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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, we continue on Jonas Knoxen today for Rodney
on a five seventy LA sports our. Thanks to Dan
Waikey checking in top of last hour. Good NBA stuff
all over it And if you didn't hear our conversation,
So we'll open the phone lines in the next segment,
we'll see if anybody's interested. We want your best reunion
story or your worst high school reunion. Well, college reunion
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count as well.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Jonas, high school, I think you open up a more
fun discussion, you know, high school college. I mean, who
knows how many people are actually going to class high school.
You've got it for the most part, sit in side
with these people for four years. So yeah, I think
high school is the way to go.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
All right, your high school reunion, that's what it'll be.
I mean, uh, we had Eddie Ortiz. It didn't happen
at the reunion, but when he was in high school
he would run out of house's naked all the time.
Who yeah, going a while, there'd be a party, you'd say,
had he running out naked.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
One of those guys.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Huh, Yeah, I don't know what he was doing. I mean,
no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Apparently sharing appairently was I you know you mentioned Dan
wiki his take on the fourth of July. Basically he
wants he wants there to not be a Fourth of July,
because he pointed out, listen, the grilling is fine and
all that, because we brought it up to him, Covering
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the NBA is in essence ruined your Fourth of July
because you've got to be on the phone and on
call because you never know when there's a big time
deal that gets made. I think Kevin Durant might have
signed with Golden State on the fourth of July. I
remember Gordon Hayward. I think was on fourth of July
or the day before. So if you covered the NBA,
you're basically on call because there's movement that happens on
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a holiday, even though they've tried to move it up
a little bit and to get all that stuff out
of the way. But his take on fourth of July
was it's too hot. You know, I wish it was
October tenth to be able to do all this. Yeah,
well then it would cease to exist like that. That
is what fourth fourth of July is. All day. You grill,
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h you bend the elbow a little bit, but it's
got to if you're gonna drink beers, they got to
be out of a cooler, all right, because you got
to reach in and grab the can. The ice has
got to fall off the top of the can. You
can go to the pool. If you have a pool nearby,
people are eating those little rock of bomb popsicles. You're
doing s'mores at night, there's fireworks like that. That is
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a summertime activity. It would cease to exist if you
moved it to any other time of the year. The
heat just comes along with it.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, but I mean you could do it in October. Ok,
you just wouldn't have the heat. You could still. I
mean October and southern California's so warm.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You go to the pool, Well, that's part of it.
It's like the people that go to Hawaii for Christmas.
You doing like if you go to Waikiki, Like if
you walk down Waikiki, there is a Hawaiian store that
literally sells nothing but Hawaiian merchant or I'm sorry, Christmas
store that literally sells nothing but Hawaiian Christmas merchandise just
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for Christmas. Like people love to go to Hawaii for Christmas.
Why the snow, the cold? That's all part of the holiday,
just like the heat is all part of the holiday.
When it comes to the fourth of July. You just
got to wear it a little bit. That that's that's
part of it, that's part of the backdrop. I just
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It doesn't snow in Los Angeles or Phoenix and there's Christmas.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, but you know you're not traveling to at least
out here there's the potential that it could get a
little cooler. There's the potential in Hawaii. You're you're paying
all that money to travel out there, and listen, it's
nothing against you know, our fine affiliate, the the Tiki
Torch of the Hawaiian Islands, five sports nine ninety nothing
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against him. Okay, but look it's seventy five to eighty
degrees all year long. Like, there's nothing Christmasy about that
at all whatsoever to me. At least out here, there's
the potential that maybe freak occurrence and the temperatures drop
to like sixty one sixty degrees.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Are you saying it's just Jewish people that go to
Hawaiian because they don't tell Christmas? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
No, that had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well, why would they care how cold it is? They
want warm?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I don't even know if they I don't even know
if there's Chinese food restaurants in Hawaii. All right, I've
never been to one. All right. That was always Andy Furman,
who's Jewish. The Great Andy Furman always told me that
he loved Christmas because he's like, yeah, he's all you know,
just an excuse to have Chinese food like that was
that was that was his thing. So yeah, we just
so that's our Chinese food holiday. So you guys celebrate Christmas,
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we go get Chinese food, right, Okay, all right, but
I mean, I just I don't know why people would
want to escape wintertime during Christmas when Christmas is about wintertime.
That's part of it. And it's just like fourth of July.
Do you want it to rain on fourth of July?
Do we want it to be sixty degrees? No? I like,
I like a nice hot day and fourth of July
and I'm pasty as hell. I look like notebook paper,
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so you know.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
But you know what yellow notebook paper? And I like
those yellow leap cads. Get what your skin looks like? No?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
No, okay, then I should say, a paper towel. Yeah,
I mean that's why whenever I'm working with LeVar and
it's just LaVar and I and Brady's out, we call
our show Black and Drack because he says I look
like Dracula and he's black. So it just kind of
works that.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Way the other way around.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh that was my bad, right, I can see how
you get it confused.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, no, it's showed me a little bit. All Right,
your reunion stories are coming up, but James Harden is
coming back. There you go. It worked. He's got a
two year deal, pay him like forty million a year,
and it coincides with Kawhi's deal, so now they're married
for the next two years.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I could hear the dismissive tone in your voice.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
No, that actually makes sense. Look, I can't remember a
time where James Harden didn't complain during the season. There's
always a problem. He's always he gets unhappy at some point,
something happens. He was like a model guy for the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
He played seventy six games last year. Yeah, like he
was consistent. I don't remember there being any sort of
an issue. I don't remember Adam Auslin ever reporting a
James Harden's being a real pain in the ass. I
don't remember any of that, but I wonder how many
people are surprised by that that, Hey, you know, it's
actually kind of worked out better than we thought. There
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wasn't There hasn't been a lot. Now, I did hear this,
and I know you would probably have strong feelings about this.
One of the rumors I heard or I was reading
about a little bit sure was that, you know, there
is the potential that maybe Chris Paul could make his
way back to the Clippers. Like I'm just telling you,
that was one of the names that was kicked around,
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that Chris Paul maybe comes back out here and is
a member of the Clippers again, which I know that
you'd be a big fan of.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, look a couple of things. Do you remember when
Kevin will remember this? Chris Paul was a Dodger stadium
and they put his picture up, you know how they
put the celebrities up on the big score board as
they should. Chris Paul, I mean Chris Paul. Granted, Chris
Paul played for the Lakers for twelve seconds before that
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deal was negated and he ended up with the Clippers.
Chris Paul. They put him up. Let's say the crowd
with forty five thousand, everybody booed, everybody booted Chris Paul.
Oh my god, so Chris Paul, you mean it?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Tell me there wasn't one Clippers fan at Dodger Stadium
that night.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
It was.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It was mind boggling. I felt so badly for him.
I mean, if he had just been wearing a different jersey,
the place would have exploded. Instead, it was like everybody
boot him, and I thought, oh god, this is terrible.
This is terrible. So if he comes back, look, if
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it's the right price, it's fine. We know Chris Paul
when he played for the Clippers in the playoffs. We
know his move. Dribble, right elbow shoot. Okay, ten seconds left,
we need a basket. Let's call that last second play.
Got it inbound, Chris Paul. Dribble, right elbow shoot. Every
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time it got to a point where I actually thought,
at my age, I could have defended it because it
was the exact same play every time. Dribble drive, right
elbow shoot. And then people were saying, I can't believe
they're blocking a shot. You can't. There's four guys standing
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there wedding for him to get there. I think at
the right price, it's a good it's a good thing. Jonas, Sure, but.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You know he played in every game for the Spurs
last year.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
How many minutes a game?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean this, and that's irrelevant, but well, look, I
mean as long as he's out there. I mean, you know,
Miles Bridges played like six seconds in a game to
keep his consecutive game streak alive, you know, so that
happens from kind to average minutes last year for the Spurs,
for Chris Paul twenty eight minutes a game.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh, that's solid, it's solid outing, it's not bad. What
was numbers? Do you have him in front of him?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I'm looking at just under nine points seven assists a game.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Turnovers are now turnovers a game?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Efforting efforting turnovers, you know, one point six?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That'd bell I mean, for the right price, why not?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's not it's not awful. And look, we know his
age and whatnot. But you know, he just came off
playing eighty two games, clearly wants to keep playing. And yeah,
at the right price, why wouldn't you do it?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Do you think you can name the seven teams that
Chris Paul has played for throughout the course of his career.
If you, if you had to, he's played for seven
teams in his career thus far. Do you think you
can name all seven?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Let's see Clippers correct, Spurs correct, Rockets correct?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Uh not Golden State, Spurs, Rockets? He did? He play for?
Oklahoma City?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
He played for Golden State and Oklahoma City. That's five.
You've got two more to go.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, let me think did he play for? Was it
in the East clevelandst?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
No, not Cleveland? Well, think about who he came into
the league with.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Phoenix.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Phoenix was one, but that was later in his career.
But who'd he come into? Like who did the heat
they the Clippers acquire him from?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Oh? New Orleans? Yeah, the Hornets, yeah, may Adam. Like.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
In fact, he played so long I remember we were
talking about Kevin Durant played for the Seattle SuperSonics. Yeah,
Chris Paul actually played for the New Orleans slash Oklahoma
City Hornets. That's how long ago he was in the
NBA two thousand and five, two thousand and six, when
they were splitting between New Orleans and Okan Right, Yeah,
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that's a different NBA back then, man, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
What that's right. Uh, how about back in the way,
back in the NBA day the Kansas City Omaha Royals,
casey Omaha Royals they split.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Two and well didn't they become Cincinnati?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, and they became Cincinnati. That's uh? And and didn't
uh did did Oscar play for them?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah? Oscar Robertson the big old Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I think he played for them. Yeah, he's and I'm
trying to think who else, but yeah, that was a
lot of split teams there.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I think Connie Dirking was their center.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I was just gonna say that.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I think he was a big hook shot. There's a
little NBA for you.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, I mean, so listen, James Harden much better than
I think a lot of people expected. And maybe Chris
Paul comes back.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
You know, that'd be great. Yeah, that would be great.
You know, they should get rascals by the court because
you know, I'll have to ride on and off. Oh jeez, well,
I'm just saying, you know, with all due respect, Chris
Paul a little along in the tooth.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Can't you just get can't you be for once in
your life? Can you be nice to the Clippers like that.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I am nice of the Clipper. I talk about Steve
Balmer all the time in their organization. I only said
good things about James Harden last year. I also said
Kawhi when he came back, played very well he did.
I think they have a really good organization. They have
been able to get over the hump, but it ain't
from a lack of try. And I'll tell you that
they are really committed to winning. I think it's great.
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They're good in the community. I have no problem with
the Clippers now.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I think the the takes on SGA winning a title
and him being a Clipper and they're them trading him
have started to diminish to where I think people are
starting to use a little nuance to the discussion, not
so much of a what you traded him to get
this and he won a title and you guys haven't
And you and I have talked about this before. There's
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not a team in the NBA. If you were to
go back to real time in the moment when the
trade happened, there wasn't a single organization in the NBA
who wouldn't have also made that trade, not one if
you had told if you could have told teams you
can get Kawhi and Paul George at the same time,
but you're gonna have to part with potentially a really
good player down the road in Shagildess Alexander. Not a
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single nobody in the NBA would would have turned that
deal down.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
No, you had to make the deal. Yes, had to.
I mean there's no question about it. You would have
been insane not to make it. It didn't work, but
you sure had to go for it. And much respect
to them. God, you know, look how long it took
Sga to become the MVP. He's been pretty good, to
be honest with you, but I mean he's the MVP.
How many years. If the Clippers didn't make that move,
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I don't know if they would have been considered even
a free agent destination. Seriously, but it showed they were
committed to winning.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It was a great move, and it also showed that
they could get a player or a player would choose
them over the Lakers, which is a big deal at
the time. And that and a surprising deal at the
time because when it happened and then you started to
hear all the details and the reports about because it
was right around this time that all that stuff went down,
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and I can remember hearing reports afterwards and they were saying, well,
you know, they had some secret meeting at the Four
Seasons in Westlake Village. And I'm like, dah, I drive
a boy that thing all the time, Like we've been
in there. No, God, no, really, yeah, they wouldn't allow
me in there, please, I'll sure they would.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
No, Yeah, they would.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That's listen. Look, I'm a you know, I'm a twenty
three freeway eight h five guy, whole different world.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Fred.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
You wouldn't know that because as you venture south on
the one oh one, you like to hang out in
places really ritzy, like Sherwood Aga Hills, Like I know
how you operate.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I wasn't a Sherwood guy. That's not fair. I was
never a Sherewood guy.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I think Gretzky's lives over there.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I think he sold his house.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Oh did he?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I think so? Yeah? I think I told it.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I think Will Smith lived over there for a time.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
A lot of people lived there. It was beautiful. Yeah, yeah,
But I wasn't that guy. Westlake's too far out for me.
I mean, Calabasas was a schlap, but Westlake was way
too far if you're out there, you're in your own world.
I mean to go to Staples Center back in the
day from Calabasas if you wanted to go see a game,
it's two and a half hours in trap. If you
leave it a long time, Yeah, it's miserable. You might
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as well go down the day before, spend the night,
watch the game, and come back.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I don't even consider the one oh one to get
downtown or anywhere close to downtown. I'll just I'll deal
with the ugly brown mountains of the one eighteen. I'll
take the one eighteen and just deal with that. Even
though it's it's a little bit more mileage. I would
rather deal with that than the one on one faster.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
It's more miles, but it's faster.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Because you could take like you could you could take
the one eighteen to the five to the one seventy right,
and you skip past all of that on the one
oh one and the four or five. It's just that's
a that is a miserable like whatever, Like what are
the advantage Like driving in at two in the morning,
you don't ever encounter traffic, but it is wild the
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difference in three hours, like because then like if you
if if I'm doing if I'm filling in on say
the Dan Patrick Show, or from where if we're filling
in on the herd. It took us, especially with the
fires when they shut down PCH from Thousand Oaks to
Sherman Oaks, which is what you like, twenty five miles, Yeah,
like twenty it took an hour forty five.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Oh my god, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's why whatever anybody else around the country talks all
by god, traffic's are real, bitch. Shut up, you have
no idea. You don't, you have no We are in
a war zone out here. You have no clue what
you're talking about. Please an hour? So how did you
get there? Jad to take There was no other way
on a one that was faster because the four or
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five was so jammed up that if you took the
one eighteen to get to the four or five, you're
still gonna have to sit on the four or five
at least the one on one. You're only on it
for a short time and then you get right off
at Ventura like this terrible man.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Jesus all right, yeah, I was trying to think of
alternative routes for you. I mean, if you'd come up
to one eighteen. Maybe you could have gotten off at Tapanga.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well, but if you could take Ventura Boulevard, but then
if you hit one red light, you're gonna hit them all.
So you're kind of rolling the dice.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Unless you took to Panga and kind of inch started
inching toward Ventura Boulevard, but then maybe made a left
on Satakoi right and took that and then go right
and keep going like that diagonally. You don't kind of
zigzag to get there.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I could use your helicopter, would have come in handy well,
that would have been great.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, all right, do you have a reunion story? Your
high school reunion? That's what we talked about last hour.
We'll relive some of those for you, but we want
to hear your best or worst reunion story eight six, six,
nine eighty seven two five seventy.
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Speaker 1 (19:36):
Jonas NOTx in today for Rodney Well. Nobody called about
the reunion. Nobody wants to tell us the reunion story Jonas,
So we're gonna move on.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, they're probably nerds. They don't have to tell anybody
they got shoved in lockers and.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
God, stuff didn't happen really when you were in high school,
did it?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I mean it's just you know, like when like playing football,
it's just like it's at a lord. Like you always
hear people say that if you if you were to
tell the story of locker room comments and behavior to
somebody who has never played, they would look at you
like a weirdo. And obviously I was terrible in high
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school as a high school football player, so it's not
like I have experience in college or the NFL at all.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
Here.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Even Petros will talk about stuff, or LeVar or Brady
Quinn will talk about stories that I just remember in
high school, like some of the some of the pranks,
some of the shenanigans that took place were so so
inappropriate that it's like anything that would have happened in
high school outside of that somebody getting shoved in a locker,
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I probably didn't even notice it, wasn't even aware.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You got one story that Petro's told, you remember.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Not a story that Petro's told, but I just remember,
all right, I remember again, this is not me. I
actually saw this, though you witnessed it, and I can
still point to exactly where it was. So in between
the lockers there were these benches and it was like
it was after a practice and we just done conditioning,
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so people are worn out. You walk into the locker
room and there was a guy on our team. I
think this might have been my sophomore year. I think
it was sophomore year. There was a guy on my
team who was a clown whatever, but he was laying
on the bench and he had sort of his arms
crossed covering his eyes because he was exhausted. And one
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of our other teammates literally put his cup, took his
cup off and put it over his nose and mouth
like an oxygen mask. It was the most disgusting thing
I'd ever seen in my life. And it was just like,
if you were to tell that to somebody who's who
didn't play, they're like, oh, my gosh, should go to
It's like, well, no, that was just that was their relationship.
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They were ball busting all the time, literally, and that's
the way. That's the way you handled that stuff. So
I think he ran out. I think he threw his
cup into the parking lot. So the guy had to
go into the parking lot and grab his jacket his
cup and bring it just it is. So that was
that was the experience. I mean, and people wondered why
we were terrible, Like he wondered why we were a
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terrible football team. Maybe that was why too much grab ass.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You guys were bad?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh god? Yeah yeah bad? Yeah, not good at all.
I mean, look I made the team.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
What does that tell you? Yeah, yeah, we were not
good at all.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, we were bad too. I don't even know if
we won a game. We had to win a game
in four years with Ed Ranshaw. Yeah, he was the
he was the guy, and it was he was a
defensive coordinator, but he had no no fingers. Wait what yeah,
he had no fingers, but he was a defensive coordinator. Yeah,
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they got blown off.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
What do you mean they got blown off?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
His fingers got blown off like fourth of July, I
don't know when. But he had no fingers.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
He had no fingers.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
No, he had like stubs.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So how would he show you a three point stance?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
It was difficult, I'm gonna tell you. And he was
in charge of selling the programs at the Phoenix Suns
games in Arizona State.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I mean it was anybody just like a real pain
in the ass and like made him count out.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Change just don't He was a big guy though.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Like the programs are two dollars, and they gave him
a five and three ones just to see what would happen.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
No nobody did that. No, okay, I understand. But that
was also the team that I've told the story. I'll
just make it real brief where we had sideways man,
because because we had no kicker, anytime we'd scored, and
it was very infrequently, they'd put this one guy in
and it would take this snap from center and run
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as quickly as he could, as fast as he could,
directly towards the sideline as if he was running off
the field. He'd take the snap, turn and sprint as
quickly as he could for the sideline.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
He's got to get around that corner.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Right just before he got to the sideline, he would
turn and try to fall into the end zone. That's
how we we went after extra points, and we didn't
go after many sideways man didn't get a lot of play,
but that was his deal. Run as fast as he
could towards the sideline and then fall in. Maybe that's
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why we didn't win a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
That seems like a serviceable reason as to why he
didn't win a lot of games, Like, yeah, that makes
a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, that's why. That's why. Oh, by the way, we
have an update. It's a great Newslaker fans. You should
be thrilled with this. Marquees reporting that. Uh, Chris ads,
I'm sorry, chrisines mar Mark played for the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Mike Haynes by the way, Mike Haynes played for the Raiders,
not Marquyes.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
No, Mike Kynes owned Haines underwear, which Michael Jordan endorsed. Mark.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
That that Mark Haynes man. He's breaking stories left and right.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
All right, Chris Haynes who used to work for Yahoo.
There that is true?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Does he know does he know John Tirania? Does he
know him?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Or?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Is that? All right? Listen, damn it, Jonas, this is
exciting news. It looks like the Lakers and I'll really
close on DeAndre Ayton.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
All right, this is it. This is what you get. Fred,
You spoke this in new existence because of the disgusted
noise you made. When Dan Wyke he brought up the
potential of DeAndre Ayton being on the radar of the
of the Lakers, like this is what you get, what noise?
(25:59):
Like you probably go back can pull it. I laughed, Oh,
we'll give you a minute, like geez.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Like, look, if that's what they can do, that's what
they can do, and everybody will get behind him and
support him. Is everybody'll be will Is it not an
upgrade from what they didn't have any they were looking
for us?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
That's the point, so listen, that makes sense. I've also heard,
like some some people have speculated about Robert Williams, the
third out of Portland. He can't stay healthy, but you
know defensive presence at least that that that's another name
that could be out there. Did they got to do something?
And if you can land Deondre Ayden, why not?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
You know what he is? He's one of these Hey,
I know that guy. It's the name game, it's the
name game. I know that guy. I've heard of that guy.
Let's get that guy. Let's go get him. That's the
guy for us.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Because you don't like him. It's the name game? Is
that what it is?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
What is that supposed to mean?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I mean that's usually how this works.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Fred.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
If it's someone that you're not the biggest fan of
your playing the name game, and if it's someone that it.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Is, like, all right, this is alright. Get that guy.
Give me one other example of a name game that
I've done that with, Kevin, could you can't?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh god, I know who did you do last year?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Carmelo Anthony a couple of years ago?
Speaker 1 (27:09):
That was an accurate statement.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Oh no, no, no, no, god, I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Who did you do last Carmelo Anthony was not the
same guy.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Oh, I don't disagree, But you've definitely you've done this
multiple times.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
And I've been accurate.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Said there was somebody last year during this time. I
remember I was filling in Rodney last year around this time,
and you brought up the name of somebody and you
did the name game. I went, was it Chris Paul?
It might have been Chris. It might have been Chris
Paul last year. Chris Paul might have gotten it last year.
(27:43):
So the name Game winner in twenty twenty four was
Chris Paul. The Name Game winner Fred's name game winner
in twenty twenty five is DeAndre eight. I mean, both
those guys have a history with the Phoenix area. I'm
telling you there's something to it. Fred the Desert Dean.
The Desert Dean, that's a that's a competing desert.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Now for you, do you think DeAndre Eyton will be
a good fit. I mean, let's put it like this,
despite the fact that he's had some attitude problems. If
you're on the team with Lebron, can you have attitude problems? Well,
he's put up with that.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I'm like anybody who's has the understanding, especially this this
stage in your career, you are the fourth option. Like
you're fourth because it's Lebron, it's Luca swathed that out
how you want, it's Austin Reeves, Like you're just a
You're a fourth option at this point. They just you're
(28:38):
not gonna you're not gonna land a superstar at that position.
You're not gonna land an All NBA type player at
that position. You're just looking for somebody who's not a
pain in the ass and somebody that's dependable. That's it. Well, Creighton,
from everything I've heard, my sources have told me, great guy,
work ethic through the roof, very misunderst stood, and would
(29:01):
be a great fit and a great addition to any
locker room in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Now, we'll say there's different different definitions of what dependable means.
But if you want to talk about a guy that's
not played more than seventy games since his rookie season,
I don't know if i'd call that dependable.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
He likes his free time, he clearly does.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
He played forty games last year, fifty five of the
year before that, sixty seven the year before that.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
And he's not old.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
By the way, he's only twenty six.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
So is he nearly only twenty six?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Jesus.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
So the bigger issue I think you would have DeAndre
eating above anything else, is whether or not he's actually
available to play, because more often than not he's not.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
He played less. He played forty games last year.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Consider this, he's twenty six, he played forty games. Chris
Paul was thirty nine. He played in all eighty two
games last year.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And both those guys are name Game Award winner.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Exactly, both of them.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So that shows you that Fred doesn't have a type
all right, He's willing to give the award to anybody,
no discrimination.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
For Fred.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Will you play, will you not play? You can be
the name game of ward winning for.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Twenty Kevin, you're telling me in the past three years,
every year he's played fewer games.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
So yeah, So if I go back to twenty twenty one,
which I think it was the year the Sun's made
the finals, he played fifty eight, then sixty seven, then
fifty five, then forty.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
He's never played a full season.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Nope, the most he ever played was his rookie season.
He plays seventy one games.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
That's the guy. That's the guy.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I mean, I don't get a get I don't know
what the issue is.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
There's no issue.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
So the guy can't he can't have hobbies.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
No, I understand, he deserves to have hobbies.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
He's got to be obsessive about the sport the entirety
of the season. The guy can't. Can't have hobbies, like
he's got other things he's got to do. I mean,
for Christ's sake, like this town is all of a
sudden averse to any big man who likes extra curriculars.
Andrew Biden almost ripped his knee up again and bowling.
(31:01):
He was at a lucky strike one time sometime. And
then remember like he was out there bowling when he
was recovering from some knee injury like his dislocated kneecap
or whatever it was that he was going through. So
I mead, look, as long as DeAndre Ayton doesn't park
illegally in a handicapped spot like Andrew Binham used to,
I think that's progress.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And do you remember that Andrew Binum almost slammed Joel
Grover's hand in the door. What do you mean Joel
Grover caught him?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
This is when Andrew Biden was parking in handicap spaces, right, yeah, yeah,
that was around that whole thing, right, And Joe Grover
caught him doing it.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Right and ran up to him with a microphone. He
alo smashed his hand in the door. Remember Kwame Brown,
he couldn't remember, He couldn't hold onto anything. The Lakers
Center that threw him the ball, They had him right
in a face.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Oh the story about the birthday cake that he tried
to throw out somebody but I slipped out of his hands. Yes,
I say, now we're going to be part of another
Kwame Brown like Twitter rant or whatever. If he's still
doing those.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Then you don't want that smoke. No, he like he was,
he was willing to get he was anybody could get
it from Kwame Brown about a year ago. He was
lighting everybody on fire about a year or so ago.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
So the Lakers are in a position now where they
have to get a big guy. By the way, what
why did Mark Williams end up in Phoenix? Why was
he healthy for them but not for the Lakers?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That damn physical?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, what happened there? They certainly thought he was healthy enough.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I mean, maybe he's not the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
So who I thought Clint Capella was a choice? Wasn't
he a possibility to He's out there, his name is
out there, but they're zeroing in on the who else
wants DeAndre Yaton? Is there any market for him?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I mean, a twenty six year old center who was
averaging sixteen and ten when he's healthy. Probably, I'm sure
there's a market somewhere.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Hey, Fred, you only have to convince one. It's like marriage, Like,
how many weirdos do you find out away? You come
to No, I won't go to your wedding. What do
you mean wedding? You just need one. You just got
to convince one. So look, and by the way, for
the record, here and I will I'm going to be
teamed DeAndre Ayton here. Okay, career sixteen and eleven guy
(33:20):
in his career, that's in his career now. Does it
feel like it's trending downward? Yes, but if we're looking
at it overall, because we're not going to get caught
up in the minutia of one year at a time,
A sixteen eleven.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Guy, I'd like to get caught up in the minutia.
What did you do last year?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Well, it's interesting you bring that up. Last year was
tied for a career worst in points per game, but
still averaging ten rebounds a game and he did that
in a dead sprint through forty games.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Well, yeah, he did it. And what average rebound wise?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Ten?
Speaker 1 (33:57):
You said ten rebounds ten rebounds a game, okay? And
career worst in points tied for career worst okay. And
what is his career worst.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Fourteen point four?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Okay. So she's a bottom line Laker fans. They don't
really need him to score. They need him to protect
the rim and rebound.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And he probably only played half the season last year
because he was exhausted trying to be the go to score.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, that knock him about, knock him back a little bit.
There's no question about that.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
All right, well, free agency begins in sixteen minutes. I'm
gonna check my phone for alerts.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I bet basketball gods, Please, for the love of content
on this station, please let DeAndre and side with the Lakers, please.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Jonas, so that Fred can have a red ass. But
I saw this last night that he was agreeing to
a buyout. That's the first thing I thought of the
last night. I hope, pray he signed with the Lakers.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Thinks so much better. All right, well, the clock is sicken.
We'll start finding out in sixteen minutes. All right, how
much time? Yeah, we'll do it. If we had some
one place to go for lunch, I've got just a spot.
We'll talk about it when we come back.
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Speaker 1 (35:39):
All right, Jonas Nxen today for Rodney, a reminder or
a note for you. Tomorrow, we're giving away tickets to
see Wednesday's Dodger game at the Stadium against the White Sox.
Clayton Kershaw pitching that day, and we'll likely get three
thousand strikeouts. So we'll be giving those tickets away tomorrow
before we get out of here. Because I teased it,
(36:00):
I don't know how you feel about it. These folks
that work together in a business. I like to go
out and have lunch. That's fine. Your colleagues are friends.
Do they run down to the salad shop or you know,
the restaurant down the street. No, they pack their lunch
and they go sit in a cemetery and need it. Now,
it's not like anybody they know is buried there, but
the cemetery is nearby. They consider it peaceful and tranquil,
(36:24):
and so they sit in the cemetery and need lunch.
Somebody's in the cemetery visiting the grave of a loved one,
and they find that offensive that people are sitting there
eating lunch. In the cemetery that have no one buried
in the cemetery. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Well, I mean do they have chairs taken out or are
they just in the car having a sandwich? Just you know,
I think there's you know, there's there's got to be
some particulars here that need to be sorted.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
But they sitting on benches and stuff in the I mean.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Look, maybe they don't want to. I mean, if you
don't want to be in a noisy place where the
people around you are making a bunch of chaotic sounds
while they're eating and stuff clanking together like glassware and silverware,
I mean, you don't have to worry about that at
a cemetery. I like the approach and if it's peaceful
enough and nice enough. Who cares if they have anybody
(37:15):
buried there or not? What does that matter? I mean
maybe they do and they just didn't know about it.
And it's often to the distance. But you know, a
relative getting upset because somebody's said, I got news for you.
That chili dog they're ripping through at noon on a
weekday next to one of your relatives who passed away.
(37:36):
That's not going to hurt anybody's situation that's currently taking
an app there, you know what I mean, Like, nothing
is going to happen bad to them because they're having
a lunch or a bite to eat there at that time.
I don't see a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
And you know what's interesting, I found out there are
a lot of people that do that, and I had
no idea it's a thing. Yeah, a lot of people
eat in the cemetery. They consider it relaxing and uh, peaceful,
and they're certainly not disturbing anyone.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
I mean, listen, it would be different if you were like, hey,
you want to get lunch show what are you guys thinking?
The park down the street? Now, let's go to the morgue.
That's different. Yeah, that's different. Like I'm not you know,
I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to
be you know, I don't want a bag of pretzels
and then be staring at somebody's toe tag Like that's
that's different. But a cemetery, it's a beautiful place. And
(38:32):
as long as they're being respectful, you know, like if
they I mean, if they set up a bounce house
and had at a birthday party there, then that's an issue. Yes,
that's a problem. That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, And you know, really, when you look at it
like that, lunch is one thing, but you should not
throw birthday parties, barbecues, things like that.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Apparently I'm looking it up now that that was not
uncommon until recently. People would have picnics at family plots,
they'd celebrate birthdays and other occasions.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
But the difference was the thing. But the difference is
in the scenario these people didn't know anybody.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Oh yeah, there's a chilling. They just you know, got
a seat and started eating their sandwich.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Right, I mean, what what if you put a fake
headstone so that if anybody stopped by and said, hey,
what's with the bounce house and you know, the people
running around and Lucha libra mask it's like, oh, well
we're here to celebrate a loss, you know, and it's
it's a fake headstone you could make. I mean that's
an option.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Well, yeah, it's a bit extreme that.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
It's probably cheaper than a park. Some parks charged by
the hour if you want to rent out an establishment
like that, So at least here make a fake headstone.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Do parks charge?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I had no idea. Yeah, So when I'm driving to
Dodger Stadium, if I'm going to go in the main
gate and i'm and I see all the people out
there and they're barbecuing, and you know, they're all out
there running around and having parties and stuff. They have
to pay for that.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Uh, that one probably not. But if you want to
have an enclosed area that's just for you and your party. Uh,
there are parks at charge.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I know that, but you're frequenting much higher level of
parks than I do.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Well, listen, I mean, like I told you Fred off
the twenty three, it's a whole different world.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Sure I've heard that. Yeah, I've heard it all right. Well, Jonas,
thanks for hanging today, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Thanks for having me. Unlet's do it again tomorrow, Fred, we.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Will, Ronnie, thank you, Kevin, thank you. Free Agency begins
in two minutes. The DeAndre eight and Saga will follow
it up tomorrow