May 28, 2026 • 34 mins
Ned Colletti joins us to talk about the MLB CBA talks, injuries for the Dodgers and more. Wemby was reprimanded by the NBA for skipping out on media responsibilities after Game 5. More on Puka Nacua's potential contract extension.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan and Jonas k
noxon today for Rodney on a five seventy LA Sports.
Now we're joined by our good friend, the man in
the big chair. Put a smile on our face, warms
the cockles of our heart. Let's welcome on, Ned, Coleeddi
and Ned. Good afternoon to you.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey, gentlemen, good to be on with you today.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Ned. It's great that you wore my cockles of my heart,
so thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, well that's quite the honor.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Ned, friends of the mood, friends in the mood today.
I just want to I just want to let you
be aware of that early on Fred's field in some
kind of way.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
All right, all right, you know what. We'll get to
the doctors in a minute, but I want to start
with this because you had to sit through these so
you get them better than anybody. MLB has made its
first proposal to the players for the next CVA. They
want a salary cap. It would beget in twenty twenty seven.
The cap would be two hundred and forty five point
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three million, the floor would be one hundred and seventy
one point two million, and the league's proposal includes a
fifty to fifty split up revenues with players as well
as all revenue from local media centralized and then shared equally.
As revenues go up, so too does the cap. All right,
So that's proposal number one. You, as someone who has
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been through this, how do you think the players react
to proposal number one?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, I think if they could find a word that
wasn't salary cap, it might have a different reaction. I
think that that turns them off immediately. They've really made
their everybody's known for something. This union maybe the strongest
union in the country, and it's it's known for Hey,
we're not we're not going to restrict what players can earn,
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and so you know that's a nonstar. It's interesting after
reading their proposal yesterday, and that that MLB would be
higher on the floor side is interesting. And the fifty
to fifty split is it. I mean, there's a lot
of interesting components to it. But I think they'll have
to figure out a way just a guess, but figure
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out a way around that language and really the restricted
piece at the top. I think that will that will
turn the union off, probably immediately. I think this will
go for a while I'd be surprised if it's settled eterly,
but I would be even more surprised if one game
is missed next year. Nobody can afford to miss a game.
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Too much money in the sport on all sides, so
people are gonna, you know, say what they're gonna say,
and threaten and do all these other things. But end
of the day, I would be shocked if there's a
game missed.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, it also feels like and I can remember having
a conversation with my brother back you know, he was,
you know, a big baseball fan, and then the stoppage
in ninety four, he was he never really felt the
same about it, like it did so much damage to
the sport and how people felt about it, not let
alone you know, the seasons that were impacted that year,
whether it's the expos and records that could have been broken.
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But I almost look at it ned and I wonder,
at some point, does is anybody in the room of
either side that takes a step back and says, you guys,
realize we're onto something here. There's momentum, the popularity. It
feels like it's heading in a direction that's really really
positive for everybody. Somebody's got to step up and say,
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let's let's find a common ground here, because if we
kill the momentum, you don't want to run the risk
of being out of sight, out of mind like it
was back in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I agree, and that's why I don't think a.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Game gets missed.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Both sides are going to set their the line of
the sand. That's what they do, and that will happen
and probably going to happen in the next twenty four hours,
perhaps when there's a reaction from the union to the
owners offered today. So people are going to get upset
about it. People are going to hear all this stuff,
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But at the end of the day, all that really
matters is do you play a full season going forward?
And is there a better competitive balance? You go back
to ninety four, that Island was right in the middle
of my career doing that, and that that was based
upon the World Series didn't get played because of competitive balance,
because of luxury tax, because of revenue share. All those
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things were just coming into the aratus, so to speak.
And what do we have today? We have the same
conversation all these years later, we're still talking about, you know, compete,
can everybody compete, so it just keeps you know, it's
the same cycle. But I'll go back to what I
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just said to that they won't miss a game, and
you're right on because the momentum is too strong. People
have more choices today. Think of the choices people have
today compared to ninety four, and what they do with
their time and what they do with any money they
have over for you know, spending of this nature. There's
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far more choices than there were thirty two years ago,
and they gotta be wise what they do.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And also, I mean even think about it in this town.
If you would have told somebody years ago, hey man,
the Lakers are going to be taking a back seat
to somebody in town, it would they would even have
thought they were crazy. But I think the Dodgers, like
I think, their hold on the community out here is
so strong that it's almost as if the Lakers are
an afterthought. And I just even locally, if you were
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to ask people, hey, if you had to miss a game,
which one would you want to miss. Nobody wants to
miss a Dodger game, the Lakers whatever. We don't even
know what's going you know, what's with Lebron what's with
all the drama. It just feels like they're in such
a great place that that hopefully to your point, they're
not going to miss any games next.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Year, No exactly. And you know, Dodgers are special. They've
been special since since I was a little kid growing
up in Chicago. The Dodgers were always head and ar
around them. No greater than it is today. And you're right,
you know, it's still not easy to get to the
ball park, right. You still got traffic, you still got
all the issues. But yet you got fifty some thousand
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people showing up, you know, at least eighty one times
a year, and most of the time for another five
or ten.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I mean, Fred's got a parking spot that he occasionally
he gives that a little sub parking spot to get
people in and out faster.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
The number one spot at Dodger Stadium. I know where
it is. I'm not telling you, ned, but I know
where it is. So number one spot.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You're on your own so much for the cockles of
your heart. Right, you can tell me off.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'll tell you last one. But now here's the thing,
the on the salary cap, and then we'll move on
from this. So they started at a max of two
forty five. That's not going to be where they're going
to end. I know that. But what surprised me was
the floor at one hundred and seventy one. I thought
that was a little higher than they would start at.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Does that surprise you, yes, Oh, it was higher than
with the with the union proposed yesterday, I think, And
they wouldn't. I would never say that there's going to
be a floor, because the union believes if you have
a floor, you have a camp. But they mentioned something
I think I went I read through at one hundred
and fifty one hundred and fifty something that teams we're
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going to have to spend without being penalized. So, you know,
it's an interesting perspective. It's certainly not, you know, all
or nothing, But again, I don't know unless they can
really convince the union that that this is going to
drive salaries up and we're not going to restrict the
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earning power of certain individuals or anybody. Really, it's you know,
it's probably as big a non starter as you're going
to have, so but there's ways around it. You've got
really smart people on both sides. The Union does have
a new negotiator, you know in some ways, you know,
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he has not been there. He was involved in the
last one, I think, but not as the head of
the MLBPA. So whenever I have somebody who was negotiating
in a different position, just that I don't know him,
so I'm not I'm not speaking for him. But typically,
just in a generality, when somebody is in a new
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position of leadership and a negotiation, they feel they have
to do better than a predecessor. There's always a little
extra pressure that hey, I got you know, I'm replacing
somebody or I'm doing I'm in a different position, so
I need to make my consituents believe that they made
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the right choice. So you got a little bit of
that dynamic, I think. But again, there's enough smart people
and great negotiators in this in these rooms that they'll
figure it out. When they do, I don't know, but
they won't be missing a game at April.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Ned We were talking about Otani last night that you know,
even in the midst of a no hitter, you know,
he's hitting bombs, he's still pissed off, he's still got
a red ass. There's still more that he can do.
He's not satisfied and we were making the comp that
you see players come along in a different sport, maybe
a Kobe Jordan, a Tom Brady, to where they've never
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had that perfect game because they always think they could
do more, even though it's an amazing game that they
just put together. Have you seen in your career anybody
with that type of mentality or approach from a baseball
standpoint that reminds you a little bit of Otani to
where they're never satisfied and there could all always be
a higher ceiling they could get to.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's a great question. It would take me probably some
time to think about it. I know that that is
a and you mentioned some of the greatest and the
most rare of the group, and they do everybody you mentioned,
I would say, no doubt in that group almost one
of one. As you go sport the sport, I think
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there's a lot of players that come close to that.
I think there's probably a decent percentage that have the
mental approach to do that, But I think that percentage
shrinks drastically when you think about having the talent to
match it. I think you find a lot of people
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that if you're going to grade one to ten on
talent and a one to ten on fierceness, compete, hunger
to be successful over and over again. I think you
find a lot of people at ten on one side,
in five, six or seven on the other side, or
vice versa. To find the ten and the ten is
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a tough one. And the players you mentioned those are
tens and tens, and I think that that's off the
top of my head. I can think of a lot
that are ten on one side, but not necessarily the other.
But to find though ten that's on both the compete
fierceness never satisfied along with the ability to match it,
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I think you've got a very very very tiny group.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Ned So Key K comes back and he's out and
it's you know, just not a little ding. Then Taale
goes out last night. Yeah, a guy comes back and
he immediately gets hurt. I think psychologically for him, that's
got to be crushing. And then Tale gets hurt. What
do you think about the injuries that Dodgers are now
starting to accumulate.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Well, we not at junior so and they're starting to
pull away. You know, San Diego has played hard san Diego,
you know, Tati says as the other day, like had
no home runs. Machade's sitting under two hundred. I think,
so everybody's got either an injury or they got people
that are not performing up to what you would expect
to be there the typical. I think the dogs will
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continue to pull away. I think as you get to September,
you'll you'll have a very healthy team. It doesn't it
doesn't work me, It doesn't bother me. I think what
you have to do is, and this we say it
almost every week on your show, that you know, they
played a long game, so they'll be patient, and they'll
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let guys heal, and guys are going to get older,
and the guys that are starting to break a little
bit more regularly because of age and wear and tear.
And think how many more games Dodger players have played
than anybody else for the last twelve thirteen years. It's
probably a season, maybe a season and a half, and
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not just not just games, but a season and a
half of the most intense games. With the how to
spotlight that takes its toll. I mean, everybody's everybody is human, right,
so I'm not worried about it. I think it gives
a lot of players an opportunity to continue to get
more advants at this level because you've got a team
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that people compete for opportunity and they compete for the advants,
and so you'll you'll have a chance to see somebody
else playing to your spot. And KEYK obviously brings a
lot to this organization, and you know he should be
back before the end. And we know the month of October.
You know, you got you got KEYK and Reggie Jackson.
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That's it, you know, so I think they'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And it also feels like, you know, for others in
the organization, whether it's the scouting department, you know, whoever
it is, this is where you can kind of flex
your muscles because you can sort of show the depth
that you've acquired. Because it's kind of a lazy narrative.
And I hear it from people when they talk nationally
about the Dodgers. Well, of course, they just spend a
bunch of money. It's like, man, I don't know Andy
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pa has I don't remember him getting a seven hundred
million dollar contract. I don't remember some of these guys
getting big time deals. They were found, they were discovered,
they were acquired and have slowly just morphed into great players.
And so at least it feels like there's going to
be other guys that are going to get opportunities and
you're going to get to see in real time with
real bullets flying, whether or not they can play. And
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as an organization, I think it just showcases their skill
set to be able to talent, to be able to
scout and talent develop some of these great players that
they've had.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Absolutely it's a key part of any successful organization, and
you pick up you make good, great points about that,
and it's true and opportunity players always want opportunity. Well,
when somebody gets hurt, they get the opportunity. So you know,
what are they going to bring you? But they of
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this team, and we talked about show hey there for
a minute. There's nobody here that everybody looks at and
all eyes fall on that player to do it all.
Most teams have won maybe two players if they don't go,
you got no chance. This team has got so many
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players of that milk and younger players. You bring up
a look what he's done in the last year, like
how he has grown, but Will Smith, another drafted player,
what he has done become one of the best catchers
in the game and a leader and somebody that as
clutch as can be. So the opportunity is huge, and
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they have enough great players that can also bring the
younger guys into it. And nobody will look at anybody
as it's up to you to make this work. It's
one of the great teams and an emphasizer work teams
we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Nettaviw What about the Giant celebration? Will Clark talked about it.
Did you see this? You know, every team's got a
celebration if they win or or you don't get a
base hit, and the Giants were out in center field
like doing forward pelvic thrust at each other, and it
was it was a little they call that the rogan
by the way, that's not what they called and uh,
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I mean it, you know, somewhat sexual, somewhat demented. It
was very bad. I think the league even jumped in
and said, you guys got to stop doing that. And
then Will Clark has lost his mind and talked about
how awful and bush league it was. What do you
think about that? Net?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Well, maybe I'm old fashioned, you know, I always think
whether it's bad or anything else. I think what I
want a seven year old daughter or a son who's
starting to fall in love with a sport to see
that to ask asked the question, you know, maybe it's
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maybe it's full alady on my part to believe in
the innocence of youth. But you know, I don't think
I've been doing that. If if the team was winning
one hundred games instead of losing our games. But anyway,
different world.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
By the way, Ned, I was in Chicago a little
over a month ago, and I thought about you because
I walked into Gibson's the steakhouse, and I just looked
around and said, I said, this is a Colletti type place.
I could I could see Ned here back in the day,
like it just had a vibe. There's a vibe there
that that's got your name right now over it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Well, I got different. You know, that's not as Italian
as some of the places I would go to, but
there was certainly a place, a place to to have
a good evening. And then you got the lodge right
around the corner that oh you about five or six
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Russian Russian Division, by the way, you know you're doing
it Chicago when you're when you look down on the
ground and there's peanut shells all over your shoes.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Okay, yeahs gracious, yes, good spots, good good spots.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
All right, Ned, Ned, thank you for coming on. Thank
you for spending a few minutes with us. You know
it means the world to us, and I don't I
don't say that lightly.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Ned.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know the impact you have on all of our lives.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Do you know that? You know? I just think that
it was really a lot of bs. Do you want
to know it too? I think that's a lot of B.
Let's just say it. I still don't know where you're parking,
but you can say all you want is cheap.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Well, Ned, let's put it like this. Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
There you go, I'll take that all right?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
All right, gentlemen, you got a problem with everything, don't
you like we've got a problem with everything?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Hey? Hey, Ned, your thoughts on on three adult males
bumping cups in the outfield? What do you think she cant?
What do you think he's gonna say? Give him raises
like let them let them represent the union and the
negotiations for a new deal.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
All right, listen, when we come back you're upset and
we're just gonna bring it out. That's it.
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Speaker 1 (19:36):
All right, Jonas Nason today for Rodney. Thanks to need
KLEETI for coming on. By the way, we've got a
strand one dollars gift card to give away. We'll do
it between now and three o'clock. All right, so, uh ok,
so he can wrap things up against uh San Antonio.
By the way, Jonas, I think I think the Knicks
are gonna win the whole thing. Now we'll we get
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to that second Yeah, I do, Well, that'll be fun. God,
I think it'll be great for the NBA. Ah God, what.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
They're just nauseating, Like that whole fan base is nauseating.
They they really showed their ass last year for being
honest where they got past the second round because they
beat Boston. Tatum got hurt and all that, and you
had like Knicks fans crying in the street like you're
supposed to be this proud prestigious organization, and you've got
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adults walking around in John Stark's jerseys crying in the
streets because they got past the second round of the playoffs,
like that's the accomplishment, Like, oh my god. And then
they win the n season tournament. This year, they can't
even handle that, right because Josh Hart ends up thumbing
Jalen Brunson on the stage, which is a little weird.
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It's like, it's a little weird Fred when when your
teammates by no, it's like he's trying to catch a
cab in his ass, Like you're you're you're getting the
INN season Trophy. You're probably gonna hang that banner up
because it's been it's been a long ass time since
they've hung anything up at MSG and they're sitting there,
you know, uh, fondling each other on stage. It's just
the whole the fan bases obnoxious. You got all the
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like Tracy Morgan took time away from throwing up on
the court or defecating in a hotel room in Colorado
back in the day to actually root for the Knicks.
You got all these instant celebrity fans that are out there.
It's just the whole thing's nauseating. I just I can't
deal with it.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Sorry. Yeah, so I think it'll be a great story.
And I don't know why you're so against people showing
some emotion. I mean, people caring. What what is your
heart dark and cold? You can't allow people to celebrate
and enjoy. Now, I think the thumb the thumb was
a little much. I'm not gonna lie, that's weird. I
don't think you should give some on the stage. That's weird.
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It's different conversation. But I mean the fans filled with
joy and emotion, don't don't don't take that from them.
Don't deny people.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That it's nobody else's fault that it's been that long
since you guys have done anything. And also the other
part of it two that that bothers me, is it
wasn't that long ago that everybody wanted James Dolan out.
James Dolan to Knicks fans was ARTI moreno, was uh yes,
like basically McCourt like all of these like bad owners
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that have been in town. He was that guy. And
now everybody loves him all the you know, they're they're
they're celebrating him. He's great. But it wasn't that long ago.
He was having Charles Oakley physically removed by security and
not allowed in the stadium and he got buried for it.
But now everything is good, you know, because we won
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the nd season tournament, we got past the second round
and now we're in the NBA Finals. It's just yeah,
it's a lot of a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Of it feels pretty comfort. Then they still.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I don't know, man. Jalen Brunson made sure to shout
out James Dolan afterwards, like he was you know, he
was Veria. And by the way, you talk about an
organization that's happened to wear it a couple of years
in a row, Jalen Brunson was a Maverick.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So like.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Luca, Jalen Brunson feels like there's been some misses there
with the with the Mavericks organization over the past few years.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
No, they did a terrific job, you know. Ever since
Mark Cuban left, they really righted that ship, haven't they. Yes,
they've gone in the right.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Direction, right.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, obviously he didn't know what he was doing. These people,
they've got it together.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
When Mark Cuban says, I don't regret selling the team.
I regret who I sold it to. That feels problematic
as well, Like I don't I don't have sellers remorse.
I have sellers remorse to who bought it. Like that's
that's the real problem here. It just yeah, but they look,
you know, maybe uh, you know, maybe you're right, maybe
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the Knicks are gonna win it all.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, but before we get there, we've got to finish
up San Antonio and Okay, see and you got a
problem with Wemby, Well, I just.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Think he missed timed. It was it was a miscalculation.
He's a young player and it was a miscalculation. So
for people that aren't familiar, you have obligations to talk
to the media afterwards, like it's it's part of your
your duty.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
For as much money as they're paying, there are there
are you know, you have to do these things postgame,
even if you don't want to. And so, you know,
we saw the Golden Knights who are in the Stanley
Cup Final. They got fined a bunch of money and
lost a second round draft pick, like like they got
they they were punished because they didn't talk to the
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media after a game against Colorado earlier in the series
or it might have been the last series, and so
the NHL is not playing around well. Victor wem Mian
Yama had probably had definitely the worst game of this
series and one of the worst games he's had in
the postseason. Still on an awful game, but it just
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wasn't as effective and didn't talk with the media. And
we've seen players get fined, Jimmy Butler got pop twenty
five grand, all of that, and instead Victor Webbinyama was
warned by the NBA for not talking with the media
following the loss in Game five. I don't know what
that warning entails, Like, hey man, if you keep that up,
you know you know we're going to raise the rim
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of five more feet. So it makes it makes it
more realistic, so you can see how other players live
in the league. But I just look at it and
I go, if you're him, don't you pull that move
when you get eliminated when it's all said and done,
because you can really only use that one time, especially
if you're the Magic Johnson Award winner for Professional from
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the Professional Basketball Writers Association. It goes to the NBA
player who combines excellence on the court with cooperation and
grace in dealing with the media and fans. So if
you can only pull this stunt and they don't want
to completely make a mockery of the award they just
gave you, why wouldn't you just wait until you got eliminated.
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Now he can't do it because now it's gonna cost
him some money, and now he's gonna look like like
a little bit of a baby afterwards. I just think
he missed, he miss timed the move here, miscalculated it
for being honest.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You mean a guy can't have a bad day.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
No, it's fine. Listen, I will look I anytime a
player is pissed off following a game, like you see
the Manny Machado clips where he's talking with the media
in San Diego, and everybody loves to bury Manny Machada,
and I get it. But I also think if you
just had a bad day at work and the second
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you walk out of the office building, some guy runs
up with an iPhone recording in your face and says, Hey,
what do you think went wrong in there today? What
do you think what will happen there? What can you
explain your decision as to why you your lunch went
five minutes longer. He came back smelling like booze and cocaine,
and he'd be like, of course you're not gonna want
to have a conversation. You know, of course you're gonna
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You're gonna be pissed off of that. So I always
def I will defend players. It takes a lot to
bite your tongue and not lash out. Look, Kershaw used
to get into it with David Vass all the time, like,
you know, like I totally get it. So Victor webbin
Yama decided I don't want to have that moment, so
I'm just not going to talk to the media. Unfortunately,
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when they do get eliminated because I, you know, I
don't think they're gonna beat Okay, see now he can't
do that because he's already used this one and now
it's gonna cost him some money. A kind of a
rookie move. If you ask me Fred, well.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
You want to do Rams news next? You say you
have good news and good news for the Rams.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Oh yoh, yeah, this is great, this is great.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
That's nick.
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Speaker 1 (28:08):
So we talked yesterday. We chopped it up about Pooka
and Nakula. Should the Rams extend him?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
What should they do? But you believe you've got great
news for the Rams, and I know they're looking forward
to hearing it.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, well, great news for the Rams. I'll say, great
news for his own sake, pook and Nakua. Because I
was listening to you and Rodney talked yesterday. I was
actually on my way to go recycle bottles and cans.
And so how much you make for that twelve bucks yesterday?
I think it was twelve bucks and eighty six cents.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, And how many bottles and cans does it take
to make twelve bucks?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I don't know, man, because it's all by pound, and
you get more for I think you get more for
bottles than you do cans, and not as much for plastics.
It's just it's all yeah, it's very Yeah, that's different.
It's just a h I would say this. You know,
the guys who were doing it always give me a
confused look when they see, you know, an empty bottle
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of Hamaika, some Jarito's, you know, a few modelo and
then they see me and go, huh, what's going on there?
You know? Does hee?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know what what's that look like? And you know
I just went, hey, you know, I'm married into it, man,
and h I know the rest is history.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I know I've never done that. I know I have
never taken anything to the recycling really never.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Oh man, yeah I used to. Yeah, look you make
make a few bucks, you know, you run over there.
I mean, twelve bucks doesn't go as far as it
as it used to, but you could get almost two
gallons of gas with that twelve bucks.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Now what does it cost you to drive there?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Almost about that much. So yeah, it was a break even.
I mean it's not you know, it's not like you
can really get rich. But I mean I see people
bringing bags and bags and bags of cans and bottles
to to some of these recycling centers, and I can't imagine,
you know, what they're making there so look, you know
you wanna just it teaches you, Hey, it's got to
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go somewhere. Somebody's gonna take it. There's a reason why
people go through your garbage at times. They're looking for recyclables.
So why not be the one and you know, pocket
that twelve bucks and you know, spend it wisely. But yeah,
so I was driving there to go recycle bottles and
cans and I heard you and Rodney talking about these
situation with Puka and whether or not you would give
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him the contract. Right, there's two pieces of good news here,
all right. Number One, based on the conduct off the field,
the Rams are in a really strong position where they
don't have to do anything because on the field he's
proven his worth. I mean, he's been fantastic. He's and
getting better and better. It seems like he's unbelievable. But
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the Rams can play the whole. Yeah, we're not really sure,
you know, we don't know, And if we wanted to
do a deal at this point, we're going to give
him a low ball off or put in some contingencies
in there in case there's any sort of an episode
off the field again that we should be concerned with.
And It's not like the Rams are afraid to turn
their back or go in a different direction with an
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established wide receiver feeling they can find somebody in the draft,
especially nowadays with as many wide receivers that come out
NFL ready in real time from the college level, you
see it all the time. Jeremiah Smith next year. I
don't know if you've seen him at Ohio State. He's unbelievable.
I think he's twenty. He might he might have just
turned twenty. Guy's unbelievable. Maybe the best player in college
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football this upcoming season. Then the Rams look at it
and go, no, man, you just kind of leverage the
off field behavior against Puka. So I think the Rams
are in a good spot. I think They're also in
a good spot. I think Puka's in a good spot
because when you're playing in games, you know you don't
have to worry about him pulling AMaRV Albert because he
does have a mouthpiece in. So I think that I
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think that everybody everybody around him should feel like their
safety is not in jeopardy based on the fact that
he's got to have a mouthguard in, so you don't
have to worry about it.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
You really you really had to pull out that reference.
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I mean, hey, man, look Fred, you know, maybe maybe
the guy got hungry. I don't know what to tell you,
all right, but that's you know, Marv had some had some.
I just I think that, you know, I'm trying to
find the positive in this, and I know you want
to swim in the negative water.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Marv dressed a certain way and it made him hungry.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
U do you want to fill in the uh the
people listening that story.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
No, I don't, I'm not if you want to go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I mean allegedly that that's what Marv Albert allegedly listen
in great broadcaster and and you know, maybe the pre
eminent broadcasting family if you think about it, with how
many great broadcasters have come from the Albert family. But yeah,
I'm Marv allegedly mistook a human being for a ribbi.
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And you know there's apparently that might have happened on
New Year's Eve or New Year's Day whenever it was
with with Puka. And I just think the the the
positive in this because again you try and you know,
spin us into the negative side of things. I'm trying
to look positively at all this is that he's going
to have a mouthpiece in dude, what are we really
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worried about? I mean, you know, and if he does
pull the Mike Tyson and spit it out to go
get a to go get a taste, then then you know,
right then and there you know whether or not you
want to give this guy contract extension. I just think
I think there's bright spots in all of this. Not
everything has to be so negative the way that you
painted Fred.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
All right, well if you look at it like that
point all right, as we continue next hour, Kevin will
have everything that's going on and it's lit. Kevin, do
we have a cheese for its lit today? Apparently we don't.
(34:18):
I thought we discussed this yesterday. We're gonna have a
tease for it's lit. No, no, no, we do, frant
we do thought. Let's you sit there and sweat for
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
We have enough date.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
On the NBA anti tanking proposal.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Oh, we also have a response from the Major League
Baseball Players Association to Mob's CBA proposal from earlier today.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
So that's coming up, and it's lit. Okay, And when
we come back, Lonzo Ball and the BBB's shoes,
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan and Jonas k
noxon today for Rodney on a five seventy LA Sports.
Now we're joined by our good friend, the man in
the big chair. Put a smile on our face, warms
the cockles of our heart. Let's welcome on, Ned, Coleeddi
and Ned. Good afternoon to you.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey, gentlemen, good to be on with you today.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Ned. It's great that you wore my cockles of my heart,
so thank you for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, well that's quite the honor.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Ned, friends of the mood, friends in the mood today.
I just want to I just want to let you
be aware of that early on Fred's field in some
kind of way.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
All right, all right, you know what. We'll get to
the doctors in a minute, but I want to start
with this because you had to sit through these so
you get them better than anybody. MLB has made its
first proposal to the players for the next CVA. They
want a salary cap. It would beget in twenty twenty seven.
The cap would be two hundred and forty five point
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three million, the floor would be one hundred and seventy
one point two million, and the league's proposal includes a
fifty to fifty split up revenues with players as well
as all revenue from local media centralized and then shared equally.
As revenues go up, so too does the cap. All right,
So that's proposal number one. You, as someone who has
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been through this, how do you think the players react
to proposal number one?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, I think if they could find a word that
wasn't salary cap, it might have a different reaction. I
think that that turns them off immediately. They've really made
their everybody's known for something. This union maybe the strongest
union in the country, and it's it's known for Hey,
we're not we're not going to restrict what players can earn,
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and so you know that's a nonstar. It's interesting after
reading their proposal yesterday, and that that MLB would be
higher on the floor side is interesting. And the fifty
to fifty split is it. I mean, there's a lot
of interesting components to it. But I think they'll have
to figure out a way just a guess, but figure
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out a way around that language and really the restricted
piece at the top. I think that will that will
turn the union off, probably immediately. I think this will
go for a while I'd be surprised if it's settled eterly,
but I would be even more surprised if one game
is missed next year. Nobody can afford to miss a game.
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Too much money in the sport on all sides, so
people are gonna, you know, say what they're gonna say,
and threaten and do all these other things. But end
of the day, I would be shocked if there's a
game missed.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, it also feels like and I can remember having
a conversation with my brother back you know, he was,
you know, a big baseball fan, and then the stoppage
in ninety four, he was he never really felt the
same about it, like it did so much damage to
the sport and how people felt about it, not let
alone you know, the seasons that were impacted that year,
whether it's the expos and records that could have been broken.
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But I almost look at it ned and I wonder,
at some point, does is anybody in the room of
either side that takes a step back and says, you guys,
realize we're onto something here. There's momentum, the popularity. It
feels like it's heading in a direction that's really really
positive for everybody. Somebody's got to step up and say,
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let's let's find a common ground here, because if we
kill the momentum, you don't want to run the risk
of being out of sight, out of mind like it
was back in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I agree, and that's why I don't think a.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Game gets missed.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Both sides are going to set their the line of
the sand. That's what they do, and that will happen
and probably going to happen in the next twenty four hours,
perhaps when there's a reaction from the union to the
owners offered today. So people are going to get upset
about it. People are going to hear all this stuff,
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But at the end of the day, all that really
matters is do you play a full season going forward?
And is there a better competitive balance? You go back
to ninety four, that Island was right in the middle
of my career doing that, and that that was based
upon the World Series didn't get played because of competitive balance,
because of luxury tax, because of revenue share. All those
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things were just coming into the aratus, so to speak.
And what do we have today? We have the same
conversation all these years later, we're still talking about, you know, compete,
can everybody compete, so it just keeps you know, it's
the same cycle. But I'll go back to what I
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just said to that they won't miss a game, and
you're right on because the momentum is too strong. People
have more choices today. Think of the choices people have
today compared to ninety four, and what they do with
their time and what they do with any money they
have over for you know, spending of this nature. There's
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far more choices than there were thirty two years ago,
and they gotta be wise what they do.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And also, I mean even think about it in this town.
If you would have told somebody years ago, hey man,
the Lakers are going to be taking a back seat
to somebody in town, it would they would even have
thought they were crazy. But I think the Dodgers, like
I think, their hold on the community out here is
so strong that it's almost as if the Lakers are
an afterthought. And I just even locally, if you were
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to ask people, hey, if you had to miss a game,
which one would you want to miss. Nobody wants to
miss a Dodger game, the Lakers whatever. We don't even
know what's going you know, what's with Lebron what's with
all the drama. It just feels like they're in such
a great place that that hopefully to your point, they're
not going to miss any games next.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Year, No exactly. And you know, Dodgers are special. They've
been special since since I was a little kid growing
up in Chicago. The Dodgers were always head and ar
around them. No greater than it is today. And you're right,
you know, it's still not easy to get to the
ball park, right. You still got traffic, you still got
all the issues. But yet you got fifty some thousand
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people showing up, you know, at least eighty one times
a year, and most of the time for another five
or ten.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I mean, Fred's got a parking spot that he occasionally
he gives that a little sub parking spot to get
people in and out faster.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
The number one spot at Dodger Stadium. I know where
it is. I'm not telling you, ned, but I know
where it is. So number one spot.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You're on your own so much for the cockles of
your heart. Right, you can tell me off.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I'll tell you last one. But now here's the thing,
the on the salary cap, and then we'll move on
from this. So they started at a max of two
forty five. That's not going to be where they're going
to end. I know that. But what surprised me was
the floor at one hundred and seventy one. I thought
that was a little higher than they would start at.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Does that surprise you, yes, Oh, it was higher than
with the with the union proposed yesterday, I think, And
they wouldn't. I would never say that there's going to
be a floor, because the union believes if you have
a floor, you have a camp. But they mentioned something
I think I went I read through at one hundred
and fifty one hundred and fifty something that teams we're
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going to have to spend without being penalized. So, you know,
it's an interesting perspective. It's certainly not, you know, all
or nothing, But again, I don't know unless they can
really convince the union that that this is going to
drive salaries up and we're not going to restrict the
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earning power of certain individuals or anybody. Really, it's you know,
it's probably as big a non starter as you're going
to have, so but there's ways around it. You've got
really smart people on both sides. The Union does have
a new negotiator, you know in some ways, you know,
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he has not been there. He was involved in the
last one, I think, but not as the head of
the MLBPA. So whenever I have somebody who was negotiating
in a different position, just that I don't know him,
so I'm not I'm not speaking for him. But typically,
just in a generality, when somebody is in a new
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position of leadership and a negotiation, they feel they have
to do better than a predecessor. There's always a little
extra pressure that hey, I got you know, I'm replacing
somebody or I'm doing I'm in a different position, so
I need to make my consituents believe that they made
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the right choice. So you got a little bit of
that dynamic, I think. But again, there's enough smart people
and great negotiators in this in these rooms that they'll
figure it out. When they do, I don't know, but
they won't be missing a game at April.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Ned We were talking about Otani last night that you know,
even in the midst of a no hitter, you know,
he's hitting bombs, he's still pissed off, he's still got
a red ass. There's still more that he can do.
He's not satisfied and we were making the comp that
you see players come along in a different sport, maybe
a Kobe Jordan, a Tom Brady, to where they've never
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had that perfect game because they always think they could
do more, even though it's an amazing game that they
just put together. Have you seen in your career anybody
with that type of mentality or approach from a baseball
standpoint that reminds you a little bit of Otani to
where they're never satisfied and there could all always be
a higher ceiling they could get to.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That's a great question. It would take me probably some
time to think about it. I know that that is
a and you mentioned some of the greatest and the
most rare of the group, and they do everybody you mentioned,
I would say, no doubt in that group almost one
of one. As you go sport the sport, I think
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there's a lot of players that come close to that.
I think there's probably a decent percentage that have the
mental approach to do that, But I think that percentage
shrinks drastically when you think about having the talent to
match it. I think you find a lot of people
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that if you're going to grade one to ten on
talent and a one to ten on fierceness, compete, hunger
to be successful over and over again. I think you
find a lot of people at ten on one side,
in five, six or seven on the other side, or
vice versa. To find the ten and the ten is
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a tough one. And the players you mentioned those are
tens and tens, and I think that that's off the
top of my head. I can think of a lot
that are ten on one side, but not necessarily the other.
But to find though ten that's on both the compete
fierceness never satisfied along with the ability to match it,
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I think you've got a very very very tiny group.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Ned So Key K comes back and he's out and
it's you know, just not a little ding. Then Taale
goes out last night. Yeah, a guy comes back and
he immediately gets hurt. I think psychologically for him, that's
got to be crushing. And then Tale gets hurt. What
do you think about the injuries that Dodgers are now
starting to accumulate.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Well, we not at junior so and they're starting to
pull away. You know, San Diego has played hard san Diego,
you know, Tati says as the other day, like had
no home runs. Machade's sitting under two hundred. I think,
so everybody's got either an injury or they got people
that are not performing up to what you would expect
to be there the typical. I think the dogs will
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continue to pull away. I think as you get to September,
you'll you'll have a very healthy team. It doesn't it
doesn't work me, It doesn't bother me. I think what
you have to do is, and this we say it
almost every week on your show, that you know, they
played a long game, so they'll be patient, and they'll
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let guys heal, and guys are going to get older,
and the guys that are starting to break a little
bit more regularly because of age and wear and tear.
And think how many more games Dodger players have played
than anybody else for the last twelve thirteen years. It's
probably a season, maybe a season and a half, and
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not just not just games, but a season and a
half of the most intense games. With the how to
spotlight that takes its toll. I mean, everybody's everybody is human, right,
so I'm not worried about it. I think it gives
a lot of players an opportunity to continue to get
more advants at this level because you've got a team
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that people compete for opportunity and they compete for the advants,
and so you'll you'll have a chance to see somebody
else playing to your spot. And KEYK obviously brings a
lot to this organization, and you know he should be
back before the end. And we know the month of October.
You know, you got you got KEYK and Reggie Jackson.
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That's it, you know, so I think they'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And it also feels like, you know, for others in
the organization, whether it's the scouting department, you know, whoever
it is, this is where you can kind of flex
your muscles because you can sort of show the depth
that you've acquired. Because it's kind of a lazy narrative.
And I hear it from people when they talk nationally
about the Dodgers. Well, of course, they just spend a
bunch of money. It's like, man, I don't know Andy
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pa has I don't remember him getting a seven hundred
million dollar contract. I don't remember some of these guys
getting big time deals. They were found, they were discovered,
they were acquired and have slowly just morphed into great players.
And so at least it feels like there's going to
be other guys that are going to get opportunities and
you're going to get to see in real time with
real bullets flying, whether or not they can play. And
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as an organization, I think it just showcases their skill
set to be able to talent, to be able to
scout and talent develop some of these great players that
they've had.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Absolutely it's a key part of any successful organization, and
you pick up you make good, great points about that,
and it's true and opportunity players always want opportunity. Well,
when somebody gets hurt, they get the opportunity. So you know,
what are they going to bring you? But they of
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this team, and we talked about show hey there for
a minute. There's nobody here that everybody looks at and
all eyes fall on that player to do it all.
Most teams have won maybe two players if they don't go,
you got no chance. This team has got so many
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players of that milk and younger players. You bring up
a look what he's done in the last year, like
how he has grown, but Will Smith, another drafted player,
what he has done become one of the best catchers
in the game and a leader and somebody that as
clutch as can be. So the opportunity is huge, and
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they have enough great players that can also bring the
younger guys into it. And nobody will look at anybody
as it's up to you to make this work. It's
one of the great teams and an emphasizer work teams
we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Nettaviw What about the Giant celebration? Will Clark talked about it.
Did you see this? You know, every team's got a
celebration if they win or or you don't get a
base hit, and the Giants were out in center field
like doing forward pelvic thrust at each other, and it
was it was a little they call that the rogan
by the way, that's not what they called and uh,
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I mean it, you know, somewhat sexual, somewhat demented. It
was very bad. I think the league even jumped in
and said, you guys got to stop doing that. And
then Will Clark has lost his mind and talked about
how awful and bush league it was. What do you
think about that? Net?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Well, maybe I'm old fashioned, you know, I always think
whether it's bad or anything else. I think what I
want a seven year old daughter or a son who's
starting to fall in love with a sport to see
that to ask asked the question, you know, maybe it's
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maybe it's full alady on my part to believe in
the innocence of youth. But you know, I don't think
I've been doing that. If if the team was winning
one hundred games instead of losing our games. But anyway,
different world.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
By the way, Ned, I was in Chicago a little
over a month ago, and I thought about you because
I walked into Gibson's the steakhouse, and I just looked
around and said, I said, this is a Colletti type place.
I could I could see Ned here back in the day,
like it just had a vibe. There's a vibe there
that that's got your name right now over it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Well, I got different. You know, that's not as Italian
as some of the places I would go to, but
there was certainly a place, a place to to have
a good evening. And then you got the lodge right
around the corner that oh you about five or six
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Russian Russian Division, by the way, you know you're doing
it Chicago when you're when you look down on the
ground and there's peanut shells all over your shoes.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Okay, yeahs gracious, yes, good spots, good good spots.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
All right, Ned, Ned, thank you for coming on. Thank
you for spending a few minutes with us. You know
it means the world to us, and I don't I
don't say that lightly.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Ned.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know the impact you have on all of our lives.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Do you know that? You know? I just think that
it was really a lot of bs. Do you want
to know it too? I think that's a lot of B.
Let's just say it. I still don't know where you're parking,
but you can say all you want is cheap.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Well, Ned, let's put it like this. Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
There you go, I'll take that all right?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
All right, gentlemen, you got a problem with everything, don't
you like we've got a problem with everything?
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Hey? Hey, Ned, your thoughts on on three adult males
bumping cups in the outfield? What do you think she cant?
What do you think he's gonna say? Give him raises
like let them let them represent the union and the
negotiations for a new deal.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
All right, listen, when we come back you're upset and
we're just gonna bring it out. That's it.
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Speaker 1 (19:36):
All right, Jonas Nason today for Rodney. Thanks to need
KLEETI for coming on. By the way, we've got a
strand one dollars gift card to give away. We'll do
it between now and three o'clock. All right, so, uh ok,
so he can wrap things up against uh San Antonio.
By the way, Jonas, I think I think the Knicks
are gonna win the whole thing. Now we'll we get
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to that second Yeah, I do, Well, that'll be fun. God,
I think it'll be great for the NBA. Ah God, what.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
They're just nauseating, Like that whole fan base is nauseating.
They they really showed their ass last year for being
honest where they got past the second round because they
beat Boston. Tatum got hurt and all that, and you
had like Knicks fans crying in the street like you're
supposed to be this proud prestigious organization, and you've got
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adults walking around in John Stark's jerseys crying in the
streets because they got past the second round of the playoffs,
like that's the accomplishment, Like, oh my god. And then
they win the n season tournament. This year, they can't
even handle that, right because Josh Hart ends up thumbing
Jalen Brunson on the stage, which is a little weird.
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It's like, it's a little weird Fred when when your
teammates by no, it's like he's trying to catch a
cab in his ass, Like you're you're you're getting the
INN season Trophy. You're probably gonna hang that banner up
because it's been it's been a long ass time since
they've hung anything up at MSG and they're sitting there,
you know, uh, fondling each other on stage. It's just
the whole the fan bases obnoxious. You got all the
(21:11):
like Tracy Morgan took time away from throwing up on
the court or defecating in a hotel room in Colorado
back in the day to actually root for the Knicks.
You got all these instant celebrity fans that are out there.
It's just the whole thing's nauseating. I just I can't
deal with it.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Sorry. Yeah, so I think it'll be a great story.
And I don't know why you're so against people showing
some emotion. I mean, people caring. What what is your
heart dark and cold? You can't allow people to celebrate
and enjoy. Now, I think the thumb the thumb was
a little much. I'm not gonna lie, that's weird. I
don't think you should give some on the stage. That's weird.
(21:48):
It's different conversation. But I mean the fans filled with
joy and emotion, don't don't don't take that from them.
Don't deny people.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That it's nobody else's fault that it's been that long
since you guys have done anything. And also the other
part of it two that that bothers me, is it
wasn't that long ago that everybody wanted James Dolan out.
James Dolan to Knicks fans was ARTI moreno, was uh yes,
like basically McCourt like all of these like bad owners
(22:20):
that have been in town. He was that guy. And
now everybody loves him all the you know, they're they're
they're celebrating him. He's great. But it wasn't that long ago.
He was having Charles Oakley physically removed by security and
not allowed in the stadium and he got buried for it.
But now everything is good, you know, because we won
(22:42):
the nd season tournament, we got past the second round
and now we're in the NBA Finals. It's just yeah,
it's a lot of a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Of it feels pretty comfort. Then they still.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I don't know, man. Jalen Brunson made sure to shout
out James Dolan afterwards, like he was you know, he
was Veria. And by the way, you talk about an
organization that's happened to wear it a couple of years
in a row, Jalen Brunson was a Maverick.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So like.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Luca, Jalen Brunson feels like there's been some misses there
with the with the Mavericks organization over the past few years.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
No, they did a terrific job, you know. Ever since
Mark Cuban left, they really righted that ship, haven't they. Yes,
they've gone in the right.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Direction, right.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, obviously he didn't know what he was doing. These people,
they've got it together.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
When Mark Cuban says, I don't regret selling the team.
I regret who I sold it to. That feels problematic
as well, Like I don't I don't have sellers remorse.
I have sellers remorse to who bought it. Like that's
that's the real problem here. It just yeah, but they look,
you know, maybe uh, you know, maybe you're right, maybe
(23:53):
the Knicks are gonna win it all.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, but before we get there, we've got to finish
up San Antonio and Okay, see and you got a
problem with Wemby, Well, I just.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Think he missed timed. It was it was a miscalculation.
He's a young player and it was a miscalculation. So
for people that aren't familiar, you have obligations to talk
to the media afterwards, like it's it's part of your
your duty.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
For as much money as they're paying, there are there
are you know, you have to do these things postgame,
even if you don't want to. And so, you know,
we saw the Golden Knights who are in the Stanley
Cup Final. They got fined a bunch of money and
lost a second round draft pick, like like they got
they they were punished because they didn't talk to the
(24:39):
media after a game against Colorado earlier in the series
or it might have been the last series, and so
the NHL is not playing around well. Victor wem Mian
Yama had probably had definitely the worst game of this
series and one of the worst games he's had in
the postseason. Still on an awful game, but it just
(24:59):
wasn't as effective and didn't talk with the media. And
we've seen players get fined, Jimmy Butler got pop twenty
five grand, all of that, and instead Victor Webbinyama was
warned by the NBA for not talking with the media
following the loss in Game five. I don't know what
that warning entails, Like, hey man, if you keep that up,
you know you know we're going to raise the rim
(25:20):
of five more feet. So it makes it makes it
more realistic, so you can see how other players live
in the league. But I just look at it and
I go, if you're him, don't you pull that move
when you get eliminated when it's all said and done,
because you can really only use that one time, especially
if you're the Magic Johnson Award winner for Professional from
(25:42):
the Professional Basketball Writers Association. It goes to the NBA
player who combines excellence on the court with cooperation and
grace in dealing with the media and fans. So if
you can only pull this stunt and they don't want
to completely make a mockery of the award they just
gave you, why wouldn't you just wait until you got eliminated.
(26:02):
Now he can't do it because now it's gonna cost
him some money, and now he's gonna look like like
a little bit of a baby afterwards. I just think
he missed, he miss timed the move here, miscalculated it
for being honest.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You mean a guy can't have a bad day.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
No, it's fine. Listen, I will look I anytime a
player is pissed off following a game, like you see
the Manny Machado clips where he's talking with the media
in San Diego, and everybody loves to bury Manny Machada,
and I get it. But I also think if you
just had a bad day at work and the second
(26:35):
you walk out of the office building, some guy runs
up with an iPhone recording in your face and says, Hey,
what do you think went wrong in there today? What
do you think what will happen there? What can you
explain your decision as to why you your lunch went
five minutes longer. He came back smelling like booze and cocaine,
and he'd be like, of course you're not gonna want
to have a conversation. You know, of course you're gonna
(26:56):
You're gonna be pissed off of that. So I always
def I will defend players. It takes a lot to
bite your tongue and not lash out. Look, Kershaw used
to get into it with David Vass all the time, like,
you know, like I totally get it. So Victor webbin
Yama decided I don't want to have that moment, so
I'm just not going to talk to the media. Unfortunately,
(27:18):
when they do get eliminated because I, you know, I
don't think they're gonna beat Okay, see now he can't
do that because he's already used this one and now
it's gonna cost him some money. A kind of a
rookie move. If you ask me Fred, well.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
You want to do Rams news next? You say you
have good news and good news for the Rams.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Oh yoh, yeah, this is great, this is great.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
That's nick.
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Speaker 1 (28:08):
So we talked yesterday. We chopped it up about Pooka
and Nakula. Should the Rams extend him?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
What should they do? But you believe you've got great
news for the Rams, and I know they're looking forward
to hearing it.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Yeah, well, great news for the Rams. I'll say, great
news for his own sake, pook and Nakua. Because I
was listening to you and Rodney talked yesterday. I was
actually on my way to go recycle bottles and cans.
And so how much you make for that twelve bucks yesterday?
I think it was twelve bucks and eighty six cents.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, And how many bottles and cans does it take
to make twelve bucks?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I don't know, man, because it's all by pound, and
you get more for I think you get more for
bottles than you do cans, and not as much for plastics.
It's just it's all yeah, it's very Yeah, that's different.
It's just a h I would say this. You know,
the guys who were doing it always give me a
confused look when they see, you know, an empty bottle
(29:04):
of Hamaika, some Jarito's, you know, a few modelo and
then they see me and go, huh, what's going on there?
You know? Does hee?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know what what's that look like? And you know
I just went, hey, you know, I'm married into it, man,
and h I know the rest is history.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I know I've never done that. I know I have
never taken anything to the recycling really never.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Oh man, yeah I used to. Yeah, look you make
make a few bucks, you know, you run over there.
I mean, twelve bucks doesn't go as far as it
as it used to, but you could get almost two
gallons of gas with that twelve bucks.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Now what does it cost you to drive there?
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Almost about that much. So yeah, it was a break even.
I mean it's not you know, it's not like you
can really get rich. But I mean I see people
bringing bags and bags and bags of cans and bottles
to to some of these recycling centers, and I can't imagine,
you know, what they're making there so look, you know
you wanna just it teaches you, Hey, it's got to
(30:08):
go somewhere. Somebody's gonna take it. There's a reason why
people go through your garbage at times. They're looking for recyclables.
So why not be the one and you know, pocket
that twelve bucks and you know, spend it wisely. But yeah,
so I was driving there to go recycle bottles and
cans and I heard you and Rodney talking about these
situation with Puka and whether or not you would give
(30:30):
him the contract. Right, there's two pieces of good news here,
all right. Number One, based on the conduct off the field,
the Rams are in a really strong position where they
don't have to do anything because on the field he's
proven his worth. I mean, he's been fantastic. He's and
getting better and better. It seems like he's unbelievable. But
(30:54):
the Rams can play the whole. Yeah, we're not really sure,
you know, we don't know, And if we wanted to
do a deal at this point, we're going to give
him a low ball off or put in some contingencies
in there in case there's any sort of an episode
off the field again that we should be concerned with.
And It's not like the Rams are afraid to turn
their back or go in a different direction with an
(31:16):
established wide receiver feeling they can find somebody in the draft,
especially nowadays with as many wide receivers that come out
NFL ready in real time from the college level, you
see it all the time. Jeremiah Smith next year. I
don't know if you've seen him at Ohio State. He's unbelievable.
I think he's twenty. He might he might have just
turned twenty. Guy's unbelievable. Maybe the best player in college
(31:38):
football this upcoming season. Then the Rams look at it
and go, no, man, you just kind of leverage the
off field behavior against Puka. So I think the Rams
are in a good spot. I think They're also in
a good spot. I think Puka's in a good spot
because when you're playing in games, you know you don't
have to worry about him pulling AMaRV Albert because he
does have a mouthpiece in. So I think that I
(32:01):
think that everybody everybody around him should feel like their
safety is not in jeopardy based on the fact that
he's got to have a mouthguard in, so you don't
have to worry about it.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
You really you really had to pull out that reference.
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I mean, hey, man, look Fred, you know, maybe maybe
the guy got hungry. I don't know what to tell you,
all right, but that's you know, Marv had some had some.
I just I think that, you know, I'm trying to
find the positive in this, and I know you want
to swim in the negative water.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Marv dressed a certain way and it made him hungry.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
U do you want to fill in the uh the
people listening that story.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
No, I don't, I'm not if you want to go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
I mean allegedly that that's what Marv Albert allegedly listen
in great broadcaster and and you know, maybe the pre
eminent broadcasting family if you think about it, with how
many great broadcasters have come from the Albert family. But yeah,
I'm Marv allegedly mistook a human being for a ribbi.
(33:13):
And you know there's apparently that might have happened on
New Year's Eve or New Year's Day whenever it was
with with Puka. And I just think the the the
positive in this because again you try and you know,
spin us into the negative side of things. I'm trying
to look positively at all this is that he's going
to have a mouthpiece in dude, what are we really
(33:35):
worried about? I mean, you know, and if he does
pull the Mike Tyson and spit it out to go
get a to go get a taste, then then you know,
right then and there you know whether or not you
want to give this guy contract extension. I just think
I think there's bright spots in all of this. Not
everything has to be so negative the way that you
painted Fred.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
All right, well if you look at it like that
point all right, as we continue next hour, Kevin will
have everything that's going on and it's lit. Kevin, do
we have a cheese for its lit today? Apparently we don't.
(34:18):
I thought we discussed this yesterday. We're gonna have a
tease for it's lit. No, no, no, we do, frant
we do thought. Let's you sit there and sweat for
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
We have enough date.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
On the NBA anti tanking proposal.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Oh, we also have a response from the Major League
Baseball Players Association to Mob's CBA proposal from earlier today.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
So that's coming up, and it's lit. Okay, And when
we come back, Lonzo Ball and the BBB's shoes,
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