be consoled when
he's been around the game for as long as he has.
I looked at that and I said, Eh, that seems
like somebody who knows this one's a little different like that.
(17:31):
That's that's problematic. But yeah, I just I'm looking at
it going it's so much different now that I wonder.
I wonder if you if you could stretch Otani to
his capabilities, what that would look like, or if they
would even approach the idea, would you even allow it
to be to be a part of the conversation with him.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm telling you they would allow it. In the right scenario,
they would allow it. If he is in the eighth
inning and thrown eighty pitches, they will allow it. Would
they allow him to complete the game? Yeah, I think
they would allow it. They would not say, well, you know,
the past scares us and we don't know what's gonna
(18:16):
happen down the road, so you're coming out right now.
I don't think that would happen. I think he's legit.
One hundred pitch guy now, and if he's at one
hundred pitches, he'll take him out. I mean, that's what
happened last night. He just threw too many pitches. I thought,
after the first inning last night, my god, he's gonna
cruise through these guys. But then he didn't really have
the command and he started to up the pitch count.
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That's why he came out. He was on one hundred pitches.
That was the end of it. I think they let
him go Jonas. I don't think they'd put any restriction
or governor on him.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I just I wonder,
just based on the injury history, if that would be
a problem for him or concern. By the way, do
you know the last Dodger pitch to throw a no hitter?
Clayton Kershaw back in twenty fourteen, OSK, Good guess? That
was good guess. Also in twenty fourteen, a nether Dodger pitcher.
(19:13):
Dodger pitcher threw a no hitter that year. Do you
happen to know who it is?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Twenty fourteen?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yes, K almost hit.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Kershaw threw a no hitter in June of twenty fourteen
against the Rockies somebody else threw a no hitter that
same season, about three weeks earlier, almost to the day
of today, in twenty fourteen, give me a hint, won
a World Series with the Marlins.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Kevin not Kevin Brown. Nope, no, give me initials.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I'm trying to think of. I can give you a
better hint than that. Then initials, well, like something that's
not such a giveaway. JB. I'll just give it to you, JB.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Oh, gosh, Beckett.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's right, stab at that and two in a matter
of three weeks. And then before that, you got to
go all the way back to Hitdeo Nomo in September
of ninety six, the last Dodger no hitter. They had
a combined no hitter back in twenty eighteen, but a
singular no hitter. And I don't know how you feel
about combined no hitters, but a singular no hitter. You
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got to go all the way back last time they
had one. So ninety six, yeah, long as and one
was the one before that, well, twenty fourteen was the
Beckett Kershaw no hitters, and then ninety six, ninety six
was Nomo, and then before that was Ramon Martinez in
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jun year, July ninety.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Five, ninety five. Yeah, and what before that?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Uh, I don't know. I gotta, I gotta pay for
a subscription. Apparently Kevin Gross back before that in ninety two,
Kevin Gross, Yeah, Dodgers Giants August of ninety two. I
don't even then. Then you got Fernando in nineteen ninety Yeah, man,
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like this is they were. They were slinging the back
of the day.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Anybody in the fifties.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Uh, Sandy Kofax, I don't know if you ever heard
of him. Yeah, yeah, he threw a I threw a
perfect game back then, uh through uh through one in
the sixties, through a couple in the sixties. Yeah, man,
they were the guys are out there.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Just throwing Why don't we go for a who hit
for the cycle? You got that in front of you
two mcyclopedia.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know have who hit for
the cycle? To be honest with you, And and I gotta,
I gotta tell you this. I think the cycle's kind
of overrated if you ask me why, because I think
the cycle is it's sort of as it's impressive because
it's four hits, but it's just sort of a well
it's kind of a cool, little goofy anomaly of an
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accomplishment to where it's like, I don't know, like it's
like getting a straight instead of for of a kind,
you had a way. You know, it's cool, you gotta
you got a single, you got a double. You probably
could have had a triple, but you held up there
because you already got a triple. And then you hit
one over the fence. Congratulations, you get a cycle. It's awesome.
(22:31):
It's cool to say, but a four home run game
is way more impressive to me.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I think it's more impressive. Winning pinpoint?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Winning?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
What pinpoint?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
We'll talk about it when we come back. Okay, you,
honest to god, don't know what pinpoint is.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't remember, No it is, Yeah, I'm not okay,
we'll talk.
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Speaker 1 (23:28):
All right, Jonas Nachten today for Rodney Uh. Before the break,
I was talking about pinpoint? Did you look it up?
Do you know what pinpoint is?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I didn't look it up. I was getting coffee.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Sorry, okay, priority Sred, Thanks for saying focused on your job?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Well, I mean are you? Are you not a coffee guy?
By the way, I've never asked you that question before.
You a coffee guy?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
One cup in the morning done? Really, that's it.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I didn't have any of this. I didn't have any
this morning, so I got up at one am, no
coffee because I had to fast for uh, get some
blood drawn. So my first cup of the day. Why
don't you put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I don't know why you have to fast when you
get your blood drawn. I never do.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Okay, Doc, what are the results look like? Fred? I
mean elevated levels of camus for some reason. I don't know.
If you time to me, it's normal your last one.
I mean it looks just like blood. What do you
want me to do?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Doc?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Like I also have heard different stories where they say
you can have if you have black coffee because I
just drink black coffee. If you have black coffee, you
can that's okay if you're fasting to get blood work.
And then I've heard others say no, no, no, don't
believe that. It's like every time, so I get a
different story. So I just don't do anything, literally nothing,
So just straight water.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Some people get so nervous when they go to the doctor.
Their blood pressure rises. Yeah, I mean yeah, you know,
and it's like, you know, they check the blood pressure
and it's like it's elevated because they're nervous there with
the doctor. That's why, Look, everybody should live their life.
I have my own medical routine. I got up in
the morning. I take seven's annex okay to.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Me, Hey, you know what I mean. Let me tell
you something. And for any of you that want to
be critical out there, it's not eight. It's seven, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And then when I do, I mean, you drink jug
you drink coffee. You know a lot of people use
energy drinks. I for years have had an ivy infusion
of adrenaline like at eleven am. I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
No, listen, there's nothing wrong with that. I've heard a
lot of people go the IVY route if they want to,
if they want to feel better quickly. You know, a
lot of people will will take that approach. I mean,
they just had the Enhanced Game in Vegas, where it's
the Olympics, where everybody can get on the gas. I mean,
there is that out there, so you know, it's not
like it's not like people aren't you know, trying to
color outside the lines a little bit. I don't see
(26:11):
what the problem is.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I read that was a disaster, by the way, Yeah,
I read it was a complete and total disaster.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, I mean what could go wrong?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Well, I mean nobody collapsed, but people just didn't get
into it as much as they thought they would.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's like, well, and the here's you know the part
about it. There were a couple of people who still
were planning on, uh, trying out for the Olympics, the
actual Olympics the next go around and say we're trying
to tell everybody that they were clean, like, oh, we're
going to be in the Enhanced Games, but we haven't
taken anything. It's like, so what's the point, right, Like
(26:50):
what what really?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Then go do something that's not looked down upon. Okay,
because the people here they're ready to risk it all, okay,
literally risk it all all right. They're looking to set
some records and get paid. And if you set a
world record, you get a million dollars. So I'm with you. Look,
if you want to, if you want to rip a
few zannas in the morning to get you ready to go.
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I mean, it's look at the career you've had, so
it's worked.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, every to each their own. Yeah, let's go to
Pinpoint real quick.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Pinpoint was the greatest bowling show in history. You don't
remember Pinpoint?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I don't remember Pinpoint?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
No, oh my god. It was the best. You know
in bowling. If your mookie bet, you try to roll
a three hundred game, try to get strikes, try to
get the turkey, pick up the spare, grab the seven
ten split. That's bowling. Pinpoint was different. You had to
go backwards. So in Pinpoint, on your first roll, you
had to knock one pin down. If you're knock two,
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you're out. Your second role you had to knock two.
Your third role you had to knock three.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
That's a pain in the ash, that's real.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's like hitting the cycle on baseball playing Pinpoint.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Huh. Can we just marvel at the the way that
you tied all that together? Impossibly from a cycle conversation.
We had last segment that literally went through an entire
(28:26):
timeline that involved xanax, wine, bad medical advice, coffee, peds, coffee,
Mookie bets, turkey, and Pinpoint. The bowling game that's no
longer on television, which I can't find a trace of
(28:47):
anywhere in a search and just a basic search on Google.
Pinpoint Bowling Show was a CBS show.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I think I think it was. I think it was CBS. Yeah, Pinpoint,
it was great Musburger.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
No, it was best doing the coverage.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
No, it was back when Chris Schenkel was doing the
Pro Bowlers Tour on ABC and Nelson Burton Junior and
Earl Anthony and Johnny Petraglia were the bowlers. You remember
those days?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Oh yeah, they I mean, look, that's the you know,
that's what I live for. Nowadays, you got it on Fox.
You got Rob Stone out there, uh doing the doing
the bowling events. And by the way, I've heard very
upity crowd at the bowling events. You can't mess around
really yeah, like uh, Brady Quinn was telling me, uh,
Rob Stone was in his area calling an event, so
(29:37):
him and his girl, him and his daughters and his
wife made signs to go to the event and just
like sit in the background and have fun with him.
And it was like people were telling like, shut out,
what is this, Agusta? Yeah for bowling? What is this Augusta?
Are you serious? Like you gotta you got a slob
at the counter, sprang tanac and inside some shoes that
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have been there since the place open, and we're worried
about what we're doing with a couple of signs in
the background on a TV show like if youah bowling?
Apparently it's got a real uppity vibe to it, just
like golf.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Had no idea. I think you gotta let lucid bowling.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Listen, you want to know why I don't bowl sober?
I don't know why I need to know, No, because
I have dignity. That's why if I'm bowling, I'm having
at least a couple of throat burners at least, and
that's at least a couple in the parking lot, and
then a couple more while I pay for the bowling shoes.
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And everything to go along with it, and then a
couple hundred more while I'm actually doing the bowling. I'm
on the liver lube from start to finish because I
have dignity and pride of myself. Read how do you perform?
By the way bold to two ninety one time at
Brunswick and seem Valley.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
No, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
On my life Brunswick and Seemi Valley. Back at two
thousand and seven bowl it's two ninety I hit a ten,
I hit an I had. I had the transcript somewhere.
They printed out a transcript for me. I bowled a
I bowled an eight and a spare and then eleven
straight strikes. I used to be really good, and then
a couple of games later I did a two sixty eight,
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and then a week later I bowled a two twenty
one left handed, bowled the entire game left handed Bolt's
two twenty one. I used to be really good. Bumpers,
then bumpers in. No bumpers, that's it. That's rude, by
the way. No bumpers. Uh yeah, I just I used
to be really good, and and then I decided, you know,
why don't I do it? But not drink as much
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and then the game completely fell off a cliff.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So that was it.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
That was my enhanced games.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
You ever troubled by wearing those bowling shoes?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's gross.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You wouldn't wear somebody else's shoes. You wouldn't go to
their house and put on their shoes.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, it's gross, man, it's gross. And they just they
just spray it real quick. It's not even like a
They just just spray it and then they just they figure, ouh,
that's going to take care of things. I just think
about how many funky, disgusting feet have been in a
pair of bowling shoes exactly, Like I mean, I would
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be surprised if Rex Ryan eats his weedies out of those.
But for anybody else who doesn't have a foot fetish,
you're not into it.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
You don't want to walk in there with a pair
of clean feet to go bowling with with with the
misses or with the family, and you got to walk
out of there with some guy's ToeJam crawling up your
ankles like it's one of the one of the villains
on Stranger Things because some guy washes his dirty ass
feet before he went in and bowled an eighty five
and thought he was a badass. It's unfortunate you want
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those guys.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You one of those guys with his own balls.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I used to add one. Yeah, no thumb though. I
would just go two fingers with no thumb so I
could get extra spin on it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Is that legal?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, of course it's legal. Yeah, you just go, you
go thumb out like almost like the symbol for I
love you, you know when you throw and I love
you up? Jeez, Fred, have some I'm not flipping you off.
I'm just saying, like, you go like you know that,
and then you just may to spin it. By the way,
I also I have this. I don't know if you're
(33:19):
the same as me. I have a fascination with pitch grips.
Have you ever watched the way pictures like I have.
You've ever seen the way Otani throws a splitter or
the way Sasaki or some of these guys. I don't
have no idea how pitchers are able to manipulate a
baseball just using a pitch grip. It is wild me.
(33:42):
Like you could watch Kershaw throw a curveball and it
would be like, okay, that could make some sense, and
then you'll watch Otani and some of these guys throw
splitters and it makes no sense whatsoever. I don't get it.
I don't understand how you're able to do that and
make the ball move and manipulate it the way you do.
It's kind of wild. Stick them, Okay. I mean, I'm
(34:04):
not going to make reckless allegations against the Dodgers pitching
staff on this show here on the five seventy, the
Home of the Dodgers. I wouldn't do that. But if
you want to go that, we're oute, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I'm not saying the Dodgers. I'm just hypothesizing that could
be what it is. I mean, Trevor Barer knew all
about that. Well.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
He also played with drones and cut his hand and
before a playoff game and his hand was out there bleeding.
He was in a car accident. Reason you see that,
Trevor Bauer. Yeah, he got smoked at an intersection in Vegas.
All right, Yeah, I mean looked a little dazed, but yeah,
(34:42):
I think other than that, he's all right, that guy,
and he's just never going to be back in the majors, right.
Trevor Barrow that's just it.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Who's going to sign him? He said he played for free.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I just look, and we documented this at the time,
the stuff that he was accused of, all of that obviously,
the think I think it was things previous to that.
When he showed up to spring training. He had his
camera crew and all that, and he was probably way
(35:12):
ahead of his time for being honest nowadays with what
we see. But I think the Dodgers were just kind
of like, yeah, we're good here, Like we don't really
need this. This is not the way we operate. We're
trying to we do things a little different, and he
wanted to take that approach. But I'm just surprised that,
based on some of the information that's come out since
the accusations, that nobody's even given him a sniff, that
(35:35):
there hasn't even been any sort of a thought to
bringing him back. And I think I think I heard
that maybe the Phillies had kicked the tires on him
coming back in the last couple of years, and that
Major League Baseball squashed it, that they just stepped up
there this yeah, something like I think it was the
Phillies within the past couple of years and Major League
baseball just stepped up and said, no sun happening.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
All right. The next story we're gonna tell you may
surprise you. It's about Anthony Rendon.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
You remember I love him, Love him.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yes, we've got the story. Next.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
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Speaker 1 (36:37):
All Right, Today's throwback edition of Afternoon Delight, Jonas you
know this one? Come on, that's right? Call me Blondie?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, you know, I got you?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
All right? Six weeks to top the Billboard Hot one
hundred charts, spanning the months of May and June in
eighty In addition to going gold in the US, Italy
and Canada, song also received the Grammy nomination Best Rock
Performance by a Duo or Group, while Rolling Stone Ranke
did at number two eighty three, and It's list of
the five hundred Greatest Songs of All Time. Today's throwback
Thursday edition of Afternoon Delight Call Me by Blondie.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
This is rock. They consider this rock.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Really? Are you gonna question the Billboard? No, I'm just,
I just I was wondering problem with everything?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
No bye bye. By the way, I think I think
some people on social media have a problem with you.
Jose just sent me a tweet and said, can you
just be you and rip Uncle Fred today? And I
thought that was rather rude to be honest with you,
Fred and I are friends. Why would I do that.
I'm not gonna sit here and rip Fred on me.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Well, I mean that that speaks to two issues. First, Jose,
I'm not your uncle. But moreover, I mean maybe I am.
I don't know. But moreover, I think that's that's an
attack on your character because that's what they think of you,
not about me. This is a you issue. Why don't
(38:02):
you rip Uncle Fred? Why don't you attend un That's
about you, buddy, You're the one that needs therapy.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Not to hold on a second, Bill, hold a second.
I thought we had an agreement at the beginning of
the show. We're not gonna sit here and stain the
reputation of each other. We're not doing that. We do
that too often, We're not doing that today. And if anything,
we've called ourselves out on certain maybe flaws or routines
that we have that may or may not be the healthiest.
(38:31):
And I'm not gonna say who it was on this show.
But somebody said they popped seven's an X in the morning,
and I'm not gonna say who it was. It wasn't me,
but I'm not gonna say who it was on this show.
So I feel like we've kind of done our own
selves in. I don't think we need to take shots
at each other. And unless I'm not going to go
down that road, I refuse to go. I don't fall
for peer pressure.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
You know what, Let's start fresh. Let's start fresh. Okay,
we had a misstep, but we're back in business. Let's
start for.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
This is what.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
No, I'm into it. I agree, Let's let's go fresh
here already.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Anthony Rendona is back. Anthony Rendon, of course, who was
missing an action for the Angels from the moment he signed,
really had the greatest deal in baseball history, played like
twelve games. I got paid over three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
By the way, he was so good with Washington before
he got there. He really really was good. Right, It's
like he got paid music.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, fit, so you you wonder well, I don't know
where he moved to. But he's done. You know, I
know he came out in one stretch of whim and
it was hurt. There was a fight and he tried
to mush a guy in the face with his cat.
Oh yeah, that's really what we remember him for as
an Angel. You're the guy that said, I got my
priority straight here, and you know baseball is not the
most important thing to me. Well, when you're making three
(39:53):
hundred and forty five million dollars, I guess you can
say that. Remember that comment.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I'd be listened. But to be honest, that sounds like
someone who does have their priorities in order. Like that's
somebody who does that. I'm just not gonna put baseball
in front of family of my faith. I'm sorry, guys,
I'm just not gonna do it. And I already got paid,
so I shouldn't have to do it. Sorry, he didn't.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
He didn't put the comma part in where I already
got paid, I shouldn't have to do it. He didn't
include the comma. He just said I'm not going to
do it. That didn't play well with people who watched
him or didn't see him with the Angels. Knowing he
made over three hundred million dollars and didn't play that.
That's an easy thing for you to say. It's the
right it's the right thing to say. By the way,
(40:34):
he could have handled that a little better. Anyway, good news.
I learned this the other day, and I was so
shocked that I had to just see it again from
my own eyes. Anthony rendon't apparently is back. Anthony rendon't
is running for public office? Oh really? Stated California? All right,
(40:54):
California Superintendent of public instruction. You can see his ads
on TV. Anthony Rendon? Will he actually show up to debates?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Okay, that's I mean, I feel like that that's a
low blow, that's a shot, and that's.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Day to day with educational soreness, maybe load management for
standardized testing. Who knows the truth of the matter is
Anthony Rendon is running? Look him up.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Now.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I'm not well versed on the whole political scene. It's
just not really my strength. I chose sports for a
reason because I just don't get all that stuff. But
explain to me what his job would be and where
exactly he is running, because I haven't seen him. I
mean out here in Ventura County. I have not seen
(41:51):
any ads for Anthony Rendon. I'm just not And are
we sure this is legitimate? Or this is this like
some sort of an AI piece together? You know, bs,
let's have some fun at Anthony Rendon's expense because people
are still pissed off about it.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
No, it's Anthony Rendon, the former Speaker of the California Assembly.
That Anthony Rendon, that baseball player Anthony. Okay, all right,
fair enough, but he had the same name. Okay, so
it's not the former baseball player. No, it's a former
speaker of the California Assembly. He just has the same
name as again, Angel Anthony rundn't see this is this
(42:31):
is the problem. This is the same thing he did.
Let me just tell you something. Fred's gonna be the
reason that Artie Moreno sells the team. And he's going
to be the reason that he Artie Moreno sells the
team and it goes to somebody who like moves them
to Barstow. Like this is what's gonna happen because Fred
(42:54):
can't help himself but find some sort of an angle
to take a shot at the Angels. And I don't
know what the I don't know if this is because
you don't like Disneyland, and I don't blame you.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I don't like it either. I don't know if this
is because you've got some sort of problem with the ballpark,
which I don't understand. I mean, it's an easy in
and out. I mean, you know, getting into that ballpark's
quick and easy. The pricing seems fair. But I feel
like you go out of your way to sort of
revel in the fact that the Angels have struggled, and
there was no reason for you, in today's political climate
(43:26):
to try and calm the audience into thinking that Anthony Rendon,
who was I think third in the MVP voting, won
a World Series in Washington, got over two hundred million
dollars and then just decided, fit, I'm just not going
to play, and when I do, the highlight will be
me with a cast on trying to beat somebody's ass
(43:47):
in the middle of a fight. And you had to
bring that up because you just can't help yourself. You
got fans taking their shirts off in Angels games. You
did that, Fred, You're the one that stirred the pot
to have this sort of move movement go on. Meanwhile,
Kevin Figures is sitting back there with a Tim Samon bobblehead,
just trying to think about the good old days mine
(44:10):
in his own business. And you're bringing up all the
scars with the organization, the latest being Anthony Rendon. I mean,
what's next? Really? What else are you going to bring
up about the Angels? Red? What else?
Speaker 1 (44:22):
The rally Monkey?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Okay, it worked, didn't It wasn't that the year they
won the World Series?
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah? Then what happened to? It fell by the wayside.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
It's been a while.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
I don't have a problem with the Angels, I really don't.
I just have a problem with everything surrounding them. I
don't have a problem with the Angels.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I mean, what more could you do?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Though?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
The fans are taking their shirts off, right, They're creating.
They're showing images of them jumping off the Angel sign
out in front of the ballpark, Like is hilarious, I'll
be They just fans falling off the the A, the
big A with the halo at the top. It's really
(45:10):
it really is creative. Like can I also, can I
tell you this about the Angels? This is a true
This is a true story. I am not at we
mentioned coffee okay, because it was my first cup of
coffee the other day. Yeah, let me just tell you this,
so years ago, I'm talking, this is twenty plus years ago.
When I was first trying to get into radio, I
(45:31):
would work with the great Jeff Biggs. Jeff Biggs, one
of the one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet,
was really really good to me. He was at A
five seventy for a while, but Jeff worked at the
Angel station. And so when I would go in there
to help him out, and we're talking like, I would
drive middle of the week in three hour traffic from
(45:51):
Thousand Oaks to Anaheim to try and get there to
help him out, and it would be off season Angel
talk all that, and so we'd get out there and
I would be, you know, so sort of basically interning,
you know, all for free. I would do call ins
from games and stuff for him if he would send
me out to games because I really wanted to get
into radio, and I would be, you know, a little
worn out because I'd worked all day and then I was,
(46:12):
you know, and he would say, yeah, if you want
to go grab a cup of coffee or whatever. So
the studios there are right around the corner from Arti
Moreno's office. So it's not as if you could really
lay waste to the organization, because if you go out
and hang left to Arti Moreno's office is right there. See,
you can't really light them up. And so if you
walk out of the studio, you would go left, it
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would be already Moreno's office, and then you would go right.
You go through a sales floor, and then you would
go through the kitchen. And because I was there so often,
I just sort of recognized the taste of the coffee
inside the building whenever I would go there. Fast forward,
probably eighteen years later, I'm at a monster Jam event.
(46:55):
It's later in the evening. It's going on forever. I'm
like Beethoven, I can't hear anymore because it's so loud.
These things are so loud inside Angel Stadium. So I
go up to get a cup of coffee because we're
gonna be leaving, and I know it's going to be
a long ride home. It's the exact same coffee they
had in the office next to the radio station twenty
(47:18):
years earlier, and I swear to God on that it
is identical, and I'm tasting going where do I know
this from. Oh my god, there's been no upgrades, literally none,
from the facilities to the coffee, to anything in that place.
It is wild to go.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
To Back in the day they had to deal with
you ban coffee.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Don't swear to God. I swear to God.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
God, you know what it was.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
It's incredible. It is you literally, because you know they
like smell like smells and tastes bring back memories. You
smell them and you go, oh my god, I remember
where I was, or you taste them and go, wow,
this tastes just I stopped. I took a sip of
it and stopped as I was walking back to my seat, going,
oh my god. They've done nothing to upgrade this place.
(48:18):
Like they haven't gone from Senka to Folgers or whatever
it is. They just kept running it. I don't even
know if he sees the inventory. He just said, yeah,
that's fine, We'll just do the same thing you've been doing.
It's crazy, man, But if Fred has his way, everybody
be out of there soon.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
So okay, we do have a one hundred gift one
not of our gift card, just strand to give away today.
He's talking to do that sometime between nine and three,
and when we come back, try not to upset him.
How many is our friend Jonas ned COLETTI love that,
you know, Try it all right, just try to behave
(48:56):
please all right,
The all right, here we go, Fred Rogan, and look
who's here today for Rodney. It's our dear friend, America's
All Star Jonas Knox. Jonas, good afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, so Fred going on? You ready to have some fun?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Oh? Yeah? And the thing I want to start with today,
I do want to start with this if I can
just take a moment off the top to please, all Right,
I do not want to be misrepresented at any point
on today's program, and when you are on with me,
there seems to be a history of that. Somehow things
that might be said get lost in translation, and all
(00:36):
of a sudden it's as if I've attacked someone when
I've not even mentioned their name. So I would appreciate
it if we didn't go through that today. Can we
at least agree to that, please?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I have found that the people that I work with,
who I've had the best chemistry doing shows with, there's
a constant theme. And this could be Brady Quinn, this
could be LeVar Arrington, this could be Fred Rogan, this
could be anybody that I have a good chemistry with.
(01:07):
There's a theme. Okay, it's usually a race to see
who can misrepresent the other one first. That's the theme,
because that's the fun of it, because you're hoping that
somebody is tuning in for the first time and you
tell a tale about the other guy that's so unbelievable
to the common listener, but to the new one, they're like, wow, really,
(01:32):
So that's kind of the So I'm gonna I'll try,
but I feel like you also do that to me,
And it's kind of a little bit difficult for us
to just go and reject, reject that whole process and
that whole idea since we've been doing this since the
day we first worked together.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
All right, So the bottom line is this, first, I
don't do it to you. I feel that was a
rip in my emotional fabric and it's not me back
on my heels. I mean, I don't know. And if
you look at your childhood as you grew up, it
was it was me that told everybody the truth that
you were amish.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah. I was Cooper Cup before Cooper Cuff exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And no one knew that before we started working.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Together, okay, yeah, And and and a lot of people
would would question that, and they would doubt the validity
of that, and I would say, come on, man, you've
seen Fred would Fred Lae? Okay, what would what would he?
Would he spin a yarn like that? And and you know,
misrepresent somebody like that and not be honest about their
background and their upbringing and uh. And I think the
(02:33):
universal answer to that would be, yeah, he probably would.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That doesn't mean that you're doing it with me.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
That's fair. I mean we figured that out when we
realized that your name and old biblical name Jonas was
actually used very much in the Amish community when your
parents were growing up in Pennsylvania, when when they would
travel around by Oxen.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I see because I see that what you're doing there,
you're trying to get me to because you're thinking about
the Kingpin, and you're thinking about you know, when he
when he thinks he's milking a cow it turns out
it's a bowl, and and so they're wondering, you know,
what what do you do with it? And I think
you're trying to that this is sort of a subtle
shot at me. And I don't know what you're getting at,
but in today's climate, I'm deeply offended by that threat,
(03:17):
really deeply offended.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, don't you don't you find it interesting. It doesn't
matter what you say to anybody, they're offended today.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Well, yeah, this is and I mean that's how things
are today. Nobody's got a sense of humor anymore. You've
got celebrity roasts that happen. It's it's a roast. The
idea and concept of a roast is that everybody gets
lit up. That's that's what a roast is. And yet
there's people that are on the roast who dish it out,
(03:48):
get ripped on themselves, and then complain after about the
content of the roast that they were a part of,
Like just yeah, you can't. It's just a whole vibe nowadays,
you know, you just can't. You can't mess around anymore.
Everybody's everybody's got a soft spot and they just expose
it more and more now often.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Let's make this a let's make this a safe zone today.
This is a safe zone. What happens here stays here.
It's just between us. Yeah, and I mean nobody's listening,
so it really is between us.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I'm into it. I mean, you could say whatever you
want to me. I don't care, really don't care. Doesn't
bother me. What joke any joke is on the table.
Whatever you want to use.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
What could I say to you that would not bother you?
What would be something if I said it that wouldn't
bother you?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I don't. I mean, look, Kevin knows me. Kevin and
I worked together a long time. There's just not really
anything that bothers me. I'm sorry, I just it just
doesn't to me. Whatever you got to say, you gotta say.
And you know, funny is funny. And so if you
want to, if you want to light me up and
(04:58):
you want to tell people I'm amish, or that you
know I mistook a cow for a bowl, or if
you want to, you know, like any anything that you
want to get to at some point through the course
of the show, let's just do it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I mean, Kevin, do you believe that that Jonas does
not take anything seriously? He can deal with anything. You've
never seen Jonas upset in one moment of knowing him.
Any answer would be no, never, no, never, once no.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And if anything, the comments that he gets on X
are as vile as he gets and you know what
he does, he reads them on the air. Yeah, And
the ones that he can't read on the air, he
tries to censor as much as he possibly can. Yeah,
and sometimes I, you know, I'm not able to do that,
and I get dumped because I I maybe read a
little bit too much that I shouldn't have.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So what would somebody say to you on extrage?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh my god, I mean I've been like, there's it's
a it's bad. It's uh, I mean, you know it's
it's bad. I mean any kind of slur you could
possibly think of if I make mention of it could
be if I make mention of Lebron James, it's you know,
Lebron Pom pom waiver fangirl go back to bleeping your
(06:09):
bleep to him while he's working out in his in
his tight pand like, I mean, it's just it's absurd.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You think Lebron's good, you think you think you're a
Lebron guy.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I wasn't aware of it, but that people hear what
they want to hear. Man Like, people will hear what
they want to hear and just insert and add whatever
they want to it to get them to believe that
that's exactly what they heard when it's completely the opposite.
And instead of me just being arguing the point being no,
that's not true. I don't believe that, and you say, yeah, whatever,
(06:42):
here it is. This is what they said. I think
it's funny. I just think it's it's funny, you know, like,
all right, hey, look, funny's funny. I'm just not gonna
not gonna take offense to it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Kevin, here's one for us. So last week I'm checking
X and I look and somebody sends this tweet out
and said, yeah, just like always, there's Fred and Rodney
ripping Lebron. I thought, do you even listen to the show? No? No, no, no, no,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry that was incorrect. It was just
like always, there's Fred and Rodney kissing Lebron's ass. That's what.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
That's what you do.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I just looked at it. I thought, there's no, there's
not even a reason to respond to that. Do you
even listen to the show?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Tend people hear what they want to hear. They go
in already expecting you to say something or feel a
certain way, and if you give them even the slightest
in that direction, they're gonna run with it and fill
in the blanks from there. There's no there is no
nuance anymore. There's no shades of gray. It's you're this
way or that way, and if and if you're one
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side or the other, you're gonna get destroyed for it.
It's just it's it's the way the world works these days.
You know, things have changed. But again, funny is funny.
If it's funny, I'm sorry, it's gotta be right on
the air.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
I thought there was nothing. There was nothing funny about
Otani last night. Would you agree there was nothing funny
about that?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Guy?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Had no hitter?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
He had a no hitter. Apparently his English has gotten
better because some people have deciphered the F bomb that
he dropped on the mound.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So no, he said that in Japanese.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Are you sure?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, that he said that, But it was in Japanese.
It's said the same way in both languages. Really no,
I made that up.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh see, you know, there we go, and we're off
right there right there. Couldn't help himself, that whole diatribe
of let's do this all the up and up. Let's
be honest here, all right, No, no, no underhanded movement here, guys.
We're looking for a legit card game, and Fred's got
an ace of spades hidden but hitting on his lap
(08:50):
that he's gonna slide into the deck whenever he gets
an opportunity. He just can't help themselves. But you know,
but I don't know that he's caped, because this is
the same thing that we see with great athletes all
the time to where it's very rare you'll get a
great athlete who stops to smell the roses in real time.
(09:15):
It's usually not until after the fact that they go,
oh wow, you know that was that was pretty impressive
he's doing. I mean, he's arguably in the cy Young race.
You know, he's like, arguably in that conversation for real.
The home runs, the fact that he had no hitter
yet was sloppy, and he was walking guys left and right.
(09:38):
But he's such a perfectionist that I don't even know
if he's to the point where he can embrace, accept
and enjoy what it is that he's doing because he's
so locked in on No. But I could be better,
And I don't think that it's going to be until
he's gone long gone that he's going to look back
and go either maybe I should have enjoyed it a
(09:59):
little more, or damn, I was pretty good. Like that.
You know that no hitter, especially in today's day, that's
not normal. Oh and by the way, I also hit
to it. And you know Jacked wanted to start off
the game like I just yeah, he's a marvel to
watch man, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You know who had that mentality as a player, Kobe Bryant,
same thing.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Oh, not happy, like could always be better? Could always?
Yeah always.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I just scored forty I should have scored forty five. Man,
you just hit the game winning shot. Yeah, but I
turned the ball over in the first quarter. That was cooled.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's something like it's Kobe, it's Tom Brady, it's Jordan
had a little of that, it's it's rarefying air to
where you get. Yeah, I'm I'm happy about this, but
I could be way better and is way better. Because look,
if you're doing anything creative, or you're doing anything that
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involves a certain skill set, you're always striving for perfection.
Like I'll ask you, have you ever done a perfect
show in the history of your career?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Never?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I never have because I could literally nitpick every single
show and find something wrong. Ago, I could have done
that better, That could have been better, That could better
and some days there's more than others. And I'll be
honest with you, coming up on fifteen minutes, there's already
a couple. But I look at it and I go,
you're always driving.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Let me say this. You're right, there have been a couple,
but those are all on you.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Those are all on you.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
That's good. You know the philosophy of Fred Rogan. Point
the finger, not the thumb. Okay, you know what I mean.
If something goes wrong, keep the thumb tight and just
point the finger. But I just I look at I
watch it, and I go, I wonder, he's there's not
a lot of guys like that that come along where
(11:53):
he's so elite and so good that whatever he has
seen when nobody's around has shown him, oh, I could
do way better than that. It almost makes me wonder,
what are the bullpen sessions? Like when nobody's around? What
is we You know PMS has been at batting practice
(12:13):
before when he hit one out of the stadium, Like
what I would love to know to him? What is
your perfect game? Pitching? Hitting? What is your perfect game?
Because it's probably something that's never going to be attainable,
and as long as he's going to be chasing that.
He's never going to be happy.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
What do you mean it'll never be attainable. I'll give
it to you right now. You tell me this is
not attainable. Complete game, no hitter, plus a home run
every at bat. You're telling me that's not attainable.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Do you think they would keep him in for the
entire game?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It depends on how many pitches he threw.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I I think the I wonder if he would ever
be allowed to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Shoy would with the eighty pitches in the eighth inning,
shore he would.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
With the arm issues he's ad like, you have no
doubts that there would be hesitation to bring him back
out for the ninth with You know what, what if
he gets to the ninth, he's got a he's got
a no hitter going, he walks the first two batters.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
What's the score.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
To nothing?
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I get him one more batter.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, I just I think that that would be a
no brainer in any other era. And I think now,
you like you just see you just see the way
teams operate. They're so fearful. And I was thinking about
this too. I don't know who was doing it right
and who's doing it wrong? Because it used to be
(13:49):
you know, it was it Johann Santana who threw the
no hitter the perfect game for the Mets, and he
ended up throwing like one hundred and fifty pitches in
that game, and he was never the same, like literally
never the same, like he emptied the chamber. I think
it was Johann Santana in that game, and you can
go back to look at his splits afterwards, and I
don't think he was ever the same. And I've thought
(14:09):
about this. You would just run guys out there and
if they had a no hitter in the sixth, it
really didn't matter what the pitch count was. They've got
a no hitter. And nowadays, because of the deep dive
on analytics and arm injuries and velocity and matchups and
(14:30):
all of that stuff that goes along with it, you
just don't see it anymore. Like you don't see perfect
games the way you did before. You don't see no hitters.
And I've thought about this recently, who was doing it right?
Are all those guys because it seems like nowadays arm
injuries are up, sure, it seems like that they're up
(14:52):
more so nowadays than they were back then when you
were running guys into the ground. It's same with the
NBA to where they were playing all eighty two games
on you know, basic converse sneakers, running up and down
the floor without you know, the luxurious flights and all
that stuff. They were playing back to backs, left and right,
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and nobody missed a game. And nowadays you've got players
campaigning that they should be eligible for an award because
they got to sixty five or they missed sixty five,
but they had a legitimate reason why they missed seventeen
games in a season. You'd never hear of that back then,
And I just wonder who was doing it right? Were
you running them into the ground back then, or was
(15:34):
this is the approach nowadays better for long term safety.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
For longevity. Money wise, for the players, it's better today
for their money, for their career, for their income. It's
better today. For the fans, it was better back in
the day because for the fans back in the day,
you'd see the guys every game, and you would if
they were hurt or they were battling through something, you
(15:59):
kind of battled through with them. Today, that's not the
way it works because today they're worried about their livelihood,
and their livelihood dictates on their availability, and they got
to be available, so they're not going to push anything
past the point to that point, all right, key K hurt.
He comes back a couple of games and he's hurt.
(16:19):
And now last night Tayo Hernandez gets hurt. It's a hamstring.
They don't know how long he'll be out, so I
guess you could say shoot him up and let him play.
That's not gonna do anybody any good. So suddenly the Dodgers, well,
ki K just came back, Blake Snell comes back and
then he's out. Blake Snell comes back and he's gone.
(16:39):
Key K comes back and he's gone, and Tayo, who's
finally hitting, is now gone. I mean, bam, bam bam.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And by the way, the Keik injury, you don't have
to be that one, seems because I guess the ti
Oscar injury is. They're considered, you know, a lot less
serious than the keyck A injury. The kick A injury
feels like that could be long term. Maybe you don't
see him for a while, and by a while, maybe
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you don't see him the rest of the regular season.
That that like, just the vibe, the energy you got
from it. Players usually know, and when you saw his
emotions and the fact he needed to be consoled when
he's been around the game for as long as he has.
I looked at that and I said, Eh, that seems
like somebody who knows this one's a little different like that.
(17:31):
That's that's problematic. But yeah, I just I'm looking at
it going it's so much different now that I wonder.
I wonder if you if you could stretch Otani to
his capabilities, what that would look like, or if they
would even approach the idea, would you even allow it
to be to be a part of the conversation with him.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm telling you they would allow it. In the right scenario,
they would allow it. If he is in the eighth
inning and thrown eighty pitches, they will allow it. Would
they allow him to complete the game? Yeah, I think
they would allow it. They would not say, well, you know,
the past scares us and we don't know what's gonna
(18:16):
happen down the road, so you're coming out right now.
I don't think that would happen. I think he's legit.
One hundred pitch guy now, and if he's at one
hundred pitches, he'll take him out. I mean, that's what
happened last night. He just threw too many pitches. I thought,
after the first inning last night, my god, he's gonna
cruise through these guys. But then he didn't really have
the command and he started to up the pitch count.
(18:39):
That's why he came out. He was on one hundred pitches.
That was the end of it. I think they let
him go Jonas. I don't think they'd put any restriction
or governor on him.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I just I wonder,
just based on the injury history, if that would be
a problem for him or concern. By the way, do
you know the last Dodger pitch to throw a no hitter?
Clayton Kershaw back in twenty fourteen, OSK, Good guess? That
was good guess. Also in twenty fourteen, a nether Dodger pitcher.
(19:13):
Dodger pitcher threw a no hitter that year. Do you
happen to know who it is?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Twenty fourteen?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yes, K almost hit.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Kershaw threw a no hitter in June of twenty fourteen
against the Rockies somebody else threw a no hitter that
same season, about three weeks earlier, almost to the day
of today, in twenty fourteen, give me a hint, won
a World Series with the Marlins.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Kevin not Kevin Brown. Nope, no, give me initials.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I'm trying to think of. I can give you a
better hint than that. Then initials, well, like something that's
not such a giveaway. JB. I'll just give it to you, JB.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Oh, gosh, Beckett.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's right, stab at that and two in a matter
of three weeks. And then before that, you got to
go all the way back to Hitdeo Nomo in September
of ninety six, the last Dodger no hitter. They had
a combined no hitter back in twenty eighteen, but a
singular no hitter. And I don't know how you feel
about combined no hitters, but a singular no hitter. You
(20:34):
got to go all the way back last time they
had one. So ninety six, yeah, long as and one
was the one before that, well, twenty fourteen was the
Beckett Kershaw no hitters, and then ninety six, ninety six
was Nomo, and then before that was Ramon Martinez in
(20:54):
jun year, July ninety.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Five, ninety five. Yeah, and what before that?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Uh, I don't know. I gotta, I gotta pay for
a subscription. Apparently Kevin Gross back before that in ninety two,
Kevin Gross, Yeah, Dodgers Giants August of ninety two. I
don't even then. Then you got Fernando in nineteen ninety Yeah, man,
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like this is they were. They were slinging the back
of the day.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Anybody in the fifties.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Uh, Sandy Kofax, I don't know if you ever heard
of him. Yeah, yeah, he threw a I threw a
perfect game back then, uh through uh through one in
the sixties, through a couple in the sixties. Yeah, man,
they were the guys are out there.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Just throwing Why don't we go for a who hit
for the cycle? You got that in front of you
two mcyclopedia.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know have who hit for
the cycle? To be honest with you, And and I gotta,
I gotta tell you this. I think the cycle's kind
of overrated if you ask me why, because I think
the cycle is it's sort of as it's impressive because
it's four hits, but it's just sort of a well
it's kind of a cool, little goofy anomaly of an
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accomplishment to where it's like, I don't know, like it's
like getting a straight instead of for of a kind,
you had a way. You know, it's cool, you gotta
you got a single, you got a double. You probably
could have had a triple, but you held up there
because you already got a triple. And then you hit
one over the fence. Congratulations, you get a cycle. It's awesome.
(22:31):
It's cool to say, but a four home run game
is way more impressive to me.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I think it's more impressive. Winning pinpoint?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Winning?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
What pinpoint?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
We'll talk about it when we come back. Okay, you,
honest to god, don't know what pinpoint is.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't remember, No it is, Yeah, I'm not okay,
we'll talk.
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Speaker 1 (23:28):
All right, Jonas Nachten today for Rodney Uh. Before the break,
I was talking about pinpoint? Did you look it up?
Do you know what pinpoint is?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I didn't look it up. I was getting coffee.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Sorry, okay, priority Sred, Thanks for saying focused on your job?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Well, I mean are you? Are you not a coffee guy?
By the way, I've never asked you that question before.
You a coffee guy?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
One cup in the morning done? Really, that's it.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I didn't have any of this. I didn't have any
this morning, so I got up at one am, no
coffee because I had to fast for uh, get some
blood drawn. So my first cup of the day. Why
don't you put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I don't know why you have to fast when you
get your blood drawn. I never do.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Okay, Doc, what are the results look like? Fred? I
mean elevated levels of camus for some reason. I don't know.
If you time to me, it's normal your last one.
I mean it looks just like blood. What do you
want me to do?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Doc?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Like I also have heard different stories where they say
you can have if you have black coffee because I
just drink black coffee. If you have black coffee, you
can that's okay if you're fasting to get blood work.
And then I've heard others say no, no, no, don't
believe that. It's like every time, so I get a
different story. So I just don't do anything, literally nothing,
So just straight water.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Some people get so nervous when they go to the doctor.
Their blood pressure rises. Yeah, I mean yeah, you know,
and it's like, you know, they check the blood pressure
and it's like it's elevated because they're nervous there with
the doctor. That's why, Look, everybody should live their life.
I have my own medical routine. I got up in
the morning. I take seven's annex okay to.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Me, Hey, you know what I mean. Let me tell
you something. And for any of you that want to
be critical out there, it's not eight. It's seven, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
And then when I do, I mean, you drink jug
you drink coffee. You know a lot of people use
energy drinks. I for years have had an ivy infusion
of adrenaline like at eleven am. I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Wrong with that?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
No, listen, there's nothing wrong with that. I've heard a
lot of people go the IVY route if they want to,
if they want to feel better quickly. You know, a
lot of people will will take that approach. I mean,
they just had the Enhanced Game in Vegas, where it's
the Olympics, where everybody can get on the gas. I mean,
there is that out there, so you know, it's not
like it's not like people aren't you know, trying to
color outside the lines a little bit. I don't see
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what the problem is.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I read that was a disaster, by the way, Yeah,
I read it was a complete and total disaster.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, I mean what could go wrong?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Well, I mean nobody collapsed, but people just didn't get
into it as much as they thought they would.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's like, well, and the here's you know the part
about it. There were a couple of people who still
were planning on, uh, trying out for the Olympics, the
actual Olympics the next go around and say we're trying
to tell everybody that they were clean, like, oh, we're
going to be in the Enhanced Games, but we haven't
taken anything. It's like, so what's the point, right, Like
(26:50):
what what really?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Then go do something that's not looked down upon. Okay,
because the people here they're ready to risk it all, okay,
literally risk it all all right. They're looking to set
some records and get paid. And if you set a
world record, you get a million dollars. So I'm with you. Look,
if you want to, if you want to rip a
few zannas in the morning to get you ready to go.
(27:15):
I mean, it's look at the career you've had, so
it's worked.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, every to each their own. Yeah, let's go to
Pinpoint real quick.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Pinpoint was the greatest bowling show in history. You don't
remember Pinpoint?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I don't remember Pinpoint?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
No, oh my god. It was the best. You know
in bowling. If your mookie bet, you try to roll
a three hundred game, try to get strikes, try to
get the turkey, pick up the spare, grab the seven
ten split. That's bowling. Pinpoint was different. You had to
go backwards. So in Pinpoint, on your first roll, you
had to knock one pin down. If you're knock two,
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you're out. Your second role you had to knock two.
Your third role you had to knock three.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
That's a pain in the ash, that's real.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
That's like hitting the cycle on baseball playing Pinpoint.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Huh. Can we just marvel at the the way that
you tied all that together? Impossibly from a cycle conversation.
We had last segment that literally went through an entire
(28:26):
timeline that involved xanax, wine, bad medical advice, coffee, peds, coffee,
Mookie bets, turkey, and Pinpoint. The bowling game that's no
longer on television, which I can't find a trace of
(28:47):
anywhere in a search and just a basic search on Google.
Pinpoint Bowling Show was a CBS show.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I think I think it was. I think it was CBS. Yeah, Pinpoint,
it was great Musburger.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
No, it was best doing the coverage.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
No, it was back when Chris Schenkel was doing the
Pro Bowlers Tour on ABC and Nelson Burton Junior and
Earl Anthony and Johnny Petraglia were the bowlers. You remember
those days?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Oh yeah, they I mean, look, that's the you know,
that's what I live for. Nowadays, you got it on Fox.
You got Rob Stone out there, uh doing the doing
the bowling events. And by the way, I've heard very
upity crowd at the bowling events. You can't mess around
really yeah, like uh, Brady Quinn was telling me, uh,
Rob Stone was in his area calling an event, so
(29:37):
him and his girl, him and his daughters and his
wife made signs to go to the event and just
like sit in the background and have fun with him.
And it was like people were telling like, shut out,
what is this, Agusta? Yeah for bowling? What is this Augusta?
Are you serious? Like you gotta you got a slob
at the counter, sprang tanac and inside some shoes that
(30:02):
have been there since the place open, and we're worried
about what we're doing with a couple of signs in
the background on a TV show like if youah bowling?
Apparently it's got a real uppity vibe to it, just
like golf.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Had no idea. I think you gotta let lucid bowling.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Listen, you want to know why I don't bowl sober?
I don't know why I need to know, No, because
I have dignity. That's why if I'm bowling, I'm having
at least a couple of throat burners at least, and
that's at least a couple in the parking lot, and
then a couple more while I pay for the bowling shoes.
(30:40):
And everything to go along with it, and then a
couple hundred more while I'm actually doing the bowling. I'm
on the liver lube from start to finish because I
have dignity and pride of myself. Read how do you perform?
By the way bold to two ninety one time at
Brunswick and seem Valley.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
No, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
On my life Brunswick and Seemi Valley. Back at two
thousand and seven bowl it's two ninety I hit a ten,
I hit an I had. I had the transcript somewhere.
They printed out a transcript for me. I bowled a
I bowled an eight and a spare and then eleven
straight strikes. I used to be really good, and then
a couple of games later I did a two sixty eight,
(31:19):
and then a week later I bowled a two twenty
one left handed, bowled the entire game left handed Bolt's
two twenty one. I used to be really good. Bumpers,
then bumpers in. No bumpers, that's it. That's rude, by
the way. No bumpers. Uh yeah, I just I used
to be really good, and and then I decided, you know,
why don't I do it? But not drink as much
(31:42):
and then the game completely fell off a cliff.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So that was it.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
That was my enhanced games.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
You ever troubled by wearing those bowling shoes?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's gross.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
You wouldn't wear somebody else's shoes. You wouldn't go to
their house and put on their shoes.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No, it's gross, man, it's gross. And they just they
just spray it real quick. It's not even like a
They just just spray it and then they just they figure, ouh,
that's going to take care of things. I just think
about how many funky, disgusting feet have been in a
pair of bowling shoes exactly, Like I mean, I would
(32:19):
be surprised if Rex Ryan eats his weedies out of those.
But for anybody else who doesn't have a foot fetish,
you're not into it.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
You don't want to walk in there with a pair
of clean feet to go bowling with with with the
misses or with the family, and you got to walk
out of there with some guy's ToeJam crawling up your
ankles like it's one of the one of the villains
on Stranger Things because some guy washes his dirty ass
feet before he went in and bowled an eighty five
and thought he was a badass. It's unfortunate you want
(32:47):
those guys.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
You one of those guys with his own balls.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I used to add one. Yeah, no thumb though. I
would just go two fingers with no thumb so I
could get extra spin on it.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Is that legal?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, of course it's legal. Yeah, you just go, you
go thumb out like almost like the symbol for I
love you, you know when you throw and I love
you up? Jeez, Fred, have some I'm not flipping you off.
I'm just saying, like, you go like you know that,
and then you just may to spin it. By the way,
I also I have this. I don't know if you're
(33:19):
the same as me. I have a fascination with pitch grips.
Have you ever watched the way pictures like I have.
You've ever seen the way Otani throws a splitter or
the way Sasaki or some of these guys. I don't
have no idea how pitchers are able to manipulate a
baseball just using a pitch grip. It is wild me.
(33:42):
Like you could watch Kershaw throw a curveball and it
would be like, okay, that could make some sense, and
then you'll watch Otani and some of these guys throw
splitters and it makes no sense whatsoever. I don't get it.
I don't understand how you're able to do that and
make the ball move and manipulate it the way you do.
It's kind of wild. Stick them, Okay. I mean, I'm
(34:04):
not going to make reckless allegations against the Dodgers pitching
staff on this show here on the five seventy, the
Home of the Dodgers. I wouldn't do that. But if
you want to go that, we're oute, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I'm not saying the Dodgers. I'm just hypothesizing that could
be what it is. I mean, Trevor Barer knew all
about that. Well.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
He also played with drones and cut his hand and
before a playoff game and his hand was out there bleeding.
He was in a car accident. Reason you see that,
Trevor Bauer. Yeah, he got smoked at an intersection in Vegas.
All right, Yeah, I mean looked a little dazed, but yeah,
(34:42):
I think other than that, he's all right, that guy,
and he's just never going to be back in the majors, right.
Trevor Barrow that's just it.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Who's going to sign him? He said he played for free.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I just look, and we documented this at the time,
the stuff that he was accused of, all of that obviously,
the think I think it was things previous to that.
When he showed up to spring training. He had his
camera crew and all that, and he was probably way
(35:12):
ahead of his time for being honest nowadays with what
we see. But I think the Dodgers were just kind
of like, yeah, we're good here, Like we don't really
need this. This is not the way we operate. We're
trying to we do things a little different, and he
wanted to take that approach. But I'm just surprised that,
based on some of the information that's come out since
the accusations, that nobody's even given him a sniff, that
(35:35):
there hasn't even been any sort of a thought to
bringing him back. And I think I think I heard
that maybe the Phillies had kicked the tires on him
coming back in the last couple of years, and that
Major League Baseball squashed it, that they just stepped up
there this yeah, something like I think it was the
Phillies within the past couple of years and Major League
baseball just stepped up and said, no sun happening.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
All right. The next story we're gonna tell you may
surprise you. It's about Anthony Rendon.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
You remember I love him, Love him.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yes, we've got the story. Next.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
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Speaker 1 (36:37):
All Right, Today's throwback edition of Afternoon Delight, Jonas you
know this one? Come on, that's right? Call me Blondie?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, you know, I got you?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
All right? Six weeks to top the Billboard Hot one
hundred charts, spanning the months of May and June in
eighty In addition to going gold in the US, Italy
and Canada, song also received the Grammy nomination Best Rock
Performance by a Duo or Group, while Rolling Stone Ranke
did at number two eighty three, and It's list of
the five hundred Greatest Songs of All Time. Today's throwback
Thursday edition of Afternoon Delight Call Me by Blondie.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
This is rock. They consider this rock.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Really? Are you gonna question the Billboard? No, I'm just,
I just I was wondering problem with everything?
Speaker 2 (37:23):
No bye bye. By the way, I think I think
some people on social media have a problem with you.
Jose just sent me a tweet and said, can you
just be you and rip Uncle Fred today? And I
thought that was rather rude to be honest with you,
Fred and I are friends. Why would I do that.
I'm not gonna sit here and rip Fred on me.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Well, I mean that that speaks to two issues. First, Jose,
I'm not your uncle. But moreover, I mean maybe I am.
I don't know. But moreover, I think that's that's an
attack on your character because that's what they think of you,
not about me. This is a you issue. Why don't
(38:02):
you rip Uncle Fred? Why don't you attend un That's
about you, buddy, You're the one that needs therapy.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Not to hold on a second, Bill, hold a second.
I thought we had an agreement at the beginning of
the show. We're not gonna sit here and stain the
reputation of each other. We're not doing that. We do
that too often, We're not doing that today. And if anything,
we've called ourselves out on certain maybe flaws or routines
that we have that may or may not be the healthiest.
(38:31):
And I'm not gonna say who it was on this show.
But somebody said they popped seven's an X in the morning,
and I'm not gonna say who it was. It wasn't me,
but I'm not gonna say who it was on this show.
So I feel like we've kind of done our own
selves in. I don't think we need to take shots
at each other. And unless I'm not going to go
down that road, I refuse to go. I don't fall
for peer pressure.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
You know what, Let's start fresh. Let's start fresh. Okay,
we had a misstep, but we're back in business. Let's
start for.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
This is what.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
No, I'm into it. I agree, Let's let's go fresh
here already.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Anthony Rendona is back. Anthony Rendon, of course, who was
missing an action for the Angels from the moment he signed,
really had the greatest deal in baseball history, played like
twelve games. I got paid over three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
By the way, he was so good with Washington before
he got there. He really really was good. Right, It's
like he got paid music.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, fit, so you you wonder well, I don't know
where he moved to. But he's done. You know, I
know he came out in one stretch of whim and
it was hurt. There was a fight and he tried
to mush a guy in the face with his cat.
Oh yeah, that's really what we remember him for as
an Angel. You're the guy that said, I got my
priority straight here, and you know baseball is not the
most important thing to me. Well, when you're making three
(39:53):
hundred and forty five million dollars, I guess you can
say that. Remember that comment.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
I'd be listened. But to be honest, that sounds like
someone who does have their priorities in order. Like that's
somebody who does that. I'm just not gonna put baseball
in front of family of my faith. I'm sorry, guys,
I'm just not gonna do it. And I already got paid,
so I shouldn't have to do it. Sorry, he didn't.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
He didn't put the comma part in where I already
got paid, I shouldn't have to do it. He didn't
include the comma. He just said I'm not going to
do it. That didn't play well with people who watched
him or didn't see him with the Angels. Knowing he
made over three hundred million dollars and didn't play that.
That's an easy thing for you to say. It's the
right it's the right thing to say. By the way,
(40:34):
he could have handled that a little better. Anyway, good news.
I learned this the other day, and I was so
shocked that I had to just see it again from
my own eyes. Anthony rendon't apparently is back. Anthony rendon't
is running for public office? Oh really? Stated California? All right,
(40:54):
California Superintendent of public instruction. You can see his ads
on TV. Anthony Rendon? Will he actually show up to debates?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
Okay, that's I mean, I feel like that that's a
low blow, that's a shot, and that's.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Day to day with educational soreness, maybe load management for
standardized testing. Who knows the truth of the matter is
Anthony Rendon is running? Look him up.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Now.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I'm not well versed on the whole political scene. It's
just not really my strength. I chose sports for a
reason because I just don't get all that stuff. But
explain to me what his job would be and where
exactly he is running, because I haven't seen him. I
mean out here in Ventura County. I have not seen
(41:51):
any ads for Anthony Rendon. I'm just not And are
we sure this is legitimate? Or this is this like
some sort of an AI piece together? You know, bs,
let's have some fun at Anthony Rendon's expense because people
are still pissed off about it.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
No, it's Anthony Rendon, the former Speaker of the California Assembly.
That Anthony Rendon, that baseball player Anthony. Okay, all right,
fair enough, but he had the same name. Okay, so
it's not the former baseball player. No, it's a former
speaker of the California Assembly. He just has the same
name as again, Angel Anthony rundn't see this is this
(42:31):
is the problem. This is the same thing he did.
Let me just tell you something. Fred's gonna be the
reason that Artie Moreno sells the team. And he's going
to be the reason that he Artie Moreno sells the
team and it goes to somebody who like moves them
to Barstow. Like this is what's gonna happen because Fred
(42:54):
can't help himself but find some sort of an angle
to take a shot at the Angels. And I don't
know what the I don't know if this is because
you don't like Disneyland, and I don't blame you.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I don't like it either. I don't know if this
is because you've got some sort of problem with the ballpark,
which I don't understand. I mean, it's an easy in
and out. I mean, you know, getting into that ballpark's
quick and easy. The pricing seems fair. But I feel
like you go out of your way to sort of
revel in the fact that the Angels have struggled, and
there was no reason for you, in today's political climate
(43:26):
to try and calm the audience into thinking that Anthony Rendon,
who was I think third in the MVP voting, won
a World Series in Washington, got over two hundred million
dollars and then just decided, fit, I'm just not going
to play, and when I do, the highlight will be
me with a cast on trying to beat somebody's ass
(43:47):
in the middle of a fight. And you had to
bring that up because you just can't help yourself. You
got fans taking their shirts off in Angels games. You
did that, Fred, You're the one that stirred the pot
to have this sort of move movement go on. Meanwhile,
Kevin Figures is sitting back there with a Tim Samon bobblehead,
just trying to think about the good old days mine
(44:10):
in his own business. And you're bringing up all the
scars with the organization, the latest being Anthony Rendon. I mean,
what's next? Really? What else are you going to bring
up about the Angels? Red? What else?
Speaker 1 (44:22):
The rally Monkey?
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Okay, it worked, didn't It wasn't that the year they
won the World Series?
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah? Then what happened to? It fell by the wayside.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
It's been a while.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
I don't have a problem with the Angels, I really don't.
I just have a problem with everything surrounding them. I
don't have a problem with the Angels.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I mean, what more could you do?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Though?
Speaker 2 (44:46):
The fans are taking their shirts off, right, They're creating.
They're showing images of them jumping off the Angel sign
out in front of the ballpark, Like is hilarious, I'll
be They just fans falling off the the A, the
big A with the halo at the top. It's really
(45:10):
it really is creative. Like can I also, can I
tell you this about the Angels? This is a true
This is a true story. I am not at we
mentioned coffee okay, because it was my first cup of
coffee the other day. Yeah, let me just tell you this,
so years ago, I'm talking, this is twenty plus years ago.
When I was first trying to get into radio, I
(45:31):
would work with the great Jeff Biggs. Jeff Biggs, one
of the one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet,
was really really good to me. He was at A
five seventy for a while, but Jeff worked at the
Angel station. And so when I would go in there
to help him out, and we're talking like, I would
drive middle of the week in three hour traffic from
(45:51):
Thousand Oaks to Anaheim to try and get there to
help him out, and it would be off season Angel
talk all that, and so we'd get out there and
I would be, you know, so sort of basically interning,
you know, all for free. I would do call ins
from games and stuff for him if he would send
me out to games because I really wanted to get
into radio, and I would be, you know, a little
worn out because I'd worked all day and then I was,
(46:12):
you know, and he would say, yeah, if you want
to go grab a cup of coffee or whatever. So
the studios there are right around the corner from Arti
Moreno's office. So it's not as if you could really
lay waste to the organization, because if you go out
and hang left to Arti Moreno's office is right there. See,
you can't really light them up. And so if you
walk out of the studio, you would go left, it
(46:32):
would be already Moreno's office, and then you would go right.
You go through a sales floor, and then you would
go through the kitchen. And because I was there so often,
I just sort of recognized the taste of the coffee
inside the building whenever I would go there. Fast forward,
probably eighteen years later, I'm at a monster Jam event.
(46:55):
It's later in the evening. It's going on forever. I'm
like Beethoven, I can't hear anymore because it's so loud.
These things are so loud inside Angel Stadium. So I
go up to get a cup of coffee because we're
gonna be leaving, and I know it's going to be
a long ride home. It's the exact same coffee they
had in the office next to the radio station twenty
(47:18):
years earlier, and I swear to God on that it
is identical, and I'm tasting going where do I know
this from. Oh my god, there's been no upgrades, literally none,
from the facilities to the coffee, to anything in that place.
It is wild to go.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
To Back in the day they had to deal with
you ban coffee.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Don't swear to God. I swear to God.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
God, you know what it was.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
It's incredible. It is you literally, because you know they
like smell like smells and tastes bring back memories. You
smell them and you go, oh my god, I remember
where I was, or you taste them and go, wow,
this tastes just I stopped. I took a sip of
it and stopped as I was walking back to my seat, going,
oh my god. They've done nothing to upgrade this place.
(48:18):
Like they haven't gone from Senka to Folgers or whatever
it is. They just kept running it. I don't even
know if he sees the inventory. He just said, yeah,
that's fine, We'll just do the same thing you've been doing.
It's crazy, man, But if Fred has his way, everybody
be out of there soon.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
So okay, we do have a one hundred gift one
not of our gift card, just strand to give away today.
He's talking to do that sometime between nine and three,
and when we come back, try not to upset him.
How many is our friend Jonas ned COLETTI love that,
you know, Try it all right, just try to behave
(48:56):
please all right,
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