July 2, 2025 • 37 mins
David Vassegh joins us just hours before Clayton Kershaw takes the mound to attempt to surpass the 3000 strikeout mark. DeAndre Ayton to the Lakers is now official - is the risk worth the reward?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And would continue on Fred Rogan and Ben Mallarin Today
for Rodney on A and five seventy LA Sports, this
will be the hour, Ben, the hour where we will
give away tickets for the Faulterer's a Lie game, the
Dodgers and the Astros out at the stadium between now
and three. Somebody's gonna win those tickets, all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, and for me, Fred, there's They're always the cheating Astros.
I can't. I still have that name. I have not forgiven.
They still have Altuve. So for me, they're still the
cheating Astros. I've not forgiven them for twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I don't think anybody in La ever will. Quite frankly,
I hope not. Here's a man I don't think forgives
them a stadium.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I bet you he's forgiven him. This guy you think
David has? Oh yeah, absolutely, Dave.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
How you doing, guys?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We're too fine? Have you forgiven the Astros? Dave, Ben
thinks you have, no, I haven't.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I think every time I see them play the Dodgers,
it triggers just a lot of memories from twenty seventeen.
No matter how much the Astros want to try to
pretend like it's long in the past. How how much
Major League Baseball wants to just pretend like it never happened.
I mean everybody in LA, well actually in LA, the
Dodger fan base and the Yankee fan base will never forget.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, and they still have L two and he was
the face of that. So uh no, and a bunch
of those guys are still playing like that has been
a long time since twenty seventeen. It's been a bunch
of years, but there's they're still sprinkled around baseball. So
as long as those.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Guys are still been a few probably the only radio
guy that's ever confronted Carlos Korea about that when he
came in with the Twins a couple of years ago.
And I give Korea credit. I was in the Twins
locker room. I was in the lines. Dan, you know
how it goes. You're are you a little bit?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Are you? Are you patting yourself on the back of
your say yeah, yeah, we got.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The face with athletes instead of being in a studio
or at their house.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, I used to go out to those games. I
used to go out thereassay, But you know, they got Otani.
I'm not allowed out there anymore, so I can't go
out in those locker rooms. But I used to go
out there back in the day.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
What's that limited press?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Apparently? So they're a room for me in the press
box over there or else I go in your little
locker room and hang on. Now, how's Blake Snell doing?
By the way, Vassay, how's he doing? How that? How
that work?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
A live batting practice?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Great?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They're paying him for live batting practice? Now? Is that
what they're paying him for? My god, you'd admit that
was a bad move, Vessay. At this point right based
on the results we've had that Blake Snell has not
worked out for the Dodgers, you'd admit that. Yes, No,
I wouldn't. Why why he's made two starts? It's July second,
he's made two starts too.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm sure you were among the people that were upset
about the Yamamoto signing when he didn't pitch three months
last year.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's a pitt man. I'm not talking about Yamamotive. I'm
talking about Blake Snell. Let's stay focused, Yes or no,
Blake snells made two starts? No, that's unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Well, I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You won't admit it. This is what I'm talking about.
Fred best A will not. He likes Blake SNeW so
he wanted he's been a blas.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But Ben, did you really expect Blake Snell? Honestly, did
you expect him to really get fired up here until
after the All Star breaking?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Dave?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Isn't that normally?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Sid?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Let me ask you a question. Why am I on
this show? I g Aboutshaw and you got that blowhard mallaryhard? Yes,
talking about different things that have nothing to do with
what today is about.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, I do want to talk about Kershaw? Can I
do that?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Dave?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I know it's hard to keep your pulse on the
sports world when you're just in the studio with air
conditioned in the middle of the night talking, taking phone
calls from Bobo's from the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I take a lot of calls from the Middle East,
a lot of calls from Iraq. They love us there.
What's wrong with you? You don't even pay attention? Man? Yeah?
All right? Rather than you who do the Dodger post
game show and and our diverting, our obvious take with
Blake Snow bad job by you, best.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Okay, let's go to play Kershaw. Let's do that. Dave
over under how many innings before he gets three strikeouts?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I believe he gets them in the first three innings.
I think that's where he'll get these three strikeouts, maybe
even the second inning. I could see him getting two
in the first inning and one more in the second,
so that I don't think that's the question. Fred. The
question is, I mean amongst baseball fans is which pitch
will it be? Will it be his signature curveball, will
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it be his slider? Will it be a fastball? I
think that's what people are wondering, what will be the pitch?
And this is not the only time we have seen
a pitcher record his three thousand strikeout. Ben's favorite pitcher,
mag Scherzer recorded his three strikeout in twenty twenty one,
and Dodger Stadium gave him a curtain call. So I
(04:55):
hope that happens tonight because Dodger fans already set the
stand by giving a you know, a hired gun like
Sure's are a curtain call on his three thousand strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
We're still going to stop the game. Will there be
anything any video or anything?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Uh? My understanding is if it's in the middle of
the game, Kershaw does not want the game to be stopped,
But if it's at the end of the inning, you know,
they may flash. They obviously will flash something and maybe
certainly celebrated.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Well. Max shows will be available for game six. Do
we know that, essay or absolutely not?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Ben, you know the answer to that. Yeah, we finally
agree on something.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
There you go. He's the Dodgers could have won that
year rights against the Atlanta Breys or sures Are pitched.
That was a team worthy of winning the World Series.
But Sures couldn't pitch that day and they didn't. Obviously
they lost, and then that would have been another World
Series they would have won.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
That's right. Sure's Are saved himself for free agency, cared
about the money and trying to maximize his dollars and
not compromising anything. And he uh, he had Walker Bueller
on short rest. They were playing Catcher at Dodgers Stadium
before they boarded the plane for Atlanta, and he pointed
to Bueller and said, you know what, I think he's
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the guy. He's the guy. My body's just not right.
I think Bueller's the guy.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, he was wrong. He was well Buller available by
the way, David, Yeah, he could come back. The Red
Sox apparently don't want him anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So, Well, he's really struggling to day.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
He's been terrible with the Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, he's struggling. You think the dodgersould bring him back.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
It kind of feels like how Keike Hernandez is better
on the Dodgers than any other team, and he's a
better fit for the Dodgers than any other team. Look,
if it's Rock, you know they're not. The Red Sox
are not going to get anything for Walker Buehler with
that price tag remaining on his contract, even for one year.
So if the Red Sox decided to designate him for assignment,
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if it comes to that point, then I can see
the Dodgers considering it. But the Red Sox aren't going
to get much of anything for Walker Buehler right now
or July thirty first.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Hey, Dave, Michael CONFORDO trade deadline coming? Are they looking
for the left handed bat or do they think he's
settling in.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I think he has between now and July thirty first
to produce to prove that he is Backfred and can
be a productive part of the scene and get a
lot of at bats in the left field. I believe
that's in the infant stages of him proving that, yeah,
they don't need to go out and get another outfielder.
So that's to be determined between now and July thirty first,
(07:32):
all right, and.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
As far as the trade, the actual moves are going
to make, best say, I would assume David that the
obvious one is the bullpen, as Dave Roberts has run
through the bullpen early and often and the amount of
innings they fished. So any names you're hearing that the
Dodgers are interested in as far as relief pitchers are concerned.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, Andrew Friedman's on the record, Ben is saying that
that's priority number one to go out to get a
right handed, high leverage reliever. There are a few candidates
that are kind of interesting. David Bednar from the Pirates,
who has had a really good month of June, has
been an All Star a couple of times. I mean,
there's names that you could throw out on any team,
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including Mason Miller. I mean, if the A's are getting
ready for Las Vegas and don't really care about their
time in Sacramento. Why wouldn't they consider a big time
package for a guy like Mason Miller. That would be
to me, the prize for the Dodgers and possibly the
A's in their situation looking towards twenty twenty eight, even
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though Miller is under control for until twenty thirty. But
you can get a lot for him right now.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
All right, Well, Dave, thanks for coming on. Really appreciate it.
You know, I'm sorry you had to scholar Ben.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
As far as a treatment, Ben Mallard is there, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
He's lying, he's lying, obviously lying. Hate.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I mean, it's great to lead into an overnight show
on doctor Talk.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well I wish I had a good leading and I
got to turn the transmitter on when I turned my
show on.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
How dare you don't worry your listeners in des Moines, Iowa?
Still love you?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh look at this big market la vass a man
disrespecting des Moines, Iowa of the heart of America, the
heartland of America. I dare you?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
All right? Thank you have a good one.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Bye, David.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Thanks Fred by back.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Go see Blake Snell. Go give him a massage or something.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Thanks right, Well, no, he's not gonna give him a massage. No, No,
I mean, come on, there's a line you don't want
to cross. He's not gonna go start rubbing the guy down.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
He's made two more starts than you've made, Fred and
I combined two.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I know, and I'm exhausted and more than I did.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I played more media games than he's played in My.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
God, but listen, you knew bad when they signed him,
or maybe you didn't think this. I didn't think he'd
even be doing anything to after the All Star break? Kevin?
Isn't that normally his mo o? He gets going right
around the All Star break?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Well, I'd say of the last couple of seasons, he's
had some injury issues early on. So I don't know
if that's been his mo throughout his career, but generally
speaking in recent memory, yes.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
So, Fred, I don't you should rest off for football season? There? Fred? Right?
I mean, you don't do these shows. You might lose
your voice between football before football season. You know, God forbid,
you get paid for the whole year. I mean, what
are we doing here? Seriously?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
What do we doing? It's very different than it used
to be, and you know that.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I know.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But he doesn't mean it's right for it. It does
not mean it's right.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Well, it's not right to us when you have to
work every day, but I assure you it's right to
him if you only have to work half the time.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Well people, well yeah, but the people who are like
defending it, that's I mean, listen, he's what does he have?
A body full body soreness? Is what they said? Is
that what they said he had or something like that. Yeah,
don't you have.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That, Fred, Listen, I'm in pain right now.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
I think that was a class now that have the
body sore in this issue?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Is what did Snell? I thought he had a similar thing.
I thought they they were trying to figure out what
it was like. This is kind of doesn't feel right.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
And yeah, yeah, shoulder inflammation is what Snell's been there.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It is inflammation. There you go, there it is. I
put some icy stuff on it and rub it and
ice and all that.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
There you go. All right, Uh, don't forget this hour.
Not now. We're giving away those tickets fourth of July
game Dodgers and Astros, and Kevin has just sent us
some information. I think we have an update on DeAndre
Ayton and the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Now we have breaking news.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
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Speaker 1 (11:40):
I've been mallaging today for Rodney, getting ready for the
fourth of July. Let's give it the Dodger tickets away.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Let's just do it, do it, do it?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Everybody wants the Dodger tickets Fourth of July game Dodgers
Astros one pair eight six six nine eight seven two
five seventy. What calling number you want, Ben, Let's do.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Call her fifteen, Ray caller fifteen, call her fifteen. You
want to how about no? You want to know?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
We'll do fifteen.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I just want to know you'll go higher. I mean
I can go higher of you. How do you want
to go? No? Go fifteen, because no, I go higher
if you want? I mean, fifteen is a low number.
Fifty's a low number. Fred I went low.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I just don't know if we have fifteen people listening, well,
I would.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Hope we I mean I have seven, and I think
you got You're a big daytime show, so I think
you'd have more. My overnight show is seven, so I
know I'm bringing seven people. I know I've got Terry
in England listening. I've got my guy Alf in Springfield,
mass he's lifting listening. So I've got those guys. I
got my base, Fray, and then you've got your base
so together. See, I'm really worried about I know, these
(12:40):
radio promotions. The person that has to go through the calls,
they've got the hard job. So if we went like
callers seven hundred, then whoever has to answer the phone
the call in line will lose their mind, right, So
we can't go that high. Now, I feel like fifteen
fifteen is too low. So maybe we've got to go
a little higher there. Fifteen. No, I think fifteen is
(13:00):
too low for it. I think no.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I think I think Kevin would tell you fifteen is justifying.
He's answering the calls.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Oh so Kevin's the one that's got to oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Kevin's handling it. Now about caller. Let's see here, Well,
twenty seventeen, how about seventeen. Well, the raisers for the
twenty seventeen they're.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Probably already said fifteen.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
We played, we said fifteen. We're stuck on fifteen.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
We can be determined.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Once we've said fifteen, that's it. The final numbers fifteen.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right, Because as a broadcast professional, you're aware of the
fact there are FCC rules. Once you've said it's caller fifteen,
then you can't turn around and go now one seventeen.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I want you to know, Fred, you're the dean. But
I've I've graduated from iHeart University. Every year, I have
taken the online training year after year. I am certified.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Everybody has been so hard.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I thought I was special.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
No, but you know what, in the most recent one,
mind froze right in the middle.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh that's the worst, man.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It stopped, and then I went back to it and
it's still frozen in the exact same spot. And you know,
if you don't get them done by a certain point
in time.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, you get in trouble. You get called into the
principal's office. At this point, though, I've done the iHeart
training so much, I can do it with my eyes
closed and not even listening. I know, I know all
the answers for all the answers to those questions, all
of them all right.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So a couple of years ago they had a different
one on harassment. It was a different one than we
have now. And by the way, listening, you have to understand,
we go through these trainings every year, and the reason
we go through them is because then if we do
something stupid, we could never say, well, the company told us,
don't do that, so you can get fired. And one
of them is harassment. And the old one they had,
(14:39):
and I don't know if you remember this, there was
a scene with a woman by the copy machine. Yes,
and the woman by the copy machine was bending over
to get some copies, and you got these three guys
sitting there looking at her, going oh hey, wow, you know,
and then the question becomes is this appropriate? Should you
be doing something like that at work? What should you
(14:59):
do if you see something like that? So anyway, it
was the woman by the copy machine and everybody's looking
at her.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I don't know why, but I had just seen the
video that day as I went through the training, and
just understand, these trainings can go anywhere from thirty minutes
to one hour. Yeah right, and you can't pass it.
Kind of like traffic school. But yeah, you're pretty much stuck.
You got to watch the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
All right.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So the copy machine was fresh in my mind. I
go home. I think, you know what, I'm gonna go
across the street to Foreman's and get a drink. I
go across the riverside, I go to Foremans. I walk in.
I'm at the bar and I'm looking at the bartender
and I'm thinking to myself, God, I know you from somewhere.
(15:43):
I've seen you before. And then she comes up and
I kind of know where we've said hello in the past.
But she comes up and I go, you're the girl
by the copy machine.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
No, yes, it was me, No, it was me. No way,
that was awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, but what a small world.
That's great.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
That was so funny.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That yeah, that wild. Yeah. We had one time years ago,
we actually had in in office harassment sexual harassment training.
There was an incident that happened years ago. Statute of
limitations was run out right, So one of the guys,
a former NFL player, was in the meeting and he
had already lined up another job. He knew he was leaving,
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so he decided to have some fun. He would ask
the most obviously offensive questions to the person who was training,
and it was we were all we were all trying
not to laugh because we knew he was leaving, and
he was asking the most obvious offensive questions and this
poor woman was trying to answer them. It was very awkward,
it was. It was hilarious and awkward at the same time.
(16:48):
It was great, tremendous memories of that in in person
training that we had to go through.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I've never had that in all the years. No, you've
never had in person training.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, try to avoid it, Fred.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
No, he had the NBC Legal seminar that that was
like two and a half hours. They tried to make
it fun. And all they're doing in these trainings, if
you're working, by the way, and you're driving around or
you're listening to the office you have a job, what
they're doing is a informing you about things that you
know you should know about and how to react, which
is good, and then be basically protecting themselves.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, it's plausible innability. They say, well, if you told
you and you can't deny it, and so you don't
have plausible deniability. You've eliminated that and you're gone. Here's
a cardboard box, get your stuff and write.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So you got to take the trainings. You got to
do them.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And if you don't. I've tried to avoid them because
I usually don't check my work email because they get
rid of that when they get rid of you. So
I usually don't check the work email, but I'll get
angry emails from my boss like, hey, you got to
check this, dude, what's wrong with you. I'm going to
get in trouble if you don't do this training.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And that's the line they always use. Yeah, oh hey,
I'm in trouble. Yeah, it's me if you don't do this,
so please do it. It's like my boss when I'm
doing this TV news show, says to me all the time, listen,
I'm begging you, please please don't get a sued, please
just please don't Like I'm not going to get a suit.
(18:13):
And he always says to me, degrees, he's great. We
work together in LA for years. Oh cool, he says,
here's the bottom line. If you get a sued and
you get us in trouble. You're still going to work here,
but they're going to fire me.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's funny. See, I have the My mantra Fred on
the Overnight Show is I just don't want to get
a call during the day from management. That's my only
I just don't want I don't want to be woken
up by somebody who's in management complaining at something that
I said at three in the morning, you know, or
two in the morning whatever. So I was like, just
my goal every night is just I want to do
a good show. I want to, but I don't want
to get that call. It's not being sued, although I have.
(18:52):
You know, I got threatened with lawsuits. I got many
legal letters when I had my my website years ago.
But on the radio I've been able to circumvent that
for the most part. But when I did that website,
I got I got lawyer, I got lawyer letters I had.
It was unbelievable how many people were like threatening to
sue me for were the stories that I and I remember,
(19:12):
I was aggregating, so I wasn't like writing writing stories
or whatever. I was mostly aggregation and people would sue me.
I had a football coach who had been in the NFL.
And then it was like a college coach and he
was upset with something I said. There was a college
basketball coach at a small school who was in the
NCAA tournament and I had written something and I'd taken
some quotes that he had said in a news conference,
(19:34):
and he said I misquoted him, and he demanded that
I take the story down. He threatened to assume me
and all this stuff. And of course I'm like, dude,
I'm doing a small blog. Who why are you getting
so upset? But people were getting very upset with me.
That was in the early days before social media, back
in the old days, you know, twenty five years ago
or whatever. People could get very defensive, man very upset.
But but yeah, I tried to avoid just getting the
(19:55):
call from management. Fred. That's my goal at night, and
I want to do a good show, but I don't
want to get that phone call.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You know, have you gotten have gotten called?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Ben? I? Have I have gotten a call?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
What could you have done on your overnight show to
get a call? I?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I this is You're gonna one of the times. I'll
give an example. There's a couple of times that's happened.
But the most ridiculous one was a caller from from Boston.
We're syndicated, so a caller from Boston. I ripped Johnny Pesky,
you know, the Pesky poll, and at the time, we
were on the Red Sox station in Boston, and this
guy had it out. He said what I had done.
(20:32):
You know, he was upset it was on the Red
Sox station, so he called the station to complain. He
called the Boston Red Sox to complain, right, so then
the Red Sox were involved. They then contacted my employer
and it became this whole big thing where I had
to call this guy up and they because they were
threatening to pull you know, there's some legal stuff involved,
pull the show or whatever. So it was a big pain.
I mean, it was not. It was the most benign
(20:54):
thing I thought. You know, I was like Johnny Penn,
who cares if you take a shot at Johnny Pesky?
Apparently he's royalty in Boston and though you're not allowed
to do that. So very upset with me. Yeah, how
ridiculous is that? But I'm still upset by that. I
had to call this listener off the air and talk
to him.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I can't believe they made you do that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
They did, they made me do it this.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
How did the guy react.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
The the you know, the usual Fred. The guy was like, well,
I like your show, but you crossed the line. You know,
you can't talk about Johnny Pesky. This guy, you know,
he's give me the whole up in the Boston Action.
He's like, we named the foul pole, but Pesky poll
because of Johnny. You can't say that on you know,
he was all of fan I said. I had said
it after a Red Sox game or something like that,
so he was all upset. But it was the most
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ridiculous thing in the world. But but in general, I mean,
I'll get calls about you know, people complain about things
like that, or I'll say I'll give you another example.
Remember the uh, the pitchers, Phil Nekro and Joe Nicro. Yes,
so I made a joke about the the Necro brothers, right, okay,
(21:56):
and they used it as a drug. I say it
like one time they use there's a drop right, and
people would call up Fred because they don't listen. They
thought you might imagine what they thought I said, Fred,
I said the Negro brothers. They thought I said a
different n word that is not necro, but something close
to it. And people would listen with half an ear,
(22:18):
and they swore that I said that. I said no,
I never said that. I was It was a throw
in line about you know, the Necro brothers and the
knuckleball pitchers, and they thought I had said this like
offensive thing, and they were like, I couldn't believe they
were really convinced that I had said it. I was like, no,
I never I would never say that. I mean no.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So that might be one of the greatest stories I've
ever heard.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Oh no, let me tell you, Kevin, No I had.
I had people sending me letters, angry letters that this
would be played on the air, and it was. It was.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
It was.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
It was I do these who am I game questions
or whatever at night and people send dopey answers him.
And so they'll send old baseball players because it's funny
to hear old baseball player named from forty years ago whatever,
And so I would just make it joke out of it,
and I said it. And then Roberto, my old engineer,
he made it as a drop or whatever. And then
next thing I know, I'm getting angry emails people are
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calling the you know, Fox Sports Radio. Did you know
what Mahler said? I didn't say it. I said the
Phill and Joe Nekro I didn't say. But people hear
what they hear. Fred, they hear what they hear.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
They hear what they hear, and also Ben, they hear
what they want to hear.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That's true, that is accurate. You're not wrong on that.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know, I always say in this new kind of
weird world, I entered to try something different. You listen
to what I say, not what you want to hear,
because there's a distinct difference. Don't try to convince yourself
that I did I said something other than what I said,
because no matter what you say, you know, people know,
well that's not what you meant. I just told you
(23:47):
what I meant. I just said it now, But that's
not what you meant.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
It'll have some kind of ulterior motives, there's something else
going on there. But yeah, it happens all the time.
I mean it happens. I feel like it happens more
in like the written word, as I said, the website stuff.
But what we do, you know, people listen and we
like to think everyone I got to think everyone's like
old school early days of radio Fred. They're wrapped around
you know, the Rogan or Rodney Show, and they're listening
to every word. But you're driving, you're working, right, You're
(24:14):
you're doing you're futsing around on your phone, You're you're
doing something at work. You're not paying total attention to
what's being said. Right. It's background noise.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, that's what it is. And that's why we have
to be so incredibly compelling, which we're not.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Uh that dare.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I don't take that kindly? Uh Okay, So here's the
update on DeAndre Ayton. Multiple interested teams. According to Mark Stein,
expect him to commit to the Lakers after he clears
waivers today at five pm.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
There it is five year, which has already cleared. So yeah,
so which is now? It was a half hour ago.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
So now it's five So what do we know, Kevin?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Still nothing official that I've seen, but I'm still monitoring.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Well, he was photographed though, you saw, I'm sure you
guys by talking about he had the Dodger had on
DeAndrea yesterday on social media. So that's a dead giveaway, Fred,
dead giveaway. Got the Dodger cap he didn't have an
Indiana Indians cap for the Triple A team there in Indianapolis.
He had a Dodger cap on.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
So Chris Haynes just a minute ago did tweet out
or X, I don't know what you call it, it's
on X. Free agent center DeAndre Aiden is expected to
sign with the LA Lakers, according to my sources. Allows
for Chris Haynes a minute ago.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
There you go, all right?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So seriously, is there a time to celebrate?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Not for me, but not for you either, Fred you pointed,
we both are not teammate, We're not DeAndre eating guys.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
We're having Is it a time for you to celebrate?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I don't know if i'd say i'd celebrate. I would
say as a fan of the team, when you have
a chance to get a player of his ilk on
the court and the possibilities of what he could do,
I think you're a little bit excited. You're probably cautiously
optimistic that it can work out, but you have to
have reservations based on his.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
History until he vanishes in Game three of the playoffs
and you're like, where did he go? What happened to DeAndre?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Or in the fourth one, maybe he'll put up good
stats the first half, right, and then the second half
he'll vanish. Isn't that what he did with the Suns? Fred,
when you were watching him there with the Suns, he would,
oh yeah, stretches of games, heat parts, heat parts of
the game.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I'm more concerned about how many games you'll actually play.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Well, there's that.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
And if we need double confirmation, Schams just tweeted eight
and has agreed to sign with the LA Lakers.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
There you go, DeAndre eight, another number one overall pick
going to the going to the Lakers. And we did
have a winner, Fred, we did have a lucky winner.
Do you see that we have a lucky winner? Those
Dodger tickets one an Arcadie, congratulations won enjoy the ravine? Beautiful?
Was that six o'clock start on Friday the fourth? I
believe it success.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
That is a six ten start, absolutely perfect.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Man, That sun sets and then shortly after that these
games are all like two and a half hours now
and then boom, fireworks. Awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Ben. We were talking earlier about Caitlin Clark and how
her her fellow WNBA players ranked her when it came
to the All Star Game. Voting ninth. She's not nine,
she's not having the greatest year, and she's been hurt,
but ninth. And we said, you know, maybe they're jealous.
Maybe they're jealous. Well, do you think they will have
anything to do with it? Front Office Sports reported Caitlyn
(27:14):
Clark's first signature shoe. Insider say it could be worth
one hundred and fifty million dollars. It could be a
top five signature franchise across basketball.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Now, how do you get to that number?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Are?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Here's the question I have for you, Fred, Are dude's
gonna buy her shoe?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Great question?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Are guys gonna buy? She's so cool Caitlyn Clark, that guys,
because that's always that gray area, right, even in these
new times that we live in, Fred, you know, are
you gonna wear her clothing, her shoes to model yourself?
Like the women's market? I get right, because if you're
a young girl playing basketball, she's gotta be for for
most everyone, she's the hero because she's the star of stars.
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She's crossed over, not just a women's star, she's crossed
over for everything.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
But what about the dudes, Well, what's the difference between
a man's and a woman's shoe.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, will they have a male version of the Caitlin
Clark shoe though? That's what I'm saying. Is it just
gonna be only for women? Or are they gonna have
a male version and a women's version?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah? But what I'm saying is, Okay, it's a it's
a woman's shoe. Yeah, but what does that mean? Does
it look different than a man's shoe?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I worked at foot locker for years. I worked in
the shoe business, so I'm an expert on shoes, and
it's all about the style. Fred, It's all about the look.
It's all about the outside, not the inside. Is that right?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
For it?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Does that work? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It works? So that means that means you could wear
a woman's tenter shoe, a woman's basketball shoe.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
But aren't women's shoes smaller than men's shoes?
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Though?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That's what's I believe. That's what I believe. That's it,
which is women's feet are generally I'm get in trouble here,
but aren't women's feet generally smaller than men men's sizes?
In women's sizes? Right? That's like? Yeah, So are they
saying is if.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
There's a woman's shoe that a man can fit into,
And you said, our dude's gonna wear the shoe. So
I don't know what the biggest woman's shoe will be,
but if the man can fit into it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Well, But I think what they're gonna do is, because
she's such a big star, they'll have like a male
version and a woman's version to try to get the
full marketplace. But that Mike wash is, will man actually
buy it? That's my thing. You know, maybe if you have,
like your daughter's playing basketball, you'll buy it in that respect.
But if you're if you're just like a meat and
potatoes sports guy, are you gonna wear a Caitlin Clark
Nike basketball shoe out and about on a random Saturday
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afternoon when you're with your friends. To me, I'm not
a shoe guy, so I don't. I'm not really the
shoe guy.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I think it would depend on how it looked. Yeah,
I wouldn't care, Kevin, would you care?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh not at all.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I mean if the shoes looked at the great design
and I thought it was something that would look nice
with whatever I have, I'd buy Brianna Stuart's shoes.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Like, I don't care what are you shoe. Are you
a shoe guy, Kevin, I'm not, though I'm not a
sneaker head, so okay, yeah, I'm not. Yeah. I know
some people that collect them and trade them, and there's
like a whole market of that stuff. But that's not me.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
But if I was in the market for sneakers, I
was just saying I walked by, I was in a store, off,
I was in foot lock or whoever, and I had
no association, had no idea who shoes they were. I
was like, Oh, those shoes like nice, purchase them.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Go up, do them and put them on.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
So I was like, oh, snap, you weren't Kaitlyn Clark shoes.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I was like, oh, okay, cool.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
It would not It would not preclude me from from
purchasing them, nor will it encourage me to purchase them.
If I like the design of the shoe, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
What do you think, Ronnie, would you would not?
Speaker 6 (30:19):
No, No, I perhaps they might look nice, but not
for me. Maybe I'd buy them for my wife.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Look at that. See Ronnie's a man's man, Fred. You
see that, that's Ronnie Fossio. He's not messing around here.
And I am a shoe guy. Fred, how many how
many pairs of shoes you got, Ronnie?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Uh, probably too many to count right now?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Really? Yeah, over one hundred, are we? No?
Speaker 6 (30:44):
No, no, that's not no, I'm not I'm not that
You're not that level.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No, okay, but you have a fair amount enough shoes,
fair amount. Yes, you have to decide, like what you're
gonna wear based on the you know you have. You
have options. You have like thirty pairs of shoes.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
It's nice to have options. No less than thirty pairs
of shoes, Okay, I'm prepp maybe like fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, so let's say you have sixteen pairs, less than twenty,
you have sixteen. Let's say, really, how often do you
wear all sixteen? You don't, right, Nope? Are there some
of the shoes I have been worn in years?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Fred? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
So what do you do with them?
Speaker 6 (31:20):
They sit in my closet.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You look at him every once in a while.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You never attempted to put them on.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
I have a pair of Jordans that I bought a
first edition a few years ago, and I've only worn
them twice. You gotta have those, You got to keep
those wear occasional shoes, Fred, You have to wear. You
have to wear the shoes according to the occasion. So
you know, if if it's a fancy occasion, then you know,
you break out the Jordans, you break out.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
We'll break out the retro ones. What would a special
occasion be for the Jordans? Like, what would it have
to be for you to pull the Jordans out?
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Is it like Rob Parker's birthday party in Phase which.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You were there too?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Bit was? I was at that event. We saw each
other there, we did it was. That was quite the
scene there. Remember when stephen A showed up and uh
two hours late with two armed security Yeah, he had
a security guards there, two of them. He had two
armed security guards. Stephen A. Do you have armed security?
You're the Dean Fred, Do you have armed security when
you're going around?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
No? But I happened to see steven A in Atlanta
a couple of months ago when he had two armed
security guards. Yeah, he's had security years ago when I
had the website.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It was actually during the Pete Carroll years of USC
and at the the old Coliseum press box, I went,
I had to go to the bathroom and steven A
came in there. But his bodyguard closed the bathroom. Nobody
else could get in because we're worried. I guess I
was going to attack Stephen a while he was at
the journal at the coliseum. So it was very odd,
and I wrote about that. He did not appreciate that.
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So he did not appreciate that I wrote about that.
I thought it was odd, though, Oh yes, of course
it was odd. It's not normal behavior.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I mean no, But if in fact that was happening,
you know how many threats must he get?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And this was a long time ago too, This is
not I mean, he's he's a bigger deal now than
he was even back then, so I'm sure he gets
a lot. That's what happens. It's the internet, man, So
that's how they roll on the internet.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
All right, Well, we're gonna roll out of here after
this next break.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I'm not going anywhere, Fred, I'm sitting right here. I'm
not getting up. I'm gonna do the whole show. I'm
gonna run through the finish line.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
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Speaker 1 (33:39):
All right, Ben is in today for Rodney, And before
we get out of here, we have a confirmed Kevin
has been diligently checking, constantly, keeping an eye on things.
And there should be celebration if you are a DeAndre
Ayton fan, because it's in the books. Two years, sixteen
point six million dollars. Uh, he's got a player option
(34:00):
for twenty six twenty seven, so he can get out
of here if he wants there.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It is.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
There's your Lakers center, DeAndre Ayden, former first round pick.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, number one overall pick, and he's every generation as
a guy like DeAndre Eaton, who's gifted, talented and all that,
but yet it doesn't really put it all together. And
yet if you don't watch him every game, you think
he's better than he is. And yeah, he'll get a
chance to reinvent himself with the Lakers. If you were
betting red and if I gave you one thousand dollars
(34:29):
to bet, will DeAndre Ayton reinvent himself into the complete
version of DeAndre Eton? Or will he continue to be
a malingering player that causes more heartache than anything else?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I think he will have initially moments of brilliance because
he has to write, because he's on the clock and
people are looking at him, and it's a new situation
and he's with the Lakers. But I really think he
will revert back to being exactly who he is.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I agree. Uh. It reminds me of previous generations. There's
always been players like that in every sport, but in basketball,
remember the old school days, benoyed Benjamin back in the day, right,
that's right? When's that document Is that documentary out? I
have not seen the documentary? Is it out? Yeah? Yeah,
where's it at? I want to watch it. I seriously
(35:21):
would love to watch.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Figure out where it is.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Send me a message, send me a text or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Let me let me figure it out and I'll get
it to you. But you know, is he I don't
know DeAndre Ayton? Is he Michael Olower? Candy?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
There's another that's a more that's a more relevant example.
Even that's a dated example though, but that's a that's
another guy that was really talented but never put it
all together, like the under eight and will he be serviceable?
And well he'll get you some double doubles and all that.
But he's not going to dominate. The idea you think
number one overall pick and the amount of attention that
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he got with the Sons, that he would dominate games,
but he's he hasn't been that guy. He's not he's
not a franchise alling player. And I know as well
the Lakers don't need that. They have Luca and right
now they have Lebron and all that. But I feel
like there should be a warning label Fred with DeAndre
Ayden because a lot of people don't pay that close attention.
They think he's better. He just doesn't have a motor.
He's lacking a motor. That's my determinator, that's my NBA analysis, Fred,
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he needs a new motor.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Is he Markel Folts?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Uh? He's better than Markel Folts, But the attitude's gonna
pop up. He doesn't he doesn't like contact, and he's
seven foot tall and he doesn't play a physical style
despite his size. He's not very aggressive. I mean, those
are the things you want. You don't want someone who's passive.
He's got the size, like he should dominate, but he
(36:43):
doesn't use that to his He hasn't used that to
his ability. He's not like he's not a bust, but
he's not living up to what people think he should be.
So it's like it's like he could be better, but
he just doesn't seem to care. So that's where he
is at this point. But you will have it. He'll
have a chance with the Lakers. Well you got it
(37:04):
for two years, right, Fred, You said two years, so
he'll be there for a couple of years. And more
noise about Lebron too. There's more noise out today. Is
this all clickbait ors? There's something to it about Lebron
not being happy and this that and the other thing
Lebron wants out blah blah blah blah blah. Every every
ten minutes. There's a new Lebron story out there also.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
And that is something we will explore tomorrow and you
can talk about it tonight on your show. So I
just want to say to you, you're doing this again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I have Day Night doubleheader, Fred, Day Night double pain.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
It's a royal. Pia's work that late and get up and.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
The dean of LA Sports and my guy Kevin and Ronnie.
This is a great team you got here, Fred. These
are professional radio people, good people.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
They are good people. All right, Ronnie, thank you, Kevin.
Great job Ben. Let's do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
We'll do it, Fred. We'll run it back again, Fred,
And would continue on Fred Rogan and Ben Mallarin Today
for Rodney on A and five seventy LA Sports, this
will be the hour, Ben, the hour where we will
give away tickets for the Faulterer's a Lie game, the
Dodgers and the Astros out at the stadium between now
and three. Somebody's gonna win those tickets, all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, and for me, Fred, there's They're always the cheating Astros.
I can't. I still have that name. I have not forgiven.
They still have Altuve. So for me, they're still the
cheating Astros. I've not forgiven them for twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I don't think anybody in La ever will. Quite frankly,
I hope not. Here's a man I don't think forgives
them a stadium.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I bet you he's forgiven him. This guy you think
David has? Oh yeah, absolutely, Dave.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
How you doing, guys?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
We're too fine? Have you forgiven the Astros? Dave, Ben
thinks you have, no, I haven't.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I think every time I see them play the Dodgers,
it triggers just a lot of memories from twenty seventeen.
No matter how much the Astros want to try to
pretend like it's long in the past. How how much
Major League Baseball wants to just pretend like it never happened.
I mean everybody in LA, well actually in LA, the
Dodger fan base and the Yankee fan base will never forget.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, and they still have L two and he was
the face of that. So uh no, and a bunch
of those guys are still playing like that has been
a long time since twenty seventeen. It's been a bunch
of years, but there's they're still sprinkled around baseball. So
as long as those.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Guys are still been a few probably the only radio
guy that's ever confronted Carlos Korea about that when he
came in with the Twins a couple of years ago.
And I give Korea credit. I was in the Twins
locker room. I was in the lines. Dan, you know
how it goes. You're are you a little bit?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Are you? Are you patting yourself on the back of
your say yeah, yeah, we got.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
The face with athletes instead of being in a studio
or at their house.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, I used to go out to those games. I
used to go out thereassay, But you know, they got Otani.
I'm not allowed out there anymore, so I can't go
out in those locker rooms. But I used to go
out there back in the day.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
What's that limited press?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Apparently? So they're a room for me in the press
box over there or else I go in your little
locker room and hang on. Now, how's Blake Snell doing?
By the way, Vassay, how's he doing? How that? How
that work?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
A live batting practice?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Great?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They're paying him for live batting practice? Now? Is that
what they're paying him for? My god, you'd admit that
was a bad move, Vessay. At this point right based
on the results we've had that Blake Snell has not
worked out for the Dodgers, you'd admit that. Yes, No,
I wouldn't. Why why he's made two starts? It's July second,
he's made two starts too.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm sure you were among the people that were upset
about the Yamamoto signing when he didn't pitch three months
last year.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's a pitt man. I'm not talking about Yamamotive. I'm
talking about Blake Snell. Let's stay focused, Yes or no,
Blake snells made two starts? No, that's unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Well, I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You won't admit it. This is what I'm talking about.
Fred best A will not. He likes Blake SNeW so
he wanted he's been a blas.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But Ben, did you really expect Blake Snell? Honestly, did
you expect him to really get fired up here until
after the All Star breaking?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Dave?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Isn't that normally?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Sid?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Let me ask you a question. Why am I on
this show? I g Aboutshaw and you got that blowhard mallaryhard? Yes,
talking about different things that have nothing to do with
what today is about.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, I do want to talk about Kershaw? Can I
do that?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Dave?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I know it's hard to keep your pulse on the
sports world when you're just in the studio with air
conditioned in the middle of the night talking, taking phone
calls from Bobo's from the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I take a lot of calls from the Middle East,
a lot of calls from Iraq. They love us there.
What's wrong with you? You don't even pay attention? Man? Yeah?
All right? Rather than you who do the Dodger post
game show and and our diverting, our obvious take with
Blake Snow bad job by you, best.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Okay, let's go to play Kershaw. Let's do that. Dave
over under how many innings before he gets three strikeouts?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I believe he gets them in the first three innings.
I think that's where he'll get these three strikeouts, maybe
even the second inning. I could see him getting two
in the first inning and one more in the second,
so that I don't think that's the question. Fred. The
question is, I mean amongst baseball fans is which pitch
will it be? Will it be his signature curveball, will
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it be his slider? Will it be a fastball? I
think that's what people are wondering, what will be the pitch?
And this is not the only time we have seen
a pitcher record his three thousand strikeout. Ben's favorite pitcher,
mag Scherzer recorded his three strikeout in twenty twenty one,
and Dodger Stadium gave him a curtain call. So I
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hope that happens tonight because Dodger fans already set the
stand by giving a you know, a hired gun like
Sure's are a curtain call on his three thousand strikeouts.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
We're still going to stop the game. Will there be
anything any video or anything?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Uh? My understanding is if it's in the middle of
the game, Kershaw does not want the game to be stopped,
But if it's at the end of the inning, you know,
they may flash. They obviously will flash something and maybe
certainly celebrated.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Well. Max shows will be available for game six. Do
we know that, essay or absolutely not?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Ben, you know the answer to that. Yeah, we finally
agree on something.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
There you go. He's the Dodgers could have won that
year rights against the Atlanta Breys or sures Are pitched.
That was a team worthy of winning the World Series.
But Sures couldn't pitch that day and they didn't. Obviously
they lost, and then that would have been another World
Series they would have won.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
That's right. Sure's Are saved himself for free agency, cared
about the money and trying to maximize his dollars and
not compromising anything. And he uh, he had Walker Bueller
on short rest. They were playing Catcher at Dodgers Stadium
before they boarded the plane for Atlanta, and he pointed
to Bueller and said, you know what, I think he's
(06:08):
the guy. He's the guy. My body's just not right.
I think Bueller's the guy.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, he was wrong. He was well Buller available by
the way, David, Yeah, he could come back. The Red
Sox apparently don't want him anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So, Well, he's really struggling to day.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
He's been terrible with the Red Sox.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, he's struggling. You think the dodgersould bring him back.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
It kind of feels like how Keike Hernandez is better
on the Dodgers than any other team, and he's a
better fit for the Dodgers than any other team. Look,
if it's Rock, you know they're not. The Red Sox
are not going to get anything for Walker Buehler with
that price tag remaining on his contract, even for one year.
So if the Red Sox decided to designate him for assignment,
(06:49):
if it comes to that point, then I can see
the Dodgers considering it. But the Red Sox aren't going
to get much of anything for Walker Buehler right now
or July thirty first.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Hey, Dave, Michael CONFORDO trade deadline coming? Are they looking
for the left handed bat or do they think he's
settling in.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I think he has between now and July thirty first
to produce to prove that he is Backfred and can
be a productive part of the scene and get a
lot of at bats in the left field. I believe
that's in the infant stages of him proving that, yeah,
they don't need to go out and get another outfielder.
So that's to be determined between now and July thirty first,
(07:32):
all right, and.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
As far as the trade, the actual moves are going
to make, best say, I would assume David that the
obvious one is the bullpen, as Dave Roberts has run
through the bullpen early and often and the amount of
innings they fished. So any names you're hearing that the
Dodgers are interested in as far as relief pitchers are concerned.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, Andrew Friedman's on the record, Ben is saying that
that's priority number one to go out to get a
right handed, high leverage reliever. There are a few candidates
that are kind of interesting. David Bednar from the Pirates,
who has had a really good month of June, has
been an All Star a couple of times. I mean,
there's names that you could throw out on any team,
(08:12):
including Mason Miller. I mean, if the A's are getting
ready for Las Vegas and don't really care about their
time in Sacramento. Why wouldn't they consider a big time
package for a guy like Mason Miller. That would be
to me, the prize for the Dodgers and possibly the
A's in their situation looking towards twenty twenty eight, even
(08:33):
though Miller is under control for until twenty thirty. But
you can get a lot for him right now.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
All right, Well, Dave, thanks for coming on. Really appreciate it.
You know, I'm sorry you had to scholar Ben.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
As far as a treatment, Ben Mallard is there, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
He's lying, he's lying, obviously lying. Hate.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I mean, it's great to lead into an overnight show
on doctor Talk.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well I wish I had a good leading and I
got to turn the transmitter on when I turned my
show on.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
How dare you don't worry your listeners in des Moines, Iowa?
Still love you?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Oh look at this big market la vass a man
disrespecting des Moines, Iowa of the heart of America, the
heartland of America. I dare you?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
All right? Thank you have a good one.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Bye, David.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Thanks Fred by back.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Go see Blake Snell. Go give him a massage or something.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Thanks right, Well, no, he's not gonna give him a massage. No, No,
I mean, come on, there's a line you don't want
to cross. He's not gonna go start rubbing the guy down.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
He's made two more starts than you've made, Fred and
I combined two.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I know, and I'm exhausted and more than I did.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I played more media games than he's played in My.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
God, but listen, you knew bad when they signed him,
or maybe you didn't think this. I didn't think he'd
even be doing anything to after the All Star break? Kevin?
Isn't that normally his mo o? He gets going right
around the All Star break?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Well, I'd say of the last couple of seasons, he's
had some injury issues early on. So I don't know
if that's been his mo throughout his career, but generally
speaking in recent memory, yes.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
So, Fred, I don't you should rest off for football season? There? Fred? Right?
I mean, you don't do these shows. You might lose
your voice between football before football season. You know, God forbid,
you get paid for the whole year. I mean, what
are we doing here? Seriously?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
What do we doing? It's very different than it used
to be, and you know that.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I know.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But he doesn't mean it's right for it. It does
not mean it's right.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Well, it's not right to us when you have to
work every day, but I assure you it's right to
him if you only have to work half the time.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Well people, well yeah, but the people who are like
defending it, that's I mean, listen, he's what does he have?
A body full body soreness? Is what they said? Is
that what they said he had or something like that. Yeah,
don't you have.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That, Fred, Listen, I'm in pain right now.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
I think that was a class now that have the
body sore in this issue?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Is what did Snell? I thought he had a similar thing.
I thought they they were trying to figure out what
it was like. This is kind of doesn't feel right.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
And yeah, yeah, shoulder inflammation is what Snell's been there.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It is inflammation. There you go, there it is. I
put some icy stuff on it and rub it and
ice and all that.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
There you go. All right, Uh, don't forget this hour.
Not now. We're giving away those tickets fourth of July
game Dodgers and Astros, and Kevin has just sent us
some information. I think we have an update on DeAndre
Ayton and the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Now we have breaking news.
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Speaker 1 (11:40):
I've been mallaging today for Rodney, getting ready for the
fourth of July. Let's give it the Dodger tickets away.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Let's just do it, do it, do it?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Everybody wants the Dodger tickets Fourth of July game Dodgers
Astros one pair eight six six nine eight seven two
five seventy. What calling number you want, Ben, Let's do.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Call her fifteen, Ray caller fifteen, call her fifteen. You
want to how about no? You want to know?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
We'll do fifteen.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I just want to know you'll go higher. I mean
I can go higher of you. How do you want
to go? No? Go fifteen, because no, I go higher
if you want? I mean, fifteen is a low number.
Fifty's a low number. Fred I went low.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I just don't know if we have fifteen people listening, well,
I would.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Hope we I mean I have seven, and I think
you got You're a big daytime show, so I think
you'd have more. My overnight show is seven, so I
know I'm bringing seven people. I know I've got Terry
in England listening. I've got my guy Alf in Springfield,
mass he's lifting listening. So I've got those guys. I
got my base, Fray, and then you've got your base
so together. See, I'm really worried about I know, these
(12:40):
radio promotions. The person that has to go through the calls,
they've got the hard job. So if we went like
callers seven hundred, then whoever has to answer the phone
the call in line will lose their mind, right, So
we can't go that high. Now, I feel like fifteen
fifteen is too low. So maybe we've got to go
a little higher there. Fifteen. No, I think fifteen is
(13:00):
too low for it. I think no.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I think I think Kevin would tell you fifteen is justifying.
He's answering the calls.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Oh so Kevin's the one that's got to oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Kevin's handling it. Now about caller. Let's see here, Well,
twenty seventeen, how about seventeen. Well, the raisers for the
twenty seventeen they're.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Probably already said fifteen.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
We played, we said fifteen. We're stuck on fifteen.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
We can be determined.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Once we've said fifteen, that's it. The final numbers fifteen.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right, Because as a broadcast professional, you're aware of the
fact there are FCC rules. Once you've said it's caller fifteen,
then you can't turn around and go now one seventeen.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I want you to know, Fred, you're the dean. But
I've I've graduated from iHeart University. Every year, I have
taken the online training year after year. I am certified.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Everybody has been so hard.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I thought I was special.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
No, but you know what, in the most recent one,
mind froze right in the middle.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh that's the worst, man.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It stopped, and then I went back to it and
it's still frozen in the exact same spot. And you know,
if you don't get them done by a certain point
in time.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, you get in trouble. You get called into the
principal's office. At this point, though, I've done the iHeart
training so much, I can do it with my eyes
closed and not even listening. I know, I know all
the answers for all the answers to those questions, all
of them all right.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
So a couple of years ago they had a different
one on harassment. It was a different one than we
have now. And by the way, listening, you have to understand,
we go through these trainings every year, and the reason
we go through them is because then if we do
something stupid, we could never say, well, the company told us,
don't do that, so you can get fired. And one
of them is harassment. And the old one they had,
(14:39):
and I don't know if you remember this, there was
a scene with a woman by the copy machine. Yes,
and the woman by the copy machine was bending over
to get some copies, and you got these three guys
sitting there looking at her, going oh hey, wow, you know,
and then the question becomes is this appropriate? Should you
be doing something like that at work? What should you
(14:59):
do if you see something like that? So anyway, it
was the woman by the copy machine and everybody's looking
at her.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I don't know why, but I had just seen the
video that day as I went through the training, and
just understand, these trainings can go anywhere from thirty minutes
to one hour. Yeah right, and you can't pass it.
Kind of like traffic school. But yeah, you're pretty much stuck.
You got to watch the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
All right.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So the copy machine was fresh in my mind. I
go home. I think, you know what, I'm gonna go
across the street to Foreman's and get a drink. I
go across the riverside, I go to Foremans. I walk in.
I'm at the bar and I'm looking at the bartender
and I'm thinking to myself, God, I know you from somewhere.
(15:43):
I've seen you before. And then she comes up and
I kind of know where we've said hello in the past.
But she comes up and I go, you're the girl
by the copy machine.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
No, yes, it was me, No, it was me. No way,
that was awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, but what a small world.
That's great.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
That was so funny.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That yeah, that wild. Yeah. We had one time years ago,
we actually had in in office harassment sexual harassment training.
There was an incident that happened years ago. Statute of
limitations was run out right, So one of the guys,
a former NFL player, was in the meeting and he
had already lined up another job. He knew he was leaving,
(16:28):
so he decided to have some fun. He would ask
the most obviously offensive questions to the person who was training,
and it was we were all we were all trying
not to laugh because we knew he was leaving, and
he was asking the most obvious offensive questions and this
poor woman was trying to answer them. It was very awkward,
it was. It was hilarious and awkward at the same time.
(16:48):
It was great, tremendous memories of that in in person
training that we had to go through.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I've never had that in all the years. No, you've
never had in person training.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, try to avoid it, Fred.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
No, he had the NBC Legal seminar that that was
like two and a half hours. They tried to make
it fun. And all they're doing in these trainings, if
you're working, by the way, and you're driving around or
you're listening to the office you have a job, what
they're doing is a informing you about things that you
know you should know about and how to react, which
is good, and then be basically protecting themselves.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, it's plausible innability. They say, well, if you told
you and you can't deny it, and so you don't
have plausible deniability. You've eliminated that and you're gone. Here's
a cardboard box, get your stuff and write.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So you got to take the trainings. You got to
do them.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And if you don't. I've tried to avoid them because
I usually don't check my work email because they get
rid of that when they get rid of you. So
I usually don't check the work email, but I'll get
angry emails from my boss like, hey, you got to
check this, dude, what's wrong with you. I'm going to
get in trouble if you don't do this training.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And that's the line they always use. Yeah, oh hey,
I'm in trouble. Yeah, it's me if you don't do this,
so please do it. It's like my boss when I'm
doing this TV news show, says to me all the time, listen,
I'm begging you, please please don't get a sued, please
just please don't Like I'm not going to get a suit.
(18:13):
And he always says to me, degrees, he's great. We
work together in LA for years. Oh cool, he says,
here's the bottom line. If you get a sued and
you get us in trouble. You're still going to work here,
but they're going to fire me.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's funny. See, I have the My mantra Fred on
the Overnight Show is I just don't want to get
a call during the day from management. That's my only
I just don't want I don't want to be woken
up by somebody who's in management complaining at something that
I said at three in the morning, you know, or
two in the morning whatever. So I was like, just
my goal every night is just I want to do
a good show. I want to, but I don't want
to get that call. It's not being sued, although I have.
(18:52):
You know, I got threatened with lawsuits. I got many
legal letters when I had my my website years ago.
But on the radio I've been able to circumvent that
for the most part. But when I did that website,
I got I got lawyer, I got lawyer letters I had.
It was unbelievable how many people were like threatening to
sue me for were the stories that I and I remember,
(19:12):
I was aggregating, so I wasn't like writing writing stories
or whatever. I was mostly aggregation and people would sue me.
I had a football coach who had been in the NFL.
And then it was like a college coach and he
was upset with something I said. There was a college
basketball coach at a small school who was in the
NCAA tournament and I had written something and I'd taken
some quotes that he had said in a news conference,
(19:34):
and he said I misquoted him, and he demanded that
I take the story down. He threatened to assume me
and all this stuff. And of course I'm like, dude,
I'm doing a small blog. Who why are you getting
so upset? But people were getting very upset with me.
That was in the early days before social media, back
in the old days, you know, twenty five years ago
or whatever. People could get very defensive, man very upset.
But but yeah, I tried to avoid just getting the
(19:55):
call from management. Fred. That's my goal at night, and
I want to do a good show, but I don't
want to get that phone call.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You know, have you gotten have gotten called?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Ben? I? Have I have gotten a call?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
What could you have done on your overnight show to
get a call? I?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I this is You're gonna one of the times. I'll
give an example. There's a couple of times that's happened.
But the most ridiculous one was a caller from from Boston.
We're syndicated, so a caller from Boston. I ripped Johnny Pesky,
you know, the Pesky poll, and at the time, we
were on the Red Sox station in Boston, and this
guy had it out. He said what I had done.
(20:32):
You know, he was upset it was on the Red
Sox station, so he called the station to complain. He
called the Boston Red Sox to complain, right, so then
the Red Sox were involved. They then contacted my employer
and it became this whole big thing where I had
to call this guy up and they because they were
threatening to pull you know, there's some legal stuff involved,
pull the show or whatever. So it was a big pain.
I mean, it was not. It was the most benign
(20:54):
thing I thought. You know, I was like Johnny Penn,
who cares if you take a shot at Johnny Pesky?
Apparently he's royalty in Boston and though you're not allowed
to do that. So very upset with me. Yeah, how
ridiculous is that? But I'm still upset by that. I
had to call this listener off the air and talk
to him.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I can't believe they made you do that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
They did, they made me do it this.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
How did the guy react.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
The the you know, the usual Fred. The guy was like, well,
I like your show, but you crossed the line. You know,
you can't talk about Johnny Pesky. This guy, you know,
he's give me the whole up in the Boston Action.
He's like, we named the foul pole, but Pesky poll
because of Johnny. You can't say that on you know,
he was all of fan I said. I had said
it after a Red Sox game or something like that,
so he was all upset. But it was the most
(21:35):
ridiculous thing in the world. But but in general, I mean,
I'll get calls about you know, people complain about things
like that, or I'll say I'll give you another example.
Remember the uh, the pitchers, Phil Nekro and Joe Nicro. Yes,
so I made a joke about the the Necro brothers, right, okay,
(21:56):
and they used it as a drug. I say it
like one time they use there's a drop right, and
people would call up Fred because they don't listen. They
thought you might imagine what they thought I said, Fred,
I said the Negro brothers. They thought I said a
different n word that is not necro, but something close
to it. And people would listen with half an ear,
(22:18):
and they swore that I said that. I said no,
I never said that. I was It was a throw
in line about you know, the Necro brothers and the
knuckleball pitchers, and they thought I had said this like
offensive thing, and they were like, I couldn't believe they
were really convinced that I had said it. I was like, no,
I never I would never say that. I mean no.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So that might be one of the greatest stories I've
ever heard.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Oh no, let me tell you, Kevin, No I had.
I had people sending me letters, angry letters that this
would be played on the air, and it was. It was.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
It was.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
It was I do these who am I game questions
or whatever at night and people send dopey answers him.
And so they'll send old baseball players because it's funny
to hear old baseball player named from forty years ago whatever,
And so I would just make it joke out of it,
and I said it. And then Roberto, my old engineer,
he made it as a drop or whatever. And then
next thing I know, I'm getting angry emails people are
(23:08):
calling the you know, Fox Sports Radio. Did you know
what Mahler said? I didn't say it. I said the
Phill and Joe Nekro I didn't say. But people hear
what they hear. Fred, they hear what they hear.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
They hear what they hear, and also Ben, they hear
what they want to hear.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
That's true, that is accurate. You're not wrong on that.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know, I always say in this new kind of
weird world, I entered to try something different. You listen
to what I say, not what you want to hear,
because there's a distinct difference. Don't try to convince yourself
that I did I said something other than what I said,
because no matter what you say, you know, people know,
well that's not what you meant. I just told you
(23:47):
what I meant. I just said it now, But that's
not what you meant.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
It'll have some kind of ulterior motives, there's something else
going on there. But yeah, it happens all the time.
I mean it happens. I feel like it happens more
in like the written word, as I said, the website stuff.
But what we do, you know, people listen and we
like to think everyone I got to think everyone's like
old school early days of radio Fred. They're wrapped around
you know, the Rogan or Rodney Show, and they're listening
to every word. But you're driving, you're working, right, You're
(24:14):
you're doing you're futsing around on your phone, You're you're
doing something at work. You're not paying total attention to
what's being said. Right. It's background noise.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, that's what it is. And that's why we have
to be so incredibly compelling, which we're not.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Uh that dare.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I don't take that kindly? Uh Okay, So here's the
update on DeAndre Ayton. Multiple interested teams. According to Mark Stein,
expect him to commit to the Lakers after he clears
waivers today at five pm.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
There it is five year, which has already cleared. So yeah,
so which is now? It was a half hour ago.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
So now it's five So what do we know, Kevin?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Still nothing official that I've seen, but I'm still monitoring.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Well, he was photographed though, you saw, I'm sure you
guys by talking about he had the Dodger had on
DeAndrea yesterday on social media. So that's a dead giveaway, Fred,
dead giveaway. Got the Dodger cap he didn't have an
Indiana Indians cap for the Triple A team there in Indianapolis.
He had a Dodger cap on.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
So Chris Haynes just a minute ago did tweet out
or X, I don't know what you call it, it's
on X. Free agent center DeAndre Aiden is expected to
sign with the LA Lakers, according to my sources. Allows
for Chris Haynes a minute ago.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
There you go, all right?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So seriously, is there a time to celebrate?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Not for me, but not for you either, Fred you pointed,
we both are not teammate, We're not DeAndre eating guys.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
We're having Is it a time for you to celebrate?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I don't know if i'd say i'd celebrate. I would
say as a fan of the team, when you have
a chance to get a player of his ilk on
the court and the possibilities of what he could do,
I think you're a little bit excited. You're probably cautiously
optimistic that it can work out, but you have to
have reservations based on his.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
History until he vanishes in Game three of the playoffs
and you're like, where did he go? What happened to DeAndre?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Or in the fourth one, maybe he'll put up good
stats the first half, right, and then the second half
he'll vanish. Isn't that what he did with the Suns? Fred,
when you were watching him there with the Suns, he would,
oh yeah, stretches of games, heat parts, heat parts of
the game.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I'm more concerned about how many games you'll actually play.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Well, there's that.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
And if we need double confirmation, Schams just tweeted eight
and has agreed to sign with the LA Lakers.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
There you go, DeAndre eight, another number one overall pick
going to the going to the Lakers. And we did
have a winner, Fred, we did have a lucky winner.
Do you see that we have a lucky winner? Those
Dodger tickets one an Arcadie, congratulations won enjoy the ravine? Beautiful?
Was that six o'clock start on Friday the fourth? I
believe it success.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
That is a six ten start, absolutely perfect.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Man, That sun sets and then shortly after that these
games are all like two and a half hours now
and then boom, fireworks. Awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Ben. We were talking earlier about Caitlin Clark and how
her her fellow WNBA players ranked her when it came
to the All Star Game. Voting ninth. She's not nine,
she's not having the greatest year, and she's been hurt,
but ninth. And we said, you know, maybe they're jealous.
Maybe they're jealous. Well, do you think they will have
anything to do with it? Front Office Sports reported Caitlyn
(27:14):
Clark's first signature shoe. Insider say it could be worth
one hundred and fifty million dollars. It could be a
top five signature franchise across basketball.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Now, how do you get to that number?
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Are?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Here's the question I have for you, Fred, Are dude's
gonna buy her shoe?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Great question?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Are guys gonna buy? She's so cool Caitlyn Clark, that guys,
because that's always that gray area, right, even in these
new times that we live in, Fred, you know, are
you gonna wear her clothing, her shoes to model yourself?
Like the women's market? I get right, because if you're
a young girl playing basketball, she's gotta be for for
most everyone, she's the hero because she's the star of stars.
(27:53):
She's crossed over, not just a women's star, she's crossed
over for everything.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
But what about the dudes, Well, what's the difference between
a man's and a woman's shoe.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Well, will they have a male version of the Caitlin
Clark shoe though? That's what I'm saying. Is it just
gonna be only for women? Or are they gonna have
a male version and a women's version?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah? But what I'm saying is, Okay, it's a it's
a woman's shoe. Yeah, but what does that mean? Does
it look different than a man's shoe?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I worked at foot locker for years. I worked in
the shoe business, so I'm an expert on shoes, and
it's all about the style. Fred, It's all about the look.
It's all about the outside, not the inside. Is that right?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
For it?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Does that work? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It works? So that means that means you could wear
a woman's tenter shoe, a woman's basketball shoe.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
But aren't women's shoes smaller than men's shoes?
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Though?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That's what's I believe. That's what I believe. That's it,
which is women's feet are generally I'm get in trouble here,
but aren't women's feet generally smaller than men men's sizes?
In women's sizes? Right? That's like? Yeah, So are they
saying is if.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
There's a woman's shoe that a man can fit into,
And you said, our dude's gonna wear the shoe. So
I don't know what the biggest woman's shoe will be,
but if the man can fit into it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Well, But I think what they're gonna do is, because
she's such a big star, they'll have like a male
version and a woman's version to try to get the
full marketplace. But that Mike wash is, will man actually
buy it? That's my thing. You know, maybe if you have,
like your daughter's playing basketball, you'll buy it in that respect.
But if you're if you're just like a meat and
potatoes sports guy, are you gonna wear a Caitlin Clark
Nike basketball shoe out and about on a random Saturday
(29:24):
afternoon when you're with your friends. To me, I'm not
a shoe guy, so I don't. I'm not really the
shoe guy.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I think it would depend on how it looked. Yeah,
I wouldn't care, Kevin, would you care?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh not at all.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
I mean if the shoes looked at the great design
and I thought it was something that would look nice
with whatever I have, I'd buy Brianna Stuart's shoes.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Like, I don't care what are you shoe. Are you
a shoe guy, Kevin, I'm not, though I'm not a
sneaker head, so okay, yeah, I'm not. Yeah. I know
some people that collect them and trade them, and there's
like a whole market of that stuff. But that's not me.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
But if I was in the market for sneakers, I
was just saying I walked by, I was in a store, off,
I was in foot lock or whoever, and I had
no association, had no idea who shoes they were. I
was like, Oh, those shoes like nice, purchase them.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Go up, do them and put them on.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
So I was like, oh, snap, you weren't Kaitlyn Clark shoes.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I was like, oh, okay, cool.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
It would not It would not preclude me from from
purchasing them, nor will it encourage me to purchase them.
If I like the design of the shoe, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
What do you think, Ronnie, would you would not?
Speaker 6 (30:19):
No, No, I perhaps they might look nice, but not
for me. Maybe I'd buy them for my wife.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Look at that. See Ronnie's a man's man, Fred. You
see that, that's Ronnie Fossio. He's not messing around here.
And I am a shoe guy. Fred, how many how
many pairs of shoes you got, Ronnie?
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Uh, probably too many to count right now?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Really? Yeah, over one hundred, are we? No?
Speaker 6 (30:44):
No, no, that's not no, I'm not I'm not that
You're not that level.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
No, okay, but you have a fair amount enough shoes,
fair amount. Yes, you have to decide, like what you're
gonna wear based on the you know you have. You
have options. You have like thirty pairs of shoes.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
It's nice to have options. No less than thirty pairs
of shoes, Okay, I'm prepp maybe like fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Okay, so let's say you have sixteen pairs, less than twenty,
you have sixteen. Let's say, really, how often do you
wear all sixteen? You don't, right, Nope? Are there some
of the shoes I have been worn in years?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Fred? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
So what do you do with them?
Speaker 6 (31:20):
They sit in my closet.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You look at him every once in a while.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You never attempted to put them on.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
I have a pair of Jordans that I bought a
first edition a few years ago, and I've only worn
them twice. You gotta have those, You got to keep
those wear occasional shoes, Fred, You have to wear. You
have to wear the shoes according to the occasion. So
you know, if if it's a fancy occasion, then you know,
you break out the Jordans, you break out.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
We'll break out the retro ones. What would a special
occasion be for the Jordans? Like, what would it have
to be for you to pull the Jordans out?
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Is it like Rob Parker's birthday party in Phase which.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You were there too?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Bit was? I was at that event. We saw each
other there, we did it was. That was quite the
scene there. Remember when stephen A showed up and uh
two hours late with two armed security Yeah, he had
a security guards there, two of them. He had two
armed security guards. Stephen A. Do you have armed security?
You're the Dean Fred, Do you have armed security when
you're going around?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
No? But I happened to see steven A in Atlanta
a couple of months ago when he had two armed
security guards. Yeah, he's had security years ago when I
had the website.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It was actually during the Pete Carroll years of USC
and at the the old Coliseum press box, I went,
I had to go to the bathroom and steven A
came in there. But his bodyguard closed the bathroom. Nobody
else could get in because we're worried. I guess I
was going to attack Stephen a while he was at
the journal at the coliseum. So it was very odd,
and I wrote about that. He did not appreciate that.
(32:49):
So he did not appreciate that I wrote about that.
I thought it was odd, though, Oh yes, of course
it was odd. It's not normal behavior.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I mean no, But if in fact that was happening,
you know how many threats must he get?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
And this was a long time ago too, This is
not I mean, he's he's a bigger deal now than
he was even back then, so I'm sure he gets
a lot. That's what happens. It's the internet, man, So
that's how they roll on the internet.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
All right, Well, we're gonna roll out of here after
this next break.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I'm not going anywhere, Fred, I'm sitting right here. I'm
not getting up. I'm gonna do the whole show. I'm
gonna run through the finish line.
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Speaker 1 (33:39):
All right, Ben is in today for Rodney, And before
we get out of here, we have a confirmed Kevin
has been diligently checking, constantly, keeping an eye on things.
And there should be celebration if you are a DeAndre
Ayton fan, because it's in the books. Two years, sixteen
point six million dollars. Uh, he's got a player option
(34:00):
for twenty six twenty seven, so he can get out
of here if he wants there.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It is.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
There's your Lakers center, DeAndre Ayden, former first round pick.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, number one overall pick, and he's every generation as
a guy like DeAndre Eaton, who's gifted, talented and all that,
but yet it doesn't really put it all together. And
yet if you don't watch him every game, you think
he's better than he is. And yeah, he'll get a
chance to reinvent himself with the Lakers. If you were
betting red and if I gave you one thousand dollars
(34:29):
to bet, will DeAndre Ayton reinvent himself into the complete
version of DeAndre Eton? Or will he continue to be
a malingering player that causes more heartache than anything else?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I think he will have initially moments of brilliance because
he has to write, because he's on the clock and
people are looking at him, and it's a new situation
and he's with the Lakers. But I really think he
will revert back to being exactly who he is.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I agree. Uh. It reminds me of previous generations. There's
always been players like that in every sport, but in basketball,
remember the old school days, benoyed Benjamin back in the day, right,
that's right? When's that document Is that documentary out? I
have not seen the documentary? Is it out? Yeah? Yeah,
where's it at? I want to watch it. I seriously
(35:21):
would love to watch.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Figure out where it is.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Send me a message, send me a text or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Let me let me figure it out and I'll get
it to you. But you know, is he I don't
know DeAndre Ayton? Is he Michael Olower? Candy?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
There's another that's a more that's a more relevant example.
Even that's a dated example though, but that's a that's
another guy that was really talented but never put it
all together, like the under eight and will he be serviceable?
And well he'll get you some double doubles and all that.
But he's not going to dominate. The idea you think
number one overall pick and the amount of attention that
(35:53):
he got with the Sons, that he would dominate games,
but he's he hasn't been that guy. He's not he's
not a franchise alling player. And I know as well
the Lakers don't need that. They have Luca and right
now they have Lebron and all that. But I feel
like there should be a warning label Fred with DeAndre
Ayden because a lot of people don't pay that close attention.
They think he's better. He just doesn't have a motor.
He's lacking a motor. That's my determinator, that's my NBA analysis, Fred,
(36:17):
he needs a new motor.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Is he Markel Folts?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Uh? He's better than Markel Folts, But the attitude's gonna
pop up. He doesn't he doesn't like contact, and he's
seven foot tall and he doesn't play a physical style
despite his size. He's not very aggressive. I mean, those
are the things you want. You don't want someone who's passive.
He's got the size, like he should dominate, but he
(36:43):
doesn't use that to his He hasn't used that to
his ability. He's not like he's not a bust, but
he's not living up to what people think he should be.
So it's like it's like he could be better, but
he just doesn't seem to care. So that's where he
is at this point. But you will have it. He'll
have a chance with the Lakers. Well you got it
(37:04):
for two years, right, Fred, You said two years, so
he'll be there for a couple of years. And more
noise about Lebron too. There's more noise out today. Is
this all clickbait ors? There's something to it about Lebron
not being happy and this that and the other thing
Lebron wants out blah blah blah blah blah. Every every
ten minutes. There's a new Lebron story out there also.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
And that is something we will explore tomorrow and you
can talk about it tonight on your show. So I
just want to say to you, you're doing this again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I have Day Night doubleheader, Fred, Day Night double pain.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
It's a royal. Pia's work that late and get up and.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
The dean of LA Sports and my guy Kevin and Ronnie.
This is a great team you got here, Fred. These
are professional radio people, good people.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
They are good people. All right, Ronnie, thank you, Kevin.
Great job Ben. Let's do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
We'll do it, Fred. We'll run it back again, Fred,
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