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Fred and Dave Dameshek talk about fake cops, money attacks and more before we delve into a potential Dodgers trade for Tarik Skubal, MLB expansion talk and more in Its Lit.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The fun never ends and we continue. Fred Rogan Dave
damagecheck in today for Rodney five seventy LA Sports Letter.
This hour, Kevin will get us caught up, caught up
with everything on its lit and Kevin, do you want
to provide a tease for it's lit?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
At this time, Kevin maybe on his way back to
the studio, we were just kibbitz and in my little
corner here, Fred. But in the meantime, I'll tell you
something very quickly. What we were just talking about. Who
do you want to be at? Who you want to be?
Do you want to complain about children? And restaurants and
on airplanes? A few holidays ago, more like fifteen holidays ago,

(00:42):
I was returning to Los Angeles and my plane touchdown
and was on the runway, and it was December twenty sixth,
and so the holidays were essentially over, and everybody was
kind of in that mood and ready to get off
the plane. And they said, well, we have to sit
here on the runway for another fifteen minutes before we
can pull it into the into the gay. When everybody's

(01:03):
on their feet anxious, can we get home already? It's enough?
And I had a one year old daughter in my arm.
My one year old, by the way, not a one
year old. My one year old daughter in my arm.
And she was flailing as little children do. And she
with her back of her hand grazed the woman in
front of us. She's probably thirty five year old woman,

(01:24):
red hair, and she whipped around me by grazed, lightly struck.
Not how hard could a one year old hit you
at full force?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Barely? Gret all right, didn't hit you in the mouth
and split your lip like the baby? Sir?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, there was no. I didn't know you lost a
fight to a monkey. But now I want to hear
that story next. But so the woman, upon feeling the
grays of an infant, whipped around and said, don't you
touch me? And I said, excuse me, what did you
just say? And she said, don't you let that baby
touch me? And I said, well, forgive me, ma'am. And

(02:02):
the plane is, you know, in that in between stage,
and so for several rows in either direction, everybody can
hear our voices, and the woman don't you let that
baby touch me? I said, well, forgive me. No better yet,
and I shouted at my daughter and I said, you
apologize to this woman for touching her. And of course

(02:23):
she was one and so she didn't have that ability.
And I said, ma'am, I'm so sorry. Please, And because
of the bright red hair, I said, next time, I
promise you she will be in a cage underneath the
plane flying along with the other pets. Don't worry about it.
Next time, by the way, do me a favor and
say hello to the one hundred and one Dalmatians for me.
And the plane was wild because they saw who the

(02:47):
villain was in this situation. It wasn't me, It wasn't
it wasn't the baby.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
It was this.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
It was this grown woman, upset, outsized, anger about being touched.
How dare a baby have the tamar to put it
its little pause on me? And uh, and the whole
airplane was was delighted as I roasted her for about
ten minutes and then the plane went silent, and and uh,

(03:13):
my wife then, after a couple of beats of just
complete silence and it was all dying down, said you know,
we are looking for a babysitter, and then everybody laughed.
I didn't appreciate that, Fred, because I thought I got
off some decent lines. I think I got off a
couple of B B pluses and then she stole the show,
which I didn't care for.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
She did not do that, Yeah she did, and that line.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah it was. It was pretty good. And then and
then we had to get divorced because I'm not gonna
get shown up like that. I'm not. I'm not gonna
I'm not. I'm not gonna stand for that. Fred. Now
for the story about a monkey attacking you?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, no, no, no, no, I want to go back.
Did you really say the things you said?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I did? I did? Was that wrong? Somebody needs to
be called out. If you're gonna act like a villain,
then I'm gonna let you know you're acting.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Like a I know. And what did your wife say
to that?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
She was initially saying, you know, kind of tugging on me,
like come on, don't do this, and I said, listen,
we're in the right here. What kind of behavior is
that from a grown up?

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Wow? I don't know if my wife would have been
quite as understanding if I would have said something like that.
I mean, that was a great line you delivered it,
and it was a spot on from what you said.
I think I'd have got the sit down line and
just leave it alone.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I was being encouraged by our fellow passengers because amidst
all this, there were a couple of moments where people
nearby said, by the way, she was an angel. This
entire four and a half hour flight, I had no
people were letting us know, whispering sort of passive aggressively
loudly enough. So did the villain heard it?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
That?

Speaker 2 (04:51):
We were cool with it? Who's in the wrong here,
you lady with the red hair?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Did the lady and how did the lady in the
red hair react to all of this?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
She slinked off or slunked off? I don't know, I'm
not I don't know what the right word. What is
the past tense of slink?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Slunk?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Slunk? Well, that's what she did. She slunked off alone
into the night as she deserved.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
What else you looked like? I mean, could you tell
she had some issues?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Or That's all I needed to see fred the rage
in her eyes, That's a that told the entire tale.
And I think I would like to believe that maybe
she learned a lesson that night and she decided to
wake up the next morning a new soul.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, she didn't. She's bitter as hell.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I would like to think she went to the Pacific
at dawn nude and went in and came out born
and new baptized with a better attitude.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah. Well, given what you said, I don't think anybody
wants to see her nude.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Seriously, she was ugly on the inside. That's what matters, Fred, That's.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
All that matters anywhere. The monkey hit me in a mine.
I've told the story. I'm doing a talk show with
ourthell Neville. It'll live in the anals of television history.
It was that awful. And we had like an animal segment,
and you know how Jack Hannon would come out the
big right now. We couldn't afford that. We had like
the La Animal Conservatory because our show was cheap and
we had no money, and we used to pay the

(06:18):
audience because nobody would show up. And so they brought
the monkey out, the monkeys in a diaper, and it's like, oh, cute,
hold the monkey, and I'm holding the monkey and the
monkey's a baby and it's just great, and he want
you to feed the monkey, and I'm giving the monkey
the bottle and I'm thinking this is really cool. In
my mind. Look at this, this little monkey is here
and I'm feeding the monkey, and you know I'm saying

(06:39):
something else. I'm Johnny Carson right, except this damn And
I went, oh god, my lip is split, it is bleeding.
The monkey is looking at me, and I'm like, what
is this with this monkey? The monkey just backhanded me.
Just let me have it, and I'll tell you this.

(07:00):
And if you don't know, now you do. Baby monkeys
are pretty strong. I'm just gonna tell you.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
If you don't have to defend yourself, you don't have
to defend your Your dignity is a man. A monkey
beat you up, so be it. DiCaprio got taken down
by a grizzly bear in that one movie. A monkey
got the better of you, So what monkey?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, the monkey got me. Not like your daughter gently
grazing the cheek of the redheaded woman Corella Deville who
was seated in front of you. No, this monkey just
clocked me.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Wow, good for you. I've never even been beaten up
by another person, let alone a different creature.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
We don't have time for me to tell you all
the animal stories. We just don't have time because I
have a problem with animals, I've never wanted to. I
think I'm kind to animals, but animals don't like me.
The other monkey story, I'll do this, and I'm Kevin'll
roll his eyes. But you have to hear the other
monkey story where a guy threw a live monkey at

(07:59):
me and I caught it. You wouldn't take the monkey
back for me unless I paid them twenty dollars.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, wait a second, Wait a second, this was a
planned monkey toss.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
No. So anyway, we're in Morocco and over here at
like a big street fair by the way, it's two
hundred degrees, it's humid, people smell, it's you know. You go, oh,
go to the street fair in Morocco. Don't do that.
I am telling you now, if you go to Morocco,
don't think I should go to the street fair. It's
not that cool. But anyway, we go and we're walking
around and you can see in the distance there's a

(08:33):
guy with monkeys and snakes, and I'm going, oh, look,
the monkey's doing tricks. This is really cool.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Now you're Indiana Jones, right, so you're doing Raided as
the Lost Dark for us, you.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Know, and get I wander, you know, I just wander around.
I get lost, I don't know where I'm at, and
they can see I'm heading over to watch the monkey,
and the monkey's doing flips and the monkeys like dancing,
and people are standing around the monkey, and a guy's
like playing a musical instrument and the monkey's doing things,
and I'm going, this is pretty cool. I want to
go see what's going on. So they tell me, whatever

(09:04):
you do, don't get too close to the monkey. I said,
why not? They said, because if you get too close,
what's gonna happen is the guy who's with the monkey's
gonna pick it up and throw the monkey at it.
The rat right, and you're gonna catch the monkey, and
he's not gonna take it back unless you give him
twenty bucks. Well, I said, oh, I'm not gonna get

(09:24):
that close. I mean, that's ridiculous. You gotta get pretty close.
So I keep wandering up and I look behind me,
and all the people that I'm with now seem a
distance away from me. So I separated myself from the pack.
So I get a little closer. I get a little closer, Dave,
I gotta be fifteen twenty feet, So I mean.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
That's decent, decent birth right.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Okay, So now the monkey is doing the monkey things
and I'm sitting there and I see the guy walk
up to the monkey, and I'm like, okay, well, what's
the monkey gonna do? Now? What trick is he going
to do? Stand in the guy's head spin plates. So
the guy walks up to the monkey and he looks
at me, and I'm frozen because I'm just watching, and

(10:10):
he smiles. So I just nod my head. I mean,
what am I gonna do. I'm gonna foreign country. I'm
gonna scowl at the guy. So the guy smiles. He
takes a step toward me, so there's still this good distance.
Then he starts running right for me. Now, now I
don't know what to do with a monkey to right.

(10:33):
He's got the monkey and he's running right at me.
So for that one moment where you're frozen and you
make a decision, you know, it's like, what's it called
fight or flea or whatever?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's right right or flight?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Right? Yeah, fight or flight. I'm thinking, oh God, here
he comes. So I go to take a step. I
go to take a step, but it's too late. The
guy's about eight feet from me. Now, and he just
throws the monkey at me. I catch a monkey. Now,
I've got the monkey in my hand, and let me

(11:06):
tell you what a monkey in Morocco that has been
in the sun. And I'm sure the monkey is a
nice place to sleep at night, but during the day
it is hot. And that monkey did not smell good.
That monkey was I was like.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Oh, do you think that that's a note that I
wouldn't have figured it out on my own. I assumed
that the monkey might be odorless.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Of course not no, but I didn't realize. I don't know,
I don't have so anyway, Now I've got me the
monkey's probably ten pounds. Okay, all right, but still it's like,
this monkey's on me now. And the guy walks up,
and I'm a little freaked out. I have to tell
you the truth because I've never caught a monkey that's
been thrown at me before. And a guy walks up

(11:47):
and I go to take the monkey and give it
back to the guy. And a guy sticks out his hand.
I shake his hand. I thought, well, that's part of
the trick, you shake. No, he wanted money. Then I
remembered they told me, do not give that guy money.
So then I told the guy, no, I won't pay you.
So now we had a standoff.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
The guys we're gonna start a new life together, me
and this monkey.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Right. So now we're in a standoff, and the guy's
you know, give me the money. I kept going no, no,
So I see another guy swinging around. Now he's coming
around the corner, but I'm not moving because I can't
go anywhere because I'm trapped with the monkey. The guy
swings around, he comes behind me, and the next thing
I know, he put a snake around my neck.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Oh no, oh, no too.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Now I'm standing there with a monkey and a snake,
and that guy says, give me twenty dollars.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
And do we know? Like I would be nervous in
that in that couple of seconds, Like I don't know
if monkeys and snakes are natural enemies. What if they
start to fight in your arm, betwixt your arms and
around your neck.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
That's a fair question. I at that point was not thinking, No.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
You're there, right, you're the play, You're the arena for
this fight.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Glady eats. It would have been bad, but I couldn't
think that way because I was so dis gusted by
the slime of the snake that was around my neck,
and that guy wanted twenty dollars, right, So now I
got a monkey and a snake, and if I don't pay,
they're not taking either one of them. So somehow I'm

(13:14):
able to go into my wallet. I just took out
whatever money I had and gave it to them. And
it wasn't like two dollars. They looked at the money,
they looked at me. They took the monkey and the snake,
and now I was just thrown. You know, I was
in a daze. I walk back to the group of
people I'm with and they go, we told you not

(13:36):
to get that clothes. I'm standing there, obviously struggling, completely
freaked and grossed out by the whole event. We told
you not to get that close. That was my monkey story.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I love it, and I listen. I don't want to
backseat drive. And you know, I you know, I know
when you're on the game show, if you're on Jeopardy,
the pressure is great, or it's easier to sit in
TV and watch it on TV. But you did have
the warning they're gonna throw the monkey to you and
then you're gonna have to catch it. In that moment.

(14:10):
What I what I might have thought about is as
soon as you catch the monkey, turn and sprint away
from the guy because he doesn't want you taking his monkey.
Now you've taught him a lesson. Oh yeah, you want
to throw monkeys at me? Guess what? Now I'm keeping
the monkey. I bid you good day, sir in Morocco,
and you run to your what I'm sure was a
five star hotel. They aren't gonna give him access. Now

(14:33):
it's you and the monkey for the rest of the time,
and you don't need Dave Damashek sitting in here. You
got the monkey in the seat right now, it's the snake.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
It's not a bad train of thought. I can see
why your mind would go there. The reason that's a
bit flawed, and I get a very good offering. The
reason it's a bit flawed is because the monkey had
such a stench that I don't think I could have
run three feet with the monkey without passing out. If

(15:08):
we're just being.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Honest, Indiana Jones pulled the gun on the guy who
had the big sword when the guy was running at
you with a monkey. That should have been your act.
You should have gone for your six shooter Fred.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, what I should do is what they told me,
don't go over there. And that's a lesson. I think
all you kids listening today should keep that in mind.
If somebody says don't go near the monkey, don't go
near the monkey.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
If nothing else comes out of this three hours, thank
goodness for that powerhouse bit of advice. If somebody throws
a monkey at you, don't catch it right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
And there's this. If you bring a one year old
child on a plane who inadvertently brushes a redheaded woman
roast her to within inches of her life in front
of the whole.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Plane, how else is she gonna learn? Right?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
You were just doing a you know what. That's right.
You were just doing a public service.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
That's it. I've admonished people at the farmers market on
Third and Fairfax. I once saw a guy eating a
sandwich in his big suv and he opened up the
car door upon completion. Well, he didn't completely finish the sandwich,
which caught my eye. He had some garbage, food elements
still on the plate, on his paper plate. He opens

(16:25):
up his driver's side door, drops the garbage on the thing.
I said, hey, you know, another grown ups gonna have
to come and pick that up. Now, you understand, because
you just threw that. I don't like the people who
spit their gum and a urinal, you understand. Somebody else
now has to put his hands into that urinal next
to that gross pink thing and have to pull your

(16:45):
gum out. Wait, wait, wait, what are you a prince?
Who do you think you are to drop your garbage
in the parking lot? And they and it went from there,
and I got off a couple of real good zingers
that I don't want to share here because they were
pretty color. I was making fun of him for being
heavy set and alone. I told him I had to
go catch up with my family and he could go

(17:08):
catch up with the rest of the swine something to
that effect. It was effective. It hurt his feelings, which
was my goal.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Let me ask you a question. Yeah, I mean there's
a good story.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I'm a man of peace. Yeah you feel that. Fred
doesn't make me happy to do this, but somebody's got
to step up. Somebody's got to clean up society.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
As a man of peace who steps up and cleans
up society.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
That's right, that's what I am. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
In the process of cleaning up society. Have you ever
found yourself in a situation where you thought I shouldn't
have said that.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Listen, sometimes, when you the volume of words issued from
this pie hole, obviously some of them, some percentage of
them are going to cross the line. I'm not going
to live life in the rear view mirror regretting those decisions. Fred.
The thing that's wild is that I've I've never been
in a fight. You would think that somebody who behaves

(18:02):
this way someone brave enough to stick his neck out
to try to clean up society for the good ones
among us, you, me, and millions and millions of other
people getting sullied by these nair do wells. I'm not
going to stand for it, but I've never I think
deep down people understand that I'm a man of justice,
and that's why they don't take me to task or
into the squared circle to teach me a lesson with

(18:23):
their fists.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Have you ever have you ever committed a citizen's arrest
is a man of peace citizens arrest.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I'm not that pretentious. I do it. I do it
as a human being, Fred, That's all I think that
I'm not trying to flash a badge at you. By
the way, that just reminded me. A few weeks ago.
I was coming over to five p seventy to meet
Rodney Pete, and I was getting onto my UH. I
was about to get off the street road onto the
ramp to get onto the one oh one heading south,

(18:55):
And as I did that, I noticed on the other
side of the street a pr writing a ticket to
somebody had pulled somebody over. And I was driving behind
the car in front of me was start and stop
because they were on their cell phone the whole time.
You could see it, and they were doing that weird
little swerve as though they're tricking anybody when they can't
even stay between the lines and all of that, and

(19:16):
so I couldn't help it. I got a little up
on his tail I was in a hurry, so I
was a little on his tailgate, and like I say,
there's the cop over there. And suddenly, right before the ramp,
the guy slams his brakes on. His car, door flies open,
and he says, stop tailgating me, U mf or and
he holds a badge up to me. And now he

(19:39):
sees the cop across the road and he goes. That
guy's tailgating me, and I yelled to the cop, what's
this guy flashing a badge? Clearly he's not a police
what is that badge? And the cop can hear, and
he's kind of with his hands or whatever. And by
the time I look back, the guy's already in his
car and he is speeding up on to the on

(19:59):
ramp and he's on the one oh one, and I
jump into my car and I start following him, and
I have my cell phone out. I'm taking pictures of
his license plate and he knows I'm doing that. So
now he's slamming his brakes on the one on one,
so I ram into him and then hitting the gas
to pull away from me. Then I saw some cops
and I said, I don't want to be a pain
in the ass. Should I let you guys know about this?

(20:22):
I have the visual proof of this guy flashing a badge.
Do you want to know that? And they said absolutely
nothing gives us a worse name than people who claim
to be police who are not. How say you, Fred
is a human being. I'm just I don't want to
make that kind of trouble. I don't want to go
to Johnny Law to settle the hash. I want to
do it face to face. That's why I do it

(20:42):
as another citizen. I don't need to involve Johnny Law.
I'll say you.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Well, as you were telling me the story, as you
were tailgating the person, he was stopping, speeding forward, stopping,
you were taking pictures of his license plate.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
What I thought you were going to try was a
pit maneuver and just take them out. That's what I
thought you were going with. Taking the pictures is one
thing I thought. I am taking this into my own hands,
and you know what, I'm just gonna one more time.
I get a little to the side stop WAMO.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I had been a Fi movie bad guy things installed
into my tires. That the thing that the razors that
come out and spin and chop up your tires, That
maybe I need to get that installed into my car
so I can do that to the nayor do Wells
on the road.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I think I would have told the cops. I think
that's the call.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
They said they wanted it, and I just I didn't.
I just thought, Man, what am I gonna do ruin
this guy's life over this?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah? You should have you think so Uh, it's something.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
It is a bad look running. I mean, I wouldn't
want to be a cop and hear stories about other
people pretending to be cops.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, they got enough problems just being cops.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
You see what you see the work I'm doing, Fred,
I can't. I can't cure every ill in a week
or a month or even a year. But I'm doing
what I can.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Who would ask you? Who would expect that of you?
It's too much. You do what you can when you can.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
The man in the mirror, that's too Fred. The man
in the mirror.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
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(22:26):
now we'll do everything in its slid. Is Kevin available? Nope?
I am not? Fred? Oh perfect? Okay, Well, I hope
you will be there when we come back.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
All right, Dave Damashek and Today for Rodney. I think
Kevin is fired up here, Dave ready to go. He's
gonna tell us what's going on with it, slit, Let's go, keV.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
So Fred, you and Rodney debated a few times the past,
I'd say a few months about the future of Trek Scooble,
and I think I was on rodney side and talking
about the fact that Detroit made the postseason last year
on the brink of a limiting Seattle. I know he's
a lame duck coming into this season, but you don't
trade him last offseason. You try to go for it
one more time to see if you can make another
deep playoff run and compete for a championship. And you'll

(23:19):
take that title if that means you keep him on
the roster even if you.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Lose him in free agency.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Well, now the Tigers are ten and a half games
out of first place. Their offense sucks, their pitchers are hurt,
including Schooble, and now the rumors are starting to swell
as to whether or not they should just cut their
losses now, trade them away, get some ad sets because
you're not gonna sign him in the offseason anyway. So
Jim Bowden, former general manager of the major leagues joined
us on the show here a few weeks ago. Also
writes for The Athletic and he says you should not

(23:45):
rule out the Dodgers When talking about a pursuit for
Tark schoobl before the trade deadline, he said, either Justin
Robleski or immachewing off of the major league roster, including
one or a couple of their top outfield prospects like
Zayer Hope, Jose de Paula, or at Ward oak In Tarot.
So he believes the Dodgers obviously have the ammunition in
the minor leagues to be able to pull off this trade,

(24:06):
and they seem to be one of the favorites to
be able to do that should Detroit decides to cut
base cut bait with Trek Scuobel here before the deadline.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Couple of things Detroit stupid. They should have moved them
forward the season started. Ah, well, we have a chance
to win. Well, you know, and even if you'd won,
you're gonna lose them anyway. You have to build for
sustained success. You can't just go this is our year.
We got to hold onto this guy. Well, that's why
you're a loser. You have to create a system where
every year you're in the conversation. To do that, you

(24:35):
have to have a stockpile of players that can compete.
To do that, you trade a guy like Trek Scooball
to start, just as the Ardie Moreno down in an
Orange County. So, if in fact Schooble was available, yes,
the Dodgers should make that move. My question is and

(24:57):
the Dodgers could offer an awful lot. Well, my question
is this, if you're the Tigers and you make that
trade with the Dodgers, are the other teams gonna vilify
you because you've just got arguably the best pitcher in baseball.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
If the Dodgers get him. You mean on the receiving end, yes,
are all the other would be contenders saying why are
you handing them more? They already have all the advantages.
That's your I think. I think the other side of
that coin probably makes it more appealing to give him
to the Dodgers. They already have everything going for him.

(25:37):
You know, if another team that is adjacent spiritually and
financially to the Tigers gets him, then and they win
the title because of Scooball, that's gonna hurt worse if
he goes to the Dodgers. Then you can just write
it off his mercenary stuff, which is you can kind
of you can kind of stiff arm the entire Dodgers

(25:58):
generation if you really want to be a cynic about
it and say they just bought a bunch of guys
from different teams. This would be another act in that direction.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
I don't know where these rumors came from, but over
the last few days there's been talked about another potential
blockbuster trade between the Lakers and the Dallas Mavericks. In
this time, the Lakers would acquire Kyrie Irving, who missed
the entire portion of this past season with a significant
ACL injury, and the people will cite the fact that
he played so well next to Luka Donjik. They made
it all the way to the NBA Finals before losing

(26:31):
to the Boston Celtics. Jake Fischer's mccovered the NBA for
a long period of time, so we did some sleuthing
with his sources. He says his understanding is they want
to team up Luka Donjik with someone who's on his
timeline at twenty seven years old and as great as
his peering was with Kyrie back in Dallas, the fit
between he and Kyrie will be very redundant considering the
fact they want to keep Austin Reeves. The factor here

(26:52):
would be, why would we trade for Kyrie Irving, who's older,
injury prone, when we have a guy in Austin Reeves who,
at this point in time, at the very least, would
measure whatever production Kyrie Irving is gonna give you. So
we'd rather have Austin Reeves and Bukadancik and somebody else
that compliments them as opposed to another ball dominant guard
that can score a lot of points. So, as of
right now, it does not seem like a Kyrie Irving

(27:14):
pursuit is something the Lakers would actually seriously consider.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Okay, So if the change in ownership had not occurred,
you hear something like this and you go, yeah, they
could absolutely do that. Well, sure, they could crisis Kyrie Irving.
Let's get him. Oh this will be great, we'll put
them back together again. I don't see that happening anymore.
That is not a blueprint for sustained success. That is

(27:39):
a blueprint for an injured player to come here and
possibly get injured again at a point in his career
where he is older. It's a rumor, but I just
think that would be a terrible move.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Dave old flat earther hates Jewish people. What's the appeal
here exactly of chasing Kyrie Irving? Who is volatile, To
put it nicely, he does not last long in most
basketball situations. That seems loco to me. But it does
lead you to the conversation that we started to have

(28:15):
a couple hours ago about Lebron. If you let Lebron go,
you're gonna be able to get one or two very
nice pieces. What I would be chasing is Giannis because
if you're trying to win, now, that's the piece to
go get, not this foolishness.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, if you're gonna get an older guy that could
get injured, getness, not Kyrie Irving.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, don't duplicate what you already have at minimum.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, Well, that will make absolutely no sense. But as
Fred says, that kind of falls right in line with
the Lakers have been doing the past decade. Anyway, So Fred,
who did ask Bob Nightingale about this earlier, But I
want to throw it out there just for a little
bit more clarification the fact that there was a giant
sacramental pitch headed by the mayor of the state, by
the mayor of Sacramento yesterday, and they had a bunch
of other people. The minority owner for the Sacramento Kings

(29:02):
was part of this, Dusty Baker, former major league player,
Derek Lee, Sacramento. Guys, all people who are behind this
giant campaign to try to get Major League Baseball to
expand to the city of Sacramento. But Fred, you are
not as gung hole on this as they are because
you say it has a zero shot of happening.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Well, it's a loser. They're not even selling out now
with the A's. They're not selling out twenty two thousand seats.
With the age that's major league baseball. Why would you
think they'd be able to sell out baseball major League Baseball.
Maybe they don't realize that a major league stadium for
baseball seats more people than basketball, than hockey, and of

(29:44):
course fewer than the NFL. Yet baseball plays eighty one times.
Do you really think Sacramento is going to sell enough
seats eighty one times and they'll be terrible? Well, let's
throw that into the mix and're not gonna be very
good for a long time. Do you really think they
could support baseball? Baseball needs to go to Nashville if

(30:09):
you're gonna go somewhere.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
That's an interesting idea, the one that I'm interested in.
Since you touched on them, I'll bring it up. What's
gonna be with the Athletics in Vegas? The assumption that
the same foot traffic that the Raiders get as that
national brand with national appeal in a more popular sport,
and as you say, eight games versus eighty one games,
I think a lot of people in Vegas are betting

(30:33):
on the ownership of the A's on foot traffic of visitors,
just saying on a Thursday, yeah, let's go check them out.
Let's go see him play the Royals tonight. And I
don't know that that that carries over the way it
does with football. I don't think you make destination trips
to Vegas because the Athletics are going to be in
town hosting your favorite baseball team.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Now, well, here's the thing. If you go to Vegas,
all right, you and I go to Vegas. We're up there.
We do what we're gonna do. Oh my God, the
A's are here. Let's go tonight. Let's catch that game.
That will happen. I think that will happen. People will
go to the baseball game when they're in town. Oh
there's a game, the White Sox are here, whoever's here,
let's go. Yes eighty one times.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
No, that's the distinction. Yes, you will spend. Let's do it.
Let's take our big trip. We're huge football fans. Let's
go see our favorite team play in Vegas. We enjoy
the weekend there and everything else. I just don't think
that that is the same vibe that you get from
a midweek series, you know, in Vegas. I just think
that there is an assumption that that will work the

(31:37):
same as it has in the NFL, and I think
you're hoping for too much.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Look, hockey's worked there. Hockey has worked. They don't play
that many games and they don't sell that many tickets.
So I think the NBA will work in Vegas. You
don't play that many games or sell that many tickets.
The market has shown it can support that. I don't
think the market can support Major League Baseball. I think

(32:04):
it'll be a very tough sell.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
So before we check out here the other proposed teams
cities are talking about potentially expanding to you mentioned Nashville there, Fred,
I've had Charlotte, North Carolina, Portland, Oregon, and Salt Lake City.
Any of those do anything for you.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Salt Lake's interesting, they might, they would do a better
job than Portland. I don't think Portland can do it now.
Charlotte is another interesting story. There's a decent population in Charlotte.
They certainly love their hockey team and they like their

(32:41):
football team. I don't know. Again, it's too many games.
You're not filling up a twenty six thousand seed arena.
You're looking for forty five thousand people. Forty thousand people,
and the one thing you don't want to do is
going to win a city, an expansion city, and here's
the first game, and you know the half the seats

(33:01):
are empty. You just don't want that. I don't know
if they can support that. Salt Lake would be interesting,
and I think Nashville definitely could.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I think, as you say, Fred, you know, in the
thirty thousand foot view, some teams, some sports will work
in some tea in some cities, some regions of the
country where they won't work. In others. I have been
on a twenty plus year campaign. This forgive me Ducks fans.
This is a hot take in southern California. We don't
need two hockey teams here. We have the Kings. Let's

(33:31):
move the Ducks up to Portland. You want to sort
of juice up some rivalries, those Northwest rivalries Vancouver and
and the San Jose. And how you start that in Utah?
Now we're talking. Now we're cooking with gas if you
put them up there. Seattle has its team Portland. All

(33:51):
the rivalries are natural.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
You better bite your tongue.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Come on, how many times, Fred you are the LA
Sports Life? How many times I've been here for twenty
five years? No one, not one time, has anyone ever
come up to me and said, how about those ducks?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Man?

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Have you had that experience?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
And home is where here?

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I'm talking southern California, No, San Fernando Valley. Uh listen,
I've been here all over the place for twenty five years.
No one ever, anywhere has ever come up to me
and said, how about them ducks? Man?

Speaker 1 (34:25):
You've lived in Orange County?

Speaker 2 (34:26):
No?

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Okay, Well then what do you expect? No one here
is going to come up to you and say, how
about them Ducks?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
All right, does that happen to you?

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Fred in Orange County?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
How about them Ducks? They have twenty thousand fans and
that's who fills that arena, and that's who listens to
them on the radio and on TV when they're on
the road. And that's the extent of their fan base.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
That is the argument about all hockey except in Canada
or the East Coast. Yeah, that is a argument.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Other hockey towns have won the Stanley Cup and hundreds
of thousands, if not a million, people show up to
the parade. Only the Ducks had to bribe their fans
with wieners and free cokes and an appearance by the governator.
That's how they lured people down to their celebration.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Maybe the Rams should have tried that.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I got great news for you real quick. My first prediction.
I made it on my show Football America. You ready,
Super Bowl sixty one. Here we go, Sofi Stadium. You know,
the Rams are the only team to ever play a
home game for the Super Bowl. Guess what this time?
Time's two Rams v. Chargers super Bowl sixty one. Once
upon a time in Hollywood or Anglewood. Get ready Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Love it. There it is.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
That's what's lighting up the headlines.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Love it. Okay, we'll come back and wrap it up. Hey, Damashek,
thanks for doing this great fun today. We got to
do it more often.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Thank you, Fred a great time.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yes all right, thank you to the folks in the studio.
Have a terrific weekend and we're back Monday.

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