Treating and Cleaning Wounds

Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Sarwat Jabeen about treating wounds.  

Episode Transcript

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Remember when it was impossible to misplacethe TV remote because you were the TV
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Doug Pike. All right, herewe go. Fifty plus Friday Edition starts
right now. We've got a goodshow lined up. I got a lot.
I just tell Will, I've gotabout two hours of stuff sitting here
that I would love to tap aswe go through the morning afternoon. Excuse
me, it's just just a trainwreck of a change for me to finish
up prepping in the morning and thenwalk down the hall and come in here

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and two three, what is it? Five minutes later? It's the afternoon.
So anyway, it's a pretty niceFriday outside. And for those of
you who are retired, probably notmuch different from a Tuesday or a Sunday,
except maybe you've got a different teatime, or you're gonna go to
lunch someplace other than where you wentyesterday or the day before. And I

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salute each and every one of youfor having reached the career finish line with
the ability to finally stop working.If you've done that, and then,
if you're like most driven people,though, you're gonna do nothing for what
less than a year, maybe beforeyou find something else to do, because
you can only play so much golf, you can only catch so many fish,

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and you can only redecorate every roomin the house once at least once
over. Well at this point inour lives, if you're redecorating any more
often than that, maybe just gobuy yourself a dream house. I'll tell
you how to do that a littlelater in the program. As a matter
of fact, hobbies are good,maybe some social clubs. But yeah,

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in a city like Houston, ifyou're accustomed to moving at our freeway pace,
whether you're in your car, inyour office, on the phone,
whatever, you can only slow downso much. You just can't around here.
It's very difficult if you're accustomed tothis pace to slow down, And
I think the only way to trulyslow your role, if I might,

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if you're used to running wide openall day, would be to physically move
to a city or town of fewerthan probably half a million people. You're
gonna need more than a quarter millionpeople, I think, because that way
you can still get quality medical care. So anyway, quick look at the
four cast, which looks really pleasantat least through next Tuesday. That's enough
of that cloudy Monday, but friendlyclouds. Markets and oil not so friendly

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at all. Major indicators down apoint and change thanks to poor bank performance
in this first quarter, and thenoil decided to jump up more than two
bucks. The last I looked,and I've been scared ever since, it
was at eighty seven dollars and thirtytwo cents, and that is being driven
by increased tension in the Middle Eastthat indirectly is attributable in more than one

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or two ways to guess who ourpresident's fumbles with an international politic with refusal
to encourage domestic drilling and wide openborders, all of which have left us
behind the eight ball and dangerously vulnerablefrom this point forward. For at least
a few more months gold, soI don't forget north of twenty four hundred

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dollars announce. I talked to BradSchwisch from Houston Gold Exchange about I don't
know about a half an hour ago. He said he doesn't really know how
much higher it'll go before it levelsoff and maybe turns. But at this
point it wouldn't take much. Wouldn'ttake much old gold laying around the house
to generate a pretty fat check ifyou're thinking about selling. So if you
want to check in with him,go to Houston goold Exchange dot com.

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Or Speaking of President Biden, indirect contradiction to recent rulings by our Supreme
Court, he announced just a littleearlier this morning approval of more student debt
relief for more than a quarter ofa million borrowers. That's gonna cost you

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and me, the American taxpayers,seven point four billion dollars so far,
the total amount of money he's givenup his buying plan disguise. It's a
vote buying plan, is what itis, and it's disguised as a loan
forgiveness plan. But the bottom lineis he shelled out one hundred and fifty

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three billion dollars one hundred and fiftythree billion dollars, and basically taught young
people it's okay to borrow money andnot pay it back because somebody else will
pay it back for you. Amongeight million or so people who've benefited from
your tax dollars in mind so far, almost four point three million of them

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now paying zero dollars a month zero. I saw a state by state breakdown
too of how many student loans arebeing lowered or erased in this latest idiotic
plan, and it's just staggering.Every dollar being used to repay poorly,
poorly accepted, poorly understood student loans, every one of those dollars is a

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dollar that can't be spent on nationalsecurity. It can't be spent on securing
our border, It can't be spenton veterans benefits, on anything that actually
would benefit this country. Far toomany of the people who will benefit from
this windfall weren't even paying down theirloans anyway. So we're god going to

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see any difference, really, excepthigher taxes and higher and hire and hire
and Earlier this week, President Bidenessentially dared our court system to challenge any
of his election year executive orders.In other words, he's going to keep
trying to coddle young and impressionable peoplewho don't really know any better. They

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don't really see the end game thathe has in mind, he and his
minions. And it's quite frightening.Really. He dared our court system to
challenge his executive orders when they've alreadydone that. By the way, the
US Supreme Court said no to studentloan repayment. Pay attention to those of

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you who support this man. Thatsounds to me almost like some sort of
dictatorial statement. The that's not thestatement of someone who is in favor of
doing what's best for our nation.He's just said, I'm gonna do this
whether you like it or not.And with the oil crowded ninety bucks a
barrel again, here we go.We're gonna pay more for gas, and

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so will the truckers who have tomove our groceries, which means higher food
costs, higher everything again, higherthan it is even now, even now,
when prices are already just nuts inflated, and inflation continues to rise dramatically,
all while we're lied to on adaily basis. And just to just
look at the em for his newclothes. Look how fantastic he looks in

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his new clothes. Even AOC andJimmy Kimmel sat on his stage this week,
talked about things ought they had toknow were untrue and presented them as
facts, and his audience just lappedit up. It's frustrating to witness how
easy it's become to doupe some,if not most, of Americans. And
it's our own fault. We don'tteach young people the difference between reality and

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fantasy. We let them create theseimaginary realities, and we go along with
them and even encourage them, andthen we can't understand at all why they
don't recognize the truth when it's standingright in front of them. Oh my
gosh, I'm getting off of that. We're gonna shift gears in the next
segment, I promise, and thenfor the rest of the program, we'll
try to lighten it up a littlebit. If I can hold my nose

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you. What's life without a net? I suggest to go to bed and
sleep it off, Just wait untilthe show's over. Sleepy. Back to
Doug Pike as fifty plus continues.Welcome back to fifty plus on this Bantastic

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Friday. We'll talk in this segmentabout something we probably not covered enough in
the past eight plus years on thisshow. And it just kind of dawned
on me when I saw the topiccome up for discussion in the in the
early work I see earlier in theweek, and that's at home wound care.

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So many of us get dinged up, and it's a lot easier to
just slap a band aid on somethingthan to go to the doctor's office and
see there around a bunch of sickpeople for thirty minutes trying to get in
and be seen for something we knowwe can handle. Ourselves to share the
right ways to go about handling thisstuff, ourselves, to maintain a wound
at home the right way. I'mgonna bring in doctor sarwatcha Bean faculty physician

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excuse me, at the Mike Leede Bakey Department of Veterans Affairs with specialization
in geriatrics and wound healing. That'sno coincidence. Welcome to fifty plus,
Doctor Juban, thank you and thanksfor inviting me to this show. Oh
certainly. Yeah. I talked yesterdayabout some of the cruel tricks nature plays
on seniors as we become increasingly senior, those of us who are I know

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you're not a senior yet, sodon't worry about that and the crew.
Yeah, Okay. The cruel trickwe'll deal with today is this wound care
stuff. Seniors bodies just don't healnearly so fast as those of kids and
even young adults. Why is that? Yeah, so when so let's just

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kind of I just want to sayhere that, okay, when we talk
about won, what is wond right, So it's really it simply means injury
to the skin by trauma, right, and then have acute wounds and we
have chronic wands. Acute one islike surgical or traumatic and it heels just
fine. The problem we come acrossin older adults are chronic wound, which

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is the problematic wound. And ifyou look at the statistics, it's about
three to six million people in theUnited States and eighty five percent of those
are sixty five and older and thecost is about three billion per year.
So it is important. So whenyou think about it, why is that
that older people have, you know, older essence, they have slower wound

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healing. And interestingly, if youlook at the literature wound itself or age
itself, I should say age itselfis not the reason for delayed or healing.
It's the other complexities that play rolein wone healing are lacking in older
adults. And some of it canbe controlled, some of it cannot be.

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So that's kind of what I wantto go over. So you asked
about aging and delayed won healing there, Well, there are changes which happen
as we age, and we saywone healing, it's simply reconstruction of the
injured skin. Right, So basicchanges that happen to skin as we age,
and to keep it simple, Idon't want to go into painful details,

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but to keep it simple, wehave three layers of skin, and
each layer go through some changes aswe get older. The most superficial layer
is epidermis, which works as abarrier prevent or skin from dehydration, light
damage, chemicals, and mechanical injuries. And that's the most superficial lairer epidermis.

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Now, epidermis makes new cells whichpushes away all dead cells. That
process slow down as the age,so then it skin becomes more stiff and
dry. Under that is a dermallayer which retains water, which has collagen
FIP, collagen elastin which keeps theskin elastic. It also tens out as

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the age, so you can imaginethat lacking of those components can also affect
wond healing. And then after thatis the fat layer Fatly it is what
keeps the temperature regulated, and whenwe lose that fat, that gives us
skin that wrinkling and sagging appearance.So all these factors lead to slow wond

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healing. And then of course ithas moisture glands wh glands and these all
gets depleted not only depletion of collagen, but the structure of collagen also get
more disorganized. So these are thechanges that happens. Okay, well,
let's start with something very simple thatthat I think most of this audience can

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relate to. Let's say we cutour finger, we're slicing the tomato.
We cut our finger, and it'sa little deeper than just the outer layers
of the skin, but nothing needsstitches. How do we what's the best
way to clean a wound? So, really, if if there is nothing
in the house, really a water, warm water and soap is fine.

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Most of the time. Most ofthe patients that I come across, they
usually have sailin at home or theycan just because most of the time,
you know, our tapwater is cleanand it can just rinse it. After
that, the most important factor isputting a pressure on. So any clean
how well depends on how big isthe won But if someone has even band

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aid at home, so kind oflike a put a pressure bend aid anything,
they put the pressure on that area. Now, remember most of our
older patients are also on blood tinner, so that makes them even more prone
to have more bleeding. So anyany kind of bleeding, the most important
thing is putting pressure on. Juststop the bleeding right right to control that,

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okay, and eyes. If youdo put eyes, just make sure
you don't put it too long becausethen it's gonna just come more damage to
the circulation there. So just tokind of initially and after that, I
mean, the key is pressure pressurepressure doctor been on fifty plus here.
Once we get past a day oneor two with this cut on our finger
or arm or whatever, how oftenshould we be replacing that dressing? So

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that really depends. I mean,if bleeding is keep happening, we want
to keep something. Let's say,if patients say, well, bended is
not holding up, I would say, just put some gauze in that and
then some paper tape on top ofit to provide more pressure in that area.
If it is set, go ahead. And since some of this stuff

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just doesn't go as planned, let'stalk about avoiding infection and what the early
signs of that look like too.So infection if there is in heat coming
out of that wound, if it'sred, if it's warm, if the
drainage becomes if you start seeing pureand drainage out of it and it starts

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like more angry looking, or ifthere's seaver chills. Then those are some
alarming sign that I would certainly goto the doctor for that. One thing
I want to mention a lot ofpeople have a strong believe in a triple
antibiotic or some sporen that they apply, but studies have shown that really these

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using these ointment and time microbial overa period of time may develop resistance.
So when these patients do need oralantibiody, now they're resistant. So the
better is apply some dressing which hasanti microbial in it. For example,
patients like older patients especially get skintear a lot, like they bump into

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things and they get skin laceration orskin tear. Then I most of the
time what might to go or whereI like dressing is zero form, which
they can get from Amazon from Walmart. Yes, has a whole section and
because it's gentle, it hasn't timemicrobil it has, so it doesn't stick

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to the skin, so it's notpeeled off when they remove it. I
hate to tell you this, butwe're out of time. Even with all
these questions I still have. Itgoes so very quickly, Doctor Sarwat,
you mean, thank you so much. This gives me a lot of information
to work with here and I mayjust circle back to you and get the
rest of these questions. Thank you, thank you, uh huh, my
pleasure, by bye, all right, speaking of getting yourself all patched up.

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UT Health Institute on Aging is acollaborative effort of hundreds of providers in
this area, mostly down in themedical center, which I've actually got some
statistics about the medical center. Imay get to here in a little bit.
And they also almost all these providersspend a little bit of time in
outlying areas Paarland, Kingwoods, Sugarland, the Woodlands, Katie, everywhere around

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town. And that gives you andme and anybody else who is a senior
the opportunity to be seen by someonewho specializes not only in whatever they got
the diploma for that's hanging on thewall in their office, but also that
discipline, that medical specialization, plushow it applies to seniors. They know

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us way better than we know ourselves. There's no reason in the world not
to use a provider who is amember of the Institute on Aging, because
it's going to be a very beneficialexperience for you to have that additional level
of expertise on your team. UTdot Edu slash aging. That's the website
ut h dot edu slash aging.Now they sure don't make them like they

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used to. That's why every fewmonths we wash them, check his fluids
and spring on a fresh cod owax. This is fifty plus with Dougpike.
All right, welcome back to fiftyplus on this beautiful Friday afternoon.

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Thank you for listening. Hope youbrought some friends. If you didn't this
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I hope you'll take advantage of anyand all of them when you have the
opportunity to do so. And Iguess fairly significant nerd news. Well,
I'm going to bet a dollar youdidn't hear about this. There was an

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underwater anomaly spotted by Electronic Gear atFirst Electronics Software that was roughly it was
pushing up enormous waves over a reallylarge chunk of ocean, larger even than
our state, the great State ofTexas. And immediately on the Internet there

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arose theories that some giant Texas sizedalien craft was cruising along the bottom of
the ocean and pushing up these waves. And you think that's it, will
no or and this went on thatthis phenomenon went on for right out a

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full day. My guess is thatif there were something that big moving along
the bottom of the ocean, maybesomebody on planet Earth would have seen it
when it went into the ocean andthen headed for the bottom. It's the
size of Texas, I mean,and nobody nobody noticed. Of course,

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they were busy looking at the eclipse. That's what happened, will it Let
During the eclipse it came straight in, straight in in the shadow, and
that's why they tell you to notlook directly at Oh yeah, sun,
so you don't see the Texas sizedalien craft. Now it's starting to make
now, it all makes sense.So it was either that or maybe,

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just maybe it could have been causedby some fairly large seismic shocks, which
I think is the more logical explanation. And then the third one that was
proposed on the Internet was that itwas some some fault in the software that
registers all this stuff, But thatwouldn't explain the actual physical presence of those

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big waves. So I'm gonna gowith Will, and we're gonna say it
was an alien craft that jumped intothe ocean right as the eclipse was going
on, and nobody noticed. Everybody'slooking up. Nobody's looking at the sea,
nobody's looking at the waves. Will, nobody's looking at the ocean when
you've got an eclipse and the downNo, everybody's looking up. They've been

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keeping it just really it's going realslow, real slow, until it was
time. I guess. Maybe Idon't know. And why did it stop.
If it's an alien craft on thebottom of the ocean, why does
it go for a day and thenstop. Maybe you know what, Oh,
I know why Because it's an evET and it had to plug in
and charge up at the bottom ofthe ocean. Yeah. BUCkies, BUCkies

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deep, Wow, the deepest BUCkieson the planet. One fueling station,
just a big long extension cord.Probably, I don't know, Maybe it
comes out of the White House didyou see that that BUCkies and like that's
out by looing on I ten aboutWest is gonna be the biggest BUCkies that

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there is. They've essentially added anotherentire BUCkies onto that plot of land.
Why, I don't know what's what'sthe purpose? It couldn't have been that
busy, could it. I mean, well, I drove by it a
lot, because I would drive byit whenever I was going up to San
Antonio College, and I mean itwas always a busy BUCkies. But to

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add what looks like another BUCkies,another Bucki's right next to the BUCkies.
Bucky Bucky, a Bucky Bucky.Maybe that's what they'll call it. Well,
probably not. Though, do youare you familiar with American Top forty?
You know who did that? CaseyCasem? Heard of him? I
have heard of Casey case Pace Casemdid a bit a feature, a weekly

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feature back in the maybe sixties,seventies and maybe into the eighties. Even
he was also the guy who wasalways doing the ball drop on New Year's
Eve until he passed. Okay,So anyway, the long and the short
of it is I found out today. I found out today that his Top

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forty songs of the week were calledthe top forty and not the top thirty
of the top fifty. Any idea, why will take yourself back to if
you can in your history book thefifties, in the sixties and what was
very popular then but isn't around nowas music goes, Oh big bands,

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no, no, something you puta nickel into here. So a jukebox,
juke box? You know how many? How many records most jukebox held
back then? Ooh, I'm gonnago with forty. That's exactly right.
That is the origin of the topforty because juke boxes used to hold about
forty songs. Uh say, cheeseeat first or take that back? Will

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take that back? Woman at TacoBell the day before the eclipse went in
there and started throwing money around andtipping people. She ends up dropping like
a thousand bucks in tips at TacoBell. Awesome, I remember correctly,
because she thought she was going tobe swept up in the biblical rapture on

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the day of the eclipse. Onlyonly she wasn't swept up at all.
And now she wants a refund.Wow, Oh man, play stupid games,
you get stupid prizes. Did wasshe particularly fond of this taco bell
was this somewhere she frequented enough thatshe left a grand in her wake,

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presuming she'd be gone the next day. If any if anyone ever feels like
that's going to happen to them,here's what you do. You write a
letter that says, I want here. There's one thousand dollars in this envelope,
and I want these people to haveit if I'm gone on what was
it, April the eleventh or whatever, And that way it can be distributed

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to the people you wanted to haveit. But on the outside chance that
it doesn't work out that way,you still got your money. I don't
now, I don't think that wouldbe legally binding. Well yeah, but
if she's already given out the money, she's she's gifted that money to these
people I know have Yeah, Iagree, Yeah, they should they get

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to keep the money. How muchtime do we have? You got a
minute? Oh? I can't,man, I may have to wait till
next week to talk about the amazingthings that Texas brings to this country in
this world. That it just Boy, if you were ever going to make
a case for independence, the onetwo, four, six, eight ten

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to twenty something bullet points I havehere that were sent to me by one
of the guys in the office,and you just start reading and people go,
well, yeah, we can justwe can just dump all this other
stuff quickly. Oh, how muchdo you think the average American pays in
taxes in their lifetime? And I'mtalking about property tax, sales tax,

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and income tax average American? Yousaid we only had a minute, and
now you're just wasting. Well,now, just I'm thinking, don't think
about it. We'll come back doit when you come. Well, I
want to know how much you thinkit is when we come back. On
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within a week. You get yourcheck, they get your house, and
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This is fifty plus with Doug Pike. All right, welcome back fifty
plus the masters. And I'm nottalking about rem Brandt and Picasso and Gogan
and Renoir and Mattis and all ofthem. I'm talking about Homa, Deshambeau,

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Scheffler, Hoyguard, Connors, etcetera. Very quickly, Max Homa
has He's two under through ten ontoday's round. He's at seven under par
leading yesterday's finishing the leader Bryson deShamba, who was seven but through four
holes now is just six under par. He finds himself tied with Scotty Scheffler,

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who hasn't gotten onto the golf courseyet and will be there. Actually
he may have teed off by now, but he hasn't finished his first hole.
Hoy Guard's at four, Connors isat three along with Fox and Davis.
Those names probably won't be that highup. Those two names anyway,
may not be that high up theleaderboard a little later in the weekend.

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I still got my money on Schefflerin case you're wondering, and I can't
help myself. He's just he's playingtoo well and clicking on just he's running
on every cylinder he's gotten a coupleof he may not have even known he
has. I think he's got agood shot to do this. Uh,
we all, I'm gonna go.We gotta come back to this tax thing.
The average American will pay slightly lessthan how much in taxes in their

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entire life? Slightly less? Yeah, we're talking just whatever. I'll go
with eight one hundred thousand dollars averageAmerican including you, if you live so
long and are lucky enough, payfive hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in

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taxes. That's frightening. That's reallyfrightening that we can be paying that much
across each and every one of ourlives, and still this country is in
thirty something trillion dollars of debt.We are clearly living beyond our means in

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this country, which I don't thinkis terribly smart. Okay, since you're
not gonna give me much time todo much good. Oh, this kind
of scares me a little bit.A library in New Jersey, oopsies,
can we get a do over?Please? They gave out counterfeit eclipse glasses.

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They caught the air a couple ofhours before the eclipse, it says,
and warned people not to use themsince they couldn't vouch for them.
They better hope nobody left the librarywith those glasses and used them somewhere else.
That's kind of scary, real quick. A scam er alert, same

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scam is a while back, butthey're doing it again. You pick up
the phone and somebody else can youhear me? Don't say anything, just
hang up. It could be ascam where they're trying to get you to
say yes and record your voice,which can then be used to make it
seem like you authorized something that youdid not and that that could mean banking,

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It could mean credit card stuff.No, whatever, this is interesting.
Will like bakeries? Who doesn't wrong? Yeah? A bakery in Kansas
is asking customers to eat their cookiescarefully, very carefully. The owner was
making the dough a few days see, it was last Friday's dough that made

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a bunch of cookies, and thestone in her four thousand dollars. Diamond
ring fell into that dough and it'sgone. Don't put the don't put those
cookies. Yeah, and I don'tknow. I'm just saying, maybe wear
gloves when you're making your dough.We're out of here for this week.

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