9/5 H1: Football Thursday with ED

Roggin and Rodney with Eric Dickerson in for a football Thursday special before opening kickoff tonight. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we got a new open this year. Pretty cool,
you got a new open went fall around NFL Spotlight,
right right, Yeah. You know what I'm surprised about though, Eric,
giving our stint at Spotlight twenty nine last year, I'm
surprised this just isn't called the Eric Dickerson Show.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hey, they look good.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
That that's still that's still sticking to my calle.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
You know you're not over there? Fred is still Hey, hey,
hey Rodney, Fred. Fred when out there and got a
free meal and a bunch of last and he's still complaining.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, I got a bunch of la. We're not gonna
go into what happened.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
He is not.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
You know that was bad, Eric. When we walked out
there and the sign said to Eric Dickerson Show, and
I thought to myself, I'm in the wrong place. We
were not even doing our show here today.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well you know, well you know you somewhere with me.
So what are you mad? What you're mad about? A mad?
Hey Rodney, see a see Ridney. You're not mad, but
you see the main and his man. The man is man.
You know the man be on you. He didn't get
it just to you know, you know how a man
is what's that? Friend? What's up right now? You guys doing?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Man, We're good, are good? Excited to start another year.
So how's it been for you? How's your off season been?
What trouble did you get into?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Why I got to trouble? You know, you don't read
about hearing the paper nothing. I don't be doing. I'm
my home body, but I true. Yeah, I've had a
great off season. My daughter graduated from high school. Carry
did I'm proud of her. She's going to Ridney. Yes,

(01:40):
come my school in the USC, the US going to
USC at the same time. Fred Eric, Yeah, yeah, and
Eric going to us C. Yeah. Only only problem is
Fred his kids probably going there for free. I got
to pass. I wish that were the case.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
But somebody a few years ago kind of messed that
up for everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Me up, That is so true.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Oh yeah, you don't have to get into it, but yeah, yeah,
a couple of folks messed it up for everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah. I know the feel about messing up everybody. You
know from one of them schools too.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, Eric, you do know that.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Did you see?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
By the way, they're about to pass this law just
since you guys brought that up that legacy admissions are
not going to be considered any longer. Now if you
do it well, then mistaken withhold funds from you, that
that's how they're going to play the game. I got
to tell you something. I got to tell you. Maybe
you guys look at it differently. And my kids have
all graduated college. And by the way, I paid full

(02:54):
freight everywhere, so you know, I don't I don't have
a dog in the fight. You don't empathize with it.
But oh no, here's what I'm saying. Eric, here's what
I'm saying. If you if your parents went to a school,
or you went to a school, and you were a
donor to the school, and you made a difference at
the school, and then your kids can go to the school.

(03:17):
I got to tell you something. I think if you
have done all of that, the legacy should carry over
and they should be given more consideration to get into
the school. I just feel that way, and.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
It comes, and you know, giving back comes in many
different ways, you know, for for Eric and I, you know,
you you think about you know, you think about SMU
in those days playing on TV, playing on Bowl games,
all the money that was generated because the teams were
good and he was the focal point of that team.
I think about all the all the weekends that we

(03:53):
played on TV and all the money that was generated.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
We would it with three Rose Bulls too.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
And at the end, you remember this for Rose Bowl
paid out the most of all the Bowl games. So
if you got to the Rose Bowl, you got this
school got a lot of money. So to eliminate that
legacy thing. And even if you're a doctor, a lawyer,
and you you you know you've kind of graduated from
that school, and you you're a family that has donated
back to the school, you're telling me that you can't

(04:21):
you can't get your grandkid in or your your son
or daughter doesn't have an advantage to get into that
school that you've been contributing it. So, so where does
the donor pool goal? Is that going to go away now?
And people are gonna go, wait a minute. If I
can't get my grand I can't get my grandkids into school.
And I've given this school over millions and millions of dollars.

(04:41):
You telling me because and I went.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
There, Fred, Fred, do do me a favor, Yes, explain
the legacy program to the audience. So then we're talking
about so.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Bottom line is this the way it's always working? And Rodney,
pretty funny a couple of seconds ago when you said
that the way it works is like this, and it
can be any where. If you've gone to a school,
whoever you are, and whatever school you've gone to, and
you have contributed to that school, perhaps you've donated to
the building fund, perhaps you sponsored a building, perhaps you've

(05:12):
donated to the athletic department, and you've done it for
a period of time. Then you have kids, right, and
it would make you feel good if your son or
daughter went to the same school you did. And you
have to believe in the back of your mind you
got a little bit of an inn here because you
have been contributing to the school for so many years.

(05:34):
So in the past, if Rodney's kids wanted to go
to USC and Rodney had contributed to the school, and
that's Rodney's choice, by the way, or Eric your choice
to SMU. If your kids wanted to go to school
there and they applied, they would check the box legacy
and when it said legacy, that would tell the admissions

(05:55):
people to look a little further into this. Oh my God,
this is Eric Dickerson's daughter. I didn't realize that Eric
had donated ten million dollars to the football program.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So if they're so, if they're real quick on that one,
fat So if if there are, you know, they're looking
at fifty kids right right, and and they're all say
they're all three point two students coming out of high
school and do the same things. You know that legacy
check mark is going to put them ahead of the
kids that don't have a legacy check marks, all things

(06:25):
being equal, right, is going to go to the legacy kids.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's exactly right. Yeah, they're not going to take the
legacy kid if the legacy kid has a one point
a GPA, correct that that's not going to happen, right,
But if it's close, they're going to err on the
side of the kid whose parents were really involved in university.
What this new law is saying that no longer exists.
You can't base anything on that. If you have a

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thousand kids apply and of those thousand and five hundred legacies,
it means nothing. It means nothing, it doesn't exist. Everybody
is in on their own merit, and if it's close,
then the school will decide nothing can put them over
the top. That's what the legacy programs.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
So there's no legacy box to check anymore, that's right, Yeah, okay, okay,
problem with that, that's the thing is, okay, no box
to check.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
A couple of people. I mean, if you know, if
I know, like riding, you know, writing in the peace
name of the USC, So I'm gonna know if this
is Ridney's daughter or something known by name? Yeah for sure.
Well maybe the people in the administration office may not
know them by name, but somebody to the school not that. Okay,
all right, that's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
The problem the problem came in, you know, as I
you know, made a joke about. But the problem came
in was what Fred just said was that they started
letting in kids that did have a one point eight
over the kid that had a four point zero because
he was a legacy. So it wasn't all things being equal,
and the level playing field was like, well, let's get

(07:57):
let's get this kid in because he's a legacy. I
don't it doesn't matter what a g P, a AD
or or and this particular case, let's put him on
the rowing team or put him on some team and
get it in through a partial scholarship or something like that.
And so the rules got they got the lines got
blurred because people took advantage of the system, which is

(08:17):
probably why this this came about. But I can't imagine
for you got it. You got you know all these schools. Grandfather,
great grandfather went there, the grandfather went there, the father
went there, the mother went there, all that, And now
you're gonna tell me, Mike, my kid can't go there.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I don't think. I don't think that's gonna work. I mean,
I don't care, you know what they say. But I mean,
you know, you know what I was saying, Rogen Fritz,
you know it too is not what you know, it's
who you know. You know. It's like if I'm the
dean of the school, I run the school and trade
your your son wants to come to my university and
I know you you think you're not coming, right? Yeah,
you coming coming? That's the thing, right, right? How do

(08:54):
you how you gonna police it?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
It comes down to the school, right, Because if it
comes down to the school, at the end of the day,
there's no box to take. But they're just there's a
way you're gonna find out he.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Is, make it, make it, make a few calls. That's my.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
That's Eric's nephew, as eric nephew. Okay, we're gonna find
a way to get him in it. It's gonna happen.
So they can do all the lull and changes and
all that stuff. There's always gonna be again, as we say,
there's always a guy.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
There's always a guy. It's always a guy.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
And I know a guy. And the other thing they
we're doing is, you know, you'd meet with the admissions
people or whoever you would meet with and it was close.
Let's say it was tight, and you're having that conversation.
You know, somebody might say the admissions people, you know,
what can I what kind of contribution can I make
right now?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
I'll give you one hundred grand toward the athletic program.
I mean, just sitting there all right, you know what,
what's it gonna take? Yeah, what's it gonna take? I
give it? You know, and people that have that money.
I never did, but people, you know, I'll give you
two hundred fifty thousand dollars right now, and we'll put
it toward the music program. My daughter wants to be
in music, and uh, I know it's close, right, So

(10:10):
you know what, here's a check for two fifty to the.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
New league and or or by the way, and you
know he he knows what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Uh, I'm gonna get a recommendation from a friend of
mine who's a big time player at this particular spot
right who gives annually multi million dollars.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
To the school.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Okay, so you're not going to go on his recommendation
or her recommendation.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
So now that that ten million that you used to get,
now that's gonna be cut in half.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
One gonna get to zero to zero, we cut to zero.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
You want to play that game, Okay, it's gonna be
cut to zero now.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
So I don't know, you know what happened now right
now it is an administration era. We'll get that. I
don't know what. I don't know what happened. Yeah, I
mean day, let's be real, right.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
They can make the law and they can change and
they can do all that stuff, and there's no boxes
anymore to check. But there's always going to be and
it always has since the beginning of time, been away
for someone to get.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
And what see the problem became, people were complaining and saying,
it's not a fair playing field here. I don't have
an opportunity life. Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And and
you know, for public schools, fine, I get it. For
private schools, private school should be able to do whatever
they want exactly. Yeah, you know the reason they private

(11:45):
that's the reason. We'll make our own rules. And if
you don't want to play, you don't have to play.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I'm not taking I can do it. Yeah, I'll give you.
I'll give you an example. Okay, my daughter got she
she didn't get into to the art program that that
s m U was she really wants. She wanted to
be in the art program. She got denied, and I
was pissed. I mean I was really mad. I can't lie.
I was mad. But she got into the university and said,

(12:12):
you know, the university. But I didn't care about that.
She didn't get into the art program. And she didn't
get the art program because first of all, it said
that they don't do the kind of art that she does.
You know, we don't have like she wants to do,
toy making. She wants to do. She has her own
little business, you know, right now, she has her own business,
and so that was one of the problems there. And
like I said, that's my school and I was mad

(12:32):
about it, and they called me trying to you know,
smooth it over. But in the big scheme of thing,
they did me a favor because the school she really
wanted to go to, program she wanted to go to
was the Roski School of Art at USC and they
accepted her there and because they liked what she did.
She you know, they liked her. She has a business
at at eighteen years old. They like to all our art.

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She wants to do toy making. So it was a plus.
Even though that we got rejected for metals art, we
got in the Rosky School of Art and it's really
really difficult Rodney to get into the Rosky School of Art.
And I'm really happy. She was really really pleased. So
you know, in a sense, I got to say my
schooling sense did me a favor and sometimes that happened.
But you know, was I mad? Oh, I was pissed off.

(13:15):
I was really mad about it, you know, yeah, because
she had what.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
You should be and well you should be and like
you said, it wasn't like she wasn't qualified. It wasn't
like she couldn't handle it, like she didn't deserve it.
You know, you weren't trying to get somebody in that
was just off the street.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Oh no, yeah, they don't.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
They don't take a spot over some of the other
kids that. No, she was absolutely qualified for it. And
you're telling me even with that, you're not gonna you're
not gonna accept it.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Now get in. So so that goes to show because
you can always have one person for it, you know
how it is. And this guy I won't say his name,
but I told him I will always remember his name
and any time I go there, I will tell him
you did me a favor. But most definitely, you know,
it's always that person that can block block you, I mean,
or get you in either way, work you can work
out the way.

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All right.

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(14:44):
we'll talk about the Dodgers next. Not a lot to
say after last night, but we'll talk about.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oh, yes, it is the what do we call it?

Speaker 3 (15:00):
NFL Spotlight on a Thursday especial Thursday edition Rodney Pete,
Fred Rogan in the Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Did I get that right, Fred? You gotta correct me.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
No, you got it right? And uh and also you
know the uh the program. Our shows have had many
incarnations of names if you remember, yes, yes, Yeah, it's
gone through a number of changes over the years since
Eric has been joining us. All right, so, uh, look
for the Dodgers. I think things have gone really well.

(15:32):
Last night did not go well. Bobby Miller was just torched. Yeah,
you could pretty much call. Then he settled down, then
he was okay, then he got was done. Yeah, the
damage was already done, but then he got damaged a
little more and that was the end of it. Kind
of an aberration for the way the Dodgers have been
playing again. Dave Roberts took guys out of the game early. Yeah,

(15:55):
you know, and that seems to be frustrating some Dodger fans.
For example, if you drove down to Anahem last night
and you wanted to see the Dodgers when he saw
poor representation, but nonetheless you were there, and uh when
he yanks guys out early. I mean, who doesn't love
Andy pie has But that's not what they're paying to see.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but they you know, they gave
the fans what they needed the night before, you know,
with the dramatic extra innings. You know, they walk O
Tany and Mookie hits the home run, right, so they
gave him what they wanted. And at this point in September,
you can't play for the fans. You know, they gave
God out of hand right away. You can't play for

(16:33):
the fans. You got to play for your health and
and and making sure guys are healthy. I mean they're
down eight to one, you know early in that ball game.
Do you want a guy? You know, you think their
Dodger fans are mad. Now imagine if one of their
stars got hurt when the game is out of hand
like it is. I guescaus he left them in where

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somebody got hit on the hand and then that bat
because the dog down nine nine runs in the in
the fifth inning, and why is he still in the game.
That's what we would have heard. So as a manager, yeah,
you got it right now, especially now that it's September.
You are gearing up and playing for the playoffs in
October to hit, so you got to you gotta your
mindset's got to be all on that be Damn the

(17:18):
folks that drove down to four five or the five
to get down to Anaheim to see that game.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, and that's the big thing. I mean, like, I
think the Dodgers want They won a hundred games last year,
what six they won one hundred games the year before, yep,
but they but then got to the playoffs, it was
all over it. I mean it was like it's two
different teams. So I think as a fan, you want
them to be you want to It's like football. You
may start off, you may start off hot, start off
really hot, and then all of a sudden you kind

(17:45):
of look at Kansas City, Can't City Chiefs prime example,
last year they start off with a loss, and they
were kind of whole, hum, they gonna make the playoffs?
Are they gonna do this? See, they're gonna do that.
And all of a sudden they got hot. They got hot,
and baseball is the same. When you want to get
hot at the end of the season. You want to
get hot going into the playoffs. It's great to win
in football's great to win, be fifteen and two or whatever,

(18:05):
but gett knocked off in the second round of the
first round. The same thing in baseball. You know, you
want to go in. You want to go in the playoffs,
even if you win eighty games. But if you're going hot,
that's the big thing, is going in hot. You know.
The Dodgers, to me, they've been kind of they kind
of been up and down. And Bobby Miller, boy, he
got like you said, he got toys. It would look up.
He was it was five oz before you knew it. Yeah,
bling of an eye, yeah, first any it was that.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
And I don't know, you know, it's getting to that
because we said this, you know a few weeks ago
when they came back, both him and Walker Buhler came back.
It's gonna take some time. They got to keep trotting
him out there. You know, you don't just for Walker
Butler's sake. You know, you don't just be off of
baseball for almost two years and then come back and
have the same form you had before you got hurt.

(18:46):
And then Bobby Miller, you know, getting hurt earlier this
season and expecting him to come right back.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
That was a few weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
But now we're in September where you start to think about, Okay,
what's your rotation gonna look like come October? And right now,
I mean, I don't know how much they used Bobby
Miller based on last night's performance, I don't know where
he fits in.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Fred Well, that's a good question. Where does he fit in?
And I think what you'll see now is to go
a little further down the road. Yeah, Momoto's back next week,
So he's back next week. We'll see.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
But again, like we're talking about Buehler and and Bob,
he's been out, he's been out, but held have month.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
No, you don't know what he's gonna do. I agree,
I agree, But here's the thing, Bobby Miller, if he
has outings like that, then you have to look at
a playoff roster and say, all right, yeah, he's probably
not gonna start okay, because we can't send him out
to have that happen. Although he did settle down, so
they'll give me another look.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
But you can't be out of the game in the
first night.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
You can't. No, No, you're right, I agree, But I'm saying,
so what if in the next one he goes out
and he didn't have those problems in the first inning.
You're one hundred percent right. But but here's the thing.
If they don't have belief that he can do what
they need him to do, I don't see him coming
out of the bullpen. I don't see him on the

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playoff roster. Because that's really what we're looking at now.
I mean, we still don't know about Bueller. Better better
give him that, but not Green Kershaw's got a bone
spur on his toell of a sudden, we don't know
about that. Yamamoto will be back next week. We don't
know what will happen. Because, let's be honest, his OKAYC

(20:32):
performances were okay, not sparkling. Yeah, he was okay, So
let's see what he looks like when he gets back.
I think that's the issue here, you know. And last
night Griffin Canning looked pretty good. Patrick O'Neill told us
yesterday Griffin Cannon would have a good game. He was right.

(20:53):
But they didn't hit, you know, and that you can't
have in the playoffs either, you because in the playoffs,
as we know, oh, you can't come out have two
great games and going to the into the dumpster for three.
You got to hit every game and they couldn't hit.
Last night they ran into one guy. It was pretty
hot last year either in the playoffs. Yeah, oh god,

(21:13):
well yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
They couldn't hit. I mean during the season they were hot,
all the Dodgs, the killer that they hitting. Like I said,
wait to the playoffs. I got to see what happen
in the playoffs. See that's the thing. Eric.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Okay, and when you played Ridney, you as well, Let's
say you had a hell of a regular season, Eric,
were you on a team that had a hell of
a regular season?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, okay, good.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
You went to the playoffs, right, yeah, every gift the ram, right,
and you got got knocked out of the playoffs fair.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Right at first at home one time in the first round.
We should have won, all.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Right, So what do you remember, boy, we had a
hell of a year, or we got knocked out in
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
We got knocked out in the playoffs. I remember that game.
We got knock out in the playoffs. We got in
the gold line and I didn't get the football once. Oh,
and we end up and we ended up losing, I
think by three points. And we rather the end of
the game, and uh, I come to the sideline. Guy said, man,
where did you get the ball? I said, I don't know.
And then the press conference, John Roberts, you know, he said,
that's most coaches always do. We were trying to fool

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them instead of doing what we do that we do.
That's what happened. In football. They want to try to
fool you. Now baseball, I don't know, but football they
wan't try to fool you.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, they we got to go away from our tendencies
because they are expecting this. They're gonna expecting ed to
get the ball. So we're gonna try Seattle Seahawks, Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Prime Exam, Prime Exam, Prime exam, that same thing. I'm
sure that's the same thing. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I don't know how you worry ed, but I'm sure
you looked at that and go, I remember that same
kind of situation.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
They didn't give me the ball. I did when I
saw it. When I saw that game, I said, don't
throw it. I said it out loud. Don't throw it
at what they do? Throw it?

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah, pick it and on first down down I know, man,
I mean, turn to the beast. Give it to the
beast twice and if he can't get a yard, they
can't get it. But don't don't do it.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
No, See, that's how they're gonna trick him. Yes, that's
the tricks. They're not expecting this, were gonna gonna trick him,
and you get tricked.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, Roddney, you've been in a situation where you had
a great season, you lose in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Later in my career, yeah, later and later in my career.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Uh yeah, I was in uh finished up in well
finished Carolina, but I thought I was finished up in Oakland.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Went up there and uh got that. We we rolled like,
we rolled through the regular season and it was all good.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
And and then uh, I think, uh it was the
year that you talk about getting hot, Baltimore got hot.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
It was the year.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
It was two thousand and they got hot. Ray Lewis
and and that team got hot at the end of
the year and we were second seed and they Baltimore
played Tennessee and Tennessee was the number one seed that year,
and they was with Eddie George and Steve McNair and
they were rolling. They had the best record in NFL.

(24:00):
And Baltimore went into Tennessee and beat them, and then
we were like, oh, we got home field advantage. We
got home field. Now they got to come to us,
They got to come to us, and they were the
hot team, and you thought you had it and they
just rolled and steam rolled us and steam rolled into
the Super Bowl and won it all.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
But yeah, you know, it just it really doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
It matters how hot and how well you're playing, you know,
at that particular time, and you can't Unfortunately, there's not
a crystal ball and say, okay, let's turn on the
hotness at the end of at the end of September
or October, We're gonna turn on that hotness and get hot.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
It just has to happen organically.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
And I think the Dodgers right now, I guess the
good thing is we we really haven't seen them go
through a full, like a long stretch of just dominating
like we thought they were going to do going to
the season. They've had a really good year, but without
the domination like Otani's been dominant at times, and then

(25:06):
you know, they've they've they've won a stretch of games,
even these last even the Arizona's you know, home Arizona series,
and then before that they've been they've been kind of
really pretty good, but they haven't had that dominant like
stretch of ten straight games or fifteen games where they're
like blowing people out and and they've been consistently at

(25:27):
the top of the division, but they haven't had that yet,
and it feels like it is is brewing. I'm saying
this optimistically. It feels like it's brewing because I don't
think we've really seen the best of the Dodgers yet,
because guys have been hurt and and and they haven't
been one hundred percent healthy. And now that they're getting there,

(25:47):
especially with Mookie Freddy and Otani and Muncie back now
and Will Smith and all those guys back healthy, there's
a chance to get through this September staying healthy and
going into October as this is going to be a
very very difficult team to beat. But they haven't been healthy,
so we haven't really seen it yet. That's that's kind

(26:07):
of the I guess the scary thing. And then you
throw on top of the pitching. The pitching can't put
you in a hole five, you know, down five runs
in the first one or two innings.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
They have they have won eleven games in a row,
having didn't this so far this year when they they
were earlier at one point earlier June, right in June,
the games in row. But but like you said, but
I think, I think, I think what people expect riding,
you know, in sports, is they want the Dodgers that
you said, you haven't seen them like blow people out
like eight and nothing, not ten, the sixty fifteen to one.

(26:41):
I mean, you know, I think, you know, I think
that's what the fans expect. I mean, as a player,
I mean, sometimes you forget, now we don't forget the
fans forget hate. Those are pros over that too, like
I have to tell them about sometimes they came they
can't run the football. I said, Hey, them guys on
the side, those are the profession job on that baseball field.

(27:02):
Those guys over that they are pros too. I mean,
they have a tendency, but just think about their team
and get the other team is a professional team also,
no matter how bad the Anaheim Angels are, you know,
and they're bad, but that's the professional baseball team. Players. Still,
they got some players play and it showed. It showed.

(27:23):
Last name, they got a guy throwing one hundred and
six miles and miles an hour. I saw that. You
saw that.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
So let's not forget that these guys are professional and
they also got pride. You know, there's certain every team
you played, again, it was always at least one to
three or four or five guys on that other team.
You're like, that's a bad boy on that Oh yeah,
they could have the worst record in the league, but
you knew, oh man, that's a bad boy on that side.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I don't know, right, No, I don't know. Now I
can tell when I was on that coach football team,
I okay, except for that was that was a bad
football team. I'm talking about scary, scared to play. Man.
I'm over there cursing the players, other players out on
the other team. Men're gonna tell my own player, gonna
tell me, You're gonna piss them off. I'm like, all

(28:16):
run it pissed off, You're gonna piss them off. You
got really pissed.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Eric, You've actually played on teams and I know you've
told that story before, but have you been on teams
where the guys on your team are afraid?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yes, the Indianapolis Coast seriously said, Man, it was the
craziest thing in the world. We still talk about it.
Me and my friend Eugene Daniels Harvey Armstrong who played
me at the coach Jeff Rod we talked about that
football team we went one in fifteen and how scared
these players were. We played the Giants I think on
a Thursday night, and man, you know I forgot I'm

(28:52):
already with a defensive lineman one of my offensive lines.
He was off there. He was six he's six foot seven,
and he's talking about looked like Tarzan played like you
don't even play like James, you know, I don't know.
He played like a baby camp. I mean, he's so
soft and and I'm I'm arguing with the guy and
he tells, me, come on, every man, you making the man.
You're gonna piss him up, like what you mean we're

(29:13):
gonna I mean you're talking about frustrated Fred, frustrated to death.
You know, you can see one thing about and you
notice it. You can see fear when the guy's fearful.
If another player pushes you, like they push the player
like they shoved him. He don't. He walked back to
the huddle. I'm like, ain't nowhere in the world. Dog down,
tell his legs. Yeah, we're gonna fight, man, Yeah fraid.

(29:34):
That's a that's a that in the sports. That is
one of the most unsettling things in sports for another
player to watch his own players get basically pumped community you.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Are, and you know it is It kind of goes
back to the beginning of the time. Right You're you
in a war, You're in a dog fight.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
You're a dog other team.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
You may have a best friend on that other team,
but you when you were in that huddle and you
you are playing against someone else, you are in a
dog fight with the other team, and you want to
know when you look in those other guy's eyes, like
he's in the fight with me. He's in the fight
with me, and we you know, we may not win

(30:17):
this thing, but we're going down with our fistballed up
and ready to go. And when you see that, that's
there's fear and the guys like scared to kind of
go break the huddle or even go back on the field.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
That is a terrible feeling. Terri. You know what, you
know he doesn't got your back. He got your back
because I can said when I played with the Rams,
I won't forget we were going to go in the
city's uh you know, we're going to Chicago, or we're
going to even San Francisco and they had their great
football team over there. We're going to Saint Louis and play, uh,
anywhere in Minnesota. It was always cool when we jogged

(30:51):
on the field. You here say, man, that's the Rams,
you know. Or we come to the hotel, man, that's
the Rams, you know, because we were known for being physical.
We're gonna run, We're gonna run the ball, you know man.
That you know, Wow, that's the you know that that song,
So that's that's Jackie Slatery. You know you know that
made you You just walked in. We're just proud. I mean, man,
I tell you, it's it's so frustrated when you walk

(31:14):
in and you just feel like they're gonna kill them clowns.
The fan said, we're gonna kill them. They look scared already,
you know, Like I said, little Leo, man, this is
this is just this. It's just disheartening, that's all. Like
I say, but what do you.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Say to a guy? What when when you they have fear?
What do you tell them?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
There's nothing you can show now, you can say none,
you can tell them you can it's already in them.
It's already embedded in them. And they have that mentality
and and they're looking for the easy way out. Like
you said, don't piss him off or don't aim ay
maybe you know, make sure you check out of this
play because I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
To get that.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
I don't know if I can block even one on one,
to make sure we don't get you know, you get
that look you check out because I don't know if
I could block him one on one. I'm like, oh man,
really really yeah, So there's nothing you can really do
because that person is defeated. I always love those cats
that you know, and you know, we've all seen those

(32:18):
cats that have the uh it's a Napoleon complex, right,
the littlest cat.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
But they will fight anybody here. That's what you want.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
You know, you don't want to be crazy, but you
you love those kind of guys because you know that
they are going to go down swinging, and that's all
you really want. You may not win, but you want to.
You want the guys in the huddle, and you want
guys that you look in those eyes that are on
your team to know that, hey, we're all in this together.
We're gonna all fight together. And if if if two

(32:48):
guys jump on him, I'm in it too. You know,
I've always looked up and see what what offensive linemen
is going to get my running back when he goes
into the bench or goes onto the other side, who's
going to help him out?

Speaker 2 (32:59):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (32:59):
And so you you got to know that guys are
there to fight for you regardless this. Like I said,
your brother, your best friend on the other side. You
gotta have guys that are willing to go fight.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
That happened. That happened in New York my first year.
We go down to play the Jets, and uh, shut up,
mutt back your bucket.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
By the way, when I call her dog much the
dog Lulu, but I call him, Mutt answer them, yeah,
shut up.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
So we gona we gonna we go down to play
the Jets. And now John Robinson said, look, he said,
we're not having gas or do that stupid dance. If
he gets the sack on the quarterback, I'm saying, I'm like, okay,
so I'm a rookie, sure enough, laying the game. He
gets the sack on Jacket Slater and man, the fight

(33:49):
breaking Jackie. I don't even know what happened to jack
I think Jackets was on the ground most of the time.
Where were you at anyway, both benches, If we were,
I mean we were fighting, we were fighting, not that
I remember. I had a dd bred. I was tearing
this dB up. I had him down the ground. I
mean because I grabbed me somebody. I grabbed me somebody
little and then and then and then Joe Cleco start chasing.

(34:13):
I'm like, oh no, dog, let get your hands on me.
So that's how fights went down.

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that nice little team and we will get Eric's thoughts.

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(36:40):
Featrie the Hall of Famer Eric Dickinson.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
All right, how about you spent some time playing for
the Raiders, see okay, who had the better experience?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Well, man, it was it was. It was different, let's
put it. I was.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
It was more of a spectator sport for me. So
I don't know, you got to talk d D about that.
I had a good time though. I had a good
time playing for the latest. I got a chance to play,
but it was kind of odd some of the things
that were going on, like, I won't forget We played
the Chargers and I had one hundred and one yards
that half, and then I was done. I didn't play anymore. Yeah,

(37:23):
I won't forget it.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I won't. I'll never forget it because Junior say, what
year was this, ninety two? Yeah, ninety two, mm hmm, yeah,
I mean it was. It was games where I would,
you know, because you don't play great out there, somebody
was having you know, the rough day or not playing well.
But I'll be having some good, good games and a
doubt you got you know, you know, you know, they

(37:44):
pull out the game or they bring us up to
in and I won't forget Guys, You're like, man, why
you're not in the game, Like, man, I don't know
who's the coach. Who's the coach at Archer Archill Archill? Yeah,
but who's who's the real coach? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Absolutely was, absolutely, you know that was the thing. You know,
a lot of people, you know, didn't really know until
you were there, right Eric, You hear things from Afar
brought Davis, but then you get.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
There and you're like all that stuff people were saying, Yeah,
it's true. He was a he was a real coach.
But I got to say this. I gotta say that.
I gotta say this about the Raided organization. You know
that that that model wants a Raider, always a Raider. Yeah,
that is a that is a very truthe. I got
to give them credit on that.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
You get more emails and correspondence from the Raiders than
any other organization.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yes, I gotta say for sure, a matter of fact,
but the Raiders that I just had their uh you
know their what is it called, you know, the alumni
the Alumnia weekend. It was two weeks ago. And Rodney Man,
when I say they do a great job, I don't.
I don't think a team can do a better job
that it was. I'd be shocking if they do. Some

(38:57):
guys say, I mean I don't play one game for
the Raiders, right, said, I played, I played six games
and they and they send me me I want me
to come back.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
They had two hundred and about two hundred and fifty
players back there two weeks ago in in Vegas. Uh.
We said to Dell in the hotel, I think last year,
said the win. Uh they rented. Uh. I forgot the
name of the place where they've had a big uh.
It's a bowling alley. That all to take with the
whole the whole place upstairs, downstairs, cigars, you know, alcohol food.

(39:26):
I mean, man, they do a fantastic job. I mean,
I got to say that that Shannon and Cali. Man,
they did it. I mean they do. They do a
great job. And I say a lot of teams should
take notice, because let me tell you what it does.
Players feel like you know how most players feel. Players
feel like that the teams want you to go somewhere
and die. Even they said it, even if the girls

(39:48):
said they said, a lot of players because they said
to them, and a lot of these teams they don't.
They don't. They don't want you to come back. They
say that they don't wan to come back. You know,
don't ask for nothing. But I got to say, I
give the Raiders credit, man, they treat you. It's also the.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Raiders almost they act like a like a like a college,
like a university college that one like a good all, yeah,
but like a good university that welcomes their their players back.
And I can say that because I played. I played
for more teams than than than you did.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Eric.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
In my career played for six different ones, and and
of all the teams, to to your point, the most
correspondence I get is.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
From the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
The Raiders, and the Raiders reach out more than anybody else,
saying come on back for an alumni weekend, come on
back for this, you want to come to a game here,
you know, here's what you do, here's what you call
this person. They did the you know, when they built
Allegiance Stadium in Vegas, they had little plaques, a little
little uh cemit things where they had every player that

(40:51):
ever played for the Raiders has got a there. They
got your name, and they got your number and and
and they got it embedded in into the cement of
the stadium.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
And so they they they really do do a do
a really good job in terms of reaching out to
the alums. And and to Eric's point, once you're a Raider,
you're always a Raider. They do treat you like you
It is like your a alum of that of that franchise.
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Speaker 1 (41:45):
Little team, that nice little team. So let's get and
also let's get away Dodger tickets. It's yeah, seven seventy.
We've got a pair of Dodger tickets. You have a
chance to win. Rodney would call her number.