Reagan Gomez talks Unexpected Christmas, Black Culture, WB/UPN & more | S8 E6 | 1 on 1's w/Deuces - 1-on-1's w/Deuces

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Let me choose your character.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
All right, all right, all right, welcome back to the
geek Set, podcast only podcasts that blending hip hop culture
and geek coachure together.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm your boy, Duces, and this is one on one
with Duces, the.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Place where I speak with creators, curators and people that
you should know. And right now, y'all, I have black
ruealty on my screen right now, and you know, I
talk about this on my podcast a lot on the
main podcast about how you know, we had so many
black explosions in Hollywood and my love for those UPN shows,

(01:01):
for those c W shows and everything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
And we have none other than the one and only
Reagan Gomes. How are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm so good. You did that, so good, your introduction,
everything was so good. But I'm so great. Thank you
for having me, No.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Thank you, thank you. So I really love doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
So a little bit about me and getting into podcasting
and in general, I love culture.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I love just as much as you love genre. And
we'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I love culture so much and I love black culture
right and originally I wanted to do a hip hop podcast.
This is before like podcast Boom took off and it
was just Deces and Merrow and you know, it was
tax Stone and all that, and I knew I did
I couldn't do. I didn't want to do a podcast
by myself because I do enjoy good conversation and I
couldn't get nobody to do a podcast with me. So

(01:49):
then months go by, and that that love and that
drive for wanting to do a podcast never.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Left time to do it yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, And so I was like, what else do I love?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
And I was like, you know what, I love geek
culture as well, and I was like, I really want
to talk passionate about that because Hollywood still has the
portrayal of the black geek, like the nerd who's socially awkward.
And I'm like, hey man, I feel like I'm pretty cool.
So I'm like, let me show this side of geek
them and everything. And so I started doing interviews and
started doing more things just showing black culture and here

(02:20):
we are, I get legends like you so before we start, though,
I do also my platform is all about love and
giving people their flowers. Now again, I talked about black
culture and everything and how much that upn days meant
so much to us, right, But not even out. Even
outside of that, you were on shows like Cousin Skeeter
that showed so much black stoy.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, And I want to let you know from the culture,
from me from geekst thank you for as many years
of talent, as many years of showing the black experiences
and all your work that you put into this industry.
I want to say thank you so much because you
do such a great job and everything that you do.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate that. And look,
I love podcasts. When you said Jesus and MARYL I
was listening to them. I was listening to all of them.
And actually I had a podcast from twenty fifteen to
twenty twenty. I had to give it up in the
middle of COVID. It was me and my husband just
in our house. Because I love culture too. I love

(03:24):
black culture too. I love geek stuff and hip hop.
So yeah, when you reached out, I was like, absolutely, absolutely,
but thank you so much. I really appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, no problem at all, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
And it's funny because one of the real real reasons
that I really wanted to interview and it.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Took it was like not way back, but probably a
couple of years back.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
It was during the height of like walking down and
I'm watching The Walking Dead and I'm breaking down episodes
and then I'm seeing I'm like, yo, it's ringing as
a blur, and my god.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
And they never invited me on Remember they used to
have like after show for years. I would be like
like on Twitter and like people would be like breaking
go masses here, she's the biggest walking Given And they
never called me. Oh my god, that was like such
a special time. And yes, that's you, Lucille, right, ye, correctly.

(04:19):
But the Walking Dead was such a special time in
Twitter and Twitter talking because if you remember The Walking
Dead and Game of Thrones, they came out the same
sure this year, so live tweeting that. It was such
a special time for sure, Yes, but what.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Is it about? So here's the thing. What is it
about Twitter for you that gets you so active?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Because you've been active in a lot of black Twitter moments,
but in also a lot of cultural moments where just like.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
King messes out here with us.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Well, because I like to talk, I like to talk,
and I got on it. It's actually funny how I
got on Twitter. I was on MySpace like everybody was
on my space, and then I had my daughter in
two thousand and like, I couldn't check my Space as
much anymore, obviously because I had other responsibilities. Back then,
you just had to be in front of the computer, right.
Smartphones weren't even a thing. So when I got my

(05:10):
first iPhone, I was like, let me look and see.
There has to be something else because my Space is
kind of on the decline, like what's the next big thing?
And Questlove went to my MySpace and he was like,
you need to get on Twitter. I was like, what
the fuck is Twitter? And I had my new iPhone
and I was like, let me just see. So I
put it on there and I was hooked. I was

(05:33):
I like talking to people. I liked that I didn't
have to show my face. Instagram came later, but I
liked that I could just be looking like a bum
in the house with my baby and my house looking
a mess, and I could get on there like what
are you guys talking about? You know, what's going on?
And then you know, we had just had two thousand
and eight, Obama was elected, and then twenty twelve came around.

(05:56):
That was my first election on Twitter, and that opened
up just like, oh my god, am I political do
I I'm like, it was it. I still love the site.
It's I'm not as active if you know, you know,
it's just like scaring the holes, like and I am

(06:18):
I'm not a hole, but I am a hoes that
is scared. Like it's just it's it's very it's very scary.
Right now, it's not fun anymore. So I still have
my account and I ventured off. I'm posting a lot
more on Instagram, which I've been on Instagram since twenty
eleven and TikTok. But I'm gonna come back because listen,
can we cuss? Yes, yes, that motherfucker is not taking

(06:41):
my Twitter from me. Okay, I was there first. I
was there before him. He's not gonna have it forever.
It's going through this weird whatever the fuck it is,
but it's still my favorite. I'm giving it a break
right now, but it's not it's not scaring me away.
I will be back.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
So two things that what you just said made me realize.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
This is how I know that you really, you really
with us and this people, because the fact that you
use the term scaring the hoes, like you know what
I'm saying, like some people, if you don't know, you
will some people will get offended by But you know
exactly what.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
It is scaring the girls scaring I don't want to
go nowhere, and I'm scared the women who want to
be nowhere where we are scared And exactly it's a
certain kind of cultural what uh you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
This leads me to and to me, it makes so
much sense why you took this where one you took
the stance to where you took on during this moment.
So one of the other moments of black Twitter that
I saw you very active. And then this is where
I learned that oh, Raygan Gomez is really a hip
hop head too. Was during that Drake and Kendrick beef. Right,
Oh yeah, so here's my here's here's been my assessment.

(07:52):
And I feel like you're gonna have the same type
of assessment that I had, because even before the beef start,
like Drake was always artists that I would look at, like, look,
he does make it cool for you to have your
feelings and everything like that, but like it still, like
you know what I'm saying, Like all right, but like
you Drake like you, like, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
The cousin had come.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Around, right, But where I said Drake lost And the
reason why he lost so bad now is because he started,
like whatever you classify the Passport bros. He started making
more music geared towards them, and he started dissing the
women and so cause a lot of the times back
in the day when dudes be like drinking soft, drinking soft, the.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Women used to be his biggest but now they wasn't.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
And this one and when I knew Drake lost it
when he said when he told Kendrick, the women that you,
the women that listen to you, like you making music
for women who look like they like they got to
read or something like that.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
And I'm like, so you saying that bad bitches?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Really, what's with reading?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
You know?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
And it's look, we can talk about that beef all day, right,
such a special time because my daughter was a junior
in high school at the time, and she's a hip
hop head. So we were like all in the gossip,
all in the updates together, so we went to the
pop out and everything. But yeah, you know, between the

(09:08):
two of them, my my daughter is eighteen, My son
is fourteen. So between Drake and Kendrick, those are the
two biggest rappers in our house. Raising them the last however,
seventeen years, so we have been big fans of both
of them. But the beef, it was very clear, Oh,
this guy is like taking a side, and the side

(09:29):
that he's taken is feeling very anti what hip hop
is supposed to be, these little jabs here and there.
The slave line is like, bro, oh okay, I see
what's happening, and it's fine. Look, both of them are
gonna be fine, right, Still a fan of everyone's music,
but it's it is different.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
It is Yeah, that's the main thing I say. I said,
it's just different. It was like you know what I'm saying.
Then the actions that happened after we don't got to
talk about, but it was like you not doing any favors,
man like you making you making.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
It obvious now it's.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Right, right, So with you being such a big hip
hop head, because to me, that was like it's like
one of those things like we fell in love with
you as Zaria as the actor. Right then we was like,
oh shit, she likes Game of Thrones and Walking Dad
and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Then it's like, oh shit, she really knows this hip
hop shit. It's like, oh yeah, what's your favorite era
of hip hop?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh gosh, I like this era now now my favorite
let me talk. Let's let's take this in steps. So
I really like where we are at hip hop right now.
I like that there are so many girls, you know. Yeah,
I'm a baby and I was a teenager in the nineties.
So in my format of the years, I had Missy,
I had Kim, I had Left, I had Foxy Brown,

(10:50):
Queen like you for EMC Light yo Ya like Trina,
like we had so many and I'm very happy that
we are back here in this space. But as far
as my favorite genre, it would have to probably be
early nineties, when I was really coming out in middle school,
entering puberty, my awkward stage, and like hip hop really

(11:15):
told me you are the fucking bomb. You are the bomb,
you are the style, you are the culture. This is
even before parenthood, when I was still in Philadelphia, Like
we felt like we are cool. Everybody's trying to be us,
and if you're a young woman, there's so many different
rappers for you to idolize. You know, back in the

(11:36):
day when the girls were dressing like tomboys YLC and
all that. That's my favorite. That's still my favorite, and
I still have. Look, I got this big ass like
I'm never gonna give it up. I'm never gonna give
it up. And that's that's that was my favorite genre.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's that's that's low key like my favorite too.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I like the style because you know, as much as
I like, I'm a hip hop head as well, right,
so I can I can find value in.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Every era of hip hop.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
And for exactly what you said, I love I love
the diversity. I love the fact that, like you know,
if you like a specific type of hip hop, you
can actually find an abundance of that type of sound
and style and everything like that now, right, But like
you said, back then, it gave us so much identity.
Like you know, even as I got older, like I

(12:24):
always joke on the podcast, I'm like, you know, it didn't.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
It didn't happen until my thirties that I started choosing my.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Alcohol myself, because all my alcohol that I was choosing
was based off of the.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, that's so funny, you know. I remember in the nineties,
back when the Oprah Win Winfree Show was on I
think Little Kim was on OPRAH, and it made me
so upset the way they were talking about Kim because
then back then, like we listened to hip hop, but
a lot of our parents did.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, they did.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Our parents were on the younger side. Now the parents
and the kids were all listening to the same things,
but back then it was still a big generational kind
of divide. And the way they were talking about Kim,
like like downing her and what she talked about. And
I'm like, whatever you're saying, there's a rapper for Queen
Latifa is out there, Buthamadia is out there. Like it

(13:20):
really made pissed me off the way that they were
coming at her, like she represented all women rappers and
she didn't.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Right, he didn't.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
So yeah, so now I got to ask, as you know,
they always say every black person either attempted to rap
or did so did you have a rap name back.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
In the day?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Actually, back with I had a few rap groups now
that I'm remembering, But see, back in the day, everybody
had like singing groups. Everybody had groups, whether it was
a rap singing group and that like ninety ninety one
ninety era, like Tiya and Tamara. They were in a
singing group. Like so, yeah, I definitely I don't remember

(13:59):
what my oh god, I don't remember what my rap
name was. But I had like two or three different
groups back in the day.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
For sure, I had to every everybody had to because
everybody was yeah right.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
And then also the.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Style of that early nineties was just it was it
was just like like you said, the big clothes, like
even the bay.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
The baggy jeans they're back.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, yeah, my daughter.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
It's funny because my daughter, she she's thirteen, and she's
wearing the baggy clothes and everything. So I started introducing
her to a leah just like if just her and
her style and who she is, and you know, even
bringing up like like you said, left eye and into everything.
And it's funny because all the stuff and the style
and the clothes and everything that is that is that.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
So you know talking about again black culture and everything
like that. So you you've actually seen a lot of
like of the explosion, You've seen black coat like black
Hogh would have their boom and then you know, have
a b stellemate have another boom and be Stelle made
and everything like that, right, and so and I know that,
like you know with the UPN and kind of like

(15:12):
it becomes like a brother and sisterhood, like a big family.
I always wanted to ask, you know, specifically actors from
that from.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
That error, like how was that energy during that time?

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Oh, it was incredible. You know there was UPN and
there was a WB. The Parenthood was one of the
founding shows on the WB. When the WB first launch
in nineteen ninety five, it was The Parenthood. It was
a Wayne's Brothers. It was unhappily ever after a show
called Savannah, which was like a drama, and I think
there might have been one more so. But I mean

(15:45):
there were a lot of black shows between UP and
the WB, like black Hollywood. I have literally known a
lot of people for thirty years. Yeah, Like for instance,
the movie that I'm in, the new movie Unexpected Christmas,
which comes to theaters.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
You go talk about that.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Anna Marie Horsford is in that and I met her
when I was fourteen years old. Like so, because we
were such a small group in Hollywood, there were a
lot of us, and the nineties was like a big
boom for black culture period in clothing and music and
TV and film, like we were really popping in the

(16:25):
nineties and we all knew each other. And I was
a teenager at the time, so I was old enough
to be able to appreciate what was happening. And a
lot of the older folks like I don't know, to
Sheena Arnold or Regina King, like I looked at them
like older sisters like, and they looked at me like, oh,
this is a young girl coming up. We gotta protect her.

(16:46):
So it was a fabulous time. It really really was.
I mean, Bill Clinton was the president, tell at the
economy was amazing. Of course we always have you know,
I don't know King was in the nineties, yeahses and stuff.
But it was a fabulous time.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
You know, it was great to turn on the TV
and have just so many of us on on that screen,
right because, like I'm talking about, I was so deep
in it, like I appreciated Homeboys and Outer Space.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I watched Sparks, Sparks and Sparks like I was like, you.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Know what I'm saying, Like I was, I love sister, sister,
I love all of us. Like I was watching everything
and you know, the one aspect that I used to
love and it seemed like I know, Keenan and kell they.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
There, they got to do it a lot.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
But I used to always love when they did like
random crossovers, right because it always said in my mind,
like Zaria and Moesha would have been uh, they would
have been friends.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
They would have had a lot to talk about. I couldn't.
Both of y'all shows dealt with serious situations a lot.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Oh yeah, and we didn't have a crossover, but I
did guest star on Mosha back in the day, so
we did used to I mean not crossover per se,
but like actors from one show yea, you know, like
like The Fresh Prince used to have everybody on their show.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Everybody The Fresh Prince had everybody so much that certain
people was on in like season two and there was
a different character.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
And like that funny Yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
But I used to love that era so much. And
I'm like, ah, man, you know what I'm saying. And
then like I said, for you, I don't like you
tell the story about you know, you got the co
wrote an episode at the age of sixteen, which I'm like, Yo,
that gotta be crazy, and I want to know, like
when you got the confirmation that like the episode that
you co wrote is actually going to be put in production.

(18:44):
What was that feeling like as a young sixteen rate
Can Gomez, You know, I.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Felt good because my episode was about It was the
episode when Zaria went to the dance with like the
kind of it's not revealing by today's standards, but it
was back then like I had. It was kind of
like Tony Braxton dress, like a big hole in the stomach,
but Zaria loved this dress, and it was about she
went to the party in this revealing dress and this

(19:09):
guy like sexually harassed her, and her brother and her
family had to like, you know, defend her, and she
defended herself. But I thought, as a teenager, like this
kind of stuff happens, and this kind of stuff happens
to girls my age, And it wasn't a victim blame
me type thing, but it was about unwanted attention and

(19:30):
what to do as a young girl if unwanted attention
is coming your way. And of course now since me
too and all of that, those kind of conversations and
you have a daughter, I have a daughter as well,
and our sons too, we have to make them aware
as well as you know, those kind of conversations are
in the forefront now, but they kind of were still
a little taboo back then. So I mean, looking back,

(19:53):
I think I was kind of ahead of my time
and to come up with a topic like that, But
you know, it's always there and I'm proud of it.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, was there. Sojio Boy ain't the only one that's
doing things first. You know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
So the parenthood has also has a very personal connection
with me and my family because my little brother, they
used to always say that he looked like the little
brother and I'm gonna have to say, yeah, I'm gonna
have to send you a photo when I get a chance,
and just so just so you can see it. But yeah,
like I'm talking about his whole life until he probably
got until he started growing facial hair.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
He had a baby face that's so sweet.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yep. So it's like, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
So I was like, it's funny because I was telling
my mom, I'm like, yeah, I'm interviewing the parents.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
You're like, oh from the show.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Was like yeah, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
But again, in another explosion, like I said, we're seeing
it happen now, you know what I'm saying, we're seeing
especially like I said, in Black Horror, we're seeing black TV.
We got shows, you know, we're seeing what Easta's doing,
with Quincy's doing, Lena, like you know, we got so many,
so many dope shows had like Black Ladies, Sketch Show,
you know, yes you did.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Lets see.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I just interview Sonya Denise, so you know what I'm saying.
So so she you know, to getting her experience on that.
But in this New Explosion and for you, you know,
being part of things like that, you know, the shy
and things like that, with these new this new Black Explosion,
how is it feeling for you today?

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Oh? Man, it feels great. It feels great that I
you know, that people still want me to be a
part of their productions, and you know, I feel good.
It's it's it doesn't feel like it has been thirty years.
But when I think about my experiences and the things
that I've learned and the wisdom that I've learned, that's
when I'm like, Okay, it has been thirty years. And

(21:51):
then when I go to my IMDb and I look
at all those credits and because I forget, look, I forget,
I'm so normal and a soccer mom and driving my
kids around and all that, Like it's good to be reminded.
Oh goddamn, Like I have done a few things. I
have done a few things in my life, and I
appreciate that, you know, these young folks that are doing

(22:15):
that are out there doing it now. They want me
to be a part of their production. So I feel
very blessed. I feel still very excited about the business,
like I feel like politics, culture, I feel like it
all mixes together because I grew up at a time
when you know, Robert Townsend, I have memories of being

(22:37):
fourteen years old and watching him get into it with
network execs about the kind of jokes they wanted us
to say, Robert saying, no, we are a black family.
We don't play those kind of jokes. So but I
feel like he was being revolutionary and he came from
he was the new guy back then, but he was

(22:58):
coming off of the generation before for him in the
sixties and the seventies, and they were also very revolutionary.
So I have that in my foundation of the kind
of actor that I want to be, the kind of
content that I want to be a part of, because
I think our images they're very powerful. They are very
powerful and especially nowadays, and it is up to us

(23:19):
to create those images that make the youth feel good
about themselves and feel good about being black, and feel
good about wanting to continue creating media that makes other
kids feel good. I think it's it's we it's our
watch now. So I'm still just as excited about the
business as i was back then.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
So you know, that touches on the point that I
that I often talk about, especially in the podcasting space,
because my podcast is generally positive.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I've had a lot of people on my podcast who've.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Been in the mix of so much controversy, and I'm like,
I'm not even going to touch it because in the
podcast space, so much things that go viral is the negative, right,
and where I tried to really champion. I love having
those viral moments of positivity. It's something that like discovery,
something that you didn't know. You know, I often talk about, like,
you know, I got a chance to interview Jay Ellis,

(24:11):
you know, during the height of interdere right, and on
my interview is the only interview that you will see
that he talks about his love for comic books in
the character that he wants to that. He wants to
play right, And I'm like, but again, when I'm when
i'm leaning into like, you know, positive stuff and everything
like that, those are the ones don't go as positive,

(24:32):
you know as much.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
But then I'll see somebody on another podcast down talking
black women and that's a million, three billion views.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I'm just like, dang man.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
I'm like, I have a conspiracy. It's not really a
conspiracy about that. But I think, like with the elonification
of Twitter, right, these billionaires like really trying to sway
public opinion. I think a lot of it is bots.
I think a lot of it is bots. And I

(25:02):
also think we as the public, specifically the American public,
we have to start taking a stand, right because what
you're saying is true that a lot of times negative
stuff goes viral. That doesn't mean it's always going to
be like that, and that doesn't mean people don't want
to see positive things. They do they do, But with

(25:23):
the algorithm, I think now it's being tricked by Elon
Musk and all of them. They are purposely doing this.
So what goes viral the algorithm is not a real
testament to what people at human beings actually want to see.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
And that's why, and that's why I stay positive about it,
because my whole thing is this, I'm I'm a stay
of the course.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I'm not going to conform.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I said, because when people do discover my platform and
they start going back on the back catalog and start
seeing some of the black excellence that I got a
chance to be pleasure to speak with, You're going to
You're going to see that, and then there's going to
be that moment because you know, like most recently, I
know that, like you know, there was you know, there
was a lot of talk about Cardi B and her
next baby, right and then she got to go on tour.

(26:07):
But I was like to me, I was like, black
women have been showing us that you are an example,
like you said, being a soccer mom, that you can
juggle a lot and still be at a high and
perform at a high value.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Beyonce does it, CARTI doing it. Let's say you're doing it.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
There's so many black women who are handling Rihanna's doing it,
Black women that are handling having a family and their
business and not and there's nothing taking the backseat.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah, and see I have my daughter in two thousand
and seven, So I was in my mid twenties, and
it was so normal for women, particularly black actresses, to
push off families because you're so afraid that that magic
role is gonna come when you're eight months pregnant or
when you're nine months pregnant, and it's like, you can't

(26:53):
live your life that way. You can't put your life
on hold. So even when I had my daughter, it
was not women were still not having babies like they
wanted to. So now fifteen years later, eighteen years later,
it is a complete flip and I love it. I
love it because, look, this business is not gonna make

(27:13):
us crazy. It is not going to take our life
from us. It is not going to take our soul
from us. We it's our turn to flip the business
and between podcasts, even like subscriptions on Instagram and TikTok,
and I'm taking advantage because it's like that is something
that I could potentially have with me for the rest
of my life. Yes, subscriptions, some people saying I have

(27:33):
been following you for sixty years or fifty or whatever,
like that's kind of exciting to me. So listen, we
are in a time where you can do anything. You
can do anything, you can be anything, and as a woman,
I believe that is true also, so yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
All you scared to deathly growth, just sit down, don't internet.

(28:13):
If you sit down, if you shut up and tell
your mask step out, deal with me.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
Next time they bring up the guns, you gonna respect
us that little that's ain't going through your your for nega,
I ain't even trying to pull you up, making on
your slip. I'm a soldier from that mode. I'm gonna
goes to him from the ever police stretcher. No cameras
catch it, jump you off in the rival hood. You'd
rather be arrested because you didn't have no stretcher, couldn't
with your necklace, niggas hand around your throat.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
That's a choke of reference, my ancessor.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
To go food made soul, fool Jim Crows the true too,
and store the soul music.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
That's the blood that goes through me. So you will,
sun me.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
I can never sell my soda, so on it sold
to me. People teaching to froom me, But don't confuse
me your mouthful for the cameras.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Out, nigga silent movie.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
You not here some jury, no civilization that's coming from
the outside.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
So that destroyed yourself from within pen.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
But depending that would come back when I'm sent can't
talk back.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
I talked whatever another a big, big moment that I
think like really opened your eyes but opened the world
to you in regards to it. So the Cleveland Show
introduced you to comic Con. You didn't know what comic
con was, and that was your right.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Now.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
But I also know that you are a lover of
sci fi, superheroes and horror and everything. So now, especially
with the wave of superhero movies and everything, I want
to know have you.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Have you been back to a comic con since that
first one?

Speaker 3 (29:38):
I haven't. I haven't, but I'm looking forward to going.
But I'm just open to whatever the universe has in
store for me. I feel like it's been thirty years
this past summer. Thirty years nineteen ninety five is when
The Parenthood first aired, So it's been thirty years, and
I think I've played great characters. And now I'm kind

(29:59):
of like, maybe in the half point of my career,
if I'm lucky enough to still be in the business
another thirty years. Now, I'm kind of like, let's be
open to the universe. Let's just see, let's be open.
So I would love to go back to Comic Con.
I love voice acting. I started doing voice acting when
I was pregnant because I still wanted to work and

(30:21):
I had heard you know, I knew who you were
from your voice. I recognize you. I had heard that,
and so you know, when I got the Cleveland show,
I wasn't the biggest Family Guy fan, but obviously I
knew about the show. I had no idea. I had
no idea about the the SETH MacFarlane world was. I
had no idea about Comic Con, but I loved it.

(30:43):
And even with Steven Universe that I did Cartoon Network, like,
that show was so good and it's always going to
bring special memories because my daughter and I watched the
show not only because I was on it, but because
we are huge faiths of the show and Rebecca Sugar
and the characters. So I definitely want to keep doing

(31:05):
animation and voice.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
So yeah, two things.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
So one, Steven Universe, that show they got serious real quick,
like it was I was like, WHOA.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Really were adults? But you know, adults, we lose our
inner child. That's why my mother is a baby boomer,
a black baby boomer. She was a generation that was
first introduced to Disney. She grew up with Disney. I
grew up with Disney. So cartoons even now they heard
to meet a kid for ever ever. And even if

(31:40):
you think that way, we always have our inner child,
our inner girl never goes anywhere. And I think you
need that. You still as an adult, you still need
a level of whimsy and imagination. And I'm a creative
so I I lean into that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
But yeah, So the second thing, ROBERTA Tubs how like one,
I feel like one you got to really let your
comedic chops.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, why and everything?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Like how was that experience being able to have a
lot of tongue in cheek moments, a lot of you know,
just different levels of comedy, but in that role, Like,
what did you love about ROBERTA Tubbs?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Oh? Man, I loved everything about ROBERTA.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Tubbs.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I loved everything about the whole experience of doing the
Cleveland Show. I loved the fucking schedule depending on how
many lines so we would do a table read, you know,
so producers and everybody in the writers could hear you
know what Jokes plan did what Jokes didn't. But when
it came to recording the Cleveland Show, they recorded each
of us separate. Sometimes we would record together, but depending

(32:44):
on how many lines you had that episode, you would
come in and record one line and then you would
be done, or maybe twelve lines, it would be done.
Like as far as schedule goes, that was like the
best schedule I've ever had in my life as far
as the job goes. But it was a fantastic It
was fantastic, had great time. Yeah, it was. That was

(33:04):
my nice introduction into voiceover acting.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
No, I see a lot more of that in you, because,
like I said, you killed that role. You killed it
on Stephen Universe. If I'm not mistaken. You did appearance
on Rick and Morty to.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Three different.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
But you know what's what's really great again, another black explosion,
right you know, so black people are really diving deep
into anime right now. You know, like that's been a
huge thing, right and you know, you have people even
like Carl.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Jones, the creator of the.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Boondock, starting his own black animation studio called Martian Blueberry,
and he's doing the anime with Meg thee Stallion, which
I broke that news and make sure. But we're seeing
more and then we're seeing more representation of black people
in anime, in cartoon things like that, right, And so
I can definitely see a world where you get like

(33:56):
people are calling in on you a little bit more
because ye I said, we do need that. We do
need more people writing for us, we do need more
people directing for us and animating us. But then we
also need those cultural voices to be put in those roles.
And your voice is one of those those voice that's
easily recognizable.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
So I can definitely see that for you.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Well, from your lips to God's. And about anime, like
I feel like because my kids are gen Z's, I
pay attention to the lot a lot of the things
that they are into. And my kids love anime and
they got me into it over the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay, now I gotta know for hours just watching.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Okay. So my daughter likes uh Return of Titan something Titans? Yes, Okay,
I told her that anime is kind of scary. It
is scary looking.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
I love it though I love it.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
It's like a thousand episodes or some shit. She love
that show. But of course uh uh Demon. What's the one? Yes, yes, yes, oh,
we love that one, and there are a lot of
the ones. But the kids now they love anime. And
my son is like everything Japan, Japanese, everything Japanese, and

(35:09):
he actually when he graduates from high school, he wants
to go to school in Japan. And there's a lot
of that there is that the black teenagers or the
black young people going to Japan.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yes, yes, or I am I love it so in
in in the same room of convention. So one again,
the explosion of black culture into these things, right, has
birth things like Blurred.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Con and dream Con. Now we've been fortunate enough to
go to dream Con for the past five years. We're
actually work. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I was just about to say that we got you,
we got you, we got you, because I think you
would love it so much because of how much you
love black culture.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
When you get there, there's a couple of things that
you're going to see.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
One, you're going to see that the staff is all
older black folks. And you know in the black community,
who gets the most respect older black folks. Right, So
it's like you said, if the security is Auntie, and
Auntie tells you get in the back line you could
be like, I got you right.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
And then that main.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Stage, it's so many black creators on that main stage
for me, Like you said, I'm looking at like Comic
Con and I'm like, yes, I love these properties.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
But to see all black casts.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
You know, last year they did the Boondocks reunion and
got to see Cazear Yard Row and Carl Jones and
Gary Anthony Williams, and it's like like, Yo, this is
this is what we need in our coach. So definitely
I would tell I gotta I got a little bit
of connection. I'm gonna talk to some people.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I mean, I want to do more cons want, I
want to do all of them. So yes, please, if
you know anybody, tell them to hit me up please.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
I definitely am. I definitely am all right.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
So another, like I said, black culture that I feel
like that's the.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Theme of this interview. But Unexpected Christmas.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Now one everybody knows black people in general, Chris, Thanksgiving,
these are holidays that bring in the black family and everything.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Right, tell me a little bit about the film.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Unexpected Christmas is in theaters November seventh. It's with me
Dominique Perry Lil Real, the comedian Tabitha Brown, and it
is from a black production company, Three Diamonds Entertainment, and
this is their first film. The soundtrack comes out on
October twenty fourth. I think the lead single from October

(37:29):
London is out right now. But it's just a good time.
It is a good time about some black family drama.
When you know, when we come home for Christmas, it's
a lot of drama. The plot is me, my character Carrie,
and my sister played by Dominique Perry. Well, she finds
out that we are dating the same guy, and we

(37:51):
go from there. Now we have me and my sister.
We have two different last names and we live on
two separate coats, So it wasn't any kind of scandalous anything.
It just so happened that out of all of the
two women in the world, he ended up with two sisters.
I'm not gonna spoil it, but it is good family fun.
There are some great conversations about mental health and things

(38:12):
like that. And you know, a lot of laughs too,
a lot of laughs and a lot of love and
a lot of life and unexpected Christmas. So if you
guys want to have a good time, you want a movie,
you could take the whole family to go see go
ahead and get to the theaters November seventh for Unexpected Christmas.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
And I love it because, like I said, you know,
black people and their relationship with Christmas again family, but
I feel like we do it right with a lot
of Christmas movies.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
You know, we have a lot of Black Christmas movies
in that drama.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
And I can see this going into it, into that
zeitgeist with everything you know, and being a company with
it because I know, like I love the family aspect
of it, of Christmas in general, but I like for me,
like one of the things like all December, there's nothing
but Motown Christmas.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
For me, all I play is Motown and Black Christmas.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
That's why my parents are from Detroit.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
So yes, right, like I said, Christmas and Christmas.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
If I don't hear in my mind, you gotta hear that,
you gotta get that.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
What do you do? You have a favorite Christmas song?

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Oh? All Motown. I like the Jackson five, but also
I like the nineties Christmas songs like the TLC. Yes,
I like Chris Chris Brown's Christmas stuff, so a little
bit of old and the new, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
So I know a lot of people say that this song,
this Christmas shouldn't be touched. However, Chris Brown did an
amazing job, Like like I get it, I get it,
Like you know what I'm saying. We have our definitive one.
But Chris Brown, he went crazy on that, and I
had to give it.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
I'm not mad when the when the younger folks want
to redo the classics, because I get it, They're like
they know that if they redo it. Also, every year
people are gonna play the songs also, so it gives
the song new life and a longer life, I think,
and introduces the song to younger people. So I don't
see it as a bad thing. You can always go
back to the original. It's like what mood are you in?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Right? Right?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Do you have in your hand?

Speaker 2 (40:15):
You know, especially with certain songs like that, Like I
like to see people's vocal range, Like I would love
for I would love to see what Coco Jones does
with some with some Christmas music, you know, because like
I feel like her vocal range is.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Like crazy love her.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, So you know it's one of those things that
I'm like, all right, I really would like to kind
of see into that. But yeah, no, this Christmas. I'm
excited for it because I love a good Christmas movie.
I love a good Christmas like a soundtrack. That's another
thing that a lot of people forget. Like Black People,
we put together a soundtrack for a lot of the things,
you know what I'm saying, And I think, like, you know,

(40:49):
Sofu was one of my favorite soundtracks and everything. So
it's like, I can I can't wait to see what
you guys do with this one and everything. You know.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
That's right, that's the right soundtrack is out October twenty fourth.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
All right, So I got a couple of fun topics
and everything before we get you about here and everything.
So I know, like I said that one you love
about like your love for horror fi and everything like
that again, and what I was trying to get to
earlier when I was in the midst of The Walking Dead,
that's when I learned about your surviving series. Yeah, yeah,

(41:22):
you know, and I was like, oh man, and so
again with black people in horror. One of the things
that I love that we're seeing a lot recently is
that a lot of the horror tropes that they used
to give us they're getting rid of, Like we're having
way better representation and everything like that. And I want
to talk about like your connection with the horror genre,

(41:43):
so you know how like what got you into that
horror genre?

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Oh? Man, I got into horror going to Blockbuster with
my dad on Friday nights and I will go right
to the horror section and then the black movie section.
And I'm from a time where I know we have it,
the movie it and the show was Welcome to Darius
coming to HBO. I remember when Stephen King had the

(42:09):
first It. It was a TV movie R ninety one
or ninety two, and I used to watch a lot
of Stephen King's stuff came to TV. It was it,
It was The Stand. It was a three parted for
The Stand. I loved horror back then and I still
love horror now. And I feel like horror is a
very feminist.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
It definitely is term the final girl.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Like it really is a thing in horror. So I
feel like, as with a lot of creative outlets and
a lot of media, you're kind of crossing political what
ideologies with creative so, you know, and a lot of horror,
the women are you're the one that has to kill
the monster or the monster's coming after you and your

(42:55):
husband don't believe you the police, so you have to
figure it out on your own. So that also kind
of drew me to horror. But I like being scared,
not just I like being scared, and I like thinking about, shit,
what would you do to protect your family, whether it's
the monster, whether it's an a and whether it's I

(43:15):
don't know, your inner demons that are kind of manifesting
into making you a monster. I think that kind of
stuff is fascinating and it deals with a lot of
mental health things and confidence and like you know, it
deals with a lot not just running away from the monster,
but it can get really deep. And I'm I'm a thinker.

(43:36):
I like smart stories. I like smart monsters. So yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah because and like I said, I like that we're
getting new ones that add to like the repertoire of Okay,
we gotta watch this during Halloween, right because like what
Dwayne Persons did with the Blackening, I love the Blacking so.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Much, right yeah, yeah, what Jordan Piel was.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Doing with us and and you know, like everything you
know get out, Like I'm like, all right, these are
things that now because like every time October comes.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Of course, we're going to run through.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Our classics Friday thirteen, Jake, but I'm out adding those.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Also.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
I'm sorry I.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Was gonna say, you talk about Blockbuster.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I keep this in my wallet for these moments.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
I still got one. I love it.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Good for you. And even like when I did The
Shy and I was talking to Luke Luke James about
him being on them the uh the Amazon Prime showed
them yes, and he played like the scariest, weirdest, creepiest
murderer and he was so good, so I had to
telling me and my daughter loved him in that role.

(44:43):
It's like, I like everything else you do, but you
as a psycho medias Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Also shout out Leana ways.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I feel like what she's doing with The Shy is
definitely making sure our legends stay employed, like You're.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
So that way.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
There's so much talent on there that I'm like every
time somebody when you popped up, I said yes, I said,
we gotta get ready.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
You know, I can't wait to go back for season eight.
This will be the last season. But the fact that
this show has gone for eight seasons, you don't hear
about that nowadays right at all. So yeah, I'm I'm
happy to have been a small part of the show.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
But and it's also so this is this is funny
because I love the shot, like I'm the first thing
I watched The Power.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
I watched Power.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I watched like, I watch it if it's a black show,
you got me right, And I know that.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
At first.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
At first, I was so, it's funny because I was like,
you know, we look at you guys as like, you know,
these black actress and actors that we've seen and everything
like that. It was jarring at some points to hear
you and Colin saying nigga and we.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Ain't used to it.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I was like wait, and I was like, wait, we
gotta remember they black from the That's so funny.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
And I was so happy to be working with.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Her on that, Like, yeah, I met her.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
When she guest starred on The Parenthood when she was
nine or something like that. So for us to kind
of reconnect, it was it was great. It was great
on that show.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
All Right, random question.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I couldn't find a good transition to put this in,
but random question.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
All right, the Donelle Jones you know What's Up video
you was in there. No, No, that wasn't you braiding
ushers here? No?

Speaker 2 (46:27):
No, okay, because this whole time in life, I thought that, yes,
and I was going to ask, like, how did that happen?

Speaker 3 (46:33):
I've never heard heard that before. I need to go
back and look and see if she looks like me.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
But no, okay, because it's literally when leftage, when left
eye wrapping in the music video and it cuts and
it shows Usher getting to tear braided, and I swear
I thought for this, I thought it was.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
You Atlanta people. So they were definitely in Atlanta. But no,
I wasn't in that one. I was in a few
other videos.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
But oh yeah, of course, no young Guns, No Better Love.
Like you know, listen, I love that song. I was
a big Rockefeller head.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
So you yeah, a.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Lot of people don't know I'm in the Girls Girls
Girls video. They don't know that's me. When he talks
about the uh the girl he's buying her sneakers, and
I'm like, like, having people don't know that's me. But yeah,
I've done a few videos.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah right, I mean, I mean you King Magazine Royalty,
so you know, listen Eric Funny. Growing up, So I
was the person that in my family that had all
the posters on the wall, right, but I sectioned it
off right, So I had my my sports wall right
then I had I was a big no limit fan,
you know, I was no limit, So my no limit wall.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Then I had my general rap wall. Then I have
my hip hop Lady's.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Wall, and I want to and you you definitely was
on that wall that that orange swimsuit.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I grew up with posters,
posters on my wall to back in the day, I
was a big so so deaf fan. Oh yeah, Criss
Cross Escaped Brad and then Word Up magazine right on magazine.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Yeah, those magazines, those magazines.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Will be so good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
My my connection with that's funny because growing up, Criss
Cross would end up ended up being my first album
that I bought with my own money.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I want.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I went to the store and I wanted to get
ski Lough because he had the song I wish I
was a little bit, but the record store wouldn't let
me buy it because they had.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
A parental advisory ticket on.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
So I ended up getting totally crossed out and then
since then loving him and everything like that. Yeah, all right,
so all right, so we got like I said, now
we get into our fun topics. Okay for you, and
it doesn't have to be in order. What are your
top five Black TV shows?

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Ooh, I love Atlanta? Oh yes, I love Atlanta. I
love how weird it was. I love how it was
kind of supernatural, kind of that time. I love the stories.
I love Atlanta. Okay, uh, we got to put the
parenthood on there for sure. Oh gosh, so that's too.

(49:13):
Let me see what else? The Shy. I will put
the Shy on there, and I ask someone who remembers
that it went through a little bit of restructuring earlier on.
I love that it's still here. I love the stories.
I love how Lena Waite, like you said, is making
a very conscious effort to bring a lot of folks
into the show. Let's see, that's three. What else I'm

(49:38):
trying to think? Insecure? I love Insecure And that was
another live tweeting moment history, like.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Was your team Lawrences the team Daniel?

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Oh so I can see both. I'm a lover girl.
I've been married for a long time. I want people
to get together. I want people to fall in love.
And I have a very soft spot for men who
are trying, who are trying men who are trying. Man,
I think y'all, y'all have not been conditioned to be

(50:18):
able to express yourself and be vulnerable and talk about
your emotions. So I saw I saw it with both
of them. But at the end of the day, even Nathan.
I loved her with Nathan, but he had his own
mental issue. Yeah, oh okay, well even all of them.
I liked her with all of them. But at the

(50:41):
end of the day, who did she really want? She
wanted Lawrence. Lawrence wanted her to and even the what
happened with the baby and all of that, like it
was that's real life. That's how it happened, especially if
you guys are splitting up and coming back together. Look,
you split up, you you open yourself up for things
like that happened. But also it's not fair to be

(51:04):
in a relationship if you guys are not your best selves.
But you know, that's life. And she got she got
what she wanted, So okay to me too, the last one.
Let me see, oh last one, mm hmmm, I think
I'm gonna have to go Martin five. Yeah, I think
that's what I think I have to go Martin because

(51:26):
of there. I had never seen anything as funny as
funny as Martin, and then he had the surrounding cast
that was just as funny. Yeah yeah, Martin.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
And you know what, Martin showed a black relationship that
a lot of people aspired to have, to be able
to to be able to to joke with your girl
like that, and you know.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah, yeah, so like that that that that was like
and again all the all the shows that you need
show different levels of black and black culture. Like it's like,
even when we talk about the shy I love and
I know some people don't like it, but I do
like the emphasis of having black mental health and you know,
black men getting together having these conversations and black women

(52:16):
getting together and having these conversations because community and also
us trying to get you know, get get away from
that stigma of mental health and everything. It's just like, yeah,
I like that we're having these conversations and seeing these
on TV, Like, you know, I think that that is
a great expression of showing how, you know, the.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Black black person, the black community, the black mindset is.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
It's like, you know, we're not what one thing is like, Yeah,
we want to address our trauma.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
We want to be able to have these conversations and
not for.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Nothing like because I'm such a big podcast girly. I
feel like we are there with podcasts right now, especially
after this last election, when we saw how big these
right wing podcasts are and how much space they have
taken up on YouTube, and you know, with a lot
especially a lot of young men and young children boys,

(53:10):
they are being targeted with these kind of crazy folks.
So podcasts like yours and a lot of other podcasts
that are led by men, I feel like now we
are Now it's our turn to kind of not only
push back on that, but show there is another way.
Like you said, how the algorithm kind of makes the
negative things go viral, there's a shift. There's a shift happening,

(53:32):
and people want to see a shift. Like for instance,
on my Instagram, my first post that's probably gonna get
a million views is a post with me and my husband.
There was a trend going on about oh, you guys,
you know you as a couple, You guys are so cute,
how long have you been together? And me and my
husband been together for a long fuaking time. On my

(53:52):
Instagram and it's it's probably gonna get you know, be
my first post to get over a million views. So
I'm saying that to say, people want to see good things.
People want to see things that make them feel good.
People want to see black people being happy and then
loving relationships and surrounded by people who who love them.
So keep doing what you're doing. Don't worry about the algorithm,

(54:15):
you know, because longevity is key, you know. So, yeah,
we want to see things that make them feel good.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
And you know, that's kind of where we're currently at
because like we're currently working on a documentary called The
Black Gig Documentary, and we've been literally like we we
did our b roll, so we've been kind of like
going convention convention for the past two and a half years,
just doing the black experience, talking to a lot of
the black creators and everything. And so now we're going
we're on our last step now, which we call our
hero interviews. We have a couple of celebrities that are

(54:43):
that are we're fortunate enough to that said, they're down
to interview on camera again, all based off.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Of me doing this reaching out to people interview that's right.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
So that's the next step that we got to do,
which is trying to get our funding and everything together.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
But but yeah, good for you.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
But that's the thing, like I said, exactly what you said.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
We're trying to show, like when we first started this podcast,
we wanted to show that black people just like this stuff.
But as we were going through this, and you know,
my personality is very, very I'm an extrovert in every
sense of the word extrovert.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
I call everybody i'm conversating.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
And I realized that there's a lot of people who
still they're like, yeah, we love herkle, but that's that
that's not the only representation of us.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
And I said, oh, I want to. I want to.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I want to talk about that more, right, and I
want to platform it. And then I realized, I said,
you know, this culture blurred, you know, we call it
blurred culture. Blurred culture is growing ever so fast, and
I'm like, I don't want to. I don't want an
outsider to try to detail this and not know that
in And I was like, I'd rather even if my
documentary ain't the biggest documentary, I wanted to be one

(55:44):
of the ones that represent where the cultures like oh yeah,
And you know that's why I said, we got to
make sure the culture has a voice. So we earned
the trust of the culture by speaking and being on
the ground. So now we want we got to get
you know, the star power, get a couple of little
celebrities on it. So I'm excited about that journey. But
it is exactly what you said. It's like people want
to see the good.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Yes, we have to show balance. I think social media
is such a black or white thing with everything it's
either really good or it's either really bad. And that's
not how that's not how life is. So you're setting
people up for disappointment that making people think it's only
one or two ways to do. No, there are a
million ways to live your life as long as you're

(56:25):
not hurting anyone. There are a million ways to live
your life, for sure.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yep, yep, all right. So another in horror. Now, we
have a thing called we call geek set hypotheticals. All right, Now,
are you familiar with Stranger Things?

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Right? Yes, yes, okay, and of course the Alien franchise
and the Thing movie. You're familiar with the movie right,
all right?

Speaker 3 (56:46):
The Thing like from back in the day, the okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Okay, yep, all right, a xenomorph, a dema gorgon, or
the thing monster?

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Which one do you believe you have the best survival
rate with?

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Probably the thing? If I'm thinking thing about is the thing?
Like the what is the thing? Is it like mud?
What is it? What is it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:04):
And they shape shifts to people and everything like that
shape shifts?

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Oh, I forgot about that. Well, tell me tell me
my options again, the dema, gorgan, the thing and what else?

Speaker 1 (57:13):
A xeno more from the Alien franchise is.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
That the that's the big alien?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Right yep?

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Oh, I could probably get away from the thing because
if I'm remembering correctly, doesn't it move really slow? Okay?
I could probably get away from the thing because the
other ones they they move too fast. And for people
that don't know, I wear glasses in real life, like pectacles,

(57:38):
like prescription like like since I was in third grade.
So anything where I have to run fast and have
the potential to my glasses fall off or I lose
my glasses. I'm already a gner. So the thing I
think I can I can manage to get away and
still keep my glasses on my face.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Yeah, okay, So our original hypothetical then, because now you love,
because I know you love zombie stuff. Zom be apocalypse,
robot apocalypse or alien apocalypse?

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Which one do you think that you, Reagan Gomez, would
be able to survive the longest apocalypse?

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Probably the easiest out of the aliens or robots and
zombies would be zombies, because zombies aren't necessarily smart. If
you're dealing with robots, they know everything about you. If
you're dealing with aliens, they already know everything about you
and have advanced technology. The zombies they just want to
eat you. So if you get away from there's not
like some conspiracy for them to take over the world,

(58:31):
unless a lot of them get infected, which usually happens.
But I think I would rather take zombies, but walking
dead zombies, not twenty eight days later zombie not not.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
World War Z not the ones that run at you, not.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
The Usan ball zombies.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Get here all right? Well, you know last thing? You
know this one? Thank you again for this conversation.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
One thing that I realized too, even with your knowledge
of hip hop and everything. I think there's also if
mc like ever decides to step down from BT doing
like those voiceovers for all the BT Award shows.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
You can fill that role so perfectly. I see that.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Listen to the Empty Life, She'd be everywhere. I respect
it so much. And the b ET Awards and yeah,
so from your list of guys here, I would love that.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
I can definitely see that. But again, I want to
say thank you so much for your time, Thank you
so much for the conversation that has been great.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
We are gonna continue to support you here at geek
Set and in the Blurred community. We're gonna definitely pull
up in droves to make sure we watch Unexpected Christmas.
You're gonna we're gonna blister, We're gonna say some reviews,
We're gonna tweet about it and talk about it because you.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Know, it's one thing that we love.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
But again, thank you so much for everything that you
have given to this culture and to this world.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
We appreciate you so much for having.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
No problem And as always, this is the only podcast
that blending hip hop coaching and geek coaching together. I'm
your boy, Duceis. This has been the amazing Rogan Ghost Rogan,
this has been the amazing Reagan go Mass and we
are out.

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