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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fred Rogan Rodney p Happy Monday at five seventy LA
Sports on the program Today, David Vassy will join us.
Coming up at two and at one o'clock, Fox Radio
insider Mark Medina joints.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Us to talk about the NBA. Rodney, how was your weekend, Oh, Freddy,
I got a hundred guns, a hundred clips. I'm from
New York. Man, I'm gonna tell you something, and I
know Mark's coming on, but I have not in a
long time see a city so hyped for a championship

(00:37):
like the New York fan base is for the Knicks.
Not seeing it in a long time. I can't remember
the last time I seen this much excitement, hype, pandemonium.
It's about to explode if they're going to win this thing.
And I know we're gonna get into a little bit
with Mark, but man, I just just seeing it off

(00:58):
the top and then the anticipation of to it is,
I can't think of it. It wasn't like this for
the Yankees a couple of years ago. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
These people have been starved, Rodney. They've been living in
a desert. They have no food or water and suddenly
they get a little taste of something, and you are right.
The Knicks are not the Yankees, and they're not the Giants.
They're the Knicks. Yeah, and they hold a special place
in the heart of New Yorkers. I told you before
the series began, and I think some people didn't believe

(01:27):
me or wanted to argue with me. Now in this one,
people are going to be rooting for the Knicks, and
they are because it's such a great story. To be fair,
the people from the East Coast that now you see
loving every moment and savoring every second. Yeah, they're pretty obnoxious,
that's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
They are. They can be very obnoxious. But the thing
about it, I think it's just genuine. They're just filled
with emotion and joy. I don't think there's any pretense
to this. I just think they are so overwhelmed with
excitement that they can't control themselves. Look at and what

(02:07):
five maybe more of the people that you see going
crazy have never seen the Knicks one win a championship.
I mean you you got to be in your fifties
in order to remember the last time the Knicks won
a title in seventy three. Think about that. Most of
the kids in New York City today have never seen

(02:31):
the wit Knicks win a title. I'm sure you know
in the lifetime if they're old enough, the Giants won
a title. The Yankees obviously won a title. But you
got to be in your fifties to be alive when
the last time the Knicks won a title.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
And if you're in your fifties, you're lucky you got
to see that, because I don't think any of the
buddy's ever seen the New Orleans Pelicans won a title.
I've never seen the Detroit Lions with a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
But the passion is like you mentioned like it's it's
the it's it's like the Dallas cowboy effect, right like
every year, this is our year for the Knicks. This
is our year. This is our year. We're going all
the way. And a lot of times they've been delusional
about that, and they've gotten close from time to time.
The U ain't ara got close, you know, I think

(03:23):
they got close and what two thousand and one or
something like that later than that, but but they haven't
won it. But they are diehard believers that this is
our year every single year, just like cowboy fans are.
This is our year, regardless of what the team looks
like and shakes up to be year, or they went
seven and nine a year before, here we come this year,

(03:46):
here we go. So it's gonna be exciting and crazy
in New York.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Boy, let's see the winning bid for Celebrity Rose Seats
tonight Madison Square Garden for the Knicks. Winning bid one
million dollars. Somebody spent a month million dollars to sit
in Celebrity Road tonight. Wow, a million dollars.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
You know that first individual or a company that just
forked out that money.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I'm gonna check it out. I just see the winning
bid and it is uh split by the law, a
law firm and a private equity firm.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah right, that was it. Yeah, And let me tell
you something. And here's the problem.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
If you spend a million dollars, first, you're going to
be in an incredible event and people are out of
their mind thrilled.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
And if san.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Antonio goes out tonight and just stomps them, you're gonna
be so pissed. Yeah, I spent a million dollars to
see that. And that's the other thing. You know, you
go to a Dodger game and Dodger games cost a
little bit. Now, certainly not a million dollars, but.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Let's be fair.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
You know, you get what you pay for, and what
you're getting is pretty damn good. If you go to
a game, and I've told the story before, my wife
hates this. You go to a game, you spend the money,
you're settled in, and that just happens to be one
of the days they get beat. And let's say they
just didn't get beat. You know, it's a Key k
Hernandez pitching outing or Mickey Rojas. Right, that's how far

(05:07):
behind jare at that moment. You are so angry because
that's the game you spent the money to see. If
you spend a lot of money, you want them to
win on the night you go, Rodney.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Oh yeah, you want it to be a special night. Now,
with the private equity law firm, I'm sure they don't
even feel that million bucks and it came open, they
were like, okay, let's put a bit in, but let
me so. And we talked about it last week. That
the price of entry into game three is over ten
thousand dollars just to get into building, correct, right, And

(05:41):
that's nosebleed seats. If you're a Nick season ticket holder,
what do you think the bump is for the playoffs
and the finals? Ooh, fair question, because they're not paying
ten thousand dollars a seat to get in. If you're
a season ticket holder, are you no?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
All right, so let's think about it. If you pay,
what are your tickets cost?

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Regular? Just tell me what you think your seats costs?
Ridneing your season ticket at Madison Square Garden costs season
tickets forty one games. Let's say you're spending for two seats.
You're spending good seats, probably a thousand bucks a ticket.
So let's say you're spending eighty eighty eighty two tops thousand,
eighty two thousand dollars for your season tickets for your

(06:26):
two seats at Madison Square Gardens. All right, so you're
figuring a thousand game for your decent seats. Yep.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay, Now let's start bumping them up. How much do
we bump them per round? First round?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
What doll we bump them? Ten percent? Maybe ten percent?
Not more? Yeah, first round maybe ten percent? Yeah, So
now we're paying eleven hundred a seat? Yeah? Next round?
What doll we bump them you're gonna bump at twenty.
We're gonna bump at twenty.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
So we're probably at a we're probably at fourteen thousand
a seat.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Now somewhere around there.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
All right, now we're in the conference. Now we're in
the conference finals, right, yeah, all right, what are those
gonna cost? They're gonna be twenty five hundred yes, okay,
So now we're the NBA Finals, right, yeah, So the
seat you paid a grand four is gonna be what
four grand forty five hundred bucks? I would imagine definitely,

(07:22):
you know, more than double, certainly, right, So I'll bet
you so if you paid whatever you pay for court
site seats there, it's probably gonna bump up close to half.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
If you've got your tickets and you're not buying them
on the open market, yeah, you're you're going through the Knicks,
which they you know, will offer their season ticket holders
the right to buy playoff tickets and all that going forward. Now,
obviously you're gonna say yeay or nay based on how
much they bump them up. And of course New York,
LA the bump is going to be crazy as opposed

(07:58):
to it being in Cleveland. So it's it's it's just
a demand and the amount of money is in both
New York and LA that you're gonna factor that into
So somebody's gonna pay it, just like somebody paid the
million dollars. So no matter what the Knicks bump it to,
somebody's gonna pay it. And oh yeah, so yeah, of
course they get technically they could charge what they wanted to.

(08:18):
But are you gonna pitch off, piss off your season
ticket holders because you know you want those locked and
loaded for the season starts, so you know you already
got your money when it comes to ticket sales. But
are you gonna piss them off and say, Okay, we're
gonna charge you ten times ten times what you paid
for your regular season tickets. So instead of a thousand,
we're gonna you're gonna pay ten thousand per set.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
No, that won't do that. Mm hmmm, No, I don't
think that'll be the case at all. Worst case, a
thousand for the regular season. Okay, we'll start at two grand.
Your playoff ticket is two grand, yeah, and then we're
just bumping from there.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I mean, if you pay, if you like, a grand
each round, right, So it ends up being about four
to five thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Fright, you're in the finals, right, yeah, I think that's
what they do. They don't want to piss off the
season ticket holders. No, And by the way, at the
end of the day, they want their money. So if
the season ticket holders, if every ticket went for regular price,
they're good. Now if somebody can make more money in
the open market, that's another story. And don't some teams

(09:21):
take some tickets and send them off to brokers. Oh
of course, okay, one hundred percent. They got deals with
brokers all over the place, and then you know, and
who knows, maybe they get kickbacks from that a percentage
of that as well.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
But yes, they throw it. They throw it out to
these brokers. That's how they get you know, these brokers
out there to develop relationships with teams and leagues and
stuff like that, get those and can basically start promoting
those tickets before they even go on sale, right, and
they promote, Hey, we're gonna have finals tickets. We're gonna
have finals tickets. Here's our pricing, And they let you know,

(09:55):
it's like, how did they already get tickets? How did
they already know? And that is because the club it
out to them. Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
So if the club with that thousand dollars ticket, he
gives it to a broker, the broker sells it for
five right, Okay, the broker makes a thousand, the club
makes four.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
See how that works? Yeah? Yeah, If that's the If
that's the split that they've agreed to, like you, if
there's a reputable broker and they know that this broker
always can move tickets and he'll move them at the
highest rate, then we're going to give him more and
our percentage of that, we're going to split it. What
seventy thirty, fifty to fifty. However they do it, there

(10:35):
won't be fifty to fifty, I'll tell you that. Don't no, No,
it'll be it'll be eighty twenty. I'll bet you right.
We're doing you a favor. All you're doing is handling
the ticket. We're helping you out. You get your cut
out of this and we get ours. Or do they
send them out or do they make them make the
ticket brokers buy it or do they do it on contingency?

(10:57):
See they could do that too. Thousand dollars tickets you
got to buy them for two thousand and then you
can sell them for whatever you want. They could do
that too. This just again speaks to the fact that
we should own the team. This speaks to that thing. Yes,
you got some hustlers and you're a rolodex fred He says,
you know those guys outside Dodger Stadium or any the crypto. Hey,

(11:18):
who needs two? Who's got to? Who needs to? I
got two? You got two? I got two. This always
kills me when you walk in if that's if you're
running late and these guys are out there with the signs,
I'll buy two. You got two tickets. I'm running into
the building. Why would I have two more tickets to
give to you? And then where do they sell them?

(11:40):
The games get ready to start, where are they selling them?
If they get them, that's fair, But that's a lot
of people actually do wait for the game to start
to see if the ticket price drops. Why don't people
go to the parking lot. I just checked someub hub.
Yeah right, because it drops on there too. But I'm
seeing that guy on the street that you can really
negotiate with face to face. Okay, we're a minute into

(12:03):
the first quarter. You still want to hold onto those tickets.
They're gonna be worth anything at halftime. That's exactly right.
You faith for him, that's exactly right. You're right. What
are you gonna do with him? Now? Now? What are
you gonna do? You better sell him right now? No, okay,
well there you go, enjoy You've spent the money.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
You're stuck out here and you're not going in good,
outstanding business decision. I will talk more about it with
Mark Medeena coming up at one o'clock. All right, Dodgers
took two or three from the Angels. Man, I wish
they would have swept them. I really did know yesterday
Ama Sheen and here was the thing. That was one
of those days where is Emma Sheen gonna stay out

(12:47):
there and take his beating like a man.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
And then you get to Mickey Rojas later in the game.
You know he gets I'm like nine runs on the
first inning. No, Dave wanted to win yesterday and he
went out and got him. Rodney that that's a uh yeah.

(13:12):
I you know, those are one of those games.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
If you go to the game, a decision is going
to be made, and that decision is are we going
to sit here and watch this happen or are we
going to go for it. So I'm glad they decided
to go for it. I'm glad he went out he
got him. Uh and the Dodgers came back in that
game yesterday, Yeah they did, and then the Angels came
back again.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah. Well then he left Enriquez out there. Yeah. Yeah,
we're back in this thing. They're going to sweep and
then yeah, and then boom boom boom boom boom boom boom. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So that that was a disappointing end of the weekend,
But overall, the weekend went pretty well. And I guess
Rookie Sazaki you had to be impressed with what he
did on Friday night. Over the last four starts he
has showed steady improvement and now now you're seeing the
guy and it's fascinating. He just learned to pitch here.

(14:07):
He didn't go to the miners. If he'd gone down
to ok scene, he would have worked on all this
stuff he's been working on here, except you wouldn't have
seen it. You wouldn't know what he was working on.
If he was out of control or wild or couldn't
find the plate.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
You wouldn't really know.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
You might check a box score, but it wouldn't really
resonate with you.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
The problem was he was doing it here, so you
saw everything. Look at it like this. Now it's like
he started the season an okay scene, he's ready to go,
because now he looks pretty good. I think, yeah, I
think you're absolutely right mentally, because we've seen him go
to the dugout after a bad start. You see, and

(14:49):
obviously cameras everywhere you see the emotion on his face,
disappointment on his face. And with a guy that young
who's coming over with it, you know, obviously a lot
of pedigree and a lot of hype gets demoted like that.
You don't know what it's going to do to his psyche,
which is for a lot of teams that don't have

(15:11):
Dave Roberts or don't have Freedman up top, they they
wouldn't think twice about sending them down. Fred just hey,
go down there, get yourself right. We don't care what
it thinks it does you mentally, But Dave and the
Dodgers they deal with the people too. They deal with
the person, not just what the numbers say. And I
know people like to especially in the beginning, Oh he's

(15:33):
just Dave's just a robot and everybody's you know, from
top to bottom tell them what to do, and analytics
have taken over. So if it says do this, do that,
they do. And we've seen him really grow over time
and go with a lot of his gut and talk
about you know, looking in guy's eyes and seeing their
psyche and seeing their demeanor and coaching alongside. So he

(15:54):
is probably doesn't get enough credit of being that manager
that can balance both right the the human side and
the analytics side of the of the game. And he
does a fantastic job, you know, with it. And I
think you're right. I think you're gonna see continued steady
improvement from Rokie the more he's out there. And I'm

(16:14):
sure he appreciates the long leash that the Dodgers have
given him, and he's and the Dodger believe they're gonna
get that back from him by doing that. So yeah,
I think he's going in the right direction playing, you know,
pitching with more confidence. I think there's certain pitches that
he's gonna have more confidence and throwing. You know, they
what a day, what did they say? He's got the
up and down, he's got the speed, he's got the velocity.

(16:36):
Now he's got to get he's got to throw something
that goes right to left, and you know he's been
working on that. So I think time will come. And
having the luxury of a team that's in that's kind
of cruising in first place, and it's gonna be there
in October. Everybody knows that that there's not a pressure again.
We're in a dog fight in June for the division.
So every game counts right now, and that's just not

(16:58):
how the Dodgers have operated for the last five six years. Yes,
you didn't want to win them, and we talk about it. God, dude,
you gotta win the games you're supposed to, even if
it's may. Look up, See they are one game behind
the Padres in the division. It didn't matter, didn't matter.
Oh we got to play them a five game short series.
Oh it doesn't matter, three game walk, it doesn't matter,

(17:19):
you know. So that's that's where they are right now,
and they're slowly, just slowly pulling away. Fred. You look
up and and that's why you know, you look at
that game. Go God, they should have swept them, because
the Padres are struggling right now on the road and
at home. And the Diamondbacks, you know, didn't necessarily have
to have a great last ten game run either. And

(17:41):
you look up and now the Diamondbacks are in second,
Padres are in third. But the Dodgers are seven with
seven seven and a half games up on the Diamondbacks,
eight and something on the on the Padres, and they're cruising.
Then they're cruising. Imagine if Dodgers go to a ten
game stretch where they go nine and one, which is
very well possible.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
So it's like you said last week, Rodney, you don't
even realize what's happening. No one around no one around
them knows what's happening. Everybody's just doing their thing. They
look up and they go, my god, we're five games back,
and then nobody you know, Okay, well we'll figure out.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I'm set.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
We're seven games back, but not without a lot of
hooplah or noise or excitement.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Just man his business. I imagine right now, if the
Padres were seven games up on the Dodgers, what would
be happening in San Diego right now? Oh would be insane.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
It would be it would be the story. It might
even be the story in baseball, and it would be
the story down there every day all day. Oh yeah,
and they'd be watching the scoreboard and checking what was happening.
And here it's really funny. You know, they exist and
they're in the division and you have to try to

(18:57):
win the division. But do you even does it even
make an impression. It's like all they're playing to Padres. Okay,
see how they do against those guys. This time Andy
got the diamondback. Man, let's find out the Pirates are
coming up next year, Let's go get them. It's just
so nonchalant because it's expected. It's a different mindset when

(19:19):
you are that good, and the expectation is that you're
going to perform well, and when you do, not sweat
the small stuff. The little things don't matter to you.
Rookie Sazaki, you got to witness him in Oklahoma City,
except he was pitching for the Dodgers. I want you
to think of how insane that is. That would be

(19:41):
like a star prospect starts the season in Triple A,
is going to make mistakes, get knocked around. Finally, after
two months, earns their way to the big league roster,
and now they make their debut. You haven't seen any
of the strugg go along the way. This guy has

(20:03):
been going through that in front of your very eyes.
Because the Dodgers are so good and so deep they
can afford to let him do that. It's really interesting
and even more imperative that he's pitching well now Tyler
glasnow sixty d d L.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah. Yeah, it's you know, you feel you feel bad
for those guys that that you know, get here and
they got that that stigma or that that thing that
follows them of it can't stay healthy through a whole season,
you know. And he goes through and throws it. I

(20:42):
forget was it last year year before? It throws more
innings than he'd ever thrown with the Dodgers, that people
come here, we talk about it, to get fixed, to
get themselves right, go win a couple of titles, and
then here we are back on the sixty day the
guy that was such a talent, and you know, and
these guys rotate Fred at one point last year Glass
now was he was the guy you threw out there,

(21:05):
you trotted out there when you needed a win or
something to stopped the bleeding. Glass now was that guy.
And it's it's interesting because they can have four of
those guys right at any given time, that could be
the ace of the of the lineup, whoever's going good.
And especially when Blake Snell comes back, you can figure
that out. Who who would pick your poison? You know?

(21:27):
But it's a shame for him. I feel bad for Tyler,
But it just means some of the other guys are
gonna get more work. Yeah, and a guy like Sazaki
is now ready to go. So what works? One other
thing before we break here in the first segment, are
you okay?

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I mean, are you all right? I should have asked
that off the top, and that's my apology.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I'm a little yeah, I'm a little disappointed when you
get a gut punch like that when Freddy, But look,
hey they had a nice I'm assuming you're talking about
USC losing in the College World Series, right, yeah, because
on Friday you couldn't have been more fired up for this.
I was. I was very fired up and you know,
ready to go best of three against the North Carolina

(22:12):
team hop you know, hosting the super Regional. Uh, they
come back with a big win, they lose, and then
they get get to the ninth inning and in the
rubber match game and up to one in the ninth
and let it get away and they ended up losing
three to two, and and now North Carolina is going

(22:32):
to the World Series. So I feel bad for him
because they they fought all the way through. They would
they were underdogs when they went to Texas and beat Texas.
A and m underdogs in this one too, and just
had a really really good season. I know it was
overshadow a little bit by UCLA because UCLA had a
great season as well, but they got bounced. You know,

(22:53):
Oregon had had a really good season. Uh, there's some
there's some teams out there, but USC kind of was
under the radar a little bet and came on and
started just playing well. They were the team that you
love to watch because they were just scrappy and came
through in big moments. And but still a big shout
out to them and the road that they they took
and made and happy for those kids. It's it's funny

(23:16):
some of those kids I really didn't know until they
got into the playoffs. But some of those kids, like
I good friends with their dad, and I shout it out.
You know, that's little especially Aggy a little bit. You know,
that's a little aggy Man used to used to come
to the house and that was little Agie run around

(23:36):
in his diaper. I was like, oh my god, I
felt so old. Now the kids a junior hitting home runs,
s see, But it's so cool to watch that. You
see these kids grow up because a lot of them
are from played little league around the area, the beach
and Manhattan Beach and the valley and all around the area.
So it's cool to watch, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's also interesting and correct me if I'm wrong. You
play college baseball, and when you play, don't take this
the wrong way. Absolutely, aside from Major League scouts and things,
nobody cared. College baseball didn't get a lot of didn't get.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
A lot of love. No, not like this because there
was now to any day networks. Networks weren't playing our
games unless it was a special thing. But today it's
a different story. I mean, college baseball is a pretty
big deal when you get the playoffs here, I mean
it really is. And back when you played, not so much.
But now it's like front of mine. Actually you know what, No,

(24:33):
not like not even close like that. Everything's you know,
later it gets bigger and better. But Omaha was always a
big deal though once you got there it was. It
was a big deal. But getting there, like all these
regional tournaments, no, you didn't have ten thousand people in
the stands like you saw at North Carolina or you
see at Texas or you see what happened at West
Virginia where basically the whole state of West Virginia came

(24:57):
out for those games. Again, imagine there's more people in
Virginia that we're at that baseball game. Is not a
very populated state. Fred, Yeah, they were out there, they
played country road and you know, it was kind of
cool to see that environment. Very very difficult place to play.
But yeah, absolutely right. I mean we wouldn't We would
get maybe at big games against UCLA, maybe three thousand,

(25:18):
four thousand people tops, and that could be at UCLA
or at Dato Field. So it was. It's totally different
and certainly social. And the access to twenty five ESPN
channels allow you to see every single game.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Okay, Mark Medina joins US at one, David Basse joins
US at two, and when we come back, what should
the Lakers do with Austin Reeves?

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Speaker 1 (26:14):
Oh, come on, let's keep it moving. On a Monday,
Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan Summertime, let's go. I hate that
I buried the lead today. That's on me. Apologies to all.
Uh yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get over it for I'm
gonna get over it all right.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Because the Kings have a new coach, and of course
that Trump's everything. The Kings have named their new coach.
And you know, if you listen to the show, we
love Hockey, love it. We're Kings fans, and they've got
their man, Peter Levellette. Okay, let's hear it. Who's goody
go crazy? No, he's very good coach. He's been around.

(26:52):
He's coached a number of teams.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
You'll remember them.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
When the Kings played the Rangers, he was a coach
of the Rangers. He's coached the Islanders, Carolina, the Flyers. Uh,
he's coached Nashville, Washington, and the Rangers. You could argue, well,
a guy can't keep a job. That's not true. He's
a seasoned, veteran coach who has had some success. As
a matter of fact, if history, if memory serves me correctly,

(27:17):
I think he's a first coach in NHL history to
guide six different teams to the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Gotta love it. Gotta love it, and yeah, almost like
he's coached my teams that I played for in the NFL. There, Freddy,
he knows the players, he's been around, Yeah, and he's successful.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
So it's a good hire for the Kings. That's step one.
Now you have to move to the other steps. What
about the players? Because I don't think Peter's gonna strap
him up and take a couple of shifts out there.
I don't think he's gonna go out and play little
d So they better find some guys.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Now, what's the meat, Fritz, what's the big need? I
don't know, And we're going to talk about it later.
Talk that Larkin from Detroit could be available, good player.
What do you have to give up to get I'm
probably Quentin Byfield, so you know you're gonna have Fiala back,
Kouzman off back.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Both were hurt, they're strong. You got the bread Man,
you got Kempe. They need more scoring. They just need
more scoring. But Field's not going to give it to you.
I'm sorry, it's not gonna happen. Lafarier is a great
young player. I'd hate to see him go because all
of a sudden you're trading a lot of youth. But
they need scoring. And I'll be honest with you, Darcy

(28:37):
Kemper did not have a good year. Goal He got hurt,
never really recovered. Forrestburg came in and was okay. They
could use a top line goalie too. They have some
holes to fill. Yeah, And the problem is the Ducks
are so young and so quick. See the Kings now
become the Lakers. Oh they're good, but they're not young.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
But they got to compete with with those young teams,
right the Okay, see the Spurs. What about the Avalanche.
I mean they got bounced, but they're gonna be there too, right, Yes,
they're always there and they're lightning quick. So Ken Holland
the GM he's got some work to do. But they've
got their coach talking about work to do. Simple question,
You tell me Austin Reeves. We kicked this around all

(29:21):
the time. Now it was reported he's not taking a
hometown discount. He wants his money, and if i'm him,
I'm taking it too. By the way, I'm not going
to fold him for that. If you can get paid,
get paid, you wouldn't fold anybody for that. When it's
your moment, you got to take advantage of it. I know,
you know a lot of fans sometimes don't like to
hear that. But who's to say Austin Reeves gets another
opportunity like this be in a position like this. They're

(29:43):
no guarantee. You don't know, either he doesn't play well
or he could get hurt or who knows. But when
you put yourself in a position to go get that
generational wealth contract, you gotta go do it. You know, obviously,
unless it's in the ballpark of what the team you
just played for is somewhere in that ballpark and their

(30:04):
perks to stand and where you are. If it's a
if it's a big difference, then you gotta go. You
gotta go get it, So you go get it.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
So that means the Lakers are gonna have to really
pay him what he's worth or what he thinks he's worth,
or they lose them. Well, that's not gonna happen. Not
gonna let that happen. So they're gonna have to pay him.
So now they want.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
A number, and what is that number? Because we had
Dan Waki on last week and he talked about his
you know, he's not just gonna be the Lakers. He's
gonna have some suitors to go get him and to
pay him. So the Lakers, I don't think they can
just throw a low ball him and say, Okay, we're
gonna you know, we want you to take a home
down discount. Luca wants you on the team, help us out,

(30:48):
do us a solid. You know, it'd be one thing
if there's nobody else out there wanting you. But it
feels like there's gonna be some competition to go get him,
so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
So the point is this, let's say they've really got
to pay him. Now that ruins our playing right because
now they paid him too much. So then what do
you have to do. You gotta trade them. You gotta
trade them, You sign and trade them. And you get
assets in return.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Do you have that? Do you have that already in
place as you sign them?

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I think you're knowing how negotiations are going, right you.
You obviously you're conducting them. So you have a pretty
good idea of where we're at on this and if
they're you know, if he's to a point where that
doesn't work for us, then you've got to put that
other piece in play immediately.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
You got to put it in play.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, you know, and maybe one of the teams that
wanted him all of a sudden, all right, we're gonna
sign him and trade him to you.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Who you giving back to us? That kind of thing.
You got to get money off the books now too. Yeah,
that's gonna be a uh, that's gonna be interesting of
what team that's gonna be, you know, is it a
contender that wants a he's Austin Reeves is our missing piece?
Is it someone like a Cleveland I think is done
with James Harden and moving on from him. And you know,

(32:12):
they're kind of figure out what Dominan Mitchell's gonna do,
but they can they can bring in another ballhander that
can also score for them. Is that Wasn't that part
of their issue down the stretch is that, especially against
the Mix, they couldn't score. I mean, Jared Allen had
a great series before that, and Mobiley and before that,
but they couldn't score against the Knicks and and so yeah,
they're gonna be scoring. But let me ask you this,

(32:34):
if they do end up Lakers, meaning end up paying
Austin Reeves, what is that going to do for the
rest of the roster. Are they gonna be able to
build with Austin Reeves being your second highest paid player
at forty million dollars a year? Probably not. What can
you do surrounding that? Right? You got to look at

(32:57):
Austin Reeves. Are you still gonna pay Lebron twenty five? See,
I don't think you could pay Lebron twenty five. If
you're gonna pay him forty, you're gonna pay Austin Reeves forty.
It's gonna be tough to pay Lebron twenty five, right,
So you can't pay him. So now you don't even
have Lebron. Yeah, so you take that twenty five million
you're gonna pay him or twenty million you're gonna pay him,
and you try to spread that around. Well, that's what

(33:19):
you'd have to do. But that was the old model
they used. It never worked.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
We'll pay these two guys all the money, and then
who's available, remember a D and Lebron. Okay, who's available,
who's out there? Great, we get him for a year.
We can get him for two great veterans minimum. Perfect. Yeah,
that's what they'd have to do, and we know that's

(33:45):
not a prescription for success. So the Austin Reeves piece
of the puzzles really interesting. Cause again, if I'm him,
I want my money. If I'm the Lakers, I want
you to take a hometown discount.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, that's that's that's that's a tough one. That's a
tough one because you're absolutely right from Austin Reeves standpoint,
he's an undrafted free agent, comes in the league, does
his thing. Now he's in the position to get the
biggest payday of his life. How can you tell him?
How can you tell him to take a discount? Right,

(34:21):
it's different than a veteran like a Lebron, Say, Lebron,
give us a hometown discount. He didn't. He didn't add
what three super Max deals over his career. Basically so
he not hurting and he's been in that situation before,
whereas Austin reed, this is the first time and maybe
the only time he gets this opportunity. So fairly, you
cannot say take a discount for us, especially if that

(34:44):
discount is dramatically lower than what somebody else is willing
to pay. Top of the hour one o'clock Mark Madina
will jump on and will continue.

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Speaker 1 (35:13):
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Speaker 4 (35:52):
All Right and now from the Court to the court
Room with Jacob m Rodi.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Okay, we checked with our good friend Jacob and Ronnie
and Jacob, how are you today.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
I'm doing wonderful. What a what a what a great
way to start my week by getting on the phone
with you and Rodney on a Monday.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
All Right, you don't have to be nauseating about it, Jacob,
I mean, yeah, really, we love to keep it real, Frid,
keep it real, let it go, Jake, I appreciate that. Hey,
we were just kicking this around. Jacob. You're a proud
partner of the Lakers. Austin reives sign and trade. Do
you think that'll happen?

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Listen? It's you know, I think this is the first
year in about what twenty some odd years that I
am completely completely confused and have no idea what this
new ownership group is going to do. You know, in
all these past years, we've known that Genie Bus and
the Bus family were, you know, an amazing ownership group.

(36:53):
But you knew that they always side on you know,
the size of loyalty. They always want to take care
of their players, and sometimes they may extend things out
just because of that loyalty. Now you got the new
ownership group in. They've literally cleaned house. I think there's
like only two people left from the old regime inside

(37:15):
the business. Partner, you know, area, so how they're going
to attack this, And there's so many more people in
the room that are going to be giving their opinions
that honestly, anything I say is a guest. I know
that they understand that they got to surround Luca. I
know that they're not going to take any shortcuts getting there.

(37:38):
So I'm just excited to see are they going to
pay him this money? Are they going to sign and
trade him? I don't know, what do you guys think.
I mean, in all reality, with what's happening right now,
do you really think that we're going to lose Austin
that's the right approach?

Speaker 1 (37:54):
No, I mean I don't think so. I think you
want to try to keep them, especially because Luca likes
playing with them Number one, the number two, he's he's
a very good player. But at what price? You know,
there's word out there we can't talk about last week
that he's not willing to give a hometown discount. He
wants to go get his money. And if that's the
case and they end up paying him, you know, forty

(38:15):
million dollars a year, what does that do to roster
building for the Lakers and the foreseeable future, Jacob.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
And that's the problem. I mean all these guys, you know,
I mean you're looking at the Lakers where you're hearing
it also about even Okac or some of those people,
is that, you know, the roster building. How are you
ever going to be able to compete against Okac or
San Antonio if you're basically going to use up all
of your money on Austin and other people that you know,
unfortunately couldn't keep up. So I think some hard decisions

(38:46):
are going to be made from the other side of it, though.
I think Austin believes that this is the time for
him to get paid, and if somebody comes and pays him,
I don't think he'll be giving anybody a home discount.
But you know, who are you going to bring in
to replace Austin and Lebron? I think that's my question.
When you're trying to make a decision whether you're going
to pay Austin, you're going to say, no, that's too

(39:07):
much money to pay him. So who are you going
to pay? You know, who's out there that's going to
be able to bring you Austin Reeves' numbers? Or are
you going to split that up amongst a number of people.
I don't know a lot is going to be happening
in the off season, and you know, it's exciting to
know are they going to be able to go get
you on it? Is that going to happen? He keeps
talking about wanting to be in the East Coast, So

(39:27):
I don't know. As exciting as it is, it's a
bit nerve wrecking because I know, as Laker fans, we're
not used to going out so quickly, and it's been
happening a bit more than we're comfortable with. So I'm
excited about what the new ownership's going to do.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
See, here's the thing, Jacob, I don't think you can
consider anything the way you did it in the past.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Nothing. So it's like, well, can we get Gyiannis or
how do you replace Austin Reeves. I don't even think
you can think that way anymore.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
I think we need to figure out what they're going
to do, how they're going to implement whatever system they're
going to implement, What is what analytics are they going
to use? Are they gonna build teams differently? Very much
like the Dodgers. They found a bunch of guys we
didn't even know who they were, and all of a
sudden they played. Well, do they have some formula or
will they create one that we don't know about, so

(40:14):
that maybe some of the moves they make won't make
a lot of sense, but then in reality they pay off.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
See. I think in the past, Laker fans have always said,
what are we gonna do? Now? Are we gonna get you?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Honest, I'm not sure these guys even think that way.
I seriously, I think they're gonna do it very differently
and be very analytical about it and make decisions based
on what they think will work for sustained success.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Listen, I think when you look at it, I don't
think Okac went out there and build those teams based
on people that anybody knew. I mean, I still tell
everybody if the Okac team was locking in the streets,
the only one I'd probably recognize would be shit Hey.
The rest of them, I don't even I can't even
remember their names. But these guys went out there and
they got some of these guys that were supposed to

(41:07):
be very good, and they did a great job for them.
So I think at the end of the day, you know.
The question I'm going to ask is is basketball like baseball?
Is that system gonna work here? You know, in baseball
you can go down and get some people you know
and you know, triple A and double A and bring
them up and then those people end up being superstars

(41:29):
for you. Are they going to go to the G League?
Are they going to go bring some people from the
G League that maybe other people have not looked at?
So I think I think, as I said, it should
be exciting, but we're probably going to be nervous as well,
because some of those moves may not make sense. But
the one thing we do know is that they win.
And I think that's what give every single one of

(41:50):
us that, you know, that kind of confidence with the
new ownership and all the people they brought into the
you know, brought into the front office.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Jacob our listeners love and you offer advice. They absolutely do.
When I want to.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Ask you this, Rodney's called you, he's had issues. I've
called you. I've had issues. By the way, you know,
Jacob walks the walk and he talks to talk. It's
real anyway, What should people do if they're involved in
an accident but need a second opinion.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, so you know, I think second opinions are very
common with doctors, right, do you have health insurance? Most
people go to a doctor and a doctor tells them
you need surgery or you need some kind of procedure,
and a lot of people say, all right, well, let
me go get a second opinion. So they will find
somebody else that they trust, another doctor that comes highly recommended,

(42:44):
and they want to make sure that what the first
doctor is recommending is the right route. And I think
that's something that people need to know is also available
to them when it comes to the law, especially in
personal injury accidents. You know, in personal injury accidents, when
we are hired, we don't get paid until the case
is over. We don't get paid unless we win, and

(43:06):
if we don't win, then we don't get paid. It's
basically we take a risk along with our clients. But
a lot of people end up going to attorneys that
are recommended by a cousin, a grandma, or somebody like that,
and they don't necessarily know whether that attorney is an
expert in personal injury. They don't know whether that attorney
is working up their case correctly. They may have a

(43:28):
you know an instinct that somebody is not going well.
But then they say, if I want to go talk
to another attorney, now I got to come out of pocket.
I don't have the money. You know, the hell with it.
I'm just going to stay here and write it out.
So one of the things that you know we implemented
over ten years ago is an opportunity for people to
call our office for three and have us review cases.

(43:48):
And those cases often tells the person, yeah, your attorney's
doing a good job. And if they're not, then that
client has an opportunity to have another pair of eyes
on their case. And that's something that you should do
in any part of your life. Even if you bring
out somebody who's a electrician and they want to charge
you a boatload of money, you will bring in another

(44:10):
person and get a second opinion. So it's good for
them to know that in law that's also available, and
that's something that we do for free for anybody who
needs that potential review of their case or another pair
of eyes on their case.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Good stuff, Jacob, good stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
And when you say you will take another look for somebody,
you absolutely will. They're did no obligation right if they
ask you and say hey, Jacob, can you look at this.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Absolutely no obligation, nothing at all. We're just here to help, right.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Great stuff as always, my friend. You have a great week.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Thank you guys, have a great week and talk to
you guys.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Sin Okay, Mark Madena, Fox Sports Radio, NBA Insider will
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