August 5, 2025 • 49 mins
The Dodgers lost to the Cardinals as Brock Stewart struggled in his return to the club. We discuss the human element of being traded mid-season (uprooting your family on a moments' notice etc). Amid an interview that Luka Doncic's agent did with Dan Woike about his loyalty to the Lakers, the guys talk about if loyalty in pro sports really exists.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go, three hour show today, Fred Rogan,
Rodney Pete at a five seventy LA Sports Rodney, how
you doing. I'm doing good, Fred, I'm doing good. Yeah, yeah,
I see you do it. You got your smiley shirt on.
I got that's right. Although I'm frowning on the inside.
You might see a smile outside, but I'm frowning on
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the inside, Rodney. Before the trade deadline, everybody talked about
the fact the Dodgers need a reliever, they need somebody
for the pen. All right, they went out and got somebody.
And last night, don't worry about that. That was not
a great outing. Don't don't give that a second thought,
because things happen, and we'll get more into that. Rock
Stewart struggled. But the thing I said, you said it
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as well. You are on the record. Go get somebody
that can hit. Please, go get another stick. That's what
you need. You need someone that can hit. I know
the pitching will be okay. I am confident of that fact.
But my worry, my concern before the trade deadline and
now they need hitting. And last night was a perfect
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example of why they didn't hit. Again, they didn't hit. Yeah,
Freddie Homer. Okay, aside from that, they didn't hit, and
what if they scored three runs, and however many innings
it's been, it's awful they're not hitting, and poor Mookie.
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Some people took David Vassay's advice and did give him
a standing ovation, and it was just the way it's
going for him. Summed it all up in the ninth inning.
That summed up where Mookie bets is. Right now, he
kind of chips one to right. Worst case it's foul.
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Best case it'll be fair. If it bounces, he might
even get a double out of it. And nowt Bar
comes out of no dies, slides and catches the ball.
That was a hit, albeit not a great one, but
it would have been a hit. And he couldn't even
get that. Somebody came flying in and took that away
from him. Yeah, it's either one or the other. Right.
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A lot of times, like he's be honest, he's hit
some balls like really hard. In the series when they
were on the road in Cincinnati, hit a couple of
them really hard, especially won the center field that the
big kid caught that could have been a gap, a
double in the gap, but the guy chased it down
and reached up and caught it and you know, running
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full speed, and then this one, you know, a little
chippy Either one of those, usually one of those is
falling for you. So when it's going bad, both of
them are not falling for you. And that is exactly
is what has happened in the Mookie because when he
does hit it hard, it's right at somebody. And when
you think you're gonna get a little chippy because you
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need those, everybody needs those during the course of a season.
He's a little bit of luck, a little bit of
Texas leaguers as they call them, you know, something that
bloops over the infield. And he's not getting any of those. No,
not one. And the Dogers aren't getting those either, No, no,
they're not. What makes it even glaring more right, because yeah,
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not only is Mookie struggling, but the team is struggling,
and so it just highlights Mookie even more that the
entire team is struggling and him, being the leader and
one of the best players on the team is struggling,
it just all focuses more on him. Yeah, and here's
the issue. The team is built so that if one
guy is struggling, the other eight will pick him up.
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If two are struggling, the other seven got them. But
you never expected one of the guys struggling to be
Mookie ever. I mean, they talked about the fact that, man,
you know, we've kind of changed the batting order around
a little bit, and uh, you know, we let him
hit leadoff. Now he's hitting second again, you might get
to a point where Monkie's not going to be hitting
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that high in the order. I mean, just take it
all the good will and nobody says people don't love him,
but he's not hitting Now. How long? When was it?
How long was Freddy slump? Remember Freddy was getting in
a funk last year. He said it, we said it,
and maybe it was the start the season and then
we you know, found out he was dealing with his
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son and all the other things. But it was a
good two months that Freddy was maybe longer than that,
and we said it on a show that he just
doesn't look like he's having any fun. And he struggled
for a while, but eventually, you know, obviously got it
going and went crazy in the postseason. And maybe that's
the case, but right now, yeah, it's you know, again.
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His answers the other day was, I don't know what
else I can do. I've been doing everything, and maybe
that's it. Maybe he's doing too much, Maybe he's overthinking
it too much and trying to spend too many hours
in the cage and trying to fix it too much,
and just hey, I'm just gonna wake up, get to
the park and go play baseball. I'm not gonna do
anything extra. I'm just gonna go clear my mind and
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go play, which I'm sure people have told him, and
I'm sure he's thought about. But it's hard for a
guy that's built a certain way, that prepares a certain way,
to try to change that up. But sometimes you got to, yeah,
well something's got to give here. And I know the
only thing you can really do is let him fight
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his way out of it, play his way out of it,
go out there right night. That's it. Just want to
come together. You said move down. I don't see him
moving down the lineup until if it gets to you know, September,
and you know the race is tight and we were,
you know, looking to figure out how we're going to
approach the postseason, then yeah, maybe, but the rest of
this month, I don't see him or them moving him
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down to seventh in the lineup. Well, he's got a hit, period,
he's got to hit Tyler Glass now looked good last night,
gave on up early, then settled in, really pitched well
enough to win that game. If he had anyone would
have won. To gain any kind of run support. He
wins that game. I mean, that's the thing too, Fred,
is that they have been because of the offense, They've
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wasted some really good outings by their pitchers. I mean,
they'll get me wrong, there's been some struggles. There's been
a lot of really good outings that they have wasted.
I can name by three or four for Yamamoto that
they've wasted where he's pitched him to the sixth or
seventh inning and got no run support. Glass now last
couple of times he's gotten no run support, which is
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which is very difficult. I mean, those guys, I know
they they think we're the Dodgers. So I hold him
to two runs, we're gonna win this game. I hold
them three, we're gonna win because I know our offense
is gonna score four above and that's just not the
case right now. No, he pitched well enough to win.
Rock Stewart came in struggle, just a fair statement, struggle.
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Dave Roberts says, he's going to give him the ball
a lot. Yeah, that's why they traded for him. Didn't
go his way last night. Struggled and that was it.
That was the ballgame. And here's the other thing, and
we talked about it in the past. Those guys aren't
having any fun right now. Dodgers aren't having fun. I'll
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tell you had fun last night. The Cardinals had fun
when they won that game. Afterwards, they were smile, laughing,
slapping each other because every game is a World Series
for the opponent, absolutely, and they were having a good time.
Dodgers thinks so much. Sonny cy Young Gray was fantastic
for the Dodgers. I mean he was. I mean, you
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seriously thought he was Cy Young or the second coming
to Roger Clemens. Mean, he was. He shut this offense down.
And you're right. They were excited as as any team
comes into Dodgers Stadium. It's one thing to beat the
Dodgers at your own home ballpark. You know, a lot
of teams are expected in a three or four game series.
They wouldn't get one we're gonna get one Dodgers. But
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when you come to Dodger Stadium and you see fifty
thousand out there and their Dodger fans are fanatics and
crazy and yelling and screaming, and you beat them and
at at their place, at at Dodger Stadium, Yeah, everybody
gets excited about that. That's a big win. That's like
winning two. Yeah, so I'll try again tonight. That's the
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only way to look at it. And it's not about
the pitching. They've just got a hit. It's pure and simple.
They've got a hit. Did you hear if key K
maybe done for the year. I heard that. I heard that,
which is hopefully that's not going to be the case.
But man, that'd be that'd be bad because you know,
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we all know what he can do in the postseason.
He's mister clutching the postseason. He comes through. He can
play multiple positions. But if that is the case, Fred,
that is goes back to your point of needed to
get a bat, another another hitter, because you don't have
key K going you know forward, you aren't going to
need another guy. And I just hope that that that
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that report is not you know, accurate, that he's going
to miss the rest of the season with that elbow.
Because he is a guy that is vital for Dodger's
success and has been vital for Dodger's success over the
last few years. Bill plunk It will be on the
show at one o'clock. We'll get the lights from him.
We'll talk to Bill about that. Let's talk about brock Stewart.
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Interesting piece in the Times about being traded, and as
a guy that played, you can probably comment on this,
although I don't think you ever traded, not during this
you would have trade season, not during the season, right, Okay,
so you know, brock Stewart gets traded and Dodger fans
got excited. He's been here before. That's the arm Andrew
Friedman wanted. So in your mind you think, all right,
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get on the plane and get here and get her
as quick as possible. And that's exactly what he did
about what you forget about. And it was great because
he talked about it because he's not a machine. He's
a human being. He's married with two young kids. Now
what all you care about? And it's his job get
here and pitch. Now what now? What does he do?
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And he talked about his wife having to pack up
their two young kids, figure out a way to get
to Los Angeles get settled. He doesn't get two or
three days off to get them comfortable, to be there
for them. He's got to go to work every day.
And I think that's lost Rodney in the big picture,
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if somebody's traded, really lost the family, the family element
and it and and it's obviously worse during during the
season and the off season. You can you know, you're
not playing, so you can help out. But during the season,
the unsung hero of anybody having a success is is
that wife at home. Basically, if you're you know you
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have kids, because you know, during the season, your focus
is on playing and you're on the road quite a bit.
So when you're on a road for a ten day
road trip, it is your wife back at home dealing
with the kids on a regular basis, taking them to school,
if they get sick, they got to take them to
the doctor, got to feed them, all those things without
any help. And it is extremely stressful. And when you
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get traded like he did in the middle of the season,
and you got to pick up and no, I'm not
going to Cleveland I'm going to Tampa to go meet
the Dodgers, and he says, oh, honey, we got to
move to la because I'm gonna be there now, So
you got to start packing up and packing up things
so we can, uh, you can meet me out there.
That is a huge job and a huge burden on
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your wife, who's got to do it basically on our own,
because you got to go pitch and you got to
go be with the team. It's it is, it's a
it's a thankless situation. And they need, you know, speaking
of the wives, need to get the credit that they
deserve because they really are the backbone that allow a
lot of these guys, basically the married ones with kids,
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the ability to clear their head and be able to
go out and perform at a high level. Look at
it like this, listening right now. You're married, you involved,
you have a partner, you have kids. Just imagine if
you're driving around right now, your phone rang. Let's say
you're a driver for one of our drivers. Let's say
for Ups Rodney Okay or Amazon FedEx, one of our drivers,
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and many listen to the program. All Right, you're driving around,
you're married, you have kids, and you get off today
at five and the phone rings. You pick up the
phone and it's somebody from the corporate office and they say, listen,
you need to drive to Lax right now. You've been
transferred to Charlotte, so you need to get on a
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plane and be driving tomorrow. Go to the airport right now.
What would you do when for you? Yeah, yeah, there's
a ticket. You get there. Your flight's at three. We've
got a hotel for you, and you'll be driving tomorrow
morning at eight am. What would you do well, you'd go,
oh gee, all right, you start driving to Lax, But
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then you have to call the person at home with
the kids. Hi, listen, I didn't expect this, but I've
just been transferred to Charlotte and I have to be
working tomorrow. No, I can't come home. I don't have
time to help you. I know we have three kids.
I don't know what you're supposed to tell them, but
I got to get to the airport. So you figure
out a way to get to the airport with the
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three kids. As soon as you can close the house
down here, bring enough stuff with you, fly into Charlotte.
Let me know when you get there, and I'll try
to have somebody pick you up and take you to
a hotel. But when you get there, because I'll be
working every day, then you have to find an apartment
or a house for us with the three kids who
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you just took out of school. How do you think
that would work? Yeah? Is that stressful at all? Extremely stressful?
And you better hope and you just hope and pray
that that call comes when or that time that happens
for you is when your kids are young, really young, right,
because imagine if it's a kid that's you got kids
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that are ten, twelve, and fourteen. You know they're in elementary,
middle school and starting high school, and you got to
pull them out of school and take them away from
their friends who they've built a relationship with and go
to a new city right away. That is extremely stressful
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because you know, kids don't care that you got to
pitch them all night. They love you, but they're mad
because I'm not going to see my buddies Jake and
Roman and Dave no more. I got to leave them
behind and I don't even really get to say goodbye. Oh.
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By the way, I had practice and I finally made
the team, and I finally made the starting lineup on
my middle school team. Oh now I got to move.
I mean, those are the things you got to go
through and think about. And granted there's a lot of
guys that make the decision. Okay, well we'll wait till
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the season's over, stay there, and then we'll figure it
out after the season. So when you got young kids
and a wife at home, that's dealing with young kids,
it's difficult, difficult, And again, as a player, you want
your family with you too, because that is that comfort
when you come home after a game, after a tough
one too, you want to be around family so you
can get away from it. Yeah. What people don't understand
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in any line of work, no matter how successful you are,
but whatever your chosen feel of endeavor is, no matter
how much success you achieve, you understand that's your job.
That's your work. But work ends every day at some
point or another. For some it's longer hours, some shorter.
But then work is over and then you go to
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where you go home. And who will you see at home?
Your family if you have one, if you're in a relationship,
maybe friends, But that's where you go. And when it's
all said and done and the game has passed you by.
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You've retired, and it doesn't matter what line of work
you're in. I can assure you that the people you
knew all of those years at work, three percent will
be around when it's over. But I know who will
be around your family. They'll be there because they look
at you differently. You have a different role to them.
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Whatever you do, be it a pitcher, be it a
CEO of a company, be it a driver, be it
a teacher. Whatever it is, that's your job, so they
see you go to work whatever it is you do.
If you're Patrick Mahomes, your job is an NFL quarterback,
but that's not the person you are. So when it's done,
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you want to be around your family. And that's why
it's so difficult when guys are traded in the middle
of the year, because it completely uproots and just confuses
the kids and the family. It's hard. Sure, they're compensated, okay,
price of doing business. Yeah, yeah, you know, I got
to be traded, but I do make twelve million dollars
a year, so it's an inconvenience. Yeah, and good for him,
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I mean, and I say good, it's good and bad
because it's a scenario. I just put Brock has a
three year old I'm seeing and a sixteen month old.
So they're young kids that you know, school and the
abundance of friends that they've made is a little bit
different than taking a high school or middle school or
out of their situation. But again, it makes it even
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more difficult on his wife with those young kids, you know,
having to travel with those guys. Right, we're going across country. Now,
let's get the sixteen month old and the three year old.
I got to bring the strollers, right, gotta have strollers,
gotta have clothes a little kid. I remember, yeah, I
remember we had our twins were born, our oldest were born.
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I was playing in Philadelphia and they were born in October,
and you know, I flew out for their birth. You know,
there was a period of time they couldn't travel, but
when they could, Hollywood pack them up and jump on
a plane with the twins, and it was stressful and
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all she wanted to do was get the Philadelphia and
hand them both to me and say here you go.
I need a break. But thinking back and how stressful
that was, just packing up, getting to the airport, traveling
on a plane five hours from La to to Philadelphia
to get there and stay for a week because it
meant something to me to be with my family, you know,
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and it was it was stressful. So it is. It
is something that no one really talks about. It's like
you got traded. Like you said, you got traded, making
twelve million dollars a year. Go out and do your thing.
You have no Yeah, there's no life outside of Dodger
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loyalty dead in sports? Well apparently it's not in Los
Angeles and that's next.
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Come on, we keep it moving, Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan
on a sunny Tuesday in August, come on now, okay,
Dan Woike spoke with look at Donchet's manager manager, and
you know, before they had the opportunity to sign that extension,
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I said it. You believed it. The guy's not going anywhere.
He's signing, he's in LA. But for fodder and social
media conversation, you have to well listen, I've heard that
he may not. Well, he did, and he was going
to He's not leaving the Lakers for one hundred and
thirty six million dollars. He's going to be right here
and then he'll sign the Supermax and they've got their guy.
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But what his agent said or manager, there is a
loyalty and basically Luca is loyal to those who are
loyal to him. So Rob Polinka and the Lakers have
made a very good case about how he is the
future they are building around him. That and probably you know,
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over one hundred million dollars pretty much said they're loyal
to Luca, so Luca will be loyal to them. It's
a marriage, the manager said. And marriages go through ups
and downs, but at the end of the day they
know they love each other. Do you think there is
loyalty in sports, Rodney, And do you think Luka Doncage
was being loyal to the Lakers. There's there's loyal until
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there's not. Is that a good answer. There's no, there's
no blind loyalty. Put it that way, as we've there.
The simple answer is no, there's not loyalty in sports.
And if you're talking between player and franchise, player and team. Now,
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if that's the case, then he would have stayed with Dallas.
I'm sure at some point they thought he was going
to be a Maverick for life. He thought that. I'm
sure the Mavericks thought that when they drafted a young
kid out of Slovenia and said, listen, you're you're going
to be our face. And he was the face. So
there was a loyalty for the for them and for
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both of them for a period of time until there wasn't.
So yeah, at the end of the day, No, there's
no loyalty. Look at all the greats over the years
that have moved. Who ever thought that that the forty
nine ers would ever trade Joe Montana after them him
winning four Super Bowls for him when he could still play,
and they did that, you know. So the breakup with
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Tom Brady and they chose Belichick over Brady, I mean,
it's just there. There's really not loyalty anymore, but he
seems to say there is. He believes there is loyalty.
It is different. I think you're reading more into loyalty
in a sense that they believed in me, so I'm
gonna believe in them. They gave me a shot. They
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they are trying to make a long term play. Trust me.
If two years three years for his contract up, you know,
and he's got a chance to do the Super Max
or go somewhere else, and Lakers are not putting together
the team that he thought they were. Do you think
he's staying No? Okay, So, no loyalty is it is
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a present term, not a lifetime term, you know, presently, Yes,
I'm loyal right now, I'm loyal. You got to continue
to show me that you are doing the right things
both ways. Otherwise then we're gonna have to part ways.
Loyalty goes out the window. Dame Lollard was loyal in Portland.
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He was loyal. He wanted to be there until he didn't,
until he finally said I want to win, or at
least I want to shot at winning. There was probably
no more loyal guy in the NBA, I would think
than he was at that time. He openly said I
want to be here, but it also got to a
point where he wanted to win. So so what is that?
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Is that not loyalty? What is that? Just? Is that selfishness?
What is that? What do you call that? I call
it I want to win. I don't even call it selfish.
Is it loyal or not loyal? I mean loyalty? Then
what's the definition of loyal loyalty? We don't say anything
that about me. Loyal leave, I don't know. I mean that,
That's all it could be. You have the opportunity to
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move in pro sports. That's why it was so funny
that his manager used their loyalty. So is their loyal
in your opinion is their loyalty. No, not really. I
think you should be kind to everybody. You should understand
it's not what we're talking about. Freedwick. No, No, I'm
just saying I think you should do all of that.
But at the end of the day, the team is
always going to do what's best for the team. The
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club is going to do what's best for the club.
They're not going to keep you around if they don't
think you can perform right and up until recently, well
in the last ten fifteen years, did did people understand
that also the players got to do what's best for
the player, because it used to be held really against
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the player if he wanted to be traded or he
wanted to leave, or he didn't stay with the team.
And I wouldn't say fifteen about ten years that if
a player left or decided he was not going to
sign back with the team, he was dislowy, or he
was a trader, he was all those things. They're burning jerseys.
I mean it was they created that narrative that loyalty
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was only the club is always loyal and the players,
you know, they're wishy washing. So it's like a one
way street. The club can can find you, fire you,
cut you trade you at any time. But that's okay.
But if a player wants to leave, he's disloyal, he's
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being greedy, he is being a trader. So yeah, players
finally got even. The money got so great, so now
the players got power. So now it's even an out. Yeah. Yeah,
So Luca's loyal today and some of the Lakers, I
can assure you of this. Barring some unforeseen circumstance, the
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Lakers are going to do everything they can to make
him happy because that's the guy they're building around. That
is their future. And that brings us to this. Dave
McManamon reported, because we thought, well, when the Dodger guys
take over, Mark Walter gets in there and they start
looking at everything, and Jenny Buss will continue to be
the governor for a period of time, not lifetime, but
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a period of time to make her comfortable. Also in
a transitional mode, what happens to Rob Polinka? And I
think Kevin brought it up a couple of weeks ago.
What if Sam Presty of Oklahoma City suddenly became available
new ownership there. He wants to change of venue, he
wants to do things a little differently. They say, fine,
and he's available. Well, we know that guy knows what
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he's doing. We know he has a pretty good understanding
of how to build a successful franchise. What if he
became available, would you take a run at him? Well,
according to Dave McManamon, no, you wouldn't, because he is
of the belief that as long as Jeanie is there,
Rob Polenka will be there. As long as she remains governor,
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he will remain the GM true now that I think
that remains to be seen because the Lakers are business
and Mark Walter's style is not to come in and
take everybody out at the beginning. He lets everybody have
their say. He observes, he sees how the business operates.
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He goes Genie, goes Genie. He's right. As long as
Genie is quote the governor, she has that title. Polinka's
not going anywhere. And if they decide that Polinka's got
to go, then shortly after that, Genie's gonna be gone,
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because that's she's joined at the hip with them. Does
she have to be she is? Things you have to
be she is, But things change, No, they don't. He goes,
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she goes, she goes, he goes. Why couldn't she say
if they said he's done, because she would consider that
an affront. Yeah, she wouldn't. She wouldn't be. They've been
trying to get rid of him for forever and she
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is absolutely one d percent. You talking about loyalty, She's
loyal to him. You know, sometimes maybe you know early
on to a fault or whatever, but she's loyal to him.
And she apparently gave him his her word that he
would have this job and have control and all those things,
and and she's holding to that. Well. I can appreciate
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her loyalty. There's that word again. I can appreciate her loyalty,
but I can also say that this is a business,
and let's say things don't go as Mark Walter would like,
because just because she's the governor doesn't mean that Mark
Walter and the guys aren't gonna have anything to say
if things aren't going well. I got a feeling they're
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gonna weigh in, no doubt. No one's saying they're not.
But that doesn't mean Genie's gonna stay. But that would
be up to her. Yeah, maybe maybe, maybe, you know,
we don't know the deal. Maybe it was the deal
was Rob stays on as long as I'm here, it
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could be the deal. And at some point, you know,
you decide to let him go, then I'm gone to
And does that effect does that upset? Does that change
the way Mark Walter and the new group would think?
(31:04):
I don't know. I don't know. It depends on how
many You know, what are we talking about? Is this
next year or is this five years from now? You know,
if it's next year, I don't think they do anything.
If it's five years from now and they're watching this
and witnessing this, or I would say even it's probably
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three years from now when Luca's up to figure out
what direction they are going in and if it doesn't
look good, all bets are off. You think it'll take
that long? You think they'll give him that long? No,
I'm saying if he goes, Genie goes, right, and if
Genie goes, he's going the package deal right. But you're
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saying they might not come to that decision until we
find out what happens in the next three years when
Luca's up again. I'm saying, do you think it'll take
that long for them to come to some sort of decision.
Do you think they would try to do something prior
to that, Yeah, I think it will. I think they'll Yeah,
I think they'll play it out and see, you know,
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at least like nothing's gonna happen this year, but they'll
see how what transpires the following year, because the following
year is going to be the key, not this year
coming up, because the following year is Lebron may be
gone and they would have to figure out a new
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direction with Luca at the helm and what you're gonna
put around him, and Lebron either is here or is
not here. So after next year they'll have a decision
to make and kind of analyze. But yeah, I think
they give it a period of time to figure out
what they're going to do with him. Well, I would
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think this, but obviously it doesn't matter what I think
because we know what we read. I would think next
year is an evaluation year for Mark Walter and his team.
Let's look at the business, let's see how it operates.
Let's talk to people, because that's what they'll do. They'll
get to know everybody and just figure out how it operates.
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I think that's what this year will be then I
think the following year, when Lebron may not be here,
they may make some decisions. I think they'll give it
a year. I mean, because if Rob goes, Genie goes.
What if Mark Walter comes in and says, all right, well,
we'd like to hire three more analytics people, or we're
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going to change the way the sales staff operates for
any number of things. Does that mean Genie goes too.
If they come in and say we're gonna operate the
business differently, or we're gonna create some synergies with the Dodgers. Now, no,
that's what they do. So to put money in the
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front of that's what. Not to get too deep into it,
but that's what others wanted to do and complain about
with the Lakers that it still was a mom and
pop shop and more attention needed to be put towards
analytics and scouting and front office and more staff and
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that just wasn't the case. So yeah, that's that's what.
That's what the Dodgers do. And I don't don't don't
be mistaken. Before this was and the sale goes through
in November, so there's you know, obviously has to happen.
But it is that there was not these conversations had listen.
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You know, we're gonna sit back and evaluate you're gonna
be I don't know if they gave her a timetable
as long as how long she's gonna be governor. Do
you know that there may be three years or four
years or two years. We don't know unless you know
how long they they say, well, Jeanie will remain on
as governor for do we know that? We do not? Right?
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So maybe that was discussed internally, but they are too
many things have happened for and Roblink is still here
for them to come in and say Roblink is gone
in two years and Genie still be okay with that
and still be here. I have to tell you, I
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think once they come, once they come in and take over,
you thank the Boss family for everything they did. You
thank them, You thank them from the bottom of your
heart because they did make an impact and a difference
in this city. Do you think if that's the case
and they come in and it's time to make some moves,
then I think you make them. I think it'd be
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sad to see Genie go. I think, Genie, do you
think do you think it was a bad deal for
them to Again don't know how what the timeframe is
to let Jeannie remain as governor, say a bit. I
think that was a good thing, open ended. If it's
open ended, See, I think there's a timetable on it. Internally,
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I think there is. You're here, You're going to be
governor for the next whoever years?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
The report is five years at least the next five
years is kind of but that hasn't been confirmed obviously
by anybody. But that's the initial reports.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
But the question becomes, you are governor and what does
that mean? What does that mean? It means your governor,
You go to the meetings, you represent us, you're the governor,
got it, you vote all of that. But what else
does that mean? Does that mean as governor you can
veto us making a move with JJ Reddick? As governor,
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you can veto us making a move with Rob Polinka?
Or are you governor and will operate the business? What
does that mean? And see what I'm trying to what
do you think given what you know about Mark Walters,
Guggenheim guys and the and the Dodgers, what do you think?
(37:09):
I think you're see? But then the problem becomes I
think this your governor. We got it. You're governor and
quote name only, we're running things from here on out. Yeah,
you're representing us. You certainly haven't seen you're the face. Yep, yep.
But we're gonna be making the decisions. If we decide
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Tim Harris has to go and we're gonna bring one
of our guys in to operate the business or have
stand cast and do both, or whatever they plan on doing,
or nothing, then that's what we're gonna do. If you're
telling us that if we make a move in the
front office in the business office and take Tim Harris out,
I'm not saying they will or won't, but we decided
that because we're going to operate just like we do
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with the Dodgers. Are you leaving? Does being governor mean
all of the people that you hired remain in place
for five years? From from Rob Polinka to JJ Redditt
to Tim Harris to Kurt Rampus to Linda Rampis. Do
all those people have to stay in place for a
period of time? If you're a governor, you don't think
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she negotiated that. And the Bus family and how loyal
they've been and how loyal Genie is to her people
before this went through that she negotiated that for everybody,
everybody within the organization. Okay, total it comes down to
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how long.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, so I looked it up so sam Amy can
report it this that as terms of the sale was
that Genie bus would be governor for five years. Now,
the details into what exactly her role is as governor
and how much power she has, that's nebulous. But it
was written as a term of the sale that she
will be governor for at least five more seasons.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So it just becomes what does governor? What does it mean?
Right now? Ye know? What? What an authority? What power
does that mean? For five years? Nothing will change? And
in essence, Mark Walter and his group will be silent
partners if she governor. But they get free tickets now
because they own the team. I mean, is that what
it means? What do you think? I don't think it
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means that at all, quite frankly, I think they're gonna
do what they have to do. Yeah, And if you
say that, they don't make the playoffs next year and
Lebron ends up leaving and going to Dallas and they
got to scramble to find a team to put together
around Luca. You don't think they're going to come in
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and make some changes, or you do. I do think
they'll make changes. But I'm just saying, giving given what
you said, if he goes, she goes, what if one
of those changes is we're taking we're making a change
with Rob Polinka? Yeah, does she go or does she go? Well,
(39:59):
that that's unfortunate. Wow, And I'm saying that there was
probably just like she you know, Kevin just said she
will be governor for five years. I think she went
and made sure that there is a period of time
that Rob Polinka stays, whether it's two years, three years,
whatever it is, that there was a number that you
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can't come in and just get rid of him or
get rid of the staff right away. She's gonna protect
her staff, the people that have been around her for years.
What do you think, poison pill? Or you can take
them out, but it's gonna cost you X that kind
of thing. Could be, could be, could be? Or they
get three years? Yeah, like you said, poison pill and
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if it's before three years, then it's gonna cost you
a lot. And given those guys, it don't matter. They
put a number down, what's the number? Okay, if you're
dealing with those guys, always always right high, always go high, Yes,
because that's a good chance. I'm just gonna go find Yeah.
(41:07):
Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, maybe that's what it is.
I mean, business has to continue, and quite frankly, the
Lakers have to do their business differently. They have to
they have to add differently going forward. Yeah, it's it's
it's a new ball game nowadays, and you really do
you can't. I mean there's too much technology involved. You
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you can't. You can't operate and be successful with all
without all the pieces. I mean, that's the same thing.
That's what they did with the Dodgers. They went in
there and looked at the staff and looked what they
were working with and go, wow, we need one hundred
new people. Not not just new people, I'm saying, we
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need to add one hundred people to the staff. What
you have, you've basically been working with a skeleton staff.
You know, I'm not sure if we brought Ned Kelletti on,
he'd be like, you want to know what I had
to work with? And now look what these guys got
to work with. Are you kidding me? We should ask
him that next time. Yeah, He's like, come on, come on, Yeah,
(42:15):
it'll be night and day and may. You're absolutely right.
They got to operate differently. What would you do? You're
on the third team, you're looking down the fairway, you're
getting ready to hit the ball. You just glance to
(42:35):
your left and you see two people having sex. What
would you do?
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when's the last time you played golf? Oh? Wow, probably
a month and a half ago. Yeah, four round. I
mean I get to the driving range, but I don't
get to play as much to night like to. But yeah,
about a month and a half ago. Friend, about a
month and a half ago. Yeah, how'd you hit it? Yeah? Uh?
Surprisingly well for don't for not playing a whole lot.
(44:10):
You know sometimes when you don't play and you just
go out and play one round and you're like, oh, okay,
I could do this, and then you play another one
and you shoot one hundred and fifty. So yeah, I
shot I think it shot eighty five, So it was
okay for me. How was the day beautiful? Yeah? Out
at North Ranch. Yeah it was beautiful. Oh that is nice. Yeah, yeah,
(44:31):
it's beautiful. Got friends out there, sure? And how was
the course that day? Why join? When you got friends
at courses, you don't need to join? No, Yeah, it
was beautiful, beautiful manicure. They had just redone it I
think in uh in the fall, and so yeah, springtime
is it's beautiful out there? All right? So let's say
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you're on the fifth tee yep, and you're getting ready
to hit. You look to your left, yep, and down
on the cart path. You're not going to hit it,
by the way, you're not going to hit them. But
they're on the card path. You see the cart moving,
You think, what the hell's going on? You look a
little closer and there's two people having sex. And it's
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not a question, there's no, there's no question about it.
It's not like what am I seeing? Am I seeing this?
Riding them? Maybe the angles off? No, you're not. There
is no question on what they're doing. No, what you're
seeing five year old would know what they're doing. Right.
What you're seeing is a ride, but the cart's not moving. Interesting,
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that's what you're seeing. Thanks for the visual. What do
you do? By the way, By the way, are you
are you? So you're there on the cart path and
you're you just teed off and you're getting ready to
go past them? Are you riding towards them? You're getting
ready to hit and you look over to your right
and you see this happen they're on another hole or
(46:00):
somewhere on the course though, No, they're in the cart
path and probably they're coming up the other way, got
you right? But they're parked. They're parked, okay, And that
card is moving. And by the way, it's true when
you can look it up online because you can find
it if you'd like to see it. You know, do
you see the cart moving? Oh? Yeah, you'll see it.
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So the point is this, what do you do? I mean,
do you what do you do? Do you stare? Do
you scream? Do you wait? I mean, do you play through?
What do you do? Apparently you probably do what the
people that saw it did. They pulled out their phone
and videotaped it. Yeah, now you probably do that. Yeah, Fred,
(46:50):
I think it would be you would be lying to
us if you told me that you would not stop
and watch for a few seconds. Oh, I watch the video,
so I did stop. More on the course. If you're
on the course and you see it happen, you look
to your right, you'd have to, wouldn't you. You'd have
no choice. Yeah. Would you tell a Marshall? Nah? Just
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kids having fun? Fred? Would you applaud? Would you make noise?
And now if you're with your if you're with your
young kid or daughter, then maybe you say something. Hey,
you might wanna check whole nine. Uh, whatever your definition
of that extracurricular activity is going on on whole number nine,
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So you might want to check that out. But you know, otherwise,
it's who are they really bothering for it? How are
they disrupting your life? Not disrupting my life?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (47:50):
So would you call the marshall? No, I wouldn't. But
for example, if they were playing on a course in
the Coachella Valley in the Palm Springs area, and knowing
these people are seventy to eighty years old and they
witnessed something like that, well, first, if they witnessed something
like that, you would assume that those two people were
seventy or eighty years old. So I don't know if
they even survived. But let's say there were some younger
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people playing that day and they witnessed that. I guarantee
you they would tell anybody they could how disturbing and
disgusting that was. They would complain to whoever would listen.
I promise you they would. Yeah, would they complain on
the spot. Would they go try to find a martial, Yes,
(48:33):
tell them they would. They would go try to find
a marshal and telling them, yes they would, And then
the problem is though at their age, when they got
up to talk to the marshal, they can't remember what
they looked like. They forget may people saying what are
you talking about? She, you know, dropped their glasses and
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I was trying to look for a contact, and you know,
we just got disrupted for a minute, right, right, that's
what happened. I don't know what this old lady's talking about.
We're not having sex. You gotta have her eyes checked, Fry,
(49:17):
all right, we need to check in on Key k
Hernandez and find out how serious that injury is. So
Bill Plunkett, the OC Register SoCal Newsgroup will join us
next
All right, here we go, three hour show today, Fred Rogan,
Rodney Pete at a five seventy LA Sports Rodney, how
you doing. I'm doing good, Fred, I'm doing good. Yeah, yeah,
I see you do it. You got your smiley shirt on.
I got that's right. Although I'm frowning on the inside.
You might see a smile outside, but I'm frowning on
(00:21):
the inside, Rodney. Before the trade deadline, everybody talked about
the fact the Dodgers need a reliever, they need somebody
for the pen. All right, they went out and got somebody.
And last night, don't worry about that. That was not
a great outing. Don't don't give that a second thought,
because things happen, and we'll get more into that. Rock
Stewart struggled. But the thing I said, you said it
(00:43):
as well. You are on the record. Go get somebody
that can hit. Please, go get another stick. That's what
you need. You need someone that can hit. I know
the pitching will be okay. I am confident of that fact.
But my worry, my concern before the trade deadline and
now they need hitting. And last night was a perfect
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example of why they didn't hit. Again, they didn't hit. Yeah,
Freddie Homer. Okay, aside from that, they didn't hit, and
what if they scored three runs, and however many innings
it's been, it's awful they're not hitting, and poor Mookie.
(01:30):
Some people took David Vassay's advice and did give him
a standing ovation, and it was just the way it's
going for him. Summed it all up in the ninth inning.
That summed up where Mookie bets is. Right now, he
kind of chips one to right. Worst case it's foul.
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Best case it'll be fair. If it bounces, he might
even get a double out of it. And nowt Bar
comes out of no dies, slides and catches the ball.
That was a hit, albeit not a great one, but
it would have been a hit. And he couldn't even
get that. Somebody came flying in and took that away
from him. Yeah, it's either one or the other. Right.
(02:14):
A lot of times, like he's be honest, he's hit
some balls like really hard. In the series when they
were on the road in Cincinnati, hit a couple of
them really hard, especially won the center field that the
big kid caught that could have been a gap, a
double in the gap, but the guy chased it down
and reached up and caught it and you know, running
(02:36):
full speed, and then this one, you know, a little
chippy Either one of those, usually one of those is
falling for you. So when it's going bad, both of
them are not falling for you. And that is exactly
is what has happened in the Mookie because when he
does hit it hard, it's right at somebody. And when
you think you're gonna get a little chippy because you
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need those, everybody needs those during the course of a season.
He's a little bit of luck, a little bit of
Texas leaguers as they call them, you know, something that
bloops over the infield. And he's not getting any of those. No,
not one. And the Dogers aren't getting those either, No, no,
they're not. What makes it even glaring more right, because yeah,
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not only is Mookie struggling, but the team is struggling,
and so it just highlights Mookie even more that the
entire team is struggling and him, being the leader and
one of the best players on the team is struggling,
it just all focuses more on him. Yeah, and here's
the issue. The team is built so that if one
guy is struggling, the other eight will pick him up.
(03:40):
If two are struggling, the other seven got them. But
you never expected one of the guys struggling to be
Mookie ever. I mean, they talked about the fact that, man,
you know, we've kind of changed the batting order around
a little bit, and uh, you know, we let him
hit leadoff. Now he's hitting second again, you might get
to a point where Monkie's not going to be hitting
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that high in the order. I mean, just take it
all the good will and nobody says people don't love him,
but he's not hitting Now. How long? When was it?
How long was Freddy slump? Remember Freddy was getting in
a funk last year. He said it, we said it,
and maybe it was the start the season and then
we you know, found out he was dealing with his
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son and all the other things. But it was a
good two months that Freddy was maybe longer than that,
and we said it on a show that he just
doesn't look like he's having any fun. And he struggled
for a while, but eventually, you know, obviously got it
going and went crazy in the postseason. And maybe that's
the case, but right now, yeah, it's you know, again.
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His answers the other day was, I don't know what
else I can do. I've been doing everything, and maybe
that's it. Maybe he's doing too much, Maybe he's overthinking
it too much and trying to spend too many hours
in the cage and trying to fix it too much,
and just hey, I'm just gonna wake up, get to
the park and go play baseball. I'm not gonna do
anything extra. I'm just gonna go clear my mind and
(05:07):
go play, which I'm sure people have told him, and
I'm sure he's thought about. But it's hard for a
guy that's built a certain way, that prepares a certain way,
to try to change that up. But sometimes you got to, yeah,
well something's got to give here. And I know the
only thing you can really do is let him fight
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his way out of it, play his way out of it,
go out there right night. That's it. Just want to
come together. You said move down. I don't see him
moving down the lineup until if it gets to you know, September,
and you know the race is tight and we were,
you know, looking to figure out how we're going to
approach the postseason, then yeah, maybe, but the rest of
this month, I don't see him or them moving him
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down to seventh in the lineup. Well, he's got a hit, period,
he's got to hit Tyler Glass now looked good last night,
gave on up early, then settled in, really pitched well
enough to win that game. If he had anyone would
have won. To gain any kind of run support. He
wins that game. I mean, that's the thing too, Fred,
is that they have been because of the offense, They've
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wasted some really good outings by their pitchers. I mean,
they'll get me wrong, there's been some struggles. There's been
a lot of really good outings that they have wasted.
I can name by three or four for Yamamoto that
they've wasted where he's pitched him to the sixth or
seventh inning and got no run support. Glass now last
couple of times he's gotten no run support, which is
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which is very difficult. I mean, those guys, I know
they they think we're the Dodgers. So I hold him
to two runs, we're gonna win this game. I hold
them three, we're gonna win because I know our offense
is gonna score four above and that's just not the
case right now. No, he pitched well enough to win.
Rock Stewart came in struggle, just a fair statement, struggle.
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Dave Roberts says, he's going to give him the ball
a lot. Yeah, that's why they traded for him. Didn't
go his way last night. Struggled and that was it.
That was the ballgame. And here's the other thing, and
we talked about it in the past. Those guys aren't
having any fun right now. Dodgers aren't having fun. I'll
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tell you had fun last night. The Cardinals had fun
when they won that game. Afterwards, they were smile, laughing,
slapping each other because every game is a World Series
for the opponent, absolutely, and they were having a good time.
Dodgers thinks so much. Sonny cy Young Gray was fantastic
for the Dodgers. I mean he was. I mean, you
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seriously thought he was Cy Young or the second coming
to Roger Clemens. Mean, he was. He shut this offense down.
And you're right. They were excited as as any team
comes into Dodgers Stadium. It's one thing to beat the
Dodgers at your own home ballpark. You know, a lot
of teams are expected in a three or four game series.
They wouldn't get one we're gonna get one Dodgers. But
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when you come to Dodger Stadium and you see fifty
thousand out there and their Dodger fans are fanatics and
crazy and yelling and screaming, and you beat them and
at at their place, at at Dodger Stadium, Yeah, everybody
gets excited about that. That's a big win. That's like
winning two. Yeah, so I'll try again tonight. That's the
(08:22):
only way to look at it. And it's not about
the pitching. They've just got a hit. It's pure and simple.
They've got a hit. Did you hear if key K
maybe done for the year. I heard that. I heard that,
which is hopefully that's not going to be the case.
But man, that'd be that'd be bad because you know,
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we all know what he can do in the postseason.
He's mister clutching the postseason. He comes through. He can
play multiple positions. But if that is the case, Fred,
that is goes back to your point of needed to
get a bat, another another hitter, because you don't have
key K going you know forward, you aren't going to
need another guy. And I just hope that that that
(09:08):
that report is not you know, accurate, that he's going
to miss the rest of the season with that elbow.
Because he is a guy that is vital for Dodger's
success and has been vital for Dodger's success over the
last few years. Bill plunk It will be on the
show at one o'clock. We'll get the lights from him.
We'll talk to Bill about that. Let's talk about brock Stewart.
(09:31):
Interesting piece in the Times about being traded, and as
a guy that played, you can probably comment on this,
although I don't think you ever traded, not during this
you would have trade season, not during the season, right, Okay,
so you know, brock Stewart gets traded and Dodger fans
got excited. He's been here before. That's the arm Andrew
Friedman wanted. So in your mind you think, all right,
(09:52):
get on the plane and get here and get her
as quick as possible. And that's exactly what he did
about what you forget about. And it was great because
he talked about it because he's not a machine. He's
a human being. He's married with two young kids. Now
what all you care about? And it's his job get
here and pitch. Now what now? What does he do?
(10:16):
And he talked about his wife having to pack up
their two young kids, figure out a way to get
to Los Angeles get settled. He doesn't get two or
three days off to get them comfortable, to be there
for them. He's got to go to work every day.
And I think that's lost Rodney in the big picture,
(10:37):
if somebody's traded, really lost the family, the family element
and it and and it's obviously worse during during the
season and the off season. You can you know, you're
not playing, so you can help out. But during the season,
the unsung hero of anybody having a success is is
that wife at home. Basically, if you're you know you
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have kids, because you know, during the season, your focus
is on playing and you're on the road quite a bit.
So when you're on a road for a ten day
road trip, it is your wife back at home dealing
with the kids on a regular basis, taking them to school,
if they get sick, they got to take them to
the doctor, got to feed them, all those things without
any help. And it is extremely stressful. And when you
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get traded like he did in the middle of the season,
and you got to pick up and no, I'm not
going to Cleveland I'm going to Tampa to go meet
the Dodgers, and he says, oh, honey, we got to
move to la because I'm gonna be there now, So
you got to start packing up and packing up things
so we can, uh, you can meet me out there.
That is a huge job and a huge burden on
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your wife, who's got to do it basically on our own,
because you got to go pitch and you got to
go be with the team. It's it is, it's a
it's a thankless situation. And they need, you know, speaking
of the wives, need to get the credit that they
deserve because they really are the backbone that allow a
lot of these guys, basically the married ones with kids,
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the ability to clear their head and be able to
go out and perform at a high level. Look at
it like this, listening right now. You're married, you involved,
you have a partner, you have kids. Just imagine if
you're driving around right now, your phone rang. Let's say
you're a driver for one of our drivers. Let's say
for Ups Rodney Okay or Amazon FedEx, one of our drivers,
(12:31):
and many listen to the program. All Right, you're driving around,
you're married, you have kids, and you get off today
at five and the phone rings. You pick up the
phone and it's somebody from the corporate office and they say, listen,
you need to drive to Lax right now. You've been
transferred to Charlotte, so you need to get on a
(12:53):
plane and be driving tomorrow. Go to the airport right now.
What would you do when for you? Yeah, yeah, there's
a ticket. You get there. Your flight's at three. We've
got a hotel for you, and you'll be driving tomorrow
morning at eight am. What would you do well, you'd go,
oh gee, all right, you start driving to Lax, But
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then you have to call the person at home with
the kids. Hi, listen, I didn't expect this, but I've
just been transferred to Charlotte and I have to be
working tomorrow. No, I can't come home. I don't have
time to help you. I know we have three kids.
I don't know what you're supposed to tell them, but
I got to get to the airport. So you figure
out a way to get to the airport with the
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three kids. As soon as you can close the house
down here, bring enough stuff with you, fly into Charlotte.
Let me know when you get there, and I'll try
to have somebody pick you up and take you to
a hotel. But when you get there, because I'll be
working every day, then you have to find an apartment
or a house for us with the three kids who
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you just took out of school. How do you think
that would work? Yeah? Is that stressful at all? Extremely stressful?
And you better hope and you just hope and pray
that that call comes when or that time that happens
for you is when your kids are young, really young, right,
because imagine if it's a kid that's you got kids
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that are ten, twelve, and fourteen. You know they're in elementary,
middle school and starting high school, and you got to
pull them out of school and take them away from
their friends who they've built a relationship with and go
to a new city right away. That is extremely stressful
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because you know, kids don't care that you got to
pitch them all night. They love you, but they're mad
because I'm not going to see my buddies Jake and
Roman and Dave no more. I got to leave them
behind and I don't even really get to say goodbye. Oh.
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By the way, I had practice and I finally made
the team, and I finally made the starting lineup on
my middle school team. Oh now I got to move.
I mean, those are the things you got to go
through and think about. And granted there's a lot of
guys that make the decision. Okay, well we'll wait till
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the season's over, stay there, and then we'll figure it
out after the season. So when you got young kids
and a wife at home, that's dealing with young kids,
it's difficult, difficult, And again, as a player, you want
your family with you too, because that is that comfort
when you come home after a game, after a tough
one too, you want to be around family so you
can get away from it. Yeah. What people don't understand
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in any line of work, no matter how successful you are,
but whatever your chosen feel of endeavor is, no matter
how much success you achieve, you understand that's your job.
That's your work. But work ends every day at some
point or another. For some it's longer hours, some shorter.
But then work is over and then you go to
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where you go home. And who will you see at home?
Your family if you have one, if you're in a relationship,
maybe friends, But that's where you go. And when it's
all said and done and the game has passed you by.
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You've retired, and it doesn't matter what line of work
you're in. I can assure you that the people you
knew all of those years at work, three percent will
be around when it's over. But I know who will
be around your family. They'll be there because they look
at you differently. You have a different role to them.
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Whatever you do, be it a pitcher, be it a
CEO of a company, be it a driver, be it
a teacher. Whatever it is, that's your job, so they
see you go to work whatever it is you do.
If you're Patrick Mahomes, your job is an NFL quarterback,
but that's not the person you are. So when it's done,
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you want to be around your family. And that's why
it's so difficult when guys are traded in the middle
of the year, because it completely uproots and just confuses
the kids and the family. It's hard. Sure, they're compensated, okay,
price of doing business. Yeah, yeah, you know, I got
to be traded, but I do make twelve million dollars
a year, so it's an inconvenience. Yeah, and good for him,
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I mean, and I say good, it's good and bad
because it's a scenario. I just put Brock has a
three year old I'm seeing and a sixteen month old.
So they're young kids that you know, school and the
abundance of friends that they've made is a little bit
different than taking a high school or middle school or
out of their situation. But again, it makes it even
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more difficult on his wife with those young kids, you know,
having to travel with those guys. Right, we're going across country. Now,
let's get the sixteen month old and the three year old.
I got to bring the strollers, right, gotta have strollers,
gotta have clothes a little kid. I remember, yeah, I
remember we had our twins were born, our oldest were born.
(18:25):
I was playing in Philadelphia and they were born in October,
and you know, I flew out for their birth. You know,
there was a period of time they couldn't travel, but
when they could, Hollywood pack them up and jump on
a plane with the twins, and it was stressful and
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all she wanted to do was get the Philadelphia and
hand them both to me and say here you go.
I need a break. But thinking back and how stressful
that was, just packing up, getting to the airport, traveling
on a plane five hours from La to to Philadelphia
to get there and stay for a week because it
meant something to me to be with my family, you know,
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and it was it was stressful. So it is. It
is something that no one really talks about. It's like
you got traded. Like you said, you got traded, making
twelve million dollars a year. Go out and do your thing.
You have no Yeah, there's no life outside of Dodger
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loyalty dead in sports? Well apparently it's not in Los
Angeles and that's next.
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Come on, we keep it moving, Rodney Pete, Fred Rogan
on a sunny Tuesday in August, come on now, okay,
Dan Woike spoke with look at Donchet's manager manager, and
you know, before they had the opportunity to sign that extension,
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I said it. You believed it. The guy's not going anywhere.
He's signing, he's in LA. But for fodder and social
media conversation, you have to well listen, I've heard that
he may not. Well, he did, and he was going
to He's not leaving the Lakers for one hundred and
thirty six million dollars. He's going to be right here
and then he'll sign the Supermax and they've got their guy.
(21:10):
But what his agent said or manager, there is a
loyalty and basically Luca is loyal to those who are
loyal to him. So Rob Polinka and the Lakers have
made a very good case about how he is the
future they are building around him. That and probably you know,
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over one hundred million dollars pretty much said they're loyal
to Luca, so Luca will be loyal to them. It's
a marriage, the manager said. And marriages go through ups
and downs, but at the end of the day they
know they love each other. Do you think there is
loyalty in sports, Rodney, And do you think Luka Doncage
was being loyal to the Lakers. There's there's loyal until
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there's not. Is that a good answer. There's no, there's
no blind loyalty. Put it that way, as we've there.
The simple answer is no, there's not loyalty in sports.
And if you're talking between player and franchise, player and team. Now,
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if that's the case, then he would have stayed with Dallas.
I'm sure at some point they thought he was going
to be a Maverick for life. He thought that. I'm
sure the Mavericks thought that when they drafted a young
kid out of Slovenia and said, listen, you're you're going
to be our face. And he was the face. So
there was a loyalty for the for them and for
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both of them for a period of time until there wasn't.
So yeah, at the end of the day, No, there's
no loyalty. Look at all the greats over the years
that have moved. Who ever thought that that the forty
nine ers would ever trade Joe Montana after them him
winning four Super Bowls for him when he could still play,
and they did that, you know. So the breakup with
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Tom Brady and they chose Belichick over Brady, I mean,
it's just there. There's really not loyalty anymore, but he
seems to say there is. He believes there is loyalty.
It is different. I think you're reading more into loyalty
in a sense that they believed in me, so I'm
gonna believe in them. They gave me a shot. They
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they are trying to make a long term play. Trust me.
If two years three years for his contract up, you know,
and he's got a chance to do the Super Max
or go somewhere else, and Lakers are not putting together
the team that he thought they were. Do you think
he's staying No? Okay, So, no loyalty is it is
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a present term, not a lifetime term, you know, presently, Yes,
I'm loyal right now, I'm loyal. You got to continue
to show me that you are doing the right things
both ways. Otherwise then we're gonna have to part ways.
Loyalty goes out the window. Dame Lollard was loyal in Portland.
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He was loyal. He wanted to be there until he didn't,
until he finally said I want to win, or at
least I want to shot at winning. There was probably
no more loyal guy in the NBA, I would think
than he was at that time. He openly said I
want to be here, but it also got to a
point where he wanted to win. So so what is that?
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Is that not loyalty? What is that? Just? Is that selfishness?
What is that? What do you call that? I call
it I want to win. I don't even call it selfish.
Is it loyal or not loyal? I mean loyalty? Then
what's the definition of loyal loyalty? We don't say anything
that about me. Loyal leave, I don't know. I mean that,
That's all it could be. You have the opportunity to
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move in pro sports. That's why it was so funny
that his manager used their loyalty. So is their loyal
in your opinion is their loyalty. No, not really. I
think you should be kind to everybody. You should understand
it's not what we're talking about. Freedwick. No, No, I'm
just saying I think you should do all of that.
But at the end of the day, the team is
always going to do what's best for the team. The
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club is going to do what's best for the club.
They're not going to keep you around if they don't
think you can perform right and up until recently, well
in the last ten fifteen years, did did people understand
that also the players got to do what's best for
the player, because it used to be held really against
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the player if he wanted to be traded or he
wanted to leave, or he didn't stay with the team.
And I wouldn't say fifteen about ten years that if
a player left or decided he was not going to
sign back with the team, he was dislowy, or he
was a trader, he was all those things. They're burning jerseys.
I mean it was they created that narrative that loyalty
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was only the club is always loyal and the players,
you know, they're wishy washing. So it's like a one
way street. The club can can find you, fire you,
cut you trade you at any time. But that's okay.
But if a player wants to leave, he's disloyal, he's
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being greedy, he is being a trader. So yeah, players
finally got even. The money got so great, so now
the players got power. So now it's even an out. Yeah. Yeah,
So Luca's loyal today and some of the Lakers, I
can assure you of this. Barring some unforeseen circumstance, the
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Lakers are going to do everything they can to make
him happy because that's the guy they're building around. That
is their future. And that brings us to this. Dave
McManamon reported, because we thought, well, when the Dodger guys
take over, Mark Walter gets in there and they start
looking at everything, and Jenny Buss will continue to be
the governor for a period of time, not lifetime, but
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a period of time to make her comfortable. Also in
a transitional mode, what happens to Rob Polinka? And I
think Kevin brought it up a couple of weeks ago.
What if Sam Presty of Oklahoma City suddenly became available
new ownership there. He wants to change of venue, he
wants to do things a little differently. They say, fine,
and he's available. Well, we know that guy knows what
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he's doing. We know he has a pretty good understanding
of how to build a successful franchise. What if he
became available, would you take a run at him? Well,
according to Dave McManamon, no, you wouldn't, because he is
of the belief that as long as Jeanie is there,
Rob Polenka will be there. As long as she remains governor,
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he will remain the GM true now that I think
that remains to be seen because the Lakers are business
and Mark Walter's style is not to come in and
take everybody out at the beginning. He lets everybody have
their say. He observes, he sees how the business operates.
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He goes Genie, goes Genie. He's right. As long as
Genie is quote the governor, she has that title. Polinka's
not going anywhere. And if they decide that Polinka's got
to go, then shortly after that, Genie's gonna be gone,
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because that's she's joined at the hip with them. Does
she have to be she is? Things you have to
be she is, But things change, No, they don't. He goes,
(29:09):
she goes, she goes, he goes. Why couldn't she say
if they said he's done, because she would consider that
an affront. Yeah, she wouldn't. She wouldn't be. They've been
trying to get rid of him for forever and she
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is absolutely one d percent. You talking about loyalty, She's
loyal to him. You know, sometimes maybe you know early
on to a fault or whatever, but she's loyal to him.
And she apparently gave him his her word that he
would have this job and have control and all those things,
and and she's holding to that. Well. I can appreciate
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her loyalty. There's that word again. I can appreciate her loyalty,
but I can also say that this is a business,
and let's say things don't go as Mark Walter would like,
because just because she's the governor doesn't mean that Mark
Walter and the guys aren't gonna have anything to say
if things aren't going well. I got a feeling they're
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gonna weigh in, no doubt. No one's saying they're not.
But that doesn't mean Genie's gonna stay. But that would
be up to her. Yeah, maybe maybe, maybe, you know,
we don't know the deal. Maybe it was the deal
was Rob stays on as long as I'm here, it
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could be the deal. And at some point, you know,
you decide to let him go, then I'm gone to
And does that effect does that upset? Does that change
the way Mark Walter and the new group would think?
(31:04):
I don't know. I don't know. It depends on how
many You know, what are we talking about? Is this
next year or is this five years from now? You know,
if it's next year, I don't think they do anything.
If it's five years from now and they're watching this
and witnessing this, or I would say even it's probably
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three years from now when Luca's up to figure out
what direction they are going in and if it doesn't
look good, all bets are off. You think it'll take
that long? You think they'll give him that long? No,
I'm saying if he goes, Genie goes, right, and if
Genie goes, he's going the package deal right. But you're
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saying they might not come to that decision until we
find out what happens in the next three years when
Luca's up again. I'm saying, do you think it'll take
that long for them to come to some sort of decision.
Do you think they would try to do something prior
to that, Yeah, I think it will. I think they'll Yeah,
I think they'll play it out and see, you know,
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at least like nothing's gonna happen this year, but they'll
see how what transpires the following year, because the following
year is going to be the key, not this year
coming up, because the following year is Lebron may be
gone and they would have to figure out a new
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direction with Luca at the helm and what you're gonna
put around him, and Lebron either is here or is
not here. So after next year they'll have a decision
to make and kind of analyze. But yeah, I think
they give it a period of time to figure out
what they're going to do with him. Well, I would
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think this, but obviously it doesn't matter what I think
because we know what we read. I would think next
year is an evaluation year for Mark Walter and his team.
Let's look at the business, let's see how it operates.
Let's talk to people, because that's what they'll do. They'll
get to know everybody and just figure out how it operates.
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I think that's what this year will be then I
think the following year, when Lebron may not be here,
they may make some decisions. I think they'll give it
a year. I mean, because if Rob goes, Genie goes.
What if Mark Walter comes in and says, all right, well,
we'd like to hire three more analytics people, or we're
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going to change the way the sales staff operates for
any number of things. Does that mean Genie goes too.
If they come in and say we're gonna operate the
business differently, or we're gonna create some synergies with the Dodgers. Now, no,
that's what they do. So to put money in the
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front of that's what. Not to get too deep into it,
but that's what others wanted to do and complain about
with the Lakers that it still was a mom and
pop shop and more attention needed to be put towards
analytics and scouting and front office and more staff and
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that just wasn't the case. So yeah, that's that's what.
That's what the Dodgers do. And I don't don't don't
be mistaken. Before this was and the sale goes through
in November, so there's you know, obviously has to happen.
But it is that there was not these conversations had listen.
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You know, we're gonna sit back and evaluate you're gonna
be I don't know if they gave her a timetable
as long as how long she's gonna be governor. Do
you know that there may be three years or four
years or two years. We don't know unless you know
how long they they say, well, Jeanie will remain on
as governor for do we know that? We do not? Right?
(35:09):
So maybe that was discussed internally, but they are too
many things have happened for and Roblink is still here
for them to come in and say Roblink is gone
in two years and Genie still be okay with that
and still be here. I have to tell you, I
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think once they come, once they come in and take over,
you thank the Boss family for everything they did. You
thank them, You thank them from the bottom of your
heart because they did make an impact and a difference
in this city. Do you think if that's the case
and they come in and it's time to make some moves,
then I think you make them. I think it'd be
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sad to see Genie go. I think, Genie, do you
think do you think it was a bad deal for
them to Again don't know how what the timeframe is
to let Jeannie remain as governor, say a bit. I
think that was a good thing, open ended. If it's
open ended, See, I think there's a timetable on it. Internally,
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I think there is. You're here, You're going to be
governor for the next whoever years?
Speaker 3 (36:19):
The report is five years at least the next five
years is kind of but that hasn't been confirmed obviously
by anybody. But that's the initial reports.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
But the question becomes, you are governor and what does
that mean? What does that mean? It means your governor,
You go to the meetings, you represent us, you're the governor,
got it, you vote all of that. But what else
does that mean? Does that mean as governor you can
veto us making a move with JJ Reddick? As governor,
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you can veto us making a move with Rob Polinka?
Or are you governor and will operate the business? What
does that mean? And see what I'm trying to what
do you think given what you know about Mark Walters,
Guggenheim guys and the and the Dodgers, what do you think?
(37:09):
I think you're see? But then the problem becomes I
think this your governor. We got it. You're governor and
quote name only, we're running things from here on out. Yeah,
you're representing us. You certainly haven't seen you're the face. Yep, yep.
But we're gonna be making the decisions. If we decide
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Tim Harris has to go and we're gonna bring one
of our guys in to operate the business or have
stand cast and do both, or whatever they plan on doing,
or nothing, then that's what we're gonna do. If you're
telling us that if we make a move in the
front office in the business office and take Tim Harris out,
I'm not saying they will or won't, but we decided
that because we're going to operate just like we do
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with the Dodgers. Are you leaving? Does being governor mean
all of the people that you hired remain in place
for five years? From from Rob Polinka to JJ Redditt
to Tim Harris to Kurt Rampus to Linda Rampis. Do
all those people have to stay in place for a
period of time? If you're a governor, you don't think
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she negotiated that. And the Bus family and how loyal
they've been and how loyal Genie is to her people
before this went through that she negotiated that for everybody,
everybody within the organization. Okay, total it comes down to
(38:31):
how long.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Well, so I looked it up so sam Amy can
report it this that as terms of the sale was
that Genie bus would be governor for five years. Now,
the details into what exactly her role is as governor
and how much power she has, that's nebulous. But it
was written as a term of the sale that she
will be governor for at least five more seasons.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So it just becomes what does governor? What does it mean?
Right now? Ye know? What? What an authority? What power
does that mean? For five years? Nothing will change? And
in essence, Mark Walter and his group will be silent
partners if she governor. But they get free tickets now
because they own the team. I mean, is that what
it means? What do you think? I don't think it
(39:13):
means that at all, quite frankly, I think they're gonna
do what they have to do. Yeah, And if you
say that, they don't make the playoffs next year and
Lebron ends up leaving and going to Dallas and they
got to scramble to find a team to put together
around Luca. You don't think they're going to come in
(39:38):
and make some changes, or you do. I do think
they'll make changes. But I'm just saying, giving given what
you said, if he goes, she goes, what if one
of those changes is we're taking we're making a change
with Rob Polinka? Yeah, does she go or does she go? Well,
(39:59):
that that's unfortunate. Wow, And I'm saying that there was
probably just like she you know, Kevin just said she
will be governor for five years. I think she went
and made sure that there is a period of time
that Rob Polinka stays, whether it's two years, three years,
whatever it is, that there was a number that you
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can't come in and just get rid of him or
get rid of the staff right away. She's gonna protect
her staff, the people that have been around her for years.
What do you think, poison pill? Or you can take
them out, but it's gonna cost you X that kind
of thing. Could be, could be, could be? Or they
get three years? Yeah, like you said, poison pill and
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if it's before three years, then it's gonna cost you
a lot. And given those guys, it don't matter. They
put a number down, what's the number? Okay, if you're
dealing with those guys, always always right high, always go high, Yes,
because that's a good chance. I'm just gonna go find Yeah.
(41:07):
Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, maybe that's what it is.
I mean, business has to continue, and quite frankly, the
Lakers have to do their business differently. They have to
they have to add differently going forward. Yeah, it's it's
it's a new ball game nowadays, and you really do
you can't. I mean there's too much technology involved. You
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you can't. You can't operate and be successful with all
without all the pieces. I mean, that's the same thing.
That's what they did with the Dodgers. They went in
there and looked at the staff and looked what they
were working with and go, wow, we need one hundred
new people. Not not just new people, I'm saying, we
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need to add one hundred people to the staff. What
you have, you've basically been working with a skeleton staff.
You know, I'm not sure if we brought Ned Kelletti on,
he'd be like, you want to know what I had
to work with? And now look what these guys got
to work with. Are you kidding me? We should ask
him that next time. Yeah, He's like, come on, come on, Yeah,
(42:15):
it'll be night and day and may. You're absolutely right.
They got to operate differently. What would you do? You're
on the third team, you're looking down the fairway, you're
getting ready to hit the ball. You just glance to
(42:35):
your left and you see two people having sex. What
would you do?
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Today's Afternoon is this right here? By Sierra. This song
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the type of collaboration I always dreamt of being together
with my hometown friends on this record means so much
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Is this right here by Sierra featuring Lotto? All right, Rodney,
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when's the last time you played golf? Oh? Wow, probably
a month and a half ago. Yeah, four round. I
mean I get to the driving range, but I don't
get to play as much to night like to. But yeah,
about a month and a half ago. Friend, about a
month and a half ago. Yeah, how'd you hit it? Yeah? Uh?
Surprisingly well for don't for not playing a whole lot.
(44:10):
You know sometimes when you don't play and you just
go out and play one round and you're like, oh, okay,
I could do this, and then you play another one
and you shoot one hundred and fifty. So yeah, I
shot I think it shot eighty five, So it was
okay for me. How was the day beautiful? Yeah? Out
at North Ranch. Yeah it was beautiful. Oh that is nice. Yeah, yeah,
(44:31):
it's beautiful. Got friends out there, sure? And how was
the course that day? Why join? When you got friends
at courses, you don't need to join? No, Yeah, it
was beautiful, beautiful manicure. They had just redone it I
think in uh in the fall, and so yeah, springtime
is it's beautiful out there? All right? So let's say
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you're on the fifth tee yep, and you're getting ready
to hit. You look to your left, yep, and down
on the cart path. You're not going to hit it,
by the way, you're not going to hit them. But
they're on the card path. You see the cart moving,
You think, what the hell's going on? You look a
little closer and there's two people having sex. And it's
(45:17):
not a question, there's no, there's no question about it.
It's not like what am I seeing? Am I seeing this?
Riding them? Maybe the angles off? No, you're not. There
is no question on what they're doing. No, what you're
seeing five year old would know what they're doing. Right.
What you're seeing is a ride, but the cart's not moving. Interesting,
(45:40):
that's what you're seeing. Thanks for the visual. What do
you do? By the way, By the way, are you
are you? So you're there on the cart path and
you're you just teed off and you're getting ready to
go past them? Are you riding towards them? You're getting
ready to hit and you look over to your right
and you see this happen they're on another hole or
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somewhere on the course though, No, they're in the cart
path and probably they're coming up the other way, got
you right? But they're parked. They're parked, okay, And that
card is moving. And by the way, it's true when
you can look it up online because you can find
it if you'd like to see it. You know, do
you see the cart moving? Oh? Yeah, you'll see it.
(46:23):
So the point is this, what do you do? I mean,
do you what do you do? Do you stare? Do
you scream? Do you wait? I mean, do you play through?
What do you do? Apparently you probably do what the
people that saw it did. They pulled out their phone
and videotaped it. Yeah, now you probably do that. Yeah, Fred,
(46:50):
I think it would be you would be lying to
us if you told me that you would not stop
and watch for a few seconds. Oh, I watch the video,
so I did stop. More on the course. If you're
on the course and you see it happen, you look
to your right, you'd have to, wouldn't you. You'd have
no choice. Yeah. Would you tell a Marshall? Nah? Just
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kids having fun? Fred? Would you applaud? Would you make noise?
And now if you're with your if you're with your
young kid or daughter, then maybe you say something. Hey,
you might wanna check whole nine. Uh, whatever your definition
of that extracurricular activity is going on on whole number nine,
(47:36):
So you might want to check that out. But you know, otherwise,
it's who are they really bothering for it? How are
they disrupting your life? Not disrupting my life?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (47:50):
So would you call the marshall? No, I wouldn't. But
for example, if they were playing on a course in
the Coachella Valley in the Palm Springs area, and knowing
these people are seventy to eighty years old and they
witnessed something like that, well, first, if they witnessed something
like that, you would assume that those two people were
seventy or eighty years old. So I don't know if
they even survived. But let's say there were some younger
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people playing that day and they witnessed that. I guarantee
you they would tell anybody they could how disturbing and
disgusting that was. They would complain to whoever would listen.
I promise you they would. Yeah, would they complain on
the spot. Would they go try to find a martial, Yes,
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tell them they would. They would go try to find
a marshal and telling them, yes they would, And then
the problem is though at their age, when they got
up to talk to the marshal, they can't remember what
they looked like. They forget may people saying what are
you talking about? She, you know, dropped their glasses and
(48:55):
I was trying to look for a contact, and you know,
we just got disrupted for a minute, right, right, that's
what happened. I don't know what this old lady's talking about.
We're not having sex. You gotta have her eyes checked, Fry,
(49:17):
all right, we need to check in on Key k
Hernandez and find out how serious that injury is. So
Bill Plunkett, the OC Register SoCal Newsgroup will join us
next
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