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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Jonas knocks in
today for Rodney on seventy LA Sports Doctors in Kansas
City today. Uh many years ago, the Angels were playing
the Royals. The Royals beat the Angels. They had won
the American League West. That was a time where you
could run out onto the field right after the game
so you could interview somebody. The manager of the Royals
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was Dick Houser, and he ran me over. I just
want them to what do you mean it just ran
me over.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I sprinting off the field and just bowled you over.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well, back in the day, you could run right up
to the mound. You know, there was a media on
the field. You charged to the mound where they were celebrating.
I got a little too close.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
He took me out, like fell down and everything O me.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, I mean he ran me over.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Did he stop to help you and apologize or not?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
He didn't give a crap. No, he was there to celebrate.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I've never been to Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Not a bad city.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, I've heard. I've heard good. I've heard it's it's
a fun place to go. Good food. They take their
barbecue very very seriously. There's like a part of the town.
I want to say it's the Lights District or something
like that. That's basically whenever they show when there's a
when the Royals are winning a World Series, when the
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Chiefs are you know, in the playoffs and they're not
at home, everybody goes to I think it's the Lights
District or someplace downtown and it's a big scene. That's
where all that stuff happens. But I've heard good things
about it, you know, all.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Right, would you rather go to Kansas City, Missouri or
Kansas City, Kansas.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
What's the difference the big difference other than the obvious.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
One is on the Kansas side and one is on
the Missouri side.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
That was kind of the detail that led me to
follow up with other than the obvious, Like that was
the other than the obvious detail. So I'm just wondering, like,
what is a perk in Kansas City, Missouri that Kansas City,
Kansas does not have? Like, like what would be one
of those perks you know right now because I had
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now I've been to or I have ties to Kansas
in this sense. Uh, the first flight my son was
ever on, the flight got diverted to Wichita because some
lady had a stroke in the back of the plane
and they ran out of oxygen and so they had
to make an emergency landing to restock up the oxygen
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to make the flight the rest of the way to Chicago.
So that was really my one time in Kansas. And
then my brother played football at NAIA Ottawa Ottawa.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
University, which is in Kansas, in Canada, in Kansas in Canada, Ottawa, Ottawa, Kansas,
Ottawa University. What would they call Why would they call
a place in Kansas.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I just that's the name of the university. I don't
know if that's if it's that's the town, that it's Ottawa, Kansas,
but I know it's Ottawa University was in Kansas he
played for.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Okay, that wasn't even real. Who knows where he went
to school.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Okay, let me look this up then, and we're gonna
we're gonna start busting balls here on this show.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Also, I do want to say this, Kansas City, Missouri
and Kansas City, Kansas are two distinct cities that share
the same name. They're located in different states. So here
we go. Kansas City, Missouri is what it is, larger
and more urban than Kansas City, Kansas, which is a
smaller suburb. Both cities are sent Oh, it says the
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same thing over and over. So that's it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
So one's more urban, Yeah, and larger. Let's usually how
that goes.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
No, that's true. Okay, you to tell me about Ottawa
University and now.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, I did do a I did do a little
bit of a deep dive here on Ottawa University. It
is located in Ottawa, Kansas, Okay, And that'll wrap up
our coverage of Ottawa, Kansas and Ottawa Universe.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
That's it. That's all you're gonna tell me.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
That's all I got. I mean, I just I know
what I heard, and I.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Don't get that. I think there's something wrong with that.
Why would you call a place in Kansas Ottawa when
Ottawa is in Canada.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Well, apparently because it was founded in eighteen sixty five
and affiliated with the Ottawa tribe of Oklahoma. So there
was a Native American tribe called the Ottawans I'm guessing
that word out in that region and they named it
in honor of them.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So this is why Ottawa, Canada was named for the
same reason.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Fred, Why do you have to be so dismissive. What
are you gonna what are you gonna say next? In
the next segment, you want the commanders to bring back
the old name, like, come on, man.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Now, now, I want to know the history of Ottawa,
Canada because it doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, which was their first?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Who can?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
That's the questions and that will answer everything, Kevin once
and they figure that out.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And then what was around first? Kansas City, Missouri or
Kansas City, Kansas between the two.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, Yugoslavia references. We got Ottawa in this country, Ottawa
in that country. This is geography class going on to correct.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'm just curious. Does no one else wonder these things anywhere?
Because I think it's a valid point.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Ottawa was chosen. The name Ottawa was chosen in eighteen
fifty five. This is Ottawa, Canada, by the way, in
reference to the Ottawa River, which is derived from another
word that I can't even pronounce, which translates to the
word trade.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, I guess it was a trade canal. That's what
That's what it's named after. That's what I believe true.
So that one was named before the one in Kansas.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Does it matter?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yes, it does, because that one was already in the books.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Oh so you're gonna call that one fraudulent.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
So we stole it.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So you're saying that we stole that from Canada.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's exactly what happened. Where Where's there's another Saint Louis
besides Missouri? I can't remember where.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Oh the Saint Louis High School in Honolulu?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
There it is?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, right, which Tua Tagovailoa went to the Great Olan Cruits.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The Pole Bear Center.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, yeah, Damien Riola went there. I believe Damien I think.
I hope I got that correct. His son is the
quarterback in Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
But yeah, Saint Louis High School in Honolulu. There's that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's impressive. Yeah, that's very good. Poll, I think so.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
And look, I mean, you know the fact that you know,
we brought up something had to do with trade, the
Ottawa trade. I mean, that's an appropriate segue, which is
all just to build up to this topic that Kevin
and I have been trying to get to for an hour.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
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Speaker 2 (07:12):
Oh it's great. I love listen. That just makes you
feel good, Like I don't know anybody that hears that
music and goes, oh God. Like most genres, you'll hear
and you'll be like, oh God, you'll find somebody who
doesn't like it. That just makes you feel good, makes
you makes you want to go out, put on a
zoot suit and go get a steak and have fun
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with the whole fam and and some extra curriculars included.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, so you're you're a big fan of the Mitch
Miller era, the big band era.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Sure, it's like the movie Swingers, you know they were
they were all into that stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, they were.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You remember that that movie made a lot of those
bands popular back in the day.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Well, let's swing into this deadline Dodgers, what picture they're
looking at, according to Ken Rosenthal, or Bob Nightingale, Bob Nightingale,
Sandy Alcntera or al Contra, depending on how you pronounce it.
From the Miami Marlins. Very good pitcher, but has been
hurt and this year has struggled. But he's club controlled
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this year, club controlled next year. And that seems to
be the guy. I mean, he's his last three outings
has been very good, but before that he was just lit.
But that is a name that is being kicked around.
Now let me say this. I read yesterday that the
Cubs were also interested in him.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's been going on for years. They've been kicking the
tires on him for years.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So that seems to be the guy at the trade deadline.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The fact that he's got team control, I think is
what makes it attractive. He's the best guy on the trademarket,
you would say correct as far as the name you're hearing,
the one that makes the most sense. And from what
I've heard, yeah, he's been coming off the injury, but
he's been trying to find his groove again. So he
can't really look at the numbers this year and say, oh,
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he's slumping, he's at another down year, he's damaged goods,
he's trying to find his way back, and in recent performances,
the feeling is that it maybe doesn't show up in
the numbers, but that he started to find some of
that old form coming out the injury. So that's I mean,
if he's the best guy, it's just the part that
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to me is kind of crazy is two months ago,
the discussion we were having was, boy, they got real
tough decisions to make. When the postseason rolls around. You
can't start ten guys, and it's like, no, you need
to go out and get an arm, Like you have
to go out and get an arm, because you just
don't know what you're gonna get. It's just and I
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do wonder how aggressive they're going to get this year,
or do they take the approach of maybe we don't
don't want to empty the chamber on a guy like
Sandy Alcntra or Alcantara, whatever you want to call him. Uh,
maybe we don't want to empty the chamber on a
guy who's developing back into potentially the pitcher. He was
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at the deadline, even though there's team control there, we'd
rather just wait for our guys to get healthy. And
maybe that's the maybe that's makes the more sense, makes
more sense for our rotation as the season winds down.
And I'm just curious how what their what their approach
is on that. I have a feeling they're going to
get aggressive.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well yeah, but the question becomes, if he's the top guy,
other teams have already mentioned him. Now how much how
much are you willing to give up? How much? How
much are you willing to give up? Who are you
going to give up? If he's the top guy and
other people want him? And I also understand this. Clayton
McCullough was Dave Roberts first base coach for years. He's
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now the manager of the Marlins, so he knows the
Dodger system. Because McCullough used to be the minor league
field coordinator, so he knows the whole system.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
And so if the Dodgers are interested in him, that's
probably a good sign that they feel based on having
potentially intimate knowledge, that he's bouncing back and rounding into
form of what he once was, or at least close
to what he once was.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Or it's very good for the Marlins if they get
what they want because Clayton mccolluugh knows who can play. Yeah,
and he'd take give us these three guys that we
can plug in here and get better faster. So again,
he knows. I don't know if that's an advantage or
a disadvantage. I would think a disadvantage for the Dodgers,
because that means they're not going to just lob some
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guy in there. They know who they'd want to ask for,
and then who do you move. I think the Major
League rosters said nobody's going. James Outman would be in
a deal. I'm sure they throw him in tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Good.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yes, say he's a bag of balls, Fred, I mean
that's a human being.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I didn't say it was a bag of ball.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Did he hit like.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Seven home runs in his first hour as a Dodger?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, and that was twelve years ago. And now, no,
he had a home run this year. I did too,
But he had a home run this year. Yes, But
I mean he's they would trade him, Okay, so who else?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
A bunch of guys in the system we don't know.
You gotta believe Miguel Rojas is not going to come
back next year, right, I would be very surprised.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
He's on a one year deal.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, Kik, he's on a one year deal. One year deal.
I think next months he has one more year if
I remember correctly, So some of those young guys are
going to try to move up here into the big leagues.
Got him some playing time, right, Do.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
You think that if if the Marlins, and this is
just total hypothetical since kicking around trade rumors, do you
think if the Marlins demanded Key k Hernandez, the Dodgers
would pull the trigger on this tri.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It'd be tough to figure out how long it'd take
him to pull the trigger.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I just I don't know. I I'll Key k reminds
me of one of those guys, because you're a Joe
Kelly say, you know, I don't want to play anywhere else.
He just reminds me of one of those guys that
he's good. He's good where he's at, like just like
you can like you could just pencil him in for
the foreseeable futures being a Dodger. I just I can't
imagine he moves anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Well, where's he gonna go? How about that approach? Seriously,
what does Key k hit two twenty. You only need
him for the postseason. If they could have signed him
in August, it would have been the best signing ever.
He gets the summer off, spend it with his wife,
enjoy himself, stay in shape. The playoffs started, they'll come
back and hit three hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I mean, plus he does the hip thrust high five. Yeah,
with certain players. No, that's tough to replace, you know,
let's not let's not discount that.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
No, you're absolutely right. And by the way, I can
now say I'm of the opinion that Dodgers do not
have the stupidest reaction to way hit anymore in base ball.
Remember when they were doing that Freddy dance.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I still don't understand, and they like they look like
a wind puppet at a car dealership.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
I still share it.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
No, I mean when they had doubles, they do still
do it.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, but they they don't do that all the time.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Any Yeah, Well they've added the show, you know, I
thing from his ad. But I mean when they had doubles,
get specifically, they do still do at least many of
them still do the Freddy dance.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
The future.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Then why does your what is your why don't you
people have fun, Fred, I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Want to have fun, yeaf Fred would rather they get
out on an attempted triple than a stand up double,
just so he doesn't have to see the wind puppet
at second base anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Just keep running, that's what we want.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
By the way, if you're a car dealership in town,
how have you not figured out for your Fourth of
July sale to throw a Dodger wind puppet up? You know,
make it ah, you know, use ai, make it Freddy
Freeman and throw that up and a lot if you
want to get people in.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Wouldn't be a bad idea. Yeah, would you do anything
to get Elkintara?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
No, I'm not giving up best prospects, I'm not. I
just I think that they're confident that some of these
guys are going to come back, But also who knows
when it comes down to the wire. You remember, it
came down to the wire and Flairty got dealt like
everyone thought. Man, they missed out, they missed their window,
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and it felt like it was even after the deadline
that that deal got done. So I don't know, but
you mentioned the connection obviously between the Marlins and the Dodgers.
They're going to know their prospects. Well, do you know
you can't dupe them into taking somebody who might be
damaged goods? Maybe does Maybe that does make it a
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little bit more difficult to deal that. Maybe the Marlins like, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, we want him him and him. Don't try
and throw in somebody less than because we know that
farm system as well as anybody in baseball.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Right I think I don't think that works to the
Dodgers advantage.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, like when you when you lay it out like that,
that does make sense. Why that could make it a
little bit more dicey to try and get a deal done.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You think they trade Mookie for him?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I mean he's the best bowler in Major League Baseball.
I mean, like, good luck filling that role exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
And maybe that's what the Marlins are looking for, a
guy that can bowl.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Are you not a Mookie fan? Is that what?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I love Moy? I love Mooky. I can't think of
one guy in the ever day, every day roster I
would trade, not one. I mean who could you trade really?
Not Freddie, not Edmund, not MOOKI not Max Montcy's.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Going nowhere, Fred, when you're twenty games over five hundred
into the All Star break here in a few weeks.
Rarely do you have somebody on the major league rosters
you want to trade away.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
That's you imagine that a fire sale, just like this.
We're winning to damn much. It's getting too boring here.
You know what, you'll You'll take whatever Bobblehead will give you. Guys,
we're out of here. We got our World Series. You
guys go screw yourself. But you know what, it is
appropriate because the Marlins basically did that twice.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
The Marlins dupe their fans. The Marlins dupe their fans
into like basically caving in on agreeing to whatever they
had to pay to get a stadium done there. And
they went out. It was Mark Burley and all these
guys they went out and signed in free agency, and
like a year later, they were all gone, all gone.
They basically fleeced them in to agreeing to the stadium
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deal and then traded away all their talent afterwards.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
It's brilliant, solid thinking, solid, Yeah, it is. Why not
to screw the fans. Good job.
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Jonas Knoxen today for Rodney two hour show Forest Dodgers
in Kansas City. Well, the NBA Draft is in the books,
and now let us welcome on from the Athletic, our
good friend Dan Witki. Dan, first of all, congratulations because
we haven't spoken since it happened on the Athletic gig.
Why did you make a move?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
You know, it was an exciting opportunity, you know, on
a more digital platform. And yeah, I'm excited, I will say,
though mostly I'm upset that I didn't get drafted last night.
Snubbed again. She was like twenty plus years in a row.
It's just like, but hey, you know, I'm gonna keep grinding,
keep getting shots up, and one of these days. If
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that sounds like an inflection, front, it's a little bit
of an inflection that one of these days, you know,
I'm gonna hear my name called. But very happy about
the new job, very happy about the new job, very
grateful for the time I had at the LA Times.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well, listen, yeah, congratulations. I echo those centimased fred I am.
You know, listen, if you're wanting to get drafted by
the NBA, are they doing the rounds three and four today?
Are they doing it tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Like?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What do you make of the NBA?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
I make the old The old NBA drafts was awesome,
like when I was a little kid, when it was
like seven rounds and like you would just take like
Carl Lewis just because you could. I think Carl Lewis
was drafted by an NBA team.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
But I just like, what are they? Like, why do
we need the space this out over two nights? You
can't just.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Round picking nineteen eighty four drumps? But uh no, So
the logic is, I mean, I think the reason why
I do it is like like like we're all addicted
to trades. That's like that that's why this is right.
It's like and if you look at like how the
Lakers were able to operate yesterday, like I don't know
that they're able to move up the way that they
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moved up. If you know, we take a ten minute
bathroom break after pick thirty and come back for pick
thirty one, you know, And I think that was the
logic behind it, right, Like one obviously, right, everybody's you're
not going to lose any first round viewers, you know,
by not giving them the second round of the NBA draft.
Like if you're gonna watch the NBA Draft, you're you're
gonna watch for a drum. And if you're gonna watch
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the second round draft, it's like found money too. Right,
So there's that part you split the product in half.
It works on that end. But but like from a
from a like a logistical standpoint, it just makes it
easier to make trades, you know. And I think the
Lakers being able to first move up, you know, for
a do with the era like who by the way
I was told it, you know, was the target all
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along as best as you can have a target in
the mid forties, right, And there were real rumors that
I was hearing throughout the day that Sacramento was looking
uh to draft, to draft him around forty two, so
three picks ahead of where the Lakers were able to
move up to. So the Lakers had to move up again.
You know, if they had had to made that jump
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from fifty five to thirty two in a matter of minute,
maybe it's a little harder to do, or maybe they've
got to use future capital, you know, to get it done.
Instead they just use the buses money.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know, you are right. We are addicted to trades,
Like I'm not gonna addicted, I don't know, addicted, like
the NFL draft whenever they're like, there's a trade that happens,
we have a trade to announce. Oh my gosh, like
it literally, I don't know. I didn't even think about
it until just brought it up.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Your tail, Your tail starts wagging. No, it's like, I
don't know what it is. It's so exciting and like
you watched it last night. And then what I love
about the.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
NBA Draft is.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Like how how like excited I get for players that
are probably never gonna matter. Like generally speaking, I'm not
talking about the Lakers pick necessarily, but like you know,
like I'm texting with sources and stuff like that and
you know I don't pick. I'm violating anything like this,
but like, you know, there was there there was a
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player that the Lakers were looking at at a two
way deal, you know who got picked like and and
and the mid to late fifties, right, and.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
You're like, oh, what a blow for the organization. You're
running like what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Like this doesn't mean anything like ultimately like like maybe
like me, like maybe you draft a coolyokic, maybe you
draft me. It's really I mean, the range of possibilities
is pretty endless, and so it is fun to like
and the NFL draft is like the NFL draft is
like those like those dudes matter like all the time, right,
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like the fifth round picks like they play like they'll
like and you know this type of stuff is you know,
the Lakers don't have a center. And I would never
besmirch the wonderful fans of the Lakers organization who fled
my timeline with just gone awful trade ideas, but like
there was like an idea that it's like, you know,
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like the two undrafted two way period is coming up, like,
let's find us our starting center, and it's like, this
is not how it works, Like that's not gonna be there.
That's not like and he wasn't gonna be there with
the second round pick. Anyways, you don't start rookie centers
if like, if you anyways?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Sorry, what do you think about the Laker draft overall?
That we know what they got and then the guy afterwards?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah, I think getting to I think getting to a
position to take uh Theerra was really good work by
Rapplink in the front office, right, and they were able
to do it without having to trade any players or
any future draft picks. You know, I guess I don't
I believe Rob when he said based on the information
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I had that you know, they had a top thirty
grade on a do Theero as a player. So you know,
it's kind of like stealing a first round draft pick
or pay I mean stealing is thet wad they've paid.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
For it, you know, like millions of dollars.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
But like to to go into a night without a
first round pick and get a player that you know,
maybe you would have taken twenty eighth, is that's that's good?
Like they've drafted well in those situations, right, Like that's
where they took Josh Hart. You know, that's where Max
Christie is in this range for them when they were
able to buy into the second round. So was Maxwell
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Lewis who was just released to be able to for Cliinettes.
But like you know this, there's like a level and
there's some randomness to this, but I think, yeah, like
the player, he fits a good archetype. He's got to
learn how to shoot more consistently, but he's a tremendous
athlete if he's able to stay healthy and stay on
the court. He is a guy who can guard multiple
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positions defensively, who's big and physical and fast and gets
into passing lanes and gets easy baskets. Like you know,
last night talking to Spectrum, Rob Clinka mentioned ogn Andobi,
Like we'll see on that front, Og is a pretty
good player offensively, particularly he's gotten very very good on
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that side of the ball. But like that's the archetype
of the guy. Like they need those guys almost as
much as they need a center. So yeah, well done,
good job, And then like everything else is just kind
of like we'll see.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Now you mentioned the center position, what are the options
because I know you know they've talked about we're going
to exhaust every effort to try and make this happen.
But what are the reasons.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Six foot seven in under league? Uh No, I mean,
so let's just let's just try to lay it all
out and if I start rambling, tell.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Me to shut up.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
So the next big domino to fall is going to
be Dorian Phinney Smith and whether or not he ops
in or ops out of his contract. If he opts
out of his contract and decides he would like to
sign elsewhere, the Lakers will have full access to the
mid level exception. Now, what that does is that that
maybe open some doors and for agency with some players,
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but it does not give you access to like Miles Turner,
the best center available, like he's gonna cost much more
than that. It doesn't give you access to like and
he's not the type of center you want anyways necessarily,
but like Nasried, like like those guys are gonna be
more expensive. It does maybe give you access to like
sort of like that next tier down, and these guys
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are not, by the way, Joseph Reid that the types
of centers you would want to pair with Luka Dancis.
Let's just be totally clear about that. Those guys are
like run jump bob centers. Okay, those are those are
those players. But like, you know, if you wanted to say,
like make an offer for Al Horford, you know it's
like a veteran, trustworthy guy, someone have gone to dinner
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early with Lebron James, like something like that. You could
do that. You know, you you have that option. Maybe
you split that that mid level into two plays. I
still think the most viable pathway to getting like a
real center is via trade, and it's just like that
just hasn't materialized.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Right.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Nick Claxton is the name you hear a lot when
I like call my sources around the league, I'm like, hey,
what are hearing? What are you hearing about Nick Claxton?
Every says nothing, not hearing anything, you know. And when
I've spoken to people within the Lakers about Nick Claxton,
you know, it's it's it's respectful, and he's an option,
but it's not like the exact kind of option that like,
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you know, you're ready to like sell it all off
to go get this guy. And when you look at
what the Lakers have and This is the issue, is
that there is a there is a version of this
that like.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I'm gonna describe this like if.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
You were gonna buy, if you were gonna buy like
a shirt for thirty dollars and if you have you know,
one hundred bucks or two hundred bucks, Like you might
buy the thirty dollars shirt and you'll feel good about it.
If you have thirty five dollars, you might look at
that shirt twice. And like the Lakers when it comes
to assets, like they like if they trade their first
round pick, like there's not much else than the arsenal
(28:28):
right now, you know, if they trade Dalton Connect like that,
Like every time they make a trade, it's one less
thing they have to use later. And that's just sort
of the reality of where their roster is right now.
And that's that's the challenge. So you know, are they
going to bargain hunt? Like you hear Clincapella's name in
free agency a lot as a guy that you know
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has played really good pick and roll lob threat basketball
before it was a long time ago when he was
at his best, did not have a very good season
last year in Atlanta. Some scouts are kind of like's
you know, it is the mileage. There's a twist tread
on those tires. He's a player. I think that can
make some sense. But it's not like you're not gonna
(29:09):
You're not We're not gonna have this conversation on Tuesday.
I don't believe with like they found the answer because
I'm not totally sure the answer is available.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Dan, what are they going to change the draft night
procedure where guys were the right hair?
Speaker 5 (29:27):
As soon as you said, when are they going to change?
It's you know what I mean? I mean, look if
it is.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
What it is like in terms of like like a
being official.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Like it's like, can we just stop announcing the trades
forty five minutes after we already know them? Who are
those four too? Like when Mark Tatum comes to stage,
like we have a trade to announce and it's a
trade that happened, Like there was at one point last
night where they announced they announced a trade, you know,
and then there had already been like two other trades
behind it for the same pick. I agree, it's silly.
(29:59):
How about this, Maybe don't to the hats.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
What would you recommend?
Speaker 7 (30:05):
Just nothing like a sash?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Maybe like a sash that you could you could like
photoshop in and out easier. It got like a like
a miss main type of sash.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
How About they can't announce the trades when they happen.
How About they can't announce the trade when whoever was
supposed to pick is no longer picking. Hey, earlier today
there was a trade Dallas traded to Phoenix, So Phoenix
is now picking. How about that?
Speaker 5 (30:32):
I mean, it's all Look, I think I don't think
you're wrong. I think this is a very kneesh addy
and sets upset by the hats again. It's the second round,
the second eight of the NBA Draft.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I don't know who else I was watching it with.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
I mean, you know, I like sashes. I'm pro sash.
This is you know, I had never thought about it, friend,
until right now. I think I think, like maybe a
sensible shawl or something like that. Yeah, it would be good.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Do you also think that the hats this year were
a little bit bad?
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I'm not a fan, Like too small a font, the curvature,
like you.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
And they all look they all look too much alike,
which maybe is for the trade or something like that. Yeah,
you know, I mean, I'm a I'm an old school
type of person. I guess just whatever happened to, like
the I can't believe guys, you're making me do this?
Whatever happened to, like just the black color, Like, shouldn't
the Lakers hat just be like a purple hat with
(31:30):
like a yellow bill thank you, and like the gold
lettering on it.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Thank you? That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Shouldn't it just look like that?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Agreed?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Like, let's stop getting so fancy, all right, go back
to the good old days block lettering and make it
easy for everybody.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
You know what they should do, right? Do you know
what they should do because of this idiotic trade situation?
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Okay, so it.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Would be like getting drafted would be like winning the Masters.
You get an NBA hat.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Just a generic hat that says the pick number. Okay,
how about.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
That Dolph hat? Put the big letters on it and
it just say draft.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, It's like it's like when you climb Mount Everest
to give you a T shirt. You're like, I got
draft the big.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
D r F T hat. All right, sure, I'm in.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
The logo on it. It just doesn't say draft. But
that would be a keepsake you would be one of
only so many people that have that.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
How about that that like oh okay, like maybe like
some sort of like limited edition and like just like
well then okay, why not just do draft tr is
that too?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I mean, I'm just saying all of these are better
than than what than what was happening now?
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I should call it like, I mean, his name is
Adam Silver, I'm sure he knows a guy.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I mean, by the way, are you guys the same
as me?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Though?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
You know what I used to love is what now
they're on this guilty pleasure old school and a NBA
draft process. I used to love listening to them open
the envelope during the lottery, when they would open the
envelope and pull the card out in the lot Oh my, Yeah,
there was something about that I just thought, think it
was just so thrilling to see, God, who's it going
to be next?
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Look it's Orlando again, or it's Philly. It's just there
was something about that whole process that to go along
with the trade addiction that we have.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Man, I think the one thing that I do like
about the draft is that, like we have I believe
mostly turned the corner on like incredibly ridiculous houseits and
have begun to focus on what matters, which is like
incredibly emotional family members. Like that's like become like like
the memeable thing, and it's much more wholesome, you know,
(33:47):
and I think we'll in like it will hold up
a little better than sort of like say, like you know,
some ridiculous like you know, short suit or something like that.
I like the I like the less distracting draft choices.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I also don't.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Really love the like the second eyed green room stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Like that.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Also, but look, man, hey you get to hear a
name called It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
It's great.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Like I'm just being a grump.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
All right, listen, we have two minutes. What do you
think of a Bailey and the cards he played?
Speaker 5 (34:21):
You know, I like a for effort, I guess, like
to try to like you know, to try to like
control his fate. It's a player empowerment league, like I's
like I mean, and the only day, like you never
have less powers in a me player than you do
on draft day, and so like trying to maybe you know,
(34:44):
trying to manipulate this in a way that works for you. Awesome,
I will say, like it puts a ton of pressure
on you as you start your career to do this,
to be.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Worth the hassle.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, because you basically presented yourself as better than the
organization and.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
In the process and everything else too. Yeah, exactly right, Like,
I'm gonna do what I need to do. You know,
you don't get a choice in this matter. I'm gonna
make this choice.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
You know.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
If he's good, he will have plenty of leverage over
the course of his career.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
If he's not, he will.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Be like a lot of players who have tried to.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Do versions of this.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Look, it's it's not unique though, right, it's unique.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
To the NBA.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
It's not unique to like sports. I mean, it happens
in the baseball draft all the time. It happens, you know,
I mean Eli Manning, Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Mark Spears shared a story that that Steph Curry didn't
want to be drafted by the Warriors and didn't do
a worker for the Warriors had worked out.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
All right, Well you know what, we draft you anytime
we have a team. Dan, thank you for coming on today.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Guys, I'm not reporting, all right, just gut do for it, all.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Right, We'll be back to wrap it up right after this.
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Speaker 1 (36:24):
Well, I appreciate you doing this today, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I mean, listen, I'm glad. I hope that doesn't cause
any problems, you know with my ex from the week,
Petros and I just hope everybody's everybody's okay with this.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I think the problem is on our side, not his.
Be quite honest. I mean we're trying to be forgiving.
We are trying to do that. I don't know why
you had to bring it up. What what's his problem?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
He knows what he did, you know, he just you know,
I feel like I'm kind of caught in the middle,
you know. I'm uh, well, no, you weren't.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You weren't caught in the middle. You made a choice.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I'm a promiscuous radio host. There's who was sleeping around
with the other show earlier week as the most recent
is yesterday, and then are here. We are less than
twenty four hours later, and I'm in your bed.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Let me ask you this, And there's something to be
said for experience. So which experience was more fulfilling for you?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I think we both know the answer or the one
you better say.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I guess we'll find out Monday. Yeah, we definitely do.
We definitely do. But no, man, it's always fun. And
plus this time of year, like this is when I
know a lot of people call it, well, it's you
know that the slow time, the dead period in sports
talk radio. My ass, this is when you can color
outside the lines. You can get into you know, you're
(37:44):
not doing so many quote unquote game recaps. The NBA
playoffs are over, the Dodgers are dominant again, just quietly,
still the best team in baseball, and so now we
can sort of spread out a little bit and kind
of cover some other taran Like, listen, we broke down
fake Id's on Alvarado Street, you know.
Speaker 7 (38:02):
What I mean?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Like, there's nothing better than that on a Friday here.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
You don't we call that?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
What's that news?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
You can use.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah, that's right, I believe.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
So let's make head on now to Alvarado Street.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Let's we forget our lesson about Ottawa.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Awa learned that today too, both of them.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, anybody listening in Ottawa, Kansas on the iHeartRadio app.
I tried, but Fred was really dismissive about giving you
guys some love.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I tried, all right, and we gave some love to
both Kansas cities. We learned that the Kansas City, the
Missouri Kansas City, is bigger than the Kansas Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
And by the way, have you seen Bobby wit Junior play?
Speaker 1 (38:40):
He can play. He's fun man, He's a stunt.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, like that's a he's the goods. Maybe a little
bit of a down year this year, but you know,
Kansas City's kind of waffling right now. But he's really,
really talented, one of the more complete players in baseball.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
And you will hear the game right here in the
old radio station. So Ronnie, thanks, you really appreciate it.
Great week Kevin, thank you as well. Have a good weekend.
And jonas are we doing this Monday?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I mean, it depends on if you wine and die
me this weekend or not.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Fred we know it doesn't take much. I'll see you Monday.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Thanks guys,