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May 28, 2026 41 mins

A discussion that was supposed to center around Lonzo Ball and the BBB shoes turns into a discussion about ripped jeans, kilts, sarangs and more. We did eventually end up talking about Lonzo and the BBB shoes in Its Lit, along with an update on the NBA's anti-tanking reform and the MLBPA's response to MLB's hard salary cap proposal.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Let's continue on Fred Rogan Jonas Knox sitting today for
Rodney five seventy LA Sports. I just want to say
as we begin our three Kevin will have insult coming
up in a bit, and we have the gift card
from the strand to give away here also coming up
this hour. I think, for the most part, you have
done a representative job of trying to keep it together

(00:26):
in the first two hours, and that is something I appreciate.
I don't know if we acknowledge success enough in life,
and I've got to give you a shout out. For
the most part, you've done pretty well.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I appreciate it. I would have preferred something else that
I just noticed about five minutes ago. Now that we are,
you know, two hours and change into the show, I
would have, you know what I would have appreciated instead
of the compliment from you, which, by the way, a
compliment from Fred on the air always lands with sincerity,
just asked Ned Coletti. But I would say I would

(00:58):
have appreciated if you would have clued me into the
fact that I had a toothpaste stain on my shirt
that's been sitting here for two hours. I look like
Gorbachev's head and there's just like a drizzle of toothpaste
sitting on my on my black shirt and im and
I'm wondering why it is that you would would not
have pointed that out to me, and you just let

(01:18):
me walk around. It's like get letting your buddy walk
around with his fly down. It's like, at some point
if you see it, let him know, like, hey man,
the horse's going to come out of the barn, do
something about it.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I looked at it like this. It was a designer move.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
It was a designers shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Right. It's like jeans with holes in them.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
You know, you know I can buy some jeans with
holes in them. Well, first I have jeans, I have
holes in them. Get rid of them. They're no good.
Well let me go buy some jeans with holes. They're
three hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
By the way, this would take a deep dive. How
did that ever become a thing? Jeans with holes in them? Like,
who is the first person to do them? Because now
you you've got to pay for the jeans with the
holes in them. And it used to be back in
the day you would get them playing baseball. You slide
hard into second base. You rip your jeans and it's like,
oh hey, mom, I got to get a new pair
of Brittannias from Kmart and it's like, well, you know,

(02:09):
tough balls, that's all we got. And I just want
to who came up with that concept that that style
in that's fashion.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
I don't know, but I mean it annoys me. Now
I have to pay for my crotchless jeans.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well you know, Fred, I mean for you, it's different
because you got to pay by the inch, so so
it costs you. It costs you a little bit more
money than others.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Damn, I wish I had my machine rolled. I just looked.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I want to look for it the old Fred Diggler.
Hey my jeans in yet, sir? Just wear a Scottish kilt.
You know what's the point.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Here's the thing. And I'm glad you bring this up
because I think it should be a dressed just for
a minute. I don't want to belabor it. I would
not wear a kilt. I struggle with those that wear
a kilt, and I always wondered, if you wear a
kilt you are underwear underneath it. You do not, You're
just out there free foreman?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Oh really.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Oh yeah, you don't wear anything under a kilt.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I see. I would push back on that because Rowdy
Roddy Piper back in the day he had wrestling trunks
on under his kilt.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Well, because he was rowdy Roddy Piper and he was.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Piper and you don't want to see him get get
take a pile driver and you see his cash and
prizes come out.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
So I don't know that, but I'm saying, if you're
not mister Piper, you do not wear anything under a kilt.
If anyone is Scottish, call right now.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
If you're listening on the iHeartRadio app in Scotland, yeah, Glasgow,
just you know, go ahead and h and let us know.
Let us know what's Hey, what's underneath the kilt? If
you're listening on the iHeartRadio app in Scotland right now, this.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Is this is a great game you can play in
your weekend show. What's underneath the kilt? By the way,
did you.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Did anybody did Kevin Figures? Did you hear the dismissive
tone in which he use to describe the weekend show
because Fred's above working on the weekends. Yeah, that little
nickel and dime weekend show. You got, hey on your
little weekend show. You could do this like it's some
like it's some part time fun in the sun gig,

(04:15):
Like it's some some adult softball league where there's a
keg at second base if you if you hit a double,
that's pretty disrespectful. Fred, Which, by the way, eleven am
to one pm Pacific time right here on the Blowtorch
AM five seventy LA Sports.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
First of all, I did not dismiss it. I think
it's a wonderful show and it accomplishes its number one goal.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
What about FNA? What about FNA? What about figures in Oslin?
What about that?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I haven't got to that one yet. I've acknowledged that
is perhaps the best show on Fox Sports Radio numerous
times now we have to talk about yours, and the
thing about yours. Your weekend show accomplishes the number one thing,
the most important thing. It is a gift to the
audience and from your first effective and most importantly, it

(05:02):
truly is all about you. That's that's correct, That's what
it's about. That's why the weekend show means everything.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I mean, you want me, even though this is ours show,
to shut up because you want to do this.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's exact. I mean, you nailed it. I mean, I
don't know if anybody's been more right about anything in
their life, like you know, like that's that's definitely, that's definitely.
I mean, who needs therapy? You know, just work with
Fred for for a couple hours to let you walk
around with toothpaste running down your shirt. He'll talk about

(05:36):
it was a designer shirt. He'll talk about, you know,
Scottish people not wearing anything underneath their they're killeds. I'd
also ask you this, how do you feel about sarrongs?
Do you know what a sarrong is?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I do.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's like a Hawaiian kilt.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
But not for men. Sarong is for a woman.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
No, No men wear srong.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Kevin, Kevin, have you ever worn a sarrong?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I can't say that I have. I've worn Hawaiian start
here once or twice.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
But that's not what he's talking about. Now, all right, listen,
if you've ever worn a kilt or a sarong? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
No, I mean I feel like sarongs they're pretty big
and like in Polynesian culture in general, I feel like
men do wear them. I mean it's Commons.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, if you're listening on the tiki torch of the
Hawaiian Islands Fox Sports ninet ninety right now in Honolulu,
go ahead and go ahead and give us a call,
because Fred is dismissing the sarong use in Hawaiian culture,
and I think that's disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I'm trying to figure out if in fact men wear sarongs.
I know they were kilts. I don't think women wear kilts.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Okay, have you seen the movie Forgetting Sarah Marshall where
the guy who plays Russell Brand, he plays Aldie Snow,
he's wearing a sarong. Now, I don't know if that's
a real representation of what you do out there, but
he was doing it in the movie, and I had
I have buddies, you know, you know that that have

(07:02):
worn the wrongs before, like they loved wearing.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Remember I forget what Olympic year it was, but the
guy from Tonga who like it blew up on the
internet because he was so good looking or whatever. He
was wearing us wrong if I remember correctly.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
He was No, it wasn't wrong.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I'm pretty sure it was Fred.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
All right, Kevin, why don't you do a little research
top ten people who have worn the wrongs.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
All right, Well, while I'm doing that research, I'll leave
you with this that traditionally speaking, yes you would not
wear underwear with a kilt, but it sounds like today
it is up to personal preference and many people choose
to wear underwear for comfort purposes.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, I don't listen, I'll be honest with you, man,
I don't get the people who don't wear underwear under
their pants, Like I don't like it that that to
me just feels like you're waiting. There could be a.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Problem, be a problem if you don't will okay, all right, listen,
stop anybody who's worn a kilt or doesn't wear underwear
called it just no.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I just think, you know, depending on how sensitive your
stomach is, there's some people that look, the underwear is
a barrier between you and uh and having to change
your socks, if you know what I mean. And I
feel like if you don't have that barrier there and
you eat something that doesn't sit well, like if you
go out and this is not to take a shot,

(08:26):
because man, I love the food. A shout out to
my guys at Karma and Thousand Oaks. I love the food.
But say you're like, you know what, I'm feeling a
little a little frisky here. Yeah, I'm gonna go get
Indian food for lunch.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Is that your friends and you just shouted out, Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
They're great, Yeah, they're great. It's great, great Indian food.
And I love Indian food. But you know, you decide
what's that and that depends on what you get some
of it. But it's it's great and and a lot
of you know, but there are sometimes where maybe you
have that afternoon cold brew because you need do you know,
wake up a little bit, and next thing, you know,

(09:02):
you don't make it out of the office, and if
you're wearing if you're wearing no no drawers, I mean,
next thing, you know, you know, people are asking who's
spilled the you who on the way to the kitchen,
and I just don't think that that's That's that's the approach.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Tore's we need to do and again we have to
do it again now.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And by the way, if you're Indian and where killed,
feel free to call in as well too. We're opening
up the phone mindes to everybody here.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Sure eightsix six eighty seven two Pip seventy. I just
want to say to you that.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
You all you knew delis a wrongwearers listening on the
iHeart app.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I just want to say this. It is concerning to me,
as someone who's known you and has a great deal
of respect for you and admiration for your your work
ethic and your work, that you are expressing the possible
consequences of your behavior. Example, hear you now discuss the
fact that you are concerned if you eat a certain

(09:55):
type of food with a cold brew and do not
have the appropriate undergard because you could have some sort
of accident. Yeah, that's I don't know, that's not.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Right, Fred. People have sensitive stomachs. Have you been to
the airport recently? You've been You've been to the airport
when people are in the stall, like, oh my god,
it is like some of the stuff you hear, you know,
it's a mind boggling too. I've seen people on multiple
occasions that because one of the one of the things
that came out. You remember cod I don't know if

(10:28):
you remember COVID. Remember when COVID came around, it was
almost like people it was almost like people needed a
refresher on Hey, you know, you should probably wash your
hands more, you know, like that that probably would be
a good idea. And I've seen people go straight from
the stall out the door, and it's like, at no

(10:49):
point in your decision making from cleaning up in there
to getting to where you need to go, you're not
thinking like, hey, you know, maybe I should like you
go to Dodger State. Like I was at a Dodger
game you less than a month ago, and I saw
a guy leave the stall and go straight out the door,
and I'm thinking, dude, it's the third Like you're not

(11:11):
missing anything, you know, crazy coming up, like it's I
don't even think it was the Dodgers half of the
inning to bat and I just I still don't understand that.
But you know, different strokes for different folks.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Talking about that. You want to hear the weirdest thing
I've ever been told about that's happened in an airport bathroom.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Indian guy is wearing sarongs.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
That was not it. Oh no, And this was reported
to me by someone who witnessed it, my son, So
he would not lie. This is a true story. The
names have been changed to protect you, all right, all right,
So he walks into the bathroom. There was a man

(11:55):
standing there. Here are the sinks, right, you can wash
your hand. Yeah, And of course above the sink is
a what it's a mirror. Yeah, the sinks have mirrors.
There's a man standing and he's not washing his hands.
He has his pants pulled down, so he has no

(12:17):
pants on. He is standing in front of the sink
of the mirror. He has a paper towel in his hand,
perhaps more than one. He is wetting the paper towel
and then meticulously washing his manhood his region in front

(12:42):
of the mirror with his pants pulled down, looking at
himself doing it. That's the number one most weird thing
I've ever heard about an alcohol room. I mean and unashamed, unashamed.
It was just commonplace be like used to ended up
right now and doing it. Please don't.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean, I was gonna say, I didn't know he
was watching. If I would have known he was there,
I would have waited till I was in the privacy
of my own home. So I wasn't like, yeah there. Look,
there's also a thing where there's a there's a couple
of habits at the urinal, which I really don't get.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Wait before you see, if you have ever done what
I just described in that story, call.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Now, yes, phone lines, I mean they're filled to the
brim here. It's like Christmas at the studio. Everybody's calling in. Yeah, yeah,
admit to that. Admit to that transgression on the air
if you will, like, we'd love to hear from you, weirdos.
But there's a couple of things, uh that that that
don't make any sense to me, a behavior at the urinal.
One of them is, you know, guy's got his you know,

(13:45):
bare ass hanging out pants stand around his knees. I
don't understand that, Like, I feel like that's not necessary
when you reach a certainty. I don't know, but I've
seen it. You go to Vegas, I walked like I
walked into the bathroom outside the sports book at the
Luxore and some guy in a thirties or forties and
he didn't seem like he was hammered, and just you know,

(14:06):
it was a little odd. So there's that. There's also
the flushing of the urinal midstream. I don't understand that.
I don't know if it's speaking. Yeah, I don't like,
what are we doing here? Do you want it to
look like the fountain at Angel Stadium, like, I don't.
I don't understand. I don't. I don't know what that is.
That's weird. I also don't get because I've stood next
to you at a urinal and then you asked me

(14:26):
to look at your watch. I didn't understand that either.
I don't know why you know what time it was? Yeah,
what's wrong with that?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Requests? We're friends. I just wanted to look down and
see what time was.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Great Nevado, though, I will say that it's a nice watch,
all right, So I grow up, Fred, Fred grew up?
Would you just grow up for once in your career?
Enough enough anything? I'm not doing anything, sorry, Kevin. I
don't know why you're subjected to all this.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Neither do I. The lines are not full, and you're
honest with you, No, they're not. I think the audience
probably having a hard time keeping up with exactly what
you guys are asking for. So call now.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
And by the way, you were all like, if you
were all of those that we described, like, please call in.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Call for help. If you were all of those things,
you need to call for help. It is a crid
for help, all right.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
By the way, this conversation started with you guys asking
about jeans and holes and jeans and when that became
a thing. Oh yeah, apparently it started with a hippie
culture in the sixties and seventies. It was a counterculture thing.
It wanted to stick it to the man and do
something that was different and cool. And then eventually it
just became mainstream. And then the punk artist got into it,
and then mainstream rock and grunge got into it, and

(15:42):
then all of a sudden it just turned it to
mainstream after it. But it all started with the hippies.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Sixties and seventies. Kevin, those were your parents. They were
wearing those jeans.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Potentially, it weren't. I mean, you probably were too right.
You're right there with them. Sadly, are you just passing
out in Lata Palooza with Hendricks? Something that was you?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Right, Fred? Like the holes in his jeans. Fred, Fred's
got a joint the size of a whiffleball bat and
he's listening to Jimmy Hendricks.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh my god. When I said that, I thought, Kevin,
you're oh God, I was there too.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I'm not. Oh no, oh, you know you know what
is kind of amazing nowadays because everything is cyclical, baggy
jeans are back like the bats now, I mean, and
it is. They're even way baggier than when we were
wearing baggy jeans like it is. They are all the
way back. Like I can remember in high school, you know,
you know, early twenties, thinking like, oh, you know people

(16:39):
love to wear baggy jeans. Now you got to. You
got a Miller's outpost or anchor Blue, get a pair
of baggy jeans. And nowadays, if you don't have them, like,
they look at you like you've got five eyes, like
what's wrong with you? And they're real baggy.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
See here's the lesson, And I'm glad you brought this up.
And it's good for all of our listeners, no matter
how old you are. If you're one of our older listeners,
you already know this. This is why you never throw
anything out.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I mean there's somebody that works in TV in this
town that believes in that you never throw anything out.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Who is it?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
For it?

Speaker 1 (17:09):
It doesn't matter, Okay, The point is this, all.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Right, don't don't tell us who it is. Just give
us the initials and their social media handles.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I don't I don't even know if they have social media.
Could that be a hint. Anyway, if you keep it
long enough, it always comes back into fashion. I mean really,
the clothes you buy, example, when you're twenty two years old,
you could be wearing them when you're seventy because they're
gonna come back. It's just when.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
And it forces you to stay in shape. I don't
want to have to spend more money on clothes.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I got to want you just let them out. If
you put on a couple of pounds, you just let
them out. I mean, I'm made a mistake. I'll be
honest with you. Some years ago, I lost about thirty pounds.
I was working a Channel four. I just decided it
was time I lost the weight. I went in and I said,
I am going to get all of these suits altered
because they're too big. And I got them. I had

(18:04):
like five six suits, and you know there was a
bit of room in them. I mean back then we
probably had a barbecue or a party in my pants.
I had a few. You know, it's a little heavier,
there's a little room there.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Please tell me, please tell me we save that drop.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
So anyway, I got them taken in. I thought it
was great. Well, you know, six months later it didn't
quite They didn't quite fit the way they did. And
now if I put them on, I can get like
the whole jacket over my arm. So I put a
few pounds back up. That's why you don't want to
get them altered. So here's and here's another thing. If
you are heavier and you buy clothes you lose weight,

(18:42):
just wear the big clothes. Just wear them, don't get
them altered, because that could be a fashion statement. Right then,
there's no need.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
By the way, when did you ever pick up on
the fact? And I don't know if Kevin did the
same thing that I did, because I just assumed nobody
really cared about my side of the screen. They were
more focused on yours. Sure did you did you ever
pick up on the fact that when I would do
Going Rogan, I literally wore the same suit every single episode.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Everybody knew that one, okay, Like wasn't even a question.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Like I remember my wife telling me, she goes, you're
gonna wear that one again? Like I don't have anything else,
I don't even have a tie. Yes, I'm gonna wear
this one. So isn't that the one you wore to
the funeral. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's that's yes. As a
matter of fact, it is. I'm gonna get my money's worth.
I do radio at three in the morning. What do
you want from me?

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Do you wear the same thing now in the challenge?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I like. Look, man, suits are expensive, all right. You
go to buy a suit and they're they're trying to
up charge you for everything. They're gonna like, you know,
tailoring costs more. Now, Like if you could save a
few bucks, save a few.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Bucks, if you could tailor your own clothes, would you
do it?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh? Yeah, because that is the move though, Like, if
you're gonna get a suit, you buy something that's cheap
and then you go get it custom tailored, Right, that's
what you do. Like these people that pay expense it
like insane amounts of money for suits and then then
go get him tailored. You're doubling up on it when
you can get something that fits just to you that's

(20:18):
significantly cheaper. Just a better way to buy my opinion.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I bought a suit in South Korea during the Olympics.
Really yeah, it was like one hundred bucks. You went
to ek one and they made a custom suit for you,
and I thought, this looks pretty nice for one hundred bucks. Wow,
you can't buy this in the States. And there's a
reason because I brought it back. I hung it up
and three months later it completely disintegrated.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
What do you mean it was gone? What do you mean?
It's like, I don't know if it was it cotton candy,
moth and fasted or what.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
It was just gone. I went in to get it,
there was like two threads.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Really yeah, yeah, So that's It's like it's like a
magic trick, like I just leave it up there for
long enough, it'll disappear.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's kind of like you go out. You kind of
go out and buy it, but you plan on returning it,
so you don't take the tags off. This was kind
of like you go out and buy it, but you'll
wear it once and then it dicentegrates.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
You know what I've heard from the influx of Japanese players,
because I think it's Murakami from the White Sox who's
leading the majors in home runs. He's been unbelievable. But
you've seen the influx of Japanese players in Major League Baseball,
and I think Otani and all of these guys would agree.
One of the things they like about America is that

(21:31):
there's more options for clothes because the sizes are so
much smaller out there that for bigger guys Otani. For
anybody who's never seen Otani up close and personal, monster,
it's like he's huge and so out there it's so
difficult to find stuff that fits their frame that when
they come out here they love it because there's so

(21:53):
many more options out here. You have big and talls,
You've got all of these different so there's more options
out here for them. I just was on a where
that when you bring something from back over on that
side of the world, within six months, it's going to disappear.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Watch it's from South Korea, not from Japan.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, I know, I'm just saying from that side of
the world. Like you, you make it seem like if
you buy clothing in South Korea, it turns into the
family photo from Back to the Future, where unless he
sorts things out, everybody's gonna start disappearing.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
All right, It looks weird if anybody's bought clothing in
South Korea. Call now, there's a reason they don't let
us work together very often.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
That is true figured it out. I've I've now figured
it out. This is the problem.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I don't know if anybody likes the show when we
do it, but I love it. It's fun. It's the show.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
It's fun and it's it's it's trying to find a
way to weave in actual Dodger storylines in the midst
of talking about South Korean wardrobe, Indian food and saran ungs,
which is really the skill set that we've obtained here
on this show.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Fred it is now we didn't talk about big ball
or brand shoes.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
We'll do it in It's lit.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
It's okay, We're gonna do it. It's lit. Yeah, Is
that the litz? Is that the its lit teas?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yes? It is all right?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
All right, then let's go to break. We will do
It's lit next.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
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Speaker 1 (23:38):
Okay, jonas in today for Rodney, and it is time
to get fired up for It's lit. So let's light it.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Up, all right, guys, So as you talked about last segment,
or as we were going to get into last segment
before we went off talking about holes and jeans and
lays and kilts, what what else that I'm ex excuse me,
we're gonna talk about Lnzo Ball obviously started his career
at the Lakers Dings and I get off to a

(24:07):
great start, ended up being traded away in the Anthony
Davis deal to New Orleans, and actually turned himself into
a pretty solid role player before he just had a
series of debilitating foot and knee injuries, and now his
career is essentially hanging on by a thread. And a
lot of people there was rumor and conjecture that the
Big Baller brand shoes that was touted by his father,
LeVar was a big reason why he was dealing with

(24:30):
some many foot and knee issues, and Lonzo didn't necessarily
say that was the exact reason, but in the most
recent episode of the Ball in the Family podcast, he
did acknowledge that he and the Lakers did take issue
with the Big Baller brand shoes. Here's what Lonzo had
to say, But I.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Tried to wear them, though he wared him for a
fair amount of time, and I wore them longer than
I wanted to wear them, but like me and my
pops had got into.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
It so but again to a point.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Really, the Lakers made me stop wearing them, really called
me in the office and played a video. They were like, bro,
look at this, and it was like my shoe was
already turning before, like I hit the ground, type, you
can't wear these no more? Like think about that, like
the gym actually calling us in, said the office, breaking
down footage of the shoe that you.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Already knew though.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
Yeah, but I was already like I didn't want to
wear them in the first place, you know, but I'm
always going to support my pops because I love them.
But like, yeah, that shoe just wasn't from me though.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
That shoe was cardboard and everybody knew it. Oh geez, Kevin,
is that there.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
That might be giving them too much credit?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, mister, hey, there's still uh they're still around, right
the shoes. Yeah, like the Big Baller brand. Like I'm
looking at the website right now. I see ah, I
see T shirts, I see hats, I see hoodies, I
see I see a BBB Mexico shirt, which is awesome.

(25:55):
I don't see any shoes though, trying to figure out
where where the option is to look at the shoes.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
I just found some shoes actually on their website. You
can get some BBB triggers and there's many different color
variants for one hundred and seventy nine dollars. And if
you want some slides, by the way, the slides, which
were very infamous when they first released because people thought
it was a ridiculous price tag. I'll have you know
that those slides only two hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
If you remember, well, those shoes came up first. Anybody
that thought I got to get a pair of those,
you know, you got exactly what you deserved. And weren't
there shoes that were in a clear box for like
eight hundred dollars or something. Oh yeah, okay, the minute
people put those on, they thought they should have been
rushed to an orthopedic surgeon. They they were awful. Didn't

(26:48):
one of his shoes basically dissolve in a game, Kevin?
I remember correctly, the dissolve is strong.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
But they got it made. Maybe they got it made
in South Korea. Fred, with your.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Shoes, that might be the case, but you can't wear
it but for five minutes after it's made then No,
I mean it fell apart during the game. That was
one of the big You know what, anybody that bought
into that stuff, you deserved exactly what you got. Anybody
that got caught up and all that hype, what a

(27:20):
terrible pick he was.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
For the Lakers, and amongst other things, what do you
think gave it away? The fact that Jason Tatum was
available or Aaron Fox baron Fox. What do you know
what was the giveaway there? By the way, how about
what Boston did to Philly in that move. Boston had

(27:42):
the three and they trade or they had the one,
they traded to Philly to pick up the three and
some other draft capital. Philly took Markel Folds. No, that
was ended up with Jason Tatum. Yes, it was.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Absolutely was that your faults was taking one in Lonzo's two.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah. So so Philly only ended up taking Folds because
they traded away assets because they had to get to
number one in fear that Boston was going to take Folds,
and Boston sat at three and took Tatum. Yeah, it's
not great. I'd also say this on the Big Baller
brand product here. Yeah, so if you had to guess

(28:21):
a BBB Classic white shoe?

Speaker 3 (28:23):
All right?

Speaker 2 (28:24):
This is just your run of the mill classic. It's
it's a white shoe with some black BBB logo on
the side and sort of a black on the back
of it as a black kind of a strip on
the top. It looks a little bit like an Adide
issue or Puma, just a plain white. What would you say?
It goes for Fred if you had to guess?

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Now?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
These are new, Yeah, brand new shoe.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
What I thought? What Kevin one hundred and seventy nine bucks.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
For one part of the shoe or one brand of
the shoe. Yes, they have many different types of shoes.
You can still buy.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
These BBB Classic whites are six hundred and ninety five dollars.
And what's amazing is that they're sold out in size ten.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I they only made ten pair.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I don't know, it's all of them the bar. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I'm like, six hundred and ninety five dollars. Look, and
I'm not trying to I'm not gonna pretend like I'm
mister fashion when it comes to shoes. I have a
pair of Pumas, some black and white Pumas that were
thirty nine dollars that instead of getting a new pair,
I went and got them cleaned professionally so I didn't

(29:40):
have to pay another thirty nine dollars to get a
new pair of shoes. So I'm that guy. I just
I can't come to terms with spending six hundred and
ninety five dollars for a pair of black and white shoes.
I'm sorry. I can't offense. No offense to the to
the Big ball Er brand.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
No offense to them. They're garbage. But you know what
I like A nice pair of pumas.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
All are great. And listen, Kevin knows this. You know
what's great about pumas. You could find them in a
in a Macy's, you could find them in a J. C.
Penny And then you could find him in a Ross
Dress for Less, Marshall's places, Marshalls really little little Burlington

(30:25):
coat factory. Man more than coats there.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
More than great coats, they say, you.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Know, back in the day, those were those were a
fashion statement. I'm not kidding them. Pumas were great. I'm
going to Ross Dress for Less right now.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh right, you've never been in a Rosstress for last?

Speaker 1 (30:45):
You know that that's insulting.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Insulting by saying that this is more.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Likely to burn one hundred dollars bill in front of
somebody in a Ross dress for less than go inside.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
It's the sign blue for Ross dress for least.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Boy, what a.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (31:05):
I thought you were gonna go with magenta. Wow, my goodness, boy, Fred,
you've been there? Never mind?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I have been Ross dressed for less, and I've been
to Mervin too. Give me another one. I'll tell if
i've been there.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Okay, total wine?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Oh please, not even an issue?

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Pick and save?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Okay, well.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
You have no all right, all right, Fred, here's another one.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Big lots have been There's one in Burbank, right, Kevin. Yeah,
I've been there. I mean, I know you've been by there,
but all right, just being there, I mean you have
to go in.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, kind of does?

Speaker 1 (31:55):
All right?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
You know what it's like that you can't just you
can't pass it on the way to Bloomingdale's fret. That's
not you know.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
You know what d you guys got all saints in here? No,
never mind, I'm out. You know what's you know what?
My wife is obsessed with what hobby lobby? Oh my god,
every time she goes to hobby lobby, she comes back
with stuff we don't need because it was seventy five
percent off. Yes, Oh, come on, man.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
You guys have a kiln? What a kiln? You can
get that at hobby Lobby.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
There's no room in the house. I mean, she got it.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Do you know what a kiln is? No, it's what
you bake pottery in. So if your wife went down
there and it was seventy five percent off and you
got twenty pounds of clay and you could then she
puts it on that board and gets it all wet
and starts playing it with her hands all over it,
and she molds it into something, puts her initials in it,

(32:54):
puts it in the kiln.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
It's gotten to the point to where I've thought about
paying one of my buddies to dress up as an
intruder to take all her stuff out and be like, honey,
I don't know what happened, and you can't replace that.
There's so many memories attached to it. We should just
start over again because it's bad. But yeah, hobby Lobby's
one of those places, big lots, same.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Thing, man, So why I've been to everything.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
That'd be great, though, if you found a pair of
Big Baller brand shoes and a ross dress for us'd
be awesome.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'll bet you can find a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Well, since we're talking NBA and draft lotteries and all that,
the lottery reform we've been talking about for the past month,
it seems like did officially pass earlier today, the three
two one lottery reform, where the teams with the three
worst records will not have the best odds to get
the top pick in the draft. It passed a border
governor's vote twenty nine to one. The only dissenting vote
was the Memphis Grizzlies, and according to Bobby Marks of ESPN,

(33:50):
the reason why they did it is because they are
currently wrapped up in a trade right now where they
get the most favorable of a twenty twenty seven first
round pick between Cleveland, Minnesota, and Utah. The Jazz cannot
have another a top five pick next year in twenty
twenty seven, So if the Jazz were to have the
worst record of those three, or if they were to
have a pick that fell within the top five, Memphis

(34:10):
would not be able to get an advantageous pick. So
that seems to be the only reason why they voted
against it.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
You know, I never thought about that side of it,
that if they pass this, what does that do to
draft picks and draft slots and whether or not you
lose the pick based on records moving forward? Because some
of these picks are so far in advance to where
now that would impact the value of those Can you
do that? Because when you made the deal, you were

(34:36):
under the interpretation that it was going to look like something,
and now Adam Silver steps into to make all these changes.
So what happens to all those picks? Like I would
be pissed if I were them?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Why? S?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
What?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Whys? That's what happens?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
You're screwed?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Okay? All right?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
You know you could just say that on the air
for DG.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
You don't have to, you know, like sol, I understand,
like what why? Like is that a I don't know?
Is that a player in the draft I'm not familiar with?
So like some guy from Lithuania?

Speaker 1 (35:10):
That right? Yeah, all right?

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I mean I would also say this. I don't know
how and this is probably a longer form conversation. I
don't know how you guys feel about it. I'm tired
of people stepping in like trying to tell these owners
how to run their team. Dude, if you want a
tank because you feel like it's going to improve your
odds moving forward, you should be allowed to do it,

(35:35):
especially if you understand, Hey, that could involve you losing
money at the gate because people aren't gonna want to
show up to watch your crap bag product. If that's
your team, you should be able to do whatever the
hell you want. I mean, Dan Snyder, Donald Sterling, I
get all that. Like you want to go like if
that's that's what we're talking about when it comes to ownership.
But if you want to run your team into the
ground for a season and just wear it when it

(35:57):
comes to ticket sales and concessions and all that, because
you think it's gonna help your product, why not true.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
What if you decide to do it, but you say
the fans just don't care about winning, you do it
for about ten straight years when you say nothing to
see here, everything's fine, come on out and have a
good time at the ballpark.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Then you know what you let you let Fred have
control of it, and you let Fred tell people to
take their shirts off and jump off the Angel sign
out in front of the stadium, so that that way
there can be a change with the ownership works for me.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Oh, speaking of Major League Baseball, I know we have
to break here, but I brought it up. I teased
earlier soft in mission to a certain Fred.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Are you serious what we've talked about on this show.
Come on, get our licks in now. We're never getting
invited back.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
The Major League Baseball had a counterproposal to the mlbpa's
CBA proposal yesterday, and they did introduce a hard cap.
We talked about it with net Khaledy a little bit
earlier in the show. One hundred and seventy one point
two million dollar floor and a two hundred and forty
five point three million dollar cap. That is what Major
League Baseball is proposing. Here is what the players is
said in response. The owners responded today with they demand

(37:03):
for a salary cap system, something generations of players have
fought against. The Last time the owners made such an
explicit push for a cap, over thirty years ago, it
led to the longest work stoppage in MOB history. For generations,
our members have fought against cap systems because they harmed
players at all levels. A road or eliminate contractual guarantees
player against player lead to more work stoppages, not less,

(37:23):
and get worse for players over time. Caps don't lower
ticket prices for fans, eliminate tanking, or insure teams are
run with equal competence. They suffocate competition by offering owners
and all purpose excuse for inaction and mediocrity.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
He well, that didn't go well, No, it.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Didn't, say the least.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
That's that's why I love their thought of you know
what we're gonna do. We're gonna play hardball, literally because
it works so well in ninety four. Like, dude, it's
they're the strongest union for a reason. Do you think
they're gonna cave on the first offer? Like, oh hey, guys,
December first is right around the corner. We got get
this done. Let's just agree to everything now. Come on, man,

(38:03):
it's gonna go down to the wire like all all
deals like this do.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I was surprised that the floor was one hundred and
seventy one million.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
It was way higher than I would have thought.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, me too, given how cheap some of these teams are.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
By the way, there are sixteen teams currently that do
not have a payroll. That's over one hundred and sixty
five million dollars, So more than half the league would
have to basically upregulate their spending to hit that floor.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
And you know what's gonna happen. That's not going to
be the floor. They're gonna up it even more because
that's a negotiating point now, so they'd up it. They
could be around one hundred and eighty five one hundred
and ninety million dollars. You know what a difference for
a lot of the league. But then on the top side,
on the top side, you've got to go a lot higher.

(38:45):
So you could say the top side is four hundred
million dollars. I'm not saying it will be, but I
mean then the players are going fine, I'm telling you
then they'll be just fine. But the top's got to
be like five hundred million dollars. They wouldn't complain about that.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, And it's gonna it's gonna go all the way
to the wire like this is, and this is how
all these deals are. But you know, it's kind of crazy.
So because what did Dodgers' average attendance a night for
a weeknight game is what would you say if you
had to get a ballpark. Figure, we don't need the
Sax Footballpark. Yeah, that probably sounds about right. Thirty eight
forty The Pirates last night had twelve thousand, Like and

(39:23):
that's a beautiful ballpark.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yes, that's it.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
That they've got maybe the best pitcher in baseball. They've
got real talent, they're like real young talent, and they're
drawn twelve thousand, and it was against the Cubs, who
always travel well. Like if you go to a Cubs
Dodger game, the place is filled every time they're in town.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
And they're actually playing half decent for once too, Yes,
like it's a trash product like you had been prete.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
And it's like it's like it's not like you had
a Penguins game to go to, Like it's twelve thousand,
and the weather's nice, and and I just and yet
out here it's like per the usual thirty eight forty
thousand on a weeknight. It's kind of crazy, man.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
And that is what's sliding up the headlines.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Who wants a one hundred dollars gift card to the
strand eight six, six, nine eighty seven, two five seventy
what color number you want?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Jonas four, Fred Caller four, make Am five to seventy.

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(41:00):
both still employed, so thank you, Jonas. These are the best.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I'm telling you, man, some of the most fun I
have doing radio ever is with you guys here, and
I appreciate your help and let me do it. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Colin, thank you, Kevin, thank you. We're back tomorrow at noon.

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