July 1, 2025 • 47 mins
DeAndre Ayton is a free agent and despite his attitude and maturity issues, he seems to be the Lakers' top free agent target. Apparently the signing of Jake Lavaria isnt the most inspiring signing for some folks out there. A conversation about Al Horford's age devolves into a discussion about Tombstone Arizona, gunshot wounds and the way that people smelled in the 1800's.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alright, let's go to work. Fred Rogan Jonas knoxing today
for Rodney on a five seventy LA Sports Jonas.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
How you doing, Oh Fred, I'm great. How are you good?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
How was the show this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I was great?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, just you know, waxing poetically on the first day
of July, talking about how many NFL players could potentially
get arrested this weekend as it's their one last blowoff
before training camp starts in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What'd you have the over under on?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
See? I was a little bit more upbeat about there
being police activity involved. LeVar was not so much. Can't
imagine why, And I said, I believe that there was
going to be Oh like I just said it basically,
I think at a half or one and a half.
And I said, we're definitely going to get some sort
of an issue that will pop up this weekend, especially
with four fourth of July being on a weekend, despite
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the shade thrown a fourth of July by Dan Weiki yesterday.
And I believe that there would be an issue that
would pop up. LeVar said, no, So fingers crossed, somebody
cooperates and I can get paid here got a.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Lot of NFL cities, a lot of players. Yeah, I'll
tell you got a shot.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I mean, think about it. The Jason Pierre Paul like,
there's been a shoe by the.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Way, if somebody blows their fingers off with a firecracker,
even if the police aren't called, that counts, right.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh, totally agree, Okay, I would agree. Yeah. So I
just think that this is and it's not to make
light of that, but it does feel like, you know,
and you talk to NFL players like, yeah, basically because
you think about the life of an NFL player after
really this weekend for the most part, if things go
well for you, you belong to them for seven months. So
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literally seven months of your life will now be consumed
by nothing but sanctioned violence. And that's the National Football League.
So I totally understand it. These are these guys will
all right, listen, if I got one last chance to
let it all fly and behave the way I want
to behave, and eat what I want to eat and
do what the hell I want to do, I'm gonna
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do it. I'm gonna get it in now. And especially
like I said, with it being on the weekend, I
think things are gonna fire off for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
All right, okay, well I'm rooting for you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Thanks for you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You know, oh end uplifting positive approach to life.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, listen, hey, listen, these are the competitions you got
to look forward doing sports radio this time of year.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Tell you what. Okay, we do have a pair of
tickets to give away for the Dodgers. White socks are
going God, the white socks. Wait a minute. First of all,
I don't want to hear that, because you can't really
find Dodger tickets this season. We've got them. And wait,
there's more. The game is for tomorrow night. So you're thinking, oh,
that's kind you're giving us a little notice. No, we're
giving you tickets to see Clayton Kershall reach three thousand strikeouts.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, that's what we're doing. Yes, now we're talking now
how many This might be one of those Well, I
don't even want to spoil it. I don't want to
spoil it, Like, yeah, you can always say that you know,
what's the caller number? But you know we can figure
that out as we go along, you know, like do
you do you hit them quick and say first caller,
or do you make them wait a little bit and
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go eighth caller, like you make them grind a little
bit for it, Like this is going to be very,
very tricky because everybody's gonna want their hands on these tickets. Yause,
it's great that they're back home. It's great that the
White Sox are here. Very successful road trip. You'd assume
the winds are going to keep on coming and they're
just going to continue to extend their lead in the
NL West. But all of it pales into the discussion
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about Clayton Kershaw going for three thousand home.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
This is history.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's going to be big, and somebody will
have an opportunity to win those tickets, and we'll get
more into what the Dodgers are doing in the next
segment with the White Sox here. It just makes me
think about a shot of Miguel Vargas who was sitting
outside the dugout in Chicago after he had been traded
there and they had had their brains beat in only solitude,
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just looking and gazing into the crowd, the empty crowd.
Somebody captured that on film, and uh, you can only
imagine what he was thinking. I was thinking, he was
thinking what the hell am I doing here? What happened?
How did I end up here? What am I sitting
here like this for? But he'll be back tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
With the white And has he gotten his ring yet?
Or does he get it tonight?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
He doesn't get one? He will he will get one.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Yes, from what I understand, he will.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Does he get a real one? Or does he get
one like David Basse gets?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh no, what was that wrong? What's the difference?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No, there's like three levels of rings.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Rings, All right, break these, break these levels down.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know Bassay, Well, no, we'll bring them on later
on in the week. But he knows the levels of rings.
It's like you got the big player ring, then you
got maybe the ring below that, then you got the
ring below that. They're all rings, I mean they all
You put them on and you go, oh my god,
you've won the World Series. But there is a difference
from the one the players got to the one the
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staff gets. There's a difference. I'm not exactly sure what difference,
but there is a difference. And I don't know. So
Miguel Vargus will get a ring, you know, it would
be not you know, maybe and maybe he gets the
same ring as uh, you know the person in sales, right.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That's nice. Maybe that's nice.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm just saying I don't know, but we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So his don't have like like they don't have like
palm trees on it. His have like Coltran safety cones
on it.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Could be right.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Ok.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, that's a difference I heard in this year's ring.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Okay, I mean, look, if you want to start off
this this little beef with David Vasse already this week,
then you I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Not beef and David tell you that. But he knows
the rings, Okay, he understands how it works. He knows everything.
So we'll try to get him on and explain it.
That will be coming up. We'll talk some Dodgers, but
off the top, here we go n be a free agency.
Pretty cool, pretty exciting stuff. Oh yeah, you know, you
know the Lakers are still looking for that center. So
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let's see Clint Capella. Oh god, he's gone, he's out,
he's out. He signing Houston. Miles Turner now he's in Milwaukee.
Brook Lopez, Now that's a guy that we heard. He's
coming to La. No, it's the Clippers. It's the Clippers.
So quite frankly, things are are kind of the pickens
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are getting slim. The pickens are getting slim. And there's
one guy that we talked about yesterday, Dan Whyiti brought
him up, DeAndre Ayton. DeAndre Ayton, former number one pick
in the draft, never really has fulfilled his promise. Now
we know he's been hurt in the last three years.
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Each year he's played fewer games. His numbers are okay
when he plays, but he's played fewer and fewer games.
As a matter of fact, he had worn out his
welcome to a point in Portland where they didn't trade him.
They just bought him out and he left for pennies
on the dollar. They wanted him out and he wanted out,
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And you go, well, maybe Portland wasn't a good fit Jonas.
Maybe that's just not the place for him.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, maybe ROAs City.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
But also let's not forget what happened to him when
he played for the Phoenix Suns. Same thing, same approach,
And as the story goes, in Portland, they were struggling
with him, struggling why well, he was late for the plane.
Do you do you think that's a good thing? Didn't
really go through practice sometimes just skipped it. Yeah, that's
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the kind of teammate you want. That's the kind of
guy you want on your team. And right now, because
of what has happened DeAndre Ayton, I think it's at
the top of the Lakers wishless. Now there are reports
they're going to keep their options open, thank god, because
the athletic did a hit piece on him last night,
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like nobody's business. They ripped him to shreds. Goodbye Portland,
goodbye DeAndre. I mean that was ugly. They chronicled everything,
and when you write that, you go, oh my god,
this guy's going to be a real problem.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
What do you think, Well, here's what I think. I
think that in fairness to the loyal listeners here of
the blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports, I think that
we need to be totally honest and I think that
we need to tell the story as it actually happened.
Please this topic, this article that you brought up, this
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hit piece on DeAndre Ayton, a former number one pick
who knows his body better better than anybody, and decided,
you know what, why do I need to just empty
the gas tank so to speak, in practice when I
can just do it in forty games of regular season
play this year. This was discussed not before the show today,
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This was discussed yesterday afternoon. Because Fred was ecstatic when
this story came out. Nobody, nobody was more thrilled about
a hit piece than Fred Rogan. He was, I mean,
you talk about taking a victory lap, you know, comments
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to Kevin, and I like, oh, this will be the
lead forget everything else. This makes Kershaw going for three
thousand look like look like Billy Ashley bunting for a
base hit back in the day. Blah blah blah, like
all of these just I mean, just incredible overreactions because
you were so vindicated and so happy because you feel
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like you have exposed DeAndre Ayton for who he is
and ultimately now we see everybody's piling on. So I
hope you're happy. I hope he's able to get paid.
I hope he's able to continue his NBA career based
on reckless reporting and reckless broadcasting by not only them,
but also you, Fred, for what you've done to the
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great name of DeAndre Ayton, a hardworking, hustling guy trying
to find his way and navigate the treacherous waters of
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Well, okay, that's fair. So what's your Let me read
a little bit of the piece that was in the
Athletic from Portland. Just given what you said, I think
it's important to, you know, try to confirm or deny that.
Would you say it was hard working? Should you say that?
I can't remember. You said it was hardworking? What else?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Hardworking? Hardworking?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
That was it?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Disciplined?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Okay, artworking, dedicated discipline. So let's hear this. The tardiness
to team flights and practices, the skipping of rehab appointments,
Fans saw him slam chairs, and when he was taken
out of games, and a team source said there were
tantrums in the locker room when he was sidelined for
poor efforts. Some questioned as maturity. When he arrived, he
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envisioned himself as the cornerstone, the big Fish. He acted
like it. He was carefree and loud, often blurting out
songs or offhand comments in the locker room, while some
reporters laughed haha. There were times when veterans at their
lockers rolled their eyes. What were you saying? He was dedicated?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Okay, start working? So let me get this straight. He's
pissed off because they took him out of games. God forbid.
A guy wants to play, Okay, God forbid. And there
should be some sort of an investigation there. If he
only played forty games last year, the fact that they
were taking him out of the other forty two, I mean,
what are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Well, he couldn't he wouldn't walk, he was hurt.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And still he wanted to play. And you mean to
tell me that a guy like that is some is
somebody that the Lakers and this organization couldn't use, or
other teams around the NBA couldn't use. And last I checked,
are the Portland Trailblazers the model organization of success when
it comes to the NBA, Like, is that is that
the team you look at and go, well, let's just
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follow whatever Portland's following. They finished thirty two games back
in the Western Conference. They are awful. And you want
to know why they finished thirty two games back because
DeAndre Ayton only participated in forty games. That's why.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Because he was hurt. The year before he I think
he played fifty five.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, now his feelings are hurt.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. That's true.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That's what this is.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yes, that's what this is.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Because hurt.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, so that's why he acted the way he did.
So what were the excuses when he was with the Suns,
Because it was kind of the same thing.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
It's too hot, all right, sure, why'd you leave? And
also yeah, and also look, Phoenix is too hot, it
rains too much in Portland. You need something down the middle.
I mean, La feels kind of like it fits the criteria,
feels like it kind of fits the bill. And what
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other options are there? You know what I mean? Like really, what,
like what are we looking at? Brook Lopez just created
a storyline in town. By the way, my favorite move
in free agency thus far as brook Lopez go to
the Clippers, because now it's one of those Oh boy,
now you've got to hope that he stinks next year
or has no impact if you're a Laker fan, because
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it's going to be a friendly reminder every time they
play the Clippers, or you hear about Adam Auslin and
others talk about the Clippers. Oh yeah, brook Lopez probably
would have come in handy this year. Not a great
start to free agency. For the Lakers, if you ask me,
even though you got a lebron opted in, not a
great start.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Dorian Finney Smith, you heard this story, yes, okay, So
there was a report, and we don't know. I'm just
talking about what was out there. Not sure if it's
credible or not. But the report was that Rob Polinka
was actually telling people he's got a bad need that
was amended to a bad ankle to keep people off
the scent of signing them, you know, sending messages out like, oh,
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you're asking me a question. Okay, let me tell you
what I know. Yeah, I'll watch that ankle just so
he wouldn't get the big offer, so the Lakers could
try to hold onto I don't know if that's true
or not. I don't know if that gamesmanship occurs between
gms around the league. I don't know if you try
to dek somebody so you could hold onto a player.
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But that's out there today too. So the Lakers did
move quickly. Apparently their target and free agency, well, the
Clippers went after Brook Lopez. The Lakers decided we got
the he's six foot seven, shoots, the three plays, the wing,
Jake Laravia. That was their target. From the beginning. Okay,
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Jake Laravia, that was the guy. Okay, and uh he
was a free agent from the Sacramento Kings. They got him.
They got their guy, so they should be set to
go now.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I mean they must have fought off multiple teams in
the NBA to trying to acquire his services.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I want to be honest with you. I did read
you know there was some interest.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, Now the Rob Polenka accusation that maybe he was,
you know, telling teams to try and tank the market
for Dowain Finney Smith about the ankle injury and saying, oh, well,
you know he's this is a this is problematic. Do
you look at that and go, that's not a great
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look for Rob Polenka, or hey, he's trying he's trying something.
And if you need to spread some lies about somebody
to try and get a better deal, who hasn't done that?
I mean, who hasn't maybe you know, maybe taking a
can of tuna off the shelf and you're at the
grocery store and as you're walking up, you realize, man,
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tuna is really skyrocketed here. This is this is like
Albacore White. It's really and then you realize two twenty
nine for a can of too What if you know,
I just happened to drop this on the way there
and all of a sudden it's dented, and I take
it up to the cashier and go, hey, this is
two twenty nine. But look at this giant dent on
the side. What are we thinking here? Oh, yeah, you're right,
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we'll give you a buck off. If Rob polinkn can
tell everybody he's got a dented can of tuna here
and he can get a buck off. To me, that's
shrewd practice from a front office executive in the NBA,
and that I think tells you the Lakers have got
their guy. So as much as we want to talk
about well maybe the clock is ticking, there's new owner ship,
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is he going to get got like you know we've
seen before, Nola, that's a guy trying to use the
dented can trick when it comes to maintaining the ability
to sign free agents.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So you're you're basically equating Finny Smith to a can
of tuna.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
If you want to do chili, that's fine. I mean, really,
the contents inside the can aren't. Aren't what's important here.
It's it's the can itself. So if you want to
do chili, if you want to do.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You're now equating him to chili.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Chili, canaa tomato, paiste, soup, whatever you want to get,
whatever comes in a can, like whatever your your favorite
items are in a can.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Right, that's what he would be. Okay, Yeah, I do
want to say that. Uh, maybe it wasn't a surprise
that the Lakers did go out well and signed Jake
Lavia because he's also represented by Austin Austin Reeves agent.
Now let's go back to the rock Polinka thing. So
you said, is he really smart? I mean, is he
really smart doing that? Here's the thing. First week, we
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know what we know, we know what we don't know.
Here's the thing. If this is true, If this is true,
it really was a brilliant play Jonas until somebody found out.
Then it became bad.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, that's your problem. You can't if you're making that,
if you're taking that shot, no one can know. If
somebody knows, now you've been exposed and it's bad.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
If it's true, yeah, yeah, I would agree. You know,
the equivalent to that would be if he tried that
in the supermarket and in the middle of it dropping
it intentionally on the ground. Some guy from the deli
counter walked by it to go take a leak and
saw him do it, and that's like, hey, dude, what
are we thinking here?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And then he gets caught. That's that's unfortunate. And I
don't know. I mean, have we heard stories like this
about Rob Polinka before, you know, any sort of funny
business when it comes to him trying to tank markets
for free agents?
Speaker 6 (19:05):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I mean, the only thing I heard is that one
day he opened his front door and Luka Nancich was
sitting there and he said, come on in, you're on
the Lakers. I heard that.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You don't think that he grinded to get that deal done.
You don't think Rob Polinka put in the time and
the effort to get that deal done. You think he
was just gifted Luka Doncic.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yes, that's exactly what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
All right, listen, you know, I guess everybody's got their
own version of the story. I would say this about
the trying to get a better deal. You remember when
we had the conversation with Ned Coletti, I think last
week or the week before and He was talking about
how when new ownership came in, they told him to
just get a deal done. There was like a stockpile
of players, to just get a deal done. And he
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was still trying to orchestrate to get a better deal
and a better deal. And he's sitting there with somebody
in the room who's like, what are you doing? Just
the deal done. We don't care what the price is.
It was Mark Walter, And so you just wonder does
the new ownership look at, you know, this story from
Rob Polinka, because I find it hard to believe this
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story gets out unless there may be is some validity
to it. I find that hard to believe. Do you
think new ownership looks at Rob Lincoln and goes, what
are you doing? What are you doing? Ned Colletti was
doing it on the up and up. He was doing
it in front of them, trying to get a deal done.
Rob Polink is out giving fake injury reports on a
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player to try and tank as free agent stock. I'm
just wondering how that lands with people in the front office.
Now feels like a problem.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, if it's true. Again, if it's.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
True, how's it get out of It's not? There's not
something to it.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well, it could be a variation. You know, perhaps somebody said,
how's his ankle and he goes, well, I'll just tell
you what we went through. I'll tell you what our
medical reports say. If he does that, is he is
he trying to downgrade the guy so they can secretly
hold on to him, or is he just being honest
if you call another GM. Well, of course, with Mark
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Williams in that Charlotte deal when he didn't pass the
lake or physical something wasn't on the up and up there.
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Did we ever get a clear answer as to.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
No, it was something about long term. They were concerned
about his knee. I seem to remember that was it.
Hey we can look three years down the road and
you got a bad knee. Phoenix apparently didn't think anything
of it and trade it for him.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I just so, are there not standard protocols by team
doctors around the NBA like you feel this one? You
feel that one where like a were they just more
comfortable than the Laker. It's just I don't know, man, Hey,
they need a center. I just you know, and it
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feels like we are still having the same conversation here
all these days later, months later.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Kevin, are you staying on top of this?
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I am, I am, And by the way, I don't
know how relevant it is now, but Jonas, there is
some variation between doctors and a big one I remember
was Tyson Chandler. So before the Big Three got broken
up in Oklahoma City, I believe they swung a trade
for him, but the Oklahoma City doctors failed as physical
sent him back to He might have still been in Chicago,
I forget where. Then he got traded to Dallas. They
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liked his physical numbers. He ended up being fined and
helped them win a championship. Same thing happened with Eddie Curry.
He had a heart condition and one team's doctor says, no,
we don't want him. The New York Knicks, who were
disaster at the time. This was the Isaiah Thomas Nicks.
They were signing everybody. They signed him to a massive deal.
So these sort of things do happen where one team's
medical staff has a differing opinion or outlook than another
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team's medical staff. That this stuff does happen.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Isn't that problematic? Like just think about that. We're talking
about a man's heart yeah, and one guy's like, yeah,
looks fine to me, and the other one's like ooh,
I don't know. She'd probably take keep a close eye
on that. What about the guy with the heart, He's like,
can I get a clear answer here? Can I play
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or not? It's this thinking explode if I run down
the floor. Just yeah, Well here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It didn't explode.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
No, it did not. M yeah, yeah no, did not.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Have that a little blind faith? You interesting you?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
He's got to go for it.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Yeah, speaking of monitoring gets since you mission it there,
Fritz al sam Amy and Dan Wookie both currently reporting
Al Horford under serious consideration by the Lakers as well.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
At the moment, I like Al Horford, what's he forty nine?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I spink you might be thirty eight or thirty nins.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I'll double check on that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Let's get that when we come back.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
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Speaker 1 (24:01):
Jonas Knatsen today for Rodney A five to seventy LA sports.
Kevin has stayed all over the NBA free agency. If
anything happens, I assure you he will cut right in.
He'll have it the minute it happens.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I do have some breaking news for you there. Fred
Al Horford thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Thirty nine. Okay, so what I was ten years off? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Just slightly?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Okay, Well, I mean who better? Who better to play
with the Lakers now than Al Horford? I mean he
and Lebron basically the same age. Didn't have too much
veteran presence.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
How many games did Horford play last year? He played
a good portion. He didn't get hurt, did he?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
No? Believe so was? He was fairly healthy throughout the
course of the season and also in the playoffs. They
had to rely on him big time because Porzingis had
some sort of an illness miss time during the regular season,
like eight games during the regular season, comes back for
the po season. It was just a shell of himself
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and nobody could figure out what the illness was. Nobody like, yeah,
I don't know, we've we're looking into it. He should
be fully ready by training camp.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Wait what I've said it before? He had a case
of the misery, meaning what he had the misery, which
is what you ride your horse. You go see the Doc.
You sat up, walk in, sit down. I'm not feeling well. Doc,
I'll tell you what you got. What a case of
(25:31):
the misery? What do I need? Shot a bourbon? Get
back out there and ride away. That's what it is.
That's what they used to say in the Old West.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, I mean, all those guys lived for so long.
I mean, why wouldn't you do a shot of bourbon
when you go see the doctor? I mean, Jesus Christ.
Billy the kid died when he was eleven. I mean,
what are we talking about, Fred.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I'll tell you one thing. For a guy that died
at eleven, he did a lot before his death.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I mean, yeah, I'll tell you what. I don't know
if when I watched the movie to him still and
I'm not looking at those guys going, man, everybody's so
in shape, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, what's your definition of in shape back then?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I don't know. How about you could ride a horse
without coughing up a pound of blood like Doc Holliday's
got like a can of ragou spilling down the front.
Of his shirt and he's trying to play Texas. Hold
him inside some saloon that's got no running water to
wash your hands. After the dealer just grabbed his crotch
and is shuffling you like a two seven offsuit. And
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we're looking at that like, oh, that's the diet you
want to follow. Follow those guys over there. So wonder
they died in their thirties.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Things were different then. They didn't have the advancements in
medicine either. That was another problem. Imagine if they had
the kind of medicine we have today, yet live the
way they did, they would not have died.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
His yell all you know, I will say this about
your shot of bourbon. Yeah, and I don't. This is
by total accident. I could remember I had this like
flu or. I think I was twenty one years old.
I had a flu or cold. And you know, you think,
like when you're sick, you can just still go out
and party and it's not a big deal. And because
you're young and you're dumb and just you just want
to go out and rage. And I remember I had this.
(27:16):
I could not get rid of it, flu cold like whatever.
And you were if you work at a restaurant or
a bar. You get sick a lot because you're handling
other people's germs all day. And I go to this
bar and I did a couple of shots of Jaegermeister. Okay, gone,
(27:37):
sickness was gone. It was the best I felt. And
I was thought, Oh, maybe it's just because I'm buzzed.
And I talked to a buddy of mine and he said,
who was German? And he said, no, he's all that
in Germany. That's the cough suroup, Like that's basically what
they use.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
That.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
A lot of people use an essence Jegermeister to kick
whatever illness they have. Really, yeah, so I mean maybe
you're honest. Now I haven't done it since because it's disgusting,
but maybe you're onto something there.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Look back in the Old West, let me tell you
how important it was to use that for an anesthetic.
You know, if you got shot and it happened in
the Old West, yeah, you know there were good guys
and bad guys. Say you got shot, go to the dock.
They had take that bullet out. Or what if they
had to pull your tooth, they'd pull teeth too. You know,
(28:23):
back in the Old West, what would they do. Well,
if they if they were going to take a bullet out,
they'd give you a couple of shots. Tell you to
bite into this piece of wood and just pull it out.
If they had to pull your teeth out, they would
just give you a couple of shots. Settle linteres yank
your tooth out. That was the anesthetic back then.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Well, how many people do you think had to have
their teeth removed from biting on a piece of wood?
One question was pulling a bullet out of their arm?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Well it's a fair question, but they were already basically drunk,
so they could then pull their teeth out too.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
And by the way, how bad did those people smell?
No offense for any people from that era that are
listening on the iHeartRadio app No offense whatsoever?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
What era would that be?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I mean, I don't know, eighteen fifties, whatever there is,
nineteen early nineteen hundreds, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Oh you know what so well, Fred, I thought you
were from the era Fred was covering the Okay Corral.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I mean, I mean, according to Fred, al Horford was
exactly we hear him talk about him. Doc Holliday was
Fred's Dennis Fred's really well first on medical practices from
the eighteen fifties.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Aren't you mesmerized by Westerns and shows like that? I
always I don't know why I watched them, and they
just really interest me. And I'm always interested in the doctor.
Everybody goes to the saloon. Everybody knows who works on
the saloon, and everybody knows the doctor and the sheriff.
Then there's a bunch of other people that work there
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and live there. But you know the doctor, you know
the sheriff, and you know the people.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
In the saloon, and it's all on one street. That's right,
everything's next to each other.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's what everybody dreams about. Walkability. It's walkable, just right in.
Tie your horse up, get on in.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
There, and it's everything you want. It's it's like it's really, uh,
the strip mall before the strip mall, That's exactly what
it was. Got everything you need, that's all you need.
You got an urgent care next to a saloon, next
to a brothel, next to general store. Yeah, a little
general store there, sure, just but again, everybody smelled. So
(30:41):
I just want to know the first time one of
those slobs put on a stick of deodorant. What was
that feeling like? You know what I mean, Like, what
what did that feel like?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Why would you say everybody smells? Why would you even
know that?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Look at those movies. There's some people you can just
see them and go that person stinks like you can
see them like you don't need you don't have to.
You can see them through a double sided glass and
be like, oh, that person smells terrible. You can just
tell by the by their walk, their aura.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Then you can't tell if somebody smells by their walk.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Jonas, Yeah, you can because they can smell their funk
on them coming up.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Okay, good, this is a very good experiment.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
At iHeart Media where we work, despite the fact there
are no people there anymore. But if the people left.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Jesus, is that not true?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And I are still here.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I've got a I've got a hit list here, the
Fred Rogan hit list. I've been keeping track.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
All right, using your theory, Using your theory, it's the
way somebody walks. Who do you think the person is
that smells?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Go ahead, at iHeart Media, No, but the people we
know nobody by the way they walk. Nobody.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You don't think blackmore walks funny.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Oh jeez, it's like, yeah, blackmore to the list.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
That catches strays for no reason.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Didn't he deserve it? Kevin, in general principles.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Necessarily think so. But is there anybody else on your list?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Fred?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
How could you ever take a shot at Brian blackform?
Black's the best.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Fred's lucky he's in the desert.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I don't know why why I've been in there a
lot this year, Ronnie, have I not?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
No, that's fair.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
So now here's a question, not to get to philosophical,
but if you're in an area and everyone smells, couldn't
you then say that no one smells?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
That's fair?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Great point? You know, see that that's that's next level
right there, because I was simply looking at it from
sort of a snobby current day viewpoint as opposed to
back then, everybody just smelled the same, so you didn't
even notice it.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
And he was so imagine if someone back then to
people who are in that area and they thought someone smelled,
how horrible that person would smell?
Speaker 7 (32:59):
To us?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
They everyone's stunk. But what then the stinkiness someone stunk
was so bad that they thought that they stunk?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yes, Like, did I did I lose your friend?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I'm still here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's like the movie Exception, you know, all of a sudden,
they're they're on a mountain skiing and shooting at each other, Like, wait,
which which dream is this? Which layer to the dream
is this? Think about it a second, just because. And
then the first person who walked by, who had like
a scent of cologne, probably just sent everybody into a
state of shock. Like you imagine Johnny Depp walks through Tombstone, Arizona,
(33:36):
and he just he walks through there, and he's got
whatever that colone is that he's wearing, and everyone's getting
ready to like draw their guns, and then they see
him smile and they see his yellow teeth and like, ah,
he's one of us. That's one of us. It's got
a mouthful of margarine. But welcome in.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
All right. Two things, two things here. First, have you
ever been to Tombstone?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I have, just want to point that out.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I've been to too, broken and Rodny, I mean, what
is there to do?
Speaker 6 (34:13):
There?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Is there anything to do? Is there restaurants or Oh?
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I mean you just go what are you gonna do?
What do you think there's NHL hockey.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I don't know there, like if they modernized it at all. Like,
what if I'm going to Tombstone, Arizona. Can I get
the Dodger game on in someplace where I Clanton threw
up around the side of the building. Can I get
like anything?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Well, sure, if you can get it on the app Yeah,
of course it's they have electricity now Jonas.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay, but do they have like what what are the
establishments there?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I don't remember. I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Seems like a quick trip, seems like it's not really Uh, well, you.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Go, you take some pictures, you know, you stand in
front of the saloon, you take a picture, that kind
of thing. And here's the other question. I want you
to seriously consider this because you're talking about how people
smell back then, have you anybody Ronnie Kevin, this happened
to me the other day. Have you has somebody walked
up to you or you've walked past somebody that absolutely
(35:11):
smells just stinks.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh yeah, absolutely for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I had that the other night.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
It has like a visceral reaction, and you, yeah, it's
very hard for you not to yell out an expletive.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Right, But so what do you do do you say
anything or do you keep moving? What do you do?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Keep it walking?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Fred?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Is it someone that you know or just a random
person on the street, just a rando? Altho, No, I
keep pushing something. Excuse me, ma'am. Do you know you
smell like a stunt crawled into a hippos ass and died.
Did you know that what you supposed to say to
a stranger.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I'm just saying. And it can be repulsive. I mean
you could, really, it could knock your back.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
And you've had this issue before.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I had it just last Friday night.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Well, consider where you are, Fred, I wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I was there.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Where you know where I was?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I was at the gas station on the corner of
Hollywood Way and Riverside. That's where I was. Is the
Sinclair No, it's in into seventy six. What is it?
You know what it was? It was a place where
a guy ran a red light years ago and tebowned
my car. That was the intersection.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Boy, you've got a hell of a run of luck
there at the intersection. Yeah, surprise, we're not doing a
remote out there sometime.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, that's what it was. And I walked in because
I wanted to check my lottery ticket. When I was
getting gas. I walked in there. What are you laughing about?
I did? And then the guy said I can't check it.
I said, I want. He goes I can't. I'm on
my shift change. But I walked in there and there
was a guy standing there. Oh my god. It about
knocked me over. It was bad, and to be fair,
(36:53):
he was a big guy. And I said, should I
say something?
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I just have to suck it up and get out.
So I just kind of held my breath ran out.
Sign that's how bad it was.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Next time, say something, Fred, let us know how that
works out.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
You can't help a guy out, Ronnie. You don't. You're
not being nice. Hey, No, I don't know if you
realize this, But good god, you know what you could do, Fred.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
If it's a convenience store, just just slowly walk over
to the aisle there and pick up a little thing
of deodorant and give it to him, buy it for all,
and say, here.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
You go, Ronnie. I've tried that, by the way, I
did so the little liquor store next to the Sherman
Oaks studios. I drove it on a Saturday, and you know,
Saturday traffic. I think the show started at one o'clock
Saturday traffic just paint in the ass per usual. And
I realized as I was about five miles from the
(37:48):
studio that I forgot to put deodorant on. And I
didn't want to run the ac in my truck because
it just blows through so much gas because my truck
is also from like the eighteen fifties. And so I
got to the studio and I thought, I've got time
before the show. I'll just go over and buy a
stick of deodoran I went over and bought a stick
of old spice. I put the deodorant on my armpits
(38:11):
stung literally like it was antiseptic. The entire show, I
don't know, and like there was dust on the deodor
and as you pulled it off, like Kevin knows exactly
what place I'm talking about. Yeah, there's just it's real
hit or miss, you know, like some of the stuff's
got dust on it. Some of the stuff doesn't. The
prices change and bury from time to time. But it
(38:32):
was I was a one and done. I put it on.
I gave like two strokes on each armpit, and I
realized this feels like kerosene and I had to throw
it away, waste of seven dollars gone. So what is
the lesson put your deodorant on?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Exactly? Yeah, that is the lesson.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, And who knows, Fred, maybe the Lakers can put
some deodoran on when it comes to this free agency period. Okay,
hell's going on here, man.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
We'll talk some some more NBA at the top of
the hour with the Jovann Boha.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
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Speaker 1 (39:26):
Jonas Knaxen today for Rodney and now let's welcome on
a friend of ours.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
All right, and now from the court to the court
room with Jacob m Ronni.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
All right, Now on week we chat with our good
friend Jacob m Ronnie. And Jacob, how are you today?
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Good afternoon, gentlemen. How are you doing fine?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Jacob doing fine? What do you think of this Lakers
Center situation? As a proud partner of the LA Lakers, Jacob, Well,
you know.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
I gotta be honest with you. I have yesterday, you know,
we were pretty much feeling like DeAndre Ayton is the
one that they're targeting. And I think that's partly because
of the fact that you saw them. Lets Clint Capella go,
you know, Brook Lopez ended up going to the Clippers,
(40:17):
and you saw you know, jann Aiden as being the
best option. But when I heard that Miles Turner this
morning ended up signing with the Bucks, which opens up
the Indiana Pacer center position, I think we got, you know,
some things to be worried about because I think the
Pacers are going to go after him harder. Maybe he
can offer him more money.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Who DeAndre Ayton?
Speaker 7 (40:40):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh please? Do you don't like him? Oh my god, no, Jacob, No,
he's a malcontent. He was a problem in college, a
problem with the Suns, a problem with Portland. Last year
he played fifty games. Yeah it was fifty or no.
Forty four or something. The year before he played fifty.
I think he's a giant headache.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Do you think so, fred I mean, based on all
of the options that we're dealing with, he's in the
same draft class as Luca, it's got the same agent
as Luca. And based on what I was hearing is
that Luca was on board and thought he would be
a good fit for him. But obviously you're not a fan.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I don't think, you know what, everybody can change their ways,
but he hasn't. He's been the exact same way everywhere
he's been. I think he's a giant headache, to be
quite honest, were you're the guy who can't stay healthy?
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Well, I think one of the great things that we
have to think about right now is that when people
come to LA especially on maybe one or two year contracts,
this is what they need in order to change sort
of the whole narrative about themselves. As you can see,
everybody who comes here for a year or two contract
the end up bouncing back and getting a multi year,
(41:54):
higher amount of money contract. So, you know, I guess
we're hoping maybe if he does come here, maybe you know,
the Laker coaching staff and the Laker way will have
him change his way. And you know, listen, we don't
have a lot of other options, fred, I mean, what
are we going to go go bring you know some
guy who's been you know, who's been sitting on a
(42:14):
bench somewhere. I mean, you know, we know the center
position has been the you know, the biggest need that
we have, and uh, you know, he he is the
best one left. And I hope that, you know, I
hope that with all that stuff said, we still pick
him up because he's young enough and uh, you know,
he he's going to be better than all the choices
(42:36):
that are left. Unless you have some other choice for me, well.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I mean there's potential on the speculation, maybe al Horford.
So if you've got to choose between DeAndre and al Horford,
which direction do you go?
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Jacob so Jonas, That's a great question. But if you
get DeAndre Ayton, you can get him for you know,
a year or two without tying up all of your
calf You know, they're trying to you know, for twenty
twenty six or for twenty twenty seven. They're trying to
make sure they have caps mate and the otto Aiden
(43:08):
at least is young enough. When you go to al Horford,
you're not going to get him for the you know,
for the what mid level fourteen and a half million
dollar exception. So you know, you're looking at these guys
like you know, Turner and all these guys signing four year,
one hundred million dollar contract. I have not heard al
Horford as a real possibility. You know the call, you know,
(43:30):
the talk always was are you going to get Clint Propella?
Are you going to get you know, Rooke Lopez and
Ayton wasn't even in the conversation. All the other guys
are gone now. So of course, if you can get Horford,
that's obviously a much much better uh person as a producer.
But I don't think to mean you need somebody that,
you know, with Luca is going to play the dunking position.
(43:54):
Horford can do a bunch of different things. I don't know,
I'll be honest with you. I'd rather take the younger guy.
I'm still you know, I still take Ayton. But if
Horford comes, who wouldn't take him?
Speaker 1 (44:06):
All right? Well, Lakers would take him. Now, let's let's
get to something Jacob Our. Listeners love when you do this.
And actually there's a new law I think you're listening
to effect today. If you are driving in your car now,
you are not allowed to hold your phone at any point.
Is that the law?
Speaker 6 (44:24):
Absolutely? And I think you know all of us, at
some point or another may have been pulled over by
a cop who says you were talking on your phone.
And the first excuse that comes up is, you know,
I had my GPS on or I was looking at
a text. I wasn't really on my phone. But this
law is actually rather clear. You know, you can't be
holding your phone, even if it is for GPS, even
(44:47):
if it is for text. If you're holding your phone
in your hands, you're getting a ticket. And you know,
I have to tell you, based on the work I do,
there's a lot of people who are involved in accident
and because of the fact that they're still texting and driving.
I mean, that is such a major, major problem that
we deal with on a daily basis. And I myself,
(45:09):
when I'm driving sometimes I see the car next to
me either you know, veering into my lane, or sometimes
you may be sitting behind somebody at a light and
they're not moving and until you know, you give them
a little small, maybe you know, honk, and then they
look up because everybody's in their car and everybody's on
their phone. So I'm actually, you know, I'm actually happy
(45:31):
about this lit. I think this is going to save
some lives and you know, reduce some people from getting
badly injured.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, It's kind of wild when you see somebody in
traffic driving erradically and you know it used to be
back in the day, and man, are they drinking. And
then you look and they're just texting on their phone
in the middle of the traffic, like freeway, side streets,
school zone. That just on their phone, texting away like
not a care in the world.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
With kids in the car. With kids in the car,
tell you how often I have seen you know, the
mom or the dad in the front seat, you know,
on their phone, kid in a you know, in a
car seat, another kid in the back. And it's just listen,
cell phones have taken over our lives, whether someone's in
(46:17):
the car looking at social media, whether they're texting. It
just seems like everybody gets this fomo with not having
their phone in their hand. And I really do hope.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
That this law is you know, strongly strongly in the
forest so that you know, everybody puts the phone aside.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
All right, Jacob, thanks for coming on, Thanks for the
advice today, and we'll keep an eye in theker Center situation.
Speaker 7 (46:45):
Yeah you forgot.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
You know, we've got Jake Loreva. That doesn't excite you.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Come on, listen, if there was one guy, and I'm
serious about this, if there was one guy before free
agents started, right went, that's the guy. It was Jake.
That was the one guy, the hottest guy in the market,
Jacob and the Lakers guy.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
That's right. And we share a name, so I like
that too.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
That's all that matters now. He's a proud partner of
the Lakers, just like you.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
That's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
How do you take care?
Speaker 6 (47:16):
Jacob?
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Oh, don't forget. We have tickets to give away to
see Clayton Kershaw pitch tomorrow night. We're not doing it now.
Do not start calling. Anybody that calls now will be
banned later because to be a winner you have to
be a good listener. And it's not time to call.
We're just letting you know you'll have the chance to
call later. Does that make sense? Jones?
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
How you get a ba hm?
Speaker 1 (47:39):
The Kevin obannam Okay,
Alright, let's go to work. Fred Rogan Jonas knoxing today
for Rodney on a five seventy LA Sports Jonas.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
How you doing, Oh Fred, I'm great. How are you good?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
How was the show this morning?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I was great?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, just you know, waxing poetically on the first day
of July, talking about how many NFL players could potentially
get arrested this weekend as it's their one last blowoff
before training camp starts in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What'd you have the over under on?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
See? I was a little bit more upbeat about there
being police activity involved. LeVar was not so much. Can't
imagine why, And I said, I believe that there was
going to be Oh like I just said it basically,
I think at a half or one and a half.
And I said, we're definitely going to get some sort
of an issue that will pop up this weekend, especially
with four fourth of July being on a weekend, despite
(00:52):
the shade thrown a fourth of July by Dan Weiki yesterday.
And I believe that there would be an issue that
would pop up. LeVar said, no, So fingers crossed, somebody
cooperates and I can get paid here got a.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Lot of NFL cities, a lot of players. Yeah, I'll
tell you got a shot.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I mean, think about it. The Jason Pierre Paul like,
there's been a shoe by the.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Way, if somebody blows their fingers off with a firecracker,
even if the police aren't called, that counts, right.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh, totally agree, Okay, I would agree. Yeah. So I
just think that this is and it's not to make
light of that, but it does feel like, you know,
and you talk to NFL players like, yeah, basically because
you think about the life of an NFL player after
really this weekend for the most part, if things go
well for you, you belong to them for seven months. So
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literally seven months of your life will now be consumed
by nothing but sanctioned violence. And that's the National Football League.
So I totally understand it. These are these guys will
all right, listen, if I got one last chance to
let it all fly and behave the way I want
to behave, and eat what I want to eat and
do what the hell I want to do, I'm gonna
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do it. I'm gonna get it in now. And especially
like I said, with it being on the weekend, I
think things are gonna fire off for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
All right, okay, well I'm rooting for you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Thanks for you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You know, oh end uplifting positive approach to life.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, listen, hey, listen, these are the competitions you got
to look forward doing sports radio this time of year.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Tell you what. Okay, we do have a pair of
tickets to give away for the Dodgers. White socks are
going God, the white socks. Wait a minute. First of all,
I don't want to hear that, because you can't really
find Dodger tickets this season. We've got them. And wait,
there's more. The game is for tomorrow night. So you're thinking, oh,
that's kind you're giving us a little notice. No, we're
giving you tickets to see Clayton Kershall reach three thousand strikeouts.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, that's what we're doing. Yes, now we're talking now
how many This might be one of those Well, I
don't even want to spoil it. I don't want to
spoil it, Like, yeah, you can always say that you know,
what's the caller number? But you know we can figure
that out as we go along, you know, like do
you do you hit them quick and say first caller,
or do you make them wait a little bit and
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go eighth caller, like you make them grind a little
bit for it, Like this is going to be very,
very tricky because everybody's gonna want their hands on these tickets. Yause,
it's great that they're back home. It's great that the
White Sox are here. Very successful road trip. You'd assume
the winds are going to keep on coming and they're
just going to continue to extend their lead in the
NL West. But all of it pales into the discussion
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about Clayton Kershaw going for three thousand home.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
This is history.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's going to be big, and somebody will
have an opportunity to win those tickets, and we'll get
more into what the Dodgers are doing in the next
segment with the White Sox here. It just makes me
think about a shot of Miguel Vargas who was sitting
outside the dugout in Chicago after he had been traded
there and they had had their brains beat in only solitude,
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just looking and gazing into the crowd, the empty crowd.
Somebody captured that on film, and uh, you can only
imagine what he was thinking. I was thinking, he was
thinking what the hell am I doing here? What happened?
How did I end up here? What am I sitting
here like this for? But he'll be back tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
With the white And has he gotten his ring yet?
Or does he get it tonight?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
He doesn't get one? He will he will get one.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Yes, from what I understand, he will.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Does he get a real one? Or does he get
one like David Basse gets?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh no, what was that wrong? What's the difference?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No, there's like three levels of rings.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Rings, All right, break these, break these levels down.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You know Bassay, Well, no, we'll bring them on later
on in the week. But he knows the levels of rings.
It's like you got the big player ring, then you
got maybe the ring below that, then you got the
ring below that. They're all rings, I mean they all
You put them on and you go, oh my god,
you've won the World Series. But there is a difference
from the one the players got to the one the
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staff gets. There's a difference. I'm not exactly sure what difference,
but there is a difference. And I don't know. So
Miguel Vargus will get a ring, you know, it would
be not you know, maybe and maybe he gets the
same ring as uh, you know the person in sales, right.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
That's nice. Maybe that's nice.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm just saying I don't know, but we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So his don't have like like they don't have like
palm trees on it. His have like Coltran safety cones
on it.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Could be right.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Ok.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, that's a difference I heard in this year's ring.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Okay, I mean, look, if you want to start off
this this little beef with David Vasse already this week,
then you I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Not beef and David tell you that. But he knows
the rings, Okay, he understands how it works. He knows everything.
So we'll try to get him on and explain it.
That will be coming up. We'll talk some Dodgers, but
off the top, here we go n be a free agency.
Pretty cool, pretty exciting stuff. Oh yeah, you know, you
know the Lakers are still looking for that center. So
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let's see Clint Capella. Oh god, he's gone, he's out,
he's out. He signing Houston. Miles Turner now he's in Milwaukee.
Brook Lopez, Now that's a guy that we heard. He's
coming to La. No, it's the Clippers. It's the Clippers.
So quite frankly, things are are kind of the pickens
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are getting slim. The pickens are getting slim. And there's
one guy that we talked about yesterday, Dan Whyiti brought
him up, DeAndre Ayton. DeAndre Ayton, former number one pick
in the draft, never really has fulfilled his promise. Now
we know he's been hurt in the last three years.
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Each year he's played fewer games. His numbers are okay
when he plays, but he's played fewer and fewer games.
As a matter of fact, he had worn out his
welcome to a point in Portland where they didn't trade him.
They just bought him out and he left for pennies
on the dollar. They wanted him out and he wanted out,
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And you go, well, maybe Portland wasn't a good fit Jonas.
Maybe that's just not the place for him.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, maybe ROAs City.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
But also let's not forget what happened to him when
he played for the Phoenix Suns. Same thing, same approach,
And as the story goes, in Portland, they were struggling
with him, struggling why well, he was late for the plane.
Do you do you think that's a good thing? Didn't
really go through practice sometimes just skipped it. Yeah, that's
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the kind of teammate you want. That's the kind of
guy you want on your team. And right now, because
of what has happened DeAndre Ayton, I think it's at
the top of the Lakers wishless. Now there are reports
they're going to keep their options open, thank god, because
the athletic did a hit piece on him last night,
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like nobody's business. They ripped him to shreds. Goodbye Portland,
goodbye DeAndre. I mean that was ugly. They chronicled everything,
and when you write that, you go, oh my god,
this guy's going to be a real problem.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
What do you think, Well, here's what I think. I
think that in fairness to the loyal listeners here of
the blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports, I think that
we need to be totally honest and I think that
we need to tell the story as it actually happened.
Please this topic, this article that you brought up, this
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hit piece on DeAndre Ayton, a former number one pick
who knows his body better better than anybody, and decided,
you know what, why do I need to just empty
the gas tank so to speak, in practice when I
can just do it in forty games of regular season
play this year. This was discussed not before the show today,
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This was discussed yesterday afternoon. Because Fred was ecstatic when
this story came out. Nobody, nobody was more thrilled about
a hit piece than Fred Rogan. He was, I mean,
you talk about taking a victory lap, you know, comments
(09:47):
to Kevin, and I like, oh, this will be the
lead forget everything else. This makes Kershaw going for three
thousand look like look like Billy Ashley bunting for a
base hit back in the day. Blah blah blah, like
all of these just I mean, just incredible overreactions because
you were so vindicated and so happy because you feel
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like you have exposed DeAndre Ayton for who he is
and ultimately now we see everybody's piling on. So I
hope you're happy. I hope he's able to get paid.
I hope he's able to continue his NBA career based
on reckless reporting and reckless broadcasting by not only them,
but also you, Fred, for what you've done to the
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great name of DeAndre Ayton, a hardworking, hustling guy trying
to find his way and navigate the treacherous waters of
the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Well, okay, that's fair. So what's your Let me read
a little bit of the piece that was in the
Athletic from Portland. Just given what you said, I think
it's important to, you know, try to confirm or deny that.
Would you say it was hard working? Should you say that?
I can't remember. You said it was hardworking? What else?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Hardworking? Hardworking?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
That was it?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Disciplined?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Okay, artworking, dedicated discipline. So let's hear this. The tardiness
to team flights and practices, the skipping of rehab appointments,
Fans saw him slam chairs, and when he was taken
out of games, and a team source said there were
tantrums in the locker room when he was sidelined for
poor efforts. Some questioned as maturity. When he arrived, he
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envisioned himself as the cornerstone, the big Fish. He acted
like it. He was carefree and loud, often blurting out
songs or offhand comments in the locker room, while some
reporters laughed haha. There were times when veterans at their
lockers rolled their eyes. What were you saying? He was dedicated?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Okay, start working? So let me get this straight. He's
pissed off because they took him out of games. God forbid.
A guy wants to play, Okay, God forbid. And there
should be some sort of an investigation there. If he
only played forty games last year, the fact that they
were taking him out of the other forty two, I mean,
what are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Well, he couldn't he wouldn't walk, he was hurt.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And still he wanted to play. And you mean to
tell me that a guy like that is some is
somebody that the Lakers and this organization couldn't use, or
other teams around the NBA couldn't use. And last I checked,
are the Portland Trailblazers the model organization of success when
it comes to the NBA, Like, is that is that
the team you look at and go, well, let's just
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follow whatever Portland's following. They finished thirty two games back
in the Western Conference. They are awful. And you want
to know why they finished thirty two games back because
DeAndre Ayton only participated in forty games. That's why.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Because he was hurt. The year before he I think
he played fifty five.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, now his feelings are hurt.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. That's true.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
That's what this is.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yes, that's what this is.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Because hurt.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, so that's why he acted the way he did.
So what were the excuses when he was with the Suns,
Because it was kind of the same thing.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
It's too hot, all right, sure, why'd you leave? And
also yeah, and also look, Phoenix is too hot, it
rains too much in Portland. You need something down the middle.
I mean, La feels kind of like it fits the criteria,
feels like it kind of fits the bill. And what
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other options are there? You know what I mean? Like really, what,
like what are we looking at? Brook Lopez just created
a storyline in town. By the way, my favorite move
in free agency thus far as brook Lopez go to
the Clippers, because now it's one of those Oh boy,
now you've got to hope that he stinks next year
or has no impact if you're a Laker fan, because
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it's going to be a friendly reminder every time they
play the Clippers, or you hear about Adam Auslin and
others talk about the Clippers. Oh yeah, brook Lopez probably
would have come in handy this year. Not a great
start to free agency. For the Lakers, if you ask me,
even though you got a lebron opted in, not a
great start.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Dorian Finney Smith, you heard this story, yes, okay, So
there was a report, and we don't know. I'm just
talking about what was out there. Not sure if it's
credible or not. But the report was that Rob Polinka
was actually telling people he's got a bad need that
was amended to a bad ankle to keep people off
the scent of signing them, you know, sending messages out like, oh,
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you're asking me a question. Okay, let me tell you
what I know. Yeah, I'll watch that ankle just so
he wouldn't get the big offer, so the Lakers could
try to hold onto I don't know if that's true
or not. I don't know if that gamesmanship occurs between
gms around the league. I don't know if you try
to dek somebody so you could hold onto a player.
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But that's out there today too. So the Lakers did
move quickly. Apparently their target and free agency, well, the
Clippers went after Brook Lopez. The Lakers decided we got
the he's six foot seven, shoots, the three plays, the wing,
Jake Laravia. That was their target. From the beginning. Okay,
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Jake Laravia, that was the guy. Okay, and uh he
was a free agent from the Sacramento Kings. They got him.
They got their guy, so they should be set to
go now.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I mean they must have fought off multiple teams in
the NBA to trying to acquire his services.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I want to be honest with you. I did read
you know there was some interest.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, Now the Rob Polenka accusation that maybe he was,
you know, telling teams to try and tank the market
for Dowain Finney Smith about the ankle injury and saying, oh, well,
you know he's this is a this is problematic. Do
you look at that and go, that's not a great
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look for Rob Polenka, or hey, he's trying he's trying something.
And if you need to spread some lies about somebody
to try and get a better deal, who hasn't done that?
I mean, who hasn't maybe you know, maybe taking a
can of tuna off the shelf and you're at the
grocery store and as you're walking up, you realize, man,
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tuna is really skyrocketed here. This is this is like
Albacore White. It's really and then you realize two twenty
nine for a can of too What if you know,
I just happened to drop this on the way there
and all of a sudden it's dented, and I take
it up to the cashier and go, hey, this is
two twenty nine. But look at this giant dent on
the side. What are we thinking here? Oh, yeah, you're right,
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we'll give you a buck off. If Rob polinkn can
tell everybody he's got a dented can of tuna here
and he can get a buck off. To me, that's
shrewd practice from a front office executive in the NBA,
and that I think tells you the Lakers have got
their guy. So as much as we want to talk
about well maybe the clock is ticking, there's new owner ship,
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is he going to get got like you know we've
seen before, Nola, that's a guy trying to use the
dented can trick when it comes to maintaining the ability
to sign free agents.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So you're you're basically equating Finny Smith to a can
of tuna.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
If you want to do chili, that's fine. I mean, really,
the contents inside the can aren't. Aren't what's important here.
It's it's the can itself. So if you want to
do chili, if you want to do.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You're now equating him to chili.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Chili, canaa tomato, paiste, soup, whatever you want to get,
whatever comes in a can, like whatever your your favorite
items are in a can.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Right, that's what he would be. Okay, Yeah, I do
want to say that. Uh, maybe it wasn't a surprise
that the Lakers did go out well and signed Jake
Lavia because he's also represented by Austin Austin Reeves agent.
Now let's go back to the rock Polinka thing. So
you said, is he really smart? I mean, is he
really smart doing that? Here's the thing. First week, we
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know what we know, we know what we don't know.
Here's the thing. If this is true, If this is true,
it really was a brilliant play Jonas until somebody found out.
Then it became bad.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, that's your problem. You can't if you're making that,
if you're taking that shot, no one can know. If
somebody knows, now you've been exposed and it's bad.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
If it's true, yeah, yeah, I would agree. You know,
the equivalent to that would be if he tried that
in the supermarket and in the middle of it dropping
it intentionally on the ground. Some guy from the deli
counter walked by it to go take a leak and
saw him do it, and that's like, hey, dude, what
are we thinking here?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:51):
And then he gets caught. That's that's unfortunate. And I
don't know. I mean, have we heard stories like this
about Rob Polinka before, you know, any sort of funny
business when it comes to him trying to tank markets
for free agents?
Speaker 6 (19:05):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I mean, the only thing I heard is that one
day he opened his front door and Luka Nancich was
sitting there and he said, come on in, you're on
the Lakers. I heard that.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You don't think that he grinded to get that deal done.
You don't think Rob Polinka put in the time and
the effort to get that deal done. You think he
was just gifted Luka Doncic.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yes, that's exactly what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
All right, listen, you know, I guess everybody's got their
own version of the story. I would say this about
the trying to get a better deal. You remember when
we had the conversation with Ned Coletti, I think last
week or the week before and He was talking about
how when new ownership came in, they told him to
just get a deal done. There was like a stockpile
of players, to just get a deal done. And he
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was still trying to orchestrate to get a better deal
and a better deal. And he's sitting there with somebody
in the room who's like, what are you doing? Just
the deal done. We don't care what the price is.
It was Mark Walter, And so you just wonder does
the new ownership look at, you know, this story from
Rob Polinka, because I find it hard to believe this
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story gets out unless there may be is some validity
to it. I find that hard to believe. Do you
think new ownership looks at Rob Lincoln and goes, what
are you doing? What are you doing? Ned Colletti was
doing it on the up and up. He was doing
it in front of them, trying to get a deal done.
Rob Polink is out giving fake injury reports on a
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player to try and tank as free agent stock. I'm
just wondering how that lands with people in the front office.
Now feels like a problem.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Well, if it's true. Again, if it's.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
True, how's it get out of It's not? There's not
something to it.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well, it could be a variation. You know, perhaps somebody said,
how's his ankle and he goes, well, I'll just tell
you what we went through. I'll tell you what our
medical reports say. If he does that, is he is
he trying to downgrade the guy so they can secretly
hold on to him, or is he just being honest
if you call another GM. Well, of course, with Mark
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Williams in that Charlotte deal when he didn't pass the
lake or physical something wasn't on the up and up there.
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Did we ever get a clear answer as to.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
No, it was something about long term. They were concerned
about his knee. I seem to remember that was it.
Hey we can look three years down the road and
you got a bad knee. Phoenix apparently didn't think anything
of it and trade it for him.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I just so, are there not standard protocols by team
doctors around the NBA like you feel this one? You
feel that one where like a were they just more
comfortable than the Laker. It's just I don't know, man, Hey,
they need a center. I just you know, and it
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feels like we are still having the same conversation here
all these days later, months later.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Kevin, are you staying on top of this?
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I am, I am, And by the way, I don't
know how relevant it is now, but Jonas, there is
some variation between doctors and a big one I remember
was Tyson Chandler. So before the Big Three got broken
up in Oklahoma City, I believe they swung a trade
for him, but the Oklahoma City doctors failed as physical
sent him back to He might have still been in Chicago,
I forget where. Then he got traded to Dallas. They
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liked his physical numbers. He ended up being fined and
helped them win a championship. Same thing happened with Eddie Curry.
He had a heart condition and one team's doctor says, no,
we don't want him. The New York Knicks, who were
disaster at the time. This was the Isaiah Thomas Nicks.
They were signing everybody. They signed him to a massive deal.
So these sort of things do happen where one team's
medical staff has a differing opinion or outlook than another
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team's medical staff. That this stuff does happen.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Isn't that problematic? Like just think about that. We're talking
about a man's heart yeah, and one guy's like, yeah,
looks fine to me, and the other one's like ooh,
I don't know. She'd probably take keep a close eye
on that. What about the guy with the heart, He's like,
can I get a clear answer here? Can I play
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or not? It's this thinking explode if I run down
the floor. Just yeah, Well here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It didn't explode.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
No, it did not. M yeah, yeah no, did not.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Have that a little blind faith? You interesting you?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
He's got to go for it.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Yeah, speaking of monitoring gets since you mission it there,
Fritz al sam Amy and Dan Wookie both currently reporting
Al Horford under serious consideration by the Lakers as well.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
At the moment, I like Al Horford, what's he forty nine?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I spink you might be thirty eight or thirty nins.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I'll double check on that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Let's get that when we come back.
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Speaker 1 (24:01):
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Kevin has stayed all over the NBA free agency. If
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He'll have it the minute it happens.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I do have some breaking news for you there. Fred
Al Horford thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Thirty nine. Okay, so what I was ten years off? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Just slightly?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Okay, Well, I mean who better? Who better to play
with the Lakers now than Al Horford? I mean he
and Lebron basically the same age. Didn't have too much
veteran presence.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
How many games did Horford play last year? He played
a good portion. He didn't get hurt, did he?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
No? Believe so was? He was fairly healthy throughout the
course of the season and also in the playoffs. They
had to rely on him big time because Porzingis had
some sort of an illness miss time during the regular season,
like eight games during the regular season, comes back for
the po season. It was just a shell of himself
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and nobody could figure out what the illness was. Nobody like, yeah,
I don't know, we've we're looking into it. He should
be fully ready by training camp.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Wait what I've said it before? He had a case
of the misery, meaning what he had the misery, which
is what you ride your horse. You go see the Doc.
You sat up, walk in, sit down. I'm not feeling well. Doc,
I'll tell you what you got. What a case of
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the misery? What do I need? Shot a bourbon? Get
back out there and ride away. That's what it is.
That's what they used to say in the Old West.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, I mean, all those guys lived for so long.
I mean, why wouldn't you do a shot of bourbon
when you go see the doctor? I mean, Jesus Christ.
Billy the kid died when he was eleven. I mean,
what are we talking about, Fred.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I'll tell you one thing. For a guy that died
at eleven, he did a lot before his death.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I mean, yeah, I'll tell you what. I don't know
if when I watched the movie to him still and
I'm not looking at those guys going, man, everybody's so
in shape, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, what's your definition of in shape back then?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I don't know. How about you could ride a horse
without coughing up a pound of blood like Doc Holliday's
got like a can of ragou spilling down the front.
Of his shirt and he's trying to play Texas. Hold
him inside some saloon that's got no running water to
wash your hands. After the dealer just grabbed his crotch
and is shuffling you like a two seven offsuit. And
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we're looking at that like, oh, that's the diet you
want to follow. Follow those guys over there. So wonder
they died in their thirties.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Things were different then. They didn't have the advancements in
medicine either. That was another problem. Imagine if they had
the kind of medicine we have today, yet live the
way they did, they would not have died.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
His yell all you know, I will say this about
your shot of bourbon. Yeah, and I don't. This is
by total accident. I could remember I had this like
flu or. I think I was twenty one years old.
I had a flu or cold. And you know, you think,
like when you're sick, you can just still go out
and party and it's not a big deal. And because
you're young and you're dumb and just you just want
to go out and rage. And I remember I had this.
(27:16):
I could not get rid of it, flu cold like whatever.
And you were if you work at a restaurant or
a bar. You get sick a lot because you're handling
other people's germs all day. And I go to this
bar and I did a couple of shots of Jaegermeister. Okay, gone,
(27:37):
sickness was gone. It was the best I felt. And
I was thought, Oh, maybe it's just because I'm buzzed.
And I talked to a buddy of mine and he said,
who was German? And he said, no, he's all that
in Germany. That's the cough suroup, Like that's basically what
they use.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
That.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
A lot of people use an essence Jegermeister to kick
whatever illness they have. Really, yeah, so I mean maybe
you're honest. Now I haven't done it since because it's disgusting,
but maybe you're onto something there.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Look back in the Old West, let me tell you
how important it was to use that for an anesthetic.
You know, if you got shot and it happened in
the Old West, yeah, you know there were good guys
and bad guys. Say you got shot, go to the dock.
They had take that bullet out. Or what if they
had to pull your tooth, they'd pull teeth too. You know,
(28:23):
back in the Old West, what would they do. Well,
if they if they were going to take a bullet out,
they'd give you a couple of shots. Tell you to
bite into this piece of wood and just pull it out.
If they had to pull your teeth out, they would
just give you a couple of shots. Settle linteres yank
your tooth out. That was the anesthetic back then.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Well, how many people do you think had to have
their teeth removed from biting on a piece of wood?
One question was pulling a bullet out of their arm?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Well it's a fair question, but they were already basically drunk,
so they could then pull their teeth out too.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
And by the way, how bad did those people smell?
No offense for any people from that era that are
listening on the iHeartRadio app No offense whatsoever?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
What era would that be?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I mean, I don't know, eighteen fifties, whatever there is,
nineteen early nineteen hundreds, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Oh you know what so well, Fred, I thought you
were from the era Fred was covering the Okay Corral.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I mean, I mean, according to Fred, al Horford was
exactly we hear him talk about him. Doc Holliday was
Fred's Dennis Fred's really well first on medical practices from
the eighteen fifties.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Aren't you mesmerized by Westerns and shows like that? I
always I don't know why I watched them, and they
just really interest me. And I'm always interested in the doctor.
Everybody goes to the saloon. Everybody knows who works on
the saloon, and everybody knows the doctor and the sheriff.
Then there's a bunch of other people that work there
(29:56):
and live there. But you know the doctor, you know
the sheriff, and you know the people.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
In the saloon, and it's all on one street. That's right,
everything's next to each other.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's what everybody dreams about. Walkability. It's walkable, just right in.
Tie your horse up, get on in.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
There, and it's everything you want. It's it's like it's really, uh,
the strip mall before the strip mall, That's exactly what
it was. Got everything you need, that's all you need.
You got an urgent care next to a saloon, next
to a brothel, next to general store. Yeah, a little
general store there, sure, just but again, everybody smelled. So
(30:41):
I just want to know the first time one of
those slobs put on a stick of deodorant. What was
that feeling like? You know what I mean, Like, what
what did that feel like?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Why would you say everybody smells? Why would you even
know that?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Look at those movies. There's some people you can just
see them and go that person stinks like you can
see them like you don't need you don't have to.
You can see them through a double sided glass and
be like, oh, that person smells terrible. You can just
tell by the by their walk, their aura.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Then you can't tell if somebody smells by their walk.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Jonas, Yeah, you can because they can smell their funk
on them coming up.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Okay, good, this is a very good experiment.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
At iHeart Media where we work, despite the fact there
are no people there anymore. But if the people left.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Jesus, is that not true?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And I are still here.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I've got a I've got a hit list here, the
Fred Rogan hit list. I've been keeping track.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
All right, using your theory, Using your theory, it's the
way somebody walks. Who do you think the person is
that smells?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Go ahead, at iHeart Media, No, but the people we
know nobody by the way they walk. Nobody.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You don't think blackmore walks funny.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Oh jeez, it's like, yeah, blackmore to the list.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
That catches strays for no reason.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Didn't he deserve it? Kevin, in general principles.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Necessarily think so. But is there anybody else on your list?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Fred?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
How could you ever take a shot at Brian blackform?
Black's the best.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Fred's lucky he's in the desert.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I don't know why why I've been in there a
lot this year, Ronnie, have I not?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
No, that's fair.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
So now here's a question, not to get to philosophical,
but if you're in an area and everyone smells, couldn't
you then say that no one smells?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
That's fair?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Great point? You know, see that that's that's next level
right there, because I was simply looking at it from
sort of a snobby current day viewpoint as opposed to
back then, everybody just smelled the same, so you didn't
even notice it.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
And he was so imagine if someone back then to
people who are in that area and they thought someone smelled,
how horrible that person would smell?
Speaker 7 (32:59):
To us?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
They everyone's stunk. But what then the stinkiness someone stunk
was so bad that they thought that they stunk?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yes, Like, did I did I lose your friend?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
I'm still here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's like the movie Exception, you know, all of a sudden,
they're they're on a mountain skiing and shooting at each other, Like, wait,
which which dream is this? Which layer to the dream
is this? Think about it a second, just because. And
then the first person who walked by, who had like
a scent of cologne, probably just sent everybody into a
state of shock. Like you imagine Johnny Depp walks through Tombstone, Arizona,
(33:36):
and he just he walks through there, and he's got
whatever that colone is that he's wearing, and everyone's getting
ready to like draw their guns, and then they see
him smile and they see his yellow teeth and like, ah,
he's one of us. That's one of us. It's got
a mouthful of margarine. But welcome in.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
All right. Two things, two things here. First, have you
ever been to Tombstone?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I have, just want to point that out.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I've been to too, broken and Rodny, I mean, what
is there to do?
Speaker 6 (34:13):
There?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Is there anything to do? Is there restaurants or Oh?
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I mean you just go what are you gonna do?
What do you think there's NHL hockey.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I don't know there, like if they modernized it at all. Like,
what if I'm going to Tombstone, Arizona. Can I get
the Dodger game on in someplace where I Clanton threw
up around the side of the building. Can I get
like anything?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Well, sure, if you can get it on the app Yeah,
of course it's they have electricity now Jonas.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay, but do they have like what what are the
establishments there?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I don't remember. I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Seems like a quick trip, seems like it's not really Uh, well, you.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Go, you take some pictures, you know, you stand in
front of the saloon, you take a picture, that kind
of thing. And here's the other question. I want you
to seriously consider this because you're talking about how people
smell back then, have you anybody Ronnie Kevin, this happened
to me the other day. Have you has somebody walked
up to you or you've walked past somebody that absolutely
(35:11):
smells just stinks.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh yeah, absolutely for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
I had that the other night.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
It has like a visceral reaction, and you, yeah, it's
very hard for you not to yell out an expletive.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Right, But so what do you do do you say
anything or do you keep moving? What do you do?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Keep it walking?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Fred?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Is it someone that you know or just a random
person on the street, just a rando? Altho, No, I
keep pushing something. Excuse me, ma'am. Do you know you
smell like a stunt crawled into a hippos ass and died.
Did you know that what you supposed to say to
a stranger.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I'm just saying. And it can be repulsive. I mean
you could, really, it could knock your back.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
And you've had this issue before.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I had it just last Friday night.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Well, consider where you are, Fred, I wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I was there.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Where you know where I was?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I was at the gas station on the corner of
Hollywood Way and Riverside. That's where I was. Is the
Sinclair No, it's in into seventy six. What is it?
You know what it was? It was a place where
a guy ran a red light years ago and tebowned
my car. That was the intersection.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Boy, you've got a hell of a run of luck
there at the intersection. Yeah, surprise, we're not doing a
remote out there sometime.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, that's what it was. And I walked in because
I wanted to check my lottery ticket. When I was
getting gas. I walked in there. What are you laughing about?
I did? And then the guy said I can't check it.
I said, I want. He goes I can't. I'm on
my shift change. But I walked in there and there
was a guy standing there. Oh my god. It about
knocked me over. It was bad, and to be fair,
(36:53):
he was a big guy. And I said, should I
say something?
Speaker 6 (36:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I just have to suck it up and get out.
So I just kind of held my breath ran out.
Sign that's how bad it was.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Next time, say something, Fred, let us know how that
works out.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
You can't help a guy out, Ronnie. You don't. You're
not being nice. Hey, No, I don't know if you
realize this, But good god, you know what you could do, Fred.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
If it's a convenience store, just just slowly walk over
to the aisle there and pick up a little thing
of deodorant and give it to him, buy it for all,
and say, here.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
You go, Ronnie. I've tried that, by the way, I
did so the little liquor store next to the Sherman
Oaks studios. I drove it on a Saturday, and you know,
Saturday traffic. I think the show started at one o'clock
Saturday traffic just paint in the ass per usual. And
I realized as I was about five miles from the
(37:48):
studio that I forgot to put deodorant on. And I
didn't want to run the ac in my truck because
it just blows through so much gas because my truck
is also from like the eighteen fifties. And so I
got to the studio and I thought, I've got time
before the show. I'll just go over and buy a
stick of deodoran I went over and bought a stick
of old spice. I put the deodorant on my armpits
(38:11):
stung literally like it was antiseptic. The entire show, I
don't know, and like there was dust on the deodor
and as you pulled it off, like Kevin knows exactly
what place I'm talking about. Yeah, there's just it's real
hit or miss, you know, like some of the stuff's
got dust on it. Some of the stuff doesn't. The
prices change and bury from time to time. But it
(38:32):
was I was a one and done. I put it on.
I gave like two strokes on each armpit, and I
realized this feels like kerosene and I had to throw
it away, waste of seven dollars gone. So what is
the lesson put your deodorant on?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Exactly? Yeah, that is the lesson.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, And who knows, Fred, maybe the Lakers can put
some deodoran on when it comes to this free agency period. Okay,
hell's going on here, man.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
We'll talk some some more NBA at the top of
the hour with the Jovann Boha.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
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Speaker 1 (39:26):
Jonas Knaxen today for Rodney and now let's welcome on
a friend of ours.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
All right, and now from the court to the court
room with Jacob m Ronni.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
All right, Now on week we chat with our good
friend Jacob m Ronnie. And Jacob, how are you today?
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Good afternoon, gentlemen. How are you doing fine?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Jacob doing fine? What do you think of this Lakers
Center situation? As a proud partner of the LA Lakers, Jacob, Well,
you know.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
I gotta be honest with you. I have yesterday, you know,
we were pretty much feeling like DeAndre Ayton is the
one that they're targeting. And I think that's partly because
of the fact that you saw them. Lets Clint Capella go,
you know, Brook Lopez ended up going to the Clippers,
(40:17):
and you saw you know, jann Aiden as being the
best option. But when I heard that Miles Turner this
morning ended up signing with the Bucks, which opens up
the Indiana Pacer center position, I think we got, you know,
some things to be worried about because I think the
Pacers are going to go after him harder. Maybe he
can offer him more money.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Who DeAndre Ayton?
Speaker 7 (40:40):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Oh please? Do you don't like him? Oh my god, no, Jacob, No,
he's a malcontent. He was a problem in college, a
problem with the Suns, a problem with Portland. Last year
he played fifty games. Yeah it was fifty or no.
Forty four or something. The year before he played fifty.
I think he's a giant headache.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Do you think so, fred I mean, based on all
of the options that we're dealing with, he's in the
same draft class as Luca, it's got the same agent
as Luca. And based on what I was hearing is
that Luca was on board and thought he would be
a good fit for him. But obviously you're not a fan.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I don't think, you know what, everybody can change their ways,
but he hasn't. He's been the exact same way everywhere
he's been. I think he's a giant headache, to be
quite honest, were you're the guy who can't stay healthy?
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Well, I think one of the great things that we
have to think about right now is that when people
come to LA especially on maybe one or two year contracts,
this is what they need in order to change sort
of the whole narrative about themselves. As you can see,
everybody who comes here for a year or two contract
the end up bouncing back and getting a multi year,
(41:54):
higher amount of money contract. So, you know, I guess
we're hoping maybe if he does come here, maybe you know,
the Laker coaching staff and the Laker way will have
him change his way. And you know, listen, we don't
have a lot of other options, fred, I mean, what
are we going to go go bring you know some
guy who's been you know, who's been sitting on a
(42:14):
bench somewhere. I mean, you know, we know the center
position has been the you know, the biggest need that
we have, and uh, you know, he he is the
best one left. And I hope that, you know, I
hope that with all that stuff said, we still pick
him up because he's young enough and uh, you know,
he he's going to be better than all the choices
(42:36):
that are left. Unless you have some other choice for me, well.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
I mean there's potential on the speculation, maybe al Horford.
So if you've got to choose between DeAndre and al Horford,
which direction do you go?
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Jacob so Jonas, That's a great question. But if you
get DeAndre Ayton, you can get him for you know,
a year or two without tying up all of your
calf You know, they're trying to you know, for twenty
twenty six or for twenty twenty seven. They're trying to
make sure they have caps mate and the otto Aiden
(43:08):
at least is young enough. When you go to al Horford,
you're not going to get him for the you know,
for the what mid level fourteen and a half million
dollar exception. So you know, you're looking at these guys
like you know, Turner and all these guys signing four year,
one hundred million dollar contract. I have not heard al
Horford as a real possibility. You know the call, you know,
(43:30):
the talk always was are you going to get Clint Propella?
Are you going to get you know, Rooke Lopez and
Ayton wasn't even in the conversation. All the other guys
are gone now. So of course, if you can get Horford,
that's obviously a much much better uh person as a producer.
But I don't think to mean you need somebody that,
you know, with Luca is going to play the dunking position.
(43:54):
Horford can do a bunch of different things. I don't know,
I'll be honest with you. I'd rather take the younger guy.
I'm still you know, I still take Ayton. But if
Horford comes, who wouldn't take him?
Speaker 1 (44:06):
All right? Well, Lakers would take him. Now, let's let's
get to something Jacob Our. Listeners love when you do this.
And actually there's a new law I think you're listening
to effect today. If you are driving in your car now,
you are not allowed to hold your phone at any point.
Is that the law?
Speaker 6 (44:24):
Absolutely? And I think you know all of us, at
some point or another may have been pulled over by
a cop who says you were talking on your phone.
And the first excuse that comes up is, you know,
I had my GPS on or I was looking at
a text. I wasn't really on my phone. But this
law is actually rather clear. You know, you can't be
holding your phone, even if it is for GPS, even
(44:47):
if it is for text. If you're holding your phone
in your hands, you're getting a ticket. And you know,
I have to tell you, based on the work I do,
there's a lot of people who are involved in accident
and because of the fact that they're still texting and driving.
I mean, that is such a major, major problem that
we deal with on a daily basis. And I myself,
(45:09):
when I'm driving sometimes I see the car next to
me either you know, veering into my lane, or sometimes
you may be sitting behind somebody at a light and
they're not moving and until you know, you give them
a little small, maybe you know, honk, and then they
look up because everybody's in their car and everybody's on
their phone. So I'm actually, you know, I'm actually happy
(45:31):
about this lit. I think this is going to save
some lives and you know, reduce some people from getting
badly injured.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, It's kind of wild when you see somebody in
traffic driving erradically and you know it used to be
back in the day, and man, are they drinking. And
then you look and they're just texting on their phone
in the middle of the traffic, like freeway, side streets,
school zone. That just on their phone, texting away like
not a care in the world.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
With kids in the car. With kids in the car,
tell you how often I have seen you know, the
mom or the dad in the front seat, you know,
on their phone, kid in a you know, in a
car seat, another kid in the back. And it's just listen,
cell phones have taken over our lives, whether someone's in
(46:17):
the car looking at social media, whether they're texting. It
just seems like everybody gets this fomo with not having
their phone in their hand. And I really do hope.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
That this law is you know, strongly strongly in the
forest so that you know, everybody puts the phone aside.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
All right, Jacob, thanks for coming on, Thanks for the
advice today, and we'll keep an eye in theker Center situation.
Speaker 7 (46:45):
Yeah you forgot.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
You know, we've got Jake Loreva. That doesn't excite you.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Come on, listen, if there was one guy, and I'm
serious about this, if there was one guy before free
agents started, right went, that's the guy. It was Jake.
That was the one guy, the hottest guy in the market,
Jacob and the Lakers guy.
Speaker 6 (47:05):
That's right. And we share a name, so I like
that too.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
That's all that matters now. He's a proud partner of
the Lakers, just like you.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
That's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
How do you take care?
Speaker 6 (47:16):
Jacob?
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Oh, don't forget. We have tickets to give away to
see Clayton Kershaw pitch tomorrow night. We're not doing it now.
Do not start calling. Anybody that calls now will be
banned later because to be a winner you have to
be a good listener. And it's not time to call.
We're just letting you know you'll have the chance to
call later. Does that make sense? Jones?
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (47:37):
How you get a ba hm?
Speaker 1 (47:39):
The Kevin obannam Okay,
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