July 1, 2025 • 39 mins
Jovan Buha hops on to talk about the Lakers' pursuit of DeAndre Ayton, the signing on Jake Lavaria, Lebron's future in LA and more. Is Clayton Kershaw a top 5 Dodger of all time? Is he on the mount rushmore? The LA Kings lost two key defensemen, but did sign a 'seasoned' veteran.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And we continue on Fred Rugan Jonas Naxen today for
Rodney on AM five seventy LA Sports. All right, let's
continue on with NBA and the free agency. Yovann Booja
host Bujas Block joins the program. Friend of the show, Jovann,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm doing it well. Thank you guys for having me, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
For coming on. So give them where we're at right
now with the Lakers, do you think DeAndre Eyighton is
the guy?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah? I do.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I still think that's their top target in talking to
people around the team, talking to people around the league.
I mean, he is the best center available right now
in free agency and that remains a glaring hole for them.
So that's their top target that they are trying to
close with over the next twenty four hours or so.
He clears waivers at five pm Eastern time on Wednesday.
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But there was a recent report in the last hour
or so from the Athletic the Lakers are seriously considering
Al Horford, and I think up until recently it seemed
more like a contingency plan, just because I think it's
going to be difficult to sign both guys based on
the financial resources they have. They have about eight point
twenty five million remaining of that non taxpayer MLE. They
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spent the other portion of it on Jake la Ravia yesterday,
and then they also have this five point one million
dollar bi annual exception. So I don't think that's enough
to get Eton and Horford. I think if they can
somehow pull it off, those would be two solid additions.
I view Horford Moore's backup, but it does seem like
if they strike out in Ayton, maybe Horford is the
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guy that sloughts in there, though again I view him
more as a backup than a true starting center. So
for now, it looks like it's kind of eight and or.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Bust and you know, maybe Horford.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
But I really think if they don't get eight and
they have to look at a trade going into next season.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
So let's say they do land Deandreton, which Fred has
been you know, pounding the table for feels like weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Now. Oh yeah, Let's say.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
They land Deandrey And how far before free agency started
as the off season got underway, how far down the
list was he on their wish list for centers to
acquire this offseason.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I think it's a difficult question to answer. Just because
of his salary. I think among a lot of the
other players, they've been looking at guys like Walker Kessler,
Onyeka a Conglu.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Jalen Duran.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Those guys are all either on rookie contracts or you know,
recently extended and are making like reasonably team friendly deals.
Where DeAndre eight and at thirty five million dollars, just
to match that salary, I think it was pretty difficult
for him, So I don't think he was ever someone
they were seriously looking at just because of the salary.
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But if he's going to be making eight point three
million dollars for them, that is a totally different equation.
So I don't think he was ever at the top
of the list or near the top of the list.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Probably more of a middle option for them.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
But again that was in part based on I think
salary and circumstance more than skill set or ability, uh one,
you know, for me personally, among I think realistic options,
I have him third, you know, had him third going
into the off season behind Nick Claxton and Brooklyn and
Daniel Gafford in Dallas. I don't think Kessler or a
Conglu or Jalen Duran are realistic The Lakers have already
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made inquiries about those guys going back to last season,
and they.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Offered the Mark Williams package.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Of that what wasn't enough, And that's the best they
can do currently of a Dalton connect, a first and
a swap. You know, you could maybe throw in more swaps,
but their swaps aren't really worth much because of Luca,
you know, on the books for the first seeable future.
So I think they're in a tough position for sure
with the center spot, and I think Ayton is a
nice stop gap, but I don't think he quite elevates
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them to the level of like an OKC or Houston
right now with the way that those teams are looking.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So that being said, given the way the Lakers are constructed,
just as you view it, they'll be better than last year.
But you don't think they can win it?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, I mean, I never want to.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Say never, especially with Lebron James and his track record
in the postseason. Luca, We've seen him go to the
conference finals and finals with a proper supporting cast. I
think if they do continue to make moves here, you know, again,
they probably can sign a couple of notable free agents,
you know, eight and plus someone else if they nail
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that other signing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And I do think they need to.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Make a trade as constructed, I think if they just
run it back with Ayton and la Ravia and some
other free agent replacing Dori and Phinney Smith and Jackson Hayes, like, yes,
they're going to be a bit deeper, a bit younger,
maybe a little bit more athletic, but I don't think
it's enough of an upgrade. I think if we're talking
about this team really making a jump in terms of
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their playoff viability, I think they need to put the
first round pick on the table, Dalton connect on the
table and see what they could get for those two,
you know, primary assets in addition to expiring contracts. So
I think we'll, you know, we'll see here in the
coming days, coming weeks, how serious they are about going
for it the season. Obviously they have this kind of
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second very plan of keeping cap space and their cap
sheet drive for twenty twenty seven. I think you can
still compete and keep your cap sheet clean, and you
know it's difficult, but I think it is possible. So
that's gonna be stilling. A monitor, though, is how aggressive
they are and actually upgrading the roster because again based
on their limited free agency tools, like they can make
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some additions and they can make some improvements, but I
do think they need to make one substantial upgrade and
that has to come, in my opinion, in the form
of a trade.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What are you hearing as to why brook Lopez decided
on the Clippers over the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Minors, thaying was just them prioritizing DeAndre Ayden over brook Lopez.
Brook Lopez was their primary target before the buyout with
Portland and Ayton, you know, going into freightency that day before,
you know, the twenty four hours before, I was hearing
Lopez was the likely guy that was going to be
signing with LA.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
But during that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Time, Ayton agreed to the buyout and that shifted things. So,
I mean, really plan A for them was keeping Dorian
Phinney Smith because my understanding, as I reported yesterday, like
Luca wanted them to keep Dorian Phinney Smith, and it
was their plan A to figure something out with Dorian
Phinney Smith. The issue was they didn't want to offer
him more than a two year deal, and he wanted
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at least a three year deal, if not four and
as we saw, he signed with Houston for four So
once they realized DFS was gone and was going to Houston,
they pivoted to the Center market, and having that fourteen
point one million dollar exception, we're looking at Brook Lopez.
I think they would have been able to get him.
They would have been able to pay more than that
nine million that the Clippers offered. It was just once
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eight and become available, they were looking at like, I mean,
same agent as Luca, He's younger. I think he has
better mobility defensively at this stage of his career, more
talented and skilled offensive players. So I think, you know,
eight makes more sense to me than Brook Lopez does.
But it is a risk if he ends up going
to Golden State or Indiana, one of these teams that
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can offer you a little bit more than the Lakers can.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You mentioned Houston. They've been pretty busy now during this
period of time. They're going to be pretty good next year.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Jovan, I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I think they've had the best offseason. I don't think
that's a hot take. Like adding Kevin Durant, getting Fred
Van Vliet to take a pay cut and renegotiating his contract,
extending Steven Adams extending Jabari Smith adding Dori Infinny Smith,
which I think was like a double move for them,
where it weakens the Lakers and also strengthens them. Then
now the Capella move with the sign and trade, Like
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they have the deepest center group in the league now,
which Shongoon, Steven Adams, and Clint Capella. They're deep, they're tough,
they're athletic, they're long. I think they're the second best
team in the West right now, behind Oka See obviously.
So yeah, I think Houston's had a heck of an offseason,
and I think they're really well positioned to go in
a deep playoff run.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Have you heard any And I love asking this stuff
because the rumors and all that, I mean, this is
what keeps people interested, especially this time of year. But
have you heard have you heard any juicy rumors, any
speculation out there about a potential blockbuster deal or a
surprising deal. I saw that you know, Jannis is reportedly
not thrilled with the decision by Milwaukee to release Damian Lillard.
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But have you heard anything that could come as a
surprise over the next few days.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Not anything I would feel comfortable sharing. I will say,
people are now monitoring the honest situation very closely, and
I think that was a panic move on Milwaukee's part,
Like it's functionally going to be a fifty million dollar
contract over the next few years for Miles Turner when
you're add in his salary plus the twenty three million
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cap hit because of the Dame contracts. So like it's sorry,
there's just a graphic from one of these you know,
big social accounts with like you know, Giannis and Miles
Turner like new duo in in Milwaukee, Like how you
know what seed are they going to be in the East.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And I was just like, I mean, this is like.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
A sixth seed, maybe a seventh seed in the East.
Like Miles Turner had stretches as maybe like the third
best guy in Indiana, but I think a lot of
that time, like really struggle in the finals. I think
at times was their fourth or fifth best player, and
like I like him. Yeah, I think it's better than
Brook Lopez and certainly much younger. But it's not like
this is some crazy move that's elevating the Bucks. So
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I think they still have a lot of work to
do with their roster. And so I think that's a
potential domino here. Of he's going to be monitoring that,
and teams are certainly going to be monitoring that. I
think the other one's Lebron right, like what I think?
You're the Lakers. You can't feel again like there's some
improvement here and if they get eight and I think
it's a solid off season, but I still think they
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have some ways to go with how some of these
other West teams Denver got better with Cam Johnson, Bruce Brown,
Jonas Alimchiunis. You know, Minnesota is made back to back
conference finals. Like, I don't see how you could put
the Lakers any higher than like fifth in the West
right now, and that could be generous, to be honest.
So if you're Lebron, like, how do you feel about
your contention right now with this group? And do you
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potentially ask out? I know as of now there's been
no conversation about that, but that statement seems to indicate
that could be a possibility at some point. So if
the Lakers strike out on eton or don't make a trade,
I think that could be something he considers, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And if that's the case, it's funny because two years
ago you go, oh God, don't let that happen. He
can't he can't consider that, he can't go. I mean,
who else do you have now? If he considers it
and goes, they're just a step closer now to putting
it back together with Lucas the Colanderstone, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, I think the one thing that will be interesting
to see is like, who are the teams get involved?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
What are the realistic trade packages.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I think we were all surprised by the return that
Kevin Durant got from Houston, and Houston was able to
keep their primary young assets and then most I mean,
they only put one pick in the deal, So I
think people were a bit underwhelmed by the Kevin Durant package.
And I think Lebron is better right now than Kevin Durant,
but he is four years older, he does have many
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more miles and minutes on him, and he might only
play another year or two compared to Katie who's probably
going to play another three to five years. So like
you could if you really want to argue that Katie
has more trade value just because he's younger and is
going to play for longer, you can make that argument.
I think reasonably. So for Lebron, it's just gonna be
interesting to see, like what a potential package would look
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like if he does at some point ask out, because
I do think the Lakers probably take a step back
for this next season now, depending on the pieces they
get back. Maybe they have that cap space for twenty
twenty six or more importantly apparently of them twenty twenty seven,
and they're well equipped to get that second star and
pivot to the next iteration of Lakers basketball around Luca.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But I do think there would be a short term
hit of.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Any we could talk about them maybe as like a
fringe contender right now. I think if you trade Lebron,
there's almost no scenario in which you're getting back enough
for them to still be a fringe contender this season.
So I think it would kind of be punting on
this year. But again, you know, to future assets, maybe
you're getting picks, you're getting young players, you're getting some
cat flexibility. That's where you know, maybe down the road
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it pays dividends.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I mean, and the way that you lay it out,
if as of right now they're the fifth best team
in the Western Conference, you know, just you know now
that we're looking at how okay See looks Houston, et cetera.
If they're the fifth best team in the Western Conference,
you know, maybe it might be enticing not only for
them to take the hit for one year build around Luca,
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but have a bunch of assets in return. But if
you're Lebron and this is all about you wanting to
go out with a real shot at winning a title,
man the Eastern Conference is totally up in the air.
And who's to say you couldn't find somebody out East
that would be willing to part with a bunch of
pieces to bring in Lebron James to make a run
at it. With all the injuries and all the stuff
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that popped up in the East, that feels like maybe
an easier path for him if he really wants to
get back to the finals.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I agree. I agree, it's difficult to fit.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Like the four teams that I mentioned on my podcast
were New York, Cleveland, Golden State, and Dallas, I think
those are fourteenth Like I think it has to be
big market teams. I don't see Lebron going to Memphis
or Oklahoma City or Orlando like I think Lebron if he.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Does go somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's going to be a big city team, it's going
to be a playoff team, and it's going to be
a team that needs him to get to that next level. Cleveland,
of course, is an exception in terms of a small
market just because of that's home and the history and whatnot.
But Golden State, New York, Dallas, those are all big markets.
Golden State, you could do Jimmy Butler straight up. That
lets the Lakers compete in the short term and you
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know term they can kind of figure out what they
want to do with Jimmy Dallas. That would probably more
role players and picks. New York you could do something
with Og and Anobi, or you could do something with
Karl Anthony Towns. Cleveland's actually the toughest one to do.
It's maybe the most obvious in terms of like just
his relationship with the city. But they're a second Apron team,
so they'd have to either do some type of salary trade,
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you know, dumping before the deal or within the deal
making a three team trade and send out a lot
of out going salary. So that one's pretty tricky to
figure out. There are some possibilities, though for sure, it's
just like Lebron controls this.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Lebron has a no trade clause.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So we can theorize what is best for the Lakers
or what they should do, but they can't trade him
without his approval. So this is going to ultimately come
down to how does Lebron view the roster, does he
want to be there to does he believe in it?
And if he doesn't, where does he want to go?
Because ultimately he dictates whether that trade goes through or not.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
All right, Jovann, appreciate you coming on. Thanks for the
info today.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Appreciate you guys.
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All right, Jovan Bouja Booja's Block Podcast. What is this
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It's not really an issue, it's just a guilty admission.
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Speaker 1 (16:06):
Jonas Knox in today for Rodney and I don't forget.
We got tickets to see Clayton Kershaw go for strikeout
number three thousand tomorrow night at the stadium against the
White Sox one pair, and you'll have a chance to
win them between now and three. Don't call early, We'll
give you a cue at that point. Let the game begin.
There will only be one winner on this show today, Jonas.
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Everybody's a winner that listens, but only one person will
come away with the tickets.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeah, I mean, do you feel bad for the people
that do call in and don't win? Do you feel
at least a little bit bad form?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Or is it cut? Actually?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I wish we could give everybody the tickets.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's serious.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
These aren't bobbleheads, you know, Sue. The first forty thousand
still applies here on this show.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Is that how it works?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, that's how we That's how we roll. That's that's
how we roll here on the old show. Damn the
first forty thousand? Yeah, uh okay, so you've got over under.
When does Kershaw get that three thousand strikeout?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
If you were to set it at under three and
a half innings, I would say the under. I think
that's probably about right. You could set it under three
and a half, or if you set the over under
at three and a half, because that would mean a
strike at an inning, I would take the under in
that you go under.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, I would too. Yeah, he'll certainly get it within
the first three innings.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I mean, look, I don't want this to happen, but
you know, it is baseball, and you just never know.
Sometimes you have it, sometimes you don't. Maybe nerves will
factor in. I mean, you know what if he goes
out and just gets blasted.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
There, then what it won't happen.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I don't think so either. But you know there's I
mean it's always there's always you know, there's a potential
like maybe you know, hangs a curve ball and next
thing you know, you know, it's in the it's in
the bullpen, and we're like, okay, this is just.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Not his night. He's going until he gets it tomorrow.
It doesn't really matter. He's not coming out. He gets
up nine runs in the first inning, he's still pitching.
Oh you think so, Oh, yeah, he's gotten those three tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Tomorrow like the like they're not even warming anybody up tomorrow.
It's like, no, we're just gonna ride kersh out. He's
gonna throw one hundred and eighty pitches and we're just
gonna keep going until he ends up getting this record.
And it's got to be tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah. Oh, it's got to be at home. Sure, place
will be packed, people will want to see it. Yeah.
He he literally could go one hundred and eighty pitches.
It won't matter.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I mean, it is kind of it would be appropriate.
It doesn't line up, but it would be appropriate. If
maybe he got it against the Astro over the weekend,
that'd be kind of nice, you know, one last f
you to the Astros. But I don't think it lines up,
you know, because we're going every five days. Yeah, that
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that sets him next to start a game in Milwaukee
after the weekend. But you know, in a perfect world,
maybe he ends up with two strikeouts and then Dave
Roberts is like, you don't what we'll bring him out
of the pen against Houston. You know, well, listen, we're
going bullpen games now. We'll just have Kershaw to do
a side session against Houston and then he picks up
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three thousand against the Astros. That would be appropriate, but
probably not gonna happen. He'll get it against the White
Sox and he'll do it within with under three and
a half innings.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I mean he might strike out altering the first inning.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Just get it done, seriously, and you just see people
leaving afterwards, all right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And then the minute he gets it done, he should
just walk off. That's it. That's it for me tonight.
I put in my work. I'm leaving now. I'm we'll
save myself. Call up Gasparius or Robleski or Jack Dryer,
the three guys, and Jack Dryer hadn't pitched in a game.
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I think it's like the first game this year hasn't pitched,
and so he got to get ready. He pitches every game.
Jack Dryer pitches every game. You turn a Ronnie standing
right there, he's in every game.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Jonas Like, if you think about the career Kershaw has
had here, I know like Otani, feels like a spectacle.
Like it feels like when you watch him when he
was out there the first time he pitched, Like you
saw everybody there at the start of the game, ready
to go, ready to watch, you know, cameras out, everybody
wanted to see that. It feels like a spectacle when
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he when he when he goes, when he was brought
back out on the mound, anytime he's at bat, that
feels like a full blown spectacle. Kershaw feels like that's
going to be emotional, Like that's good because Dodger fans
have been riding with Kershaw for years now, Like there's
a lot invested into the career of Clayton Kershaw from
an emotional standpoint, and there's been ups, there's been downs,
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but he's been here the entire time. That feels like
it's going to be there's it's going to be a
different watch than Otani was. When Otanni was brought back
to pitch. It doesn't feel like the spectacle. It feels
emotional that the people are going to feel a certain
way about seeing Kershaw out there because I don't think
anybody thought he was going to look like this when
he returned, and maybe there was some speculation whether he'd
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ever return based on how his body has been failing
him over the.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Past Walter failures. O there, one hundred percent fair.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
And now he's here and the baseball gods have given
him the awful White Sox to break three thousand.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I mean, it's it's all lined up for him. It's
tailor made now and he deserves it. What does he ranking?
The great la athletes? Who are the great la athletes?
What does he rank? I mean, you know, run him
down in your head, Kolby, Shack, Magic Worthy, Kareem. I mean,
you could Michael Cooper, that whole team, that whole Laker team.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Travis Knight, well, just.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
You know, and then you've got the great Dodgers A C.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Green, Michael Cage.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Well Clipper Michael Cage, Yeah, uh yeah. Where would you
rank with you know, Michael Cage, Clayton Kershaw, what do
you think?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Jerry Curl kind of tilts and tilts the favor towards
Michael Cage if we're being honest, you know, but sure,
if we're having the fair discussion in all seriousness, though,
if you were to just narrow down to Dodgers over
the past several years? Where does Kershaw rank for you?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well, why are we doing it the last several years?
Why don't we?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
You say, Dodgers, Okay, Dodgers all time? Where does Kershaw
rank for you?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Top?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Who else is in that mix?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well one of Sandy Kofak's Okay, don't you think?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. But I'm saying, you covering
this team and as many great Dodger players over the
past few decades, where does Kershaw rank for you? Because listen,
it is there the Kershaw story. You can't tell it
without telling the issues that he's had occasionally in the
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postseason because those have been those have been bad, and
those have been well documented. So you just wonder, how
does that how do you base your opinion on him?
And that's like when we were having the discussion the
other day about Max shus or a Clayton Kershaw, who's
had the better career. I would say Kershaw has been
the better pitcher. But there's some people that are going
to say, well, you know, Max Schures there has been
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better in the postseason than Kershaw. That's why he would
get the edge. It's like, if you look at their credentials.
They're very similar. But there is sort of a narrative
attached to Kershaw, right or wrong. I mean, I think
he's had some a lot of great performances that people
overlook because they just look at the bad stuff. But
you know, the story of Kershaw is an interesting one
because he's played in so many big games. He's not
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just a compiler of Hey, I played for one organization
for a long time. He played in huge games for
years now in the postseason. So that's why it's kind
of interesting to see where he falls in the ranks.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
All right, Well here's what I did. I went to AI.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Oh okay, I'm curious sor right, you.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Know, we can sit here and kick it around. I
had Sandy Kofax number one. Okay, according to AI, that
was wrong, and probably so Jackie Robinson. I think Jackie
Robinson probably is at the top of the list, then
Sandy Kolfax, then Clayton Kershaw. Right there.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Okay, what if it just specific to you Dodgers you
have covered in your time here in town. Well I
didn't cover, That's what I'm saying with Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
So sat Narre was a down because I was gonna
say list of great Dodgers or potential you know, Hall
of Fame, Mount Rushmore Dodgers. I means a lot of guys,
especially if you're at the Brooklyn days in. I mean,
I don't know if Kershaw breaks that top five, he
might not break the top ten depending on a certain listen.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
I think it'd be hard to argue against.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, if you were to just narrow down to it,
to this certain window, the Rogan window.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I was here for Fernando, I was there for Piazza,
for Clayton Kershaw, borrel.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Kershaw had a better career than Fernando Valenzwala no offense,
but I don't even think it's close.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
But Kershaw I did have a better career. I don't know,
it's funny Kersh I had a better career. I don't
know if he meant as much to the city as Fernando.
Not to diminish Kershaw's career, but Fernando met an awful
lot to Los Angeles and the Latino fan base. I mean,
he he absolutely captivated the entire market. I was here
(25:59):
for Steve Garvey.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So basically what Fred just said for anybody listening on
a five seventy. Is that only white people like Clayton
Kershaw is basically what he just said.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Okay, that's really not what Kevin did. You did?
Speaker 7 (26:10):
I say that that's what it sounded like to me.
But I also I'm hard to hearing these days, So.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I can't believe you threw me under the bus.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
That was awful.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You know, that was really bad, Kevin. I can't believe you.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Took obviously you walked right in obviously not uh no.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
But and also you look at Fernando, and that.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Was Maury Wills, Mariy Wills.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
See, Fernando was more of a comet to where it
happened so fast that I don't know the Kershaw ever
reached that level, that pinnacle. It's like when when Mannywood
was here man for a short time, that was like
the that was the thing though, Like that was that
that was kind of like Otani. It just you know,
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it doesn't last as long. Kershaw has been steady the
entire time. And so that's why I wonder, based on
the Rogan window, where he would fall, because he's got
to be up there, man. I can't think of too
many guys that would be in competition.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
No, Now a guy that made a great impact. You
talk about Manny Ramirez, I'll tell you who may have
had besides Otani, the greatest quickest single impact was Yasiel Pueigue. Yes, yeah,
I went to Dodger games where he didn't even play.
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He wasn't in the lineup, he didn't pinch it. You
didn't see him. And it's where people were walking through
the crowd at the end of the game, they were
all screaming Pueague. He didn't even play. Yasiel Pweigue captured
the imagination of the city. Now he had a number
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of issues, obviously, but he captured the imagination. I would say,
quickest to vaut to the top. Now, whether they stayed
there or not, Fernando's a very good point. I think Puigue.
I think Manny Ramirez, I mean, boom, they were here
and just exploded, exploded to the top. But as you
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look at the guys that I've been here and covered, yeah,
I think Clayton Kershaw would obviously be the best of them.
It wasn't around for Duke Snyder.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I mean you go back to Yasiel Puig's numbers, I
mean not even all that impressive to be honest with you, Like,
what would you say if you had to say right
now his time with the Dodgers, Yasiel Puig's best home
run RBI number his time with the Dodgers here, what
would you say it was?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Best home runs?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah? Twenty four, twenty four? How many RBIs eighty one? Okay,
twenty eight and seventy four. I was closed in twenty seventeen.
I mean it's not like doesn't it's nothing to scoff at,
but the rock Star action that you point to to
where it was just the buzz in the stadium. You know,
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he only made one All Star and then you know,
I love how Baseball Reference does this as well too.
They'll show you where they ranked in the MVP voting
mass that year. Yeah, y'all see l Puige in twenty
thirteen as a rookie, ranked fifteenth and then nineteenth the
next year. At that point, are you even ranked? You
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know what I mean? Like, like, what would have to happen?
That's like when Lance Armstrong won the Tour de France
and they found out that everybody pissed hot behind him,
and then they ended up years later giving it to
the guy who finished seventeenth It's like, y'all see how
we finished nineteenth and MVP voting and they've got that listed, Like,
you know, how many things would have had to have
happened from the actually be voted MVP.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
He would have been designated survivor. It's like, right, it's.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Just why even lists that? Why is that even relevant?
But apparently he finished nineteenth his second year, in fifteenth
this first year.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You don't want to of the guy's props. I mean,
my god, at least he was in.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
There, Okay, I mean you know who finished who finished twentieth?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Me Michael Kaddie or finished twentieth that year was.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And don't think his family will never forget that.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Okay, I would listen, I got the list right now.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I'm not trying to. I'm just wondering, like, why why
do we even have a list of who finished twentieth?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I don't know, it's just was that what the list ended?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Kevin at twenty It ends at twenty four. Former Dodger
Russell Martin Guy was twenty fourth that year. He was
with the Pirates, he was with Pittsburgh. He was twenty
fourth in MVP voting that season.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That's a well deserved honor. Who won it that year?
Speaker 6 (30:36):
That was Andrew McCutcheon with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I'll see Pleeague was robbed.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Hey, by the way, you know Russell Martin.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
But Cutchion just stole all those you know, votes away
from his teammate Russell Martin.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
That's what happened.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
So do you know the Rookie of the Year voting
when Puigue was a rookie, he finished second. Do you
know won Rookie of the Year that year Jose Jose
Fernandez of the Marlins, and that.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Caught fire super early. Oh my god, it was electric.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
That guy. You talk about somebody who had a fan
base in the palm of his hands, like that guy
was a superstar, Jose Fernandez. Nolan Aernaudo way down the
list right there. Also, by the way, in a rookie.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And Rookie of the Year. Yeah right, what year was this?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Twenty thirteen?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
He looks older than he is, don't you think?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Still great? That's a Hall of way. Nolan Aernado is
going to be a Hall of Famer. Just in case
people were wondering guys had a great career.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, he really has.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
But do you know how old Nolan Aernado actually is
Fred five. Yeah, he's thirty four. How old do you
think he looks?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Thirty eight? Wow?
Speaker 6 (31:44):
All right?
Speaker 4 (31:46):
He doesn't necessarily laughing about I just the aide shaving
on this show today is just.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I'm not anybody. I was just surprised.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Damn, you look a lot older than I thought you were.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Fred's got Nolan Aeronado and Al Horford like be like
their mummies.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Right, It's like, damn, I don't know the Rocky Mountain Air.
It's like years off your life. Mann.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
The air was cleaner there like mummies.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
All right, when we come back the Kings. The Kings
have signed a free agent.
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Speaker 1 (32:41):
All right, Jonas Knoxen today for Rodney h Kings fans
excited they signed a free agent. They signed a free agent.
That's a big news somebody you know, don't know you
know how excited you'll be, But I think there should
be reason to smile. Let us j element returning to
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southern California on a one year, three and a half
million dollar deal none other than Corey Perry.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
All right, young and spry, let's go.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I'm talking about Clark Perry.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Now. There's something to be said for experience, don't don't
kid yourself. And there's also something that you know, he
played for Edmonton and they didn't win the Cup a
couple of times and thought he was the Jinx, but
that's not the issue. He did play for the Ducks,
you remember that the first fourteen years of his career
where he did win a Stanley Cup in two thousand
and seven. But he's forty years old. So you do
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need some as we'd like to say in the business
senior leadership, you know, you need you need that experienced pro,
that veteran you know, and that's who they went out
and got jonas well.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
It's just funny your your tone in the way that
you discuss Corey Perry's age is so much different from
the way you discuss the age of other people that
we've talked, most notably Al Horford. It's just I don't
know why that is. It's just interesting how how your
your tone change when it when it's discussing this. I mean,
Corey Perry is the same age as Al Horford and
(34:12):
Nolan Aronado combined. And the way you're talking about it is,
if there's optimism like forty's the new fourteen, it just very.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Well to be honest with you. I mean, if we're
gonna be honest, this does seem like and God bless
them for playing. It's great, and you know, I'm sure
he'll be great with the Kings. A little long in
the tooth a little bit. I'm not saying I'm not.
Nobody's saying i'm not. But you know, when you sign
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that free agent, you uncle Corey Perry is coming back
for one year. Although look, a veteran presence can help.
They lost the defenseman Gabrikov. They couldn't afford them. They
traded Spence. They need defensemen, that's what they need, and
they'll think find him, then he'll find him.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
The term long in the tooth is that a reference
to horses?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, okay, that's where it came from. Years ago, Yeah,
a little older. Yeah, I'm just wondering. You know, I
got bit by a horse.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I've heard that.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, yeah, got hit by a horse. Almost got kicked
in the head by a horse too. I don't know
why you had to bring up a horse. PTSD.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
You gotta be careful going blindfolding Tijuana, Fred, Okay, never
know what I'm saying. You're not the batting cages, now
I do. I am curious because I didn't get your
opinion on this. I didn't get your thoughts on this.
H You despise the Edmonton Oilers as a Kings fan
(35:44):
because because that's been the thorn in the side, and
even this year when it felt like, hey, this is
the year the Kings have got him on the ropes,
I think it was it was it Evander Caine who
kicked in a goal in that in that series against
the King, and I remember watching that going uh oh
that this feels like this feels like this could be
(36:05):
an issue as the series goes on, and of course
it turned out to be an issue. But seeing the
Edmonton Oilers, yeah, getting a clown suit put on them
by the Florida Panthers in the Stanley Cup. So see like,
is that almost better than the Kings winning a playoff series?
Seeing the Oilers lose, Like, it's got to be on
(36:26):
par with with what you would prefer like if you
because or at least second best, if you can't see
the Kings win, just to be able to see Edmonton lose,
it's got to feel good for you.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
It could not have made me feel better. It's not.
It's somehow dulled the pain of what happened to the Kings. Yeah,
Edmonton's dirty, Sorry say it. I don't care. It's true.
I don't like them, I don't like the way their
fans act. I'm glad they got beat I'm glad Florida
beat them good. They're a buffalo bill a hockey geez,
(37:02):
that's exactly what they are.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Wait a second, did they win like four Stanley Cups
of the eighties?
Speaker 1 (37:07):
That is now?
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Okay, so that was the new Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, they're the Buffalo Bills, and they wanted it so badly,
so badly they openly they just they would let their
blood out if they didn't win.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Well, the NHL wants it as well, too, Like, let's
let's be fair here, the NHL wants to Connor McDavid
because he's the star. The NHL would like Connor McDavid
to win his Stanley Cup. That's why when Crosby won his,
it was the commotion that it was, and then he
ended up winning two more. He's the face of the league.
They'd like to see their face of the league win
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a Stanley Cup. And then they meet the Florida Panthers.
Matthew Kachuck has got a hernia from outer space or
some other abduct or injury that he's got, and they
annihilated the Panthers. Like some of those gives were even close,
not even close. It's like, you don't mean to you
don't think the NHL looks at those two fan bases
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or markets and goes, listen, all respect to Florida fans,
but it's Edmonton. This is the phase of the league.
We'd like for that fan base to have something to
celebrate with. Meanwhile, Panthers fans are walking around in flip
flops and they're at the Elbow Room bar in Fort
Lauderdale just getting ripped in half while watching these games,
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probably not even knowing who's winning. Edmonton fans are having
their heart ripped out again, and you're celebrating it here
on the radio. It's insulting.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
That's the way it is. Okay, we got these tickets
to give away, not yet, but we will give them
away this hour. Somebody's gonna win a pair of tickets.
See Clayton Kershaw wrack up win number three thousand tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
That's a strikeout number three thousand, by the way, not
win number three thousand.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Would I say win?
Speaker 7 (38:57):
Yeah, that that will be otherworldly incredible, But that was
the taste.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
You imagine if we ever got three thousand wins.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
Strike out number three thin, you'd have to pitch for
twenty more years to get there.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
At
And we continue on Fred Rugan Jonas Naxen today for
Rodney on AM five seventy LA Sports. All right, let's
continue on with NBA and the free agency. Yovann Booja
host Bujas Block joins the program. Friend of the show, Jovann,
how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm doing it well. Thank you guys for having me, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
For coming on. So give them where we're at right
now with the Lakers, do you think DeAndre Eyighton is
the guy?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah? I do.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I still think that's their top target in talking to
people around the team, talking to people around the league.
I mean, he is the best center available right now
in free agency and that remains a glaring hole for them.
So that's their top target that they are trying to
close with over the next twenty four hours or so.
He clears waivers at five pm Eastern time on Wednesday.
(00:55):
But there was a recent report in the last hour
or so from the Athletic the Lakers are seriously considering
Al Horford, and I think up until recently it seemed
more like a contingency plan, just because I think it's
going to be difficult to sign both guys based on
the financial resources they have. They have about eight point
twenty five million remaining of that non taxpayer MLE. They
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spent the other portion of it on Jake la Ravia yesterday,
and then they also have this five point one million
dollar bi annual exception. So I don't think that's enough
to get Eton and Horford. I think if they can
somehow pull it off, those would be two solid additions.
I view Horford Moore's backup, but it does seem like
if they strike out in Ayton, maybe Horford is the
(01:39):
guy that sloughts in there, though again I view him
more as a backup than a true starting center. So
for now, it looks like it's kind of eight and or.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Bust and you know, maybe Horford.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
But I really think if they don't get eight and
they have to look at a trade going into next season.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
So let's say they do land Deandreton, which Fred has
been you know, pounding the table for feels like weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Now. Oh yeah, Let's say.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
They land Deandrey And how far before free agency started
as the off season got underway, how far down the
list was he on their wish list for centers to
acquire this offseason.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I think it's a difficult question to answer. Just because
of his salary. I think among a lot of the
other players, they've been looking at guys like Walker Kessler,
Onyeka a Conglu.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Jalen Duran.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Those guys are all either on rookie contracts or you know,
recently extended and are making like reasonably team friendly deals.
Where DeAndre eight and at thirty five million dollars, just
to match that salary, I think it was pretty difficult
for him, So I don't think he was ever someone
they were seriously looking at just because of the salary.
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But if he's going to be making eight point three
million dollars for them, that is a totally different equation.
So I don't think he was ever at the top
of the list or near the top of the list.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Probably more of a middle option for them.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
But again that was in part based on I think
salary and circumstance more than skill set or ability, uh one,
you know, for me personally, among I think realistic options,
I have him third, you know, had him third going
into the off season behind Nick Claxton and Brooklyn and
Daniel Gafford in Dallas. I don't think Kessler or a
Conglu or Jalen Duran are realistic The Lakers have already
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made inquiries about those guys going back to last season,
and they.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Offered the Mark Williams package.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Of that what wasn't enough, And that's the best they
can do currently of a Dalton connect, a first and
a swap. You know, you could maybe throw in more swaps,
but their swaps aren't really worth much because of Luca,
you know, on the books for the first seeable future.
So I think they're in a tough position for sure
with the center spot, and I think Ayton is a
nice stop gap, but I don't think he quite elevates
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them to the level of like an OKC or Houston
right now with the way that those teams are looking.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So that being said, given the way the Lakers are constructed,
just as you view it, they'll be better than last year.
But you don't think they can win it?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, I mean, I never want to.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Say never, especially with Lebron James and his track record
in the postseason. Luca, We've seen him go to the
conference finals and finals with a proper supporting cast. I
think if they do continue to make moves here, you know, again,
they probably can sign a couple of notable free agents,
you know, eight and plus someone else if they nail
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that other signing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
And I do think they need to.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Make a trade as constructed, I think if they just
run it back with Ayton and la Ravia and some
other free agent replacing Dori and Phinney Smith and Jackson Hayes, like, yes,
they're going to be a bit deeper, a bit younger,
maybe a little bit more athletic, but I don't think
it's enough of an upgrade. I think if we're talking
about this team really making a jump in terms of
(04:55):
their playoff viability, I think they need to put the
first round pick on the table, Dalton connect on the
table and see what they could get for those two,
you know, primary assets in addition to expiring contracts. So
I think we'll, you know, we'll see here in the
coming days, coming weeks, how serious they are about going
for it the season. Obviously they have this kind of
(05:16):
second very plan of keeping cap space and their cap
sheet drive for twenty twenty seven. I think you can
still compete and keep your cap sheet clean, and you
know it's difficult, but I think it is possible. So
that's gonna be stilling. A monitor, though, is how aggressive
they are and actually upgrading the roster because again based
on their limited free agency tools, like they can make
(05:37):
some additions and they can make some improvements, but I
do think they need to make one substantial upgrade and
that has to come, in my opinion, in the form
of a trade.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
What are you hearing as to why brook Lopez decided
on the Clippers over the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Minors, thaying was just them prioritizing DeAndre Ayden over brook Lopez.
Brook Lopez was their primary target before the buyout with
Portland and Ayton, you know, going into freightency that day before,
you know, the twenty four hours before, I was hearing
Lopez was the likely guy that was going to be
signing with LA.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
But during that.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Time, Ayton agreed to the buyout and that shifted things. So,
I mean, really plan A for them was keeping Dorian
Phinney Smith because my understanding, as I reported yesterday, like
Luca wanted them to keep Dorian Phinney Smith, and it
was their plan A to figure something out with Dorian
Phinney Smith. The issue was they didn't want to offer
him more than a two year deal, and he wanted
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at least a three year deal, if not four and
as we saw, he signed with Houston for four So
once they realized DFS was gone and was going to Houston,
they pivoted to the Center market, and having that fourteen
point one million dollar exception, we're looking at Brook Lopez.
I think they would have been able to get him.
They would have been able to pay more than that
nine million that the Clippers offered. It was just once
(06:53):
eight and become available, they were looking at like, I mean,
same agent as Luca, He's younger. I think he has
better mobility defensively at this stage of his career, more
talented and skilled offensive players. So I think, you know,
eight makes more sense to me than Brook Lopez does.
But it is a risk if he ends up going
to Golden State or Indiana, one of these teams that
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can offer you a little bit more than the Lakers can.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You mentioned Houston. They've been pretty busy now during this
period of time. They're going to be pretty good next year.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Jovan, I agree.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I think they've had the best offseason. I don't think
that's a hot take. Like adding Kevin Durant, getting Fred
Van Vliet to take a pay cut and renegotiating his contract,
extending Steven Adams extending Jabari Smith adding Dori Infinny Smith,
which I think was like a double move for them,
where it weakens the Lakers and also strengthens them. Then
now the Capella move with the sign and trade, Like
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they have the deepest center group in the league now,
which Shongoon, Steven Adams, and Clint Capella. They're deep, they're tough,
they're athletic, they're long. I think they're the second best
team in the West right now, behind Oka See obviously.
So yeah, I think Houston's had a heck of an offseason,
and I think they're really well positioned to go in
a deep playoff run.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Have you heard any And I love asking this stuff
because the rumors and all that, I mean, this is
what keeps people interested, especially this time of year. But
have you heard have you heard any juicy rumors, any
speculation out there about a potential blockbuster deal or a
surprising deal. I saw that you know, Jannis is reportedly
not thrilled with the decision by Milwaukee to release Damian Lillard.
(08:33):
But have you heard anything that could come as a
surprise over the next few days.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Not anything I would feel comfortable sharing. I will say,
people are now monitoring the honest situation very closely, and
I think that was a panic move on Milwaukee's part,
Like it's functionally going to be a fifty million dollar
contract over the next few years for Miles Turner when
you're add in his salary plus the twenty three million
(09:00):
cap hit because of the Dame contracts. So like it's sorry,
there's just a graphic from one of these you know,
big social accounts with like you know, Giannis and Miles
Turner like new duo in in Milwaukee, Like how you
know what seed are they going to be in the East.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And I was just like, I mean, this is like.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
A sixth seed, maybe a seventh seed in the East.
Like Miles Turner had stretches as maybe like the third
best guy in Indiana, but I think a lot of
that time, like really struggle in the finals. I think
at times was their fourth or fifth best player, and
like I like him. Yeah, I think it's better than
Brook Lopez and certainly much younger. But it's not like
this is some crazy move that's elevating the Bucks. So
(09:40):
I think they still have a lot of work to
do with their roster. And so I think that's a
potential domino here. Of he's going to be monitoring that,
and teams are certainly going to be monitoring that. I
think the other one's Lebron right, like what I think?
You're the Lakers. You can't feel again like there's some
improvement here and if they get eight and I think
it's a solid off season, but I still think they
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have some ways to go with how some of these
other West teams Denver got better with Cam Johnson, Bruce Brown,
Jonas Alimchiunis. You know, Minnesota is made back to back
conference finals. Like, I don't see how you could put
the Lakers any higher than like fifth in the West
right now, and that could be generous, to be honest.
So if you're Lebron, like, how do you feel about
your contention right now with this group? And do you
(10:23):
potentially ask out? I know as of now there's been
no conversation about that, but that statement seems to indicate
that could be a possibility at some point. So if
the Lakers strike out on eton or don't make a trade,
I think that could be something he considers, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And if that's the case, it's funny because two years
ago you go, oh God, don't let that happen. He
can't he can't consider that, he can't go. I mean,
who else do you have now? If he considers it
and goes, they're just a step closer now to putting
it back together with Lucas the Colanderstone, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, I think the one thing that will be interesting
to see is like, who are the teams get involved?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
What are the realistic trade packages.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I think we were all surprised by the return that
Kevin Durant got from Houston, and Houston was able to
keep their primary young assets and then most I mean,
they only put one pick in the deal, So I
think people were a bit underwhelmed by the Kevin Durant package.
And I think Lebron is better right now than Kevin Durant,
but he is four years older, he does have many
(11:25):
more miles and minutes on him, and he might only
play another year or two compared to Katie who's probably
going to play another three to five years. So like
you could if you really want to argue that Katie
has more trade value just because he's younger and is
going to play for longer, you can make that argument.
I think reasonably. So for Lebron, it's just gonna be
interesting to see, like what a potential package would look
(11:46):
like if he does at some point ask out, because
I do think the Lakers probably take a step back
for this next season now, depending on the pieces they
get back. Maybe they have that cap space for twenty
twenty six or more importantly apparently of them twenty twenty seven,
and they're well equipped to get that second star and
pivot to the next iteration of Lakers basketball around Luca.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But I do think there would be a short term
hit of.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Any we could talk about them maybe as like a
fringe contender right now. I think if you trade Lebron,
there's almost no scenario in which you're getting back enough
for them to still be a fringe contender this season.
So I think it would kind of be punting on
this year. But again, you know, to future assets, maybe
you're getting picks, you're getting young players, you're getting some
cat flexibility. That's where you know, maybe down the road
(12:33):
it pays dividends.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I mean, and the way that you lay it out,
if as of right now they're the fifth best team
in the Western Conference, you know, just you know now
that we're looking at how okay See looks Houston, et cetera.
If they're the fifth best team in the Western Conference,
you know, maybe it might be enticing not only for
them to take the hit for one year build around Luca,
(12:54):
but have a bunch of assets in return. But if
you're Lebron and this is all about you wanting to
go out with a real shot at winning a title,
man the Eastern Conference is totally up in the air.
And who's to say you couldn't find somebody out East
that would be willing to part with a bunch of
pieces to bring in Lebron James to make a run
at it. With all the injuries and all the stuff
(13:15):
that popped up in the East, that feels like maybe
an easier path for him if he really wants to
get back to the finals.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I agree. I agree, it's difficult to fit.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Like the four teams that I mentioned on my podcast
were New York, Cleveland, Golden State, and Dallas, I think
those are fourteenth Like I think it has to be
big market teams. I don't see Lebron going to Memphis
or Oklahoma City or Orlando like I think Lebron if he.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Does go somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It's going to be a big city team, it's going
to be a playoff team, and it's going to be
a team that needs him to get to that next level. Cleveland,
of course, is an exception in terms of a small
market just because of that's home and the history and whatnot.
But Golden State, New York, Dallas, those are all big markets.
Golden State, you could do Jimmy Butler straight up. That
lets the Lakers compete in the short term and you
(14:10):
know term they can kind of figure out what they
want to do with Jimmy Dallas. That would probably more
role players and picks. New York you could do something
with Og and Anobi, or you could do something with
Karl Anthony Towns. Cleveland's actually the toughest one to do.
It's maybe the most obvious in terms of like just
his relationship with the city. But they're a second Apron team,
so they'd have to either do some type of salary trade,
(14:33):
you know, dumping before the deal or within the deal
making a three team trade and send out a lot
of out going salary. So that one's pretty tricky to
figure out. There are some possibilities, though for sure, it's
just like Lebron controls this.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Lebron has a no trade clause.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So we can theorize what is best for the Lakers
or what they should do, but they can't trade him
without his approval. So this is going to ultimately come
down to how does Lebron view the roster, does he
want to be there to does he believe in it?
And if he doesn't, where does he want to go?
Because ultimately he dictates whether that trade goes through or not.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
All right, Jovann, appreciate you coming on. Thanks for the
info today.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
All right, Jovan Bouja Booja's Block Podcast. What is this
issue you appear to have with baseball and social media?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
It's not really an issue, it's just a guilty admission.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
All right, Well, let's talk about that when we come back,
talk Dodgers back home, open the home and stand against
the White Sox kershaw goes tomorrow night. Y'a'm a mooto tonight.
We'll talk about that and then your guilty pleasure.
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Speaker 1 (16:06):
Jonas Knox in today for Rodney and I don't forget.
We got tickets to see Clayton Kershaw go for strikeout
number three thousand tomorrow night at the stadium against the
White Sox one pair, and you'll have a chance to
win them between now and three. Don't call early, We'll
give you a cue at that point. Let the game begin.
There will only be one winner on this show today, Jonas.
(16:27):
Everybody's a winner that listens, but only one person will
come away with the tickets.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeah, I mean, do you feel bad for the people
that do call in and don't win? Do you feel
at least a little bit bad form?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Or is it cut? Actually?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I wish we could give everybody the tickets.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's serious.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
These aren't bobbleheads, you know, Sue. The first forty thousand
still applies here on this show.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Is that how it works?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, that's how we That's how we roll. That's that's
how we roll here on the old show. Damn the
first forty thousand? Yeah, uh okay, so you've got over under.
When does Kershaw get that three thousand strikeout?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
If you were to set it at under three and
a half innings, I would say the under. I think
that's probably about right. You could set it under three
and a half, or if you set the over under
at three and a half, because that would mean a
strike at an inning, I would take the under in
that you go under.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, I would too. Yeah, he'll certainly get it within
the first three innings.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I mean, look, I don't want this to happen, but
you know, it is baseball, and you just never know.
Sometimes you have it, sometimes you don't. Maybe nerves will
factor in. I mean, you know what if he goes
out and just gets blasted.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
There, then what it won't happen.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I don't think so either. But you know there's I
mean it's always there's always you know, there's a potential
like maybe you know, hangs a curve ball and next
thing you know, you know, it's in the it's in
the bullpen, and we're like, okay, this is just.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Not his night. He's going until he gets it tomorrow.
It doesn't really matter. He's not coming out. He gets
up nine runs in the first inning, he's still pitching.
Oh you think so, Oh, yeah, he's gotten those three tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Tomorrow like the like they're not even warming anybody up tomorrow.
It's like, no, we're just gonna ride kersh out. He's
gonna throw one hundred and eighty pitches and we're just
gonna keep going until he ends up getting this record.
And it's got to be tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah. Oh, it's got to be at home. Sure, place
will be packed, people will want to see it. Yeah.
He he literally could go one hundred and eighty pitches.
It won't matter.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I mean, it is kind of it would be appropriate.
It doesn't line up, but it would be appropriate. If
maybe he got it against the Astro over the weekend,
that'd be kind of nice, you know, one last f
you to the Astros. But I don't think it lines up,
you know, because we're going every five days. Yeah, that
(19:12):
that sets him next to start a game in Milwaukee
after the weekend. But you know, in a perfect world,
maybe he ends up with two strikeouts and then Dave
Roberts is like, you don't what we'll bring him out
of the pen against Houston. You know, well, listen, we're
going bullpen games now. We'll just have Kershaw to do
a side session against Houston and then he picks up
(19:33):
three thousand against the Astros. That would be appropriate, but
probably not gonna happen. He'll get it against the White
Sox and he'll do it within with under three and
a half innings.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I mean he might strike out altering the first inning.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Just get it done, seriously, and you just see people
leaving afterwards, all right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And then the minute he gets it done, he should
just walk off. That's it. That's it for me tonight.
I put in my work. I'm leaving now. I'm we'll
save myself. Call up Gasparius or Robleski or Jack Dryer,
the three guys, and Jack Dryer hadn't pitched in a game.
(20:10):
I think it's like the first game this year hasn't pitched,
and so he got to get ready. He pitches every game.
Jack Dryer pitches every game. You turn a Ronnie standing
right there, he's in every game.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Jonas Like, if you think about the career Kershaw has
had here, I know like Otani, feels like a spectacle.
Like it feels like when you watch him when he
was out there the first time he pitched, Like you
saw everybody there at the start of the game, ready
to go, ready to watch, you know, cameras out, everybody
wanted to see that. It feels like a spectacle when
(20:44):
he when he when he goes, when he was brought
back out on the mound, anytime he's at bat, that
feels like a full blown spectacle. Kershaw feels like that's
going to be emotional, Like that's good because Dodger fans
have been riding with Kershaw for years now, Like there's
a lot invested into the career of Clayton Kershaw from
an emotional standpoint, and there's been ups, there's been downs,
(21:07):
but he's been here the entire time. That feels like
it's going to be there's it's going to be a
different watch than Otani was. When Otanni was brought back
to pitch. It doesn't feel like the spectacle. It feels
emotional that the people are going to feel a certain
way about seeing Kershaw out there because I don't think
anybody thought he was going to look like this when
he returned, and maybe there was some speculation whether he'd
(21:28):
ever return based on how his body has been failing
him over the.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Past Walter failures. O there, one hundred percent fair.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
And now he's here and the baseball gods have given
him the awful White Sox to break three thousand.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I mean, it's it's all lined up for him. It's
tailor made now and he deserves it. What does he ranking?
The great la athletes? Who are the great la athletes?
What does he rank? I mean, you know, run him
down in your head, Kolby, Shack, Magic Worthy, Kareem. I mean,
you could Michael Cooper, that whole team, that whole Laker team.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Travis Knight, well, just.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
You know, and then you've got the great Dodgers A C.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Green, Michael Cage.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Well Clipper Michael Cage, Yeah, uh yeah. Where would you
rank with you know, Michael Cage, Clayton Kershaw, what do
you think?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Jerry Curl kind of tilts and tilts the favor towards
Michael Cage if we're being honest, you know, but sure,
if we're having the fair discussion in all seriousness, though,
if you were to just narrow down to Dodgers over
the past several years? Where does Kershaw rank for you?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well, why are we doing it the last several years?
Why don't we?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
You say, Dodgers, Okay, Dodgers all time? Where does Kershaw
rank for you?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Top?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Who else is in that mix?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well one of Sandy Kofak's Okay, don't you think?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. But I'm saying, you covering
this team and as many great Dodger players over the
past few decades, where does Kershaw rank for you? Because listen,
it is there the Kershaw story. You can't tell it
without telling the issues that he's had occasionally in the
(23:29):
postseason because those have been those have been bad, and
those have been well documented. So you just wonder, how
does that how do you base your opinion on him?
And that's like when we were having the discussion the
other day about Max shus or a Clayton Kershaw, who's
had the better career. I would say Kershaw has been
the better pitcher. But there's some people that are going
to say, well, you know, Max Schures there has been
(23:52):
better in the postseason than Kershaw. That's why he would
get the edge. It's like, if you look at their credentials.
They're very similar. But there is sort of a narrative
attached to Kershaw, right or wrong. I mean, I think
he's had some a lot of great performances that people
overlook because they just look at the bad stuff. But
you know, the story of Kershaw is an interesting one
because he's played in so many big games. He's not
(24:14):
just a compiler of Hey, I played for one organization
for a long time. He played in huge games for
years now in the postseason. So that's why it's kind
of interesting to see where he falls in the ranks.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
All right, Well here's what I did. I went to AI.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Oh okay, I'm curious sor right, you.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Know, we can sit here and kick it around. I
had Sandy Kofax number one. Okay, according to AI, that
was wrong, and probably so Jackie Robinson. I think Jackie
Robinson probably is at the top of the list, then
Sandy Kolfax, then Clayton Kershaw. Right there.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Okay, what if it just specific to you Dodgers you
have covered in your time here in town. Well I
didn't cover, That's what I'm saying with Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
So sat Narre was a down because I was gonna
say list of great Dodgers or potential you know, Hall
of Fame, Mount Rushmore Dodgers. I means a lot of guys,
especially if you're at the Brooklyn days in. I mean,
I don't know if Kershaw breaks that top five, he
might not break the top ten depending on a certain listen.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
I think it'd be hard to argue against.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, if you were to just narrow down to it,
to this certain window, the Rogan window.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I was here for Fernando, I was there for Piazza,
for Clayton Kershaw, borrel.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Kershaw had a better career than Fernando Valenzwala no offense,
but I don't even think it's close.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
But Kershaw I did have a better career. I don't know,
it's funny Kersh I had a better career. I don't
know if he meant as much to the city as Fernando.
Not to diminish Kershaw's career, but Fernando met an awful
lot to Los Angeles and the Latino fan base. I mean,
he he absolutely captivated the entire market. I was here
(25:59):
for Steve Garvey.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So basically what Fred just said for anybody listening on
a five seventy. Is that only white people like Clayton
Kershaw is basically what he just said.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Okay, that's really not what Kevin did. You did?
Speaker 7 (26:10):
I say that that's what it sounded like to me.
But I also I'm hard to hearing these days, So.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I can't believe you threw me under the bus.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
That was awful.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
You know, that was really bad, Kevin. I can't believe you.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Took obviously you walked right in obviously not uh no.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
But and also you look at Fernando, and that.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Was Maury Wills, Mariy Wills.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
See, Fernando was more of a comet to where it
happened so fast that I don't know the Kershaw ever
reached that level, that pinnacle. It's like when when Mannywood
was here man for a short time, that was like
the that was the thing though, Like that was that
that was kind of like Otani. It just you know,
(26:58):
it doesn't last as long. Kershaw has been steady the
entire time. And so that's why I wonder, based on
the Rogan window, where he would fall, because he's got
to be up there, man. I can't think of too
many guys that would be in competition.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
No, Now a guy that made a great impact. You
talk about Manny Ramirez, I'll tell you who may have
had besides Otani, the greatest quickest single impact was Yasiel Pueigue. Yes, yeah,
I went to Dodger games where he didn't even play.
(27:32):
He wasn't in the lineup, he didn't pinch it. You
didn't see him. And it's where people were walking through
the crowd at the end of the game, they were
all screaming Pueague. He didn't even play. Yasiel Pweigue captured
the imagination of the city. Now he had a number
(27:53):
of issues, obviously, but he captured the imagination. I would say,
quickest to vaut to the top. Now, whether they stayed
there or not, Fernando's a very good point. I think Puigue.
I think Manny Ramirez, I mean, boom, they were here
and just exploded, exploded to the top. But as you
(28:15):
look at the guys that I've been here and covered, yeah,
I think Clayton Kershaw would obviously be the best of them.
It wasn't around for Duke Snyder.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I mean you go back to Yasiel Puig's numbers, I
mean not even all that impressive to be honest with you, Like,
what would you say if you had to say right
now his time with the Dodgers, Yasiel Puig's best home
run RBI number his time with the Dodgers here, what
would you say it was?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Best home runs?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah? Twenty four, twenty four? How many RBIs eighty one? Okay,
twenty eight and seventy four. I was closed in twenty seventeen.
I mean it's not like doesn't it's nothing to scoff at,
but the rock Star action that you point to to
where it was just the buzz in the stadium. You know,
(29:05):
he only made one All Star and then you know,
I love how Baseball Reference does this as well too.
They'll show you where they ranked in the MVP voting
mass that year. Yeah, y'all see l Puige in twenty
thirteen as a rookie, ranked fifteenth and then nineteenth the
next year. At that point, are you even ranked? You
(29:26):
know what I mean? Like, like, what would have to happen?
That's like when Lance Armstrong won the Tour de France
and they found out that everybody pissed hot behind him,
and then they ended up years later giving it to
the guy who finished seventeenth It's like, y'all see how
we finished nineteenth and MVP voting and they've got that listed, Like,
you know, how many things would have had to have
happened from the actually be voted MVP.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
He would have been designated survivor. It's like, right, it's.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Just why even lists that? Why is that even relevant?
But apparently he finished nineteenth his second year, in fifteenth
this first year.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You don't want to of the guy's props. I mean,
my god, at least he was in.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
There, Okay, I mean you know who finished who finished twentieth?
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Me Michael Kaddie or finished twentieth that year was.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
And don't think his family will never forget that.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Okay, I would listen, I got the list right now.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I'm not trying to. I'm just wondering, like, why why
do we even have a list of who finished twentieth?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I don't know, it's just was that what the list ended?
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Kevin at twenty It ends at twenty four. Former Dodger
Russell Martin Guy was twenty fourth that year. He was
with the Pirates, he was with Pittsburgh. He was twenty
fourth in MVP voting that season.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That's a well deserved honor. Who won it that year?
Speaker 6 (30:36):
That was Andrew McCutcheon with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I'll see Pleeague was robbed.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Hey, by the way, you know Russell Martin.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
But Cutchion just stole all those you know, votes away
from his teammate Russell Martin.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
That's what happened.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
So do you know the Rookie of the Year voting
when Puigue was a rookie, he finished second. Do you
know won Rookie of the Year that year Jose Jose
Fernandez of the Marlins, and that.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Caught fire super early. Oh my god, it was electric.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
That guy. You talk about somebody who had a fan
base in the palm of his hands, like that guy
was a superstar, Jose Fernandez. Nolan Aernaudo way down the
list right there. Also, by the way, in a rookie.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And Rookie of the Year. Yeah right, what year was this?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Twenty thirteen?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
He looks older than he is, don't you think?
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Still great? That's a Hall of way. Nolan Aernado is
going to be a Hall of Famer. Just in case
people were wondering guys had a great career.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, he really has.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
But do you know how old Nolan Aernado actually is
Fred five. Yeah, he's thirty four. How old do you
think he looks?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Thirty eight? Wow?
Speaker 6 (31:44):
All right?
Speaker 4 (31:46):
He doesn't necessarily laughing about I just the aide shaving
on this show today is just.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I'm not anybody. I was just surprised.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Damn, you look a lot older than I thought you were.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Fred's got Nolan Aeronado and Al Horford like be like
their mummies.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Right, It's like, damn, I don't know the Rocky Mountain Air.
It's like years off your life. Mann.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
The air was cleaner there like mummies.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
All right, when we come back the Kings. The Kings
have signed a free agent.
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Speaker 1 (32:41):
All right, Jonas Knoxen today for Rodney h Kings fans
excited they signed a free agent. They signed a free agent.
That's a big news somebody you know, don't know you
know how excited you'll be, But I think there should
be reason to smile. Let us j element returning to
(33:01):
southern California on a one year, three and a half
million dollar deal none other than Corey Perry.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
All right, young and spry, let's go.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I'm talking about Clark Perry.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Now. There's something to be said for experience, don't don't
kid yourself. And there's also something that you know, he
played for Edmonton and they didn't win the Cup a
couple of times and thought he was the Jinx, but
that's not the issue. He did play for the Ducks,
you remember that the first fourteen years of his career
where he did win a Stanley Cup in two thousand
and seven. But he's forty years old. So you do
(33:38):
need some as we'd like to say in the business
senior leadership, you know, you need you need that experienced pro,
that veteran you know, and that's who they went out
and got jonas well.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
It's just funny your your tone in the way that
you discuss Corey Perry's age is so much different from
the way you discuss the age of other people that
we've talked, most notably Al Horford. It's just I don't
know why that is. It's just interesting how how your
your tone change when it when it's discussing this. I mean,
Corey Perry is the same age as Al Horford and
(34:12):
Nolan Aronado combined. And the way you're talking about it is,
if there's optimism like forty's the new fourteen, it just very.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Well to be honest with you. I mean, if we're
gonna be honest, this does seem like and God bless
them for playing. It's great, and you know, I'm sure
he'll be great with the Kings. A little long in
the tooth a little bit. I'm not saying I'm not.
Nobody's saying i'm not. But you know, when you sign
(34:42):
that free agent, you uncle Corey Perry is coming back
for one year. Although look, a veteran presence can help.
They lost the defenseman Gabrikov. They couldn't afford them. They
traded Spence. They need defensemen, that's what they need, and
they'll think find him, then he'll find him.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
The term long in the tooth is that a reference
to horses?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, okay, that's where it came from. Years ago, Yeah,
a little older. Yeah, I'm just wondering. You know, I
got bit by a horse.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I've heard that.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, yeah, got hit by a horse. Almost got kicked
in the head by a horse too. I don't know
why you had to bring up a horse. PTSD.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
You gotta be careful going blindfolding Tijuana, Fred, Okay, never
know what I'm saying. You're not the batting cages, now
I do. I am curious because I didn't get your
opinion on this. I didn't get your thoughts on this.
H You despise the Edmonton Oilers as a Kings fan
(35:44):
because because that's been the thorn in the side, and
even this year when it felt like, hey, this is
the year the Kings have got him on the ropes,
I think it was it was it Evander Caine who
kicked in a goal in that in that series against
the King, and I remember watching that going uh oh
that this feels like this feels like this could be
(36:05):
an issue as the series goes on, and of course
it turned out to be an issue. But seeing the
Edmonton Oilers, yeah, getting a clown suit put on them
by the Florida Panthers in the Stanley Cup. So see like,
is that almost better than the Kings winning a playoff series?
Seeing the Oilers lose, Like, it's got to be on
(36:26):
par with with what you would prefer like if you
because or at least second best, if you can't see
the Kings win, just to be able to see Edmonton lose,
it's got to feel good for you.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
It could not have made me feel better. It's not.
It's somehow dulled the pain of what happened to the Kings. Yeah,
Edmonton's dirty, Sorry say it. I don't care. It's true.
I don't like them, I don't like the way their
fans act. I'm glad they got beat I'm glad Florida
beat them good. They're a buffalo bill a hockey geez,
(37:02):
that's exactly what they are.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Wait a second, did they win like four Stanley Cups
of the eighties?
Speaker 1 (37:07):
That is now?
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Okay, so that was the new Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, they're the Buffalo Bills, and they wanted it so badly,
so badly they openly they just they would let their
blood out if they didn't win.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Well, the NHL wants it as well, too, Like, let's
let's be fair here, the NHL wants to Connor McDavid
because he's the star. The NHL would like Connor McDavid
to win his Stanley Cup. That's why when Crosby won his,
it was the commotion that it was, and then he
ended up winning two more. He's the face of the league.
They'd like to see their face of the league win
(37:46):
a Stanley Cup. And then they meet the Florida Panthers.
Matthew Kachuck has got a hernia from outer space or
some other abduct or injury that he's got, and they
annihilated the Panthers. Like some of those gives were even close,
not even close. It's like, you don't mean to you
don't think the NHL looks at those two fan bases
(38:07):
or markets and goes, listen, all respect to Florida fans,
but it's Edmonton. This is the phase of the league.
We'd like for that fan base to have something to
celebrate with. Meanwhile, Panthers fans are walking around in flip
flops and they're at the Elbow Room bar in Fort
Lauderdale just getting ripped in half while watching these games,
(38:28):
probably not even knowing who's winning. Edmonton fans are having
their heart ripped out again, and you're celebrating it here
on the radio. It's insulting.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
That's the way it is. Okay, we got these tickets
to give away, not yet, but we will give them
away this hour. Somebody's gonna win a pair of tickets.
See Clayton Kershaw wrack up win number three thousand tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (38:53):
That's a strikeout number three thousand, by the way, not
win number three thousand.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Would I say win?
Speaker 7 (38:57):
Yeah, that that will be otherworldly incredible, But that was
the taste.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
You imagine if we ever got three thousand wins.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
Strike out number three thin, you'd have to pitch for
twenty more years to get there.
Speaker 6 (39:07):
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