June 4, 2026 • 44 mins
Ohtani held the D-Backs to 2 hits while racking up 3 hits himself in a dominant 7-0 Dodgers win last night. Dave Roberts says that its a lazy narrative when people say that the Dodgers are simply spending their way to success.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, here we go, fred Rogan, Rodney Peter, a
two hour show on a five to seventy LA Sports.
We have two sets of Dodgers Angels tickets. What oh yeah?
And that ain't all. We have two Gray's Craze gift
cards to give away. Are we doing all of this
today in a two hour show? Wow? Rodney, we got
(00:23):
a lot of stuff to give away. Wow?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Wow, wet come on, Freddy, what are we doing? Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We have one pair of tickets and a gift card.
And then we have one pair of tickets and a
gift card. So what we're doing is giving away two things.
You get the ticket and the gift card. Okay, is
that correct? That is correct? I get it right now.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Laughing is like the radio spell check that you have
on your computer to just checks as things come out
of your mouth.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Is like sitting there. Go ahead. Okay, that's wrong, that's wrong,
that's wrong. That's right. Okay, Okay, we're good.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We're not getting with eight pairs of tickets today, and
no we're not giving away.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We're giving away two things. We're giving away a set
of Dodgers Angels tickets, and on top of that, a
craze Graves Graze gift card, and we're doing that twice.
Either way, we're giving a lot of stuff aways. We
want you to stay with us on the program today
and the Saltier Adam Alson is gonna jump on here
at one.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Of Oh we haven't heard from the Saltier. Yeah, Saltier
is coming on.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
What's he been doing? I wonder what he's been up to,
Just taking care of his life, doing his business. But
the Salty come on and we'll talk some NBA. All right,
uh Otani does it again. So you know, as we
started yesterday, we talked about Arizona's no no pushover. They're
the answer backs. They're in every game. You can never
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count them out. And the Dodgers just put it on
them last night. And O'tani continued his incredible magic roll
last night. He went six innings, struck out six, and
allowed two hits. He also had three hits at the plate.
He lowered his ERA to zero point seven four. Only
one Maraschell and Jacob Degram have had an ERA this
(02:15):
low through ten starts. What can you say about that? Well?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I was gonna say, just let him pitch this year.
You know, there was one year where he had. You know,
he just hit and he went fifty to fifty, right,
he didn't pitch at all, and he had fifty home
runs and fifty stolen bases, So it's like, okay, he
didn't need to pitch anymore. This year he got a
point seven to four ERA and through ten starts, so
(02:45):
just let him pitch. And then Reddy, there was a
whole debate of whether he should hit when he pitches,
give him a break when he pitches, give him a
day off after he pitches, and he'll be fine. But
what does he do Freddie? He pitches six scoreless innings
(03:06):
and also gets three hits. So the whole notion of
he can't hit and pitch at the same time, he's
blowing it out the window. He's letting you know, I
want to do both. So the thought process of I
need a break or you need to not hit me
when I'm pitching, He's letting them know I'm still young
(03:28):
enough to do it, and now I can do both.
I can do both. That's what I was built to do,
So let me do both. Three hits yesterday, six scoreless innings,
why not?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Why not? I get it every now and then?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You know, you give him a break after he pitches,
or you don't hit him. You know, maybe every other start.
But I think in a regular basis he wants to
hit and pitch. It's one thing. You know, it's a
thing too as a pitcher. If he's given up hits,
there's a motivation factor. And this goes back to when
(04:03):
they played Little League. If you give up a hit
or home run and you're a pitcher and you're you're
pissed off, you get to take it out at the plate. Okay,
they got me, and now I'm gonna get them. I
think that little league mentality still is in o Tani.
It's like, if he strikes out, I'm gonna strike out
the side. If they get a hit off of him
or home run off of him, then he's gonna go
(04:23):
hit a home run. So it's that competitive balance when
he's pitching. I think that he loves and thrives on.
I wouldn't continue this on a regular basis. Yeah, I
give him breaks from time to time, but I would
allow him to still have a good, steady dose of
pitching and hitting at the same time.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Okay, I heard everything you said. I thought it was
all said. I don't know why you had to convolute
the whole thing. I don't even know why you have
to say that. I gotta back. I can just sum
it up like this. Let him do whatever he wants.
How about that, Let him do whatever he wants.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, well, so you say, wake up this morning, how
you feel? Oh you good? When it hit today?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah? You got it? Yeah, that's exactly how I would
do it. Let him do whatever he wants. Maybe he
shouldn't pitch when he hits. Maybe he shouldn't hit when
he pitches my room. How about this, Do whatever you want,
and it will just be here to keep you in check.
If you look like you're draggon, we're gonna take one
away from you. It'll be hitting that night. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But it's not setting stone or anything like that. It's
just how you feel it. Yeah, how you feeling today?
I'm a good all right, go, how you feeling I'm good.
Know you're lying, so we're not gonna let you hit tonight.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Right. We know when your lying does, we can tell.
We know you. I mean you're dragging your left foot
where you know you're not hitting and pitching. I mean,
it's that simple. Let him do whatever he wants just
take it day.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
By day how you think, or or just if you
want to regulate, they say, okay, every other start you're
you're not hitting. Every other start, you're not hitting, and
that keeps it somewhat on a regular basis as they
roll into September October. So it's not going, you know,
three weeks of Okay, he's pitching for three weeks and
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he's got four starts in those three weeks, and he
hasn't hit while he pitches. Now he's going to try
to go hit again after being off for four weeks
or four starts. No, that doesn't work either, because you
definitely you definitely want him hitting when he's pitching in
the playoffs. You're not gonna take the bat out of
his hand just because he's on the mound in the playoffs,
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because again I believe that's the competitiveness in him and
the incentive it is okay, you got me, I'm about
to get you if.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
He's on the mount.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
So I would not take that away from and it's
okay during the regular season, say every other start, or
like you said, hey, look, you know we had a
ten day road trip and we played eight games in
ten days and you pitched in one of those, so
let's just take a day off when you're pitching this trip.
(06:51):
And they would have to force him to do that
because Fred, you know, he's not gonna say it. He's
not gonna say, oh, yeah, you know what, I don't
want to hit today. He's still thinking he wants to
hit fifty home runs this year.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
His batting average now is over three hundred, so I
mean quietly though. That's the thing about it. It's quiet.
He's hitting three hundred. I think he's got what eleven
or ten home runs. He's hitting three hundred, he's got
an era of zero point seventy four, and it's quiet.
(07:25):
It's kind of like, oh huh hum, I guess because
we're used to him having about twenty home runs at
this point in the season, but he's got ten and
still on pace for forty. So I mean, I don't know.
I don't know what else he can do. You know,
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Rodney, you know what this is and why it's quiet.
It's expectation. Yeah, you see, he's expected to do this.
He's superhuman. He's expected to do this. That's why if
he goes old for twelve or old for six at
the plate, people are gonna want the hell's wrong with him.
You're not expected to do that. You are expected. If
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you say you're going to win the cy young, you
are expected to have an ERA of zero point seventy four.
We expect that. You said that, Yeah, if you're going
to lead the league at home runs, well it's not
a big deal. We expect that. Uh, if you're gonna
lead the league in stolen bases, if that's what you're saying,
(08:26):
we expect that. Yeah. So that's why it seems so quiet,
right because.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It is kind of like, oh yeah, it's kind of like, okay,
that first year I'm coming off Tommy John, I'm not
gonna pitch, Okay, I know that's why you signed me
for seven hundred million dollars. But let me give you
something else that that shows that I am worth of it.
I'm gonna go fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's like, Okay, I'm gonna go fifty to fifty. I'm
not pitching, but I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show
you why I'm worth seven hundred. I'm gonna go fifty
to fifty. And is when I start pitching again, then
I'm gonna go. Like you said, this year, I want
to win a Cy Young and he's on pace to
do that. If it ended today, he would win. He
would be the Cy Young winner. Yes, without question. So
(09:14):
it is. It's it's pretty incredible because he is a
guy that puts his mind to whatever he can do.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And you're right when he goes over.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Four in a game or he's on a you know,
a hitting slump, and it doesn't feel like he's got
hit his stride yet. He's heating up, but it doesn't
feel like he's really hit his stride like he did,
you know, the last couple of years where he was
fifty home run guy and he was just a monster
at the plate. Doesn't feel that way yet. He's sitting
three hundred. He's sitting three hundred and pitching.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So it's it is.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I think we're spoiled Fred in more ways than one
of a guy that can can do both. But here's
the thing. I know people are saying, you know, and
want to crown him as the best ever already, but
I think he still got some time to go to
to have that crown. I was thinking about this this
(10:11):
morning I wanted to ask you, do you think that
it is. I don't want to say unfair, but I
want to say it's different here in the States because
he has been allowed and that's how he came to
the States as a pitcher and hitter and did that
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from the time he was in high school growing up,
basically did it when he played in Japan and came
over here with the stipulation I'm going to pitch and hit.
Where you have in the States, so many guys that
do that all the way through Little League, high school,
even college that don't get the opportunity because in the
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States it's so specialized now that even to the point
where they don't want kids playing multiple sports from the
high school on that kids don't get the opportunity to
be a pitcher and hitter in the States as opposed
to coming from Japan or someplace else. Well, I mean,
(11:13):
not everybody in Japan's a pitcher and a hitter either, No,
but if you can, it's promoted and it's celebrated and
they allow you to do it. Whereas I think in
the States, if you're a phenom high school player that
pitches and hits, you go to college or you get drafted,
they're going to pick one.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You're not gonna do both. Pick one.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Either you're gonna play shortstop or you're gonna be our pitcher.
Prime example is our guy Hunter Green from from here
in LA went to Notre Dame High School in the
valley right. If you people haven't not most people haven't.
But I had a chance to see him play in
high school at Notre Dame. I had friends over there
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that were on the team. He was a tremendous shortstop.
Trum mend this shortstop and if drafted as a shortstop,
would have been a top three pick as well. Could hit,
could field, was just fluid at shortstop. But he also
threw one hundred miles an hour in high school. So
oftentimes pitching wins out. When a guy can pitch and
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throw that that kind of velocity, pitching wins out, and
that's the role that they go. But had he been
allowed to play both and do both, he very well
could have been successful as a regular player or a
DH and pitch as well. Same thing, the same thing
with the D and college. I think they do DH
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and college.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Do they have that? Yeah, yeah they do. Fine. If
I'm a great pitcher, and I'm pitching in college. I
just tell the coach when I get there, I can
also hit four hundred. I want to be the DH No, okay,
I we'll go to schooler. You could, but oftentimes they
don't get you. They don't allow you to do that. Well,
(13:05):
you know what, if you can play, you should ask
that question. I want to, but the mentality is discouraged
in college.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I did with a guy.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I played with a guy who was two time All
Star never hit when I was there, for he was
younger than I was, but for two years he was there,
never hit. His name was Jeff Cirillo. Jeff, Yes, Jeff
Cirillo couldn't see the field as a defensive player, but
he was one of our starting pitchers as a freshman
(13:37):
in sophomore. I didn't know this, yes, And then eventually
they say, well, you know, this guy's a pretty good
hitter too, so let's let him hit and play in
a position. And he dated and he hit as well.
It turned out that he went and play in the
big leagues as a position player and a hitter and
made two All Stars and and you know, at over
(14:00):
one hundred home run I mean, he was he was
fans to add a great career in MLB, but came
to US as a two way player to begin with,
but only pitched for those first two years and then
they allowed him to hit, and was like, wait a minute,
he can play.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
He could do both.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Great third baseman, and he turned into a third baseman
in Major League Baseball. But he was a very good
pitcher in college. He was one of our starters in
coming at USC. My friend Larry Zucker just touxted me.
Mark Kotze did both when he played at cal State Fullerton.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
He did both.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, I remember Markotzi absolutely, So it's not impossible.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But I think as the player, you just have to ask.
You just have to say I want to do it. Well,
we're not gonna let you. Well, then I won't go
to school here. I'm a pretty good athlete. I'm a
good pitcher and I'm a good hitter. Let me be
the DH or let me play the outfield. Well I'm
not pitching. If you say no, you've got to demand it.
You don't go there. Absolutely right, that's what you and
that will turn the tide. Some guys, maybe a few
(15:01):
will be able to really pull it off. Yeah, but
a few will be enough to get people to start
thinking differently. Yeah, you know, I was upset with Oral
last night. Can I tell him? Okay, okay, I was upset.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I was watching the game. By the way, real quick.
Congratulations the Oral opening his new car car dealership. He's
got the Oral Herscheiser Chevrolet. I know those guys, Legend
act guys. He opened up his dealership. They had a
big opening. A lot of people came out. I think
it was over five thousand people came out and showed
up for Orals. Now he's a he's a car salesman now, Oral,
(15:34):
I know he did the commercials over before, but now
he's got his own place with his name on it.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So congratulations, Orl Did you say, no, he's a car
salesman now is that what you said? I didn't say
used car salesman? Now, No, you said, I said car salesman. Right,
you said he's a car salesman. Now he's always been
a car salesman. That's always Fred said that.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Oral.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I didn't or listen to the show. Now you know,
I know he's in Phoenix. That's why I'm gonna talk
about him, because he's not less. No, but I was
upset with him last night. So O'tanni, you know, leads
off the game and gets on and the Dodgers get
out in the top of the first and now he's
got to go out there and pitch. So to be honest,
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at the beginning of the game, I mean, animals hit
Perdomo twice, yes, almost hit him twice, three times. Three times.
He almost hit him. Mat Omo was playing, he was
tap dancing at the plate. If I'm Perdomo, I'm like,
what the hell's going on here? Tart was playing. Otani's pitching.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We're at home, and he has to lead off first
and then run to the dugout and get on the mound.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't want to lead off today. I'm not gonna
lead off. Okay, that's my point, Rodney, And that's why
I was mad at Oral. Okay, so Otani is out there,
and quite frankly, he's all over the place. I mean,
he almost hits him a couple of times. Then he
can't find the strike, so then he's fine. Oral starts
with let me tell you how how difficult this is?
(17:02):
Can you imagine how difficult this is? I mean, he's
on base, he's got a run, off base. He's got
to go into the dugout. Then he's got to get
his glove, then he's got to get his hat. That
he's got to turn around. He's got to run back,
get back to the mound and start warming up. He said,
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you have no idea how difficult that is. I mean
you have to understand that he's got to get loose,
and I mean, given everything he had to do. When
I was going or stop stop, I'm thinking to myself,
don't make this like, you know, a major world event.
(17:46):
I got an idea. How about this If it's so
taxing for him to run in And that's what he said,
He's got to go in and get his stuff. And
I'm like, all right, Otani's on bass, one of the
bad boys.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Somebody grab I'm so glad you said that. What I
was thinking the same thing. Why when they're on the road,
why do they not have it all ready for him
so he does not have to come to the dugout.
Somebody's running it out to the mound, has all his stuff,
whatever he needs. He just casually walks to the mound.
Everybody takes they do it. When somebody just walks to
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first base, you know, somebody runs the first base and
get their elbow gear and their shin guards and all
that stuff. But Otani, somebody should bring out even have
they have to bring out a whole you know, travel bag,
a roller bag, if you will, fred to the pitcher's
mound to give him everything he needs so he does
not have to go back to the dugout and then
run back out to the mound. I'm one hundred percent
(18:48):
with you on that.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, So I'm listening to this going, no, this is
not this difficult. It's just not this hard. Just have
somebody have his stuff. I'll meet the mound, meet you
on the mound. I'll save you the steps. Don't even
worry about.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It or even you know, like they do with the
other guys, the position players. If Max Munsey's on base,
Mookie Betts has got Max's stuff to bring out to him.
If Kyle Tucker is on base and this three outs,
Andy Paie has is bringing Kyle Tucker's stuff to him
so he doesn't have to run all the way back
in the dugout before he goes back to right field.
That's just the way it's always been done. So why
(19:25):
not with why is this so hard. That's the thing
I couldn't figure out.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I mean, is he superstitious he's got to go in
the dug out a certain way and touch the wall
and bend over and grab his hand.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I mean what you're doing right now? Now you're playing
into Craig Council. Now you're playing into his argument. See
see there you go into the favorable treatment. That's gonna
be his argument. Why couldn't somebody bring it? Why does
he need extra time? Why does he need extra time
(19:57):
if he's pitching, nobody else gets it? See there you go.
Now you're playing into it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
No, I'm just well, okay, I didn't realize I was
doing that, But I'm just saying. Listening to Oral, I mean,
honest to God, after you heard Oral, I thought o'tani
was gonna go out and perform open heart surgery. You'll
have to understand how difficult this is. And you know,
one thing and the time require it's not out there.
(20:26):
It's not like he's out there performing brain surgery. Somebody
bring him his glove in his hat, go warm up.
You made the point. If Kyle Tucker's on second base
and the inning ends, does Kyle Tucker run from second
base to the dugout, get his hat and his glove,
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turn around and run the right field. Would that make
any sense to anyone? No. They bring him his hat
and his glove and he goes, yeah, well then oh
his there's nobody allowed to Maybe he's superstitious. You can't
touch his glove. I don't know, but it's not this
big of a deal. And then don't sit there and
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make excuses. Oh my god, do you have any idea
how difficult this is? No? I actually don't. I don't
have any idea how difficult this is. I mean, it's
not like he's running two hundred miles in the sun
in the desert. I mean, give him a padding glove.
I'm sorry, but he said that last night. I was like, Oral,
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come on, come on, it's like, really, there's a solution
what you're saying, Fred, Yeah, just come here and do it.
It's not that hard. All right, Now we solve the
problems of the world. Oh now we have to get
(21:55):
to this next. The Dodgers are lazy, so we better
talk about that next.
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Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh yes, coming back on a throwback Thursday, Rodney Pete,
Fred Rogan. You know they say in Game of Thrones
winter is coming, Freddie in La summer is here?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Is hot today? Is it feels good though? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, let me tell you something. It was hot early too.
I was out early with the dogs. Man, it was
warm early.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah. You have no idea what hot is? I know,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You don't have the slight at where we are now. Yeah,
we talked about Arizona and Phoenix yesterday. Where you are
now is exactly the same thing. Yeah, you have no clue.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
What did I hear? Joe Davison the game last night
said it was about three hundred degrees outside.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Come on, Joe, imagine if that was an open air stadium. Well,
they can open it up. I know they can open
it up, and they do when they can, but not
in the summer time, not in the summertime.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
They can't do that. See imagine, now look at it
like this, and I'm glad you bring this up. Let's
look at it like this for a second. We believe
that all stadiums built in this country should be domed. Yes,
so far is kind of like a fake dome. There's
a top on it at least. Yeah, but it's open
air around, right, and it's translucent. Is that what you
(23:53):
call it?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
When the sunlight comes into roof, you know, it's open,
so the sunlight can penetrate the roof if they need
it to be. So it feels like you're outside, but
you're inside.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Right, So it's covered. It's not really a dome, but
it's covered all right, Phoenix. Because it is one hundred
and fifteen degrees in the summer, the folks they're realized, well,
that's not going to be conducive for fans showing up
to play and watch baseball. They put a dome on
it to protect it from the heat. Now you look
(24:23):
at what Buffalo is doing. I know we touched on
it before. Buffalo is opening their new stadium this season.
Everybody's very excited. Beautiful, beautiful, and they didn't put a
dome on it. Now they covered the fans a little bit,
so that's a little different. But they didn't put a
(24:44):
dome on it. And I know the argument, well, it
will cost more, and if you put a dome on it,
you know you want to host events. And who the
hell's coming to Buffalo for the Final four? Right? You know, Oh,
we're going to have the national whatever convention. No one's
going to Buffalo. So they figured, why should we even
put a top on it. We're not gonna get a
lot of business in here, so why waste the money?
(25:06):
That thinking is so stupid. What a miss, what a
total disaster. Well we think that these these teams should
brave the elements. Why why would you think that, Well,
it's part of the game. Actually no it's not. No,
it's not part of the game. Falling down in the snow.
(25:27):
I understand. That used to be the game. And we
used to have rotary phones, and people used to tell
us never get into a car with a stranger, and
now we get into ubers all the time. Yeah, or
never take food from someone you don't know, and now
we have Postmates, right, I understand. Oh, where this myth
(25:49):
came out?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That that oh this, we have an advantage because of
the elements, and we play in Buffalo, we play in
Green Bay, and they never pull the players right. The
players would be telling you, no, I'd rather play in
a control seventy two degrees environment than play outside and
wind circling and the snow, especially when player. It's not
(26:10):
like all the players in Buffalo grew up in Buffalo,
so they're used to it since they were two years old.
Yet players coming from Miami and in California and Arizona,
you know, eout Caleb Williams coming from California and playing
at USC. Oh, yeah, he's gonna endure the elements of Chicago.
That's why he's gonna thrive. And now he plays obviously
plays well. But if you ask him, I want to
(26:32):
play inside. I play in a dome where it's controlled.
You know, it's not. This whole advantage thing is just
that's a fan myth. And I remember Green Bay fans
used to go cheer because they would announce the temperature
like every thirty minutes as it dropped it is now
two degrees, and the fans would go crazy like it
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was gonna affect the other team. It affects your team too.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
By the way, the thing is, you know, since these
people think they're on the team basically, yeah, despite the
fact they don't get paid, they have to pay to
go to the game. Yeah, you know, this is a
test of our manhood in Green Bay, Rodney. This shows
who we are. We're tough. We're not like everybody else. No,
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there's something wrong with you. It's not. No, you're not
like everybody else. There's something wrong with you. If I could,
I'd sit out here for eight hours and the temperature
is three degrees. Why what are you trying to prove?
What does that make you a man? Or insane? Why
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would you do that if you had to? Yeah, I
mean think about it, right, Why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
What would be billion dollars on a stadium and you're
gonna you're not gonna cover it if you're in Buffalo
or Chicago or Green Bay or anywhere else. They got
Chicago's covering their new stadium. But man, I don't understand
what Buffalo's.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Doing anybody that builds one anybody. Now, baseball is different.
I get that you played most most of the time
in good weather. I mean you may have some bad
weather to start the season, in March in some places,
but and maybe in the World Series October you get
to start of some cold weather. But you're not gonna
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it's not gonna be elements like December January. Like football,
you know you're gonna really be into it. You may
catch it a little bit, but baseball for the most part,
is played in the time of year where you can
have outdoor stadiums and it's and it's cool, like you
wouldn't even if you're in cold weather, you wouldn't want to.
You know, you don't always want to dome baseball stadium
(28:46):
like Dodger Stadium. A team in La, you wouldn't dome
the Dodgers or the Angels, you know in La gotta
do Arizona and the New A's facility in Vegas, you
gotta dome it because it gets too hot and nobody
will show up if you outdoors at one hundred and fifteen.
But baseball is one of the y is the few
(29:06):
sports that yeah, you can you still need want an
outdoor stadium, Yeah, unless you never want to rain out.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah yeah, Seattle, right, Seattle would be great.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Even Mets red side, they'll never know. Fenway is a
historical monument, so they'll never do anything to that. No,
But if you're building a new stadium, you know, be
able to afford it and afford it the right way.
You know. That's like building a house, but you scrimp
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on the roof. Would you build a house without a roof?
Would you? Well, it's normally really nice. So we don't
need a roof on our house until you do, And
then what will you do building day southern California? Fred?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So, why do I need a roof? Except for fifty
times a year that it rains and then you're flooded.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, except for when it rains it really rains, or
when it becomes one hundred and ten degrees and that
can't happen here in southern California, or when it gets
down to thirty degrees. Well, I'm just gonna I'm muh,
I feel like I'm in Green Bay. I'm gonna just
gut this out. Why Why is the question? Why? Why?
(30:30):
What do you prove it? Who you prove of it to?
We'll show you. Yeah, you're showing us, all right, you're
showing us your issues. Okay, So Bob Night and Gale
spoke with Dave Roberts and several Dodger players about the
perception that they simply outspend people to win. Isn't it
funny When you work here and you follow things as
closely as we do, you understand that they have more money.
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But that's not why they win. You understand they have
more money, yes, and if they make a mistake, they
can fix it. That's true. That's not why they win.
It's not about they outspend everybody. And Dave Roberts basically
called that thinking lazy. It's a lazy narrative, and it's true.
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Let me give you an example. So when well, you
want to use the three Japanese players, Yeah, okay, Yamamoto.
Yamamoto's up for grabs. Anybody can have him. Anybody can
have him. So he looks at every team, and to
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be fair, other teams were willing to pay what the
Dodgers were. Other teams were in it, Rodney, Yes, So
if other teams are willing to spend the same amount
of money you are, yet you end up with the player.
Is it about the money? Is it about the money
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or is it about the culture, the organization, the system,
the facilities, the way they're treated. The coaching staff is
it about that or is it just about the money,
because the money was basically the same and at that
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price point ten million dollars difference is basically the same.
Let's talk about Otani. Otani met with a number of teams,
and we know they were willing to spend Rodney. They
weren't cheaping out of the Angels, of course did but
other teams were not cheaping out.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
They were there. No, they were ready Toronto. They had
him signed with Toronto. Right, the plane has landed. The
plane landed in Toronto, didn't it. He and his dog
were landing in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
So they had it. But he signed with the Dodgers.
Why why? Now, let's look at Sazaki. He could have
signed with anybody, and there was only so much money
he could make.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, he came early to take a cut to come
play for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He could have signed anywhere Rodney, Yeah, with any team
in Major League Baseball. He signed with the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Why And it wasn't close to about being about money
because he couldn't get paid like Yamamoto because of his
years of service in Japan yet, so he couldn't get
paid that three hundred three fifty million dollars. So, yeah,
he was very affordable for anybody in the league. Right,
Why did he pick the Dodgers? The money was the same.
(33:51):
Anybody could have had them for that money. Why did
he pick the Dodgers. He wanted them to teach him
how to be the best pitcher ever, and he said
that that's what he wanted. Yes, well, that tells me
that the other teams, in his mind, couldn't make that happen.
And when people say it's just about the amount of
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money they spend Kyle Tucker, Kyle Tucker would have made
more money from the Mets. Now, the Dodgers gave it
to him in condensed form, but he could have signed
a long term deal, more years with the Mets and more. Yeah, absolutely,
he could have signed a long term deal. He picked
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the Dodgers. Was that because of the.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Money other teams offered him more he picked the Dodgers. Obviously,
it's just about the money. It's not about the money.
And Dave Roberts is right, that is a lazy narrative.
It's what you say when you don't have the organization
(34:59):
to come pete, And that doesn't mean money wise on
the field. I don't know how many times we have
to say this. What you see when you go to
Dodger Stadium is the major league roster. That's what you see,
the major league roster, the major league coaches, the major
league manager, the major league players. That's what you see.
(35:21):
But you don't see the back room. You don't get
to see that. You don't get to see all of
the people that work together to ensure the major league
roster is in the conversation every year you see. That's
where the other teams fall short. That's where they don't invest.
(35:44):
It's easy to say, well, these guys have all the money,
but that's not it. It's what's going on behind door number three,
and you don't get to see that. The number of people,
what they do, how they work together, the minor league system,
everything that goes into that. That's where the Dodgers are
spending the money. If you want the truth, I don't
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have anybody's books. I have no idea, But I doubt
you'll argue this with me. They invest more money on
the infrastructure, everything besides the roster than any team in baseball.
I will bet you that right now. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
And if it's just about the money, how do you
explain Milwaukee, How do you explain Tampa Bay? How do
you explain Cleveland? Those are a well run organization. Milwaukee
is one of the best run organizations in baseball. And
it's why they're in the conversation on a regular basis.
Tampa Bay where Andrew Friedman came from, it's the reason
why they're in the conversation on a regular basis. Made
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the World Series not too long ago. And same thing
with Cleveland leading the division. And then you look up
in the Mets are fifteen games out with the payroll
they have, So is it about the money with the Mets?
You know, the Phillies are struggling. Toronto a team that
was in the World Series last year, high payroll, top
(37:07):
five payroll, they're struggling. Is it Is it just about
the money with them? And it's not. And that is
a lazy argument because to the point of everything you
said about the infrastructure and the people that work for
the organization, it's more than just spending money. It's how
you spend it.
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Given another one of those away next hour. Okay, now,
the story of calling nine one one. You ever had
to call nine one one?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I haven't, actually, fred, I've not had to call it. No, okay,
knock on wood, yeah, right, and hopefully you never will.
But nine to one one is for what emergency? Yes,
if you have an emergency, you call nine one one right,
all right, So here's the deal. You tell me if
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this constitutes as an emergency. There's a woman.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
And she calls nine one one. She's got a problem,
she needs help. She was at a place called the
Nowhere Bar in Ocalla, Florida. So she's in trouble. She
calls nine to one one. He says, get out here
(40:30):
and help me, all right, you gotta call like that,
and you're at a bar. You go, I mean, you
don't know what coulda happen to this woman. You could
have been attacked, somebody could try to beat her up,
steal from her. There could have been an altercation. So
(40:51):
they do send a deputy out there, because they're not
gonna take this lightly, of course not. The deputy gets
there and he doesn't really see a commotion or a problem.
So he's thinking to himself, maybe maybe it's over, but
now I better find who called to make sure they're okay.
(41:11):
So as he's walking up and he doesn't see a
disturbance of any kind, he sees a woman. The woman
is sitting at a table outside the bar. He says
to the woman, did you call nine one one? And
she said yes, I did. He goes, are you all right?
She ses, I'm okay, I'm okay. He goes, well, what
(41:32):
was the problem, I mean we rushed out here? She said, well,
the problem was they wouldn't give me a jello.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Shot, and that's why she called nine one one, and
that's why she called nine one one. She's a sixty
eight year old woman with these magic jello shots.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, well they had a little something something in them,
of course. Uh, but to call nine one one? She
called nine one one. Guy came out and she complained
that they wouldn't give her a jello shot. Hmmm, what
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kind of world were living in? Will that constitute a
nine one one call that someone would actually think? Because
you have to physically think about it and go and
consciously go, I'm going to dial nine to one one.
It's not a reaction for it. It's like I've got
to pull out my phone and I've got to dial
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nine to one one and explain why I'm why I
am dialing nine to one one.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It's not like somebody hit me and I just reacted
and hit him. It is a conscious decision to dial
nine one one because they wouldn't serve you a jello shot.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
That's right kind of whirl we live it in, Well,
the kind of world where you're arrested. So now they
arrested her for misuse of public funds. Yes, after her arrest,
they did a search and the search turned up a
small amount of marijuana and two pipes. They had her
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evaluated by the fire Department. She'd been drinking and recently
smoked pot. When she was cleared, she was taken to
jail and charged with trespassing and possession of not more
than twenty grams of marijuana. But she called nine one
(43:41):
one she had a problem. Well, she'll be released, Fred,
she'll be released, She'll get she might even she might
even get compensated by the government. All Right, when we
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come back, as we begin our second hour, we have
another set of Angels, Dodgers, Grays craze prize pack to
give away and hopefully you'll win that. The salty a
Adam Awson will join us
All right, here we go, fred Rogan, Rodney Peter, a
two hour show on a five to seventy LA Sports.
We have two sets of Dodgers Angels tickets. What oh yeah?
And that ain't all. We have two Gray's Craze gift
cards to give away. Are we doing all of this
today in a two hour show? Wow? Rodney, we got
(00:23):
a lot of stuff to give away. Wow?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Wow, wet come on, Freddy, what are we doing? Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We have one pair of tickets and a gift card.
And then we have one pair of tickets and a
gift card. So what we're doing is giving away two things.
You get the ticket and the gift card. Okay, is
that correct? That is correct? I get it right now.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Laughing is like the radio spell check that you have
on your computer to just checks as things come out
of your mouth.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Is like sitting there. Go ahead. Okay, that's wrong, that's wrong,
that's wrong. That's right. Okay, Okay, we're good.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
We're not getting with eight pairs of tickets today, and
no we're not giving away.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
We're giving away two things. We're giving away a set
of Dodgers Angels tickets, and on top of that, a
craze Graves Graze gift card, and we're doing that twice.
Either way, we're giving a lot of stuff aways. We
want you to stay with us on the program today
and the Saltier Adam Alson is gonna jump on here
at one.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Of Oh we haven't heard from the Saltier. Yeah, Saltier
is coming on.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
What's he been doing? I wonder what he's been up to,
Just taking care of his life, doing his business. But
the Salty come on and we'll talk some NBA. All right,
uh Otani does it again. So you know, as we
started yesterday, we talked about Arizona's no no pushover. They're
the answer backs. They're in every game. You can never
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count them out. And the Dodgers just put it on
them last night. And O'tani continued his incredible magic roll
last night. He went six innings, struck out six, and
allowed two hits. He also had three hits at the plate.
He lowered his ERA to zero point seven four. Only
one Maraschell and Jacob Degram have had an ERA this
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low through ten starts. What can you say about that? Well?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I was gonna say, just let him pitch this year.
You know, there was one year where he had. You know,
he just hit and he went fifty to fifty, right,
he didn't pitch at all, and he had fifty home
runs and fifty stolen bases, So it's like, okay, he
didn't need to pitch anymore. This year he got a
point seven to four ERA and through ten starts, so
(02:45):
just let him pitch. And then Reddy, there was a
whole debate of whether he should hit when he pitches,
give him a break when he pitches, give him a
day off after he pitches, and he'll be fine. But
what does he do Freddie? He pitches six scoreless innings
(03:06):
and also gets three hits. So the whole notion of
he can't hit and pitch at the same time, he's
blowing it out the window. He's letting you know, I
want to do both. So the thought process of I
need a break or you need to not hit me
when I'm pitching, He's letting them know I'm still young
(03:28):
enough to do it, and now I can do both.
I can do both. That's what I was built to do,
So let me do both. Three hits yesterday, six scoreless innings,
why not?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Why not? I get it every now and then?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You know, you give him a break after he pitches,
or you don't hit him. You know, maybe every other start.
But I think in a regular basis he wants to
hit and pitch. It's one thing. You know, it's a
thing too as a pitcher. If he's given up hits,
there's a motivation factor. And this goes back to when
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they played Little League. If you give up a hit
or home run and you're a pitcher and you're you're
pissed off, you get to take it out at the plate. Okay,
they got me, and now I'm gonna get them. I
think that little league mentality still is in o Tani.
It's like, if he strikes out, I'm gonna strike out
the side. If they get a hit off of him
or home run off of him, then he's gonna go
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hit a home run. So it's that competitive balance when
he's pitching. I think that he loves and thrives on.
I wouldn't continue this on a regular basis. Yeah, I
give him breaks from time to time, but I would
allow him to still have a good, steady dose of
pitching and hitting at the same time.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Okay, I heard everything you said. I thought it was
all said. I don't know why you had to convolute
the whole thing. I don't even know why you have
to say that. I gotta back. I can just sum
it up like this. Let him do whatever he wants.
How about that, Let him do whatever he wants.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, well, so you say, wake up this morning, how
you feel? Oh you good? When it hit today?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah? You got it? Yeah, that's exactly how I would
do it. Let him do whatever he wants. Maybe he
shouldn't pitch when he hits. Maybe he shouldn't hit when
he pitches my room. How about this, Do whatever you want,
and it will just be here to keep you in check.
If you look like you're draggon, we're gonna take one
away from you. It'll be hitting that night. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But it's not setting stone or anything like that. It's
just how you feel it. Yeah, how you feeling today?
I'm a good all right, go, how you feeling I'm good.
Know you're lying, so we're not gonna let you hit tonight.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Right. We know when your lying does, we can tell.
We know you. I mean you're dragging your left foot
where you know you're not hitting and pitching. I mean,
it's that simple. Let him do whatever he wants just
take it day.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
By day how you think, or or just if you
want to regulate, they say, okay, every other start you're
you're not hitting. Every other start, you're not hitting, and
that keeps it somewhat on a regular basis as they
roll into September October. So it's not going, you know,
three weeks of Okay, he's pitching for three weeks and
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he's got four starts in those three weeks, and he
hasn't hit while he pitches. Now he's going to try
to go hit again after being off for four weeks
or four starts. No, that doesn't work either, because you
definitely you definitely want him hitting when he's pitching in
the playoffs. You're not gonna take the bat out of
his hand just because he's on the mound in the playoffs,
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because again I believe that's the competitiveness in him and
the incentive it is okay, you got me, I'm about
to get you if.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
He's on the mount.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
So I would not take that away from and it's
okay during the regular season, say every other start, or
like you said, hey, look, you know we had a
ten day road trip and we played eight games in
ten days and you pitched in one of those, so
let's just take a day off when you're pitching this trip.
(06:51):
And they would have to force him to do that
because Fred, you know, he's not gonna say it. He's
not gonna say, oh, yeah, you know what, I don't
want to hit today. He's still thinking he wants to
hit fifty home runs this year.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh, I know.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
His batting average now is over three hundred, so I
mean quietly though. That's the thing about it. It's quiet.
He's hitting three hundred. I think he's got what eleven
or ten home runs. He's hitting three hundred, he's got
an era of zero point seventy four, and it's quiet.
(07:25):
It's kind of like, oh huh hum, I guess because
we're used to him having about twenty home runs at
this point in the season, but he's got ten and
still on pace for forty. So I mean, I don't know.
I don't know what else he can do. You know,
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Rodney, you know what this is and why it's quiet.
It's expectation. Yeah, you see, he's expected to do this.
He's superhuman. He's expected to do this. That's why if
he goes old for twelve or old for six at
the plate, people are gonna want the hell's wrong with him.
You're not expected to do that. You are expected. If
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you say you're going to win the cy young, you
are expected to have an ERA of zero point seventy four.
We expect that. You said that, Yeah, if you're going
to lead the league at home runs, well it's not
a big deal. We expect that. Uh, if you're gonna
lead the league in stolen bases, if that's what you're saying,
(08:26):
we expect that. Yeah. So that's why it seems so quiet,
right because.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It is kind of like, oh yeah, it's kind of like, okay,
that first year I'm coming off Tommy John, I'm not
gonna pitch, Okay, I know that's why you signed me
for seven hundred million dollars. But let me give you
something else that that shows that I am worth of it.
I'm gonna go fifty to fifty.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's like, Okay, I'm gonna go fifty to fifty. I'm
not pitching, but I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show
you why I'm worth seven hundred. I'm gonna go fifty
to fifty. And is when I start pitching again, then
I'm gonna go. Like you said, this year, I want
to win a Cy Young and he's on pace to
do that. If it ended today, he would win. He
would be the Cy Young winner. Yes, without question. So
(09:14):
it is. It's it's pretty incredible because he is a
guy that puts his mind to whatever he can do.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And you're right when he goes over.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Four in a game or he's on a you know,
a hitting slump, and it doesn't feel like he's got
hit his stride yet. He's heating up, but it doesn't
feel like he's really hit his stride like he did,
you know, the last couple of years where he was
fifty home run guy and he was just a monster
at the plate. Doesn't feel that way yet. He's sitting
three hundred. He's sitting three hundred and pitching.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So it's it is.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I think we're spoiled Fred in more ways than one
of a guy that can can do both. But here's
the thing. I know people are saying, you know, and
want to crown him as the best ever already, but
I think he still got some time to go to
to have that crown. I was thinking about this this
(10:11):
morning I wanted to ask you, do you think that
it is. I don't want to say unfair, but I
want to say it's different here in the States because
he has been allowed and that's how he came to
the States as a pitcher and hitter and did that
(10:32):
from the time he was in high school growing up,
basically did it when he played in Japan and came
over here with the stipulation I'm going to pitch and hit.
Where you have in the States, so many guys that
do that all the way through Little League, high school,
even college that don't get the opportunity because in the
(10:52):
States it's so specialized now that even to the point
where they don't want kids playing multiple sports from the
high school on that kids don't get the opportunity to
be a pitcher and hitter in the States as opposed
to coming from Japan or someplace else. Well, I mean,
(11:13):
not everybody in Japan's a pitcher and a hitter either, No,
but if you can, it's promoted and it's celebrated and
they allow you to do it. Whereas I think in
the States, if you're a phenom high school player that
pitches and hits, you go to college or you get drafted,
they're going to pick one.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You're not gonna do both. Pick one.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Either you're gonna play shortstop or you're gonna be our pitcher.
Prime example is our guy Hunter Green from from here
in LA went to Notre Dame High School in the
valley right. If you people haven't not most people haven't.
But I had a chance to see him play in
high school at Notre Dame. I had friends over there
(11:55):
that were on the team. He was a tremendous shortstop.
Trum mend this shortstop and if drafted as a shortstop,
would have been a top three pick as well. Could hit,
could field, was just fluid at shortstop. But he also
threw one hundred miles an hour in high school. So
oftentimes pitching wins out. When a guy can pitch and
(12:18):
throw that that kind of velocity, pitching wins out, and
that's the role that they go. But had he been
allowed to play both and do both, he very well
could have been successful as a regular player or a
DH and pitch as well. Same thing, the same thing
with the D and college. I think they do DH
(12:44):
and college.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Do they have that? Yeah, yeah they do. Fine. If
I'm a great pitcher, and I'm pitching in college. I
just tell the coach when I get there, I can
also hit four hundred. I want to be the DH No, okay,
I we'll go to schooler. You could, but oftentimes they
don't get you. They don't allow you to do that. Well,
(13:05):
you know what, if you can play, you should ask
that question. I want to, but the mentality is discouraged
in college.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I did with a guy.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I played with a guy who was two time All
Star never hit when I was there, for he was
younger than I was, but for two years he was there,
never hit. His name was Jeff Cirillo. Jeff, Yes, Jeff
Cirillo couldn't see the field as a defensive player, but
he was one of our starting pitchers as a freshman
(13:37):
in sophomore. I didn't know this, yes, And then eventually
they say, well, you know, this guy's a pretty good
hitter too, so let's let him hit and play in
a position. And he dated and he hit as well.
It turned out that he went and play in the
big leagues as a position player and a hitter and
made two All Stars and and you know, at over
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one hundred home run I mean, he was he was
fans to add a great career in MLB, but came
to US as a two way player to begin with,
but only pitched for those first two years and then
they allowed him to hit, and was like, wait a minute,
he can play.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
He could do both.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Great third baseman, and he turned into a third baseman
in Major League Baseball. But he was a very good
pitcher in college. He was one of our starters in
coming at USC. My friend Larry Zucker just touxted me.
Mark Kotze did both when he played at cal State Fullerton.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
He did both.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, I remember Markotzi absolutely, So it's not impossible.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
But I think as the player, you just have to ask.
You just have to say I want to do it. Well,
we're not gonna let you. Well, then I won't go
to school here. I'm a pretty good athlete. I'm a
good pitcher and I'm a good hitter. Let me be
the DH or let me play the outfield. Well I'm
not pitching. If you say no, you've got to demand it.
You don't go there. Absolutely right, that's what you and
that will turn the tide. Some guys, maybe a few
(15:01):
will be able to really pull it off. Yeah, but
a few will be enough to get people to start
thinking differently. Yeah, you know, I was upset with Oral
last night. Can I tell him? Okay, okay, I was upset.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I was watching the game. By the way, real quick.
Congratulations the Oral opening his new car car dealership. He's
got the Oral Herscheiser Chevrolet. I know those guys, Legend
act guys. He opened up his dealership. They had a
big opening. A lot of people came out. I think
it was over five thousand people came out and showed
up for Orals. Now he's a he's a car salesman now, Oral,
(15:34):
I know he did the commercials over before, but now
he's got his own place with his name on it.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So congratulations, Orl Did you say, no, he's a car
salesman now is that what you said? I didn't say
used car salesman? Now, No, you said, I said car salesman. Right,
you said he's a car salesman. Now he's always been
a car salesman. That's always Fred said that.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Oral.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I didn't or listen to the show. Now you know,
I know he's in Phoenix. That's why I'm gonna talk
about him, because he's not less. No, but I was
upset with him last night. So O'tanni, you know, leads
off the game and gets on and the Dodgers get
out in the top of the first and now he's
got to go out there and pitch. So to be honest,
(16:16):
at the beginning of the game, I mean, animals hit
Perdomo twice, yes, almost hit him twice, three times. Three times.
He almost hit him. Mat Omo was playing, he was
tap dancing at the plate. If I'm Perdomo, I'm like,
what the hell's going on here? Tart was playing. Otani's pitching.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
We're at home, and he has to lead off first
and then run to the dugout and get on the mound.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't want to lead off today. I'm not gonna
lead off. Okay, that's my point, Rodney, And that's why
I was mad at Oral. Okay, so Otani is out there,
and quite frankly, he's all over the place. I mean,
he almost hits him a couple of times. Then he
can't find the strike, so then he's fine. Oral starts
with let me tell you how how difficult this is?
(17:02):
Can you imagine how difficult this is? I mean, he's
on base, he's got a run, off base. He's got
to go into the dugout. Then he's got to get
his glove, then he's got to get his hat. That
he's got to turn around. He's got to run back,
get back to the mound and start warming up. He said,
(17:25):
you have no idea how difficult that is. I mean
you have to understand that he's got to get loose,
and I mean, given everything he had to do. When
I was going or stop stop, I'm thinking to myself,
don't make this like, you know, a major world event.
(17:46):
I got an idea. How about this If it's so
taxing for him to run in And that's what he said,
He's got to go in and get his stuff. And
I'm like, all right, Otani's on bass, one of the
bad boys.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Somebody grab I'm so glad you said that. What I
was thinking the same thing. Why when they're on the road,
why do they not have it all ready for him
so he does not have to come to the dugout.
Somebody's running it out to the mound, has all his stuff,
whatever he needs. He just casually walks to the mound.
Everybody takes they do it. When somebody just walks to
(18:25):
first base, you know, somebody runs the first base and
get their elbow gear and their shin guards and all
that stuff. But Otani, somebody should bring out even have
they have to bring out a whole you know, travel bag,
a roller bag, if you will, fred to the pitcher's
mound to give him everything he needs so he does
not have to go back to the dugout and then
run back out to the mound. I'm one hundred percent
(18:48):
with you on that.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, So I'm listening to this going, no, this is
not this difficult. It's just not this hard. Just have
somebody have his stuff. I'll meet the mound, meet you
on the mound. I'll save you the steps. Don't even
worry about.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It or even you know, like they do with the
other guys, the position players. If Max Munsey's on base,
Mookie Betts has got Max's stuff to bring out to him.
If Kyle Tucker is on base and this three outs,
Andy Paie has is bringing Kyle Tucker's stuff to him
so he doesn't have to run all the way back
in the dugout before he goes back to right field.
That's just the way it's always been done. So why
(19:25):
not with why is this so hard. That's the thing
I couldn't figure out.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I mean, is he superstitious he's got to go in
the dug out a certain way and touch the wall
and bend over and grab his hand.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I mean what you're doing right now? Now you're playing
into Craig Council. Now you're playing into his argument. See
see there you go into the favorable treatment. That's gonna
be his argument. Why couldn't somebody bring it? Why does
he need extra time? Why does he need extra time
(19:57):
if he's pitching, nobody else gets it? See there you go.
Now you're playing into it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
No, I'm just well, okay, I didn't realize I was
doing that, But I'm just saying. Listening to Oral, I mean,
honest to God, after you heard Oral, I thought o'tani
was gonna go out and perform open heart surgery. You'll
have to understand how difficult this is. And you know,
one thing and the time require it's not out there.
(20:26):
It's not like he's out there performing brain surgery. Somebody
bring him his glove in his hat, go warm up.
You made the point. If Kyle Tucker's on second base
and the inning ends, does Kyle Tucker run from second
base to the dugout, get his hat and his glove,
(20:48):
turn around and run the right field. Would that make
any sense to anyone? No. They bring him his hat
and his glove and he goes, yeah, well then oh
his there's nobody allowed to Maybe he's superstitious. You can't
touch his glove. I don't know, but it's not this
big of a deal. And then don't sit there and
(21:10):
make excuses. Oh my god, do you have any idea
how difficult this is? No? I actually don't. I don't
have any idea how difficult this is. I mean, it's
not like he's running two hundred miles in the sun
in the desert. I mean, give him a padding glove.
I'm sorry, but he said that last night. I was like, Oral,
(21:33):
come on, come on, it's like, really, there's a solution
what you're saying, Fred, Yeah, just come here and do it.
It's not that hard. All right, Now we solve the
problems of the world. Oh now we have to get
(21:55):
to this next. The Dodgers are lazy, so we better
talk about that next.
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Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh yes, coming back on a throwback Thursday, Rodney Pete,
Fred Rogan. You know they say in Game of Thrones
winter is coming, Freddie in La summer is here?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Is hot today? Is it feels good though? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, let me tell you something. It was hot early too.
I was out early with the dogs. Man, it was
warm early.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah. You have no idea what hot is? I know,
I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You don't have the slight at where we are now. Yeah,
we talked about Arizona and Phoenix yesterday. Where you are
now is exactly the same thing. Yeah, you have no clue.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
What did I hear? Joe Davison the game last night
said it was about three hundred degrees outside.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Come on, Joe, imagine if that was an open air stadium. Well,
they can open it up. I know they can open
it up, and they do when they can, but not
in the summer time, not in the summertime.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
They can't do that. See imagine, now look at it
like this, and I'm glad you bring this up. Let's
look at it like this for a second. We believe
that all stadiums built in this country should be domed. Yes,
so far is kind of like a fake dome. There's
a top on it at least. Yeah, but it's open
air around, right, and it's translucent. Is that what you
(23:53):
call it?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
When the sunlight comes into roof, you know, it's open,
so the sunlight can penetrate the roof if they need
it to be. So it feels like you're outside, but
you're inside.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Right, So it's covered. It's not really a dome, but
it's covered all right, Phoenix. Because it is one hundred
and fifteen degrees in the summer, the folks they're realized, well,
that's not going to be conducive for fans showing up
to play and watch baseball. They put a dome on
it to protect it from the heat. Now you look
(24:23):
at what Buffalo is doing. I know we touched on
it before. Buffalo is opening their new stadium this season.
Everybody's very excited. Beautiful, beautiful, and they didn't put a
dome on it. Now they covered the fans a little bit,
so that's a little different. But they didn't put a
(24:44):
dome on it. And I know the argument, well, it
will cost more, and if you put a dome on it,
you know you want to host events. And who the
hell's coming to Buffalo for the Final four? Right? You know, Oh,
we're going to have the national whatever convention. No one's
going to Buffalo. So they figured, why should we even
put a top on it. We're not gonna get a
lot of business in here, so why waste the money?
(25:06):
That thinking is so stupid. What a miss, what a
total disaster. Well we think that these these teams should
brave the elements. Why why would you think that, Well,
it's part of the game. Actually no it's not. No,
it's not part of the game. Falling down in the snow.
(25:27):
I understand. That used to be the game. And we
used to have rotary phones, and people used to tell
us never get into a car with a stranger, and
now we get into ubers all the time. Yeah, or
never take food from someone you don't know, and now
we have Postmates, right, I understand. Oh, where this myth
(25:49):
came out?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
That that oh this, we have an advantage because of
the elements, and we play in Buffalo, we play in
Green Bay, and they never pull the players right. The
players would be telling you, no, I'd rather play in
a control seventy two degrees environment than play outside and
wind circling and the snow, especially when player. It's not
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like all the players in Buffalo grew up in Buffalo,
so they're used to it since they were two years old.
Yet players coming from Miami and in California and Arizona,
you know, eout Caleb Williams coming from California and playing
at USC. Oh, yeah, he's gonna endure the elements of Chicago.
That's why he's gonna thrive. And now he plays obviously
plays well. But if you ask him, I want to
(26:32):
play inside. I play in a dome where it's controlled.
You know, it's not. This whole advantage thing is just
that's a fan myth. And I remember Green Bay fans
used to go cheer because they would announce the temperature
like every thirty minutes as it dropped it is now
two degrees, and the fans would go crazy like it
(26:52):
was gonna affect the other team. It affects your team too.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
By the way, the thing is, you know, since these
people think they're on the team basically, yeah, despite the
fact they don't get paid, they have to pay to
go to the game. Yeah, you know, this is a
test of our manhood in Green Bay, Rodney. This shows
who we are. We're tough. We're not like everybody else. No,
(27:19):
there's something wrong with you. It's not. No, you're not
like everybody else. There's something wrong with you. If I could,
I'd sit out here for eight hours and the temperature
is three degrees. Why what are you trying to prove?
What does that make you a man? Or insane? Why
(27:42):
would you do that if you had to? Yeah, I
mean think about it, right, Why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
What would be billion dollars on a stadium and you're
gonna you're not gonna cover it if you're in Buffalo
or Chicago or Green Bay or anywhere else. They got
Chicago's covering their new stadium. But man, I don't understand
what Buffalo's.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Doing anybody that builds one anybody. Now, baseball is different.
I get that you played most most of the time
in good weather. I mean you may have some bad
weather to start the season, in March in some places,
but and maybe in the World Series October you get
to start of some cold weather. But you're not gonna
(28:23):
it's not gonna be elements like December January. Like football,
you know you're gonna really be into it. You may
catch it a little bit, but baseball for the most part,
is played in the time of year where you can
have outdoor stadiums and it's and it's cool, like you
wouldn't even if you're in cold weather, you wouldn't want to.
You know, you don't always want to dome baseball stadium
(28:46):
like Dodger Stadium. A team in La, you wouldn't dome
the Dodgers or the Angels, you know in La gotta
do Arizona and the New A's facility in Vegas, you
gotta dome it because it gets too hot and nobody
will show up if you outdoors at one hundred and fifteen.
But baseball is one of the y is the few
(29:06):
sports that yeah, you can you still need want an
outdoor stadium, Yeah, unless you never want to rain out.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah yeah, Seattle, right, Seattle would be great.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Even Mets red side, they'll never know. Fenway is a
historical monument, so they'll never do anything to that. No,
But if you're building a new stadium, you know, be
able to afford it and afford it the right way.
You know. That's like building a house, but you scrimp
(29:42):
on the roof. Would you build a house without a roof?
Would you? Well, it's normally really nice. So we don't
need a roof on our house until you do, And
then what will you do building day southern California? Fred?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So, why do I need a roof? Except for fifty
times a year that it rains and then you're flooded.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, except for when it rains it really rains, or
when it becomes one hundred and ten degrees and that
can't happen here in southern California, or when it gets
down to thirty degrees. Well, I'm just gonna I'm muh,
I feel like I'm in Green Bay. I'm gonna just
gut this out. Why Why is the question? Why? Why?
(30:30):
What do you prove it? Who you prove of it to?
We'll show you. Yeah, you're showing us, all right, you're
showing us your issues. Okay, So Bob Night and Gale
spoke with Dave Roberts and several Dodger players about the
perception that they simply outspend people to win. Isn't it
funny When you work here and you follow things as
closely as we do, you understand that they have more money.
(30:55):
But that's not why they win. You understand they have
more money, yes, and if they make a mistake, they
can fix it. That's true. That's not why they win.
It's not about they outspend everybody. And Dave Roberts basically
called that thinking lazy. It's a lazy narrative, and it's true.
(31:16):
Let me give you an example. So when well, you
want to use the three Japanese players, Yeah, okay, Yamamoto.
Yamamoto's up for grabs. Anybody can have him. Anybody can
have him. So he looks at every team, and to
(31:38):
be fair, other teams were willing to pay what the
Dodgers were. Other teams were in it, Rodney, Yes, So
if other teams are willing to spend the same amount
of money you are, yet you end up with the player.
Is it about the money? Is it about the money
(32:00):
or is it about the culture, the organization, the system,
the facilities, the way they're treated. The coaching staff is
it about that or is it just about the money,
because the money was basically the same and at that
(32:23):
price point ten million dollars difference is basically the same.
Let's talk about Otani. Otani met with a number of teams,
and we know they were willing to spend Rodney. They
weren't cheaping out of the Angels, of course did but
other teams were not cheaping out.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
They were there. No, they were ready Toronto. They had
him signed with Toronto. Right, the plane has landed. The
plane landed in Toronto, didn't it. He and his dog
were landing in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
So they had it. But he signed with the Dodgers.
Why why? Now, let's look at Sazaki. He could have
signed with anybody, and there was only so much money
he could make.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, he came early to take a cut to come
play for the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
He could have signed anywhere Rodney, Yeah, with any team
in Major League Baseball. He signed with the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Why And it wasn't close to about being about money
because he couldn't get paid like Yamamoto because of his
years of service in Japan yet, so he couldn't get
paid that three hundred three fifty million dollars. So, yeah,
he was very affordable for anybody in the league. Right,
Why did he pick the Dodgers? The money was the same.
(33:51):
Anybody could have had them for that money. Why did
he pick the Dodgers. He wanted them to teach him
how to be the best pitcher ever, and he said
that that's what he wanted. Yes, well, that tells me
that the other teams, in his mind, couldn't make that happen.
And when people say it's just about the amount of
(34:15):
money they spend Kyle Tucker, Kyle Tucker would have made
more money from the Mets. Now, the Dodgers gave it
to him in condensed form, but he could have signed
a long term deal, more years with the Mets and more. Yeah, absolutely,
he could have signed a long term deal. He picked
(34:37):
the Dodgers. Was that because of the.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Money other teams offered him more he picked the Dodgers. Obviously,
it's just about the money. It's not about the money.
And Dave Roberts is right, that is a lazy narrative.
It's what you say when you don't have the organization
(34:59):
to come pete, And that doesn't mean money wise on
the field. I don't know how many times we have
to say this. What you see when you go to
Dodger Stadium is the major league roster. That's what you see,
the major league roster, the major league coaches, the major
league manager, the major league players. That's what you see.
(35:21):
But you don't see the back room. You don't get
to see that. You don't get to see all of
the people that work together to ensure the major league
roster is in the conversation every year you see. That's
where the other teams fall short. That's where they don't invest.
(35:44):
It's easy to say, well, these guys have all the money,
but that's not it. It's what's going on behind door number three,
and you don't get to see that. The number of people,
what they do, how they work together, the minor league system,
everything that goes into that. That's where the Dodgers are
spending the money. If you want the truth, I don't
(36:08):
have anybody's books. I have no idea, But I doubt
you'll argue this with me. They invest more money on
the infrastructure, everything besides the roster than any team in baseball.
I will bet you that right now. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
And if it's just about the money, how do you
explain Milwaukee, How do you explain Tampa Bay? How do
you explain Cleveland? Those are a well run organization. Milwaukee
is one of the best run organizations in baseball. And
it's why they're in the conversation on a regular basis.
Tampa Bay where Andrew Friedman came from, it's the reason
why they're in the conversation on a regular basis. Made
(36:47):
the World Series not too long ago. And same thing
with Cleveland leading the division. And then you look up
in the Mets are fifteen games out with the payroll
they have, So is it about the money with the Mets?
You know, the Phillies are struggling. Toronto a team that
was in the World Series last year, high payroll, top
(37:07):
five payroll, they're struggling. Is it Is it just about
the money with them? And it's not. And that is
a lazy argument because to the point of everything you
said about the infrastructure and the people that work for
the organization, it's more than just spending money. It's how
you spend it.
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the story of calling nine one one. You ever had
to call nine one one?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I haven't, actually, fred, I've not had to call it. No, okay,
knock on wood, yeah, right, and hopefully you never will.
But nine to one one is for what emergency? Yes,
if you have an emergency, you call nine one one right,
all right, So here's the deal. You tell me if
(40:02):
this constitutes as an emergency. There's a woman.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
And she calls nine one one. She's got a problem,
she needs help. She was at a place called the
Nowhere Bar in Ocalla, Florida. So she's in trouble. She
calls nine to one one. He says, get out here
(40:30):
and help me, all right, you gotta call like that,
and you're at a bar. You go, I mean, you
don't know what coulda happen to this woman. You could
have been attacked, somebody could try to beat her up,
steal from her. There could have been an altercation. So
(40:51):
they do send a deputy out there, because they're not
gonna take this lightly, of course not. The deputy gets
there and he doesn't really see a commotion or a problem.
So he's thinking to himself, maybe maybe it's over, but
now I better find who called to make sure they're okay.
(41:11):
So as he's walking up and he doesn't see a
disturbance of any kind, he sees a woman. The woman
is sitting at a table outside the bar. He says
to the woman, did you call nine one one? And
she said yes, I did. He goes, are you all right?
She ses, I'm okay, I'm okay. He goes, well, what
(41:32):
was the problem, I mean we rushed out here? She said, well,
the problem was they wouldn't give me a jello.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Shot, and that's why she called nine one one, and
that's why she called nine one one. She's a sixty
eight year old woman with these magic jello shots.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah, well they had a little something something in them,
of course. Uh, but to call nine one one? She
called nine one one. Guy came out and she complained
that they wouldn't give her a jello shot. Hmmm, what
(42:17):
kind of world were living in? Will that constitute a
nine one one call that someone would actually think? Because
you have to physically think about it and go and
consciously go, I'm going to dial nine to one one.
It's not a reaction for it. It's like I've got
to pull out my phone and I've got to dial
(42:37):
nine to one one and explain why I'm why I
am dialing nine to one one.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It's not like somebody hit me and I just reacted
and hit him. It is a conscious decision to dial
nine one one because they wouldn't serve you a jello shot.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
That's right kind of whirl we live it in, Well,
the kind of world where you're arrested. So now they
arrested her for misuse of public funds. Yes, after her arrest,
they did a search and the search turned up a
small amount of marijuana and two pipes. They had her
(43:19):
evaluated by the fire Department. She'd been drinking and recently
smoked pot. When she was cleared, she was taken to
jail and charged with trespassing and possession of not more
than twenty grams of marijuana. But she called nine one
(43:41):
one she had a problem. Well, she'll be released, Fred,
she'll be released, She'll get she might even she might
even get compensated by the government. All Right, when we
(44:03):
come back, as we begin our second hour, we have
another set of Angels, Dodgers, Grays craze prize pack to
give away and hopefully you'll win that. The salty a
Adam Awson will join us
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